Israelis: How could the October 7th attack happen?
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Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷. I don't know Hebrew nor Arabic, but i know what Israel and Palestine going through. I wish peace to the region 🇮🇱🇵🇸 ✌️💛
There are no peace with Terrorists! Are u try to ashamed Brazilian people?
@Rachelforpeace1 😂 u good mamas?
There is a massive difference between negligence and conspiracy!
Yep, negligence is just incompetency.
Conspiracy can be brushed under the rug as merely incompetency.
Negligence would be a 20 minute response. Conspiracy is only a word to delegitimize a crime.
The latter may require the former in order to succeed, so they may thus be related.
I am amazed that so many people, in this instance as in many others, are unwilling to entertain the conspiracy hypothesis. To my mind this is a very negligent attitude.
There are some people who believe that Netanyahu allowed the attack as a false flag since most of those killed were left-wing (also a couple hundred soldiers died) to invade Gaza. But it's not all up to him, the are leftists in the army like Chief of Staff Herzi Halevy, crucial intel was withheld from him by the IDF Dir. of Intel, Aharon Haliva.
israeli citizem are kept like a poultry farm like they have no idea whats going on around
Some IDF female soldiers try to warn of unusual activities at borders and claimed Hamas was training and we're almost court Marshall by their male unit leaders,you can watch those females testifying in videos
The head of Egyptian intelligence also personality delivered a warning to Net, who was like "haha no let's forget about that and not talk about or do anything about it".
Serious September 11th vibes and we're not supposed to talk about it beyond comparing how horrible the two events were.
@@scottcantdance804remember what happened in Vegas when they got MBS in so they could pull this off with Saudis blessing?
Yes it was all over the news in Israel, they told them they better keep their mouth shut (I'm from Israel)
That's exactly the truth. And i surprised no one said that.
@@GornoSoly We know it in Israel but it doesnt proves anything
They didn’t fall asleep at their post. The soldiers at those posts (mostly women) had reported activity, such as building villages in order to conduct mock raids, and reported it to their superiors. They were hand waved away. Much like intelligence assessments before 9-11, the hubris of the Titanic crew, etc.
Well, during the "Yom Kipur" war, the Russians told Marwan and he did what greed does when there's an opportunity to make more----this time round come Oct 7, the kremlin billionaires were sanctioned, and there's a consequence when you cannot pay for a pecuniary service...
Honestly I think that they wanted hamas to attack so as to give them justification for invading gaza.
You don't just leave a border like that unmanned, they shot kids throwing rocks at them in the past but " fell asleep" as hundreds of fighters poured through using gliders and bulldozer? A bulldozer could be seen coming a mile away, they're slow and lumbering machines. Same with the guys flying those gliders.
It makes no sense. I know AI is panned and sometimes unreliable but I asked several AI machines if such an attack is plausible and they all said that it would basically be impossible to cross the border in broad daylight and accused me of lying lol
They definitely knew, that's a chess move
These people are so fixated on revenge. Completely inexplicable chain of failures that led to disaster and don’t anybody dare think anyone allowed this to happen.
There are three options:
1. The moon, stars and planets were perfectly aligned and Hamas just got l’ucky’ for the course of several hours.
2. Criminal levels of incompetence on the path of the IDF.
3. It was seen as an opportunity by people of influence in the political and military establishments. Then ask yourself, an opportunity for what?
One of those three options.
Instead, these people just rant revenge, revenge, revenge, which is what brought all this about in the first placed, and will make them more despised in the region.
Revenge for what? They hate the Arabs, they want all the Arabs dead, they said so many times.
No one is asking the basic question - why wasn't there a coordinated and standard response when the attacks started? Every incident starts by involving the local police, then if they can't handle it, their backup (in the USA, Swat, National Guard, etc.) and so on, up the chain of command and finally the military. They would have had standard operating procedures and would have had practice drills involving multiple agencies for emergencies. Why wasn't this followed? Even if they go on leave for a religious holiday, they can all be recalled back to their jobs in an emergency probably within an hour. This is not a government office! These are not schoolchildren who have to be recalled from summer vacation back to school :) All the soldiers of the army do not have to arrive immediately. Until the soldiers arrive, there are backup units for the local police and emergency response units. The backup units will engage with the terrorists in the meanwhile.
People are getting angry with me for raising these points. okay I'm ignorant and I'm not Israeli. But please answer this one simple question. Even if there was total intelligence failure and no one knew anything about what was going to happen, was the response acceptable? Did the entire Israeli defense forces which includes police, special forces, emergency response teams and the army. Did they respond correctly? Even if there was Shabbat and holiday. Was it acceptable that 1300 people died and 260 taken hostage? I'm not even considering the 25,000 Palestinians who died in Gaza as a result of this failure.
As a family man, suppose a criminal comes and attacks my family in my home. If I am asleep, am I not supposed to wake up and defend them? What if I go and hide in the bathroom while they are being attacked. What if I run out through the back door and escape and leave them to be attacked and harmed? Yes the criminal is fully responsible for any harm he causes them. But I am also responsible for my own cowardice and not defending them and sacrificing myself.
What do you mean by "a coordinated and standard response"?
@@y.l7455 In every military, there are back up plans for every situation.
ESPECIALLY if you had intel a year prior that this attack couldve happened.
Let's assume it was ignored as a non possibility, the military always has a "standard" method of response of what to do in case of many situations, not to mention this region has high tensions with its neighbors, i really doubt they don't have any planed actions for majority of types of attacks
@@zloyboy8
How does that relevant to OP's comment and my question?
That is the simplest piece of the pie - the army relies on the intelligence agencies to plan its deployment. Given the huge intelligence fuck up where they emphatically claimed that Hamas are “deterred”, the army let many soldiers go on leave for the holiday, and deployed the rest in the WB.
Most of the IDF was up north protecting settlers who were stealing Palestinians houses.
I love the diverse, thoughtful opinions of Israelis. There is more free speech in Israel than in the West right now.
Have you heard about Palestinian Israelis being arrested for posting Palestinian flags on social media?
Free speech is already very low in the west.
Not sure how you determine it's better in Israel?
What you are talking about is "just posting flags" at the moment the attack happened.. you know famn well what it represents and it is not "support for gaza"
@@triplh86 not Palestinian flags, Hamas flags, or words of support for the 7.10 events.
@Seanonyoutube which is still free speech.
@@taz09216 supporting terrorism is considered “potential endangerment of public safety”. Any country would be taking in such individuals for questioning.
That guy describing hearing the digging…that must have been scary as hell.
I was hoping at least one of the interviewees would talk about the dependence on high-tech/automated security systems at the border that Hamas was able to knock out with seemingly little difficulty.
