I find it weird that the nationalistic Asian community dunks on us in Global but yet they hop gacha to gacha spending the most in the mobile market in Asian countries. Explain that? Make it make sense.
@@bigman415 ngl though, it's really funny seeing people defend multimillion dolar companies. Like, come on guys, you can play more than one gacha, the dailies take like two minutes to do LOL.
Yeah we're upset because YOU WON'T OIL UP 😢 Edit: The original title of this video was "People are upset" Edit 2: OIL UP FOR THE VILLAGERS POKKE!!! SHOW US THAT YOU ARE HIM 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Honestly at the beginning all this drama was fun for a while but after constantly doing this, the reaction content is just becoming rage bait and engagement farming. I was one of your oldest viewers, started watching when you were making actual content videos giving us perspective about which character was worth our pulls in HSR. (especially the chinese viewpoint) You still do those but you Branched out too much into drama/react content. It maybe good for your channel but overall quality has dropped off a bit. Repeating the same phrase again and again is funny at the beginning (Insane, Nuclear, F2pBTW etc) but its just annoying now. Not to mention the speed at which you speak -It was ok before but you just yap randomly at times which is really unintelligible. I am still your supporter but i will be actively avoiding these type of videos now on. You might not even read this but if you do, i am just saying this as a wellwisher who watched your channel grow and enjoyed your content before.
I mean, he basically just went to this direction of content cause he hangs out with tectone lmao. As is the fact that one shape's themself based on their environment, pokke being surrounded by the drama and Tectone in particular made his content shift into this direction. Now tbf, his vids with his mods were enjoyable, cause its literally just him hanging out with people he knows on discord and watching them play.
@@jeological5394tectone being the top gacha content creator has this negative effect where now all the upcoming content creators model themselves after him. Just lazy drama farming and react content. Not a lot of actually original content. Tectone is very successful with this but I don't care for that type of content, but too many CCs now just copy his formula.
@@Sable813 yeah pretty much. the thing is the guy is literally just a grumpy guy, who can actually make being a 29yr old actually look like a 50yr old. And its cause of this fact that he can continue farming views from the content he makes regardless of whether the viewers see him in a positive/negative light. The problem arises when other CCs start to emulate that type of content and actually can't handle the results of making such content.
Here's another point to think about, this ZZZ vs WuWa drama is 100% manufactured and completely made up by the community themselves, there was not a single evidence that shows the official ZZZ nor WuWa Devs plan to have this war with each other. Therefore I would advise taking this community drama with an inch of salt as it's completely made up purely for farming hate and rage bait
These people don't understand that casuals carry gacha games. Reason why HSR, Genshin and ZZZ makes more money than WuWa is cause the playerbase Hoyoverse appeals to the most are just more likely to spend and there are more of them. If casuals can't even do abyss in genshin, why would they bother playing and paying in WuWa
Which is half true. The main reason why HoYo is successful is because of branding and marketing. It’s the same exact reason why Apple is successful even though their competitors make better products.
@@TacticalDimples Well its a combination of things. A) much more casual base, B) dedicated base that plays more of their games so they spend more on Hoyo stuff, C) way more marketting, D) more predatory gacha. But yeah good comparison with Apple. They sell a lot cuz of mindshare as well.
srsly when i started HSR - my first gacha - 1.5 years ago i already got the feeling right away that at least 50% of the gacha community is mentally unstable. now 1.5 years later i know for sure that actually 80% of the gacha community has severe mental issues without any chance of fixing them
Everyone have mental illness. Go look at other media like novel, tv shows, etc, hell even the community, society, government, west, middle east, Africa, Asia, the whole world. No one is mentally stable.
Honest opinion, I am one of the people WuWa lost due to bad mobile optimization. For context, I love WuWa and Genshin, and I had quit both. Firstly, I came to realize that while both games are kinda of like open world rpg, they're not like Skyrim (if you guys get what I mean) where everytime you explore an area, you get cool loot and stuff. In Genshin and WuWa, you gotta explore the mao entirely to get pulls, once you have pulls you gotta be lucky if you wanna get what you want. I came to realize I'm not a big fan of that because I feel like my effort is not being repayed equally, but this one is a personal gripe. The real issue is the performance issues. I have this fixation of wanting to be able to play genshin and wuwa with maximum quality. But I can't, and yes it's unreasonable given that my phone is a bit old. So I of course was willing to play on the lowest settings. Genshin was still laggy and clunky even at the lowest settings (do keep in mind I was using a different phone then that the one I have now xD) And unfortunately WuWa was the same, it was having crazy frame rate drops, it was laggy overall. It became frustrating to play. And so, despite how much I love these games, I had to quit them because they were stressing me tf out. I'm glad I still have HSR though xd
So much popcorn can be eaten in this WuWa ZZZ war. Hot take, an easier game is more accessible and more people will play, just look at Genshin. Also hot take, playing a harder game does not make you and everything you stand for superior.
Good take. Casual gremlins who can spend minimally while pulling + playing favorite chars are what carries games. Appeal + accessibility are probably the biggest factors of success here. Difficulty and skill are a niche in the gatcha space.
Why would Love and Deepspace cater to the "gays" when the devs' blatant homophobia (banning yaoi fanarts etc) was prevalent in the game's runtime and it was even hated by the lgbtq community. That honestly undermines the fact women can in fact spend money on games too lol
Srsly, they weren't as loud back when it was still obey me, mystic messenger or even tears of themis days. Lol. Ccs look like they're underestimating the power of women's wallets lol.
Best way to enjoy a game is to ignore the commnunity lol. You'll just lose more braincells if you keep interacting with this kind of people. Dont give a fuck about others opinion, just play and enjoy the game you want and you'll find peace.
🤔 As a WuWa fan who plays on mobile, WuWa's spot below ZZZ is deserved. 😅 WuWa is my fave, ⚠️ but there's no controller support so the experience sucks. ZZZ is easier to play on mobile cuz tapping my screen randomly is enough to win and progress. Most players play on PC so it's doing far better than people are assuming. But this is MOBILE revenue. Playing WuWa without a controller is not efficient. It's an annoying experience. They NEED to add controller support. I'm honestly surprised it did as well as it did in mobile revenue when the mobile experience has been hovering between being mid to sub-par with no controller support.
They've teased a Playstation 5 build of the game I have no Idea when it's coming out but that should allow more people to play it since it runs well The controller support stuff though may come alongside Ps5 release, Hopefully they fix their servers before then because latency issues alongside controller latency is suffering
I am surprised that people cannot understand that every game goes through a honeymoon phase after it's initial launch. ZZZ was going to inevitably be the top grossing game especially because it has Hoyo's backing and a relatively smooth launch.
I think it’s a bit funny to see people talking about f*cking gacha games as if they talking about the stock market. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter at all how much money the companies make… the only thing we as the consumers should care about is whether the game updates we get are lit or not. I want people to talk about characters, quests, cutscenes and aboobas and not about Wolf of Wall Street sh*t.
Those two things are directly connected. Hence why so many games are following the Hoyo model. They all had booba, but development is following the money.
Time. For example I myself barley have enough time for genshin wuwa and hsr (and some other games) Having to chose what game you play everyday is normal Gacha gamers just want to shit on something they don't play so they don't feel bad about not playing it.
@@iCHRIS-xThen just drop ZZZ i guess? I personally can't take more than one gacha game which is ZZZ for me and if you are having more fun with wuwa it's absolutely fine to drop ZZZ and get more free time for yourself
Man wuwa community has gotten so out of hand. It's just insane to me how they're treating the game like it's the second coming of Jesus, that it's perfect and there's no wrong thing in it, and that we should support and like it because it's the savior of the gaming community. It's just so interesting how the mentality of the wuwa community is to pride themselves that it is the absolute and you should like the game and hate other games. It's just so insane. How did we even get to this point? It's so crazy man
Huh ? Really ? Not like theyve been complaining abt Echoes tuners and exp, not like they complain abt bad mobile optimization and no controller support, not like they have been giving criticism right ? Aint no way right ? All praise right ? Not like the things you see is not what the majority do right ? Not like ZZZ has been getting all hate right ? No one praised it right ? No one is saying "zzz is better than ww" right ? Not like what you see is what majority do also right ? Its not like these discord between communities are gone the moment you pay no attention to them right ? Man i sure cant play both games and criticize them both and also not pick a definitive size and can compare which properties they do better. Man i sure cant leave a comment talking smack about one community, while completely disregarding the other community and only pay attention to the side that i want to talk badly to due to the reaction ive only seen online, and not due to the main fact that my personal enjoyment of video games boils down to my affinity with drama related to said communities. I sure hope that there are no people with sound mind who can play whatever games they like and accept and criticize the flaws that they have. That would be awful.
Kuro Games makes less money than it could for several reasons 1: more advantageous gacha for players you only need 4 copies for a character instead of 6 there you still have 2 possibilities to lose 50/50 and go to hard pity = more money 2: does not have the 50/50 or 70/30 nonsense for weapons again it loses money where other games milk the players until they pass out 3 Banners will run for a bit more than three weeks 20+ days 4:a more advantageous system to obtain artifacts with or without stamina where in other games you are forced to use stamina and normally you use money to recharge your stamina ..................... hoyoverse knows how to milk players
Idk why they would care about how much money they make. I think they have more than enough to pay for the servers. Feel free to call me naive on that take. I truly care for quality than revenue.
