Being an artist that has not had the privilege of art school training, I was encouraged to see that I am already using these perspectives organically, without understanding them consciously. Thanks again for the education.
This is one of my favorite art channels I've come across. Your presentation is very good. It's very soothing, I enjoy painting to your playlist. I only wish you had more videos. I really enjoy your take on different artists and their styles, I would love to see more of that or maybe even further focus on some of your favorites.
Thank you so much, Rob. I really appreciate that. I've actually thought about doing a small series on specific Masters, but it's in competition with so many other ideas. If only I could double my time.
I know Nothing about painting but watched this video just because it was recommended...i was so surprised because i never notice these things while looking at the landscape pictures..I watched the video till the end! Very informative and you explained it really well that someone like me could understand it so nicely. 😀
Thank you for this Jill. I do photography and of late during the lockdown, I have done some Landscape work but I am sick to death of landscape photographers talking about the rule of thirds, it makes for boring photographs. I loved your shot of the tree and it was interesting to know that Troth Richards came to Cornwall & Dorset in England.
I recommend the photography of Henri Cartier-Bresson, there's a DVD about his work called the Impassioned Eye. It struck me that he did deviate from the rule of thirds some of the time, and it always worked. WHY it worked... I can't really answer but maybe you or Jill can!
@@sursurrus I think you'll find it worked because there are many Tools of composition. The rule of thirds always seemed scruffy and was based on the golden spiral. Many of the photographic vloggers use it to death and they need to open their eyes more and look at great landscape artists. It is no wonder many photographers prefer B+W, then they don't have to worry about colour spoiling their shots as in a big blob of red in the wrong place. Here is a thought, wide-angle lenses they see more than we do, so now you start trying to fill the space in, useless foreground that doesn't really add anything to the composition in fact it detracts from the main subject. I shall have a look for that DVD. Cheers
Great video. This was very useful for setting up painting ideas I might have and where to place things aesthetically. Thank you! (made some google notes on it too so I can quickly get back to it).
Ms. Jill, I keep coming back to this wonderful lesson you are teaching here! Trying to be a painter becomes very complex when you become really serious... about getting it right. Painting objects and good compositions are two different things! I've tried for years, and with all the fun and enjoyment it gives; when you want to do it better and at another level: you are this first one to know where you stand!ly I constantly search for information with strong tutorial quality, as well as information that can clearly be understood! You care about others really understanding and that is why you have so many admirers as well as perhaps good artist following you! Your explanations are soooo helpful. Do you happen to have ANY instructional materials out? Should your have a chance to respond, and I can imagine how busy you must be, and I respect your time,... please let me know how to purchase from you!!! I just love your approach and the way your interact with the people who appreciate you! Thank you Kindly! JIMI
My goodness - I can't believe this message is a year old - I never saw it! I'm so sorry. I have no idea why I never got notification. Thank you foor your very, very kind comments. I'm honored. I do actually have more instruction. I have several onlin classes on UDemy and some on SkillShare. Let me give you the links. If you see this before October you can use the Coupon code SEPTTH-cam for a discount. I hope this helps! www.udemy.com/user/jill-poyerd/
Carlsons theory was devised and relied heavily on Ansel Adams zone system.A study of the zone system and Adams work will prove invaluable to the landscape artist.
At 1 minute i am lisening to you. I started painting after my expirience in the Coast Guard during the vietnam war. So i so much lack the wisdom that now i know i need.i will subscribe.. please ...thank you veryy much.
You are so right about the atmosphere and partials if you live or paint in a dry dusty area and it's constantly hot with winds blowing through the dust gets stirred up and rises in the warm air giving you that haze. So if it where to rain this dust will be knocked out or the air making the objects more vivid if you look at carlsons theory alongside the science of the angle of the white light from the sun striking an object will reflect the avaliable energy of light giving it its colour this will also depend on the angle the object I.e. If a tree or afoul post I'd leaning at an angle it will,change the value of the g.
Exactly, Michael.The angle of the sun AND the angle of the object being struck both influence the way we perceive objects...all related to the light rays. I'm actually going into that a little more in a related online course I'm creating. Thanks for the input.
Sure, Karl, but can you give me the timestamp where I have it? I didn't think it was in this video, but I could certainly be wrong. He did several versions, so I want to make sure I have the right one.
