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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- The MiSTer FPGA project is an amazing way to experience lag-free recreations of classic consoles and arcade boards, lag-free, on both modern and analog displays. This video shows how a took a new product called the MiSTerCade and interfaced the MiSTer into a real arcade machine. It was a lot of fun and I hope you all enjoy watching the progress!
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00:00 Opening
01:27 Installation
08:42 External Access
12:29 Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I have 12 full sized cabinets with CRTs. There’s always one game with a problem, or a restoration where the original PCB is outrageously priced. This is a fantastic temporary or permanent solution
Of all the cool stuff you show off on this channel, these mini cabs with the crt monitors make me the most jealous by far.
That's not a thing that's for sale, is it?
@@ardentdropsI'm sure some are out there used, but I've done a quick Google a few times, and it seems like they're super rare
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Me too!
Envious, not jealous. Unless he stole your stuff, which is an entirely different problem.
About an hour ago, i showed my wife this video. Thanks to you, she is finally on board to letting me invest in a MiSTerCade. Thank you so much, I can actualy build this without hiding it from her.
Excellent video! Love the level of detail and the clarity of your video close-ups. Thanks for creating this! Fun to watch!
This is amazing, excellent job.
I love this mini CRT concept.. would love to own one for Arcade Gaming 😄
This looks like a fun project! I did a mod of an Arcade1up cab a few months ago that involved changing out all of the controls and integrating a PC build, and this looks somewhat similar in scope with a couple of extra aspects to consider. I'm just now starting to look at MiSTer more lately, and this vid made me even more interested in hopping onboard.
That’s really cool. Great work
The CPS2 core through USB feels very snappy. Don’t feel any lag whatsoever.
These mini arcade cabs with crts look sweet. I also have limited space where i live. When i can afford i might get a mini arcade cab similar to this and throw a rasberry pi into it ir get a MISTER to hook up to my HDTV. Great video!
Awesome Bob! Thank you.
You know this video is going to be legit when we get Bob in socks and sandals at 3:02 LOL! Get comfy folks!
Hahahahaha
Samurai style!
Scrolled to comments to see if it was pointed out, did not leave disappointed.
I have the exact same taito bartop that's unmodified, been meaning to get a proper PSU in there and throw in something like this. Great stuff.
Well done, Bob.
Great video! You can also use a J-Pac connected to the VGA output and the USB input of a MiSTer.
Man u have a cool setup!!! Mines pretty great but just need arcades. I have a Hori 360 arcade stick I use on my jtagged 360 so pretty sweet for playing all those awesome CAVE SHMUPS. Cool vid as usual mate :)
Great video. Please more informative videos like this. (I'm looking for a more basic video about the details involved with hooking up a MiSTer to a CRT. About the ini, about the switches on the I/O board, about the cables. Thanks.)
Absolutely would love a video going over the INI. It seems most of the features are not well documented. I don't know what half of it should be used for.
A Mister inside a bar top arcade with a CRT, that's quite the upgrade over the RasPi. That's the arcade equivalent of a pocket rocket right there, awesome!
Fantastic video. It’s not arcade in your home if you’re not soldering, cutting and hacking at hardware.
Awesome !
Great to see bartops with CRT monitors in them! Very rare to see in the sea of lcd based ones. I've been meaning to build a couple myself for years. I've got a few full size cabs but a couple of crt bartops would make a nice addition I think!
You know where they sell CRT table tops?
@@AE-bm4no No idea! But i'm always thinking that i'll get around to building myself a couple one day! I do have a couple of old steel cased bartops (I think they had card games on them or something) with 80386 based PCs and CRT's in them (that used touchscreen overlays) so they could probably be fairly easily converted.
This is cool
If there was some way to make a taito egret 2 rig for the monitor then it would be perfect. Awesome project dude.
I want to one day have just 1 arcade cabinet. Nothing crazy, just a full-size, stand-up 2 player one. The idea of using a MiSTer as the core wasn't something I'd considered.
