Stick for carriers for way too long, so when they all die your opponent is stuck with a bunch of do-nothing vikings which will lose to some stalkers and a handful of disruptors. The chessmaster strikes again!
Yeah, I feel like the castors hate on carriers way too much, the carriers forced a response and parting made the right choice to tech switch at the right time. Then Maru is stuck with an expensive army of landed vikings, which die to pretty much everything else.
Guys I'm new to the game. Can you give me some advice? What terran should have done if not vikings against carriers to not find himself in that final situation?
I Really enjoyed the way how parting played the game. It is very rare to see such a heavy investment to dark templars, and seeing toss force terran to stay on his side of map due to constant dt/zealot harass. I dont know if he intended to bait that many vikings with carriers, but if so that was high iq move.
Parting is playing like a Zerg. Trading inefficiently but taking more bases, and fast tech switch so that the opponent is stuck with sub-optimal units.
@@Nicolas-lg6ys It is. I used to live in New Zealand. Aussies and Kiwis often say words like that. Like ask one of them to pronounce Māori and compare it to how a Māori person says it.
I was initially confused about the carriers, but I think it was always intended to make Maru overcommit to AA then punish him with HT and Disruptor. Either way good game from Parting
Once both sides have big economies and are stretched over multiple bases Dark Templers become such a pain to deal with. Once the Protoss has money to spend and an army to defend many Terrans die a death of thousand cuts. Terran could try to utalize mine drops to accomplish the same but the APM cost and versatility is way worse even though DT's aren't exactly cheap. There are other ways to hurt the protoss economy but warpins can deal with most of them. Disruptors also make it super difficult if not impossible to set up your army in a nasty spot and divert your attention elsewhere like Terrans love to do. That gives the Protoss a lot of map control. I am not yet convinced that there is no solution to these problems but I am yet to see a Terran really show one, other then averting late game entirely. Ranged liberators felt quit strong and there definitely was a way for Maru to win here. TvP really has become an interesting matchup to watch.
@@ak47tetris84 If you get there. I would agree that Terran has the strongest potential army composition. Going straight into mass BC doesn't seem to be the answer though. Protoss has to much pressure with triple Colossus and Blink Stalker to allow for a save transition, yet I do feel like sky Terran might hold the answer to dealing with Protoss late game. Sharp timings also work but that is sidestepping the issue more than anything else. This is of course in regard of the highest level of play and not my day-to-day ladder experience.
If you ask me tho, maru kinda forgot banshees to snipe those disruptors real hard. One of his weakness if in fact that he sticks to a certain unit comp for a very long time, which in this situation, cost him game 1. Those banshees would've been very good when the carriers disappeared, plus they can effectively thrart a dt harass since they can't hit anything above.
Ugh, I can't easily see what is supply army mineral gas, just icon. They should put text beside em icons to know easily. Old spectator is way much better.
every time Zerg wins with Mutalisk, people says Mutalisk is OP.. swarm host OP, baneling OP, etc.. perhaps we forgot about Disruptor and Storm. they can easily flip the state of the game.
No you just need to harass and play the map instead of just sitting on defense and building a deathball. Always makes me laugh when P complain about T because they can’t turtle/deathball their way to a victory while the T is making multiple pushes and constant harassment.
So annoying when the casters talk like cattle auctioneers. Just let us watch what we’re already watching. I don’t need a stream of gibberish shouted at me.
@@deeepinsomnia ive seen some zerg win in this gsl with 2-4 ultras, the problem is that they are only useful for pushing with your main army AND when you are near maxed and games dont go that late anymore or the zerg just builds ling bane to harass because they need it more, carriers are still godawful tho along with half protosses units
@@dgam4211 Ultralisks are like Lamelisks. I still enjoy watching the game, for years, but not nearly as much as before. The games are not as interesting . They need to do something drastic imo, not just simple balance changes (like introduce half the upgrades from campaign)
This game is a serious proof that Vikings NEED an upgrade in damage and ability (giving them paralysing shots on air and better ground armor. Medivacs need instant pick-up to avoid disruptors (and instant drop). Ghost should be able snipe disruptors and it shouldn't be slow like it is right now!! With that many Vikings you transition to BC and wreck your opponent !
