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Big camcorders vs small camcorders Sony CX405 Panasonic VX981 Z90V JVC 500
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ต.ค. 2023
- I LOVE CAMCORDERS! But which ones do I love more? I don't need big camcorders to impress people with my manliness. I love small consumer camcorders. Why do I love camcorders? Because they are FUN! Sure the sensors are smaller, so what. They are FUN and EASY to use and they can run all day without overheating. I don't need built in ND filters or XLR inputs or 4:2:2 Prorez and heck, I don't even need 4K! Geez, people are so obsessed with specs nowadays. I love making magic with little simple things.
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Panasonic HC-X1 camcorder
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As a professional camera operator since 1994,I have to say, that the really big shoulder-mount ENG cameras. ( 20.000 dollars + ) are made to last, they are real workhorses. With very good viewfinders, Timecode generators (IN, OUT) , SDI1,SDI2 out, HDMI out, 4 audio channel input, built in multiple ND-s, built in audio limiters that can be adjusted or turned off, no overheating... many things why I still prefer them as my main camera. For a small camera I use the Sony FX3. But I agree, for TH-cam is overkill to use such big cameras.
The Z90V in this video also has all that- SDI, HDMI, timecode, built in ND filters, 4 channel audio etc. I just never use that stuff
For me, the real question is how to get broadcast quality video at a reasonable price. I own a Sony CX900 (the HD prosumer version of the Z90) and am impressed how gorgeous my HD 60p Blu-rays look. The camera is far from perfect in design and feature set, but the images have made me a happy prosumer.
Sometimes i own Panasonic dvx100 & dvx200.
Where is Panasonic px800, px5000 & cx4000 ??
Yes, for a TV studio or ENG where you have a whole team for news, yes. But the cinematic world is different. Audio can be separatedly recorded (and much better quality), NDs can be attached (IF needed> control over lights!), SDIs are not relevant unless its hollywood and 2 teams, and so on... For the average artist, even cheap cameras like the FX30 are absolutely overkill. LF in Venice LOG? Holy crap 😀Who cares, if the story is not good.
I love shooting with my DSR500 even if it's just standard def. You can't hardly tell the difference after youtube's compression has done its worst anyway. If I'm just shooting for fun, I'll often just take that massive old monster out.
The reason for XLR is beyond just connecting shotgun microphones if you are in a news gathering scenario you need to be able to connect to a patch bay to get an audio feed of a press conference or connect to handheld microphone. Camera's like the larger ones in the video give you everything you need in one package and have features you need in broadcast like SDI. The smaller sensor in these also gives you greater focal length allowing for greater reach.
"XLR is part of the stone age..." I can add this sound device thingy for another $1K that is much better....
What I liked about the video is it backed up my decision to go with a Canon XA70 as opposed to a Canon XF605. The XA is half the size of the XF and has sound capability that allows for a nice semi-pro $300 shotgun mic. The bigger model is so nice... but twice the price. The cheapo 1080P consumer model camcorders aren't doing it for me for athletic events.
The problem is that he has never worked in a live broadcast situation. Mickey Mouse adapters and 3.5mm jack adaptors work well for mirrorless cams, but come to a situation where you need to feed to an OB van they will never cut it
Actually I worked in Hollywood for 20 years. Even made my own 2.5 million dollar movie that was in theaters all over the world. We did not use 3.5mm jacks. Pay attention. I said Lemo 3 and TAF4 . Maybe you don't know what that is.
To claim that XLR is part of the stone age is a bit ridiculous to me. There's no need to abandon XLR. How many shotgun microphones, multi or single input field recorders use a Lemo 3, or TA4F connector for input are there not any that I know of? TA3F or Mini XLR probably but aren't common. How many Lav mics use a sure TA4F or mini XLR connector plenty.
How many boom poles use anything but an XLR connector. in those scenarios what is the benefit of a smaller connector?
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I would agree. I hate/resent being placed in the situation of so much gear having 3.5mm because the majority of it does not use a threaded lock down hardware to keep them in place. It's just a matter of when it will loosen up, get "scratchy" and drop signal, not if. They've never had enough spring tension possible to 100% snap a plug in tight compared to the old 1/4" size of the same format.
