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@@egg1123 yeah, ust because they are problematic does not mean they arent youtube famous, as the problematic part makes even more people click his vids
I absolutely love the fact that Jazza handles this so professionally. He doesn’t just go out there and say “Oh, yeah Zach Is a liar” (or something like that) He watches his videos and states the good things and bad things. The patience this man has is unbelievable, though he still manages to make amazing videos. 🙂
Interestingly enough, I didnt click on this video for over a month bc I assumed it was clickbait for a collab w ZHC. Keep making good art and being honest and thank you for trying to keep other creators accountable
I really appreciate that you called yourself out too. It takes a true, genuine person to do that when you could have easily ignored it and the people who would have brought it up. You could take the minimal accountability approach. You're a good honest person and a great artist Jazza, just wanted that out there in the world :)
Yes it’s nice that he called himself out but he is still doing all of the things ZHC is doing in terms of clickbait. It just isn’t working that well for him and I think it’s making him frustrated. I mean he uses ZHC name for views and then splits the video in two parts before even explaining his perspective to double engagement on his videos and encourage subscriptions. It’s honestly sad.
I used to watch ZHC years ago. I remember drooling at his incredibly detailed art. He was beyond Marvel comics level and now look where he is at. It is just sad that all this talent is being wasted just because to keep a high place in the TH-cam world
He wasnt beyond Marvel comics level. His art looked exactly like someone else’s art, David Finch. With a few elements that looked weird. i also admired his art but once he stopped making those videos David Finch had just created a channel with very useful tips. And from there I discovered other incredible artists like Jim Lee. From there I didnt consider ZHC as good as I thought he was.
Money. I get it. I'm a bookseller but I fell out of love and no longer enjoy it reading etc. I almost hate it, the customers are horrible and I worked for 10 years a little over 10€/hour. And if some dumb work will get me much more money than that I do it. Honestly, if another dumb job will get me money that I can spend on my hobbies or not worry about food at the end of the month I'm here for it. I'll do all the Clickbait fake Car stuff. Good for him.
@@CorinaShaHe really isn’t, though. He’s decent. As others have pointed out, he aped his entire art style, wholesale, from comic artist David Finch, and it’s pretty obvious he taught himself to draw solely by looking at Dave Finch’s art. It’s impressive at a glance, but it’s all style and no substance, and the style isn’t even his. Very weak fundamentals, thinly masked by professional looking shading techniques. The dude can draw, to be sure, and to be able to imitate one of the best guys to ever do it at the age of 18 is truly impressive, but he’s still just aping one well known artist, and that’ll only take a person so far. There’s a reason he’s living the Smurf life instead of breaking into comics. He has nothing to say with his art. He’s a poser.
I appreciate that instead of just saying how you feel about ZHC, youre putting in a lot of research to understand and explain why you feel that way. To me it doesn't matter what the topic is, if you're going to have a firm opinion you should research and be able to explain why. So I really appreciate that, can't wait for part 2
Me too but this is all the fault of Mr beast ever since Zhc started hanging around him and doing stuff too lick his boot ig Mr beasts traits sticked too Zhc and he became another clickbaiter ik this because other people have also called out Mr beast like his ex camera mans
I feel like zach went from a super cool artist who's so talented and had an older fan base, to a still talented but cringy artist who has a mainly kid audience.
i think that this is fair and i think it’s fair that Jazza is taking a break and actually contacting Zach about this kinda stuff so they can talk about it. and the fact that he talked about it in such a respectful way has my respect, thanks jazza for putting all the info right here for us. i think it’s a smart choice to spilt it into two videos. :)
ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear erin
@ no. He has a lot of cotent and this video actually took a lot of time to make alone. Part 2 will consume even more time. So this video was planned and executed well
Yeah, and Jazza is treading lightly because he’s aware and acknowledges that the things he’s “exposing” ZHC for are all just a more extreme version of things Jazza himself has done. In fact the comments here talk about things that ZHC has done that are way worse than what Jazza chose to talk about
Honestly Jazza is an amazing guy, he doesn't let temptation get to him. He's seen how much ZHC has grown, but ZHC isn't entirely honest (or as Jazza likes to say, ZHC is influenced by youtube), and instead of seeing that progress, he sees the ethicality. I admire that.
There was a giveaway on his Twitter, saying the most liked reply won £100 or something. I had the most likes and never got anything, tried to contact and nothing. He then says he paid the wrong person and left it like that oh well ahha
Yeah I like his content, but I don’t really get the idea of all the contests for money because most likely those you tubers already have a lot of money. However, I am making assumptions, so my opinion shouldn’t be trusted
Welp... how can you pay a wrong person?? he should have also put a dead line since sometimes someone can simply over thrown another persons likes whàt a scammer
I think it is so cool you called yourself out in the process and were honest on how your content has also been clickbaity at times to appease the youtube algorithm Gods. But like you said and from reading other art TH-camrs' comments, getting success from stepping on others is a nasty thing to do. Thank you for dedicating your time to fully research and even go as far as giving him a chance to speak!
Jazza, thank you for making this video. In my opinion, (1) ZHC has been using extremely deceptive and dishonest tactics in his content which goes beyond clickbait; often the cost of items, as per your experience, are made up in order to inflate his content. I’ve noticed that in numerous videos (2)His content has rubbed the community the wrong way for the last 2-ish years especially because he also mistreated and mislead a few of our friends in this community. He is only using people for his own benefit without giving them due credit. (3) throughout the last 2 years, he has been neglecting safety measures, socializing, travelling, and all of the stuff so many of us were sacrificing. (4) AND more! We, in the art community, love it when we see each other succeed, this is a fact. Zach wants to flex, and step on others to get there. I also have been wanting to expose a few things, but I need others’ permissions to do so. This video is done in such a caring and concerned way, and I commend you for that. You truly are still the king of this community to us Jazza because you still do represent art and this community by giving back and paving the way for us. Although I know you’re hoping he would connect with you, I’m pretty sure that he’s too absorbed in this, and this is the path he will continue on since flexing is one of his main motivator. Again, nothing is wrong with wanting money, but the deception and misleading/using people is gross. (Edit: I really can’t stop watching the custom corn bit lol)
I read the entire comment that you have posted here and I just wanted to let you know: Thanks, it was a really fascinating and insightful read. Really makes you see other TH-camrs and members of the art community in a new light, which is definitely not what is shown on ZHC's channel currently.
When I found your channel recently (Jan 2023) I was so relieved to find a place where wholesome honest content still exists on TH-cam. Thank you for being an honest man, the world needs more of that. I appreciate your creations and passion!
@B_GUH Basically, it's a commentary on what the youtube algorithm encourages youtubers to be. What is happening with ZHC is ultimately something that has happened with a lot of youtubers.
@@SparkieNeisti when I searched him up, I was suprised to find I was subscribed to him. And then I realized I watched some of his art videos a REALLY long time ago. Goes to show how much of a completely different person he is now. I unsubscribed, btw, because he didn't have the content I respected anymore.
Regular TH-camrs when sponsored by Skillshare: "so this is a course that I really enjoy" Jazza when sponsored by Skillshare: "so this is MY latest class"
My mom has carpal tunnel and she makes crochet clothing and literally has to stop because the pain gets so intense. Sometimes she’ll complain and keep crocheting when the pain isn’t too bad but constantly drawing and doing hours of streaming while drawing is either being faked or unsafe for someone with that issue
Although Jazza spoke about real concerns regarding ZHC's content, what did he expose exactly? This video was just an observation on ZHC. Maybe in pt 2 we'll find out something about ZHC? Or will this be a video just for the clicks as well?
I'm glad you manage to walk the line between content creation and art creation while still staying as primarily art creation. Honestly love your videos and generally unfollow and unsubscribe to channels that just focus on clickbait. Thank you for your content and keeping it art focused. I love you and your channel
Most if not all of his videos are about customizing something, so technically he's still an art youtuber since all of his videos has an art piece in it
@@BitterJoyXx well I suppose that’s true. But it’s less about the art and more about what he customises and who he customises it for. That’s how I see it anyway. I suppose it’s a win win for his subscribers and him since both parties obtain something, but you get my point.
In my opinion as someone who enjoys watching art content, I could never get into ZHC's videos, they just felt off to me (no fault of his, I just enjoy watching art being created rather than giveaways etc.). Thank you for doing this video in such a respectful way! You are someone I look up to,and aspire to be as kind & patient as you. Thank you for all you do :)
I seen one of his videos pop up in my suggested the other day. Never watched him before, but the thumbnail tipped me off and I didn't click on it, and I tend to click on a lot of art vids. Even told YT to not show the cannel again, before Jazza even made his vid.
I remember watching ZHC at around 4k subs. I loved his content and his art skills were phenomenal, now don't get me wrong, he's still talented af but I feel like he targets his content towards kids now.
@@I.AM.SHADOW I was thinking the same thing. I thought maybe ZHC had a scandal or something. Don't get me wrong there negative aspects about him but nothing I would personally make a video over? Idk we will see what goes down in part 2
Its sad to watch this. I was never an actual fan or follower of Zach. But watching this video, it pains me to see how a young talented aspiring artist tried showing off his skill on the internet, and ultimately ended up being dragged into the dark hole of "content spew" that youtube fuels these days. Real passion for art, turnt into passion for money.
This is what happens when the "artists" think that art means you have to make money. None of these people would be doing it without the cash they make off of it and then we all waste our time wondering why the medium is so degenerative at this point. It's either for the passion or it's for the bag... it's never both, period. We don't need 5000 more artists to all line up and tell the same sob story about burn out for us to learn that.
late to the punch here, but it really does seem like in the earlier videos he was an artist that just so happened to do youtube, and not a youtuber who just so happened to make art, iykwim
No clue who that guy is nor the people he "fame chase" after mentioned in comments and in the video too but yeah one thing is aparant. He desperately went the typical trashpie route of spamming nonsense clickbait videos, paying for advertising and bots otherwise he would never have the watch data (numbers) he have today. The trend phase of genderism, weird attention seeking, calling upon a made up disability and related stuff is all present "oh feel sorry for me and give me money because I have bla bla bla" like it will justify all the other lies and nonsense content that he did before or after these type of "boohoo" contents. So many online did this and being exposed liars but most even contradict themselves with every video to the point that you don't even need to dig deep and investigate. I am genuenly surprised many of these don't get put into prison because they are basically scams and criminal acts. The trend and agenda feeding is present and he just tap into every trend there is far as I seen so far. Mind you all that alg is fake, aka projected and manufactured, they all collectively feeding the algorythm and it's all fake. It's not what people watch it's what people get exposed to through ads and clickbaits. At the end of day the only entity that makes huge amounts of money on this literary doing nothing is Google and corporations who monetize these all. The "content" creators do all the work and get chum change in return, hence why naively everyone with half a brain and no life will gladly start doing these for a living. So he is another sad puppet chasing vapor. Many ppl I know so did I been there in many partner programs and simply quit YEARS AGO this social media nonsense and "content creation" because actual content creators and creative people not only can't make a living but also can't even have any hobby based small communities because soon as you don't follow the "cult" you get backstabbed. It's too much wasted time and effort for nothing. It's toxic (harmful for you and others equally in billions of ways) and I leave it at that.
@@TheGreatKingChiba never both? not true. exact opposite. anyone who is “passionate” enough about art will want it to be their job as it’s something they enjoy. if they’re not currently earning anything, it’s because they don’t think they’re good enough, or they’re not promoting themselves properly. I mean do you think jazza has a “regular” job on the side? no. he’s passionate about his art AND does it to make money from it. why else would he post online? such an awful take. you’re trying to shame artists into thinking they shouldn’t make money from their art because you’ll think they’re money-hungry. honestly I wish I had the power to “banish” you from this space, you simply don’t belong here if that’s your attitude. and I’m not even going to entertain your comment about burn-out. it’s obvious you think artists are beneath you, you have ZERO respect for them. literally just go away.
I appreciate the fact the Jazza cares enough about ZHC that he is criticizing but in a kind way. Rlly shows true respect and is a great example in all aspects of life. If u think someone is doing something wrong, gently call them out for it and have a discussion. I’ve also noticed ZHC is pretty much just copying Mr. Beast but adds art into it
@@senink I said he was pretty much copying. Meaning there r a lot of similarities. He saw those types of vids helped Mr. Beast and is doing a form of piggy backing off of him. It’s a norm think for creators to do, but doesn’t rlly make it right.
@@gabe4037 doesn't make it wrong either. Everyone does what they gotta do to get by and stay relevant since humans nowadays have the shortest attention spans. we all judge but never step in other's shoes.