Yeah, like Medivacs aren't strong enough from before, now you should trade without cost! Also Ghosts should shoot anything! What about instant nukes from Thors? I have a good one! Marines are small dudes with pellet guns, why should they even be able to damage a huge carrier? Next patch: Carries are immune to infantry weapons.
@@tankbuggeru I know you are being sarcastic and really it wasn't necessary you could have given constructive feedback. Medivac only need 2 target healing you can check the quote from campaign; instant drop could be a research. Ghost are already good but terran has scans 1 flying unit and missile turrets that can reveal things. Sure giving vision to ghost is maybe a bit too much he could have built more ravens I agree with you. But ghost only sniping bio is a bit lack lusting. Personally I think Thor's are good but lack their ability Barrage nuke was only tychus in 1 mission let's not go overboard even I am not going there and you think I go too far. I was only saying that Vikings Need a boost and it's a special unit case since it can be air and ground so I was only saying it should be not only useful on air. Marines are good and carriers actually need a boost only A move is something that casters are talking about and say that it needs to be changed to something with more micro potential.
fr, the "haha terran bias" shtick got old before it even started just talk about the game, I don't care what race the caster plays or who they want to win.
Those marines at 5:17 got yeeted into the swamps of dagobah
hahahah
Lmao
lmfao
Those disrupters really sealed the deal at the end.
why he didnt just transform them back to flying instead of splitting the world will never know
Stick for carriers for way too long, so when they all die your opponent is stuck with a bunch of do-nothing vikings which will lose to some stalkers and a handful of disruptors. The chessmaster strikes again!
Thats exactly how Broodlords into Ultra works.
Yeah, I feel like the castors hate on carriers way too much, the carriers forced a response and parting made the right choice to tech switch at the right time. Then Maru is stuck with an expensive army of landed vikings, which die to pretty much everything else.
That's what we call a Pro gamer move
thats more like a 20iq move rolling a 20
Guys I'm new to the game. Can you give me some advice? What terran should have done if not vikings against carriers to not find himself in that final situation?
I Really enjoyed the way how parting played the game. It is very rare to see such a heavy investment to dark templars, and seeing toss force terran to stay on his side of map due to constant dt/zealot harass. I dont know if he intended to bait that many vikings with carriers, but if so that was high iq move.
As soon as Maru starts losing the casters start calling him Mary.
Parting is playing like a Zerg. Trading inefficiently but taking more bases, and fast tech switch so that the opponent is stuck with sub-optimal units.
It's reminiscent of Protoss in BW
He is right about how to ask a question on the internet though.
I believe it’s called Poe’s Law
No, he's actually wrong
@@signalworks I see what you did there
He did the thing
Cunningham’s Law
Nate and Maynard have good chemistry
Combined they feel like one Incontrol. RIP Geoff.
What kind of chemistry? Sexual?
Yea haha
Give me any lineup that doesn't include riffkin, wardi or feardragon and I'm happy.
Sounds like Maynard doesn’t like Nate at all. Nate is a tool
"AND IT'S BACK UP BLOOD RUSHING OUT OF THE BRAIN" :D
6:48 Traitor!
😂😂
Nice cast guys. Watching these two Titans slog it out over morning coffee!
This banter is gold.
that bomb at disruptor shots at last makes maru surrender haha
Missing PartinG... Watching his old replays.. can't wait for him to come back from the military 🪖🎖️.
I thought my stomach growled 6:01
4:21
It's provocation! Maru want this academy to be attacked to kill a couple of average costing units.
It's provocative! It gets the protoss going!
pov: screaming at your screen for maru to hit transform instead of try to split his vikings vs disruptors
this was brutal casting
Wow Parting outplayed Maru! Very beautiful 17:20 congratulations Parting, well played!
2:33 - Yes
Maynard’s “daddy like it” was so creepy & sexy at the same time 😂
So why do they keep calling him Mary?
Some people really should practice their casting skills.
That's his accent 😆
@@archipelago9376 Surely not just that! If it is just their accents then that's pretty poor.
@@Nicolas-lg6ys It is. I used to live in New Zealand. Aussies and Kiwis often say words like that. Like ask one of them to pronounce Māori and compare it to how a Māori person says it.