@@reaperfall6630 being timegated doesnt make it worse. Have fun having to spend hours in the open world and not getting a single upgrade. Thank god it is timegated in hoyo games.
Sounds right to the internet....I mean it's how some people make a living (Proof of this is check out "anti w"ke youtubers....along with "alpha male" podcasts)
gachasmack saying the ZZZ spenders were just hoyo spenders that didn't spend in genshin/hsr is painfully untrue and it's going to reveal itself in time. ZZZ brought in many, MANY people who've never been in hoyosphere before
@@loufih that's smart, nothing beat furries in term of spending money lol. I mean there's a reason why artist that do commission for furries is making banks even though they despise furries themself 😂
correct me if i am wrong but i think its not official info from these companies, that don't just share how much does every game make, these are just speculations and they can be MUCH different in reality, we really cant know for sure what numbers that these games generate.
Tribalism/mental illness. Some people genuinely think wuwa should be less generous so they can get more revenue. Since people tend to invest lots of money or time or both into these games they need there game to be up top or the best or they feel bad. Lot of people have insane time sunk/money sunk fallacy on these hyper predatory games.
@@pukajamas2479 Bro in wuwa u can spent 300 euros to get an r5 weapon in zzz or genshin you will get one copy max 2 if you lucky. Gacha gamers really thing more money = more revenue = better game.
PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, edsterdwe, sdsdsaasdsadasdasd, Indet Jungfdare all the same accounts btw. 4 comments shitting on mr pokke all accounts made in 2024. Edit" as of now i spotted 9 different accounts most of them made in june 2024
one thing I thought that could also make Wuwa have less revenue is, they basically are more F2P than ZZZ and others. Weapon are guarantee means you absolutely will spend less on the weapon banner, and if you are RC6R5 you only need to roll for RC4 and R5 then you can exchange the last 2 RC in the shop, which makes the games really don't need that much spending
One of my favorite copes from Kuro bots is that the reason wuwa is low is because the game is “hard”. Believe it or not, There are many people who believe hoyo games are hard, when the Ruan mei bug quest came out, there were so many post on Twitter/tiktok about how hard the bug was to beat. My gf only plays gatcha games hsr,genshin, nikke and she sucks at them but she still enjoys them and whales on the game. If the game is good, it doesn’t matter how hard or challenging the game is, people will play/spend money on it.
okay, I don't buy into ww is omega hard either but comparing having to learn enemy moveset in any action game to struggling in hsr caused by your dogshit build is stupid
U want to sit and tell me left click simulator known as zzz, press 4 ults at the same time known as genshin and autoplay known as hsr is harder than wuwa? Brother what
@@xhyz54 when did I say any of those games are hard??? I’m saying there’s many people who think hoyoverse games are hard but yet still play them, so wuwa players saying the reason no one plays their game cus it’s “hard” it’s just coping. If the game is good people will play, simple
@@wbbb1256 game is good either way lol, the only people hating on wuwa are genshin players disguising themselves as "zzz players" when they are clearly hating it for no reason
Yeah nah I can't be bothered with getting involved with this fandom war. Just play the games and enjoy them for what they are, you don't need other's opinions to validate your enjoyment of either. At this point I'd happily take a degen community over a toxic one. It's far friendlier UWOOGHH-ing with the Nikke, AL, SCZ, or BD2 community, or 😭😭😭💢💢💢 with the BA one.
Why can't everyone just let everyone enjoy what they want, I don't play zzz but it's good that people like it. So what if it earns more money? Does it affect anything? Why do people need to get upset with this?
If the ZZZ community didn't have to endure an entire month of non stop hate mostly from a specific game's community then we wouldn't be running our mouths now.
Not Kuroshills thinking their game had a chance to beat any of Hoyo games revenue and Hoyoshills thinking a game with millions of dollars revenue is flopping. Y'all gacha gamers are becoming more like kpop fandoms, fighting over charts and numbers 😂
Exactly and at the end of the day does it matter? Idc if wuwa aint beating hoyo i just want kuro to produce a peak game💀. And i thought we all established that more popular/more money ≠ better quality (and i dont get how ppl are surprised that zzz got 96mil)
Hoyos Fanbase is notorious for just being extreme outside of the gaming community who are relatively chill The mentally ill who take it to social media showcase why they're so disliked lmao
Hoyo shills spreading hate on wuwa, Kuro shills spreading hate on zzz, now hoyo shills are spreading hate on wuwa because zzz came top 😂. What a bunch of people they are hahaha. If only they could just play the game and enjoy, but nah, i bet whenever they see a video they are like "I need to make sure that I spread hate on Internet " type of mindset subconsciously.😂
Wuwa is a better game, but ZZZ has better lore, character backround, general world building(it being a smaller world helps that), and honestly phenomenal npcs, world just feels more lively and interesting despite being 1/10000 the size. There's also just not enough side quests or reasons to wander around in Wuwa, sure the world has prettier places but once you see those places there's nothing else but farming mats and echoes really.
@@FelipeSilva-jm8yg Gameplay makes a game, everything else is extra. I don't consider walking simulators, or visual novels as games. The game elements of ZZZ is absolutely inferior to Wuwa.
This whole sensory tower situation is just so damn funny. People have already said time and time again that data on sensory tower has always been a rough estimate, yet the gacha community still act like this is their bible and wage their holy wars against each other
Im not going to lie the western cc took a big L. Instead of just saying the game is not for me they go on a constant rant about zzz. Literally living rent free in their heads. Also the fighting over which gacha game is better is insane. I understand why they call it gacha pvp. Just play the game you like and shut up.
Drop Wuwa after 1.1 the next update take too long, Ui suck, music kinda mid, bad performance( my pc can run GOW,RDR2 at medium setting with 50-60fps, yet still lagging at low setting on Wuwa) maybe comeback if thing getting better.
thats kinda interesting, my pc cant even run rdr2 at that fps but i get 100fps (fps unlock) on wuwa at the highest settings. quite curious abt your pc specs
Its in unreal engine man, sadly it sucks. my personal laptop , not too expensive, also suffers same issue, the lag is quite insane, even if i plug a charger, it can be noticed. sadly the game is just too heavy for pc, laptops. music is mid, i agree, ui sucks, agree. i can handle advanced settings only on charger though haha.
The hate Dokkan been getting in these revenue videos for no reason because it did better than WuWa 😂 (Ui goku dropping in a few days so it might be another rough month too)
Reminds me of Apple vs Samsung thing back then. Apple consumers are in their own ecosystem, clapping like mindless seals every 5 seconds while samsung consumers often boast how their product have more features than the other product. That said, revenue isn't exactly the best basis. Old AC games are better but the new ones have more sales. There are a lot of shit movies that earned millions. WuWa community needs to chill like PGR community. On the other hand, I wouldn't tell the Genshin community to do the same, I gave up a long time ago.
@@kaka09876543210 If you don't dig deeper into their shithole, you won't be bothered by genshin comm. Wuwa comm on the other hand have this unbearable superiority complex on every comment and thread.
Hoyo zzz community continues to make me with their double standards and hyppocrisy. Wuwa lives rent free in their minds. Now they got exposed and playing the victkm card.
I knew this was gonna happen. Why? Because WuWa glazers and Hoyo haters spent the better half of the year stating how hoyo is doomed, how WuWa will beat the gacha market and revolutionize it, and all this other copium. Now that their game is here and its kinda shit in some areas, copies some of the worst aspects of Genshin and doesnt even tell a good story, theyre faced with the facts and rather than accept WuWu as just another gacha game, they’re gonna double down on being hurt by Hoyo and start a shitstorm online over it. Its giving HexJuice energy.
This is why I can't take hoyobots seriously. They actively hate on wuwa since launch due to insecurity and then bark this nonsense. Wuwa is better than zzz. Cope and seethe hoyo clown
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wuwa camera is dogshit and the game doesnt deserve my money until they fix it. in the mean time ill happily give my money to zzz for making a game that is fun to play.
Hoyo is a billion dollar company at this point even. I dont really get why people are so dedicated to them. Esp since they have not only hit well (HI3 part 1, HSR) but also missed hard (Genshin, HI3 1.5-2) and being split (ZZZ, god-tier animation, actual mid/generic chara designs, tedious gameplay)
@@Tiasung if you call genshin a miss, then you're clearly living out of this world man. It's thank to that game that wuwa was created, and that the others gacha games hsr and zzz entered the path of mainstream, before genshin every single gacha was ass and didnt generate more than 3M per months
This is the modern equivalent of having one child arguing with this friend that his blue power ranger figurine is stronger than his friend yellow power ranger.
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Since when did game difficulty become the metric for gaccha games being good or bad lol. Actually dented take, we're acting like all of these games aren't easy to play with artifical progress limiters bound to time. Kuro shills are out here thinking they are the honored one for playing the game with negative edging, the game is not that hard, gaccha games are not hard. There's standalone games for that.
