You're not the only one who agrees with this... Google Podcasts should have folded into Google Play Music, and TH-cam Premium should have remained like it was back in the day.
100%. So much GPM functionality never got ported over, and YT is a confusing mess. I have zero confidence that podcasts will get updated on a reasonable schedule (they shiuld have had that all ready to go when announcing the shutdown). I've used Pocketcasts for many years, my only complaint is no Wear app
Oh I thought it was: Make a good app, update it over time to make it a Great app, kill it off, Then have people integrate into a new, unpolished app with the promise of "we'll make it better over time"
First YT replaces the great Google Play Music, now it's Google Podcasts. I just don't like that video playlists are added to YTM and audio playlists are added to TH-cam-it gets cluttered. I'm not switching to YTM Podcasts, so I'm testing out Pocket Casts.
Thank you so much for this video. The feature that I primarily used on Google Podcasts was “Marked as played” and it was quite shocking when TH-cam music couldn’t even do that much. I’ve moved on to Pocket Casts and I’m already at ease with the simplicity of it all.
I feel like this is a bad move by Google. Nothing wrong with the app at all. The simplicity made it the best to me and they are killing it for a convoluted mess that is YT Music. I've been using Snip'd and I like it so far but this still bums me out.
Ig they're only killing it because it didn't create revenue but cost too much to maintain. I already suspected it when it didn't get a proper material u interface.
I'm with you, I can't stand having my podcasts and music all jumbled together. I want to say even with Google Play Music, there was podcast integration before the stand-alone app that had a hard divider between the music and podcast side. So they know how to do it.
Honestly, the ever growing Google graveyard makes me _extremely_ skeptical about starting to use any new Google service. Does anyone remember Google+? Yeah, me neither. 😒 Maybe if Google spent less effort on AI guardrails that produce diverse Nazis and more on long term product vision, this would be less of an issue.
I guess it just has to do with google's approach. They create so many services and watch which one's catch on. Some find small user bases which really like that one app but remain unknown in the greater Android world. Like here: most Android users just never knew about Google podcasts.
Was a dedicated GP user. I tried a few and there were no bad ones that I tried but settled on Aurelian. It is the closest to GP in my view. Very simple to learn after making the switch.
thanks useful! I've just downloaded Antenna and it looks like what I need, all the simplicity of google podcasts, no pointless bells and whistles, also gets BBC content, so good alternative to BBC sounds maybe.
i have the same sentiment, I guess I was part of the 3% that listen to Google Podcasts every day. I did export all my subscriptions to TH-cam Music but like you just pointed out there are a lot of features still missing. The big one for me is the "mark as played". In the meantime, I'm still using Google Podcasts until April 2nd and sometimes I use my iPad to listen to Apple Podcasts. Hopefully, Google will unclutter their Podcast on TH-cam Music and add all those missing features from Google Podcasts.
I was in the same boat. I actually use YT music a lot for just music, but importing podcasts made everything intolerably messy. Now I'm using pocket casts and I'm quite happy with it.
As you said in the video, there should either be TWO separate apps, or a completely different interface in UTM. If there are no podcast mode settings/options in Music, what's the point 🤷🏻♂️❓
TH-cam Music defaults to streaming even if the episode is downloaded. I set it to not use data, so after downloading, I start the podcast before leaving my house and as soon as I'm out of wifi range it stops playing when it really should just be playing the download.
aw hell no I'm not going to use a music app i don't even use just to listen to podcasts, i'm switching to Apple Podcasts from now on, shame it isn't available on my Pixel but it is on my Mac and iPad. I want my music and my podcasts to be on separated, dedicated apps.
Yt music doesn't have all of the podcasts that it hasn't transferred over. Like there is a local podcast that I listen to. Google might not have transferred everything to yt music just yet
I've recently discovered Antenna app and I'm giving it a chance, but I'm still attached to Podurama. By the way, I saw you installed it but didn't mention in the video. Why?
Thanks for great review, couldn't agree more. I really loved Google Podcast for its simplicity and clean UI. Just get your latest subscribed episodes in the main page, then download and add to que. Worked great in offline mode as well.