Disruptors are such well designed units. They are super fair and super funny to play against it : )
How is it fair? The ball is much faster than 90% of all units. How is it fair if you cant avoid that.
@@mh-fh2vy lol
sure siege tanks and banelings are cool as well tsss delusional player at least disruptors needs micro
The ball is too fast. Evan top players struggle to dodge that. I hope blizzard is going to fix it.
@@adrienperret9473 siege tank is very vurnerable. Banes are broken if a zerg player has bank, but at least you can kill it.
I was initially confused about the carriers, but I think it was always intended to make Maru overcommit to AA then punish him with HT and Disruptor. Either way good game from Parting
14:56 partinG's Viking first time baby step
The Vikings are Marus
Lol yea mb, it's 11 p.m. comment
Once both sides have big economies and are stretched over multiple bases Dark Templers become such a pain to deal with. Once the Protoss has money to spend and an army to defend many Terrans die a death of thousand cuts. Terran could try to utalize mine drops to accomplish the same but the APM cost and versatility is way worse even though DT's aren't exactly cheap. There are other ways to hurt the protoss economy but warpins can deal with most of them. Disruptors also make it super difficult if not impossible to set up your army in a nasty spot and divert your attention elsewhere like Terrans love to do. That gives the Protoss a lot of map control. I am not yet convinced that there is no solution to these problems but I am yet to see a Terran really show one, other then averting late game entirely. Ranged liberators felt quit strong and there definitely was a way for Maru to win here. TvP really has become an interesting matchup to watch.
@@ak47tetris84 If you get there. I would agree that Terran has the strongest potential army composition. Going straight into mass BC doesn't seem to be the answer though. Protoss has to much pressure with triple Colossus and Blink Stalker to allow for a save transition, yet I do feel like sky Terran might hold the answer to dealing with Protoss late game. Sharp timings also work but that is sidestepping the issue more than anything else.
This is of course in regard of the highest level of play and not my day-to-day ladder experience.
If you ask me tho, maru kinda forgot banshees to snipe those disruptors real hard. One of his weakness if in fact that he sticks to a certain unit comp for a very long time, which in this situation, cost him game 1. Those banshees would've been very good when the carriers disappeared, plus they can effectively thrart a dt harass since they can't hit anything above.
@@ElkaPME Yeah maybe Terrans should try harder to exploit Protoss' lack of detection.
Belegor Kroko well, it's exactly why i said banshees
I wonder if it's possible to lift the vikings up faster so the disruptor nova doesn't get them.
it would be crazy if there was an upgrade for that, they should add that to the game
Still in love with the Warchest 2020 Spec Overlay
Ugh, I can't easily see what is supply army mineral gas, just icon. They should put text beside em icons to know easily. Old spectator is way much better.
@@moileung Icons seem pretty obvious to me, Gas would be the only one that's not clearly gas but anyone can still tell what it is.
I'm a simple man. I saw nukes I find all the nukes in the match.
Great combo commentary 👌
For carrier I use some Liberators for the Area Damnage
I remember being adicted to DT
Nate is on fire!
Fun fact maru in korean means wooden floor
Maru means metal ceiling in our language
Makes sense, because everyone has been walking all over him lately
it means circle in japanese
8:23 instant meme
my boi won)
We need more Maynarde casting
How does Maru load his marines into medivacs?
every time Zerg wins with Mutalisk, people says Mutalisk is OP.. swarm host OP, baneling OP, etc.. perhaps we forgot about Disruptor and Storm. they can easily flip the state of the game.
Not first, not gay, but here I am
I'm second and actually I'm gay and I'm not here.
This comment must be a guessing game. We need to guess which of these 3 statements isn't true.
I get nervous when I see Maru and nukes in the title.
maru was even until he sent a conga line of bio into parting's base without medivacs
Nate forever trying to be cute, now harnessing his inner Aziz Ansari
A couple, A couple hundred and change... A handfull.... guys... HOW MUCH ARE THOSE AND WHERE U GET THOSE NUMBERS FROM
This commentary is so satisfying
Mary vs. Partings
So all you have to do to beat T is outplay them and have 3+ bases on them the whole game? Huh, ok thanks!
My thought too
No you just need to harass and play the map instead of just sitting on defense and building a deathball.