@@JillPoyerdFineArt Thank you for the reply. You are correct it is not in this video. I'll share the wiki link for the Icebergs. Once again thank you :)
that's amazing video i love it , very very useful not for painters but also for photographers .. may i know what is the music name at the end of video ? at 19:24
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Moeen. I suppose it is applicable for photographers as well, you're right! Regarding the music at the end, the song is called "In the City of Angels" by Olive Musique.
It's a teeny weeny bit ironic to talk of techniques **unique** to landscape **painting** while showing landscape **photographs**, ain't it? ;) Otherwise nice summary. Looking forward to using your tips in my photos... ;)
lol - I see what you're saying. In my mind, I was thinking of the photographs as potential reference photos. Also, I thought it would be better to demonstrate the breakdown of planes in a real image so viewers could apply it to real life scenes. Most of it uses painting examples, though.
Jill, I am so glad that TH-cam displayed your video. And I am more pleased that I clicked on it and invested just under 23 minutes into the viewing. This is such a pleasing, informative, and professional video on the subject of composition. You have done a fantastic job. As one of the comments states, you have a very pleasing voice and can share information in a very pleasing method. This is great information. I will share this site with those in the Lachri Fine Art community in the Google plus world. Each artist there can gain by viewing what you have done. Thanks again for this great work.
Thank you so much, Michael! And I'm so glad you enjoyed the information. Not only was it a joy to produce, but I love the challenge of trying to present information that could be rather dry in an enjoyable manner. Learning about art should be as beautiful as the art itself.
Subscribed after one minute. I paint landscapes only - No creatures, no structures; just landscapes. Although I am well versed on most of the things you mentioned, it never hurts to learn it again. I am 71 years old and will never be too old to learn. Thank you for a great treatise on landscapes.
You're very welcome, Quazie. I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and you are certainly never too old to learn, that's for sure. It's one of the things that keeps life interesting.
Wow, so well done. As an educator, I am floored by the content, presentation, approach and review. Can't wait to watch more videos! Thanks for all the references too.
Thanks for making Carlson's landscape painting theories so much more "palette-able"! :D As you no doubt know, he and also Edgar Payne have lovely/valuable/essential books on composition and are highly recommend for the student, but be prepared for some difficult reading! They were artists not writers, so when a video like yours cuts through all that verbiage and gets to the heart of the most important aspects of landscape painting, it's very helpful; and a God send really! How many times have we seen a beautiful painting, full of details and even good light effects, but fatally flawed by a poor compositional design. Many of us have those, stored away in our studio,.... where no one can see them! LOL. Good video, Jill, thanks!!
True, Ron. Their writing does take a few cups of coffee from my experience - lol. I really appreciate your comment. It really is one of my goals - to cut through fluff and complexity in order to present the information in an easy to understand form.
Awesome but I think u missed the most important thing. Most artists don't know this but your background is as important as your foreground. The eye will always wander beyond the focal point. If you don't nail your sky or background your painting will always fail. Every other "rule" here is just opinion.
Gee, I didn't mean to imply that the background isn't important. It certainly is. It can set the mood and supports the focus. But the focal point and helping the viewer to know where to look (in my opinion) is more critical. Still, we all have our perspectives. Thanks for mentioning it.
Jill, I am a landscape photographer and enjoyed your video since you touch on many of the common elements of Landscape Photography Composition. Thanks for presenting the subject in a systematic and organized manner, no to mention in a soothing pleasing voice.
Do great artist need to study composition? Or is it inherently within them? When I've looked at cave paintings ( online ) they appear to be ( some at least ) composed. It puzzles me that before the rules, even perhaps before language some people " have it ". The theory being that enabling the subconscious might have been the key. Was the primitive mind able to do that more easily?
Very interesting. It does seem that some people may take to composition more easily, but I would suggest that anyone can improve their skill no matter the natural talent. If primitive humans came to it more naturally is it because their lives were so much simpler? Hmm.
nice video but I never felt that these techniques in painting or drawing are half credible, of course none say they are exact science but it is not even half that.. the tringulation can be drawing to be large rectangular adding more element there, or my eye center on different part other than the painter supposed intention, this happen a lottttttttttttttttttttttttt.. the odd object could be 4 , not 3 if you add the other elements, I know what recomendation means.. not set rules, but even as such they dont work even 30% of the time.. very stretchable rules are not rules.. many exceptions make them gemic or hoax psudo knowledge, that are perpetuated by people who cherished them as knowledge of secrets.. I agree on most art teaching in general and in this channel which is great, but when it comes to compositon it seems people repeat what they have been taught in hope to convince themselves.... I did not even address realist who paints what he sees would paint what he sees not compose... maybe he takes and add if any... then critics would pull the tringulation if there is any... if not, then the golden ration 1.63... etc if not, the odd element, if that does not work the horizontal line... .. tell it becomes correct analysis.. would love to see your take in spirit of debate.... and to see if other think so or not.... and why. Thanks for you vidoes. have a nice day
Thanks for the helpful video. It was a welcome relief after having my time wasted by other videos that repeat only one simple point for 13 minutes. I would encourage a part 2, with even more depth & examples.