Mind Begs the Question:
- Mossad caught sleeping by Hamas
- CIA caught sleeping by Al Qaida
- Coincidental?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings CIA knew about Al Qaida, Bush and team decided not to do anything proactive...that could have been the neo-cons being opportunistic, but Israel is a totally different country than U.S. and other than how Netanyahu is arguably similar to an american neocon. I do not think Israel can be compared to America. Americans (which I am 1) tend to project their outlook on other populations.
In Israel, political leaders get voted out when Israelis die or when they have to go to war. Netanyahu will pay the price when the war is over as did Golda Meir in 1973.
unlikely@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@@tholmes8474I can’t believe more people haven’t woken up to this and don’t know what’s coming to western countries next 😩 pray 🙏
They noticed an issue, but thought it was a technical difficulty. So it goes back to negligence and stupidity.
" In an empire of lies to speak the truth is the highest form of treason "
You're right! thats why there is no free speach in Islamic\ Arab states
@@ori1676
I agree that Muslim majority states lack freedom of speech but that lack of freedom is confined to subjects related to religion and individuals in leadership positions such as kings and sheikhs.
In Thailand (a country where only 6% of the population are Muslims) it is forbidden to criticise the King or any member of his family in public.
To defame the king in public carries a jail sentence of no less than 12 years.
The lack of freedom of speech in Israel relates to matters that are beyond the narrow subject-specific matters I wrote of above which is why it is extremely worrying.
How.much more in light of the fact that in the past Israel was relatively free on that front.
@@taboulefattouch4744lese majeste laws also exist in the United Kingdom and just about any country with a monarchy.
Certainly your example of Thailand is valid since they prosecute offenders more vigorously than most.
In my experience of Thailand you can say what you want on the matter in reasoned private conversation. If you become an anti-monarchy activist then maybe better leave the country or prepare for life in prison.
@@taboulefattouch4744 "subjects related to religion and individuals in leadership such as lings and sheikhs"... Show us any video from Corey or another source where Palestinians in the West Bank or Gaza criticize their leadership - they are not governed by kings and sheikhs. It's obvious from watching Corey's videos that Palestinians are not comfortable speaking freely.
@@7135HOLLY
Quite the contrary.
Palestinians are very vocal in criticising their leaders.
Palestinian society is extremely political and divided with Islamists of different parties that are often at odds with each other, secularists, leftists, liberals etc.
There is footage of Gazans criticising Hamas officials and Hamas spokesmen and accusing them for their predicament and suffering at the same time these Hamas officials and spokesmen are getting interviewed by Arabic channels.
You are simply uninformed on that front.
I think "arrogance" is a good summary of one of the main cause of what's happened. Maybe it could be interresting to think deeply about what are the real seeds which have led to a dramatic situation like this and let Israel in continious situation of insecurity for decades, despite the strength of its army and intelligence. Regarding the history, is the strength really the better way to guarantee the security and the peace for its citizens? That's the question...
Doesn't the hypothesis of internal knowledge/ collaboration hold at least as much water as that of arrogance/ negligence?
I didn't know that the authorities in question are so trustworthy.
@@dongkhamet1351 why would israelis attack israelis
@@pedronabais1456 political motives.
I think the fact the PM was actively being prosecuted and this was his way of suspending trials while attempting to overthrow the judicial system is a bigger factor.
This was not arrogance. We had a fight in May of 2023 and the people asked the government not to stop. The decision makers believed Hamas was not interested in an expanded fight.
Excellent questions and excellent choice of interviewees - I hope you continue with this kind of thoughtfulness.
They all know. They don't want to but they all KNOW.
Yesterday it was published that already from May 2022 the Intelligence Division knew about the whole plan and also warned about it, and also a month before the attack.
The arrogance of the senior military officersis what costs us in life...
so many of these people are in total denial. they knew it was going to happen. they knew when it was going to happen. they even trained some troops in anticipation of it happening. and yet, on the day it happened, they were no where to be found. They wanted it to happen so they allowed it. its that simple
Nonsense. Look at the political fall out following the failures to act premptively to stop the Yom Kippur War. Any Gov who allowed the Oct 7 attack to happen knowlingly would face the end of their career and that of their party and possibly criminal sanctions too. Israel is an open society where everything leaks out and everyone wants the attention of having the "scoop". No, what happended is Nethanyahu's poplitical deal with the religious right parties meant troops were moved to the West Bank to protect the setters.
You have no idea what you're talking about.There were many failures, neglections, complacency that resulted in the tragedy that happened on 7th October.
Also who are "they"?
the right wing controlled Israeli government. who else?@@user-pc7ym1we5q
@@user-pc7ym1we5q @L7Fx knows exactly what they are talking about, there are too many red flags and so much evidence pointing to what their Government wanted, their plans and why. Do some research.....so many whistleblowers too.
@@user-pc7ym1we5qtragedy created by the idf. Why we're Hamas allowed to roam around for 6 hours? Why we're journalists and reporters allowed to enter only after 3 days? Why was not even one soldier present? Why are they always mad when their people are treated well? Why we're they mad at Hamas even though Hamas fighters have gone through a lot worse then this by THEIR hands?
Also, by their, he means the idf.
Same question as, "How could 9-11 happen in the US?"
Just to make excuses and get oil
Can you imagine the American people really bought the story that some random Saudi civilians were capable of carrying out an attack of such magnitude? SMH...
@melvillefletcher4332 They did, and anyone who says otherwise is a brain dead idiot.
@@melvillefletcher4332 They did. There is no room for imagination.
Dancing Israelis
Yesterday's New York Times :
"Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago.
Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show."
What strikes me most is the complete lack of interest in an independent investigation of what happened on Oct 7.
People have priorities. Of course they’ll demand answers. But there are more important things to deal with right now. The 7th of October already happened, investigation now will not be useful at that moment when our men are fighting, the hostages who a lot of them are still not with us, and terrorist attacks inside Israel still happening that the military needs to be prevented.
Me too I suppose
@@Adi8745-btif you're going to war, you should be aware of the true causes.
I'm not saying you aren't, personally. However since this is fast becoming a global issue, it will be beneficial for humanity at large to have an accurate comprehension of the origins of the conflict. So we don't all go rushing into foolhardy things.
@@dongkhamet1351it wouldn't help anyone to start and find who's guilty. It would only make the whole political leadership and the army focused on the investigation.
@@wow2031 I don't find the first half of your comment acceptable at all. If you're conducting a war without knowing who the guilty parties are then on whom will your war be inflicting casualties?
Of course we both know the answer: innocents.
As for the military and political establishments, of course they are implicated in the horrors whether by commission or omission. So having them investigate themselves would certainly be a red herring.
I don't know if you will listen, but blurring people's face will make them tell their true opinion❤
Today, the 30th November 2023 the convicted terrorist Itamar Ben Gvir who also serves as Israel's Minister of internal security declared in an interview on an Israeli news channel that he will hand weapons to any Jewish citizen that asks for it (implying that minors under the age of 18 will also be allowed to recieve weapons as many of them already carry and use weapons in the West Bank).