I love Google Podcasts, guess I'm gonna have to shop around for a new app, I can't stand that YT Music garbage, it's the first thing I uninstall when setting up a new device.
listening history, and manual listening queue, are the most important features , editing the queue - could be a great feature to add to google podcasts
When news of this app being closed first broke, the hosts on an Android-focused podcast I listen to admitted that almost none of them had ever even tried G-Podcasts, let alone use it regularly. So I'm not the least bit surprised that it's being closed - it simply didn't have a large enough user-base to keep it going. I stopped using it after episode sorting & management never improved, even after repeated Feedback submissions to Google over the years.
I’m a massive hater when it comes to decisions like this. Shit like this makes me want to leave the Google ecosystem because what’s even the point of adopting their next product?? That being said, a podcast app with comments including sounds much needed, and TH-cam is already a strong source of community feedback. This is Google leaning into their strengths which is smart of them. But it sounds like podcasts in TH-cam music need a bit of work.
Ahh I'm not the only one extremely disgusted by this , that's insane how google can not be consistent in his branding ! Gp is on of their best app ever , they kill it like this 🤦🤦🤦
Google podcast is the only place where I get my podcast. I tried everything else. Nothing as simple and usefull attention focus place for getting my podcasts. I hated the news on my email box.
Google podcast has support to add rss feeds. So in theory you could use it without googles servers but google wants you to login to add a rss subscription
Agree with all you've said. I love the simplicity. I've been away for a few days, just queue up for car journey. Then nark played. Easy to find. Almost needs a drop down at the top. Or a pinned button at the bottom. I'll look at your suggestions. Can't easily find or they aren't there for a lot of existing subs. Can't subscribe as such in fbd same way. Just like a messy v1.2 version.
My problem with podcasts on YTM that I can't find any of my podcasts bcz it doesn't support RSS search like Google Podcast so I imported them but still you can't find any podcasts unless it's a video version and really weird suggestions from normal TH-cam videos, plus it's a mess , I'm trying pocket cast but I'm still using Google podcast everyday until the shutdown
Hey man nice video btw! I know where you coming from! but have discovered here myself now atm and going to give it a try tonight see how it Works! hopefully it does and if so will be my new Media player altogether.
I don't get it. For example, I live in a country where Yt music is not available. Google Podcasts was always available and I remain with 0 alternatives.
Yeah, I'm switching to a dedicated 3th party podcast app, like most users probably, it amazes me Google didn't look at both Spotify and Soundcloud which offers podcast functionality nobody use.
Just got the dreaded email from Google Podcast, time to move on to etiher Antenna or Castbox. It is such a shame because I really do not like TH-cam music as a platform for my podcasts.
Why not eliminate everything but the TH-cam app? Users could have the ability to select from the normal yt, music or podcast interface from the bottom or something. Everybody wins?
It really does make sense. Yes, I have Google Podcasts but only remember to listen there only a handful of times in years. On the other hand, I will frequently queue up a TH-cam video and listen to it as a podcast instead of watching it as a video.
As Google Podcasts comes to an end (tomorrow) I've tried the TH-cam Music app over the past couple of months. I won't be using it in future. The constantly increasing number of adverts we are faced with in TH-cam is bad enough but I'm not going to put up with that in a podcast player when simply I don't have to. Google doesn't own the podcasts I listen to, like most podcasts they are free, so why would I accept a third party inserting adverts in when there are other apps I can use. I like the openness of Android and I own a Pixel but I don't like a company that pushes you towards a paid subscription to avoid adverts.
Honestly, I like YT music today. Hated it initially but over the years since the switch over from GPM. It's gotten a lot better. I still miss GPM's personal library streaming though. As for podcasts. I've always used PodcastAddict.
2:34 That disclaimer on the top of the app saying you won't be able to listen to podcasts. Is it limited only to the audience in the USA? Here in India, I am not able to see that.
As a hardcore google user , I feel you guys . Google still don't understand what ECOSYSTEM really means !!! They destroy their own ecosystem , like they hate their own name " google " that's crazy 🤦
Google Podcasts doesn't work as of today 4/3/2024. I agree with you TH-cam Music is too complicated and music mixed with podcasts is terrible. I will try the ones you suggested. Thanks for the video.