I loved this video!! It includes pretty much everything about composition I've seen in other videos and I learned a ton. Why does placing a large object in the center help the composition?
It's really just an optional composition design. When you place the focal element in the center, you're featuring it more like a portrait. The composition is all about that element. It should be able to carry the scene by having enough visual interest and the surrounding elements should act as a support. So, if I'm painting an amazing close up of a flower, for example. If I opt to center it in large form, I'm making the painting all about that flower and the intricacies within its form. If it's part of a set of flowers, then the painting becomes more of a story or a composition about the bouquet, rather than that specific flower (although you can still make that the focal point within the bouquet). Does that explain it better? This is true of any element or object, in my opinion.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Omprakash. Did you notice that I did a "Part 2" video? Kind of the next step. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/6__rKadRXe8/w-d-xo.html I do have plans for more and hope to release the one I'm currently working on in a few months.
Such an enthralling and informative video. Thanks for capturing such a vast array of subjects in less than 30 minutes and providing such deep insights. Glad I came across it. Thanks and best wishes
What a great choice for a topic! Thanks Dianne and Jill. This video has been an eye opening for me when it comes to landscaping. I mostly paint still life. I will definitely try a landscape considering your tips and reasoning within the composition, thank you so much! I truly appreciate it!
I watch this for photography purposes and I received a great deal of information thank you for sharing. I'll be watching the rest of videos for more hit and tips. Photography and painting are kinda the same art form but you have to be really gifted to use the brushes.
A great lesson! I am self-taught and tried to learn from books. None of them showed in such a simple and clear way what the composition is about. You explained everything wonderfully and thanks to that it will be easier for me to paint and read the masters' pictures :)) You have a great gift and thank you for sharing it. Greetings from Poland:))
Please gives examples of "bad compositions" but executed with excellent techniques. Only then this examples here will have some concrete meaning. I doubt this is possible - especially in landscape. If you executed your painting with supreme technique - any landscape compositions will work. But the the opposite doesn't work. Figurative-like compositions is just good direction for the beginners, not "the real thing".
Such great contents, Jill. Absolutely love your channel! Thanks for bringing us amazing information. Please keep making these. You are superb! Love from Canada ❤️
Very well done tutorial. Excellent examples and clear, concise explanation. Great tips for the beginner and also a good refresher for the practicing artist as well.
Really helpful! I am also an educator and have been searching for a video that explains some of the most important tenets of a good composition and you did a great job keeping the viewers attention, explaining the points simply and effectively, and bringing it all together in summary at the end. Thank you very much for this and I will be using this during my painting classes to effectively explain the key features of effective landscapes. Well done Jill!
True, a composition design can make or break the painting and the artist. Composition design is very married to the painters truth-talent. If he/she is not an excellent composition designer than he/she is a wanna'be artist. If he/she can not do concept/composition design than give up attempting to be an artist and go flip burgers; because you will never make it as a real selling artist. UNLESS, you just wanna make cutetsy hobby crafts; than go for it and good luck.
Carlson's idea may be more generalized if we consider think more abstractly. That is, ignore the fact that you are viewing a landscape, but rather focus on the source of light, the direction the light is going and the angle the light is striking the object. His ideas become more broadly applicable. Likewise, we must consider the reflectivity of the lit object, not just angle
Jill, yes ma'am So much to learn, I was a good bowler until I was shown how to bowl. I draw in charcoal will definitely put your teachings into play... Thank you
I assume you mean to edit my images when prepping the compositions? Yes, I do. There are probably similar and less expensive programs these days that can do the same kind of edits, but I've been using Photoshop for years and years - really love it!
Wow. You mentioned Carlson. Few landscape painters I know today are aware of Carlson. He opened my eyes about composition of landscapes. And most importantly VALUES. I don’t consider myself a landscape painter. But when you break it down to plains and values, it applies to figure and portraiture. It fact, to me Value is more important than color. Color Is relative to every artist. Values are absolute to every artist. Where were you when I was a young student?