This was said after a terrorist killed three Israelis in Jerusalem.
He said the weapons are for the purpose of "protection" and "self defense" from potential Arab terrorists and that those who use them will not be sanctioned if even the weapons are used erroneously (i.e if there was no threat to the life of the Israeli firing the weapon and/or if the Israeli fires at a threat that proves to be a figment of his or her imagination).
Basically, the minister gave a green light to Israeli citizens to conduct pogroms with immunity from future prosecution.
0:56 sorry, but just as an isolated moment - that guy saying, 'intelligence failure' while standing close to a car while it's backing up got me good lmao
You do great work. Thanks for this. Asking questions without steering to get honest answers
"They knew,but they don't know"
BTW, I want to address all the commentators below, fellow viewers and Corey- thank you all, you are all my kind of people, inquiring, thoughtful, caring, decent, in just watching this, reading your comments and knowing that these videos continue to appear, I feel saner, happier, more whole, more at ease and more confident that there are much more than 36 folks out there I can count on, which I really appreciate. The little things have become big, the political rug under me has been attached to a carnival ride- who knows where it will go or end up, but regardless of how crazy things have gone, I need to know I am not alone. I am not alone. And one more thing, there is only one thing we must all agree on- we won't go down without a fight ever again!
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Because good people try to think all people think like them, they got too comfortable.
It’s one of the pitfalls of decent people. Thinking that the rest of the world is also decent…
reminds of a point someone made that this will probably regress alot of "palestinian symphathy" in israel as it was the south of israel that was attacked, which typically was the more anti settlement region because of how distant it was from the West Bank
targetting people that want to help their cause, trully the representation of biting the hand that feeds them
Israel as a nation, the Israeli army, and Israelis have always, are always, and will always think, believe, and know that Hamas is a threat. To say anything to the contrary is blatantly false.
Israel has one of the most protected borders in the world with a regular and ongoing history of conflict. Israel has one of the most elite militaries in the world backed by the West. The majority of the citizens over of the age of 18 have served in the military. Gaza is occupied by the Israeli military. Israel boasts of its'Iron Dome' and its ability to defend itselft against attacks.
Yet a bunch of guys with minimal training and weapon systems were able to 'suprise' the Israeli people with bulldozers and paragliders traveling at whopping speed of 20mph across the desert.
You can drive from the south tip of Israel to the north tip in about 6 hours. You can drive from the east side to the west side of Israel in about 1 hours. It takes a little over an hour to get from Tel Aviv or Jeruselum to the border town where the attack was initiated
Why did it take over 6..... almost 8 hours? Please..... someone.... enlighten me.....
Gaza is NOT occupied. There has been no Israel in Gaza since 2005.
@@jordantaylor. I said "ONE of the most protected borders". I've been there multiple times. Again.... why did it take so long for the military to respond?
Right now we have to live with not knowing. Maybe if and when this war ends we will see. Now all is specutation
@@rjthomasindyusa It was a holy day and the Sabbath, most people do not use their phones, the police stations and army bases nearby were breached.
If Gaza was occupied, why do they have so many weapons & 300 miles of tunnels and launch 1,00’0’s of rockets?
There are two reasons: One above and one below. Below, there are several possibilities, but most likely upper commanders couldn't believe that Hamas would attempt such a thing (similar to what happened in the Yom Kippur war). As far as above, when Klal Yisrael is not one then Hashem allows the enemy to have strength. Right before the war there was major friction within Israel. Those that hated were struct hardest.
Fortunately, right now, we are all one! We ALL pray for our hostages and our soldiers! There is no yours and ours! We are all together as one and that is how Hashem gives us strength to succeed!
Itamar Ben Gvir was convicted and imprisoned for almost a year on terror charges (he probably personally murdered at least one Palestinian villager but the absence of CCTV cameras let him off the hook on the charge of homocide).
He is now the minister of internal security (incredible but true) and prides on reducing the number of calories given to Palestinian prisoners (including children as young as 12) and that he instructed the jail wardens to chain their legs to walls and deny them mobility.
Is anyone surprised a country run by such people would also murder its own civilians to further its agenda?
When you spew bullshit propaganda about something you can demonize anyone.
In reality terrorists get treated way too good in Israeli prisons, they get to watch TV and they can study on Israel's expense.
Only because of October 7 they want to take those rights away now.
There are actual family members of terrorists getting treated for cancer right now in Israel as we speak.
@@talsapps
All televisions and radios as well as all mobile phones were confiscated and removed from jails on the 7th October.
The conditions for Palestinian prisoners were already dire before the 7th October but they became atrocious so you are welcome to remain in your fool's paradise but it won't change the facts.
To have a television set (typically one set for 60 to 100 prisoners) is NOT an indication of good treatment.
The problem is the Israeli jail system is not accountable to objective monitoring and is not inspected by foreign bodies.
Do you really think that to imprison children as young as 12 years of age for long months in cells with men in their late teens and interrogate them in rooms without releasing footage of the interrogation is OK?
If you do you do not belong in the 21st century.
@@talsapps
Many of the Palestinian minors released in the past ten days have broken fingers and arms.
How do you suppose this happened?
The Red Cross examined these children and confirmed the injuries.
Is it a mere coincidence?
So it's an inside job? If it's than maybe it was done by those who threaten that Israel won't have an army and intelligence in September.
I highly doubt their own civilians were touched. Haven’t you seen the videos of grieving families unable to talk about their lost loved ones without being able to laugh 😆
It seems a little provocative to me to talk about "the most powerful army in the world" (I think the Israelis are quite realistic). But maybe that’s the whole point: they underestimated the capabilities of Hamas because they believed themselves to be much stronger. It is better to overestimate the enemy than to underestimate him. very scary lesson
i mean i think the bigger problem is that in israel the army is often held back for political reasons, ofc often these are justified but still, besides maybe the indepence war and the 6th day war i don't think we saw a israeli army "unleashed", often it has to tone down it's potential by a lot, ofc this in combination of assimetrical warfare will lead to bad results
there's a reason why in modern warfare strong armies prefer to turn a city to dust from a far instead of breaching it
USS Liberty
The more Israel “overestimates the enemy” the more oppressive the security apparatus which causes Israel to be painted badly in the face world. This is the dilemma of the IDF, always trying to walk that fine line.
@@Seanonyoutube i still find it ironic the idf is the bad guy, even the bad shit they do doesnt come close to the crimes of its neighbours, nut i guess arab on arab murder never counts
i mean qatar as a legit slave trade route from india and pakistan lol
@@pedronabais1456 yeah Israel is held to much more stringent standards for whatever reason.
Million dollar question. Appreciate the content and the questions they are great!
Nice finally post Oct 7 content!
I love your channel, great job.
Remember Rachel Corrie an american who was killed by an israeli bulldozer in gaza 2003, she was only 23 at that time
Ok and?