The youtube music replacement isn't just about changing to another podcast app. The youtube music downloads podcasts from podcasts' database only once, while normal podcast app downloads for each user each play, counting as creators' income. All the work to gain full control to podcast ads and monopoly the business. Sure, it would be easier for small creator since google does the math and give them money, but users would be having this level of variety when choosing pod cast apps in the future.
Good news bad news. Bad news? The answer is no, nothing is safe at google. Good news? Looking pretty good there, just need to look in a mirror to cheer up.
When Google Podcasts came on my new phone in 2020, I had no intention of using it. I changed my mind when I discovered that it was better than Podcast Addict. Of course, now that I love it, they are getting rid of it. Typical.
I want to like YT music, but it's missing so many of the podcasts I listen to. The fact I can't mark an episode as played is huge. I'd say until there are a few improvements then I'll stick with Spotify.
Not a fan of the combination because it loses track where I am at in a podcast. Say I'm on podcast 400 out of 800. If I listen to a song and go back to podcast, I then have to scroll for a minute just to get back to where I was at.
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Google Podcast had a really nice aesthetic.
This is Google Play Music ALL OVER AGAIN. I still hate YT music and miss GPM.
You're not the only one who agrees with this...
Google Podcasts should have folded into Google Play Music, and TH-cam Premium should have remained like it was back in the day.
It's just Google all over again.
100%. So much GPM functionality never got ported over, and YT is a confusing mess. I have zero confidence that podcasts will get updated on a reasonable schedule (they shiuld have had that all ready to go when announcing the shutdown). I've used Pocketcasts for many years, my only complaint is no Wear app
Here I am missing MOG....
Me. too. Me too.
google's "Strategy"; make a good app, then ruin it later
or just cancel it.
Fact , they just killed their best app instead of putting ads on it , I'm disgusted
Oh I thought it was:
Make a good app, update it over time to make it a Great app, kill it off, Then have people integrate into a new, unpolished app with the promise of "we'll make it better over time"
First YT replaces the great Google Play Music, now it's Google Podcasts. I just don't like that video playlists are added to YTM and audio playlists are added to TH-cam-it gets cluttered.
I'm not switching to YTM Podcasts, so I'm testing out Pocket Casts.
Pocket casts is excellent. A switched from Google podcasts to it a while back
Give AntennaPod a try :) it's pretty clean too
@@pabloscloud I installed it and I like it so far, it looks like Google Podcasts and it supports Material You 👍🏼
Thanks man. Rest in peace the simplest & best podcast app for Android
Google is always getting rid of something 😂
And this time , one of their best app ever 😢
*something good
They even replaced Google assistant to Gemini
I love yt music, but you cant mix podcasts with music. Like you said, it should be a standalone tab within yt music where you have your podcasts
Thank you so much for this video. The feature that I primarily used on Google Podcasts was “Marked as played” and it was quite shocking when TH-cam music couldn’t even do that much. I’ve moved on to Pocket Casts and I’m already at ease with the simplicity of it all.
I feel like this is a bad move by Google. Nothing wrong with the app at all. The simplicity made it the best to me and they are killing it for a convoluted mess that is YT Music. I've been using Snip'd and I like it so far but this still bums me out.
Ig they're only killing it because it didn't create revenue but cost too much to maintain. I already suspected it when it didn't get a proper material u interface.
@@robezy0they should have put some ads on this perfect app . I am disgusted 🤦
They dont care about the consumer. They care about making Money, they've proven that time after time.
I'm with you, I can't stand having my podcasts and music all jumbled together. I want to say even with Google Play Music, there was podcast integration before the stand-alone app that had a hard divider between the music and podcast side. So they know how to do it.
Sadly they either fired those people long ago or repurposed them for something else.
Google Podcasts was the one app they got right....as usual Google chooses to get rid of the good ones and keep the crap "TH-cam Music"
Gone but not forgotten
Honestly, the ever growing Google graveyard makes me _extremely_ skeptical about starting to use any new Google service. Does anyone remember Google+? Yeah, me neither. 😒 Maybe if Google spent less effort on AI guardrails that produce diverse Nazis and more on long term product vision, this would be less of an issue.