I agree that it can apply to other subject matter, and I love how you put it so succinctly that color can be relative by values are absolute. So true! Literally, humans see color differently, even if only slightly different. Very interesting comments...
Jill what a delight this video was; visually stunning and audibly peaceful and soothing. Your communication and knowledge was greatly appreciated. Do you have any videos for sale. I use oils as my painting medium.
My apologies for the late response, Sandy. I never got notification of your comment. Thank you so much for your kind comments. I'm afraid I don't have my videos for sale, but I do offer online video instruction through UDemy.com. My 2-Part Brushstrokes class does apply to oil painters as well as watercolorists.
Alhamdulillah. Thanks God I found this YT Channel. Very usefull. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Jill. I whatch and watch your video and write everything down. I like to paint landscape and cityscape but it is new for me about composition. Now I understand there's many things to consider to make a painting works. Thank you.
It would be fantastic to heart tips from you for photographers, on how they could take and edit landscape pictures to look more like paintings. Simple dodge and burn rules etc. Thank you for your videos!
Hi Jill. This is a really beautiful production. I'm a fan of John Carlson's book. I have a request. I'm struggling with planning the colors of my paintings. Do you know of any great online resources for color compositional planning? Could you make a video on color?
Thank you so much, Ken. Regarding your question, I don't know of a specific video on that topic off-hand, although I know there are a lot of videos on color theory. The number of color theory videos is one of the reasons I haven't pursued creating one myself, but if I can think of how to approach it without "reinventing the wheel," I may eventually do it. It's a topic I would actually like to cover. If I do think of a specific resource I'll pass it on.
Being an artist that has not had the privilege of art school training, I was encouraged to see that I am already using these perspectives organically, without understanding them consciously. Thanks again for the education.
You're very welcome, Kim
This is one of my favorite art channels I've come across. Your presentation is very good. It's very soothing, I enjoy painting to your playlist. I only wish you had more videos. I really enjoy your take on different artists and their styles, I would love to see more of that or maybe even further focus on some of your favorites.
Thank you so much, Rob. I really appreciate that. I've actually thought about doing a small series on specific Masters, but it's in competition with so many other ideas. If only I could double my time.
Your approach is what's needed. Don't quit.
Thank you so much, Virginia
I know Nothing about painting but watched this video just because it was recommended...i was so surprised because i never notice these things while looking at the landscape pictures..I watched the video till the end! Very informative and you explained it really well that someone like me could understand it so nicely. 😀
I'm so glad it was helpful, smh
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Thank you so much, Michal. I'm honored.
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Thank you for this Jill. I do photography and of late during the lockdown, I have done some Landscape work but I am sick to death of landscape photographers talking about the rule of thirds, it makes for boring photographs. I loved your shot of the tree and it was interesting to know that Troth Richards came to Cornwall & Dorset in England.
I'm glad you enjoyed the material, iain. Yes, there's so much more to composition than simply the rue of thirds (which of course is good to know...)
I recommend the photography of Henri Cartier-Bresson, there's a DVD about his work called the Impassioned Eye. It struck me that he did deviate from the rule of thirds some of the time, and it always worked. WHY it worked... I can't really answer but maybe you or Jill can!
@@sursurrus I think you'll find it worked because there are many Tools of composition. The rule of thirds always seemed scruffy and was based on the golden spiral. Many of the photographic vloggers use it to death and they need to open their eyes more and look at great landscape artists. It is no wonder many photographers prefer B+W, then they don't have to worry about colour spoiling their shots as in a big blob of red in the wrong place. Here is a thought, wide-angle lenses they see more than we do, so now you start trying to fill the space in, useless foreground that doesn't really add anything to the composition in fact it detracts from the main subject. I shall have a look for that DVD. Cheers
Great video. This was very useful for setting up painting ideas I might have and where to place things aesthetically. Thank you! (made some google notes on it too so I can quickly get back to it).