Can you tell me where you got this arcade boxes you used? Also awesome video!
cooool!
Glad to see there are mini arcades/bartops that do get the shape right. Most barcades get the shape totally wrong.
Love your channel and content, the RGB transition is very cool, but there are a couple of frames of a black rectangle off centre at the end of the that animation that seem a bit, well, off. Any chance of fixing that for all of us that are a bit OCD about things like that? 😉
Oh man, how much do those mini CRT emulation cabs go for? I absolutely want to do this!
Does anyone know the video output resolutions on the mister? Currently using groovymame with calamity ati card drivers for super resolutions. Horizontal always fits perfect and only requires vertical adjustment between each game using the crt remote board pot.
If mister is doing native res instead of super res, do you find you have to adjust horizontal as well as vertical when switching games?
pretty cool stuff.
Now if mister it had link able support for back to back muiltiplayer cabs.
Still awsome thou. Still play muiltiplayer fine with a second external joystick.
What do I do if my JAMMA Arcade has an LED monitor? I usually just plug my VGA cable directly from the board to the monitor. (I’m running a Pandora DX). is there a way just to connect my monitor directly to the Misterboard?
If I have an Arcade1Up cab modded for 60n1( so it’s jamma with a VGA monitor and the LCD converter), can I just unplug the 60n1 from the jamma harness and replace with the MISTercade and hook up to the LCD converter?
i can only find a sega net city in my area, can you connect a mister to that cap? and what about a mk 1 2 3 pcb THX
heck yeah happ bats!
I'm curious about your S-video adapter in the intro, is that from Antonio Villena?
I want to know more about that too. I've never heard of it, let alone with a nice case for an s-video mister.
@@mrb5217 I'm using Villena's adapter and it doesnt look like this... curious as well!
This mystery still not solved.
Great video as usual. Thank you, Bob! I have a Candy cab with RPI3, but the cabinet has USB controllers and for video I think a sync combiner would be enough for conecting my MiSTer, right? Also what is the name of the game at 11:15?
Thanks! Here's the game: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Mission_II
Also, you'll want to double and triple check the wiring and voltage requirements of your cab - It might need a JAMMA adapter like this, or just feed it MiSTer's RGBs output.
RetroRGB thank you, Bob. You just gained a new Patreon supporter. You are the best!
I have one old standup cabinet with CRT but its missing the PCB for the CRT, so I will have to replace it with a LCD I guess. Im very interested now in this MISTERcade solution. It still does not seem plug and play though I still have a lot of research to do on it to understand what it can do.
Great video. Such an amazing product. This is something I’ve always wanted but can only dream about owning. Here in South Africa it would cost me one months salary with the exchange rate.
Please if you or anyone reading this has a demo unit or a unit you don’t want and are willing to sell it for a lesser price please let me know.
I also live in SA. There are local shops which sale them but of low quality especially for fighting games
Great video, as always :-) One noob question; besides the vertical and horizontal arcade orientations, what is the third one? Some other aspect ratio?
Vertical in the other direction. Some have options to flip it, but others don't, so having a cab with a monitor flipped in each direction covers all use cases.
@@RetroRGB Ah, I see, thanks!
I really wish you had made a more in-depth video on the installation. I have this same exact cabinet, and I have absolutely no clue how to go about installing a new arcade power supply. I have the newer MiSTerCade that has the 5v jumper letting me use the cabinet power supply. The problem I'm having is that the video output looks wrong. Everything looks fine with the board that came with the cabinet; but when I install the MiSTerCade, the colors look blown out, like as if the contrast is too high. I noticed that the chassis has spot for a contrast adjustment, but the potentiometer is missing. I wish I knew how you got yours to look right. I've been pulling out my hair trying to figure this out!
Quick question. You mentioned you would like to have a cabinet for each orientation for 3 total. I assume 4:3, rotated 3:4, but what is the other orientation referred to? The taller displays that games like Donkey Kong and Pac-Man run on? What are those displays/ratio called? Also, were there ever any pre-HD era 16:9 arcade cabs? I feel like there would be some, but can't think of any off the top of my head.