I guess it just has to do with google's approach. They create so many services and watch which one's catch on. Some find small user bases which really like that one app but remain unknown in the greater Android world. Like here: most Android users just never knew about Google podcasts.
At some point, Google will shut down Google 😆
Good one 👍
Be careful you could give them some ideas , they really hate their own name " google " insane 🤦
Technically, it is already dying thanks to seo only search returns
Couldn't agree more with all your takes on this. Jordan, terrific points. I'm going to miss Google podcasts
Was a dedicated GP user. I tried a few and there were no bad ones that I tried but settled on Aurelian. It is the closest to GP in my view. Very simple to learn after making the switch.
But my podcasters aren't uploading to TH-cam music! How's that helping me?
I've been seeing the warning for months but time is almost up. Found this video looking for alternative
Pocket Casts..... The best yet
It's free?
@@redsud4380 Certainly is.... There's a subscription option, but I've never used that, so the free option is the best I've ever used.
I absolutely agree with You. It is so confusing to navigate between music and podcast. Hopefully they will address this in future updates.
thanks useful! I've just downloaded Antenna and it looks like what I need, all the simplicity of google podcasts, no pointless bells and whistles, also gets BBC content, so good alternative to BBC sounds maybe.
i have the same sentiment, I guess I was part of the 3% that listen to Google Podcasts every day. I did export all my subscriptions to TH-cam Music but like you just pointed out there are a lot of features still missing. The big one for me is the "mark as played". In the meantime, I'm still using Google Podcasts until April 2nd and sometimes I use my iPad to listen to Apple Podcasts. Hopefully, Google will unclutter their Podcast on TH-cam Music and add all those missing features from Google Podcasts.
I was in the same boat. I actually use YT music a lot for just music, but importing podcasts made everything intolerably messy. Now I'm using pocket casts and I'm quite happy with it.
i love the podcasts app. but why touch in something that works very well? i can't understand. Nice Work Jordan :)
I have Yourube premium as well and had google pod i hate youtube music for pods so ill be using your suggestions
Yep, I actually use this app more often than I thought. I like how there's a separate app for it but. Yeah it's just sad.
As you said in the video, there should either be TWO separate apps, or a completely different interface in UTM. If there are no podcast mode settings/options in Music, what's the point 🤷🏻♂️❓
No new episode notifications is infuriating.
This video is exactly what I needed. TH-cam music is not yet adequate for podcast use and I doubt it ever will be.
I honestly think they should either 1. Don’t kill it (no longer possible) and/or 2. Add a new tab at the bottom of Music
TH-cam Music defaults to streaming even if the episode is downloaded. I set it to not use data, so after downloading, I start the podcast before leaving my house and as soon as I'm out of wifi range it stops playing when it really should just be playing the download.
aw hell no I'm not going to use a music app i don't even use just to listen to podcasts, i'm switching to Apple Podcasts from now on, shame it isn't available on my Pixel but it is on my Mac and iPad. I want my music and my podcasts to be on separated, dedicated apps.
Yt music doesn't have all of the podcasts that it hasn't transferred over. Like there is a local podcast that I listen to. Google might not have transferred everything to yt music just yet
Can't add it via rss feed?
@@robezy0 not sure yet
I've recently discovered Antenna app and I'm giving it a chance, but I'm still attached to Podurama. By the way, I saw you installed it but didn't mention in the video. Why?
Thanks for great review, couldn't agree more. I really loved Google Podcast for its simplicity and clean UI. Just get your latest subscribed episodes in the main page, then download and add to que. Worked great in offline mode as well.
My go to is Podcast Addict. Clean interface, lots of features including internet radio ...
I second this! ... and it's stable and reliable for over a ~decade for me!
I love Google Podcasts, guess I'm gonna have to shop around for a new app, I can't stand that YT Music garbage, it's the first thing I uninstall when setting up a new device.