Ms. Jill, I keep coming back to this wonderful lesson you are teaching here! Trying to be a painter becomes very complex when you become really serious... about getting it right. Painting objects and good compositions are two different things! I've tried for years, and with all the fun and enjoyment it gives; when you want to do it better and at another level: you are this first one to know where you stand!ly
I constantly search for information with strong tutorial quality, as well as information that can clearly be understood! You care about others really understanding and that is why you have so many admirers as well as perhaps good artist following you! Your explanations are soooo helpful. Do you happen to have ANY instructional materials out? Should your have a chance to respond, and I can imagine how busy you must be, and I respect your time,... please let me know how to purchase from you!!! I just love your approach and the way your interact with the people who appreciate you! Thank you Kindly! JIMI
My goodness - I can't believe this message is a year old - I never saw it! I'm so sorry. I have no idea why I never got notification. Thank you foor your very, very kind comments. I'm honored. I do actually have more instruction. I have several onlin classes on UDemy and some on SkillShare. Let me give you the links. If you see this before October you can use the Coupon code SEPTTH-cam for a discount. I hope this helps!
www.udemy.com/user/jill-poyerd/
Carlsons theory was devised and relied heavily on Ansel Adams zone system.A study of the zone system and Adams work will prove invaluable to the landscape artist.
At 1 minute i am lisening to you. I started painting after my expirience in the Coast Guard during the vietnam war. So i so much lack the wisdom that now i know i need.i will subscribe.. please ...thank you veryy much.
Composition, value. Yes tell us.
I'm so glad it's been helpful, David.
It's really interesting and helpful. I want to see new videos, there are incredible.
Thanks for your lessons.
Grettings from Spain.
Thank you, Enrique. I'm so glad you've enjoyed them!
Just a thought, central focal point is easier in painting , which can still balance a picture/painting, rather than photography
That may be true, especially because in painting we can move or adjust elements.
You are so right about the atmosphere and partials if you live or paint in a dry dusty area and it's constantly hot with winds blowing through the dust gets stirred up and rises in the warm air giving you that haze. So if it where to rain this dust will be knocked out or the air making the objects more vivid if you look at carlsons theory alongside the science of the angle of the white light from the sun striking an object will reflect the avaliable energy of light giving it its colour this will also depend on the angle the object I.e. If a tree or afoul post I'd leaning at an angle it will,change the value of the g.
Exactly, Michael.The angle of the sun AND the angle of the object being struck both influence the way we perceive objects...all related to the light rays. I'm actually going into that a little more in a related online course I'm creating. Thanks for the input.
Great tutorial. Thanks a lot.
You're very welcome
Thank-you for your amazing video. Very well explained. I was drawn to your video thanks to Dianne Mize, I thank her for this.
You're welcome, Giovanna, and very nice of Diane to refer you.
These tips are great, don't stop, come back and upload more interesting stuff.
Thank you so much, MindGem. Yes, there are many more planned once I finish up a project I"m working on. So glad you enjoyed it.
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Can you please talk about the Frederic Edwin Church iceberg, I just can't get over it. Love to hear your understanding of it.
Sure, Karl, but can you give me the timestamp where I have it? I didn't think it was in this video, but I could certainly be wrong. He did several versions, so I want to make sure I have the right one.
@@JillPoyerdFineArt Thank you for the reply. You are correct it is not in this video. I'll share the wiki link for the Icebergs. Once again thank you :)
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that's amazing video i love it , very very useful not for painters but also for photographers .. may i know what is the music name at the end of video ? at 19:24
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Moeen. I suppose it is applicable for photographers as well, you're right! Regarding the music at the end, the song is called "In the City of Angels" by Olive Musique.
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It's a teeny weeny bit ironic to talk of techniques **unique** to landscape **painting** while showing landscape **photographs**, ain't it? ;)
Otherwise nice summary. Looking forward to using your tips in my photos... ;)
lol - I see what you're saying. In my mind, I was thinking of the photographs as potential reference photos. Also, I thought it would be better to demonstrate the breakdown of planes in a real image so viewers could apply it to real life scenes. Most of it uses painting examples, though.
Jill, I am so glad that TH-cam displayed your video. And I am more pleased that I clicked on it and invested just under 23 minutes into the viewing. This is such a pleasing, informative, and professional video on the subject of composition. You have done a fantastic job. As one of the comments states, you have a very pleasing voice and can share information in a very pleasing method. This is great information. I will share this site with those in the Lachri Fine Art community in the Google plus world. Each artist there can gain by viewing what you have done. Thanks again for this great work.
Thank you so much, Michael! And I'm so glad you enjoyed the information. Not only was it a joy to produce, but I love the challenge of trying to present information that could be rather dry in an enjoyable manner. Learning about art should be as beautiful as the art itself.
Jill, my plan is to view all of these videos that you have produced. It will take time, but I will gain doing it. Thanks again.
You have a great voice. You should do audio books.
