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Fun fact. The Bethesda ruins was an actual location in Fallout 3.
Really? And it wasn’t just modded in for the bit?
@@ShadiC636 Nope. The location he actually cut to was a ruined church but the Bethesda Ruins is an actual office building you can explore in 3.
I remember finding it and doing a double take. Checked the game cover. Funny enough I found nothing interesting in them
@@lorddanielthesecond73bruh, not even surprised XD
@@lorddanielthesecond73 what you missed the booblehead in the ruins D:
I think this reaction needs the mindbreak tag
I think a lot of Paws reactions could have that tag xD
Particularly the last one she did
Bit too much for my taste
@@davidcastillo4141 i mean, it's my reaction too, just one disaster after another.
My favorite one...
Oh yes 😂 and of corse a multimilon dollar corperarion cant afford to use canvas in there canvasbags 😂
The duffel kerfuffle best arc in the story
It's a shame he didn't mention the helmet "problem"... 😞😄
It's honestly a miracle in my opinion that Bethesda came away from this game without a serious lawsuit that bankrupted the company. What they did with Fallout 76 is the worst I've ever seen from a Triple A game company
Gaming companies get away with a lot of stuff, it's pretty crazy when you think about it 😅
How did they get away without a serious lawsuit? Did the class action lawsuit not go through?
@@felixthescholarlytitan4437 if it did go thought it was behind close doors from the public
@@felixthescholarlytitan4437 nobody really got anything out of it, not to mention that all of the reasons they got sued for were addressed pretty soon after the fact.
@@felixthescholarlytitan4437
The two biggest complaints that the class action lawsuit was to hold them accountable for were addressed before the suit could be filed.
1) They stopped being inconsistent with refunds and posted clear rules about what they would and wouldn't accept for a refund.
2) They did make and ship out replacement bags made of canvas to all who preordered the PA edition and requested a replacement bag, free of charge.
Now for The Engooding Of No Man's Sky to see the good ending
This
Including the fanfiction at the end? Then, sign me up.
To answer your questions about the Dev Room: Its there to enable live testing of items and gear and debugging under the live service's real world workloads. There is one for most live service games like Apex Lengends Fortnite, etc. Unlike most live service games though, Bethesda is dragging the rotting corpse of Fallout 3/Skyrim's ancient game engine which was a buggy mess even back then. (Ironically one of the reasons these games were modded so extensively!) It's security hovers between laugh inducing and non existent. Your idea to kill players that enter the dev room was on point as it happens on other games from different companies. What is more, most developers auto-ban any player account that enters such places reserved for the game testing staff without the proper whitelisted Dev accounts.
Thanks! I didn't work on live service games when I was in QA, so most testing rooms/codes are removed on launch from builds by default. Interesting to hear about it existing on a live service game. Still wild they didn't put protection in place 😅
@@pawsvtuber That being said the single player games still have the Dev Rooms and you can go there with a teleport console command. I'm guessing they either left it in for fun or didn't see a reason to bother removing it and that lax approach likely carried over?
@@ExActa Oh no, its way worse. The DevRoom has to exist and it HAS to contain every single item ingame. The garbage creation engine does not work corretly without it existing.
@@animalm4st3r So wait but what happens if I teleport there in, say, Skyrim, empty it and delete all the items. Because I've definitely played around with that room out of boredom alot.
@@ExActa nothing happens, the Dev rooms exists for testing and debugging of items like the original post said. Bethesda simply never saw much of a point in deleting it in their single player games. It's also there it exist for modders that do fairly large mods that implement new weapons and game mechanics cause it exists as a easy to find place in the code and files to allow them to modify items so the game wont crash.
I recommend Internet Historian's "Engoodening of No Man's Sky" next for, let's say, "Another approach" to the same mistake
4:47 For a context, This game suppose to be human-NPC free. Only robot-NPC
Bethesda literally set themselves up for their own downfall. So many lawsuits and “unintentional” false advertising situations leading to more lawsuits. Now the creators of Escape from Tarkov are pulling a similar stunt.