It's also harder to find good shielded 2 conductor cables off the shelf in 3.5mm suitable jacket diameters.
Since 2020 I have the Sony AX-700, little brother to that Z90. No regrets. I already had invested in portable multi channel recorders for live music so I wanted to put them to use in video; thus my choice not to pay that $800 Cdn more for the XLR handle. I do much prefer the camcorder physical orientation and controls, always have. I confess I take out my A7III for video too but it's not as enjoyable, easy to steady by hand only, or reassuring to operate and monitor. @@MarkusPix
Unexpected cameo haha :) I hope the camcorder industry makes a comeback!
My two favorite Ontario photography dudes are collaborating!
Don't camcorders really make the most sense for vlogging? They do need to make a comeback.
The one big problem of the smaller camcorders is that the're usually limited to 30fps at 4K. If you film sporting events or anything else that has a lot of movement then 60FPS looks so much better. If you're shooting 30FPS on a bright day without the right ND filter you end up with a staccato mess due to the ultra-high shutter speeds that usually result with small camcorders in those lighting conditions.
I would have loved to buy the Sony AX53 as a 4K upgrade to my 1080p Sony BOSS camcorder but only does 30FPS at 4K. Ended up going with the Panasonic HX-1500 because it does offer a full 60FPS at 4K. The stabilization isn't as good on the Panasonic and it is bigger but it's still super-light, has built-in ND filters, will record for 4 hours on a single battery, doesn't overheat and has a great EVF (something that's also missing on cheaper camcorders) for working in bright sunlight.
Completely agree with the staccato mess statement. Use ND filters with 180° shutter, or 60 FPS.
You're such a big kid but your enthusiasm is infectious. It's also lovely that youre so down to earth and unpretentious. Yet you've all these years of experience that you share with the world. Thanks for the tips!
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Excellent video as always. And a surprise cameo from Camera Conspiracies! Was not expecting that!
Hey Markus, I bought the Sony RX VII a year ago based on YOUR recommendation. You were so right. It was nice to see it mentioned again here. The camera helped me launch my own TH-cam channel. It's perfect. You're an amazing resource and inspiration. Carry on....
Markus, I was using the CX405 for a while, but needed a better sensor for night shooting. I switched over to the Sony a6300, but it overheated when shooting during the day. Your videos convinced me to temper my ego and go back to a camcorder. Picked up the Sony AX700, and it is so good. People always comment how good the video looks. Thanks for all you do in educating and entertaining us!
I also have the AX700, it's great. It's so easy to use even in manual mode. The only thing that's bad is if you're walking around you need a stabilization unit and it can get a bit heavy.
You are the reason I bought a CX405. Glad to see you are still making videos about it.
I fell in love with camcorders with the first Sony Video 8. It had a flying erase head for clean edits (no VHS glitches) and it just seemed to get the shot every time. Camcorders are so well balanced and incredibly underrated these days. Great video Markus. BTW. Who doesnt love a good zoom rocker?
I've been using my 405 for years just love it, I started out with Panasonic 3tube and Sony 3/4inch tape, over 45lbs walking around plus battery belts, uggg, now my Sony 405 is my choice for video, thanks Markus, glad you still have your 405
Thank you Markus! Always a joy seeing your reviews!
Awesome video! I don't know why people have such a hate for camcorders, I own several and it is funny how some people react to them. Anywho... fun to see Camera Conspiracies in the end! Really enjoyed the colab you did with Kasey!
I really enjoy my Panasonic VX 981 and still discovering how to use it. I still have my betacams and VHS camcorders, just hard to get rid of my old cameras. Thanks for the recommendation on the Panasonic.
My god!! So much logic and I love it! Feels like it makes sense and not pushing you the latest “greatest” thing!!!