Thank you, Erik
Erik Westerveld No entiendo lo que dice la señorita del video, pero tambien iba a comentar lo mismo sobre su voz.
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Subscribed after one minute. I paint landscapes only - No creatures, no structures; just landscapes.
Although I am well versed on most of the things you mentioned, it never hurts to learn it again. I am 71 years old and will never be too old to learn. Thank you for a great treatise on landscapes.
You're very welcome, Quazie. I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and you are certainly never too old to learn, that's for sure. It's one of the things that keeps life interesting.
Wow, so well done. As an educator, I am floored by the content, presentation, approach and review. Can't wait to watch more videos! Thanks for all the references too.
Thank you so much, Toby! Very appreciated
Thanks for making Carlson's landscape painting theories so much more "palette-able"! :D As you no doubt know, he and also Edgar Payne have lovely/valuable/essential books on composition and are highly recommend for the student, but be prepared for some difficult reading! They were artists not writers, so when a video like yours cuts through all that verbiage and gets to the heart of the most important aspects of landscape painting, it's very helpful; and a God send really! How many times have we seen a beautiful painting, full of details and even good light effects, but fatally flawed by a poor compositional design. Many of us have those, stored away in our studio,.... where no one can see them! LOL. Good video, Jill, thanks!!
True, Ron. Their writing does take a few cups of coffee from my experience - lol. I really appreciate your comment. It really is one of my goals - to cut through fluff and complexity in order to present the information in an easy to understand form.
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Awesome but I think u missed the most important thing. Most artists don't know this but your background is as important as your foreground. The eye will always wander beyond the focal point. If you don't nail your sky or background your painting will always fail. Every other "rule" here is just opinion.
Gee, I didn't mean to imply that the background isn't important. It certainly is. It can set the mood and supports the focus. But the focal point and helping the viewer to know where to look (in my opinion) is more critical. Still, we all have our perspectives. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Jill, I am a landscape photographer and enjoyed your video since you touch on many of the common elements of Landscape Photography Composition. Thanks for presenting the subject in a systematic and organized manner, no to mention in a soothing pleasing voice.
I glad you enjoyed it, Far Ma. It's great to see that photographers are benefitting from it as well - very rewarding.
Thank you a lot for such valuable information!
Wow I learned so much, this was so pleasing and calming to watch! I can’t wait to watch more of your videos
Thank you, Carol. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
That covered a few details to practice to better appreciate :-)
Composition is an oft neglected topic in art. It second to drawing itself.
Do great artist need to study composition? Or is it inherently within them? When I've looked at cave paintings ( online ) they appear to be ( some at least ) composed. It puzzles me that before the rules, even perhaps before language some people
" have it ". The theory being that enabling the subconscious might have been the key. Was the primitive mind able to do that more easily?
Very interesting. It does seem that some people may take to composition more easily, but I would suggest that anyone can improve their skill no matter the natural talent. If primitive humans came to it more naturally is it because their lives were so much simpler? Hmm.
Your instructional videos are an absolute delight. Ty very much as it’s clear you’ve put a good deal of effort into them.
Your voice is so soothing.
nice video but I never felt that these techniques in painting or drawing are half credible, of course none say they are exact science but it is not even half that.. the tringulation can be drawing to be large rectangular adding more element there, or my eye center on different part other than the painter supposed intention, this happen a lottttttttttttttttttttttttt.. the odd object could be 4 , not 3 if you add the other elements, I know what recomendation means.. not set rules, but even as such they dont work even 30% of the time.. very stretchable rules are not rules.. many exceptions make them gemic or hoax psudo knowledge, that are perpetuated by people who cherished them as knowledge of secrets.. I agree on most art teaching in general and in this channel which is great, but when it comes to compositon it seems people repeat what they have been taught in hope to convince themselves.... I did not even address realist who paints what he sees would paint what he sees not compose... maybe he takes and add if any... then critics would pull the tringulation if there is any... if not, then the golden ration 1.63... etc if not, the odd element, if that does not work the horizontal line... .. tell it becomes correct analysis.. would love to see your take in spirit of debate.... and to see if other think so or not.... and why. Thanks for you vidoes. have a nice day
I am a designer/photographer, best class/video ever in composition. Thank you for posting.
Thank you so much, Dania! That's a high compliment...
Thanks for the helpful video. It was a welcome relief after having my time wasted by other videos that repeat only one simple point for 13 minutes. I would encourage a part 2, with even more depth & examples.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Cc
I loved this video!! It includes pretty much everything about composition I've seen in other videos and I learned a ton.