What does it have to do with this video?
Yeah, I remember that nit *wit thinking she could stop a multi-ton bulldozer facing the sun with her 100 pound body. Her $+up ID *i+y and arrogance got her turned into a flat cake. I also remember her parents going on tour and making a chunk of change supporting her actions instead of warning others not to be get themselves turned into r0@d ki!!
@@baruchdego8934 That the Israeli government/army has done innumerable immoral things and silenced any critique of them in the past, thus, shouldn't be taken at face value for what they say with regards to what happened on October 7.
@melvillefletcher4332
Rachel Corrie was an idiot anarchist who risked her life deliberately despite all the warnings she got and infiltrated to a restricted war zone. She is the only one to blame for her own death.
Why does everyone around the Mediterranean yell in coffee shops all the time…
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Speaking as someome from America, I'm not from there... But Interesting how no one interviewed mentioned the most important thing .. The occupation and deaths in Gaza of innocents. When its so close and in their backyard they cant even acknowledge it... The country needs to acknowledge the past in order to deal with the present... Also I'm surprised how a area so heavely blockaded as Gaza that people could break through that fence? Where was the army?
What occupation? There were no Israelis in gaza until the hostages were taken there. Ask yourself why no other Arab country will take the Palestinians? Also why after Israel took over gaza after being attacked by Egypt, in the peace deal after where Israel gave the land taken from Egypt in the war, Egypt refused to take back gaza.
@@dabooser1048 the occupation of Gaza and the west Bank. Gaza is blockaded by Israel and has been for years. They control the water, airspace and borders.Plus Israel keeps building settlements in the west bank and also arresting kids and women.
@@dabooser1048ask yourself why no Europeans or Americans took in the Jews during the holocaust ? Why did Britain diside to draw these borders and create such a huge conflict with the people already living there when the could have just taken the Jews as refugees? Why did Israel’s biggest Allie (The USA) not offer them a state of their own? Look in the mirror before you ask stupid questions
@@MrLulzim47
Gaza was blockaded by Israel and Egypt because the palestinians gave Gaza to hamas which started to attack Israel all the time, do you really think Israel should have open borders with Gaza?
@@venturamedia5598
Ask yourself why most of the world equate Islam to terrorism.
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The Israeli head of the Intelligence Directorate, Aharon Haliva received specific warnings of a mass Hamas invasion, including operational plans but he disregarded the report and did not pass the information to the head of the ISA or the Chief of Staff. He did not have the right to do this, but he thought he knew better than the PM.
Is his have head rolled already ?
As someone outside Israel who is not Jewish, I strongly suspect that Bibi knew an attack was coming because we know they were warned and Hamas were seen training near the border but for political reasons he did not step up security, so allowing the attack to go ahead.
The reason I say that is that Bibi is in trouble at home and saw a major attack by Hamas as a golden opportunity to gain public support by uniting the nation in a desire for vengeance and a genocidal war to destroy Gaza and the people living there by making it uninhabitable which makes the war a genocidal war because they have nowhere for to flee to safety.
Bibi is an extremist who doesn't want peace with the Palestinians as can be seen in the West Bank where they have subjected the local Palestinian population to 56 years of a brutal occupation and forced land seizures where IDF soldiers and settlers kill Palestinians, even 8 year old children, with total impunity. Israel has done this all with the collusion of the entire western leadership of the world and Bibi expects Israel to receive the same level of collusion from western leaders in his genocidal war in Gaza as can be seen from the refusal of western leaders to call for permanent cease fire.
Everything you said is om point. They knew it was going to happen and did nothing. Bibi is concerned about his career knowing he could be removed. This happens and it brings the nation together and he keeps his post. Also, its another opportunity to take Gaza for its oil and gas reserves and potentially build the Ben Gurion canal. He wants to do all this at the expense of the indigenous Palestinians. He is willing to kill as many people as possible to take control of Gaza and accomplish what it is he wants. The arrogance and white supremacy is unreal. He needs to be imprisoned indefinately along with the higher ups of IOF.
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Bibi is bad for Israel, corrupted and damaged Israel more than any prime minister Israel has ever had. However he had nothing to get from this. On the opposite his plan to take over the courts is probably over and many Israelis are going to demand he is retired and a new election after this war. According to polls right now his coalition doesn't have enough seats to form a new government right now.
Most non Israelis don’t understand our conflict … i understand , every conflict takes lot of time and effort to be understood… what you wrote is a perfect example of… Bibi is a dead politician, only the stupidest people will still vote for him , after the war he will either be judged or regarded as the worst politician we ever had . The IDF is the army of the people, not the army of the government, so if Bibi planned something fishy he would need others people to help him in the intelligence and in the army … sounds almost impossible. Also genocidal war , cease fire , occupation for 56 years show you should ask questions instead of finding reasons why 7 oct happened… there is no genocide ( even if it is the al jazeera tittle for a month ) , no one wants to destroy Gaza or to retake it ,or to be in the situation we have now . I probably hate Bibi more than you so don’t think i have a narrative to defend
That sums it up.
Well if that's what Bibi wanted it kinda backfired lol, even more people hate him now.
Happy that at least one interviewee (last one) mentioned the fact widely discussed among Israeli left that there might have been mysogyny involved. As the female soldiers warnings weren't given as much credit as the calming relativisations of the male dominated Intelligence service.
That’s a great comment bc I saw an interview of female IDF drone pilots talking about watching Hamas gunmen storm the border. I’m pretty sure it was a daily mail video. I wish I had the link cause it was super interesting to listen to and watch
why did the cops not arrive hours after the attack even when some people called?
Unlike the Army,cops fought and died,many many died,they had handguns as opposed rpg and Ak and they still the ones who prevented this being 2 times worse in Ofakim and Sderot.
There were many cops died in the early hours and also some military personals. The Hamas just were too many at that point
The 3rd lady is correct. Arrogance, over confidence and looking at others as not have intelligence or capacity to cause such a sophisticated ttak
My question is... Where did Hammas practise flying the microlites/gyro-copters, beforehand, without anybody noticing? You surely can't do a neat, focused operation as a complete newbie, without even learning not to crash-land... and you sure can't practice in a tunnel. Did they fly on the beach - at night - and how did nobody notice, nor suppose it might be a problem? Or could ''outside renegades'' have slipped in and done the deed... and how many were caught/identified?
"without anybody noticing"
They literally posted videos of themselves training for attack missions with the gliders, and we're supposed to believe the government was just oblivious to it.
In all Israely borders ppl r training. It was true not only for the Gaza strip. It is true in Jordan, and it is true in Egypt.
However- training that our neigbors do have never considered Dangerous. Those microlites/gyro-copters are from Israel and not smuggled through egyptian tunnels. It haven't been considered as having "double usage" or military usage.
It has been reported, that they practiced in Iran.