Same here , I'm very disgusted by this decision. Put podcast in a music app...wtfff 🤦
Thanks I will try antennapod because google music look really bad for podcast
listening history, and manual listening queue, are the most important features , editing the queue - could be a great feature to add to google podcasts
When news of this app being closed first broke, the hosts on an Android-focused podcast I listen to admitted that almost none of them had ever even tried G-Podcasts, let alone use it regularly.
So I'm not the least bit surprised that it's being closed - it simply didn't have a large enough user-base to keep it going.
I stopped using it after episode sorting & management never improved, even after repeated Feedback submissions to Google over the years.
I love the google podcast app.
YT music sucks for podcasts!
Thanks for recommending an alternative.
Absolutely, they want us to pass through a music app to listening our podcast wtffff
Antennapod is good. Plus its FOSS
I’m a massive hater when it comes to decisions like this. Shit like this makes me want to leave the Google ecosystem because what’s even the point of adopting their next product?? That being said, a podcast app with comments including sounds much needed, and TH-cam is already a strong source of community feedback. This is Google leaning into their strengths which is smart of them. But it sounds like podcasts in TH-cam music need a bit of work.
Ahh I'm not the only one extremely disgusted by this , that's insane how google can not be consistent in his branding ! Gp is on of their best app ever , they kill it like this 🤦🤦🤦
Apple has a dedicated app,so should Google. Killing GP is a mistake.
3 mins in and your spot on imo.
The comment section is pretty cool
Thanks for the recommendations, it really helped. Podcast republic my choice from now on.
Google podcast is the only place where I get my podcast. I tried everything else. Nothing as simple and usefull attention focus place for getting my podcasts. I hated the news on my email box.
AntennaPod is great👍
Google podcast has support to add rss feeds. So in theory you could use it without googles servers but google wants you to login to add a rss subscription
Google: lets build a product
Google: (few years) lets kill it!
Yeah. I tried. Then just went with pocketcast
Agree with all you've said. I love the simplicity. I've been away for a few days, just queue up for car journey. Then nark played. Easy to find. Almost needs a drop down at the top. Or a pinned button at the bottom. I'll look at your suggestions. Can't easily find or they aren't there for a lot of existing subs. Can't subscribe as such in fbd same way. Just like a messy v1.2 version.
Why Google just don't add their Podcast app to YT Music as separate layout with everything that it has?
Absolutely....
My problem with podcasts on YTM that I can't find any of my podcasts bcz it doesn't support RSS search like Google Podcast so I imported them but still you can't find any podcasts unless it's a video version and really weird suggestions from normal TH-cam videos, plus it's a mess , I'm trying pocket cast but I'm still using Google podcast everyday until the shutdown
Same here
I was similarly bummed about the move to the music app. It doesn't behave like I like for podcasts.
Easy fix. Make google podcast an add on to TH-cam music and change the TH-cam music Ui material you design would be amazing
Definitely a personal opinion of course 😅
Hey man nice video btw! I know where you coming from! but have discovered here myself now atm and going to give it a try tonight see how it Works! hopefully it does and if so will be my new Media player altogether.
I wasn't a fan of Google podcasts but the fact no auto deletion of played episodes on YT Music is the reason I went with antennapod
I used to love the Google podcast. It sucks that they are shutting it down.
I don't get it. For example, I live in a country where Yt music is not available. Google Podcasts was always available and I remain with 0 alternatives.
Yeah, I'm switching to a dedicated 3th party podcast app, like most users probably, it amazes me Google didn't look at both Spotify and Soundcloud which offers podcast functionality nobody use.
Just got the dreaded email from Google Podcast, time to move on to etiher Antenna or Castbox. It is such a shame because I really do not like TH-cam music as a platform for my podcasts.
Why not eliminate everything but the TH-cam app? Users could have the ability to select from the normal yt, music or podcast interface from the bottom or something. Everybody wins?
It really does make sense. Yes, I have Google Podcasts but only remember to listen there only a handful of times in years. On the other hand, I will frequently queue up a TH-cam video and listen to it as a podcast instead of watching it as a video.
I use podcast guru when on my pixel and then apples when on my 15 pro max
I am so upset over Google Podcasts! Thank you very much for the excellent recommendations for replacement apps.