Why does placing a large object in the center help the composition?
It's really just an optional composition design. When you place the focal element in the center, you're featuring it more like a portrait. The composition is all about that element. It should be able to carry the scene by having enough visual interest and the surrounding elements should act as a support. So, if I'm painting an amazing close up of a flower, for example. If I opt to center it in large form, I'm making the painting all about that flower and the intricacies within its form. If it's part of a set of flowers, then the painting becomes more of a story or a composition about the bouquet, rather than that specific flower (although you can still make that the focal point within the bouquet). Does that explain it better? This is true of any element or object, in my opinion.
Great tremendously informative thank you
Love this very informative video! Very useful even for digital artists
Thank you!
so nice work.
Thanks for information very useful
Very informative! Thanks!
I just can't believe how much knowledge I can get from one video of yours, thank you a lot for sharing this video with us
You're very welcome, Silent Voice
Thank you ma'am for this wonderful video.
It made me learn alot.
please do more video of this kind.
It was really very informative and simple ☺️☺️☺️
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Omprakash. Did you notice that I did a "Part 2" video? Kind of the next step. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/6__rKadRXe8/w-d-xo.html I do have plans for more and hope to release the one I'm currently working on in a few months.
Such an enthralling and informative video. Thanks for capturing such a vast array of subjects in less than 30 minutes and providing such deep insights. Glad I came across it. Thanks and best wishes
Very glad you enjoyed it!
amazing video, thank you very much!
Glad you liked it!
Very helpful documentary
Valuable information! Thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it, Ernst
Please keep posting these exceptionally informative videos.
Thank you, Frances - Many more planned, it just takes a while to produce.
What a great choice for a topic! Thanks Dianne and Jill. This video has been an eye opening for me when it comes to landscaping. I mostly paint still life. I will definitely try a landscape considering your tips and reasoning within the composition, thank you so much! I truly appreciate it!
I'm so glad it was helpful, Crisalinda. And how nice that it has inspired you to try your hand at landscape!
I enjoyed this very much.
I watch this for photography purposes and I received a great deal of information thank you for sharing. I'll be watching the rest of videos for more hit and tips. Photography and painting are kinda the same art form but you have to be really gifted to use the brushes.
They do have many commonalities, I agree. Both certainly rely on the skilled placement of the visual elements.
Amasing mucho Gracias.
Jill ,keep up the excellent work, very informative.do more.
Thank you, Maxime. Working on one as I write this...
A wonderful video that makes all the elements apprehensible. Love your choices of art for examples. Very helpful and supportive. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it, Christine - you're very welcome
Informative, not just for painters but for photographers also. Absolutely love it. Thank you
Also designs
Fantastic content!
Thank you, Antonio!
A great lesson! I am self-taught and tried to learn from books. None of them showed in such a simple and clear way what the composition is about. You explained everything wonderfully and thanks to that it will be easier for me to paint and read the masters' pictures :)) You have a great gift and thank you for sharing it. Greetings from Poland:))
Thank you so much for that feedback and kind comment, chaconne04. It's very rewarding to hear how you benefitted from the video.
I learned a lot from photography books.
This is just the video I needed. I am a becoming a big fan of your work. Thank you so much
Excelente exposición de criterios de composición, ilustrada con ejemplos muy claros.
Alhamdulillah. very useful video. thanks for uploading.
Awesome video. I really like the part of exercise. Thank you very much
Please gives examples of "bad compositions" but executed with excellent techniques. Only then this examples here will have some concrete meaning. I doubt this is possible - especially in landscape. If you executed your painting with supreme technique - any landscape compositions will work. But the the opposite doesn't work. Figurative-like compositions is just good direction for the beginners, not "the real thing".
Such great contents, Jill. Absolutely love your channel! Thanks for bringing us amazing information. Please keep making these. You are superb! Love from Canada ❤️
Thanks so much, Syeda. I'm so glad you've been enjoying my videos!
Most enjoyable video.
I just saw the painting from Aelbert Cuyp of my hometown Dordrecht. Got me a little proud haha. Great video, thanks!
And you should be proud! A lot of great talent from that beautiful town...
this was really helpful!
So pleased to see this video. I just stumbled on a treasure.
Very well done tutorial. Excellent examples and clear, concise explanation. Great tips for the beginner and also a good refresher for the practicing artist as well.