It's just TATE/vertical orientation flipped the other way. Many games have an option to flip, so it's not totally necessary, but I'd like one for each orientation anyway :)
@@RetroRGB Thanks! So just for clarity. The aspect ratios/orientations:
First would be 4:3
Second would be TATE/3:4
And for third? Sorry if I'm missing something obvious/misunderstood 😅
@@RetroRGBAh, I think I understand now. Third would be TATE/3:4 also but literally rotated the other way. For some reason I assumed the 3:4 were typically rotated in one direction. Interesting, thanks dude!
I have this same machine, and I could really use help on how to connect the arcade power supply.
It would be good to know what the best spec projector is for gaming. Input lag test and black levels and the usual tests. Only on a fat projector. You can get rgb projectors.
BOB! Your shirt does not have Pluto on it. Therefore I am pissed Bob, PISSED!!! :P
Great result. What is that shoot em up game at 11:15 ?? Gotta try it :D Anyway, I think you are a great role model for people who are not pros at soldering and stuff :)
Thanks! It's Alpha Mission II: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Mission_II
@@RetroRGB Thanks :)
Please where did you get this CRT bartops?
where to find the case for the mister and the ioboard that we see has 0.07 ?
This is absolutely incredible. How much would a complete, pre-built unit like these cost?
Not asking for exact prices or requesting one, just curious. I'd expect somewhere north of 800USD, but don't really have an idea.
dose the MiSTerCade work with an LCD? I have an arcade remade using a Jamma.
What's up with the vertical orientation on the monitor? Everything seems up a bit too high, or not filling the screen? (I know very little about arcade CRTs so I'm sure there's a reason?)
That's a combination of the CRT's controls and the fact that each core will output slightly different video (same with swapping different arcade boards). Cabs with external controls usually have H&V centering, so this isn't a problem with those. This cab has the H&V controls buried, so I just leave it alone - It's close enough that it doesn't bother me.
Where are you finding these bartop CRT cabs?
I need that s-video i/o board , anyone have a link?
I’m wondering too.
What are the differences in features between the antonio jamma and mistercade?
I don't know if you will see this. But, how did you wire the Meanwell into the cab? My guess is the original mains goes into the MW power supply then piggybacks to the deflection board. The alternative is you split the mains where it comes into the cab and routed it to both the MW PSU and defection board? Your wiring is out of site and hard to duplicated. Any input would be appreciated.
the original chassis has it's own PSU, so I just spliced the AC input - One to the original chassis and the other to the meanwell for the arcade boards.
Replacing the chassis with a better one and using a better meanwell for the whole thing would better though. You'd just have to find a chassis to match the CRT.
@@RetroRGB Thank you so much. I already did a full recap of the chassis with a few upgrades. Increasing c561 to a 220uf x 250v helped with most of my blooming issues. c451 is timing critical and shouldn't be modified, but replacing it with an exact match fixed my fold-over issues. It's a cheap tube / chassis and I spent WAY too much on high quality caps than it is worth... but the results are fine. I ran into the exact same issue in that I can't fill the bottom of the screen no mater what I adjust. When I'm more motivated I'll replace the whole tube / chassis. In the meantime I got the same MW PSU as you, I just wasn't sure where to wire it in. Now to hit up Porkchop Express.
I mean, it's up to you, but the decision I made was to love it as-is: Sure, it might not fill the screen perfectly, but it's fully recapped and 100% safe to use. And looks awesome :)
So yeah, maybe upgrade at some point in the future, but enjoy it for now!
Aight then.
Mini arcade machines with crt's??? Where can I find those???
Jammaizer is another good solution in case people were wondering
Please, what is the name of shmup game starting at 11:20 ? Thank you.
Several years ago on Craigslist I missed out on purchasing one of those SNK mini CRT cabinet...so stupid of me argghhh!