@@rosanagutierrez1640 I understand where u r coming from. I’m not hating on ZHC. I’m simply stating my personal opinion. I know that the world is very judgmental, being an art major has definitely taught me that. I believe if u disagree with another’s actions you can voice it in a mature way. And just Bc u disagree doesn’t mean u disagree with every single thing someone says/ does
I really miss his old content. Of course he can change and evolve, but I feel like he's almost DEvolved. The comic style videos of his inspired me so much, now I can't even watch any of his videos without getting a bad taste in my mouth
Jazza had a bit of a phase like that and I was so happy when he released a video talking about it. Now I really enjoy his content again. I would home ZHC does the same eventually
Me too. I user to love his old content, I thought the comic book style was so cool and I strived to draw like that but then I saw the first "I customized" video and I haven't watched a single one since. I've been meaning to unsubscribe because I'm just so disappointed in the turn he decided to take.
Normally I'm not a fan of these "calling out" videos, but this one is rightfully deserved. I'm a fledgling artist. Nowhere near the best but I'm learning every day andbtrying new mediums. That's why I like Jazza's channel so much. You see legit pieces of art, even if the prompt or medium borders on absurd. Channel's like ZHC are a product of the new age of youtube where the biggest creators post 99% click bait and the "art" takes a backseat
Jazza is a chill dude, so this isn't a dRaMa video like a lot of them are. He's just calmly explaining the issues. That's most of what I like about it.
Honestly I really appreciate that you give us exactly what you promise in the thumbnails. I hate when people use those just for click bait and its not even in the video.
I love how there is no dramatic opening. I love how he doesn't attack ZHC i love how he isn't too loud or too dramatic this is just Jazza making a bit more serious video. He is still funny and makes jokes even jokes on his address yet he did tone down it a bit so we understand that there is a clear problem we have to talk about
The weirdest thing to me is that I knew this guy in high school, he was in my art class and swim team, and was a really quiet and nice dude that just sat in the back of the room and doodled. It’s weird looking at him now knowing what he used to be edit for more info: i remember he would always be working on a comic or personal project during class time and would forget to do assignments bc he really loved drawing specifically in one style only so the teacher would have to come and remind him to work on whatever project was going on at the time (his art was super good even as a junior, i was always hella impressed whenever i walked by) and it wasn’t like he was rude to authority or bombastic like he is now, was a pretty polite and nice guy
Thanks for this! Just finished part 2 as well. As an art teacher, I’ve stumbled across zhc before looking for interesting demos, and thought those vids seemed odd for an art channel. Now I know why!
The amount of times Zach has deceived his followers and the art community without putting himself at fault for doing so is too many to count. I really respect Jazza for taking such an in-depth approach to this instead of going in guns blazing like most of us would have out of anger. Thank you Jazza, I think my respect for you has doubled and I didn’t even know that was possible
Watching Zac is like watching a young person getting corrupted by money, and fame, and I am only few years older. I used to watch him, before he got into flexing.
i came across this video not knowing what ZHC even was. i was bingeing jazza videos because i love how they focus on the true spirit of art for me. doing art for art's sake. exploring different mediums, learning about the process, and most importantly just having fun! this is what made me subscribe to jazza, so jazza i just want you to know that that's a type of subscriber you have that zhc doesn't.
I agree that it definitely changed the tone of art content on here a lot. I get why some things seem yucky too. Though just to point out I also had carpal tunnel that was debilitating for a short period but much better now, sometimes I do get tinges but it can heal.
@@stuffing202 Actually my physio said to completely rest it when it flared up because I was overusing it. After some treatments it stopped hurting. I only get it if I draw for too long etc then I take a day to let it chill and that seems to work.
Yeah I got carpol tunnel from marching band but with the proper brace and rest, I got over it in about two or three weeks, which given recording to upload time for certain videos seems doable.
I think Jazza was saying that it healed too quickly since it was only mentioned in one video and then never again. He mentioned it should have taken days to heal.
That's the best thing about Jazza. He goes with quality over quantity. Quality art, quality creativity, quality fun, quality entertainment, quality personality. He is so genuine and is motivated by his love of art and his love for his community. It's so refreshing.
its actually been my dad lol he used to make those coloured popcorn you can but at home and it always tasted pretty good. havent had it in a couple years tho
ZHC wrote me out of nothing, that he likes my graffiti. hahahah - his content is really extremely fast, and maybe I am more an oldschool guy, but if he is happy with that, all cool. I think it is possible to be happy even with so much money, he always throws around. I think, the more different his content is, the less of your community has to choose if they want to see his or your video, when both are in suggestions. I am looking forward to Part2! Big up from Germany 🇩🇪
I love your content! Found you via Ten Hun art collab. Which was a true collaboration. I’m glad you didn’t work with ZHC. Keep being an amazing person!
Every once in a while Jazza puts out a video like this, renewing my sense of respect for Jazza as a person. The last one was his noticing the critical review of his content heading in a direction he didn’t want, giving him a wake up call. I truly wish the world had more people like Jazza, with value centered on integrity
I definitely agree. Im not at the point where i watch every video he makes anymore but who jazza is as a person always bring me back. The art has changed, youtube has changed, even the basic way i view art has changed but it never feels like the morals have changed, at least never for the worse.
@@SentinalSlice The last one I remember? not really, I just remember he was talking about how he saw his channel starting to go in a direction that he wouldn't be proud of, and immediately after we saw his video go ina different, more Jazza direction
I like this a lot. Not undeservingly negative to him, but highlighting how youtube's algorithm is inhospitable for natural creative cycles and community as a whole. Respect that the player knows what he's doing, but criticizing the game through the lens of his content.
We should also criticize the player because those are the people who are actually using TH-cam and doing this clickbait shit. They cannot avoid their own responsibility. And of course, the people who watch this stuff are also at fault.
As a fellow Aussie and artist, I’ve always admired Jazza. I honestly didn’t expect him to make a video like this but it definitely feels right. It feels like it was supposed to happen
I remember seeing a ZHC video randomly on my feed where him and MrBeast customized a house and gave it away to a homeless person, I think the artwork is nice but one thing that made the people in the comments really uncomfortable is that ZHC painted him and Jimmy's face in the wall with their logos, it was like reminding the new people who will live there "oh we painted this house for you, you owe us all your gratitude."
mrbeast looks to genuinely care about the homeless and less fortunate; he even runs his own food banks 24/7, and has gotten rid of many of his material possessions. zhc, however, only is really shown throwing his cash into stuff like teslas, gucci, and mansions. hes like mrbeast but the cash got to him
I started following him around the 40k mark and eventually would stop following him once he started putting out a bunch of giveaways which was still early days for him.
Yeah no shit, it's a house. You would wear a corporate logo like a tool for a few grand a month but don't want famous people who actually increase value of property on it? That sounds more like ungratefulness than forced gratitude.
Agreed... Mr Beast is great but the thing is, Mr Beast was unique and you can't really fault him for making the videos that he does because he might as well have created that genre of TH-cam, but ZHC's videos have just taken such a massive plunge imo... I always hate to be that guy, but I miss his old content
The difference between Jazza and Zach is that Jazza acknowledges his mistakes and clickbait- and whenever he notices it, he always tries to correct himself and take a break on TH-cam to give us the best content. Zach on the other hand, just makes a joke about it and tends to “give” to more popular creators that don’t really need it. I love the way Jazza explained it and how he tried to be as objective as possible, while still calling Zach out on his behavior
I’m an artist with carpal tunnel. I’ve had it for over ten years. I can’t draw detailed drawings for longer than maybe an hour or so without pain and unfortunately now my hand will go numb. This is one reason why I prefer painting. Less tension on my hands. So seeing this is eyebrow raising 😅
@@bluesetise No, it does not go away, but there are ways to prevent it from happening. Typically it occurs when your wrists are constantly at a bent position for long periods of time, so it doesn’t happen overnight. Mine occurred because of my sleep position. I use to sleep with my hands tucked and wrists bent underneath my chin. So the doctors gave me wrist splints that restrained me from bending my wrists at night. There are other ways it can occur, but that’s how I got it. There are treatments that can be done at the chiropractor to alleviate the tension. Being more aware and making sure you keep your wrist from being in a stationery bent position for long periods of time will prevent it, as well as taking breaks and resting your hands and wrists. There is also a surgery that some people get when it gets to the point where the numbing starts to occur. But the surgery is very risky so I did not want to take that chance.
That carpel tunnel bit drives me fucking mad because my dad, a few years back, had to get carpel tunnel surgery in both his wrists, including his left elbow, and has to wear wrist braces to bed often to this day. He experiences extreme pain in both of his hands still, and has struggles with grip strength where he drops items often. No pain medicine has worked for him thus far, and he’s kept opiates at a 10 foot pole for a myriad of reasons I don’t think I’ll have to explain. Seeing ZCH using this as a way to get clicks and clout is absolutely infuriating.
May I suggest your dad look into dry needling? My L5-S1 disc exploded. It is the only thing that has actually helped. My cousin hard severe carpel tunnel from years of typing. She's had the surgery and also does dry needling therapy. It is almost the same as acupuncture preformed by a specialist Opioids are not an option for my cousin or me . 🙏🙏🙏
Words can’t truly describe how satisfied I am with someone finally touching on this topic, let alone, jazza, one of the biggest art channels on the site. I was a fan of Zach really early in his career, I remember him having less than 70k subs, I was fan mostly cause of his art style ( cause that’s what art channels really should be for ) and I guess he was quite entertaining sometimes as well (some of his old Reddit vids were actually really funny ) but when he slowly started growing after the pewdiepie shoutout, his unique cool art style started gradually fading away from his channel, which was kind of disappointing but he was still making quality content, now, his personality is just painful to watch and an actual artistic talent seems to be sometimes no where to be found in his vids ( so much so I actually do forget how amazing of an artist he is) and his clickbaity types of videos are obvious bait for views. Vexx, gawx and jazza remain superior, as actual art is being produced by the end of each video
100% accurate i forgot he even was an artist because his team makes most the art in his videos he maybe makes 7% of it. Thats just sad given how great he once was
My younger brother joined one of his art competitions on Instagram, along with lots of other people and the winner was supposed to get a gift or something. That competition was never mentioned ever again in any of his videos.
What's crazy is I used to follow Zach when he was in college. He was a humble boy in his dorm going live occassionally to draw and he even brought me up on his panel. Before he started youtube. We encouraged him to start it and once he took off he felt like a completely different person. More money hungry and deciving.
He found a way to make his videos viral ! And got money from his content what’s wrong with with that !! Every artists join social media for money 💰 and once something blow up they keep doing the same style and stay in that box
With you bro. I think no one should try and tell others what to do I mean look at jazza truly trying to get views cause zhc is a big youtuber you know jazza .uk so disappointed in you bro I never really liked you but now? Now I hate you
@@noureenjaved1512 jazza has worked with zhc and was one of the main people that built the art community. Him making a video about zhc has nothing to do with clout and has everything to do with Zhc clout chasing
My son, who was around 7-8 years old then, showed me Jazza’s channel when he was into drawing (he’s 14 now). We would watch his videos before we go to bed as bonding time. I was watching a vid from Sarah Clark’s channel earlier and her collab with Jazza. Long story short, we rediscovered our love for Jazza. Can’t believe I just subscribed today. Jazza, you’re integrity is awesome. Don’t stop being you!
@ LeEpicGaymer Don’t know about the rest (coming from a 12 year old turning 13 next month) I’ve always hated clickbait channels, I don’t like a lot of the popular people
I got diagnosed with carpal syndrome, and beginning rheumatism due to excessive use of my hands about 20 years ago, after many many years of excessive sewing work. I stopped all sewing work for 10 years, while I also supported both wrists with supporters, and pretty much didnt lift anything, didnt do anything of fine details, or straining of my wrists. That worked. I no longer have any pain, no symptoms. I started slowly up with drawing, a little sewing, some yarn work. Now I can draw for many many many hours, with no problems. I can sew and lift, use scissors in hours. I learned my lesson, so when my joints or fingers starts aching, I take a break for a couple of days. And best of all, I no longer just randomly drop stuff because my fingers or hands suddenly lose all function. I used to just drop stuff, like pick up a glass of water, and simply just drop it on the floor... and peeps thought I was clumsy or an idiot :D And young folks who like to do stuff with your hands... be careful, take breaks, and plan days of rest for your hands. You need them for many years to come
I do artwork I like to dabble in many mediums. Mainly claywork, drawing, and sewing. I have this job where I have to write hundreds of letters every week. My hand starts to hurt after about 300 sometimes way earlier than that. Do you think it's worse to do more all in one day and then rest up for days later or to do break it up and have to write every day with less being done? My mom has carpal tunnel and really bad rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis. She had breast cancer and now has to take medicine that weakens her bones and makes it even worse. It really sucks :/
I had an issue pop up with my thumb on Christmas Day driving home. It burned to use my thumb while driving and I had an hour and a half to go. I have had it in a thumb immobilizing brace for over a month now and I am using it less now and having some pain still but I can't play the new Pokemon game on my switch with the brace on 😭. I can play for a while and then it hurts again. Never had that problem untill Christmas.
