Beech Log vs Firewood Processor
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Joe your wood yard is setup so nice. The roof will be a great addition. Another great tool in the trusty tool box.
I love how you support local Joe, from the shipping container you bought, and now the carport, both local companies to Ohio. Amen to that Joe. Well done
Well, that was fun to watch.. thank you for taking us along, Joe 😉👍
My pleasure Dan!!
Great video Joe. Interesting analysis of the different woods. Good idea for shelter. Much needed in this day and age. Cheers from HB N Z
You are speaking the truth cliff
Thank you for sharing your business plans. This site is a must see for all interested in how a small businesses starts from the beginning.
Thanks for the nice words Roger!
Joe’s business ideas is what drew me to his channel & is the reason I watch every video…just waiting for his “nuggets of knowledge “! Tim in northern TN
The 405 handled that beech very well.👍
Cakewalk!
Another good video Joe! I love watching the 405 in action. Can't wait to see the roof over the machine. - Tim
stay tuned Tim!
Joe that 405 is the king of box wedges, pure Power! 👏Enjoy your DR Pepper my friend 🤘🏻🪵🇺🇸
haha. Thanks guys. i still have the unboxing to do. Stay tuned!
We burn a mix of red oak hard maple soft maple ash yellow birch and beech. At night we always fill the wood stove beech.
Glad the roof plan is going to take shape very soon, can't wait to see it in May. The 405 did an awesome job on the beech, what a monster.
It is an AWESOME machine Bill!! Cant wait to see you again too buddy
This was really impressive how nice of splits the Perfect Split made of the Beech. It is so hard and can tend to shatter like glass instead of splitting and end up being a unusable product!👍
Thanks for watching Wayne!
Hi from Denmark.
I make beech every year, 20-30 full cords a year. Logs 9 foot long, 10-20" thick, and have done it for 35 year.
The trees are cut down jan/feb., cut 12" long and split around 3" thickness in april and in aug/sep. the moist is around 15-17%.
If we get heavy rain I cover it, in that time.
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Hello from Ohio USA. Thanks for posting and I hope you are doing well. I may be in Germany this summer. Prob too far for you to come visit but at least we will be on the same continent!
Beech is the second best firewood, in my opinion, only surpassed by black locust. Around here in the Catskills of New York, there’s plenty that’s left in the woods by the bigger, logging operations, usually perfect firewood diameter sticks that weren’t worth them dragging out, or what they leave behind after they take the stump for the mill. Once it’s on the ground, it rots quick, so get it before the fungus does!
Pretty good info about beech in referring to my own experience. So,keep it up and everyone will be happy!
Thanks Ray. Will do buddy
Good Day Joe commenting from the Arctic -45 -50 degrees Celsius here for another month then heading home. Starting to get firewood producing withdrawal lol. Does not get old seeing that perfect split produce amazing firewood. Cheers my friend
stay warm up there buddy. That is TOO cold for me!
Okay you split that beech without any problem now when you have some more I'd like to see it go through the 6 and 8 way splitter, if it works then I'll be 1000 percent impressed.
Can you get an extension for the log desk so that it is three frames instead of two or just move the log deck further from the splitter so the logs are balanced better? Great Video as always - I like beech for turning on the lathe.
Beech is a great wood to burn. Burns hot, burns down to a fine white ash, rounds make good "overnighters". Nice splitting with the Japa 👍
Thanks Lyle
Joe…I always marvel at your presentation skills, keeping your work interesting. 👍
Thanks buddy!
Beech will dry faster than you think especially on how small the yapa splits it.
good to know. I have a small pile I made last summer so I will check it out
Hi Joe - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. It's those kinks and knots in the wood producing the resistance that cause the log to explode. I know from the sound of my splitter when it going to happen so it doesn't surprise me.
beech sure is an interesting wood isn't it Big R? Thanks for posting sir.
A question or observation. There is a safety grate to protect the operator. An excellent preventative measure. The videographer really gets into the output from the machine and has no shield in the event of the wood being ejected unexpectedly.
Yep
Good morning, it looked like the saw was the one having difficulty with the beech. Elaine from Canada here, thought I heard a little struggle with the 405, but wondered if you even had it at full throttle? And It was so quiet, was it on low idle? Nice video, nice weather, nice plans for a cover, nice Joe. Heh heh, hope everything goes well, and have a great productive week, cheers.
This chain was slightly dull and I had the pressure set too high. That is why it bogged down when I was first running. Thanks Elaine!
Great video and job joe
Glad you enjoyed it Bob!