If HSR taught me anything it's that I have unlimited time to play turn based games with automode. I quickly get tired of super action based combat. Another thing it taught me is I love having a living world to explore with new areas each update, but I dislike having too much samey exploration in an open world game where almost everything feels like it's just there to put another shining chest or minipuzzle. HSR hit the perfect niche for me and I'm really annoyed there are no similar clone gachas to HSR yet with fun 3D autobattle and good animations, explorable world that's not completely open world, decent story, etc. Auto-battle takes away all the tediousness of doing the same battles again and again.
The gacha community: Hyping a game bc "dev listened" and seeing monthly revenue making "30 mil" as a failure.✅ Making a game themselves and making more money to proof a point that it is "easy" ❌
I seen comments making the comparison for Wuwa vs Hoyoverse to Samsung vs Apple is so perfectly based. I been having this thought that Hoyoverse functions the same as how Apple does and I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way.
Wtf I thought this sdsdsaasdsadasdasd had 5 accounts but he had another one totalling to 6. Theyre all made in 2024 his other accounts PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, and now edsterdwe. Theyre all made in 2024.
@@maheee didnt you see he replied to me with his alt right away. Just go through the comment section and you will see this guy shitting on mr pokke with 6 different accounts
Honestly I had the same take since zzz release, if any other company that is not hoyo launched zzz, 90% of the players wouldn't have even tried to download it and play it. That's the truth whether you want to agree or not.
kurocels only know how to boast wuwa and its combat lol to the point they forget casuals exist who just wanna chill and not grind through fcking echoes for hours everyday
tbh the echoes are actually too easy it made me quit the game after hitting ul 60 i had like 30 double crit echoes without ever farming overworld relic substat rolling is way more fun because i can always try to upgrade my characters instead of farming elemental sets for characters that dont even exist yet (and i was planning to save pulls until i could r6 a character so id just be farming echos for nobody lol) also the gameplay loop is non existant you dont even have to clear the middle towers since the rewards are so bad + no weekly mode and all the npcs are boring i actually read all the npc dialogue in other games
Tldr : Don't say genshin and hsr are Any better in Farming, where both have shittiest artifact system So farming artifacts is not grindy but farming echos are . The last time I farmed I fully calcharo. Never touched him again. I did it a month ago , probably way back. Farming echo in one go is Same as spending shit ton of resin/stamina in one go. And whose fault is that if it takes times?? That's like saying artifact farming sucks because I need to play for few min lol. Imagine getting 5 echo per day and call it and log off. But no, gotta spread that hate on wuwa for no reason. When the main stat are easier to get, stats are easier to manage. You literally need one crit rate boss mat , which any one can get using enhanced drop rate. And you get 150 CD as base. So getting the 60:200 is easy as pie. But well, since you never played it for long, you wouldn't know about it. I got changli, and it took me what?? Few minutes to get a 80:200 ratio. And i farmed for 3 days for main stat goblet, didn't co op, just finishing all droppable mobs in game - and exit the game. It would take time, if you only collect some today and log off but then again, maintaining stat is easy. You could get away with shitty artifacts. While if you consider games like genshin where I played for 2 years and I don't have an onset er sands even though I was a slave coming back each day, to spend my resins and still don't have it. Still no anemo % gob on desert pavilion- farmed for months BTW. I was managing 3 account and all had same problem, all my character were missing something. I can keep going but, it is what it is. Not trying to say that echo are god sent and game changing, they are shit, I agree on that. Had to grind 3 days, until I ran out of them for 3 different enemies. But what did I achieve?? Got 67:268 ratio on changli and that's all I am gonna farm. It ended in 2 days. While that's the opposite for other hoyo games , where even hsr and gemshin have shittiest relic system I have ever faced. Ah, I yapped a lot, my bad.
@@imperial_7776mathematically speaking genshin only has 10 substats and wuwa has 13 so Wuwa is harder to farm, people just make up for it by no lifeing overworld echoes
as someone who enjoys both zzz and wuwa, watching these people fighting over pointless things is absolute entertainment. Both games are in the top of the chart. They both have found success and the only thing different is one number is bigger than the other which only impacts the company and not the consumer. I like that there is competition but the competition (in my humble opinion) should be between the companies rather than the playerbase in order for both to keep improving their games.
WuWa needs to hurry up and come out on the ps5 already. Game runs like ass on a phone unless it's the high end ones and no I aint buying no fucking $900+ phone for a f2p game.
🤣people making so many excuses for wuwa but they dont even criticize the real problem with wuwa which is they have too much focus on combat and not the casual stuff. player retention is just bad because people arent invested. forcing story on people inevitably makes people more invested
The community has themselves to blame before wuwa release every single video had negative comments The game didn't outright eos on arrival and actually made good money so now people who liked this game finally had the chance to clap back But they too took it too far and are reaping what they sowed The worst part is that this is gacha community we're talking about so none of these people will learn anything and the cycle will continue
Treading water takes effort. Wuwa naturally dropped from 45 to 30-35. Hoyo increased from 160 to 170. If Hoyo did nothing they wouldn't just retain 160.
I will say is that WuWa is a terrible *mobile* game It’s a good game on PC but on mobile? LOL LMAO EVEN. Yeah try playing optimally on a phone that’s a couple years old and without any third party accessories/controllers. WuWa is a good game on PC but a terrible Mobile game.
i would rather say "uncomplete mobile game" than straight up terrible because I use a pretty old-ish phone, to be specific i use an [infinix 7 note] and it seems to work properly. now lets talk about zzz, I cant even download the game cuz i don't have a better phone. now you can call me a shill i got no problem with that but you cant just say a game is terrible just cuz some people cant play it properly with early 2015 phones.
@@chinkyflahz well i wasnt just talking about how it runs in the phone. but the mechanics of the game which favors PC users heavily. the default aim speed is wayy too sensitive. because they just put the same sensitivity as the PC. they didnt even see if it was reasonable (stuff like the bird mini game doesnt use your adjusted aim sensitivity too) plus the grapple hooks are legit wayy too tight to use on mobile.
Oh yeah, I cant imagine playing Wuwa on mobile. Between heavy action combat and performance (and visuals not hitting when downgraded) it must be a terrible experience. On mobile I can 100% agree Wuwa would be way worse then ZZZ.
WuWa has issues. Biggest for me is the main progression in WuWa. Taking user level 60 to max out a character and the echo being extremely resource extensive. If they just allowed level 1 echoes to level up echoes this will fix 1 issue. But yeah, having a bunch of echoes to reroll but with no level up mats it's pointless to do.
Imagine saying "worse gacha community than genshin"😂 Theres still no VA harassment, torturing cats, assasination attempt, mass 1 star on unrelated app in PlayStore, etc. Meanwhile Wuwa community get called toxic just because:"My game is better than yours" LMAO.
Idk man, scrolling over these comments and on pokke's livestream chat, almost all of them are bashing wuwa.. wuwabots, kurobots, deadgame etc.. surely zzz community is so healthy and full of innocent people right..
@@Kramer8 You're right, it was an overstatement, to say the least. I do definitely think they've had the worst behavior since Wuthering Waves' launch, though.
I play all 4 games, saying that genshin is shit its fair cause lack of QOL and overall gameplay loop, but shitting on ZZZ because you are mad at mihoyo its way too disingenuous 😂
Why people surprised when WuWa doesn't make as much money as hoyo games? From how the banner in WuWa works its already obvious it's not gonna make as much money: Guaranteed limited weapon banner, No 5 star weapon in Character banner, Less pity and better drop rates. And also everybody get at least 3 different 5 star char of their choosing at the beginning of the game, and a 5 star weapon in lvl 45 so people can just use their standard pulls on the weapon banner (you can choose the weapon that you want guaranteed). The 5 star weapon is pretty good too so less people are going to pull for the limited weapon. (I forgot to mention you can also share weapon in WuWa so if your main DPS is Jiyan, Jinhsi, And Calcharo for example you only need 1 5 Star Broadblade for your 3 teams lol)
@@Bakemer94 Really? I don't watch twitch but I guess there is not much to do in Wuwa right now except echo farming and using stamina, hopefully they added a new event soon. I just got to UL 60 today so I'm still enjoying it tho
Hoyo zzz community continues to make me laugh with their double standards and hyppocrisy. Wuwa lives rent free in their minds. Now they got exposed and playing the victkm card.
Kurobots are funny asf, ZZZ is living rent free in your brainless heads 😂, i mean i get it, you have too much space in your head so you just stuck all of those hate towards ZZZ and ride Kuro's poor sausage 😂
@@User_2024-9 Hoyobots are funny af, obsessed with Wuwa, living rent free, can't stay off Wuwa. Now go back to barking, hoyo doggy lmao, and ride Hoyo's poor sausage bahahah
funny that you say that... because you can just go to any video about wuwa and you'll see one of the top comments talk about hoyo games or video about zzz and see wuwa players talk about their game for literally no reason. bruh, hoyo is pretty much living rent free inside wuwa players head 😂 btw stop using your bunch of alt to comment because you're too insecure to use your real account, cus this is just pathetic man.