Argh, so much ''The Fog Of War'', it's like being hit over the head with a blunt object... concussion and disorientation.@@rahelkamber4839
@@rahelkamber4839no they practiced in Gaza.
Thank you Corey for your efforts, you can't imagine how useful your videos are when debating with my pro Palestinian fellows.
I'm looking forward to having a discussion with Israeli people (as I'm not exposed to them as much), and I think expanding your project to include other Arabs will help in getting people to understand each other
Excellent point!
This is a spicy one.
you are courageous to ask the question 'did Netanyahu know?'..Egyptians said they warned Israel before the attack..if Israel succeeds in completing the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and West Bank as a result of October 7, then you have give it some credence..
Netayahu said on Israeli news that it is a lie to take him down from power
interesting perspectives - you're a very fairminded person
wrong question. People didn't know but the Government DID, I don't know if my comment is gonna be here.
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists but they do believe he promised them PALESTINE"
- Ilan Pappe
Lmfao😂. They don't even respect jesus.
The guy who comes in at 7:43, I believe he is speaking the most truth of anyone interviewed.
Not at all. He wanted to speak English where it is clear that English is not his native language. His grammar is horrendous. He is also not saying anything of substance.
The grumpy old men are the most Israeli thing I have ever seen 😂 I have no idea what they are saying but definitely a lot of passion.
Most Middle Eastern thing*
Being having strong Army wont brought you peace or security, it helps for specific period of time but not forever, peace with neighbors on " Justice" with no Occupation is the right path for security, but Israelies are having everything & Less rights to palestinians as time goes was the reason for the cycle of violence
Ask them about 6 October, 5 October and ask why they were bombing Gazze every Ramadan Eid? They have only 7 October to blame Hamas but Palestine has every day to blame isreal
As a Chinese living in Israel, I want to tell you October 7 is what will happen more often if IDF didn't do anything to interrupt terrorists' activity. Gaza can be Singapore, but terrorists choose to revenge in any possible ways. If Israel put down weapon, October 7 is the result. But if they put down weapon, they can become Singapore.
Their biggest problem is hatred education. Try too search for the cartoon for children in Gaza, you will understand why.
Ya know the more you think about it the less it makes sense. We all know Israelis simply cannot stop talking about past Hamas rockets attacks, and suicide bombings, and the hate they genuinely experienced. So i don't buy the military simply could not believe it could happen to them. Clearly that's the sole purpose of their job. If you are hired as a fighter and you don't expect a fire, then you are beyond a horrible firefighter. And they definitely had the intel. Egypt knew, so damn well Israel knew. And instead of their response being covert military operations to get the ones who are responsible, their actual response is an immense violent retribution on anyone really, Hamas or civilian, or inspite of civilians. Because heres the thing, if they say they care about Palestinians civilians, question then is if they care, why were they not caring of Israelis on oct 7? You would think the IDF abd Bibi would be caring to the 9000th degree towards Israelis. And yet, the terrorists attacked happened. So it seems to me, highly improbable that they just dropped the ball. They, the idf, themselves say they care the most about Israelis and Palestinians. Except on that say, they chose not to care and also chose not to act on the intelligence. Perhaps ultimately was to have a military presence in Gaza and to level it. And the only way to do that, is to have gain sympathy. Nothing else makes sense.
Forget about intelligence failure to predict the attack, they left the perpetrators to roam freely for hours upon hours before medical emergency, police, firefighters, or army showed up. Huge question marks all around.
It's not even speculation - in 2019 Netanyahu said: "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” There it is, bibi clearly stating that the SUPPORT and FINANCIAL AID to Hamas is part of their strategy. He definitely knew it was going to happen.
To those who think there is some conspiracy at play regarding oct 7th. Firstly, please look up the yom kippur war. A surprise attack by a few arabs countries against israel, there were many extremely obvious signs of war coming and Israel ignored all of them. Not because of some conspiracy but because of pure overconfidence and negligence. Following the yom kippur war, everyone of significancein that gov was kicked out/resigned. Their political careers were over, it was the biggest disaster in israeli history up to that point. Oct 7th was even worse, and as a result the pushback has been strong with many already calling for Bibi's resignation. Oct 7th was a politcal disastor for everyone currently in the israeli gov. Thinking that they planned oct 7th just doesnt make sense with that fact. And if you point to Bibi's trial, it is resuming next week.
most of them are delusional
Brilliant interview on the bus corey
I think that the reason could be just that the military and the intelligence had been under permanent stress, with lots of false alarms now and then and too many directions to look at. Just remember, compared to Hezbollah, Hamas was not seen as the major threat and definitely not the most powerful enemy. Besides, it seemed then that there were reasons to hope that Hamas was not going to rise tension. But they did.
The length of wall that divides the Gaza strip from Israel is a little over 60 kilometres.
The IDF has a budget of around 40 billion USD a year, hundreds of thousands of combat troops and the most hi tech surveillance in the Middle East, possibly even in the entire world.
If indeed this was a case of negligence it was collosal.
"They have the right to hate the ones that destroyed their lives"
- Prof Norman Finkelstein
So we have a right to hate the Gazans? How does it help us?
Israel GAVE Gaza which they won from EGYPT to a people of refugees who never ruled that land and who turned it into a hotbed of terrorism. But yeah, it's Israel's fault that those people are miserable. Blame it all on the Jews... again.
A lot of israelies reporters and ex military say they live under censorship so at this point most questions are pointless
Who told you that? I am israeli and i never heard an ex militery say something like that
@@lchanichan
You are obviously not listening carefully enough.
I know what’s coming to the west next will be horrific. The censorship and straight MK Ultra propaganda is off the charts.
@@lchanichan It doesnt matther what you say, they "know" the truth because they saw someone on TikTok\ X saying it lol
@@taboulefattouch4744 i do. Where is your information from?
What happened was the people were in the Holy Land worshipping Buddha when they angered God and He sent the sword after them just as He promised .
Fell asleep for 6 hours wtf?
The woman at the 4:35 mark is the only one using common sense and logic. There’s hope after all.
These people are really hypocritical.
The protests caused it
Israel got complacent & ter or I sts found a weakness.
Gazans already thank the IDF for liberating them. So make sure you document everything IDF!
The old men in the café 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Israeli intelligence knew of the impending attack a year ago. As printed in The Jerusalem Post _"The document, which authorities codenamed "Jericho Wall," is reported to have outlined "a methodical assault" in which drones would attack Israel's surveillance system as terrorists entered the country on foot and using paragliders and motorcycles under the cover of a barrage of rockets... The plans "circulated widely among Israeli military and intelligence leaders," the report says. The IDF's Gaza division wrote an assessment of it, reporting plans for "a new raid, unprecedented in its scope," but concluding that the plans were a "compass," detailing Hamas's ambitions for the future, rather than an immediate plan of action... Then, in July 2023, the IDF's signal intelligence division, Unit 8200, reported that Hamas had been spotted conducting training exercises that mirrored the blueprint in "Jericho Wall," including exercises to simulate shooting down Israeli airplanes, occupying a kibbutz, and overrunning a military base."