Joe Beech is lovely wood to burn, 3 weeks ago my local man brought me 5 loads all dry ready to burn. which is rare in these parts normally its damp not even seasoned
I think green beech would put a fire out. It is SUPER wet inside
Beech begins its life out in the woods reaching for all the light its leaves can get. Some branch out 8 to 10 feet in all directions. They blocked my view, ease of walking in the woods, etc. And those branches are what cause so many knots. When I would use a maul to split Beech I'd split it within 2 days of cutting or wait until it was frozen. I had a DR Rapidfire which split it anytime, but it always was easier within 2 days of cutting or if the rounds were frozen. Nice video. 👍
thanks for commenting and sharing with us Jack
Nicely done Joe, that’s a beechin’ machine 😅
Har har!! Thanks Bob!
Thanks for another great video, Joe! Really glad I subbed your channel. This might be the wood nerd part of me....but I'm always curious about length of time from split to dry to ready to burn. Do you ever keep any records on that for various species?
I have a similar climate to you and stack my wood in a very similar manner.
I am very bad with record keeping. It seems that most Woods except Oak and Beach and Hickory are around 6 months
Joe, I stopped buying those blue tarps years ago. They are too thin and flimsy and don't hold up well at all. The next time you are at harbor freight take a look at the silver tarps. They cost a bit more of course but are much more durable and will last noticeably longer.
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Joe. That japa is an awesome machine. Easton made needs to take some pointers.
haha. Both do great at what they do!
Nice inventory of logs 🪵 😮
Thanks Nick
Nice setup
Thanks Tony!
Could you get a second live deck next to the first one to accommodate longer logs?
I think that is possible. I am looking for a wider live deck that Japa makes. Stay tuneds
@@ohiowoodburner That does seem to be the essence of your problem, needing a wider live deck. Seems like that would pay for itself with more efficient handling,
I probably sound like a broken record here but that processor is amazing. Everytime i see these 100k-200k processors run, they produce horrible oversized pieces of firewood. This machine makes what customers actually want in the same amount of time! This perfect split box wedge is the best of the best imo
Nice post Dorchy. I agree. The 405 is everything you can want in a processor. AND the price is the best of all the others that can keep up with it
I’ve also learned that burning beech seems to have less ashes.
I have heard that but I never have burned for myself Harold
Watching you process beech made me understand the phrase, “Life’s a beech!” because it is tough.
haha. I agree Bill!
I’ve also seen guys bolt carports down to those big cement blocks
I had looked into that but I want to be able to walk around it with out anything in my way
Out of all the machines that I have seen I really like that 405. By the way not sure if I said anything but I got my heart monitor off Monday starting to feel a bit better but still get tired throughout the day. Keep your videos real Joe 😎.
Hope you are doing well Frank. Hang in there buddy!
Great Video as always Joe. The 405 Hammered right Thru it my Friend, that is the Beech. Still recovering but hoping to get out next Monday to start Cutting some up. Limited to 1hour a Day for doing Wood for 2 weeks. Congratulations on getting your Carport style unit to keep you Protected from the Elements. Could you give me your Pod Cast that everyone does for Wednesday Woodhounds. Thank you all for your warm wishes on my Recovery , I had 3Heart Stents put in and am now doing fine. Joe, becareful out there as it's very easy to get Hurt. See you atbthe next Video my Friend.Ron from the Woodyard in Duanesburg NY.
Glad to hear you are on the mend Ron Here is a link to the podcast
www.thewoodhounds.com/e/blinding-ourselves-with-science/
I've only split Beech a couple times but I have had a few rounds with a real wavy grain and supper tough to split.
I agree. Beech is tough but also gets some wavy grain inside
Congratum, finally getting a cover over the machine. And as you say yourself, it'll be so good to work in the shade when it's 90° out in the summer time.
And instead of just being a conventional round it are upside down, you shape. You should see if they got one. That's like a bat wing shape and that way. You can keep the upright legs close sir, the length of the yapa. It's self, but the outstretched wing would be enough to cover. Half of the live decked and going the other way. It may even cover part of the conveyor or cleaneralthough I know it's not needed back anyways , it'll be interesting to see what it works and looks like
I tried to find the biggest one I could get for the lowest price LOL. I'm curious to see how it fits. Supposed to put up tomorrow but big rain is in the forecast. Stay tuned
How long do you expect the beech to dry? Beautiful wood
not sure but I think it could be ready to go next winter
Could you add a section to the live deck so you don’t have to shorten the logs
well, there is a wider deck made by Japa... Hint Hint Japa LOL
Joe what is the length of the cleaner and conveyor for you setup
the outfeed off the Japa is 14 feet. I'm not sure what the cleaner is. I will find it and let you know
Joe great idea putting a car port over your working area . The sun 🌞 rays are hard on your equipments in the wood 🪵 yard . Remember expensive are a right off in the business 🧑💼 with a good accounting and lawyer on the book 📖 . 😊
I am both of those with OWB. LOL.