Idk why everyone mad about wuva revenue, there was almost no content for the most of this month so the dropoff is deserved. I actually more excited that pgr revenue is rising every month despite saving patches
I feel MrPokke slowly become MrDrama Bro should just drop wuwa n any kurogames games if u dont like it tbh...at least i could just watch ur HSR content not a overpraising ZZZ content
To be honest WUWA started to bore me i don't feel enjoy grinding in the game although echo is farmable overworld but not echo EXP and tuners and it exhausting to do this daliy. While HSR just auto farm relics without getting exhausted everyday. It's limited daliy but enough to satisfy me. And i play HSR since launch without complaint about it.
I was going to say that the comment section was pretty tame and I was recovering my fate in the community until i got to the bottom comments and saw the shills lmao, fuk this shit imma drop both games and download love and deepspace
People can't accept the fact that a game that they hate and expected to flop made it to top. LMAO. Proceed to glaze and made a lot of excuses from their favorite game because their ego can't take it. 😆
@@member.5290 Facepalm, that's like saying on ZZZ other than Hollow Content what's more "challenging" about ZZZ. Even MMORPG are like that lol, only certain end game becomes a challenge while Story,overworld are just a means of timegate,grind etc, are you new perhaps in RPG?
@@member.5290a lot of the events will be like Pgr where it's going to focus on you having well built teams Holograms, tactical simulacra for example, illusive realm, Tower, (more leaked modes)
@@haruusami1831 i just asked question, because i played wuwa myself. Second, i dont say that zzz is a hardcore game, even the most hard content (hollow zero last stage) is a simulated universe, which mean u can get god seed and rush thru run easily
WELCOME TO SUMMONER’S RIFT
And yes I changed the title 3 times deal with it
Inb4 feeding jungler
WOAH! Mrpokke actually looking at chat & comments.
INSANEE!!!!
kara cancelled negative edging rizz WOW!
Mr. Pokke, please try playing Love and Deepspace.
😆💕
Gacha Goblin is a good CC. She can guide you through the game if you need the help. 😊
Pokke, box2, mujin and eango all oiled up in the same room. They must fight to the death with no weapons. Who wins?
Most annoying gatcha community in history vs most annoying gatcha community of today
*gatcha*
An insufferable force meets an unbearable object
@@RinrinFranGyatcha
@@teyvatato2148 There we go, the true term.
I find it weird that the nationalistic Asian community dunks on us in Global but yet they hop gacha to gacha spending the most in the mobile market in Asian countries. Explain that? Make it make sense.
guys hear me out: You're defending companies that are making millions off of you. Just stop fighting, enjoy your games.
Best take in here.
Based
@@Tiasungbest yet normal take, playing game you like is exactly what it should be
This opened my eyes, thank you.
@@bigman415 ngl though, it's really funny seeing people defend multimillion dolar companies. Like, come on guys, you can play more than one gacha, the dailies take like two minutes to do LOL.
When are people not upset? lol
Edit: the title changed and now I look schizophrenic 💀
Exactly
Edit 2 when
@@mrpokkeeSTOP CHANGING IT, NOW I LOOK EVEN MORE SCHIZOPHRENIC
@@T7L6M_yo man I think your schizo
@@mrpokkee blud just trolling for fun now
My Favorite Game is better than Your Favorite game🤓☝
🤓
Well actually, you’re wrong because MY game is actually the best and all of your games are therefore garbage 🤓
Nooo 😭 MY game is the best. The other games are just garbage. My game is completely original and better 😭
Technically speaking, my game is everyone's favorite game 🖕🤓🖕
Naww, all yall tweaking... *MY* favorite game is better!!!
the gacha community cannot comprehend different people enjoying different things to each their own
A lot do. Half of them are scared of losing playerbase to competitors because that is income that won't go into further development for their game.
Remember the silent MAJORITY that can't be F**cked to care about other's opinions when they do their own thing.
meanwhile mmo players. . .
Yeah we're upset because YOU WON'T OIL UP 😢
Edit: The original title of this video was "People are upset"
Edit 2: OIL UP FOR THE VILLAGERS POKKE!!! SHOW US THAT YOU ARE HIM 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Yea I wana give backshots 😭
Edit 2 when
@@mrpokkee
PEOPLE ARE UPSET
THINGS ARE OUT OF HAND
THE GACHA COMMUNITY IS UPSET
THE GACHA COMMUNITY HAS GONE NUCLEAR UPSET
Mr poke needs to man up and ... oil up 😂😂😂
Honestly at the beginning all this drama was fun for a while but after constantly doing this, the reaction content is just becoming rage bait and engagement farming.
I was one of your oldest viewers, started watching when you were making actual content videos giving us perspective about which character was worth our pulls in HSR. (especially the chinese viewpoint)
You still do those but you Branched out too much into drama/react content. It maybe good for your channel but overall quality has dropped off a bit.
Repeating the same phrase again and again is funny at the beginning (Insane, Nuclear, F2pBTW etc) but its just annoying now. Not to mention the speed at which you speak -It was ok before but you just yap randomly at times which is really unintelligible.
I am still your supporter but i will be actively avoiding these type of videos now on.
You might not even read this but if you do, i am just saying this as a wellwisher who watched your channel grow and enjoyed your content before.
I mean, he basically just went to this direction of content cause he hangs out with tectone lmao. As is the fact that one shape's themself based on their environment, pokke being surrounded by the drama and Tectone in particular made his content shift into this direction.
Now tbf, his vids with his mods were enjoyable, cause its literally just him hanging out with people he knows on discord and watching them play.
@@jeological5394tectone being the top gacha content creator has this negative effect where now all the upcoming content creators model themselves after him. Just lazy drama farming and react content. Not a lot of actually original content.
Tectone is very successful with this but I don't care for that type of content, but too many CCs now just copy his formula.
@@Sable813 yeah pretty much. the thing is the guy is literally just a grumpy guy, who can actually make being a 29yr old actually look like a 50yr old. And its cause of this fact that he can continue farming views from the content he makes regardless of whether the viewers see him in a positive/negative light.
The problem arises when other CCs start to emulate that type of content and actually can't handle the results of making such content.
Here's another point to think about, this ZZZ vs WuWa drama is 100% manufactured and completely made up by the community themselves, there was not a single evidence that shows the official ZZZ nor WuWa Devs plan to have this war with each other. Therefore I would advise taking this community drama with an inch of salt as it's completely made up purely for farming hate and rage bait
Well said to be honest, share the same thought.
If you're upset that your favourite game is too low on the charts just spend more money! EZ.
Facts lol
Imagining getting upset because their games get lower revenue while not being a whale 😂
Bro really just casually spitting the best take
Honestly correct but the people who complain about the revenue stuff are the F2P players which is god dang ironic.
Hahaha I was gonna put that comment 😂😂😂
"NEUTRALLY speaking guys" 💀💀💀
Be nootral.
Ne-uther-ally speakin guys
Two circus argue for who have the most clowns inside
*honk honk*
🤡🎈
These people don't understand that casuals carry gacha games.
Reason why HSR, Genshin and ZZZ makes more money than WuWa is cause the playerbase Hoyoverse appeals to the most are just more likely to spend and there are more of them.
If casuals can't even do abyss in genshin, why would they bother playing and paying in WuWa
Also because the gacha in hoyo games sucksssss
Which is half true. The main reason why HoYo is successful is because of branding and marketing. It’s the same exact reason why Apple is successful even though their competitors make better products.
And the fact other hoyo games revenue got lowered, means that some loyal hoyo whale spenders are just transferring on their other game.
@@haruusami1831You have to consider the filler banners as well
@@TacticalDimples Well its a combination of things. A) much more casual base, B) dedicated base that plays more of their games so they spend more on Hoyo stuff, C) way more marketting, D) more predatory gacha. But yeah good comparison with Apple. They sell a lot cuz of mindshare as well.
I'm pretty sure gacha players care more about the monthly revenue reports than the actual investors do.
Tectone breed these tribals. Now they're everywhere.
Breed? Bro he farms them right after.
srsly when i started HSR - my first gacha - 1.5 years ago i already got the feeling right away that at least 50% of the gacha community is mentally unstable.
now 1.5 years later i know for sure that actually 80% of the gacha community has severe mental issues without any chance of fixing them
Wrong.
It's actually 95%
Tbh its any online community, just the nature of the Internet so don't think too much anout it
@@LutfiKresnik wrong it's 99%
@@Ilya0084 Wrong, its 100%.
Lets be unstable together.
Everyone have mental illness. Go look at other media like novel, tv shows, etc, hell even the community, society, government, west, middle east, Africa, Asia, the whole world. No one is mentally stable.
Love and Deep Space being Number 1 next period is gonna be so funny
Nah...Hot banners are over, for now tho😉
Honest opinion, I am one of the people WuWa lost due to bad mobile optimization.