I love the AX53. I use it for top-down shots mainly now. I do love the Z90V and may end up still investing in one. Camcorders offer great functionality to gain greater focal length. I would love to see you do a similar video on ENG style cameras to add in the Z280, or the Z150. Great video! Thanks Markus!
that would be great, to see ax53 with 1" sensor from sony zv-1 series ^^
Markus, I just want to thank you for all your time and effort you put into making these videos. I am a lifelong Godox owner and fan because of your videos demonstrating their products. Many I didn't even know they existed. You have saved me soooo much time and money, and now I have a very versatile kit to photograph under any situation. Many thanks!! Thomas
I used a JVC camcoder, had to stop around 2012, because it started to show hot pixels. Swapped it for Canon 650D back then. They both collect dust on a shelf now, but sometimes I think about taking JVC for a grainy session.
Love your enthusiasm for the little guys. Thanks mate. Subscribed
I was after a video camera for recording alongside my wildlife photography, and Markus has just shown me the light, big thank you !
Marcus can good video (and audio) from a rock. Always amazing stuff!
Thank you for talking about the fun element. I like shooting on small camcorders, but they aren't used a lot in the TH-cam sphere so they don't get much attention. Still, I like them and have been having fun with TH-cam and family videos.
You two are really having great fun with your cameos 😂
I think of the large ones as being good "event cameras", for something in an auditorium or large performance space, that can be set up with minimal hassle. The XLR is handy for taking an audio feed from a sound board. I use a couple of these for work and they do the job. I have smaller camcorders that I personally bought for similar tasks. Once again, they do the job. We are lucky to be living in a time when choices have never been wider, even if prices seem to be creeping up. And up...
Always a pleasure to watch. Thank you ❤
Y'know Markus thres so many scammers and bad people on the internet you my friend are such a breath of fresh air with your really cool, fun attitude towards creativity and life. i struggle with depression and you always make me feel really good and postive thank you.
Thank you Markus for always giving the raw facts, and showing what truly matters in equipment as always!
I love my mini but mighty cx405! Thanks for making this videos Markus, it’s entertaining and informative.
Peace.
i was just looking for used camcorders on ebay yesterday... this video will help me allot, thanks
Very enjoyable and super informative. Learned a lot from watching your videos. Thanks for making them!
That was the best 12 minutes explaining what I’ve tried to tell my daughter that is a remarkable artist/photographer & videographer regarding these video/photography cameras with more bling and cost than necessary. I retired from film around the same time digital started.
I can’t understand the new technology but I can tell stories and that’s what’s kept her tech business afloat. I’m talking into getting rid of ask her wasted equipment that collects dust and to just trust me that she can have a digital studio in one small domke camera bag. Your video helped tremendously in helping her see the light. Thank you.
I threatened to also let her create a story without my help at all. She knows her tech skills will get her nowhere. I want her to exercise her creativity and not be trapped by marketing garbage.
I agree that the shape of a camcorder is way more fun to use than an SLR or one of those gigantic pro cameras. I have an old JVC GZ-EX210BUS that only does 1080p but I love using it for recording bands when I go out to see them play live. The sound quality of the built-in mic is actually pretty good!
Loved the cameo from Camera Conspiracies. The most fun camera I have is the GX850- uncomplicated, take it out, shoot from the hip. Super fun.
I LOVE the GX850 !!!
@@MarkusPix I tried to like the G100. On paper, it's better, but the EVF isn't great and the flip-out screen isn't as fun as the flip -up screen IMO.
@@MarkusPixare there any low light camcorders that can film the night sky, not just the moon but stars? Appreciate your help and advice thank you!
Thank you very much for the huge information that you shared with us, I know that's a priceless experience you shared. I'm writing this in the middle of your video to say how I exited
Great video Markus. I use a GH6 as my main camera. Sometimes mirrorless cameras can get so rigged out that a camcorder might be beneficial. More of a run and gun for professionals. The one inch sensor is not good for events though. Indoor event lighting can be all over the place and a larger sensor can make a huge difference.
I love using camcorders too. All mine are really old and not great quality but it's all I can afford for now. I stream shows using 3 panasonics This weekends stream I did use my canon c100 MK1 though. So much more fun than using my DSLR. Great video as always Markus. A pleasure to watch 😊
If you are a camera operator, the big cameras feel like an extension to your body. The Sony FS7 is still a work horse. Big camera body with a Super 35 sensor, built in NDs, 4K and also Raw output. It was a costly camera and still is as a used one. Works right out of box without any extensions and is built like a tank.