Thank you for that, I tend to overwork myself and I love doing crafty things, sewing, drawing, and now I want to try diamond painting, knittting, embroidery, cross stitch and more! Things that makes my hands busy gives me a peace of mind
"due to excessive sewing work". wtf. fuck me man. stopped drawing, stopped taking hand notes (mostly typing and that's been decreased significantly now) and decided to get into sewing. most of my hobbies use my hands and eyes. ugh. Now I need to be extra careful. thank you for sharing your experience. inadvertently warned me since I didn't even consider it could hurt my hands since I'm just learning
@@ggundercover3681 look for neuroplastic pain here on utube and RSI Jhon e sarno. Worked for me. I don't do those stuff anymore and I don't hurt any more. I was on the edge of an intervention but two weeks later i was totally Simptom free till to day i use my hands more than ever and I don't hurt any more. Hope this help u two
I used to faithfully watch jazza and ZHC I was addicted to both, I stopped watching ZHC because I personally felt he went from art to just trying to be a "big youtuber". Stay how you are jazza I absolutely love the videos and you are the reason I do art and am so in love with it.
Okay like, as someone that had a terrible art related injuries and it took me 2 YEARS to be able to pick up a marker again, I am mad. there is no way that he could draw for hours after that injury.
not defending ZHC but i think it could vary from person to person, for me the worst that happens is that my wrist hurts and I take a day off, but i tend to draw for just a few hours
@Ashvith Shetty 100%- I think it’s RUINED our society (yeah I know I’m in the few that think that- but I do) - we are not better for it and people have survived just fine without it
I'm an amateur photographer, multimedia artist, crafter, and hard-core gamer. I also have carpal tunnel in both wrists and two fingers on my left hand I haven't been able to feel in the last 10 years. Personally I am far more likely to work in night braces, pop over-the-counter painkillers to the equivalent of prescription strength, modify my movement if I have to, and ache for weeks for my craft than set down what I love for so much as a few days. ZHC wasn't in any kind of brace that would restrict wrist movement which is what severe carpal tunnel needs. It barely covered his wrist, is only helpful for the most mild cases of carpal tunnel, and in truth was better suited for a sprain. I don't have words for how angry I was when he came out with that video. After it I blocked his channel because all he makes this clickbait and I'm not willing to feed it.
I feel the same. My kid loves him, and my breaking point with it was in the video of them painting the high school they kept making fun of fat people like "ew don't make me look fat!". Imagine how the larger kids at that school, who probably already have low self esteem because kids are assholes, feel when this cool guy is saying things like that. My kid also loves Unspeakable, and I definitely feel icky about his obvious money-lust and fancy stuff drive.
That's.. pretty gross for him to say. I used to watch some of ZHC's videos and quite frankly I felt that there was something off. I stopped watching him, and now I come back to him doing these 5000 dollar "best art wins" challenges with his friends. It just feels.. bad.
yes my younger siblings are the same(little brother has grown out of it a bit but my little sister hasn't really) my parents to try and put some perimeters and i try to recommend some less hedonistic channels but it doesn't ever quite catch on. i hope she'll grow out of them soon, it's sad how the algorithm kinda traps kids like this:/
i stopped watching him after his like 8th video of painting a phone. he is wasting art supplies and expensive products to use as a "hey i have money and can do art!", which isn't bad but when I'm a kid who loves art and don't have much money, it hurts. now, i love looking at amazing art and i dont shame people who have money but he just rubs the art and money so much is hurts my heart and makes me have low sel esteem. he is one of the only people to make me feel this way, that when you know he is doing something hurtful to an art community and children.
"I am a filthy Liar, but also a father" I can feel my respect for this man growing faster than me clicking on the subscribe button when I realized I was not actually subscribed to this channel.
As someone who can no longer draw because my hands are messed up from chemo, the carpel tunnel stuff made me so angry. Thank you Jazza for pointing out the suspiciousness
I hope you find another way, there was a student in my high school who painted with their mouth, they took the WHOLE YEAR to make a painting. separated into manageable squares, and they got better and it was lovely. Better than lots of my stuff and I did go to art school after. :)
if art is your passion, find a way to create it. i say this as someone who has tried to pursue other, more profitable careers while shunning their passion (writing, for me), and please dont give up on it. there are so many ways to create, you could try your hand at digital art. i dabble sometimes, and i dont mean like with a stylus, i mean like pirating photoshop and just fucking around until you create something. of course, it wont have the same *feeling* as physical drawing does, but its something at least. just, dont give up on it, please. it breaks my heart everytime to hear people have given up on their passions, even in the face of unwaivering odds and cirumstances.
LMAO BRO, actually fucking love that moment jazza went "youtuber" moment, even tho its not you guys, it would be fun to watch you guys do it it ironically every now and then, absolutely loved the mature and good person jazza is turn into an actual youtuber XD
toatally agree. i used to watch him for his tutorials in the beginning. But than kindof forgot about his channel and unsubbed back in 2017. Never looked back.
Personally, as an art nerd, I have crazy respect for ZHC and his hussle, but his new videos don’t feel like they are targeted at art nerds who wanna see the actual process involved. He is pushing marketable content, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It just doesn’t appeal to me.
Agreed miss seeing his old content, where he showed his personality, now he’s just copying Mr. Beast, nothing wrong with it, but he’s lost his personality in the background
I'll be totally honest, I didn't know who ZHC was before watching this and I'm glad. TH-cam can be such a cesspool of negativity, but the art community has always been a beacon of light. Jazza, Miniac, ADCArtAttack and countless others are where my wife and I go for feel good videos and to enjoy wonderful art. Keep fighting the good fight.
2:56 this zhc esque montage had me LMAO! I don't watch much art related videos on yt but the stuff I do watch is mostly yours. The reason I know what a zhc video looks like is cause I watched one a lil while back and it didn't even feel art related...blech. Imma be honest too: I can see that you're really good at what you do and that you... sometimes... do your projects sub par. But, knowing that your content is actually real art related stuff and that you try to put out enough content to keep your viewers happy while still keeping the content top notch, I'm 110% ok with the projects not always being as good as I know you could make them if you spent more time on them. In summary, you're doing everything right and keep up the good work!✌🏼👍🏼🔥
Jazza I love that you called yourself out rather than have people find out and feel lied to. Being open and honest about things is really commendable and I like how you aren't trashing this TH-camr and are being open and honest about your full review even if it means throwing some shade at yourself if there is any shade to be had and leaving that opinion to the viewers. 👏👏👏👏
I don’t know but I feel like jazza is the cleanest, most polished, and widest variety of content of any art channel I’ve seen. Thanks for the awesome content
Always thought this video was supposed to be a silly collab so I never got round to it until now. Jazza handles this beautifully, but I expected nothing more from him ✨💅🏻
I used to follow ZHC art back when he did his comic art, when he was first starting out on TH-cam. But I did see the shift, and he slowly lost my interest. The clickbait thumbnails and over-the-top challenges he would partake in wasn’t the same grounded personality he once was. I hope that this conversation Jazza has with him allows him to see how deep he’s fallen into the publicity hole that is youtube. Maybe Jazza can fish him back out. Set him back on track. One can only hope.
Lol 😆 it’s all about target market. ZHC target market when he started out was other beginner artists, so he started out like most other art youtubers would. Beginner artists that actively look for detail art tutorial and tips is minuscule compare to the mass audience who are looking for purely entertainment rather than actual proper boring art tutorials. He realized this along the way and made the switch and turned himself into an artist version of Mr. Beast that focuses on purely entertainment which appeal to mass market. So of course his early subscribers who sub to him for art related content will find his content unrelatable and clickbaity. He’s doing very very well with this current strat and I don’t see any reason why he would go back to making art tips and piss off his mass market audience.
I think it's nice to see Jazza give feedback and criticize ZHC's current content, especially considering Jazza went through a similar period himself where he was making content to get views, and losing his old touch (last year, see Jazza's "I don't like what I've become" video). Hopefully Zach takes this as constructive criticism :))) PS. Jazza, beard is looking FAB
Not to be rude to zhc. But there is a difference of lying about drinking alcohol or beads you used vs lying about a medical condition to gather attention. That is a line I'm glad you never crossed.
He'd still have problems with his wrist even today if he had severe enough carpel tunnel to quit making art, which tells you he either didn't have carpel tunnel syndrome, or it was such an insignificant problem that it went away within a couple of days. Both in which are completely possible, but I think we know which one it was. Lying about medical issues to garner attention is about as low as you can get.
Carpel Tunnel also doesn’t just go from fine to sudden attack like that horrible acting job in the video. It’s a constant ache that gets worse when you start doing activities that aggravate it.
I’m watching this in 2023 and remembering that I used to watch Zhc back when he was painting iPads and iPhones during the hype house era and I’ve never gone back because it became so repetitive, I also used to watch jazzy, Rae, and drawing with waffles, but recently I’ve started watching those three art TH-camrs again because they are so authentic and realistic as people
I liked zhc for his art but then he started throwing money at everything. It wasnt even about art anymore. It was just about how expensive something could get and it just took away the magic of his drawings. The objective is money now with him, not art from within. It was a great business move on his part tho.
I felt the same too, it wasn't about the art anymore but flexing how the could get certain expensive items to customize them and no longer about doing a good piece. Let alone he drew mostly on pencil before and he never went too deep into the craft community so he didn't really make customs that interesting (for example instead of using clay to completely transform airpod cases to look like enchanted treasure chests he just made simple grafitti on all of them).
Hey, Jazza- I know nothing about ZHC before this- but I can tell you as someone who has carpal tunnel in both wrists, and had carpal tunnel surgery on my right hand (primary) there’s no way he has carpal tunnel. I’m not a medical expert but I’ve had real experience with it. I couldn’t hold a marker for more than a couple of minutes at its worst- let alone do 24 hours or even hour-long drawing. Either he never had carpal tunnel, made a miraculous recovery, or is in on something hard so he feels nothing. This is insulting to people who actually suffer from this. I’m not saying that carpal tunnel is on a level like cancer or something life-threatening, but it is something you struggle with constantly- day and night- and it sucks.
As a med student, I fully agree. I'm thinking more ganglion cysts, they hurt like a bitch and are incapacitating but only for like two days tops and then they leave as soon as they came, but they can come back if triggered. Drawing can be a trigger and so even then, there's no way he could pull a 24 hour-long drawing. Now, carpal tunnel? I think it's more probable he got misdiagnosed or he just straight up lied... and it's actually really hard to misdiagnose a carpal tunnel.
@@jmicolm Exactly! Like you said, it’s hard to misdiagnose. For me, they used electrodes to zap my arm and measure the delay caused by the carpal tunnel. I think each of my arms were 12+ milliseconds of delay. It’s easy for them to tell if you have it or not.
When I hard CT, I could draw for about 4 hours max and even then I would be in debilitating pain. The healthy max was about two hours. And that's catching it EARLY. If it was discovered late, there would be NO WAY lol
@@jlryan2011 I had the same tests done- not as bad as I was expecting from people talking about it, lol. The needles were worse than the zaps! Mine turned out to be cubital tunnel though, not carpal- it was my elbow! Had surgery to fix it and now I get numbness, but no more pain.
Totally agree. I gave up on a carreer as an artist, because I get tendonitis every time I start to draw regularly. The decision was a friggin heartbreaking one and this dude disrespects everyone with actual injuries by claiming to have one for clickbait. What a brat.
To be honest, I really enjoyed Zac’s content. His “old” or “middle” content before the content that seems “flashy”, for lack of a better term. I still enjoy his old videos and some of his new ones (selectively, for lack of a better term), and I’ll admit I did find some things he spoke about odd (especially that spider-sona bit in the video). But I still like the art he made in it. Now it seems like whenever I look at his videos and the thumbnails, they just don’t seem “appealing” anymore. And the videos themselves just aren’t what they used to be anymore. I really miss the art challenges he did.
There was a point in his career where he started to clout chase more. Some of the videos later on when he was trying to generate views he'd add Pewdiepie, MrBeast, Markiplier etc in the search tags even if the video has 0 to do with them. It just feels icky AF
I loved ZHC man, but I stopped watching him when he started with the giveaways. Not too long ago I actually saw a video of his pop up again and I was surprised they were the same person
well your not wrong.. but, he does it in his own way, through his talent, he uses not only giving things away but also uses his art to make people happy. just like mr beast zach has changed so many peoples lives, like the hospital video where he gives away money, and help people pay their medical bills. to me zach is a legend in his own way.
14:53 "that has got to be the quickest recovery to a heavily broadcast serious injury I've ever seen" I've seen some TH-camrs bounce back from death in their next daily upload...