For context, I love WuWa and Genshin, and I had quit both. Firstly, I came to realize that while both games are kinda of like open world rpg, they're not like Skyrim (if you guys get what I mean) where everytime you explore an area, you get cool loot and stuff. In Genshin and WuWa, you gotta explore the mao entirely to get pulls, once you have pulls you gotta be lucky if you wanna get what you want. I came to realize I'm not a big fan of that because I feel like my effort is not being repayed equally, but this one is a personal gripe.
The real issue is the performance issues. I have this fixation of wanting to be able to play genshin and wuwa with maximum quality. But I can't, and yes it's unreasonable given that my phone is a bit old. So I of course was willing to play on the lowest settings. Genshin was still laggy and clunky even at the lowest settings (do keep in mind I was using a different phone then that the one I have now xD)
And unfortunately WuWa was the same, it was having crazy frame rate drops, it was laggy overall. It became frustrating to play.
And so, despite how much I love these games, I had to quit them because they were stressing me tf out. I'm glad I still have HSR though xd
So much popcorn can be eaten in this WuWa ZZZ war. Hot take, an easier game is more accessible and more people will play, just look at Genshin. Also hot take, playing a harder game does not make you and everything you stand for superior.
@@JohnStamR yeah its just Dota vs Lol all over again
i mean all of Gacha games were never hard to begin with, you got issues if you think any of them is "sweatily challenging" 💀
@@a4arick106 wuwabots arent happy w this cmt!
Good take. Casual gremlins who can spend minimally while pulling + playing favorite chars are what carries games. Appeal + accessibility are probably the biggest factors of success here. Difficulty and skill are a niche in the gatcha space.
@@Hidea98 True. Deep and lovespace can confirm this.
Why would Love and Deepspace cater to the "gays" when the devs' blatant homophobia (banning yaoi fanarts etc) was prevalent in the game's runtime and it was even hated by the lgbtq community. That honestly undermines the fact women can in fact spend money on games too lol
Srsly, they weren't as loud back when it was still obey me, mystic messenger or even tears of themis days. Lol. Ccs look like they're underestimating the power of women's wallets lol.
lets be honest
the real revenue on July was the Iyo Kara Canceling and Negative Edging on how it blew everyone's mind
Neutrally speaking, Blud is stiring the shitpot and farming the drama i see it
Best way to enjoy a game is to ignore the commnunity lol. You'll just lose more braincells if you keep interacting with this kind of people. Dont give a fuck about others opinion, just play and enjoy the game you want and you'll find peace.
🤔 As a WuWa fan who plays on mobile, WuWa's spot below ZZZ is deserved. 😅 WuWa is my fave, ⚠️ but there's no controller support so the experience sucks. ZZZ is easier to play on mobile cuz tapping my screen randomly is enough to win and progress.
Most players play on PC so it's doing far better than people are assuming.
But this is MOBILE revenue. Playing WuWa without a controller is not efficient. It's an annoying experience. They NEED to add controller support.
I'm honestly surprised it did as well as it did in mobile revenue when the mobile experience has been hovering between being mid to sub-par with no controller support.
lol perfectly said
They've teased a Playstation 5 build of the game I have no Idea when it's coming out but that should allow more people to play it since it runs well
The controller support stuff though may come alongside Ps5 release, Hopefully they fix their servers before then because latency issues alongside controller latency is suffering
nice take
wuwa on phone is unplayable on high difficulties and this could be corrected with controller support.xd
$30mill and top 5 games is mid?! Oh my goodness...
I do like GachaSmack's point about this tho
Only wuwa shills upset lamo ,zzz beating wuwa in its first month of release already a big W , genhsin killer 🥱🥱 got killed by zzz 🗿🗿🗿
Love and deepspace doesnt need a open world, complicated combat system and a toxic community to remind their game is the best to perform well.
Im glad a genuine dating simulator finally beat genshin 👩🦯
I am surprised that people cannot understand that every game goes through a honeymoon phase after it's initial launch.
ZZZ was going to inevitably be the top grossing game especially because it has Hoyo's backing and a relatively smooth launch.
I think it’s a bit funny to see people talking about f*cking gacha games as if they talking about the stock market. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter at all how much money the companies make… the only thing we as the consumers should care about is whether the game updates we get are lit or not. I want people to talk about characters, quests, cutscenes and aboobas and not about Wolf of Wall Street sh*t.
Those two things are directly connected. Hence why so many games are following the Hoyo model.
They all had booba, but development is following the money.
well the thing is if they are not making shit we are not getting shit either, just look at ToF
why dont they just play zzz AND wuwa?
Time.
For example I myself barley have enough time for genshin wuwa and hsr (and some other games)
Having to chose what game you play everyday is normal Gacha gamers just want to shit on something they don't play so they don't feel bad about not playing it.
I do that myself lol , wuwa is better imo tho
Because zzz is predatory as hell and has a boring ass generic plot and tons of lolis i aint trying to play edp445 simulator
@@iCHRIS-xThen just drop ZZZ i guess? I personally can't take more than one gacha game which is ZZZ for me and if you are having more fun with wuwa it's absolutely fine to drop ZZZ and get more free time for yourself
i dropped wuwa for zzz, it just wasn't enjoyable
Wuwa have a Guaranteed weapon 5 star drop which is better than all hoyoverse gacha game combined 😎😎
Nobody cares about a weapon lmfao😂
@@Thedoorway123 i do Lmao
Because they design the standard 5* weapon suck ASS
Man wuwa community has gotten so out of hand. It's just insane to me how they're treating the game like it's the second coming of Jesus, that it's perfect and there's no wrong thing in it, and that we should support and like it because it's the savior of the gaming community. It's just so interesting how the mentality of the wuwa community is to pride themselves that it is the absolute and you should like the game and hate other games. It's just so insane. How did we even get to this point? It's so crazy man
Please dont take youtube chat as wuwa community, we do not claim these idiots.
the truth is ZZZ is better and they need to slander it, or else ppl will switch over to ZZZ
ppl like to pick sides and cant do both for some reason
Huh ? Really ? Not like theyve been complaining abt Echoes tuners and exp, not like they complain abt bad mobile optimization and no controller support, not like they have been giving criticism right ? Aint no way right ? All praise right ? Not like the things you see is not what the majority do right ?
Not like ZZZ has been getting all hate right ? No one praised it right ? No one is saying "zzz is better than ww" right ? Not like what you see is what majority do also right ?
Its not like these discord between communities are gone the moment you pay no attention to them right ? Man i sure cant play both games and criticize them both and also not pick a definitive size and can compare which properties they do better.
Man i sure cant leave a comment talking smack about one community, while completely disregarding the other community and only pay attention to the side that i want to talk badly to due to the reaction ive only seen online, and not due to the main fact that my personal enjoyment of video games boils down to my affinity with drama related to said communities.
I sure hope that there are no people with sound mind who can play whatever games they like and accept and criticize the flaws that they have. That would be awful.
Don't generalize an entire community based on a few unhinged comments on youtube. Most wuwa players do not partake in this "drama" in the first place.
With all these "people" calling each other bots I'm starting to think the dead internet theory has some legitimacy... 🤔
Kuro Games makes less money than it could for several reasons
1: more advantageous gacha for players you only need 4 copies for a character instead of 6 there you still have 2 possibilities to lose 50/50 and go to hard pity = more money
2:
does not have the 50/50 or 70/30 nonsense for weapons again it loses money where other games milk the players until they pass out
3 Banners will run for a bit more than three weeks 20+ days
4:a more advantageous system to obtain artifacts with or without stamina where in other games you are forced to use stamina and normally you use money to recharge your stamina
.....................
hoyoverse knows how to milk players
5: I love Kuro 😭😭
Idk why they would care about how much money they make. I think they have more than enough to pay for the servers. Feel free to call me naive on that take. I truly care for quality than revenue.
BS... Echo farming is worse than artifact farming.
@@raulmaltrain6893 no lol , artifact farming is timegated while echo farming is not.
@@reaperfall6630 being timegated doesnt make it worse. Have fun having to spend hours in the open world and not getting a single upgrade. Thank god it is timegated in hoyo games.
36 seconds ago
I feel lonely as I don't have other people's comments to validate my thoughts
Validation validation validation
Sounds right to the internet....I mean it's how some people make a living
(Proof of this is check out "anti w"ke youtubers....along with "alpha male" podcasts)
Floods of validation 🌊🌊🌊🌊
I watch Asmongold, Tectone and MoistCritikal, and I agree with u
I'm Neutrally looking forward to these CCs Kara cancelling their ZZZ takes to Negative Edge their way out of controversy.
These comments are funny 😂, let them come bros!
gachasmack saying the ZZZ spenders were just hoyo spenders that didn't spend in genshin/hsr is painfully untrue and it's going to reveal itself in time. ZZZ brought in many, MANY people who've never been in hoyosphere before
Zzz brought furries into the gacha space lmao
@@loufih that's smart, nothing beat furries in term of spending money lol.
I mean there's a reason why artist that do commission for furries is making banks even though they despise furries themself 😂
True FGC members are covering the game in YT.
@@loufih zzz also exposed some people as furries 😔✌
correct me if i am wrong but i think its not official info from these companies, that don't just share how much does every game make, these are just speculations and they can be MUCH different in reality, we really cant know for sure what numbers that these games generate.