I really like the Sony Z90V. Great size, and I prefer camcorders for videos. Thanks for the comparisons!
All I want is the perfect camera, love colabs Marcus 😊
I'm absolutely hooked on your videos - they're a perfect blend of informative and entertaining, and your energy somehow reminds me of 'Saul Goodman' from Breaking Bad! 😄 By the way, this video comes in just in time because I am currently looking for an A-camera for my Sony a74. Your insights are really helpful. Thank you.
I saw the RX100VII coming a mile away, Markus (because I saw your video comparing it with the XF605). I have a RX100V and I take it everywhere. Thanks!
Best video to date brother. I had an XF300 but sold it. Hoping to get something small at some point... Tim in Dublin Ireland . Thanks for the enjoyable videos!
Happy to see my another favourite youtuber "Camera Conspiracy" with you Markus! ❤
Couldn't agree with you more! I've been using a Canon Vixia HF R600 for a few years and couldn't be happier with the quality. I even use one for streaming my TH-cam show every week - 1080/30 and it gives top quality every time. Bought two of them on eBay and paid all of $250 total.
This is the best and most sincere camera review on TH-cam I've ever seen. You've done so well to highlight the differences in the cameras, it's left for the viewer to choose, but yh I agree with you, smaller cameras are so liberating 😅. The Sony ax43 and ax53 are also powerful beasts in a small body but I'm glad you mentioned that the panosinic is much cheaper. Sony is so powerful but their prices are a bit over. Thanks for the enlightenment once again.
Thanks for watching!
I love my Sony 405 - it's perfect for the run & gun shots. Good smooth zoom but takes practice. Sound is good if you want ambient audio. Slight tweaking in post for my voice. Thanks again for a great review.
Camera onboard mics are constantly mocked, but there are some that actually have decent sound. The trouble is that we rarely hear about it because no one trusts camera mics.
Love that Sony RX 100Vii. I think it's a must have. I went to Italy and Cuba with a Panasonic 40x optical zoom tiny camera ZS60 and loved the pics and video. I can imagine the Sony is better. Talk about fun. Thanks Markus
After watching one of your videos (and a few others), bought a JVC GYLS300 and a bunch of MFT len's instead of a giant Panasonic. Great size, weight, image quality, flexibility, battery life and it runs all day without smoke coming out of it.. Use this in conjunction with some MFT cameras as all can share the same len's. Have shot hundreds of hours of broadcast TV in the UK on this. Quite old but very useable. Also had a tiny Panasonic SD900 consumer camera back in 2011 (still have it, still works).. This blew most of the pro 1080p cameras at the time out of the water.
The new dji pocket cam with 1in sensor is, supposedly, pretty good.
@@TobiasRieperGoodit has a 4x digital zoom, but still not as good as camcorders, mirrorless or some phones
I can buy x3 cx405's, and a couple tripods and mics for the cost of one of those with the creator pack!
I use a camcorder with a 1inch sensor and 24-490 equivalent zoom. Thinking about getting the Osmo Pocket 3 for when I need something wider, 20mm equivalent lens, optional optical reducer takes it to 15mm.
Marcus has that one too. From the comments he’s made just doesn’t fit him as well a camcorder.
I have tha pamasonic hdc tm700. I like it and i feel nostalgic and ashame using now that cam against new gadgets.. love your vids, greetings from Peru🇵🇪
If it makes you feel good, use it!
Hey, just found your channel. Great vid. You are spot on. YOU RULE! Subbed. 👍😎❤👍😎
Me too man. I'm obsessed with camcorders.
Always great info!! Thank you.
You gotta love this guy, content is always somewhat special.
love your video . I still saving but you hooked me on the sony vg 30 . wish they come out with new model still expensive . I use a odo its 4k and 1080 not perfect but great videos . thanks to learning from your video i got ride of those old big clunky ones and yes they were terrible . keep the videos coming
5:06 music to my ears! Love that $225 chime because I know I'm going to enjoy watching later what everybody else missed shooting because they were digging through their camera bags to find the right lens.