Serious respect to Jazza for giving ZHC a fair shake and for identifying the places where he himself has pandered to the mighty algorithm. I'm also really proud of how Jazza's stayed true to his passions and built his brand/business while also building up the art community. And as a fellow dad, it's great to see that he makes time for his family even when it means passing on certain other opportunities.
This first sentence is true . i actually had this idea that jazza kinda does that in his videos as i was watching this video , but when he started admitting that at some videos he wasn't as "truthful" , i stopped and clapped for him .
I remember watch ZHC in his early years, he was the reason I wanted to draw more and such. I learned a lot of anatomy from him and it was just great. I haven’t watched him in a long time
As an artist who has a similar injury to what he was describing, I'd like to share my experience. I honestly can't label what I have, I've been to about 8 doctors total (2 orthopedics, 2 nerve doctors, 1 nerve surgeon, 1 pain doctor, 2 physical therapists) in no specific order, just sharing it for confirmation, also excuse any faulty labels I'm translating from my mother language. At some point I believed I had carpal tunnel, but through more doctor visits, more medical povs, and more tests and scans, we figured out it was a bit bigger than carpal tunnel. I'm saying this bec he might indeed be injured, but just believes a wrong label, I still don't believe his injury and I'll explain why in a bit. My hand problem does indeed stem from my neck, apparently bec I look down for so long (drawing, using my phone, studying, bad posture, etc) I have pulled muscles front and back and that caused me to lose my neck curve which is putting pressure on the nerves stemming out to my arms. My guess is that with the pressure plus the fact that I overworked myself drawing when the nerves were alr vulnerable I finally started getting symptoms. I've had pain in my hands that came and went for a few years but only when I overworked myself that it quadrupled and stayed, and only when I started relying on my left hand instead of my injured right that my left got bad as well. My symptoms are close to carpal tunnel and ulnar nerve syndromes combined, and some unique ones. Pain points are my wrist, knuckles, palm, back of hand, all fingers (not always at once), and if I push myself really bad I feel it in my forearm and sometimes my shoulder. I also got numbness and tingling. If he's talking about a doctor working on his neck/back then it could very much be similar to my case. However, I never get my symptoms so suddenly and intensely as he portrayed in his video. It's more of a nagging pain that gets worse over time and use, till I rest it. Sometimes I can feel the pain without using my hands, and sometimes when I feel bad emotionally. I've been injured since July 2020, it's still here. I had to stop drawing for months till the symptoms got manageable. And even now I can't draw for too long before I feel pain. It ranges tbh sometimes it's 40 minutes other times it's 2 hrs. 100 hrs is def not realistic to me. Even now just typing all this has triggered the pain. I just thought I'd share to provide some context to the injury part, surely every body reacts differently, but this whole injury thing just irks me.
I'm so sorry I hope it gets better! This seems like the kind of thing that would take a huge toll on you, specially bc of our society's productivity mindset (plus keeping you from your hobby) so I hope you are managing on that front too
I have a similar story. I have weird muscle tension stemming in my cervical spine and narrow cubital tunnel. Took years to get a diagnosis of carpal tunnel and ulnar nerve entrapment. It’s brutal sometimes. Thanks for sharing your story!
My late husband had similar issues & the more he'd use his limbs, the worse it would get. There was pain & numbness in his arms & sometimes his legs (he walked at least 12 miles every day so he used his legs more than a lot of people who have more office based careers). He finally got the tests I asked for when he started getting numbness in his arms/hands while driving. It turned out that the space his nerves traveled through was too small in one area for both the arms & legs. It was going to take 2 separate surgeries to widen those spaces. For the arms, they'd be going in through the neck &, since his arms/hands were worse, that's what they'd do first. They'd need to put a plate in his neck at the end of the surgery. He woke up with surgery pain, of course, but the pain & numbness in his arms & hands that he'd been living with for years & years was gone immediately. His neurosurgeon was spectacular. He had to wear a neck brace & couldn't drive for 2 months but he was thrilled with the results. He was on light duty for another 2-3 months after that so scheduling the 2nd surgery was something he put off because his legs weren't nearly as annoying to him. He fell asleep while driving 4.5 years ago on his way home from work one day before he could decide to do the 2nd surgery so he never did get to experience no pain & numbness like he had wanted. I wouldn't have ever guessed what the real problem had been. We had no clue the intermittent legs & near constant arms were the same problem in different areas of the body.
@@srtatropicalia That's exactly what I struggled most with. I'd always used drawing as a coping mechanism, and have wanted to make it into my job. I drew almost everyday, I couldn't imagine life without it. So being completely unproductive and also unable to cope with the emotional pain of having to stay away from art made my life miserable for a while. I draw when I'm sad, I'm sad bec I can't draw; an unfortunate cycle. Moreover, a month or so after the injury I started a really stressful and vital year at school that required an insane amount of workload which didn't give me a chance to heal. I felt completely helpless and a disappointment for the most part. I can easily say it was the darkest year of my life. But it ended, my grades weren't enough to get into the "stable job" college my parents wanted, so I got into art school instead. I like to think it was meant to be. Though not as much as I used to, I can make art now. It hurts, but hurts less than before, so I'd like to think there's hope! Your comment made me feel understood, so thank you for that.
PART 2 will be up in 3-4 weeks, so subscribe for that, and awesome art content in the meantime! I've been making art on TH-cam for 8 years, and I'm not about to stop any time soon!
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hi jazza
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Jozza
The comments summed up:
- people praising Jazza for being honest and giving gentle criticism
- people complimenting Jazza's beard
I loved the new look on him
@@3000NaniNicole same, suits him so well!
thanks
@@3000NaniNicole me too
Lol
I always feel ashamed when I find myself clicking on a ZHC video.
Like, no Zach, you didn't customize a mansion... you painted a wall.
Ahahah true!
Should i Proud because never click his video
@@kuching.sniper2792 yes
I've never even heard of him
He’s like the Asian mr beast
So basically we can sum up his story like:
"Young, talented artist starts getting youtube-famous and transforms into bootleg ricegum"?
☠️☠️☠️
Straight facts.
He was famous? I found him to be in the annoying problematic youtuber category. You know like people ricecum and Jake Paul etc
@@egg1123 yeah, ust because they are problematic does not mean they arent youtube famous, as the problematic part makes even more people click his vids
@@kadeschaos yeah for kids because they think it makes them cool 🤷🏻♀️
I absolutely love the fact that Jazza handles this so professionally. He doesn’t just go out there and say “Oh, yeah Zach Is a liar” (or something like that) He watches his videos and states the good things and bad things. The patience this man has is unbelievable, though he still manages to make amazing videos. 🙂
Interestingly enough, I didnt click on this video for over a month bc I assumed it was clickbait for a collab w ZHC. Keep making good art and being honest and thank you for trying to keep other creators accountable
I'm here today for the exact same reason lol
Me too lol
Ayy same
lol me too
when has jazza ever clickbaited
“I’m a filthy lier but also a father and I need to go home to my children” why did I find this so funny
Walter White be like:
Because it's not okay for your kids to see you drunk, but it's okay for them to see you lie, lol.
@@wildflower1397 i mean if hes driving home then yeah
at least he is not leaving to get milk -----_____----- /j
I really appreciate that you called yourself out too. It takes a true, genuine person to do that when you could have easily ignored it and the people who would have brought it up. You could take the minimal accountability approach. You're a good honest person and a great artist Jazza, just wanted that out there in the world :)
Yes it’s nice that he called himself out but he is still doing all of the things ZHC is doing in terms of clickbait. It just isn’t working that well for him and I think it’s making him frustrated. I mean he uses ZHC name for views and then splits the video in two parts before even explaining his perspective to double engagement on his videos and encourage subscriptions. It’s honestly sad.
@@soolty1696 one more reason he split the video because he wants to contact ZHC and get his answer too. Plus there's too much material.
No it’s just a bit weird if he didn’t it deserves no praise that he did it bc it’s a normal thing everyone ouldndo
@@soolty1696 you just hate life do you
@@teamfate5237 Believe it or not, most TH-camrs wouldn't do it
I used to watch ZHC years ago. I remember drooling at his incredibly detailed art. He was beyond Marvel comics level and now look where he is at. It is just sad that all this talent is being wasted just because to keep a high place in the TH-cam world
He wasnt beyond Marvel comics level. His art looked exactly like someone else’s art, David Finch. With a few elements that looked weird. i also admired his art but once he stopped making those videos David Finch had just created a channel with very useful tips. And from there I discovered other incredible artists like Jim Lee. From there I didnt consider ZHC as good as I thought he was.
Hes not actually that good
Money. I get it. I'm a bookseller but I fell out of love and no longer enjoy it reading etc. I almost hate it, the customers are horrible and I worked for 10 years a little over 10€/hour. And if some dumb work will get me much more money than that I do it. Honestly, if another dumb job will get me money that I can spend on my hobbies or not worry about food at the end of the month I'm here for it. I'll do all the Clickbait fake Car stuff. Good for him.
@@Fyjgtughiohg7ij He’s a great artist even if he’s not a great person lol
@@CorinaShaHe really isn’t, though. He’s decent. As others have pointed out, he aped his entire art style, wholesale, from comic artist David Finch, and it’s pretty obvious he taught himself to draw solely by looking at Dave Finch’s art. It’s impressive at a glance, but it’s all style and no substance, and the style isn’t even his. Very weak fundamentals, thinly masked by professional looking shading techniques. The dude can draw, to be sure, and to be able to imitate one of the best guys to ever do it at the age of 18 is truly impressive, but he’s still just aping one well known artist, and that’ll only take a person so far. There’s a reason he’s living the Smurf life instead of breaking into comics. He has nothing to say with his art. He’s a poser.
I appreciate that instead of just saying how you feel about ZHC, youre putting in a lot of research to understand and explain why you feel that way. To me it doesn't matter what the topic is, if you're going to have a firm opinion you should research and be able to explain why. So I really appreciate that, can't wait for part 2
Same for me,I also appreciate it
Definitely!!! Well said. I respect the homework done to explain why.
I agree but in my opinion ZHC is just cringe like the TH-cam kids kind of cringe
Is nobody gonna talk about how Jazza literally roasted ZHC for 1 minute straight during that popcorn section, like that was so hilarious😂
Lol you’re right
nice profile pic
I was waiting for him to say 10k popcorn......
😂😂
@@simoneosei130 Yayy💙
"I'm a filthy liar!!!! ...but- also a father..and I need to go home to my children-"
Jazza 2021
That line was cute tbh... Jazza might be such a great dad 😭😭😭
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God. I miss old ZHC. He’s been corrupted by the system of TH-cam, the algorithm, the money.
Me too but this is all the fault of Mr beast ever since Zhc started hanging around him and doing stuff too lick his boot ig Mr beasts traits sticked too Zhc and he became another clickbaiter ik this because other people have also called out Mr beast like his ex camera mans
@@crow_g1639 that moment when i just want to blame a genuinely good guy for everything
@@crow_g1639 lol
He started chasing that Mr. Beast bag, and the fame that comes with it.
Old zhc paper zhc was da best to me uuuuh mis dat nigga no home like katt willams obma real shit
I feel like zach went from a super cool artist who's so talented and had an older fan base, to a still talented but cringy artist who has a mainly kid audience.
thats zhc in a nutshell yup
@@arch-zero yeah
kids are easily manipulated :(
Pretty much
That’s what it is….😲
i think that this is fair and i think it’s fair that Jazza is taking a break and actually contacting Zach about this kinda stuff so they can talk about it. and the fact that he talked about it in such a respectful way has my respect, thanks jazza for putting all the info right here for us. i think it’s a smart choice to spilt it into two videos. :)
Absolutely agree! Thank you
ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear erin
@ no. He has a lot of cotent and this video actually took a lot of time to make alone. Part 2 will consume even more time. So this video was planned and executed well
@@AxxLAfriku are you okay-
@@AxxLAfriku what the fu-
It feels like Jazza is a dad that just wants his son to be successful, but also he wants him to be honest.
What a dad is obviously supposed to be
Yeah, and Jazza is treading lightly because he’s aware and acknowledges that the things he’s “exposing” ZHC for are all just a more extreme version of things Jazza himself has done. In fact the comments here talk about things that ZHC has done that are way worse than what Jazza chose to talk about
jazza is actually a dad
Agreed
@@loliezz8461 awee
Honestly Jazza is an amazing guy, he doesn't let temptation get to him. He's seen how much ZHC has grown, but ZHC isn't entirely honest (or as Jazza likes to say, ZHC is influenced by youtube), and instead of seeing that progress, he sees the ethicality. I admire that.
There was a giveaway on his Twitter, saying the most liked reply won £100 or something. I had the most likes and never got anything, tried to contact and nothing. He then says he paid the wrong person and left it like that oh well ahha
He really collaborated with MrBeast once and became a watered down version of him.