And it's just the iOS market only. These games make waaaaaay more money. I think zzz probably had hit more than 200 mils all platforms combined
Why are people arguing about Companys making money
They all are making WAY TO MUCH MORE then they all deserve
Tribalism/mental illness. Some people genuinely think wuwa should be less generous so they can get more revenue. Since people tend to invest lots of money or time or both into these games they need there game to be up top or the best or they feel bad. Lot of people have insane time sunk/money sunk fallacy on these hyper predatory games.
Pp measuring contest on whose casino scams better 😎
@@pukajamas2479 Bro in wuwa u can spent 300 euros to get an r5 weapon in zzz or genshin you will get one copy max 2 if you lucky. Gacha gamers really thing more money = more revenue = better game.
saying that your game is better because it stole more money in very unethical way is a pretty weird flex tbh💀
Because my game is better so it should be more popular and richer than your game. It's only logical!
PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, edsterdwe, sdsdsaasdsadasdasd, Indet Jungfdare all the same accounts btw. 4 comments shitting on mr pokke all accounts made in 2024. Edit" as of now i spotted 9 different accounts most of them made in june 2024
@@PonderMINGY bro you go exposing yourself in every post bro.
@@Junowynxhu Atleast your acting is getting better lmao. You made a 7th account to shit on mr pokke again.
@@Junowynxhu bro who paid you to shit on mr pokke with different alt accounts? Genuinly curious.
nah thats actually crazy. and that kid likes his own comments with his alts too how low life can someone be jfc
@@dookie9802 yeah they're stalking too.. both magically just appeared in my comment within 10 minutes that I just made
one thing I thought that could also make Wuwa have less revenue is, they basically are more F2P than ZZZ and others. Weapon are guarantee means you absolutely will spend less on the weapon banner, and if you are RC6R5 you only need to roll for RC4 and R5 then you can exchange the last 2 RC in the shop, which makes the games really don't need that much spending
One of my favorite copes from Kuro bots is that the reason wuwa is low is because the game is “hard”. Believe it or not, There are many people who believe hoyo games are hard, when the Ruan mei bug quest came out, there were so many post on Twitter/tiktok about how hard the bug was to beat. My gf only plays gatcha games hsr,genshin, nikke and she sucks at them but she still enjoys them and whales on the game. If the game is good, it doesn’t matter how hard or challenging the game is, people will play/spend money on it.
okay, I don't buy into ww is omega hard either but comparing having to learn enemy moveset in any action game to struggling in hsr caused by your dogshit build is stupid
You are a hoyo bot, hence have no gf.
U want to sit and tell me left click simulator known as zzz, press 4 ults at the same time known as genshin and autoplay known as hsr is harder than wuwa? Brother what
@@xhyz54 when did I say any of those games are hard??? I’m saying there’s many people who think hoyoverse games are hard but yet still play them, so wuwa players saying the reason no one plays their game cus it’s “hard” it’s just coping. If the game is good people will play, simple
@@wbbb1256 game is good either way lol, the only people hating on wuwa are genshin players disguising themselves as "zzz players" when they are clearly hating it for no reason
Yeah nah I can't be bothered with getting involved with this fandom war. Just play the games and enjoy them for what they are, you don't need other's opinions to validate your enjoyment of either.
At this point I'd happily take a degen community over a toxic one. It's far friendlier UWOOGHH-ing with the Nikke, AL, SCZ, or BD2 community, or 😭😭😭💢💢💢 with the BA one.
Bro made this whole video just to shit on WuWa shills and says he is natural Truly our streamer
Hoyo shill streamer at its best
And I thought you said you can’t watch him anymore like 4 months ago 😂
@@Kin_shekyep yep😂
you mean neutral not natural.. eh natural kind of makes sense too though so whatever
Can you blame him when they act this unhinged?
Why can't everyone just let everyone enjoy what they want, I don't play zzz but it's good that people like it. So what if it earns more money? Does it affect anything? Why do people need to get upset with this?
Some people are mentally unwell and need to start shit online.
If the ZZZ community didn't have to endure an entire month of non stop hate mostly from a specific game's community then we wouldn't be running our mouths now.
7:05 is all the proof you need that Mr Poke doesn’t read chat.
Not Kuroshills thinking their game had a chance to beat any of Hoyo games revenue and Hoyoshills thinking a game with millions of dollars revenue is flopping.
Y'all gacha gamers are becoming more like kpop fandoms, fighting over charts and numbers 😂
Exactly and at the end of the day does it matter? Idc if wuwa aint beating hoyo i just want kuro to produce a peak game💀. And i thought we all established that more popular/more money ≠ better quality (and i dont get how ppl are surprised that zzz got 96mil)
Fr lol like these tally will help them with their financial problems 😂
Hoyos Fanbase is notorious for just being extreme outside of the gaming community who are relatively chill
The mentally ill who take it to social media showcase why they're so disliked lmao
Hoyo shills spreading hate on wuwa, Kuro shills spreading hate on zzz, now hoyo shills are spreading hate on wuwa because zzz came top 😂.
What a bunch of people they are hahaha.
If only they could just play the game and enjoy, but nah, i bet whenever they see a video they are like "I need to make sure that I spread hate on Internet " type of mindset subconsciously.😂
@@imperial_7776it is just a huge circus show at this point lol
Wuwa is a better game, but ZZZ has better lore, character backround, general world building(it being a smaller world helps that), and honestly phenomenal npcs, world just feels more lively and interesting despite being 1/10000 the size.
There's also just not enough side quests or reasons to wander around in Wuwa, sure the world has prettier places but once you see those places there's nothing else but farming mats and echoes really.
If ZZZ is better in all those things, then it's the better game.
@@FelipeSilva-jm8yg Gameplay makes a game, everything else is extra. I don't consider walking simulators, or visual novels as games. The game elements of ZZZ is absolutely inferior to Wuwa.
This whole sensory tower situation is just so damn funny. People have already said time and time again that data on sensory tower has always been a rough estimate, yet the gacha community still act like this is their bible and wage their holy wars against each other
Im not going to lie the western cc took a big L. Instead of just saying the game is not for me they go on a constant rant about zzz. Literally living rent free in their heads. Also the fighting over which gacha game is better is insane. I understand why they call it gacha pvp. Just play the game you like and shut up.
Hear me out guy: Maybe not everyone is a sweaty tryhard.
Drop Wuwa after 1.1 the next update take too long, Ui suck, music kinda mid, bad performance( my pc can run GOW,RDR2 at medium setting with 50-60fps, yet still lagging at low setting on Wuwa) maybe comeback if thing getting better.
thats kinda interesting, my pc cant even run rdr2 at that fps but i get 100fps (fps unlock) on wuwa at the highest settings. quite curious abt your pc specs
@@kyankuni Dell G15 5511 Gaming Laptop Intel I5-11260H 16Gb, 512Gb, Nvidia RTX 3050 (4Gb GDDR6) Windows 11
Its in unreal engine man, sadly it sucks.
my personal laptop , not too expensive, also suffers same issue, the lag is quite insane, even if i plug a charger, it can be noticed.
sadly the game is just too heavy for pc, laptops.
music is mid, i agree, ui sucks, agree.
i can handle advanced settings only on charger though haha.
I have gt 1030 and ryzen 3 and im running the game fine, its called skill issue not the "music is mid" and "story is bad" stick to genshin
@@xhyz54how is a genuine device performance a skill issue, you warm toilet seat?
The hate Dokkan been getting in these revenue videos for no reason because it did better than WuWa 😂 (Ui goku dropping in a few days so it might be another rough month too)
What the heck is this dokkan game? Is it a turn based DB??
Reminds me of Apple vs Samsung thing back then.
Apple consumers are in their own ecosystem, clapping like mindless seals every 5 seconds while samsung consumers often boast how their product have more features than the other product.
That said, revenue isn't exactly the best basis. Old AC games are better but the new ones have more sales. There are a lot of shit movies that earned millions.
WuWa community needs to chill like PGR community. On the other hand, I wouldn't tell the Genshin community to do the same, I gave up a long time ago.
I doubt wuwa will be chill, they draw same crowd as genshin. Wuwa is less of controversy though.
Bruh wuwa community are full of genshin immigrants migrating to Wuwa.
@@kaka09876543210 If you don't dig deeper into their shithole, you won't be bothered by genshin comm. Wuwa comm on the other hand have this unbearable superiority complex on every comment and thread.
@@steven310250 and? New players, PGR veterans don't exist in your list ig
@@kaka09876543210 based on experience, WuWa community is chill. Surprisingly, even the WuWa subreddit is chill, was expecting it to be a shithole.
The negative edgelord was kinda right about the neo genshin community tbh. Wuwa community is looking hella unhinged right now.
That’s every community. You put enough idiots together, they become louder lol
I dunno man, it's equally as bad for ZZZ and Hoyo side of things, that's just generally how toxic fanbases are for gacha games.