The Engoodening of No Man's Sky is a good one too!
50 GB patch download in 5 mins. Damn I gotta go to Romania.
Here in Australia that's about 6 to 12 hours
In California for me that would be about half an hour if nothing else was running on my playstation
@@LunarBloodRose27 ew, commiefornia.
Keep the fast internet, I don't want to rusk stepping on used needles laying around.
Fiber is also slowly becoming the default in the Netherlands for most households. Gigabit internet aint too rare here anymore.
@@LunarBloodRose27 > my playstation
If only there was anything worth downloading
ooh god 2018 was 6 years ago
shh, it was yesterday, I swear 😭
@@pawsvtuber thanks it was yesterday 🤨🧏♂
came for the booba, stayed for the cutie
So I guess you aren't gonna watch the video then?
I dont want to touch the booba I don't wanna touch the booba I don't wanna touch the booba I wanna touch the booba darnit!
@@jacobfield5227 There was a video?
@@zelg.5551 i think so
You realise she probably looks nothing like that?
40:37 yes you can code a design. Since molds are used in the production you need someone to make them. Molds are mostly produced in CNC machines (Computer Numeric Controlled) or in other words the machine runs a programm containing the tool path. Depending on the software you are using to create the tool path you need to write the path your self, however in newer software you can simply drag your 3D file in to it and the programm will do everything for you. When i had to learn how to use CNC in training to become an industrial mechanic, we had to write the code our self. So we had to calculate where the center of every curve. And that in 3D. It's time consuming and depending on how complex the part is it's really hard and hurts your head
Thanks for the extra info!
Interesting, thanks for sharing your experiences
He doesn't talk about it, but I also heard that the helmets sold in the power armour addition for the game were also just as much of a clusterfuck. Apparently the material used for the helmet was easily creating mold that was actually a danger to the customer's health if they wore it. That's the kind of shit that can get your company shut down for good, but somehow that didn't happen.
Even if it wasn't worn the mold that grew inside the helmet was apparently the type that released a massive amount of spores under the slightest of movements
@@vexile1239 Jesus.
@@vexile1239my god isn't that called a biohazard??
@@LunarBloodRose27 yea
Ah yes, i love when the helmet i preordered to supposedly protect oneself from the biohazards in the wasteland is in itself....A BIOHAZARD.
45:45 It's actually far worse. The push-to-talk was added so you could NOT talk. Before that the voice chat was just always active at all times!
Fallout New Vegas is a good option to go to if you want to try a really good Bethesda game. It was made by Obsidian, and does need some mods for the best experience (like the 4GB patch), but it’s a really fun game overall
That's one of the few I'm willing to still try from them 😅
It might as well not even count as a Bethesda game. Like you said, it was made by Obsidian. If only Obsidian could have made an entirely new engine just for that game, it might have actually ran well. That said, I do agree it is by far the best out of Bethesda's Fallout games.
@@TrxPsycheand bethesda absolutely hates the game and actively despise everyone who plays it
@@TrxPsyche The sad part is Bethesda used to be a good game studio.
Morrowind was Great partly because it respected player agency.
Oblivion was ok, it had some improvements over Morrowind like the ability to cast spells with a weapon but overall it was a downgrade.
And I haven't played Daggerfall but I've heard pretty good things about it.
But starting with Fallout 3 their games took a massive dip in quality and the only thing I liked about it was weapon jamming and the game's atmosphere.
@@pawsvtuber it's arguably the best Fallout game so if you're looking to try one out, I'd say it's the best choice
Funny enough was thinking of rewatching this IH video yesterday so seeing your reaction to the whole debacle makes it all the better.
Glad you enjoyed it, it was certainly an amusing story😅
I actually like FO4, in fact I'm replaying it now. Sure the main quest sucks, but it has plenty of redeeming qualities, like the companion quests/exploration/settlement building. Plus mods make it way better.
I like the gameplay and mechanics of 4 but I want it combined with the in depth storytelling of New Vegas.