NYT - _"I utterly refute that the scenario is imaginary," the analyst wrote in the email exchanges. The Hamas training exercise, she said, fully matched “the content of Jericho Wall.” _*_“It is a plan designed to start a war,” she added. “It’s not just a raid on a village.”_*
Times of Israel, OCT 8 - *"Just a few days ago, Assaf Pozilov, a reporter for the Kan public broadcaster, tweeted the following: “The Islamic Jihad organization has started a noisy exercise very close to the border, in which they practiced launching missiles, breaking into Israel and kidnapping soldiers.”* < Oh yeah, the training camps were above ground as well, some only half a mile from the border!
Moreover, Egypt warned of the attack several days beforehand, US intelligence also knew.
Yet somehow, the Israeli army was caught so off guard that it took them TWELVE HOURS to arrive at some of the kibbutz's??? I think the quickest response time was hours, leaving plenty of time for the terrorists to kidnap all the leftist hostages they wanted.
It may be hard to accept, but the writing is on the wall here.
we need more ppl spreading the actual truth like this. it don't take sherlock to figure this stuff out
With Israeli Army Secret Support .
Hamas itself actually explained about how it planned it, in secret and for years.
For years it trained for each part, and the timing was set with very few people involved.
So the intelligence about the timing has some limitation, but being prepared was what's lacking here. That's on IDF as it should know what are the threats, and be prepared to them whether they are by surprise or not.
Government isn't related to this. It handles things on a different dimension.
Did they thank Bibi for the funding?
@@dongkhamet1351 Israel doesn't fund Hamas. That'll be illogical.
It's Iran, Qatar and others that seek for the destruction of Israel
@Pi...... If you are talking about the beginning of Hamas, it didn't start as a terrorist organization against Israel. It started as a social organization. Once Israel found out about the intentions, things changed
@Pi...... Read when it happened. Israel didn't fund them when it became a threat. It's important to know the chain of events and not combine current situation with old one
WHY DID THE MILITARY STAND DOWN?
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No videos on the targeted attack or hostages and Hamas even after this incident shows the channel is one sided.
Love the videos but the double subtitles makes it hard to read
Turn off the CC left from the settings button
israelis forgot the lesson of the 6th October war in 1973 where they also thought that their intelligence is superior and had nothing to worry about from the Egyptians . Security doesn't come by military power it comes by justice and following international law .
I think people forget we are only humans. You can"t be alert all the time, and definitely not on shabbat
But the most advanced army in the world, that is always alert, that's considered the best and strongest, suddenly became deaf, dumb and blind when an attack was gonna happen? Seriously?
What still puzzles me is how it was possible that for some places it took the IDF 6 or 7 hours to arrive (at least that's what I heard)? Everyone is on social media nowadays, so the message must have spread like wildfire! To my opinion it cannot be a question of the military fallen asleep, a lack of internal (and intersexe) communication in the IDF or amongst services.
And why we're journalists and reporters allowed to enter after three days?
@@SatoYuqi12 3 days? for real? wow what did were the reservations for not letting journalists in the same day? didn't hamas leave the same evening with the hostages?
@@salsabeelfatima3436 IDF was still fighting Hamas on the roads and in kibbutz Be’eri on Monday night, October 9 (2 days later/60 hours later) so it wasn’t safe for journalists (or anyone else) until the 3rd day.
Yes, it took many hours to get to people who were calling for help. I’ve seen lots of interviews about people calling the police and asking where the army is and the police kept saying “we are getting so many calls, we are busy, but we will get there when we can” truthfully, I think it was hard for them bc Hamas set up blockades on major highways, specifically the road that’s only about a mile from the Gaza Strip. Plus, it wasn’t just one community attacked, it was many communities not so far apart but still apart. So they had many locations to go while trying not to get killed themselves by the Hamas gunmen who set up blockades .
So important to have these conversations. I am more and more convinced, that peace must come from regular citizens on all sides, who build peace in their communities and connect with other communities across the border.
@rahelkamber4839 there will never be peace - get over it - this conflict is eternal !
Hey Dude with beard (mins 8-13), please take Bibi's job
Its plannwd.
all your videos are wonderful and interesting, but please change your way of writing the translation to English on screen.. Always post videos with the same 2 English translation on top of each other, which makes it very hard for us to read what people are saying. Thanks
NEW QUESTION: Why does Israel choose not to abide by the Geneva Conventions?
Hamas does?
Show me one country that does?
That's isn't a new question it is an old question.
Thousands of children were jailed by Israel in the past decade, hundreds of them remain in jail.
Israel does not hand over CCTV footage of these minors' cells and how they are treated in the investigation/t0rture rooms.
One can imagine what these children go through (some are locked up for years without trial).
@taboulefattouch4744
Children who are trying to murder can't be called children.
@@taboulefattouch4744 The Palestinian "children" in jail are Hamas militants at 16-17 lol
"The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine"
- Ilan Pappe
It's the story of David and Goliath. Goliath never thought David could bring him down with a slingshot. Same story with Palestine and Israel. Palestine being David with limited ability in comparison to the most advanced military technology. 😀Reminds me how the most powerful US army lost the tunnel making Vietnamese people, on Vietnamese land.
That’s your opinion but it’s not fact that the israel army has the best intelligence in the world or is the strongest army. Yes, they are considered a very good army, I think so too, but I don’t think they are the best. If you look at funding for every country, Qatar is top 1 army, where surprise surprise Hamas leaders live and stay
@@RadiantRiv Notice, I mentioned “ most advanced military technology “ . I didn’t mention strongest military nor best intelligence . :)
Also having top army doesn’t equate to anything really. Qatar barely has any local population, and is mainly at the mercy of Turkish and US bases to protect themselves.
With all due respect to Qatar, You can only prove yourself top army if you have actually fought wars... and won a few battles. Heck Saudi Arabia couldn’t even beat Yemen , even though it has used so many advanced US weapons...
nah isreal knew and let hamas attack. nothing else makes sense. they knew they would attack and they were rehearsing it days before it happened following the exact plans isreal had a year prior
Those old Jewish men in the cafe argue just like old Arab men in cafes I've been to.
The country was already in war with the right and left, hamas ceased the chance
I think the government was distracted by their judicial revolution and the backlash against it.
I think that bc it was not just a major Jewish holiday, it was also shabbat. If you know anything about shabbat you know you can’t work or use electricity. That’s why I think they fucked up, bc not every Israeli keeps shabbat. However, you do have to keep in mind that a major holiday was happening and shabbat
@@RadiantRiv if that were the only reason it would happen every year. I can't tell you how many times the holidays coincide with Shabbat.