Google Podcasts is a great app. Frustrating to see them shut it down. TH-cam Music is too complicated.
Absolutely, why put podcast in music app , wtfff
I miss Google Podcast.
As Google Podcasts comes to an end (tomorrow) I've tried the TH-cam Music app over the past couple of months. I won't be using it in future. The constantly increasing number of adverts we are faced with in TH-cam is bad enough but I'm not going to put up with that in a podcast player when simply I don't have to. Google doesn't own the podcasts I listen to, like most podcasts they are free, so why would I accept a third party inserting adverts in when there are other apps I can use. I like the openness of Android and I own a Pixel but I don't like a company that pushes you towards a paid subscription to avoid adverts.
Honestly, I like YT music today. Hated it initially but over the years since the switch over from GPM. It's gotten a lot better.
I still miss GPM's personal library streaming though.
As for podcasts. I've always used PodcastAddict.
I second Pocketcasts - I tried a few before finding this one the best replacement.
I think there are some places where google should listen to us.
I love Google podcasts too. Loosing it soon.
2:34 That disclaimer on the top of the app saying you won't be able to listen to podcasts. Is it limited only to the audience in the USA? Here in India, I am not able to see that.
Podcast addict? Been using that for years, and it's one of the many reasons I'm hesitant to shift to apple.
Me too and I totally agree!
As a hardcore google user , I feel you guys . Google still don't understand what ECOSYSTEM really means !!! They destroy their own ecosystem , like they hate their own name " google " that's crazy 🤦
Bless you for giving good recommendations 🙏
Great review constructive!!
Hey will you guys give brief details about Google partner setup app on Play Store, I haven't updated that since it's appeared on Play Store should i
Google Podcasts doesn't work as of today 4/3/2024. I agree with you TH-cam Music is too complicated and music mixed with podcasts is terrible. I will try the ones you suggested. Thanks for the video.
The youtube music replacement isn't just about changing to another podcast app.
The youtube music downloads podcasts from podcasts' database only once, while normal podcast app downloads for each user each play, counting as creators' income. All the work to gain full control to podcast ads and monopoly the business.
Sure, it would be easier for small creator since google does the math and give them money, but users would be having this level of variety when choosing pod cast apps in the future.
Pocketcast app is the best alternative to the OG Google podcasts
Can they keep any recent service up for long?
Good news bad news. Bad news? The answer is no, nothing is safe at google.
Good news? Looking pretty good there, just need to look in a mirror to cheer up.
I agree with everything that you said that's wrong with TH-cam podcast
Shutting down MSN check
Shutting down iTunes check
Shutting down Google Podcast in progress...
YT Music for podcasts sucks. It won't let you select date order for listening to the casts.
When Google Podcasts came on my new phone in 2020, I had no intention of using it. I changed my mind when I discovered that it was better than Podcast Addict.
Of course, now that I love it, they are getting rid of it. Typical.
I'm not ever going to TH-cam music. It was a good run guys
Google Podcasts was my app of choice, now I'm using Spotify.
Google podcasts was the best I hate Spotify
I want to like YT music, but it's missing so many of the podcasts I listen to. The fact I can't mark an episode as played is huge. I'd say until there are a few improvements then I'll stick with Spotify.
Yeah I hate how youtube music will go to a different channels podcast when I only want episodes from the one the listening to currently.
Google Podcasts great. YT Music not! Thanks for the recos, I'll check them out as YT just ain't doing it for Pods
As a Google Podcast replacement, I chose what I already I use for my Musics, which is great for both World: Spotify.
Pocket Cast is the best!
I was sad when I couldn't find Google podcast in play store.
It was better than yt music.
Not a fan of the combination because it loses track where I am at in a podcast. Say I'm on podcast 400 out of 800. If I listen to a song and go back to podcast, I then have to scroll for a minute just to get back to where I was at.
Thanks for your vid, that supposed" export to ytm was a joke to say the least
TH-cam music for podcast BLOWS! TOTAL CLUSTER AND MESSY
I hear a lot of people talk about this but no one talks about the Android auto side of this.
The UI is horrible , so sad