And also the next gen update that you can wear Enclave Power Armors and arming Tesla weapons.
This. 4 made me fall in love with the franchise. Didn't like the originals (CRPGs don't do anything for me), 3 was going the direction I wanted but was clunkier than 4. Never played New Vegas 'cause I never liked Obsidian's stuff.
Ms. Waggytails here don't see the greatness that 4 brings to the table. That greatness being Curie, god bless.
I like to go back to 4 every now and then. I liked the shooting and gun mods
And this is a perfect example for why you can't just take a single player game engine and piece-meal it into a multiplayer one.
so true
76 while still somewhat buggy is not that bad now from my experience.
Fallout 76 has one of the friendliest communities I have ever seen. It might even be friendlier than Deep Rock Galactic. I seriously mean that.
First started Playing at the start of 2023 as a new player you got more than enough to do and explore. When I was level 20 some random level 800 guy stopped by my camp and gave me over 2000 of each color flux (a end game crafting material that's very hard and tedious to get).
Whenever I was confused someone would always give me a rundown on what's what.
Not only that its had several updates in the year since I started playing.
There was a massive influx of new players recently because it was made free due to the release of the Fallout TV show and me and a massive group of higher level players did a road trip chasing down all the new players like lethal level 300+ power armored Santa Clause to give them massive donations from our stockpiles. Then we would server hop and do it all again.
the funny thing is, Bethesda just updated fallout 4 because of the tv show and IT BROKE ALL THE MODS PEOPLE USE to actually play the game. Literally had to look up how to DOWNGRADE my fallout 4 game so i can keep using my mods.
I heard about that, it's so sad :(
It just works dood!
"Vtubers react to Internet Historian's The Fall of Fallout 76" is still my favorite TH-cam genre.
yknow, i kinda understand why they did the essays thing. while they were mocked for it, i think the whole point was to mock the cheaters, treat them like little kids who don’t know better. basically just a more condescending ban appeal. it could have worked if the game was actually good enough to incentivise not cheating.
I can confirm that every single thing in IH's video actually happened. Bethesda was that brazen and incompetent during the launch and after.
26:35 let's be honest, the plastic soldiers, kinda cool. Toy Soldiers have always been plastic.
Nope, they used to be made from Tin. Hence the name tin soldiers. Even had some when I was growing up.
I wouldnt call fo4 boring. Stupid, dumb, lazy are the few words that come to mind
They stopped using design documents by skyrim, they simply use the method of throwing bodily waste at a wall and see what sticks
Fo4 wasn't even bad, it's main focus was more on combat and had the settlement building thing. For a lot of people they loved the game.
@@evanmcc99 the gameplay was a strong point but almost all the quests were a crappy disjointed mess of words that made no sense
@@evanmcc99 Combat was mediocre, I dont really find enjoyment in ventilating bandits/mutants skulls who are standing in the open. Oldass Stalker has better enemy ai, they take cover and attempt to flank you. Fo4's is a blatant powerfantasy for the disabled
2:46 I've never heard you laugh like that before
What happened with the dev rooms is the same answer across all Bethesda titles: spaghetti code. Seriously, the Creation Engine is so archaic that none of the remaining devs understand the code that makes dev rooms work, meaning they're always a recurring issue, like the various Skyrim NPC loot chests. Hell, until a modder accomplished it, BETHESDA believed player-driven vehicles were simply impossible on the Creation Engine.
Someone actually did speed run the game and got all the trophys
What did they get
Bethsheda Banned their account for life because they thought they were cheating
People reacting to this is the gift that keeps on giving
I like to watch this video every once in a while to remind myself to never trust bethesda ever again
Fallout76 wasn’t a no man’s sky situation, not even a cyberpunk situation
They made a huge mistake and proceeded to double, even triple down on it
Idk how good the game is today but man unless Todd releases Elder Scrolls 6 on a new engine, on a fair price, with no micro transactions they’re screwed
"Fallout76 wasn’t a no man’s sky situation, not even a cyberpunk situation"
"Idk how good the game is today"
Its so painfully obvious you don't read back through your poorly thought out message before actually posting it LOL
@@Excallius243 bro I was talking about how the game launch was a disaster but the people behind it showed how much they cared by improving the game
76 had banning sprees, no refund scams, offensive micro transactions, it’s absolutely different from no man’s sky and cyberpunk lmao
When i referenced those two I wasn’t talking about it being a better game nowadays, I was talking about the way they handled the criticism and treated the player base
I recently started F76 as a fallout fan that never touched that game with a 10 foot pole in the previous years.