Really helpful! I am also an educator and have been searching for a video that explains some of the most important tenets of a good composition and you did a great job keeping the viewers attention, explaining the points simply and effectively, and bringing it all together in summary at the end. Thank you very much for this and I will be using this during my painting classes to effectively explain the key features of effective landscapes. Well done Jill!
Thank you, Kathleen. Means a lot coming from a fellow instructor!
True, a composition design can make or break the painting and the artist. Composition design is very married to the painters truth-talent. If he/she is not an excellent composition designer than he/she is a wanna'be artist. If he/she can not do concept/composition design than give up attempting to be an artist and go flip burgers; because you will never make it as a real selling artist. UNLESS, you just wanna make cutetsy hobby crafts; than go for it and good luck.
Carlson's idea may be more generalized if we consider think more abstractly.
That is, ignore the fact that you are viewing a landscape, but rather focus on the source of light, the direction the light is going and the angle the light is striking the object.
His ideas become more broadly applicable.
Likewise, we must consider the reflectivity of the lit object, not just angle
Jill, yes ma'am So much to learn, I was a good bowler until I was shown how to bowl. I draw in charcoal will definitely put your teachings into play... Thank you
Thank you so much!
very good,
greetings
Armin
Thank you, Armin
Thank you that was great. Very helpful.
The video itselt is a great work of art👍
Thank you!
Very well done. Did you use Photoshop??
I assume you mean to edit my images when prepping the compositions? Yes, I do. There are probably similar and less expensive programs these days that can do the same kind of edits, but I've been using Photoshop for years and years - really love it!
Thank you for your response and teaching. Well done. Stay blest
Wow. You mentioned Carlson. Few landscape painters I know today are aware of Carlson. He opened my eyes about composition of landscapes. And most importantly VALUES. I don’t consider myself a landscape painter. But when you break it down to plains and values, it applies to figure and portraiture. It fact, to me Value is more important than color. Color Is relative to every artist. Values are absolute to every artist. Where were you when I was a young student?
I agree that it can apply to other subject matter, and I love how you put it so succinctly that color can be relative by values are absolute. So true! Literally, humans see color differently, even if only slightly different. Very interesting comments...
Very inspiring. Thanks very much, educational and uplifting
Thank you Jill... for everything... you are so awesome!
Thank you so much, Gary
Jill what a delight this video was; visually stunning and audibly peaceful and soothing. Your communication and knowledge was greatly appreciated. Do you have any videos for sale. I use oils as my painting medium.
My apologies for the late response, Sandy. I never got notification of your comment. Thank you so much for your kind comments. I'm afraid I don't have my videos for sale, but I do offer online video instruction through UDemy.com. My 2-Part Brushstrokes class does apply to oil painters as well as watercolorists.
exceptional, thank you
You're very welcome, SwissPL
Ms. Jill, I thank you so kindly! This is very helpful, no matter how good or otherwise you paint! i will continue to follow your input! Thanks again!
You're very welcome, Jimmie
Alhamdulillah. Thanks God I found this YT Channel. Very usefull. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Jill. I whatch and watch your video and write everything down. I like to paint landscape and cityscape but it is new for me about composition. Now I understand there's many things to consider to make a painting works. Thank you.
I'm so glad you found my channel and have enjoyed it, Henny! Welcome!
This is serious teaching thanks a lot for your time, my respect
Thanks for this, very helpful. Your voice tone is very nice, FYI it's more like "COWP" not "COYP" for Albert Cuyp :)
The narration is good, the content is interesting and the voice is angel material. Thanks for sharing this.
That is so very kind of you, Norbert
Awesome..🙏🏆🎨
It would be fantastic to heart tips from you for photographers, on how they could take and edit landscape pictures to look more like paintings. Simple dodge and burn rules etc. Thank you for your videos!
You know, I don't feel quite expert enough in photography to truly do so. But thank you for the compliment.
Hi Jill. This is a really beautiful production. I'm a fan of John Carlson's book.
I have a request. I'm struggling with planning the colors of my paintings. Do you know of any great online resources for color compositional planning? Could you make a video on color?
Thank you so much, Ken. Regarding your question, I don't know of a specific video on that topic off-hand, although I know there are a lot of videos on color theory. The number of color theory videos is one of the reasons I haven't pursued creating one myself, but if I can think of how to approach it without "reinventing the wheel," I may eventually do it. It's a topic I would actually like to cover. If I do think of a specific resource I'll pass it on.