@@elcalich33sehead I agree with you there! I think part of it had to do with shabbat & the holidays and from well experience we know Hamas likes to attack on Jewish holidays. The IDF really messed up
It's easy to be critical and suspect either someone or some group was somehow complicit in the attack but you can look at many events in history where one side was completely surprised and unprepared for what (in retrospect) looked obvious. The attacks on Pearl Harbor and 9-11 are good examples. You can look specifically at Israel when they were attacked during the Yom Kippur War. That was a colossal failure of Israeli intelligence and posed a real risk of Israel being overrun. Sometimes people make mistakes, even really big ones. It happens.
they knew abt 9/11
11:20 economic turmoil, manufactured/manipulated trade cycles/crises, etc. are a key component to capitalism my guy
False Flag
Could you ask both the Israelis and Palestinians what they think about Hindus and whether they would appreciate support from the hindus or not?
Hindus, and the Indian Army, are fully supporting Israel. They are also occupying Kashmir, in a very brutal manner. You expect Palestinians to appreciate you?
@@SatoYuqi12 the Indian state and the Indian army are not occupying Kashmir, the princely state willingly acceded to the dominion of India and not Pakistan, also, I only asked if the Palestinians would appreciate support from India in their own struggle considering some Palestinians accept support from homosexuals. India has always had a neutral stance in the issue and has always provided tons on aid to Palestine and has even voted against Un resolutions in support of Israeli settlements in West Bank. Despite all this, Palestinian Muslim scholars have openly mocked Hindus for their belief and have supported Pakistan on the Kashmir issue. Guess you just aren't aware of the situation at all
I love Hindus and Hindutva.
@@abhi.nav_213 "India has had a neutral stance in this issue" Let's just ignore that abhinandan came to attack along with an idf officer. And that modi just sent 300 Indian soldiers to Gaza against Hamas. Or that he is sending labourers to work in place of the Palestinians. And yes beta, the Indian state is occupying Kashmir. There have been constant protests, deaths and assaults there but no one has ever paid attention. We will mock you. You lot have made cartoons of our prophet (p.b.u.h) for over 20 years and we have tolerated you. RSS have went out of their limits to terrorize Muslims in India. Don't talk bs.
@@SatoYuqi12 abhinandan came to attack with an Idf officer? wing cmdr abhinandan and his squadron bombed the shit out of balakot, not Palestine. Modi didn't send any Indian to fight besides the IDF, the only people who went there were Indian Jews. India is not an occupying state in Kashmir, y'all fuckers need to pay some attention to history, 26th Oct 1947 was when Kashmir legally acceded to India. The only deaths and injuries have happened to those who has taken part in separatist movements. India cartoonists don't make any cartoons on prophet Muhammad pbuh, it's the French, y'all say that we tolerate and shi but NO, beheadings of Charlie hebdo employees and kanhaiya lal would not agree. RSS during the floods in Tamil Nadu this year helped everyone in the state, including muslims. It's not me who's talking bs, it's you. Also, Free Palestine
Peace ✌🏻
The Government was obsessed with and focused on appeasing the haredim which means they weren't thinking about keeping the periphery communities safe and were distracted. And the haredi will continue to not contribute or participate and demand more money that should be going to rebuilding the communities that have been decimated.
10:09 another magical social Israeli moment😊
That last guy was actually Jesus ..
1:14 Wise guy.
2019 Netanyahu likud party talks
Mukhabarat (GIS) Egyptian Intelligence report
Aman (Israeli military intelligence) sent warnings since 2022.
Make your own judgement
I’ll add some things people should keep in mind, given that you can’t find many satisfactory answers in the video nor the comments here.
First off, Israel is absurdly beurecratic, and the army is no different. The details are just not organized, most of the low-down soldiers are 17-19 year olds. Some anecdotes-a friend of mine got a non-combat position in the army by telling the army he was an only child. Weeks later, he asked for a leave of absence to attend his sibling’s wedding. No problems. Another friend of mine currently works non-combat at a desk job. After the first few months starting out, he’s convinced his office to swap to MS excel because the program they used to use was crappy and old. With the disorganization, various things can fall through the cracks all the time.
Another thing to be aware of is that Hamas purposefully attacked on a Jewish Holiday. To explain what this looked like, many soldiers who got called in on that day came directly from synagogue in the morning, heading out to fight in prayer shawls, etc. On a holiday, no orthodox person would generally keep their phone with them, so contacting reserves is harder. And more active soldiers are off on break. Additionally, there’s not active public transportation in many cities, which is vital for how many young soldiers get to bases. (Cars cost a fortune in Israel because taxes, another story entirely.)
Beyond just being a holiday, this hit Israel at a time when it was on nobody’s mind. The West Bank has been a focus of the army’s mind for a while, and the north border is considerably more dangerous with Hezbollah. Even currently, with a war down south, tens of thousands of soldiers are north in case tensions with Hezbollah increase. Additionally, serious political strife and division has plagued the country for the past year+
(Active personnel are also increased when the tensions are high. Recent barrages of rockets, etc. This was not really the case prior to Oct. 7.)
Israel’s military is largely built of reserves. Many of them even unprompted made their way south to protect kibbutzim, but it took longer to officially gather them in. The active personnel control bases, borders, etc, not all stuff that they typically call 100% of the soldiers to leave behind and race down south. Plus as I mentioned, active personnel is reduced on a holiday in the first place, and calling the reserves takes longer.
Take your average soldier. After the fighting begins, he eventually hears about it, and starts checking his phone to see if he’ll be called to duty. Shortly after, he is. He finds transportation to the nearest base, where he then has to get briefed, get geared up, and then begin traveling south to a kibbutz. All of this, (especially the transportation,) takes more than a few minutes.
In situations like this, Israel also uses busses from public transportation to transport soldiers. (Which wasn’t initially active on that day as I said.) I heard a story from a bus driver who was called in from his weekend early in the morning, was told to go to work and bring a bus to a stop. There, as many soldiers who could fit it came on, all wearing clothes from Synagogue. The officer told him to just drive south. So he did, until as they eventually neared the fighting, the officer told him to drive straight ahead, and not look left or right, at the horror. They got near a kibbutz, or wherever they were headed, he dropped them off, and the officer told him to drive all the way back, and then bring another group and repeat.
Hamas also attacked in absurd numbers, (about 1500 were killed inside Israel’s borders, and that’s just ones that didn’t escape back to Gaza. I find it depressing to even think about how many radicalized Jihadists there are-another conversation,) and took out army bases in addition to towns. So nearby bases aren’t rushing to protect. And when the rest of the army shows up, their first priority is to recover bases. By that night/the next morning, the area was basically completely cleared.
In short, when you hear reports of the army not showing up for 6 hours, that doesn’t mean they were laying on their butts. It means, between the transportation and fighting, many towns weren’t secured or didn’t get aid until then.