It's actually quite decent. still weird bugs, not a fan of the multiplayer part and you can't change the world much in events. But I'm enjoying the systematically searching of places and discovering its lore with tapes, notes and computers.
No way near No man's sky's redemption, but not bad either.
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 honestly if the game is fun nowadays that’s really good but doesn’t change the fact that they release this broken ass game, scammed people, never apologized for it and patched it out as it went
It’s just sad to see what bethesda became yknow, is sad to see Todd resort to shit like this when they could release fallout 5 with an different or updated engine and make on of the best games of the decade but they won’t it’s just gonna be another broken game that they’ll leave for the community to fix with mods
For reference, I was hacked on my WoW account back in like 2009/10 and my character had all his equipment sold, all the money and mats sent to a burner account, and the character deleted. I contacted Blizzard (old GOOD Blizzard) and within 24 hours, I had not only my character restored, but everything I owned as well. That was nearly TEN YEARS before 76 where simply restoring a deleted character is apparently impossible. AAA devs don't know how to code anymore.
The account switch is technically impossible to fix because many modern comapnies are using block chain instead of a database. So when they said they couldn't do anything about it, sounds about right.
2:51
"You got any games on your phone?"
Just found you. If you don't mind me saying, your laugh was absolutely magical in this reaction.
The thing about Fallout fans and most gamers out in the wild is they'll still inhale whatever slop comes out of their favourite publisher even as they complain. ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
I'm only 1/5 of the video and the rabbit hole goes even deeper holy.
"I've never played Skyrim"
I... What... Can those words even be used together in a sentence? Are you human? Were you born in the last ten years? WHAT ARE YOU???
I'm not human, I'm a vampire. That aside, I never got into Bethesda games, no idea why. I believe back when Skyrim released, I was busy with guild wars 2 and programming a ton IRL. 😅
the homemade glass bottles look kinda good and I really liked the pencil drawing sticker.
Did you see the 6 pack of dark?
@@vexile1239 Also very good
For those wondering why the character looked stretched, it was bug with the Power Armor; when your character got into the Power Armor, for some reason the armored disappear leaving a stretch naked avatar.
I agree that it sucks that Bethesda relies on the fans to mod and fix their games. Heck, starfield with its 90% uninhabited planets are basically building blocks for modders. Why add stuff to them, only for mods to remove it? Better to have a clean slate to mess with, and not waste time on, I guess.
As for fallout 4, it wasnt the best, but it wasnt too bad. Fallout 76 was that, but also without mods. Well, the mods were basically paid perks.
Highers ups must have really thought people would love to pay for mods. But the only reason skyrim is still so popular(as a base) is because of all the free mods. Sucks whenever they do "enhanced editions" or updates that break basically all mods until/if the creators also update their mods (looking at you fallout 4 "next gen" update" and fallout london mod delay)
The only reason we don't have paid mods is because of push-back. The Creation Club would have become our only option for mods if they thought they could get away with it.
About the modders and starfield, I heard over 80% of them gave up just by looking at the game, I know the ones making skyblivion went eff that to starfield
@@josefsieffen18 I would say there was two reason.
one CC counted was made using the new mod extension that was really limited in its size.
like a mod like simsetlemnt or the WorkshopDLC could have 1000th lines of code 100th variables in use.