Cope take lmao. ZZZ is the most shit on community and no one is on the offensive @@ImproperStandby
even before the game was released the wuwa community was already in unhinged
Don't generalize an entire community based on a few unhinged comments on youtube
Wuwabots in shambles their game couldn't beat any of the big 3 hoyo games once 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How so it beat genshin the first month it was out lmao
@@xhyz54 It literally didn't..
Hoyo zzz community continues to make me with their double standards and hyppocrisy. Wuwa lives rent free in their minds. Now they got exposed and playing the victkm card.
Understandable, every kuro bot and other guys says zzz is gonna flop. So their taking revenge I think
@@PonderMINGY schizo stop replaying to your alt accounts (PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, edsterdwe, sdsdsaasdsadasdasd )
Another clown with no life, womp womp, poor wuwa shills twisting everything again, wuwa is the victim here, especially with genshin situation 😂
I knew this was gonna happen. Why? Because WuWa glazers and Hoyo haters spent the better half of the year stating how hoyo is doomed, how WuWa will beat the gacha market and revolutionize it, and all this other copium. Now that their game is here and its kinda shit in some areas, copies some of the worst aspects of Genshin and doesnt even tell a good story, theyre faced with the facts and rather than accept WuWu as just another gacha game, they’re gonna double down on being hurt by Hoyo and start a shitstorm online over it. Its giving HexJuice energy.
This is why I can't take hoyobots seriously. They actively hate on wuwa since launch due to insecurity and then bark this nonsense. Wuwa is better than zzz. Cope and seethe hoyo clown
Both of you guys just proved this vid lmao 🤣 Just enjoy what you like, why the fuck do others' opinions matter
@@yeetianchia5077 PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, edsterdwe, sdsdsaasdsadasdasd. he has 6 accounts shitting on mr pokke all accounts made in 2024.
@@yeetianchia5077 girl this is the internet, we’re here to brawl not make love. Thats for irl 🤣. Now hush with your mediation and give us your spicy gacha rot take
@@Junowynxhu says the guy with 7 accounts lmao
wuwa camera is dogshit and the game doesnt deserve my money until they fix it. in the mean time ill happily give my money to zzz for making a game that is fun to play.
People be defending multi million dollar company lmao...
Exactly people need to go outside and touch grass csuse u will never catch me defending any of these companies😭
Hoyo is a billion dollar company at this point even. I dont really get why people are so dedicated to them. Esp since they have not only hit well (HI3 part 1, HSR) but also missed hard (Genshin, HI3 1.5-2) and being split (ZZZ, god-tier animation, actual mid/generic chara designs, tedious gameplay)
@@Tiasung how is genshin a miss om
@@Tiasung if you call genshin a miss, then you're clearly living out of this world man. It's thank to that game that wuwa was created, and that the others gacha games hsr and zzz entered the path of mainstream, before genshin every single gacha was ass and didnt generate more than 3M per months
Companies*
This is the modern equivalent of having one child arguing with this friend that his blue power ranger figurine is stronger than his friend yellow power ranger.
I love seeing kurobots rage 😂
@@sa_nji_7378 hes actually a bot maybe a paid service. 7 accounts PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, edsterdwe, sdsdsaasdsadasdasd, now trvolta-c8t. 5 comments shitting on mr pokke all made in 2024.
Since when did game difficulty become the metric for gaccha games being good or bad lol. Actually dented take, we're acting like all of these games aren't easy to play with artifical progress limiters bound to time. Kuro shills are out here thinking they are the honored one for playing the game with negative edging, the game is not that hard, gaccha games are not hard. There's standalone games for that.
Pokke thinks hes still neutral is the funniest part. What a loser. Im glad i never liked him
bro, you about to get doxed, better stop clown
@@member.5290 PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, edsterdwe, sdsdsaasdsadasdasd. 4 comments shitting on mr pokke all made in 2024.
@@Junowynxhu its so funny how all the accounts i mentioned conveniently come to reply lmao.
He’s bullying stupid people, that’s all, it’s just a coincidence that they are wuwa fans in general(no hate to normal wuwa players❤)
If HSR taught me anything it's that I have unlimited time to play turn based games with automode. I quickly get tired of super action based combat. Another thing it taught me is I love having a living world to explore with new areas each update, but I dislike having too much samey exploration in an open world game where almost everything feels like it's just there to put another shining chest or minipuzzle. HSR hit the perfect niche for me and I'm really annoyed there are no similar clone gachas to HSR yet with fun 3D autobattle and good animations, explorable world that's not completely open world, decent story, etc. Auto-battle takes away all the tediousness of doing the same battles again and again.
What's more insane is, you call out only the wuwa community. Call it double standard, good job rev it up, keep on poking mr. pokke
Yep. Pokke the hypocrite.
They are the ones whining the most about this it’s only natural
@@senseioct8564 All we are seeing is whining from zzz shills that can't digest people not liking the dogshit game they play.
every single wuwa/zzz video there's a cunt in the comment section mentioning how wuwa is so much better than zzz. it's really easy why he does it
But it's true tho.
The gacha community:
Hyping a game bc "dev listened" and seeing monthly revenue making "30 mil" as a failure.✅
Making a game themselves and making more money to proof a point that it is "easy" ❌
Hoyobots crying never gets old.
I seen comments making the comparison for Wuwa vs Hoyoverse to Samsung vs Apple is so perfectly based. I been having this thought that Hoyoverse functions the same as how Apple does and I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way.
and here i thought wuwa community is chill
Nice paid comment hoyo bot
Wtf I thought this sdsdsaasdsadasdasd had 5 accounts but he had another one totalling to 6. Theyre all made in 2024 his other accounts PonderMINGY, sadasdasdsa, Galiburton, HhtggTggfghg, and now edsterdwe. Theyre all made in 2024.
lmao atleast stop exposing yourself clown
omg already, calm down guys lmao
@@maheee didnt you see he replied to me with his alt right away. Just go through the comment section and you will see this guy shitting on mr pokke with 6 different accounts
the arguement for "they cant even boycot properly" kinda describe genshin fanbase as a whole. no back bone.
This is better than those woke twitter users that don't even play the game and demand to make all character black gay and ugly
We get it, you don't like the gays and blacks
what it has to do with anything, cope harder
Honestly I had the same take since zzz release, if any other company that is not hoyo launched zzz, 90% of the players wouldn't have even tried to download it and play it. That's the truth whether you want to agree or not.
kurocels only know how to boast wuwa and its combat lol to the point they forget casuals exist who just wanna chill and not grind through fcking echoes for hours everyday
because kurobot no money,no life,no skill thats why they think wuwu is the most hardcore game they ever think 😂
tbh the echoes are actually too easy it made me quit the game after hitting ul 60 i had like 30 double crit echoes without ever farming overworld
relic substat rolling is way more fun because i can always try to upgrade my characters instead of farming elemental sets for characters that dont even exist yet (and i was planning to save pulls until i could r6 a character so id just be farming echos for nobody lol)
also the gameplay loop is non existant you dont even have to clear the middle towers since the rewards are so bad + no weekly mode and all the npcs are boring
i actually read all the npc dialogue in other games
to be honest the game isnt even forcing u to fkin farm echoes for hours, neutrally speaking
Tldr :
Don't say genshin and hsr are Any better in Farming, where both have shittiest artifact system
So farming artifacts is not grindy but farming echos are .
The last time I farmed I fully calcharo. Never touched him again. I did it a month ago , probably way back.
Farming echo in one go is Same as spending shit ton of resin/stamina in one go.
And whose fault is that if it takes times??
That's like saying artifact farming sucks because I need to play for few min lol.
Imagine getting 5 echo per day and call it and log off.
But no, gotta spread that hate on wuwa for no reason.
When the main stat are easier to get, stats are easier to manage.
You literally need one crit rate boss mat , which any one can get using enhanced drop rate.
And you get 150 CD as base.
So getting the 60:200 is easy as pie.
But well, since you never played it for long, you wouldn't know about it.
I got changli, and it took me what?? Few minutes to get a 80:200 ratio.
And i farmed for 3 days for main stat goblet, didn't co op, just finishing all droppable mobs in game - and exit the game.
It would take time, if you only collect some today and log off but then again, maintaining stat is easy.
You could get away with shitty artifacts.
While if you consider games like genshin where I played for 2 years and I don't have an onset er sands even though I was a slave coming back each day, to spend my resins and still don't have it.
Still no anemo % gob on desert pavilion- farmed for months BTW.
I was managing 3 account and all had same problem, all my character were missing something.
I can keep going but, it is what it is.
Not trying to say that echo are god sent and game changing, they are shit, I agree on that.
Had to grind 3 days, until I ran out of them for 3 different enemies.
But what did I achieve?? Got 67:268 ratio on changli and that's all I am gonna farm.
It ended in 2 days.
While that's the opposite for other hoyo games , where even hsr and gemshin have shittiest relic system I have ever faced.
Ah, I yapped a lot, my bad.
@@imperial_7776mathematically speaking genshin only has 10 substats and wuwa has 13 so Wuwa is harder to farm, people just make up for it by no lifeing overworld echoes
as someone who enjoys both zzz and wuwa, watching these people fighting over pointless things is absolute entertainment. Both games are in the top of the chart. They both have found success and the only thing different is one number is bigger than the other which only impacts the company and not the consumer. I like that there is competition but the competition (in my humble opinion) should be between the companies rather than the playerbase in order for both to keep improving their games.