Is all of this to say it’s excusable? Absolutely not. There should be better organization, sufficient personnel, and protocol for these types of things. But hopefully you understand better what the problems are. Israel’s military may be strong but it’s not as strong as everyone says, and it’s definitely overconfident. And this isn’t even addressing intelligence (yet.)
On the Hamas side, they were completely able to take out sections of the border, and security stuff that morning. Some think that protests were used as cover to plant bombs by the walls and gates. Drones helped took out security. From my understanding, besides crossings, the security at the border regularly consists of the fence, camera/intelligence stuff, and patrols.
This attack was not a random terror attack, it was years in the making and planning. Reports are that most Hamas members didn’t know about it in advance.
Hamas also used multiple ways to get in. As I mentioned, they blew up large parts of the border fences. They also have their expensive terror tunnel infrastructure. And also paragliders. (By reports these had been noticed by intelligence for the first time recently. It was not understood they were for an upcoming big attack, rather than standard Hamas military training.) Hamas attackers were also high on Captagon, making them hyper-active, and unfeeling, easier to kill without remorse, and keep going even when hurt.
We also don’t often realize how close some kibbutzim are to Gaza. Many were overrun quite quickly. This is where you get videos of terrorist strolling around a conquered kibbutz, with hours to spare to go on to the next one all with time to drive back to Gaza before the Idf shows up.
On the intelligence failure, there were likely problems at many levels. Reports have come from Israeli intelligence that many small reports were made noticing certain irregularities on the days leading up to the attack. But there are other irregularities all the time. Many of these types of reports don’t get accepted by low-ranking cocky commanders, or fall through the cracks for other reasons. Additionally, the intelligence is generally probably not quite as extensive as we like to believe in the first place. How much higher-ups knew is unclear. They certainly seem to have had attack plans, though they’ve gathered many over the years.
Egypt says they knew it would happen. It’s unclear how true this is exactly. Plus hindsight is always 20/20, for us too in addition to them. All the reports that had fallen through cracks, or dismissed as common irregularities or impossible plans, all of a sudden become damning evidence.
Look at recent reports in the ‘Jericho Wall’ plan that Israel’s intelligence received a year or so ago. It’s quite chilling. It was mainly dismissed as impossible-part of the Idf’s terrible overconfidence. Still, an attack plan is not the same as a date. They’ve had these and other plans for years-that doesn’t mean they keep higher security around the clock.
(Imo, being 50 years after a previous war started on a holiday, with a similar intelligence failure, should have put the army on edge. It’s strange how disconnected these types of things feel from reality, even as we memorialize them and talk about them. No one thinks the holocaust is starting again tomorrow, but nobody expected it in 1939 either. No one expected an imminent attack in 1973, and no one did now. The army can discuss plans, and sit around for a year, and still nobody imagines it will happen tomorrow. Food for thought.)
So yeah, the south wasn’t as well fortified as it should have been. And as a result, plus all the difficulties I explained earlier, it took longer than necessary for towns to get reclaimed.
On the intelligence side, it’s not likely (imho) that these were ignored on malicious purpose. There’s still a lot of overconfidence, and a lot of other problems, obviously, just a few of which I’ve hopefully helped explained.
And there will be-needs to be-investigations soon, in case there are more systemic problems. Until then I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories.
Most likely, the current government is done-for. (Well they’re already gone cus they formed a unity government for the war in the meantime, but you know what I mean.) They won’t get re-elected, if they don’t forfeit before that. Even if nothing comes of investigations, there were enough failures-whether justified or not, you can consider the logistical/ practical/ psychological points I raised earlier and decide for yourself-that this is the way of things.
Love what you do Corey…wow Israelis have become more polite! None of them (and I say this respectfully) corrected “Tzavah HazakA”… Tzava Hazak…because it ends with letter א…..just sayin’.. from one Hebrew language lover to another
Lots of people knew, they were Palestinians and Iranians and Qataris….
Lots of people knew….
Egyptians have been warning the Epsteins for over a year. But they were having fun on the islands maybe. He all am saying kids are not sextoys even if your religion or books say the oppositie..
I really lack the words to explain how much this question disgust me(Obviously I know Corey just want his views).My family is from Sderot a town of 40,000 people,with military/strategic factories in there,tens of thousands of people from all social groups of Israel(left,right,secular,religious,Haredi,college town but also lot of pensioners),the mayor himself loves Bibi,majoirty of the people vote for Likud and many of young go to be fighters and good pruductive citizens.The Nazis arrived here and butchered people from house to house,took over Police stations with hostage all over,after you had barrage after barrage,Hundreds of thousands lost their home and live in Trauma.The idea that someone think this is intentional makes me sick,especially when they use it cynically after for political purposes...
I hear you, but I do see some online "Bibi, or others in Israel, knew it was coming" conspiracy baloney floating about. I was heartened by the consistently rapid response of "no way, no how" by all Israelis interviewed. They shot down that ugly rumor, and fortified my support for Israel (but not Bibi). Aloha from Hawaii.
They did know it was coming, but not exactly when. Military resources have been drifting from Gaza border for a while now. They are too busy protecting "settlers" (thieves) in the west bank, stealing more land, more administrative detention, etc.. etc...@@bobs4115
What do you think about the reports, that Netanyahu facilitated money to get to Hamas? It has been reported on several news channels, that Netanyahu ensured that large sums of money got to Hamas, because he wanted to strengthen Hamas. The idea was, that Hamas was never going to be a legitimate political force, therefore it would be better to have a powerful Hamas, than to have moderate, reasonable Palestinian leaders, who could actually build a state.
@@rahelkamber4839 I disagree with "reports" that put evil motives,they are hit pieces. Netanyahu loosed the restrictions(even giving dual use pruducts),he expanded fishing rights,he granted workers visa(which is very strong taboo),he let the Qataris give money for all services all because he thought(and not only he but also the previous government and Military establishment,and the Americans and Europeans,and Arabs and I can continue)that if you give them massive wealth creation,jobs and money(which happend)they will not want to risk it and attack.Well he was wrong and not only him,everyone who was part of this was(and they should answer for their mistakes especially the Military).
Another thing that is not popular to say out loud but I will say it,not ONE Israeli believe in "moderate" Palestinians bullshit after the 2nd intifada(this is why actual Leftists in Israel disappeared),the "separating" of Gaza and West Bank willingly or not(and therefore not wanting united Palestinian state)again is not only Netanyahu,this is literally every government since Hamas rise from Gaza.Israel loudly said we don't want Gaza(and de facto made it state),while Israel NEED the West Bank for security and keep Israel safe,keeping the status que with as less deaths as possible(with either giving it up with good security agreement or annexing it depends on what side are you on),again in strategic terms he did nothing different then the leftists or centrists,they just talked more gently.
Grumpy old man Tel-aviv Edition... lol