Yeah I like his content, but I don’t really get the idea of all the contests for money because most likely those you tubers already have a lot of money. However, I am making assumptions, so my opinion shouldn’t be trusted
Welp... how can you pay a wrong person?? he should have also put a dead line since sometimes someone can simply over thrown another persons likes whàt a scammer
@@usharamcharan3983 i dont get it but it gets lots of views
I mean honestly there may have been no deadline so he sent it to the current most liked comment but like ngl that excuse is- pretty awful
I think it is so cool you called yourself out in the process and were honest on how your content has also been clickbaity at times to appease the youtube algorithm Gods. But like you said and from reading other art TH-camrs' comments, getting success from stepping on others is a nasty thing to do. Thank you for dedicating your time to fully research and even go as far as giving him a chance to speak!
Jazza, thank you for making this video. In my opinion, (1) ZHC has been using extremely deceptive and dishonest tactics in his content which goes beyond clickbait; often the cost of items, as per your experience, are made up in order to inflate his content. I’ve noticed that in numerous videos (2)His content has rubbed the community the wrong way for the last 2-ish years especially because he also mistreated and mislead a few of our friends in this community. He is only using people for his own benefit without giving them due credit. (3) throughout the last 2 years, he has been neglecting safety measures, socializing, travelling, and all of the stuff so many of us were sacrificing. (4) AND more! We, in the art community, love it when we see each other succeed, this is a fact. Zach wants to flex, and step on others to get there. I also have been wanting to expose a few things, but I need others’ permissions to do so. This video is done in such a caring and concerned way, and I commend you for that. You truly are still the king of this community to us Jazza because you still do represent art and this community by giving back and paving the way for us. Although I know you’re hoping he would connect with you, I’m pretty sure that he’s too absorbed in this, and this is the path he will continue on since flexing is one of his main motivator. Again, nothing is wrong with wanting money, but the deception and misleading/using people is gross. (Edit: I really can’t stop watching the custom corn bit lol)
I read the entire comment that you have posted here and I just wanted to let you know: Thanks, it was a really fascinating and insightful read. Really makes you see other TH-camrs and members of the art community in a new light, which is definitely not what is shown on ZHC's channel currently.
Preach! Well said.
I loved his old content And he decided to change to a mr beast ripoff..
I used to watch him, and then I started to dislike him, I got sceptical of his content, and stopped watching him, I honestly just cringe at him now,
👏👏
When I found your channel recently (Jan 2023) I was so relieved to find a place where wholesome honest content still exists on TH-cam. Thank you for being an honest man, the world needs more of that. I appreciate your creations and passion!
Jazza really exposing both ZHC and himself and I truly respect him for that 😂
It's an attack on the evolution of the TH-cam algorithm framed as a review of a young artist.
@B_GUH Basically, it's a commentary on what the youtube algorithm encourages youtubers to be. What is happening with ZHC is ultimately something that has happened with a lot of youtubers.
@@williamjenkins4913 A justified attack
Never even knew this ZHC guy existed, but it's bloody insane to see it all unfold in the way it has.
@@SparkieNeisti when I searched him up, I was suprised to find I was subscribed to him. And then I realized I watched some of his art videos a REALLY long time ago. Goes to show how much of a completely different person he is now. I unsubscribed, btw, because he didn't have the content I respected anymore.
Jazza is the "Art Attack'' of this generation.
Hands down the best, highest quality, focused just on the fun of making art.
Imagine if Jazza and Neil did an art collaboration 🤔
@@CamoTothor that would be awesome
Nah Ethan Becker
omg i didnt know art attack was popular with others... remember the talking stone head?
oh my god I forgot about Art Attack! I miss that show so much 😭
Regular TH-camrs when sponsored by Skillshare: "so this is a course that I really enjoy"
Jazza when sponsored by Skillshare: "so this is MY latest class"
Jazza built different
@@blueberrybasketcase4481 Being that he's an Aussie, he's definitely built upside down.
@@licentiousdreams this is very true. I approve, as a Floridian
@@cosmiecosmo i approve, as a sex offender
@@channelname4331 ...
My mom has carpal tunnel and she makes crochet clothing and literally has to stop because the pain gets so intense. Sometimes she’ll complain and keep crocheting when the pain isn’t too bad but constantly drawing and doing hours of streaming while drawing is either being faked or unsafe for someone with that issue
Me: **hasn't watches Jazza for 8 months**
Also Me: HOLY CRAP HE HAS A SICK BEARD NOW!
Same
I thought I was the only one!
same ahaha
same lol
Same, I haven't watched for a shorter ammount of time but still, I got surprised by the beard.
I wish all TH-cam drama was this simple
Wish all TH-camrs were more like jazza
@@avi4767 yeeeeeeeeeeeee
@@avi4767 wish all youtubers were jazza lmao
@@avi4767 i'd say some, I already like the personality of most youtubers like jack and mark
@@riari6980 lol wth
You’re a good man, Jazza. Thanks for stepping up to do this. Integrity will always prevail. Looking forward to seeing part 2. 👍
didnt expect to see a verified creator on newest first comments
omg cartooning club how to draw what are you doing here
Although Jazza spoke about real concerns regarding ZHC's content, what did he expose exactly? This video was just an observation on ZHC. Maybe in pt 2 we'll find out something about ZHC? Or will this be a video just for the clicks as well?
Waitttt I just commented on your video and found u heree
@@Bee-ih7vk the "Expose" wasn't meant literally ig. Seemed facetious.
I'm glad you manage to walk the line between content creation and art creation while still staying as primarily art creation. Honestly love your videos and generally unfollow and unsubscribe to channels that just focus on clickbait. Thank you for your content and keeping it art focused. I love you and your channel
Zhc isn’t exactly an art TH-camr anymore. He’s just a TH-camr who happens to draw. That’s it.
Most if not all of his videos are about customizing something, so technically he's still an art youtuber since all of his videos has an art piece in it
@@BitterJoyXx well I suppose that’s true. But it’s less about the art and more about what he customises and who he customises it for. That’s how I see it anyway. I suppose it’s a win win for his subscribers and him since both parties obtain something, but you get my point.
@@ruth3yyy You got a fair point, during the customizing hospital or customizing house etc. it's more about the actual place rather than the art
@@BitterJoyXx yeah I believe so. There’s nothing wrong with it of course but I just no longer see him as an art TH-camr is all I’m saying ÓwÒ
Mrbeast but artist
In my opinion as someone who enjoys watching art content, I could never get into ZHC's videos, they just felt off to me (no fault of his, I just enjoy watching art being created rather than giveaways etc.). Thank you for doing this video in such a respectful way! You are someone I look up to,and aspire to be as kind & patient as you. Thank you for all you do :)
It seems like his content is a copy paste of mr beast but with art
I honestly prefer vex bc of that :/ no hate to zhc he helps a lot of people
I seen one of his videos pop up in my suggested the other day. Never watched him before, but the thumbnail tipped me off and I didn't click on it, and I tend to click on a lot of art vids. Even told YT to not show the cannel again, before Jazza even made his vid.
I remember watching ZHC at around 4k subs. I loved his content and his art skills were phenomenal, now don't get me wrong, he's still talented af but I feel like he targets his content towards kids now.
I could never get into ZHC either but my 8yo loves him. So I guess that speaks for his target demo.
I thought this was going to be a joke about exposing ZHC, turns out he's actually doing it. Unexpected
same i was like lol what kind if collab is this but then i read the comments and i was like wait…
Same lol
Literally, like why is this even happening, it’s so random
Ikr
@@I.AM.SHADOW I was thinking the same thing. I thought maybe ZHC had a scandal or something. Don't get me wrong there negative aspects about him but nothing I would personally make a video over? Idk we will see what goes down in part 2
Its sad to watch this.
I was never an actual fan or follower of Zach. But watching this video, it pains me to see how a young talented aspiring artist tried showing off his skill on the internet, and ultimately ended up being dragged into the dark hole of "content spew" that youtube fuels these days.
Real passion for art, turnt into passion for money.
This is what happens when the "artists" think that art means you have to make money. None of these people would be doing it without the cash they make off of it and then we all waste our time wondering why the medium is so degenerative at this point.
It's either for the passion or it's for the bag... it's never both, period. We don't need 5000 more artists to all line up and tell the same sob story about burn out for us to learn that.
late to the punch here, but it really does seem like in the earlier videos he was an artist that just so happened to do youtube, and not a youtuber who just so happened to make art, iykwim
No clue who that guy is nor the people he "fame chase" after mentioned in comments and in the video too but yeah one thing is aparant. He desperately went the typical trashpie route of spamming nonsense clickbait videos, paying for advertising and bots otherwise he would never have the watch data (numbers) he have today.
The trend phase of genderism, weird attention seeking, calling upon a made up disability and related stuff is all present "oh feel sorry for me and give me money because I have bla bla bla" like it will justify all the other lies and nonsense content that he did before or after these type of "boohoo" contents.
So many online did this and being exposed liars but most even contradict themselves with every video to the point that you don't even need to dig deep and investigate.
I am genuenly surprised many of these don't get put into prison because they are basically scams and criminal acts.
The trend and agenda feeding is present and he just tap into every trend there is far as I seen so far. Mind you all that alg is fake, aka projected and manufactured, they all collectively feeding the algorythm and it's all fake. It's not what people watch it's what people get exposed to through ads and clickbaits.
At the end of day the only entity that makes huge amounts of money on this literary doing nothing is Google and corporations who monetize these all. The "content" creators do all the work and get chum change in return, hence why naively everyone with half a brain and no life will gladly start doing these for a living.
So he is another sad puppet chasing vapor.
Many ppl I know so did I been there in many partner programs and simply quit YEARS AGO this social media nonsense and "content creation" because actual content creators and creative people not only can't make a living but also can't even have any hobby based small communities because soon as you don't follow the "cult" you get backstabbed. It's too much wasted time and effort for nothing.
It's toxic (harmful for you and others equally in billions of ways) and I leave it at that.
@@TheGreatKingChiba never both? not true. exact opposite. anyone who is “passionate” enough about art will want it to be their job as it’s something they enjoy. if they’re not currently earning anything, it’s because they don’t think they’re good enough, or they’re not promoting themselves properly. I mean do you think jazza has a “regular” job on the side? no. he’s passionate about his art AND does it to make money from it. why else would he post online? such an awful take. you’re trying to shame artists into thinking they shouldn’t make money from their art because you’ll think they’re money-hungry. honestly I wish I had the power to “banish” you from this space, you simply don’t belong here if that’s your attitude. and I’m not even going to entertain your comment about burn-out. it’s obvious you think artists are beneath you, you have ZERO respect for them. literally just go away.
I appreciate the fact the Jazza cares enough about ZHC that he is criticizing but in a kind way. Rlly shows true respect and is a great example in all aspects of life. If u think someone is doing something wrong, gently call them out for it and have a discussion. I’ve also noticed ZHC is pretty much just copying Mr. Beast but adds art into it
Zhc legit called himself the art version of mr beast what? I wouldn’t take that as actual copying especially sense they know each other
@@senink I said he was pretty much copying. Meaning there r a lot of similarities. He saw those types of vids helped Mr. Beast and is doing a form of piggy backing off of him. It’s a norm think for creators to do, but doesn’t rlly make it right.
@@gabe4037 doesn't make it wrong either. Everyone does what they gotta do to get by and stay relevant since humans nowadays have the shortest attention spans. we all judge but never step in other's shoes.
@@rosanagutierrez1640 I understand where u r coming from. I’m not hating on ZHC. I’m simply stating my personal opinion. I know that the world is very judgmental, being an art major has definitely taught me that. I believe if u disagree with another’s actions you can voice it in a mature way. And just Bc u disagree doesn’t mean u disagree with every single thing someone says/ does
means its like he is not copying but kind of using mr beast as a rope but still he has his own way of helping
I really miss his old content. Of course he can change and evolve, but I feel like he's almost DEvolved. The comic style videos of his inspired me so much, now I can't even watch any of his videos without getting a bad taste in my mouth
Same :( His recent videos are just... so.. yeah....
He's evolving... just backwards.
Jazza had a bit of a phase like that and I was so happy when he released a video talking about it. Now I really enjoy his content again. I would home ZHC does the same eventually
He's a second rate David Finch anyway. Go watch the obvious inspiration, it's much better.
Me too. I user to love his old content, I thought the comic book style was so cool and I strived to draw like that but then I saw the first "I customized" video and I haven't watched a single one since. I've been meaning to unsubscribe because I'm just so disappointed in the turn he decided to take.
@@snowball_from_earth me too I did take a break from jazzas videos for a while but the quality of his content seems to really be picking up again.