I love my Sony CX405 . I take it with me everywhere! Just like you said... it's fun! it hase great zoom also! I don't have to change lenses, and it's so portable! I jsut put it in my pocket and I'm ready to go. I use it to film my everyday specially my daughters adventures. Thank you for sharing this video!
I love the Sony RX S100. It does amazing things; I agree! The only thing it doesn't do is stay on for more than 5 minutes or so. It makes it hell to film a long take or to film oneself while performing a 45 minute set. So it looks like the only other option is the Z90V. Thank you for all the great info and tips. P.S. Really enjoying your videos - keep 'em coming!
Love these kind of videos. You should make a compact camera video for example hx99 with the 30x zoom. That will be fun!
I just loveit when TH-camrs meet in person and appear on one of the others videos.
Wow, surprising to learn the performance differences. That's shocking. Great video!
I love when you do Camcorders, I love them too. Currently using a Sony AX-33, the only thing I don't like about it is the Zoom is weak, and viewfinder wimpy. I shoot Surfing videos and like the small size.
Good to KNOW
thanks
Makes Perfect sense.
My first video camera was an AX100, which served me well for several years. At one point, I upgraded to a DVX200, which was a big camcorder with a M43 sensor, and definitely produced a better image than the AX100. Used both for several years. A couple of years ago, I bought the GH5M2 which has produced the best image yet and is nearly as small as the AX100, which I eventually sold. With a Tascam DR-70D I bought back in 2013, and a good variable ND filter, I have everything I wanted from the DVX200 including those XLR connectors. BTW, you're right in that long cable runs are the main reason to use XLR, although using a good stereo mic pair for immersive audio is easier with XLR inputs, so it helps for the work I do.
I too have AX100, and a DVX200. However I added a JVC LS300, which has a super 35 sensor with an MFT mount, and that is my most versatile large sensor camera. I too have a GH5 M2 and a GH5S and a G9. The G9 is my most used video camera, but the LS300 is the one I enjoy the most.
I have the RX also, its really nice. It stops after a few minutes though. Its my vacation camera and it looks great. New cameras that do video are amazing. The one inch sensor movement has changed everything.
I have a Sony CX240 sat right here (and a Canon 70D, which also shoots amazing 1080p footage). I love this vid for the side-by-side actual comparison of the quality. Also, as I've said for years "all the gear" doesn't make someone creative. Some of the most iconic movies of all time were shot on gear far inferior to even the budget stuff we have access to these days. Thanks Markus!
Couldn't agree more. While, my main TH-cam camera is a Canon 90D, I shoot more than one angle. My other cameras are the Panasonic VX981 4k camcorder, my Sony CX440, and my Canon M50. I use the Panasonic most of the time and is the camera I grab first, on the go.
Markus, you show what works for you, and often what isn't. Camcorders were nowhere on my radar, and after watching, suddenly I'm looking up prices. 😆
You prevented me from wasting so much money with these videos. Thanks so much.
crazy informative video, thanks man
My church has 3 981's and we love them for live-streaming. solid little units that's for sure!
I already love your church 😊
Wow thank you for your awsome advice you are an A1 class act, I'm going to do my research on all you sent over to me thanks again your the best 👍
Nice video Markus I think it really depends on what you’re using the camera for I personally own 9 x Panasonic HCX1 cameras which I do for live concert and live sport. In fact there is currently a program on the BBC iPlayer which features all of my cameras, this particular model if it shot in 24p cinema 4K, offers a stunning picture they are super reliable run all day on batteries and yes as you say they do have excellent superb audio quality They’re also great run and gun documentary or news cameras. they are very very versatile indeed have shot music videos and interviews. I cannot recommend them highly enough
Thanks for this I’ve been obsessed with the IPhone but am going back to my little Sony cx 240e or maybe get a CX 405 or a CX 450
I always loved the mini my self. in video school there were always the people who bought into every latest and greatest. your right on the money about the picture quality vs impressing a client. even my canon VIXIA GH50 IS TOO BIG. and i LOVE 1080p. it eats up way less hard drive space and it looks great. i still have and use my old canon VIXIA hfm 50 cam corder.