Next step is to get a tractor with a cab to work in the rain and snow.
haha. I prefer to not work in the rain but I could use that AC in the cab during the summer! I would prob never leave it lol
Joe, could you run a carbide tip chain ? They are expensive, but they stay sharp longer. Just curious. Good show.
I had never looked into them. The standard stuff seems good enough. I get about 6 tables on one chain
Nice wood 👍🇧🇻
Thanks Ole
The 'car port' guys should like the free advertising. Tell them you're kind of a big deal on the TH-cams.
Haha. I have learned that some businesses Etc have zero care about that LOL
The thing I can’t get over with these processors is the restrictions on the diameter, is it a problem with your log orders that you have to have logs under a certain size?
Not where I'm from. All the bigger logs go to the mills in Middlefield. They are worth twice as much there as they are for firewood. With the price of lumber going up the mills are buying smaller and smaller logs which makes things even smaller when they get to my yard. It seems everyone thinks "big" in firewood when i think smaller is the way to go. Smaller machines are cheaper to buy. Here is a vid I was in on a diff channel where I discuss this. Thanks for your comment SSR
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@@ohiowoodburner That was a great video with lots of info, most I already knew but now I have a better understanding about the smaller logs. There is a Yapa 435 Perfect split for sale on marketplace in Missouri, will take a 20" Thank for the info Sir!
And just for the record...
I am NOT a scientist and have been known to partake in smoked meats!🤣🤣
haha! Blinding me with science Wayne!
@@ohiowoodburner 🤣🤣
Hello 👋 Joe I like the beach 🏖️ also surly you do also 😮😊❤
haha Thanks Todd!
You are killing me using Beach for firewood. Around here Beach is worth more in log form then you could ever get for it as firewood.. Same goes for Basswood
Interesting to hear. I believe beech around here is used for pallets and other applications requiring tough wood
@@ohiowoodburner nice new specie called Beach😂, maybe it’s T9
Do you sharpen your chains yourself? I recently bought one of those ezzdoo sharpening tools and am very pleased with the results I've got. I have been using a file for years and they are ok but the,diamond bits the ezzdoo uses are super and will return the teeth to like new with no effort. Give it a try and I think you won't look back.
I don't do my own chains. I have a grinder but I just don't like doing it. I take them into town for my buddy to sharpen them
Good morning Joe ,
Good morning Pete!
🎶🎶 On some Beach; somewhere...🎶🎶- Blake Shelton.
Nice!
Beech , g🎉reat wood ,put up 5 cord , split and stacked 20 months back, burns hot , holds coals very good , rated a notch above red/ white oak , enjoy your fire , early spring .
Great to hear about beech. I like working with it no doubt
The hoop house could not have been repaired/replaced?
No it was mangled beyond repair
Does Japa make a wider live deck? You didn't lose your custom cookie prevention tape measure did you? 😁
haha. They do make a wider table. Stay tuned. I still use the tape for particular logs I try to keep them full length
Joe you can put any wood on there and you won't ever stall that kubota engine.
So far that is true. No jambs ever with it.
The roof is a great idea my dog agrees
haha. Thanks Mr Hill.
Are you getting a Carolina carport over your equipment 16:52
wonder why you did not make some chewing gum? 🤣
haha. I chewed it as a little boy. I can't remember the last time i ever chewed gum. Just doesn't seem for me
Joe with your 405 japa should easy do two logger truck load a day in 8 hrs . If the japa is set up 🆙 right on the hydraulic joe . Remember STICK on the ICE 🧊, SAW in the WOOD 🪵 and RUBBER on the ROAD . The 37D EASTONMADE will splitter it with NO PROBLEM JOE . Patty and Jeff pull the firewood 🪵 threw the 37D for sure .
I need an army of stackers to reach the full potential of the 405 Len!
Fresh cut beech needs close to 2 years to be fully seasoned, even when split in my experience.
I think you may be right. It is super wet inside and very dense
Hey 👋 Joe
Hey there
Ain't hydraulics amazing, who knew?
Yep
Looks like the wood kinda stalls on the way out on the vibrating plate.
Joe I burn a lot of beech. On my upstate New York property it’s dying . Tops break off and I cut and clean it up. Great burning wood.🪵🔥👍
It is super nice wood for sure Bob