CC content was locked at like 1KB of code + model size.
then comes the fact you could buy the creator content Chinese stealth suit for about 2usd or pay 5-10 for the WorkshopDLC that had 20sets of clothing, a full 3 settlement, 100th pieces of furniture for settlement and so on.
or how about paying 2usd for a paint scheme for the T-45 armor, not the T-51 or the x-1 or any other power armor.
oh and the 45 is missing the paint for the head.
The reason for the dev room, is so Beth can do testing with any in game item, there's a dev room in every game they've made that be accessed on PC, this goes to show that this game was literally slapped together as they were still very much treating it like a single player game in a development and testing sense. One thingbthat he doesn't go into that caused a lot of controversy, was that in the beginning there were NO human NPCs, Beth planned on players being the only active part of the world, but in the dev room there was a human NPC that was used as a test dummy, meaning they COULD have human NPCs, they just chose not to. They corrected this later in DLC but it was too late for many.
As another person with a coding degree (software engineering, specifically), I felt that same amount of pain over that part of the Duffel Kerfuffle as well. I don't envy the jobs of the security folks generally, but I still try to do my part to keep things secure.
Then you hear stories like this and take sanity damage.
3:16 Paws, that rock might've saved you from losing brain cells xD
Path of exile is free to play and they don't have any of those pay to win booster packs where you can pay 60$ to instantly level up to 100 or something that blizzard does so the only way they make money is from cosmetics.
Path of Exile is free to try, I'd argue playing the game without spending any money is masochistic. That being said, the game is also predatory, just in a different way. And their recent monetization choices are not just cosmetic, but provide features and functionality that you get for free in every other game. 👍
Dungeon Defenders just unlocked ancient memories, that game was (is) amazing!
Fuck, now I wonder if I can remember my account details. Maybe I linked it to my steam? I'll have to check after work.
Little FYI about the Power Armor Edition, the helmet actually was later found to have mold in it.
_"Fallout Standards"_
~said Bethesda calmly.
45:07 If you look carefully, you will see that this isn`t a bottle. It`s a lamp
Yes, but it is still molded from glass. And way, way cheaper. And actually requires electronics which are pricier than just a hollow shell. Basically it just makes it worse, not better.
@@Ragedaonenlonely glass? Not ceramic?
@@pakboris2268 Yes? Bottles are typically made of glass.
@@Ragedaonenlonely I mean a lamp
@@pakboris2268 I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said.
I actually like Fallout 4... I'm a builder and an explorer so I'm never bored.
I liked fallout 76 too but thats cuz I played it years after I got it for Christmas. We never had internet before (i live in Chicago and my family just never thought it was needed on anything other than the cellphones).
We got internet for the first time in 2020... i think...
I spent my older brother's money (with his aproval) and I was pretty chill... building, hanging with friends...
Never once beat the game though... stupid cryptids man... wendegos and snalygasters are my kryptonite.
It did get boring fast... Fallout 4 is better because at least I can explore and build settlements... flesh out whole storytelling that fits into the lore... I have about 20 characters... that's 20 playthroughs.
Never gets old for me...
Still havent beat Fallout 4 either, i get destrcted with the side missions and building lol.
That's very wholesome overall, I'm glad you're having a lot of fun with it! Thanks for sharing your perspective 🥰
The Historian plays the straight man, but he's actually hilarious 😂
28:40 That line got turned into a song. "It Just Works", by the Chalkeaters.
We have been blessed today 🙏
Starting to fall in love with that laugh.
i dont know if anyone pointed this out but dev rooms are for testing items quickly and efficiently and instead of removing it its faster just to move it somewhere you cannot normally access, most times off the playable map in the void. given how easy and broken the game was getting to the dev room was very easy.
20:26 someone hook her up with Fallout New Vegas RN.
Even I who is just learning IT in school knows that you always want to keep data private, the only thing public is the functions so other "classes" can use them
As a web developer, the part about all customer support tickets being visible to everyone is wild to me and also hurts my brain. That kind of insecure code should not pass code review.
Also feels like a GDPR violation. Would not want to touch that mess with a long stick.
Good video btw.
Dungeon Defenders... That's a memory 😊
IDK how anyone could buy any new bethesda product after the parade of failure and naked greed that was 76.