Thank you Markus 😊!
Thanks for your honest review, its a thing a dont often see today
Thanks Markus❤ Love that Sony 405....that sound is magic
I started out with camcorders back in the day and wasted years trying to do video with a Nikon, manual lens setup because I already had the lens. So many wasted shoots because of struggling to be in focus. Had to use an external monitor. Cards filled up fast. Got the cheapest camera here Markus suggested and my biggest headache is getting the sd card recognized. Otherwise love it always in focus. Love the flip monitor so I can see myself. Very happy and it was affordable. Thank you Markus!
Great practical thinking , thanks👍
cool video, i like your points and i agree. the technology has come along that even these smaller cameras are mind blowing and perhaps the engineers realized their smaller size is more practical so they put more r&d into the smaller units, hence why they got so good. which brings me to another point. would be interesting to see a smartphone camera from some of the flagships and how it stacks up against those smaller ones you really like.
Thanks for all your videos
Camera Conspiracies at the end?! My two favorite camera people!
Again an awesome video and it really helps about all the tech stuff, that is out there. Usually I am looking for some small tiny but somewhat of a good quality. Just got the tascam DR-10L pro for audio and they are so great, a huge step forward. just about to look and test some mics with it. And for shooting videos there is just a sony a6000 there, which works great, but maybe a little update somewhen in the future but works for now, even though it was made for photography. For some action I think one of the dji osma will come, they are just so tiny but have great stability I guess. :D
Love your honesty.
Love camcorders ❤❤great video ! Thank you for sharing!
Agree with you about camcorders. I've got the Sony AX53 and am very happy with the video quality. It also lacks the green tint often found in Sony colour science that people complain about.
However, as you say, if you turned up for a job with one, rather than one of the bigger camcorders, people wouldn't take you seriously, but imo it actually outperforms them.
The Sony Z90V's footage looked awesome, but is rather expensive!
I would say camcorders are more about ergonomics and how you hold the camera then anything else. Also cameras have a good general lens. Its why TV stations use them. I heard about some TV show wanting to switch to the Canon C300 back in the day and Philip Bloom again that's going to be a headache switching lens I believe it was a surfing showing in Australia. And who wants to change lens all the time on the beach with all that sand and salt in the air.
Agreed.
I use many types depending on my job. The Sony Z280 can't be beat for professional dance, lectures and theater. My Small Sony FX3 (equivalent your Sony A7 line) is amazing for B roll and interviews.
Love the vids man🤘😁
love this videos, real personal uses.
After watching your video on the CX 405 I bought 2 used ones for less than $250 total. I'm still working out the subject matter for a puppet music video I created. Talk about lots of steps. Camera angles, lighting, staging costumes and the most time consuming the dreaded 'EDITING" A lot of work for just one guy but at 69 I have a lot of time on my hands and since I am the boss I do it at my own pace.😃. Thanks for suggesting the CX405 video camera. They work great. Oh and a big Hello to Cara.😃
Great video, thanks!
Great review geeat advice.
HC-X1 is from 2016, discontinued and replaced by the HC-X20. MSRP for the X20 is $2600, everything has been improved. My kitchen is airconditioned, but I shoot motorsports in the hot sun, 90-100 degree heat, dust, and smoke.
I work as a professional cameraman here in Germany. I must say, there are different cameras for different purposes. The cameras you showed are all small compared to what you need for professional use in sports, for example. We are currently working with the Sony PXW-Z750, where one lens alone is as expensive as all the cameras in your video combined. There are good reasons for this: the usability and the speed. No DSLR or mini camcorder can keep up. For portraits or film-like documentaries we also use the Sony Alpha 7S III and mainly the FX9. There are appropriate cameras for all purposes.
I've used all of those from factors and I can tell you that Markus is SPOT ON!
Love your videos!~
You’ve touted the quality and your love for the Sony RX series since I’ve been watching your videos. They are some amazing cameras. But you could make a potato record good video. 😂
Having said that. I will totally buy your fx 6 if you don’t want it. lol.
Love it. Camera conspiracies at the end. ❤❤❤
Preach brother! Love my Sony CX700!