WuWa needs to hurry up and come out on the ps5 already. Game runs like ass on a phone unless it's the high end ones and no I aint buying no fucking $900+ phone for a f2p game.
🤣people making so many excuses for wuwa but they dont even criticize the real problem with wuwa which is they have too much focus on combat and not the casual stuff. player retention is just bad because people arent invested. forcing story on people inevitably makes people more invested
We can all agree that Love and Deepspace (Daddy Sylus) will take over the gacha! 😁🤣🥵
The community has themselves to blame
before wuwa release every single video had negative comments
The game didn't outright eos on arrival and actually made good money so now people who liked this game finally had the chance to clap back
But they too took it too far and are reaping what they sowed
The worst part is that this is gacha community we're talking about so none of these people will learn anything and the cycle will continue
now everyone is FINANCIAL advisor in Gacha Comment section lmaoooo
Treading water takes effort. Wuwa naturally dropped from 45 to 30-35. Hoyo increased from 160 to 170. If Hoyo did nothing they wouldn't just retain 160.
I will say is that WuWa is a terrible *mobile* game
It’s a good game on PC but on mobile? LOL LMAO EVEN. Yeah try playing optimally on a phone that’s a couple years old and without any third party accessories/controllers.
WuWa is a good game on PC but a terrible Mobile game.
its extremely infuriating on how little kuro puts care into the mobile port, especially when it apparently has the biggest gacha market.
i would rather say "uncomplete mobile game" than straight up terrible because I use a pretty old-ish phone, to be specific i use an [infinix 7 note] and it seems to work properly. now lets talk about zzz, I cant even download the game cuz i don't have a better phone. now you can call me a shill i got no problem with that but you cant just say a game is terrible just cuz some people cant play it properly with early 2015 phones.
@@chinkyflahz well i wasnt just talking about how it runs in the phone. but the mechanics of the game which favors PC users heavily.
the default aim speed is wayy too sensitive. because they just put the same sensitivity as the PC. they didnt even see if it was reasonable
(stuff like the bird mini game doesnt use your adjusted aim sensitivity too)
plus the grapple hooks are legit wayy too tight to use on mobile.
Game plays like shit even on an S23 ultra. It's likely why its sales in China aren't that high. China are primarily mobile gamers.
Oh yeah, I cant imagine playing Wuwa on mobile. Between heavy action combat and performance (and visuals not hitting when downgraded) it must be a terrible experience.
On mobile I can 100% agree Wuwa would be way worse then ZZZ.
WuWa has issues. Biggest for me is the main progression in WuWa. Taking user level 60 to max out a character and the echo being extremely resource extensive. If they just allowed level 1 echoes to level up echoes this will fix 1 issue. But yeah, having a bunch of echoes to reroll but with no level up mats it's pointless to do.
It's genuinely insane there is a worse gacha community than Genshin's. These WuWa creatures are a whole different breed, entirely...
Cope more hoyo clown
WuWa players are 80-90% ex-genshin players
Imagine saying "worse gacha community than genshin"😂
Theres still no VA harassment, torturing cats, assasination attempt, mass 1 star on unrelated app in PlayStore, etc.
Meanwhile Wuwa community get called toxic just because:"My game is better than yours" LMAO.
Idk man, scrolling over these comments and on pokke's livestream chat, almost all of them are bashing wuwa.. wuwabots, kurobots, deadgame etc.. surely zzz community is so healthy and full of innocent people right..
@@Kramer8 You're right, it was an overstatement, to say the least. I do definitely think they've had the worst behavior since Wuthering Waves' launch, though.
I know that the thumbnail says" Rank 1 ZZZ F2P BTW" but I read it as "rizz F2P BTW"
I play all 4 games, saying that genshin is shit its fair cause lack of QOL and overall gameplay loop, but shitting on ZZZ because you are mad at mihoyo its way too disingenuous 😂
In a world where HoYoshills and Kurobots are tarnished, Love and Deepspace alone is the honored one.
Why people surprised when WuWa doesn't make as much money as hoyo games?
From how the banner in WuWa works its already obvious it's not gonna make as much money: Guaranteed limited weapon banner, No 5 star weapon in Character banner, Less pity and better drop rates.
And also everybody get at least 3 different 5 star char of their choosing at the beginning of the game, and a 5 star weapon in lvl 45 so people can just use their standard pulls on the weapon banner (you can choose the weapon that you want guaranteed).
The 5 star weapon is pretty good too so less people are going to pull for the limited weapon.
(I forgot to mention you can also share weapon in WuWa so if your main DPS is Jiyan, Jinhsi, And Calcharo for example you only need 1 5 Star Broadblade for your 3 teams lol)
Exactly , wuwa has far better drop rates and let’s not even talk about the weapon banner
Honestly I think Pokke looks at the Hoyo numbers on Twitch, realizes that he will lose money if he keeps covering Wuwa.
@@Bakemer94 fair
@@iCHRIS-x "Let's not even talk about the weapon banner"
Me:"Proceeds to add more comments talking about the weapon banner"😂
@@Bakemer94 Really? I don't watch twitch but I guess there is not much to do in Wuwa right now except echo farming and using stamina, hopefully they added a new event soon. I just got to UL 60 today so I'm still enjoying it tho
Mtashed believes if he doesn't get a trillion views on the video the game is unfun to watch.
NA needs to fix their gacha community 😢
All regions are just deranged EN is just unbearable because we can understand each other
Well its the larger hardcore gacha community that is mainly the problem. The ones at r/gachagamer
Don't worry man
CN is worse
Yeah man true (I’m the problem)
Masterful move to create even more drama Pokke.
Hoyo zzz community continues to make me laugh with their double standards and hyppocrisy. Wuwa lives rent free in their minds. Now they got exposed and playing the victkm card.
Kurobots are funny asf, ZZZ is living rent free in your brainless heads 😂, i mean i get it, you have too much space in your head so you just stuck all of those hate towards ZZZ and ride Kuro's poor sausage 😂
@@User_2024-9 Hoyobots are funny af, obsessed with Wuwa, living rent free, can't stay off Wuwa. Now go back to barking, hoyo doggy lmao, and ride Hoyo's poor sausage bahahah
Kurobots attacked virtually every single ZZZ CC or even CC's making ZZZ content including wholesome and drama free folks like Ashikai and IWTL gaming.
@@killergangxd8178Those were genshit stans. Stop lying
funny that you say that... because you can just go to any video about wuwa and you'll see one of the top comments talk about hoyo games or video about zzz and see wuwa players talk about their game for literally no reason.
bruh, hoyo is pretty much living rent free inside wuwa players head 😂
btw stop using your bunch of alt to comment because you're too insecure to use your real account, cus this is just pathetic man.
Idk why everyone mad about wuva revenue, there was almost no content for the most of this month so the dropoff is deserved. I actually more excited that pgr revenue is rising every month despite saving patches
I feel MrPokke slowly become MrDrama
Bro should just drop wuwa n any kurogames games if u dont like it tbh...at least i could just watch ur HSR content not a overpraising ZZZ content
Me playing both HSR and Wuwa: "I play both sides so I always come out on top"
To be honest WUWA started to bore me i don't feel enjoy grinding in the game although echo is farmable overworld but not echo EXP and tuners and it exhausting to do this daliy. While HSR just auto farm relics without getting exhausted everyday. It's limited daliy but enough to satisfy me. And i play HSR since launch without complaint about it.
I was going to say that the comment section was pretty tame and I was recovering my fate in the community until i got to the bottom comments and saw the shills lmao, fuk this shit imma drop both games and download love and deepspace
Omg vergil?
@@yatmo Omg Dazai?
@@GamcoVC Yes
People can't accept the fact that a game that they hate and expected to flop made it to top. LMAO.
Proceed to glaze and made a lot of excuses from their favorite game because their ego can't take it. 😆
Why does this reminds me of: why is my best character loses to worst gacha character by stats Out Of Context?
Playing WuWa for the challenging content.
Playing ZZZ for the one-handed challenge content.
Besides holograms, what challenging about this game ?
@@member.5290yup just well build anycharacter can finish TOA but jinshi or other stronger unit even easier 😂😂😂😂
@@member.5290 Facepalm, that's like saying on ZZZ other than Hollow Content what's more "challenging" about ZZZ.
Even MMORPG are like that lol, only certain end game becomes a challenge while Story,overworld are just a means of timegate,grind etc, are you new perhaps in RPG?
@@member.5290a lot of the events will be like Pgr where it's going to focus on you having well built teams
Holograms, tactical simulacra for example, illusive realm, Tower, (more leaked modes)
@@haruusami1831 i just asked question, because i played wuwa myself. Second, i dont say that zzz is a hardcore game, even the most hard content (hollow zero last stage) is a simulated universe, which mean u can get god seed and rush thru run easily
I've noticed theres more comments than likes in every gacha drama related video
average post in r/gachagaming