Normally I'm not a fan of these "calling out" videos, but this one is rightfully deserved. I'm a fledgling artist. Nowhere near the best but I'm learning every day andbtrying new mediums. That's why I like Jazza's channel so much. You see legit pieces of art, even if the prompt or medium borders on absurd. Channel's like ZHC are a product of the new age of youtube where the biggest creators post 99% click bait and the "art" takes a backseat
Jazza is a chill dude, so this isn't a dRaMa video like a lot of them are. He's just calmly explaining the issues. That's most of what I like about it.
@@soniccookie655 this is more of a “mate, what are you doing?” Video
I agree with you strongly.
Well he still makes the shit
@@DustyB wym?
Honestly I really appreciate that you give us exactly what you promise in the thumbnails. I hate when people use those just for click bait and its not even in the video.
It's always relieving to see someone speak up about this issue and covered every perspective possible fairly
yeah
Finally i saw one of ur comment that has little likes lmao keep hustlin man
@@stebodelaserna981 Ikr wtf this guy is everywhere in every community. He has way too much free time...
@@irecejk879 too much free time
Early
I love how there is no dramatic opening. I love how he doesn't attack ZHC i love how he isn't too loud or too dramatic this is just Jazza making a bit more serious video. He is still funny and makes jokes even jokes on his address yet he did tone down it a bit so we understand that there is a clear problem we have to talk about
Love your pfp
The weirdest thing to me is that I knew this guy in high school, he was in my art class and swim team, and was a really quiet and nice dude that just sat in the back of the room and doodled. It’s weird looking at him now knowing what he used to be
edit for more info: i remember he would always be working on a comic or personal project during class time and would forget to do assignments bc he really loved drawing specifically in one style only so the teacher would have to come and remind him to work on whatever project was going on at the time
(his art was super good even as a junior, i was always hella impressed whenever i walked by)
and it wasn’t like he was rude to authority or bombastic like he is now, was a pretty polite and nice guy
Wow
Shitty mitty
was he the quiet kid 😳
idk if i can believe you but ight
cap
Thanks for this! Just finished part 2 as well. As an art teacher, I’ve stumbled across zhc before looking for interesting demos, and thought those vids seemed odd for an art channel. Now I know why!
The amount of times Zach has deceived his followers and the art community without putting himself at fault for doing so is too many to count. I really respect Jazza for taking such an in-depth approach to this instead of going in guns blazing like most of us would have out of anger. Thank you Jazza, I think my respect for you has doubled and I didn’t even know that was possible
I guess it's mainly because he's also part of the community and knows that ZHC was once a creator like him, and got deviated in the middle somewhere.
@A&O Pokemon wdym sonic can talk? he always does! 😂
Again, these are not negative observations, they are just observations.
You look like moist
@@magnus2111 he actually does wtf
@@xevino833 lol
Charlie?
Matto?
Watching Zac is like watching a young person getting corrupted by money, and fame, and I am only few years older. I used to watch him, before he got into flexing.
Same, he was the one who convinced me to buy clutch pencils
Exactly lol, he turned into an awful youtuber
same i used to enjoy watching his videos until i noticed fame and money took over him
Yes that's exactly how it is
@@emersyn444 I would have bought them but l couldn't find them where l live
i came across this video not knowing what ZHC even was. i was bingeing jazza videos because i love how they focus on the true spirit of art for me. doing art for art's sake. exploring different mediums, learning about the process, and most importantly just having fun! this is what made me subscribe to jazza, so jazza i just want you to know that that's a type of subscriber you have that zhc doesn't.
I agree that it definitely changed the tone of art content on here a lot. I get why some things seem yucky too. Though just to point out I also had carpal tunnel that was debilitating for a short period but much better now, sometimes I do get tinges but it can heal.
Exercise can help for that
@@stuffing202 Actually my physio said to completely rest it when it flared up because I was overusing it. After some treatments it stopped hurting. I only get it if I draw for too long etc then I take a day to let it chill and that seems to work.
@@TheAverageArtist ah okay then 👍🏽
Yeah I got carpol tunnel from marching band but with the proper brace and rest, I got over it in about two or three weeks, which given recording to upload time for certain videos seems doable.
I think Jazza was saying that it healed too quickly since it was only mentioned in one video and then never again. He mentioned it should have taken days to heal.
Can we talk about the QUALITY of that "did I spill the tea?" gag? This, this is why I'm subscribed.
That's the best thing about Jazza. He goes with quality over quantity. Quality art, quality creativity, quality fun, quality entertainment, quality personality. He is so genuine and is motivated by his love of art and his love for his community. It's so refreshing.
Everyone needs a friend who’ll make you customized popcorn
just... maybe not with paint...
@@Galaxies3000 edible paint maybe
@@Galaxies3000 food colouring lol
It warms my heart
its actually been my dad lol he used to make those coloured popcorn you can but at home and it always tasted pretty good. havent had it in a couple years tho
ZHC wrote me out of nothing, that he likes my graffiti. hahahah - his content is really extremely fast, and maybe I am more an oldschool guy, but if he is happy with that, all cool. I think it is possible to be happy even with so much money, he always throws around. I think, the more different his content is, the less of your community has to choose if they want to see his or your video, when both are in suggestions. I am looking forward to Part2! Big up from Germany 🇩🇪
Spoken like a true family man 😁
I love your content! Found you via Ten Hun art collab. Which was a true collaboration. I’m glad you didn’t work with ZHC. Keep being an amazing person!
I don't like zhc purely because his so called competitions are all fixed it's always people he knows that seem to win
"Wrote to me out of nowhere," would sound more grammatically correct.
@@paulwoodford6229 He's not a native english speaker. ;P
Every once in a while Jazza puts out a video like this, renewing my sense of respect for Jazza as a person. The last one was his noticing the critical review of his content heading in a direction he didn’t want, giving him a wake up call.
I truly wish the world had more people like Jazza, with value centered on integrity
I definitely agree. Im not at the point where i watch every video he makes anymore but who jazza is as a person always bring me back. The art has changed, youtube has changed, even the basic way i view art has changed but it never feels like the morals have changed, at least never for the worse.
Can you tell me what the last one you were talking about was?
@@SentinalSlice The last one I remember? not really, I just remember he was talking about how he saw his channel starting to go in a direction that he wouldn't be proud of, and immediately after we saw his video go ina different, more Jazza direction
I like this a lot. Not undeservingly negative to him, but highlighting how youtube's algorithm is inhospitable for natural creative cycles and community as a whole. Respect that the player knows what he's doing, but criticizing the game through the lens of his content.
well said! 👏That's exactly what I was thinking
We should also criticize the player because those are the people who are actually using TH-cam and doing this clickbait shit. They cannot avoid their own responsibility.
And of course, the people who watch this stuff are also at fault.
this was very well written. couldn't have said it any other way!
@@Fragenzeichenplatte if so, any type of media should be sabotaged. It’s just how business works and how most of the audience wants
@@mand5790 No, not all people in media are the same. You're vastly oversimplifying, just to defend shitty TH-cam creators.
As a fellow Aussie and artist, I’ve always admired Jazza. I honestly didn’t expect him to make a video like this but it definitely feels right. It feels like it was supposed to happen
I remember seeing a ZHC video randomly on my feed where him and MrBeast customized a house and gave it away to a homeless person, I think the artwork is nice but one thing that made the people in the comments really uncomfortable is that ZHC painted him and Jimmy's face in the wall with their logos, it was like reminding the new people who will live there "oh we painted this house for you, you owe us all your gratitude."
Can you link me the video? Trynna find it but cant
mrbeast looks to genuinely care about the homeless and less fortunate; he even runs his own food banks 24/7, and has gotten rid of many of his material possessions. zhc, however, only is really shown throwing his cash into stuff like teslas, gucci, and mansions. hes like mrbeast but the cash got to him
I started following him around the 40k mark and eventually would stop following him once he started putting out a bunch of giveaways which was still early days for him.
Yeah no shit, it's a house. You would wear a corporate logo like a tool for a few grand a month but don't want famous people who actually increase value of property on it?
That sounds more like ungratefulness than forced gratitude.
I seen it and I was truly disgusted!
back then, ZHC was literally the one who motivated me to draw again, its sad that he just turned into a version of Mr. Beast
Agreed... Mr Beast is great but the thing is, Mr Beast was unique and you can't really fault him for making the videos that he does because he might as well have created that genre of TH-cam, but ZHC's videos have just taken such a massive plunge imo... I always hate to be that guy, but I miss his old content
his art kinda stinks nowadays ngl
Other you tubers too :((
Yeah he is clickbaiting
Same for me dude!
The difference between Jazza and Zach is that Jazza acknowledges his mistakes and clickbait- and whenever he notices it, he always tries to correct himself and take a break on TH-cam to give us the best content. Zach on the other hand, just makes a joke about it and tends to “give” to more popular creators that don’t really need it. I love the way Jazza explained it and how he tried to be as objective as possible, while still calling Zach out on his behavior
meeh. his content is on the border line of what's extreme clickbait and what not.
He has donated to fans and kids in the hospital so no he does not only give to the youtubers.
@@SelfMotivaited and yet he continues to only highlight the popular TH-camrs he gives gifts to as well as clickbait almost every video
You ever seen jazza give away a car an iPhone a tablet anything like that huh
@@flickfox1798 That just prooves their point
I’m an artist with carpal tunnel. I’ve had it for over ten years. I can’t draw detailed drawings for longer than maybe an hour or so without pain and unfortunately now my hand will go numb. This is one reason why I prefer painting. Less tension on my hands. So seeing this is eyebrow raising 😅
How do you work with it? Does it ever go away/get better?? If not, are there methods of prevention?
@@bluesetise No, it does not go away, but there are ways to prevent it from happening. Typically it occurs when your wrists are constantly at a bent position for long periods of time, so it doesn’t happen overnight. Mine occurred because of my sleep position. I use to sleep with my hands tucked and wrists bent underneath my chin. So the doctors gave me wrist splints that restrained me from bending my wrists at night. There are other ways it can occur, but that’s how I got it.
There are treatments that can be done at the chiropractor to alleviate the tension. Being more aware and making sure you keep your wrist from being in a stationery bent position for long periods of time will prevent it, as well as taking breaks and resting your hands and wrists.
There is also a surgery that some people get when it gets to the point where the numbing starts to occur. But the surgery is very risky so I did not want to take that chance.
That carpel tunnel bit drives me fucking mad because my dad, a few years back, had to get carpel tunnel surgery in both his wrists, including his left elbow, and has to wear wrist braces to bed often to this day. He experiences extreme pain in both of his hands still, and has struggles with grip strength where he drops items often. No pain medicine has worked for him thus far, and he’s kept opiates at a 10 foot pole for a myriad of reasons I don’t think I’ll have to explain. Seeing ZCH using this as a way to get clicks and clout is absolutely infuriating.
May I suggest your dad look into dry needling?
My L5-S1 disc exploded.
It is the only thing that has actually helped. My cousin hard severe carpel tunnel from years of typing. She's had the surgery and also does dry needling therapy.
It is almost the same as acupuncture preformed by a specialist
Opioids are not an option for my cousin or me .
🙏🙏🙏
Words can’t truly describe how satisfied I am with someone finally touching on this topic, let alone, jazza, one of the biggest art channels on the site. I was a fan of Zach really early in his career, I remember him having less than 70k subs, I was fan mostly cause of his art style ( cause that’s what art channels really should be for ) and I guess he was quite entertaining sometimes as well (some of his old Reddit vids were actually really funny ) but when he slowly started growing after the pewdiepie shoutout, his unique cool art style started gradually fading away from his channel, which was kind of disappointing but he was still making quality content, now, his personality is just painful to watch and an actual artistic talent seems to be sometimes no where to be found in his vids ( so much so I actually do forget how amazing of an artist he is) and his clickbaity types of videos are obvious bait for views. Vexx, gawx and jazza remain superior, as actual art is being produced by the end of each video
Same bro
Me too man
I'm sure a lot of his old viewers feel this way including me I miss his really cool art
Took the words straight out of my mouth
100% accurate i forgot he even was an artist because his team makes most the art in his videos he maybe makes 7% of it. Thats just sad given how great he once was
My younger brother joined one of his art competitions on Instagram, along with lots of other people and the winner was supposed to get a gift or something. That competition was never mentioned ever again in any of his videos.
He stole there ideas and art
@@wolfpack8275 lmao
@@AB-jm9wx lol he ain’t wrong tho.
@@moonstrike999armedrabbit4 proof?
@@moonstrike999armedrabbit4 like is there proof he did that? Because i want to read about it
I love the fact that this man lied about being drunk because he knew he had kids to go home to see.
Truly one of the dads of all time
What's crazy is I used to follow Zach when he was in college. He was a humble boy in his dorm going live occassionally to draw and he even brought me up on his panel. Before he started youtube. We encouraged him to start it and once he took off he felt like a completely different person. More money hungry and deciving.