Has anyone a link to the black case in the beginning of the video?
That's the same seller as the MiSTerCade. He's out of stock of cases right now, but you can get one without a case, then just buy the case in a month or so when they're in stock.
@@RetroRGB Thank you! And thank you for your work.
That's a twisted quarter jamma harness
I want do something similar with my 1up arcade
Trying to hunt down that svideo i/o board. I'm one of those weirdos that built his mame cab 20 years ago when svideo was prevalent. Might be easier to just try to find a component crt i guess.
It's this one. And while yes, it's aliexpress, it's the creator's personal store: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002704518934.html
There's supposed to be a US distributor soon, but if you want it now, grab the one with the Saturn AV port and a Saturn S-Video cable.
@@RetroRGB Thanks so much Bob. I will keep my eyes open for the US one for sure. Keep up the great work on the channel and site. One of my faves.
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Hi ! I'm always hyped by your videos. They contain good quality and a ton of tech info.
I'd like to have your opinion on a subject that is vastly talked about among hardware defenders compared to FPGA or RPI.
It's about INPUT LAG. Some of these people say that these devices (even hooked to a CRT) produces Input Lag because of the USB controller's nature and because of software based emulation structure. They also say that the best game to test the lag is Punch Out on Nes and they cant finish the game on RPi because of that.
What is your personal thought about it based on your experience ? Thanks a lot !
I tested the 2 (real hardware and mister fpga), no difference by activating the polling rate of the mister with the option on v-sync 2 (works with free sync monitors), the mister is even more responsive because the port usb of the controller is queried 16 times per frame while it is only once on real hardware
Still waiting for the mister core that supports Mortal Kombat... :(
Would have preferred you using quick disconnect on those microswitches.
Right? Especially after he just had problems with them. Would save so much time to just use QDs for easy swapping. No brainer.
Svideo board?
how hard is it to upgrade a regular mister to a mistercade?
You’d remove the DE-10 & RAM, then move it to the MiSTerCade board. So, the same process as upgrading MiSTer cases. Might want to check this out as well: www.retrorgb.com/dual-ram-retro-castle-mister-jamma-kit.html
4:00 Is your HT lead tied in a knot, and lying against the windings of the tube?? Is this legit?
I have two of these mini arcade machines and both came like that. Not sure if they're "legit", but it wasn't my choice.
Is that an Orion tube?
Here's a picture of the tube: imgur.com/Xc0Sj8F
Bob lets talk would consider selling this unit minus the mistercade?
Yes, but pickup only - I won't ship it. What's your offer?
@@RetroRGB can we discuss the offer away from TH-cam comments Bob?
Seems a lot more wieldy than my idea of using arcade motheborads with flashcarts by Darksoft/Apocalypse.
Those new harnesses look robust as all get out.
Mate take out the Springs from the Suzo Happ Buttons you can thank me later
Shame they don't ship to the UK
Not really sure why you went to such lengths to avoid enlarging / adding a hole on the back, given you happily drilled larger holes all over the front panels. Using your hole saw on the back would have allowed for USB-A and full-size HDMI. You could even fit flush mount USB hub (there's ones that fit circular holes).
Simple: The holes drilled in front will be used with MiSTerCade, real arcade machines, Raspberry Pi...pretty much everything I can think of will use them, so if I ever put the MiSTerCade in a different machine and turn this into, say, a PGM box, I'll still use them. Alternatively, cutting a hole for HDMI and USB is ONLY something I'd use with an emulation solution, so I didn't want it to be permanant.
Please follow up that Sega Master System 3D tease comment!!!!
How is this different to the J-PAC?
Zomg calipers!!! 🤪🤪🤪 Lol jk.
I want a Mistercade and rushed over to the preorder page but USD$85 for shipping to Australia?
Ridiculous
But RetroRGB, why didn't you use a Neutrik?
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Running out of space in a little NY apartment? Do a giveaway :)
And it’s expensive!