Always makes me laugh when P complain about T because they can’t turtle/deathball their way to a victory while the T is making multiple pushes and constant harassment.
Fun game
STATIC D
8:23 - "vikings which suck against carriers"
I know I've been away from the game for like six months but wtf happened
What about Disruptor shots deal damage in a very small circle and blind or stun units on their current AoE ?
2:33
i laughed
Vikings need to walk faster soon.
how do you like my face to foot style?
It's painful to listen to Nate that I can't even watch this video
Parting going full Zest with those DTs.
Did anyone else notice the rick and morty reference? 😂
Which one?
Disrupters the most disgusting unit along with banelings
they're actually hard to use man.
mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary mary
6:49 nice
Nate is unfunny, Maynard is funny :)
This commentary was oddly very sexual.
gg!
So annoying when the casters talk like cattle auctioneers. Just let us watch what we’re already watching. I don’t need a stream of gibberish shouted at me.
Carriers and Ultras are bad, Thors the only big boy unit that's viable in more than 1 situation
ultras are good in low numbers to soak dps if you can micro
@@dgam4211 same thing we've been hearing for years and pros still have issues/lose games/rarely use them
@@deeepinsomnia ive seen some zerg win in this gsl with 2-4 ultras, the problem is that they are only useful for pushing with your main army AND when you are near maxed and games dont go that late anymore or the zerg just builds ling bane to harass because they need it more, carriers are still godawful tho along with half protosses units
@@dgam4211 Ultralisks are like Lamelisks. I still enjoy watching the game, for years, but not nearly as much as before. The games are not as interesting . They need to do something drastic imo, not just simple balance changes (like introduce half the upgrades from campaign)
@@deeepinsomnia i think they are kind of useful but yes an expansion would be really nice by now
This game is a serious proof that Vikings NEED an upgrade in damage and ability (giving them paralysing shots on air and better ground armor. Medivacs need instant pick-up to avoid disruptors (and instant drop). Ghost should be able snipe disruptors and it shouldn't be slow like it is right now!! With that many Vikings you transition to BC and wreck your opponent !
Yeah, like Medivacs aren't strong enough from before, now you should trade without cost! Also Ghosts should shoot anything! What about instant nukes from Thors? I have a good one! Marines are small dudes with pellet guns, why should they even be able to damage a huge carrier? Next patch: Carries are immune to infantry weapons.
@@tankbuggeru I know you are being sarcastic and really it wasn't necessary you could have given constructive feedback. Medivac only need 2 target healing you can check the quote from campaign; instant drop could be a research. Ghost are already good but terran has scans 1 flying unit and missile turrets that can reveal things. Sure giving vision to ghost is maybe a bit too much he could have built more ravens I agree with you. But ghost only sniping bio is a bit lack lusting. Personally I think Thor's are good but lack their ability Barrage nuke was only tychus in 1 mission let's not go overboard even I am not going there and you think I go too far. I was only saying that Vikings Need a boost and it's a special unit case since it can be air and ground so I was only saying it should be not only useful on air. Marines are good and carriers actually need a boost only A move is something that casters are talking about and say that it needs to be changed to something with more micro potential.
재선했다 보고 들어오신 한국인분들 손! ㅋㅋ
Disruptors are stupid
One of the commentators is hella annoying
Cmon man, why do you keep re uploading this?
What I never uploaded this
Dont know bout the commentator on DTs, but you use everything in a war to win. Grow up sir.
I’m late
he threw that game away lol, that's sad matchfixing is a reality
Why do these annoying casters keep trashtalking?
Parting>>>>>Maru
when they play each other, yeah. PartinG historically has owned Maru.
The commentator that is not Maynard is annoying AF
In English, plural of 'colossus' is 'colossuses'. 'Colossus' is a Greek word; it does not need a mis-pronounced Latin plural ending, please.
Good luck changing that buddy. That's what they're called in this game.
:)
Annoying commentator
fr, the "haha terran bias" shtick got old before it even started
just talk about the game, I don't care what race the caster plays or who they want to win.
Vikings and Liberators are such imbalanced trash. My God. Blizzard is stupid.
great game but the casters were beyond awful
I'm gay.
first time being first
STUPID IMBALANCED GAME