He found a way to make his videos viral ! And got money from his content what’s wrong with with that !! Every artists join social media for money 💰 and once something blow up they keep doing the same style and stay in that box
@@melboysoap5445 as an artist, even if my stuff made money, i wouldn't only focus on it and would enjoy just making people happy with art
you cant just stop there. im nosey. tell me more about how money hungry and deceiving he became.
With you bro. I think no one should try and tell others what to do I mean look at jazza truly trying to get views cause zhc is a big youtuber you know jazza .uk so disappointed in you bro I never really liked you but now? Now I hate you
@@noureenjaved1512 jazza has worked with zhc and was one of the main people that built the art community. Him making a video about zhc has nothing to do with clout and has everything to do with Zhc clout chasing
My son, who was around 7-8 years old then, showed me Jazza’s channel when he was into drawing (he’s 14 now). We would watch his videos before we go to bed as bonding time. I was watching a vid from Sarah Clark’s channel earlier and her collab with Jazza. Long story short, we rediscovered our love for Jazza. Can’t believe I just subscribed today.
Jazza, you’re integrity is awesome. Don’t stop being you!
That’s such a nice story! Hope you’re doing well.
Dang your child is genuinely smarter then the rest of Gen Z! All of them just watch clickbait channels like ZHC.
@@leepicgaymer5464 Completely agreed. My generation is screwed!
@@leepicgaymer5464 all of them?
@ LeEpicGaymer Don’t know about the rest (coming from a 12 year old turning 13 next month) I’ve always hated clickbait channels, I don’t like a lot of the popular people
I got diagnosed with carpal syndrome, and beginning rheumatism due to excessive use of my hands about 20 years ago, after many many years of excessive sewing work. I stopped all sewing work for 10 years, while I also supported both wrists with supporters, and pretty much didnt lift anything, didnt do anything of fine details, or straining of my wrists. That worked. I no longer have any pain, no symptoms. I started slowly up with drawing, a little sewing, some yarn work. Now I can draw for many many many hours, with no problems. I can sew and lift, use scissors in hours. I learned my lesson, so when my joints or fingers starts aching, I take a break for a couple of days. And best of all, I no longer just randomly drop stuff because my fingers or hands suddenly lose all function. I used to just drop stuff, like pick up a glass of water, and simply just drop it on the floor... and peeps thought I was clumsy or an idiot :D
And young folks who like to do stuff with your hands... be careful, take breaks, and plan days of rest for your hands. You need them for many years to come
I do artwork I like to dabble in many mediums. Mainly claywork, drawing, and sewing. I have this job where I have to write hundreds of letters every week. My hand starts to hurt after about 300 sometimes way earlier than that. Do you think it's worse to do more all in one day and then rest up for days later or to do break it up and have to write every day with less being done? My mom has carpal tunnel and really bad rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis. She had breast cancer and now has to take medicine that weakens her bones and makes it even worse. It really sucks :/
I had an issue pop up with my thumb on Christmas Day driving home. It burned to use my thumb while driving and I had an hour and a half to go. I have had it in a thumb immobilizing brace for over a month now and I am using it less now and having some pain still but I can't play the new Pokemon game on my switch with the brace on 😭. I can play for a while and then it hurts again. Never had that problem untill Christmas.
Thank you for that, I tend to overwork myself and I love doing crafty things, sewing, drawing, and now I want to try diamond painting, knittting, embroidery, cross stitch and more! Things that makes my hands busy gives me a peace of mind
"due to excessive sewing work". wtf. fuck me man. stopped drawing, stopped taking hand notes (mostly typing and that's been decreased significantly now) and decided to get into sewing. most of my hobbies use my hands and eyes. ugh. Now I need to be extra careful. thank you for sharing your experience. inadvertently warned me since I didn't even consider it could hurt my hands since I'm just learning
@@ggundercover3681 look for neuroplastic pain here on utube and RSI Jhon e sarno. Worked for me. I don't do those stuff anymore and I don't hurt any more. I was on the edge of an intervention but two weeks later i was totally Simptom free till to day i use my hands more than ever and I don't hurt any more. Hope this help u two
I used to faithfully watch jazza and ZHC I was addicted to both, I stopped watching ZHC because I personally felt he went from art to just trying to be a "big youtuber". Stay how you are jazza I absolutely love the videos and you are the reason I do art and am so in love with it.
Okay like, as someone that had a terrible art related injuries and it took me 2 YEARS to be able to pick up a marker again, I am mad. there is no way that he could draw for hours after that injury.
not defending ZHC but i think it could vary from person to person, for me the worst that happens is that my wrist hurts and I take a day off, but i tend to draw for just a few hours
@Ashvith Shetty 100%- I think it’s RUINED our society (yeah I know I’m in the few that think that- but I do) - we are not better for it and people have survived just fine without it
I sorry you have to experience pain
@@froghugs2597 for a few hours , yeah sure but not for as much as he claims.
I'm an amateur photographer, multimedia artist, crafter, and hard-core gamer. I also have carpal tunnel in both wrists and two fingers on my left hand I haven't been able to feel in the last 10 years. Personally I am far more likely to work in night braces, pop over-the-counter painkillers to the equivalent of prescription strength, modify my movement if I have to, and ache for weeks for my craft than set down what I love for so much as a few days. ZHC wasn't in any kind of brace that would restrict wrist movement which is what severe carpal tunnel needs. It barely covered his wrist, is only helpful for the most mild cases of carpal tunnel, and in truth was better suited for a sprain. I don't have words for how angry I was when he came out with that video. After it I blocked his channel because all he makes this clickbait and I'm not willing to feed it.
That Spider-Sona was basically his way of expressing his frustrations
First
Yeah that was more sad than funny, you can tell he has some things he has or is dealing with.
Something definitely happened
Yeeeeeah that sounded awfully like a bullied kid who finally got his minute of fame.
"NOW I will show them! SHOW THEM ALL"
Let's be honest, ZHC is basically the Rice Gum of the art community
I actually confused them before lol.
Who’s ricegum?
A tad racist but ok
Hmmmm ricegum had no talent though. Although the the clickbait and bling stuff is ricegum esc
@@PancakeTheKat definitely a boomer
Oh shoot! Jazza used one of my thumbnails as an example. Truly honored 😀 16:08
And you're proud of that?
@@donutswithlotsofsugar Yeah, not something to be proud of in this context 🤦♂️
@@timehunter9467 Dude has exactly zero integrity and it shows 😅
it's pure trash tho
Hi
I feel the same. My kid loves him, and my breaking point with it was in the video of them painting the high school they kept making fun of fat people like "ew don't make me look fat!". Imagine how the larger kids at that school, who probably already have low self esteem because kids are assholes, feel when this cool guy is saying things like that. My kid also loves Unspeakable, and I definitely feel icky about his obvious money-lust and fancy stuff drive.
Money lust yeah right
That's.. pretty gross for him to say. I used to watch some of ZHC's videos and quite frankly I felt that there was something off. I stopped watching him, and now I come back to him doing these 5000 dollar "best art wins" challenges with his friends. It just feels.. bad.
yes my younger siblings are the same(little brother has grown out of it a bit but my little sister hasn't really)
my parents to try and put some perimeters and i try to recommend some less hedonistic channels but it doesn't ever quite catch on. i hope she'll grow out of them soon, it's sad how the algorithm kinda traps kids like this:/
i stopped watching him after his like 8th video of painting a phone. he is wasting art supplies and expensive products to use as a "hey i have money and can do art!", which isn't bad but when I'm a kid who loves art and don't have much money, it hurts. now, i love looking at amazing art and i dont shame people who have money but he just rubs the art and money so much is hurts my heart and makes me have low sel esteem. he is one of the only people to make me feel this way, that when you know he is doing something hurtful to an art community and children.
I liked unspeakable but uhhhh his videos I've forgotten about it
"I am a filthy Liar, but also a father" I can feel my respect for this man growing faster than me clicking on the subscribe button when I realized I was not actually subscribed to this channel.
As someone who can no longer draw because my hands are messed up from chemo, the carpel tunnel stuff made me so angry. Thank you Jazza for pointing out the suspiciousness
I hope you find another way, there was a student in my high school who painted with their mouth, they took the WHOLE YEAR to make a painting. separated into manageable squares, and they got better and it was lovely. Better than lots of my stuff and I did go to art school after. :)
I feel truly sorry for you... I hope you’ll be able to draw again soon
I hope you'll be able to regain that ability back :( im sorry about your hands
if art is your passion, find a way to create it. i say this as someone who has tried to pursue other, more profitable careers while shunning their passion (writing, for me), and please dont give up on it. there are so many ways to create, you could try your hand at digital art. i dabble sometimes, and i dont mean like with a stylus, i mean like pirating photoshop and just fucking around until you create something. of course, it wont have the same *feeling* as physical drawing does, but its something at least. just, dont give up on it, please. it breaks my heart everytime to hear people have given up on their passions, even in the face of unwaivering odds and cirumstances.
There’s no correct way to make art
LMAO BRO, actually fucking love that moment jazza went "youtuber" moment, even tho its not you guys, it would be fun to watch you guys do it it ironically every now and then, absolutely loved the mature and good person jazza is turn into an actual youtuber XD
Man finally somebody talked about it... His art had a real potential, he was a motivation but the way his channel is now... It's wasted potential
Same ☹️
Agreed.
toatally agree. i used to watch him for his tutorials in the beginning. But than kindof forgot about his channel and unsubbed back in 2017. Never looked back.
@@CreativeSteve69 ikr!!! I started art few months ago and I used to watch his tutorial....then I saw his new videos. and I was kinda lik ...mehh
He could have been like Jazza. Started from college students to having a large subscribers
Personally, as an art nerd, I have crazy respect for ZHC and his hussle, but his new videos don’t feel like they are targeted at art nerds who wanna see the actual process involved. He is pushing marketable content, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It just doesn’t appeal to me.
I agree.
Agreed
Agreed miss seeing his old content, where he showed his personality, now he’s just copying Mr. Beast, nothing wrong with it, but he’s lost his personality in the background
yess, kinda feels wierd watching his vids now, its all giving off cringe tik tok vibes for some reason
@@isonef cringe asf
I'll be totally honest, I didn't know who ZHC was before watching this and I'm glad. TH-cam can be such a cesspool of negativity, but the art community has always been a beacon of light. Jazza, Miniac, ADCArtAttack and countless others are where my wife and I go for feel good videos and to enjoy wonderful art. Keep fighting the good fight.
Another reason to be glad was because he was actually a likeable TH-camr before and might of actually liked him before he made bad content
Same
2:56 this zhc esque montage had me LMAO! I don't watch much art related videos on yt but the stuff I do watch is mostly yours. The reason I know what a zhc video looks like is cause I watched one a lil while back and it didn't even feel art related...blech. Imma be honest too: I can see that you're really good at what you do and that you... sometimes... do your projects sub par. But, knowing that your content is actually real art related stuff and that you try to put out enough content to keep your viewers happy while still keeping the content top notch, I'm 110% ok with the projects not always being as good as I know you could make them if you spent more time on them. In summary, you're doing everything right and keep up the good work!✌🏼👍🏼🔥
Jazza I love that you called yourself out rather than have people find out and feel lied to. Being open and honest about things is really commendable and I like how you aren't trashing this TH-camr and are being open and honest about your full review even if it means throwing some shade at yourself if there is any shade to be had and leaving that opinion to the viewers. 👏👏👏👏
Favorite part: "I know, "FILTHY LIAR!" but also a father and I needed to go to home to my children."
Bruv I felt that. As a father I understand.😂
I don’t know but I feel like jazza is the cleanest, most polished, and widest variety of content of any art channel I’ve seen. Thanks for the awesome content
Ya, he even changed his name to just "Jazza" because his content became more broad
@@xdtfdragon-blade8280 he also expands from Anime stuff, WH40K, Collabs with his brother Shadiversity. A man we all should admire mote
Always thought this video was supposed to be a silly collab so I never got round to it until now. Jazza handles this beautifully, but I expected nothing more from him ✨💅🏻
I used to follow ZHC art back when he did his comic art, when he was first starting out on TH-cam. But I did see the shift, and he slowly lost my interest. The clickbait thumbnails and over-the-top challenges he would partake in wasn’t the same grounded personality he once was.
I hope that this conversation Jazza has with him allows him to see how deep he’s fallen into the publicity hole that is youtube.
Maybe Jazza can fish him back out. Set him back on track.
One can only hope.
I also liked the old zhc , now he is just mini mr beast
Lol 😆 it’s all about target market. ZHC target market when he started out was other beginner artists, so he started out like most other art youtubers would. Beginner artists that actively look for detail art tutorial and tips is minuscule compare to the mass audience who are looking for purely entertainment rather than actual proper boring art tutorials.
He realized this along the way and made the switch and turned himself into an artist version of Mr. Beast that focuses on purely entertainment which appeal to mass market. So of course his early subscribers who sub to him for art related content will find his content unrelatable and clickbaity. He’s doing very very well with this current strat and I don’t see any reason why he would go back to making art tips and piss off his mass market audience.
@@stephenhan9680 well said
i miss him
@@stephenhan9680 he's free to keep doing that, it's just the dishonesty that irritates so many people
I think it's nice to see Jazza give feedback and criticize ZHC's current content, especially considering Jazza went through a similar period himself where he was making content to get views, and losing his old touch (last year, see Jazza's "I don't like what I've become" video). Hopefully Zach takes this as constructive criticism :)))
PS. Jazza, beard is looking FAB
Not to be rude to zhc. But there is a difference of lying about drinking alcohol or beads you used vs lying about a medical condition to gather attention. That is a line I'm glad you never crossed.
What medical condition did he lie of and how do you know he lied
@@trix_ai2372 Watch the video
@D. Va I remember that, too lol
He'd still have problems with his wrist even today if he had severe enough carpel tunnel to quit making art, which tells you he either didn't have carpel tunnel syndrome, or it was such an insignificant problem that it went away within a couple of days. Both in which are completely possible, but I think we know which one it was. Lying about medical issues to garner attention is about as low as you can get.
Carpel Tunnel also doesn’t just go from fine to sudden attack like that horrible acting job in the video. It’s a constant ache that gets worse when you start doing activities that aggravate it.
I’m watching this in 2023 and remembering that I used to watch Zhc back when he was painting iPads and iPhones during the hype house era and I’ve never gone back because it became so repetitive, I also used to watch jazzy, Rae, and drawing with waffles, but recently I’ve started watching those three art TH-camrs again because they are so authentic and realistic as people
Just... thank you for this. This is why Jazza is and will forever be, the Godfather of the TH-cam Art Community.
What about MarkCrilley?
@@thomasdeckerstudios2650 He feels more like the grandfather, doesn't he?
@@agoosed3281 yes
I liked zhc for his art but then he started throwing money at everything. It wasnt even about art anymore. It was just about how expensive something could get and it just took away the magic of his drawings. The objective is money now with him, not art from within. It was a great business move on his part tho.
100% agree. That's what made me stop watching.
I felt the same too, it wasn't about the art anymore but flexing how the could get certain expensive items to customize them and no longer about doing a good piece.
Let alone he drew mostly on pencil before and he never went too deep into the craft community so he didn't really make customs that interesting (for example instead of using clay to completely transform airpod cases to look like enchanted treasure chests he just made simple grafitti on all of them).
I got recommended one of his old videos once. Then I looked at his new videos and was pretty disappointed.
There is also a difference between blatantly lying and doing a comedy bit.
Yes, this is the reason why I unsubscribed from him a long time ago. His art was so good in the beginning, but he just turned too obnoxious over time.
Hey, Jazza- I know nothing about ZHC before this- but I can tell you as someone who has carpal tunnel in both wrists, and had carpal tunnel surgery on my right hand (primary) there’s no way he has carpal tunnel. I’m not a medical expert but I’ve had real experience with it. I couldn’t hold a marker for more than a couple of minutes at its worst- let alone do 24 hours or even hour-long drawing. Either he never had carpal tunnel, made a miraculous recovery, or is in on something hard so he feels nothing. This is insulting to people who actually suffer from this. I’m not saying that carpal tunnel is on a level like cancer or something life-threatening, but it is something you struggle with constantly- day and night- and it sucks.
As a med student, I fully agree. I'm thinking more ganglion cysts, they hurt like a bitch and are incapacitating but only for like two days tops and then they leave as soon as they came, but they can come back if triggered. Drawing can be a trigger and so even then, there's no way he could pull a 24 hour-long drawing. Now, carpal tunnel? I think it's more probable he got misdiagnosed or he just straight up lied... and it's actually really hard to misdiagnose a carpal tunnel.
@@jmicolm Exactly! Like you said, it’s hard to misdiagnose. For me, they used electrodes to zap my arm and measure the delay caused by the carpal tunnel. I think each of my arms were 12+ milliseconds of delay. It’s easy for them to tell if you have it or not.
When I hard CT, I could draw for about 4 hours max and even then I would be in debilitating pain. The healthy max was about two hours.
And that's catching it EARLY. If it was discovered late, there would be NO WAY lol
@@jlryan2011 I had the same tests done- not as bad as I was expecting from people talking about it, lol. The needles were worse than the zaps! Mine turned out to be cubital tunnel though, not carpal- it was my elbow! Had surgery to fix it and now I get numbness, but no more pain.
Totally agree. I gave up on a carreer as an artist, because I get tendonitis every time I start to draw regularly. The decision was a friggin heartbreaking one and this dude disrespects everyone with actual injuries by claiming to have one for clickbait. What a brat.
I was cracked up laughing with the custom popcorns. You are so silly, I love that.
To be honest, I really enjoyed Zac’s content. His “old” or “middle” content before the content that seems “flashy”, for lack of a better term.
I still enjoy his old videos and some of his new ones (selectively, for lack of a better term), and I’ll admit I did find some things he spoke about odd (especially that spider-sona bit in the video). But I still like the art he made in it.
Now it seems like whenever I look at his videos and the thumbnails, they just don’t seem “appealing” anymore. And the videos themselves just aren’t what they used to be anymore.
I really miss the art challenges he did.
There was a point in his career where he started to clout chase more. Some of the videos later on when he was trying to generate views he'd add Pewdiepie, MrBeast, Markiplier etc in the search tags even if the video has 0 to do with them. It just feels icky AF
I loved ZHC man, but I stopped watching him when he started with the giveaways. Not too long ago I actually saw a video of his pop up again and I was surprised they were the same person
It looks like he was trying to prove his high school bullies wrong, but really just ended up proving them right.
"You have become what you swore to destroy"
@@alexkramerblogs 💯
@@alexkramerblogs 💯
Damn right
@@alexkramerblogs you were the chosen one
ZHC is just trying out his hand at roleplaying as MrBeast
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well your not wrong.. but, he does it in his own way, through his talent, he uses not only giving things away but also uses his art to make people happy.
just like mr beast zach has changed so many peoples lives, like the hospital video where he gives away money, and help people pay their medical bills. to me zach is a legend in his own way.
@@lineeskildsen2036 watch the whole video and you’ll see the lies
@@emperor8716 wait what lies? I do notice his click baiting titles, but what did he lie about in the hospital vid?
@@alliec.7302 he uses people for personal gain, nothing is genuine, did you even finish watching this video?
14:53 "that has got to be the quickest recovery to a heavily broadcast serious injury I've ever seen"
I've seen some TH-camrs bounce back from death in their next daily upload...
There’s something I’ve realized.
Money doesn’t change you, how you get your money does.
And that’s what’s happened with ZHC
Thank you for this
So basically "money" still changed you. Since you were still influenced by money for you to get your money in unethical ways.
Serious respect to Jazza for giving ZHC a fair shake and for identifying the places where he himself has pandered to the mighty algorithm. I'm also really proud of how Jazza's stayed true to his passions and built his brand/business while also building up the art community. And as a fellow dad, it's great to see that he makes time for his family even when it means passing on certain other opportunities.
Imagine making a kid and then not making time for it when it's born. It's normal to prioritize family and not even close to praise worthy.
This first sentence is true . i actually had this idea that jazza kinda does that in his videos as i was watching this video , but when he started admitting that at some videos he wasn't as "truthful" , i stopped and clapped for him .
Skillshare sponsoring a critique video
These guys have gotta be some of the most chilled sponsors I've seen
its sad because ZHC was the first art TH-camr I saw and he inspired me to start art
I remember watch ZHC in his early years, he was the reason I wanted to draw more and such. I learned a lot of anatomy from him and it was just great. I haven’t watched him in a long time
Oh! Reminds you reminded me that Jazza has an anatomy class on Skillshare! Thank you!
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Hey there checkmark
I love how passive aggressive this is lol
je-SUS
Ok
high-five! 🙏
As an artist who has a similar injury to what he was describing, I'd like to share my experience.
I honestly can't label what I have, I've been to about 8 doctors total (2 orthopedics, 2 nerve doctors, 1 nerve surgeon, 1 pain doctor, 2 physical therapists) in no specific order, just sharing it for confirmation, also excuse any faulty labels I'm translating from my mother language.
At some point I believed I had carpal tunnel, but through more doctor visits, more medical povs, and more tests and scans, we figured out it was a bit bigger than carpal tunnel. I'm saying this bec he might indeed be injured, but just believes a wrong label, I still don't believe his injury and I'll explain why in a bit.
My hand problem does indeed stem from my neck, apparently bec I look down for so long (drawing, using my phone, studying, bad posture, etc) I have pulled muscles front and back and that caused me to lose my neck curve which is putting pressure on the nerves stemming out to my arms.
My guess is that with the pressure plus the fact that I overworked myself drawing when the nerves were alr vulnerable I finally started getting symptoms. I've had pain in my hands that came and went for a few years but only when I overworked myself that it quadrupled and stayed, and only when I started relying on my left hand instead of my injured right that my left got bad as well.
My symptoms are close to carpal tunnel and ulnar nerve syndromes combined, and some unique ones. Pain points are my wrist, knuckles, palm, back of hand, all fingers (not always at once), and if I push myself really bad I feel it in my forearm and sometimes my shoulder. I also got numbness and tingling.
If he's talking about a doctor working on his neck/back then it could very much be similar to my case.
However, I never get my symptoms so suddenly and intensely as he portrayed in his video. It's more of a nagging pain that gets worse over time and use, till I rest it. Sometimes I can feel the pain without using my hands, and sometimes when I feel bad emotionally.
I've been injured since July 2020, it's still here. I had to stop drawing for months till the symptoms got manageable. And even now I can't draw for too long before I feel pain. It ranges tbh sometimes it's 40 minutes other times it's 2 hrs. 100 hrs is def not realistic to me. Even now just typing all this has triggered the pain.
I just thought I'd share to provide some context to the injury part, surely every body reacts differently, but this whole injury thing just irks me.
Thank you for sharing your experience
I'm so sorry I hope it gets better! This seems like the kind of thing that would take a huge toll on you, specially bc of our society's productivity mindset (plus keeping you from your hobby) so I hope you are managing on that front too
I have a similar story. I have weird muscle tension stemming in my cervical spine and narrow cubital tunnel. Took years to get a diagnosis of carpal tunnel and ulnar nerve entrapment. It’s brutal sometimes. Thanks for sharing your story!
My late husband had similar issues & the more he'd use his limbs, the worse it would get. There was pain & numbness in his arms & sometimes his legs (he walked at least 12 miles every day so he used his legs more than a lot of people who have more office based careers). He finally got the tests I asked for when he started getting numbness in his arms/hands while driving.
It turned out that the space his nerves traveled through was too small in one area for both the arms & legs. It was going to take 2 separate surgeries to widen those spaces. For the arms, they'd be going in through the neck &, since his arms/hands were worse, that's what they'd do first. They'd need to put a plate in his neck at the end of the surgery. He woke up with surgery pain, of course, but the pain & numbness in his arms & hands that he'd been living with for years & years was gone immediately. His neurosurgeon was spectacular.
He had to wear a neck brace & couldn't drive for 2 months but he was thrilled with the results. He was on light duty for another 2-3 months after that so scheduling the 2nd surgery was something he put off because his legs weren't nearly as annoying to him. He fell asleep while driving 4.5 years ago on his way home from work one day before he could decide to do the 2nd surgery so he never did get to experience no pain & numbness like he had wanted. I wouldn't have ever guessed what the real problem had been. We had no clue the intermittent legs & near constant arms were the same problem in different areas of the body.
@@srtatropicalia That's exactly what I struggled most with. I'd always used drawing as a coping mechanism, and have wanted to make it into my job. I drew almost everyday, I couldn't imagine life without it. So being completely unproductive and also unable to cope with the emotional pain of having to stay away from art made my life miserable for a while. I draw when I'm sad, I'm sad bec I can't draw; an unfortunate cycle.
Moreover, a month or so after the injury I started a really stressful and vital year at school that required an insane amount of workload which didn't give me a chance to heal.
I felt completely helpless and a disappointment for the most part.
I can easily say it was the darkest year of my life. But it ended, my grades weren't enough to get into the "stable job" college my parents wanted, so I got into art school instead. I like to think it was meant to be.
Though not as much as I used to, I can make art now. It hurts, but hurts less than before, so I'd like to think there's hope! Your comment made me feel understood, so thank you for that.
I really appreciate the fact that he reviewed all of ZHC's content before revealing his opinion.