Did ANYONE think they'd get better? Really?
Fallout 5 will be good. There is no physical way that Bethesda will let fallout 5 be bad.
Heres your answer 32:13
@@pangopango3939Oh you poor sweet summer child.
@@prometheus1815 that's not an answer for why the people let it happen, it's a reason bethesda keeps doing it.
@@pangopango3939 we'll see. After all their greed and failures I suspect they are incapable of releasing a game without parasitic, game-breaking monetization.
really glad i ressisted the urge to start playing this series and start field phew
I do not use in game stores in any game I play, BUT I personally do not mind a game with microtransactions under ONE condition. The items being sold have no effect on gameplay or give a player power or any advatage over other players. So if all they sell are cosmetics and mounts/pets then I have no issue with it. If someone wants to buy that stuff, good for them as it has NO effect and me or my playing of the game.
It is when they add the pay to win bullshit that directly effects the game or gives players extra power over those who do not use the store is where I take issue.
TF2 is good in that regard. There are weapons that can be bought but the basic game mechanics means they are SIDE grades rather than upgrades. You still need to have actual skill with it or else you will die, a lot. For example the bazooka weapon called "The Direct Hit" has been nicknamed "The Direct Miss" and "The Best Melee Weapon In The Game" because of the aforementioned player skill requirement.
Gotta love the pay-walled quality of life items locked away by the shop (the scrap box and ammo box)
Edit: you can't buy those particular items you can only rent them with fallout 1st
45:40 No no u could talk to ppl inside the game even before this update that wasent a problem. The problem was that u were ALWAYS talking in the game and u couldent turn it off. Unless u unplugged your mic or turned it off in your computer settings everything your mic picked up were broadcasted inside the game from the moment u logged in and there were ALOT of ppl close to eachother in the biginning. I´m sure u can imagen the pure chaos resulting from that in the first few days especially from young ppl and those that dident realise that everything there mic picked up was heard by every player within range. The amount of screaming and random background noice was out of control.
Watching this video almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter... Sorry I'll see myself out 😂
the dev rooms are there because the engine needs a container in the game with all the items to be able to generate loot ,thats why shopkeeps in bethesta games have a hiden (some better than others)chest/cach nearby where all the items are stored that they sell. also its the room dev's normaly test new stuff, when i create mods myself, i generaly have also a room set up to test stuff and have the container for the loot tables hookins there.
You're not ready for the light wood laminate remix.
Regarding the Push To Talk thing, it wasn't that it finally allowed you to talk in the game. Fallout 76 came with open mic settings, with no option in-game to shut off your mic. So if your parents started screaming in the background, everyone on the server could hear it, unless you unplugged your headset.
I’ll be honest when this was initially announced I knew it was doomed. Multiplayer with the creation engine? Fuck no. Modders had been working for over a decade to get any of the fallout and elder scrolls multiplayer mods working correctly and it was super janky because of the engine limitations. And Bethesda was going to roll in with less than 3 years of development time and have a working multiplayer game? Bullshit.
18:05 Dev room is for testing stuff. For simplicity it made inside of game and has no protection because it a waste of resources
Waste of resources is what they did by not putting protection in place :(
@@pawsvtuber well they usually worked with offline games and to add this is their studio which worked mostly as DLC makers and helpers to primary team. They did a lot to cut coin on it but as they say "greedy pays twice"
@@pawsvtuber the thing there is in other games a relatively easy protection set a check in the room on load if the person entering it is supposed to be able if not kick them out.
I've got mates that will swear that 4 and 76 are good games. I played 4, cleared the top 1/3 of the map, didn't reach diamond city as I found that everything respawned and could grind out better gear just by going back and legendary hunting. After playing with the weapon customisation (which to me was the best part), I then traded it in for Doom (2016) as the story was putting me to sleep and I felt like I was accomplishing nothing. Never tried 76 as it felt like a hollow recreation of 4 with bad makeup.
Did play and finish 3 GOTY edition as the Anchorage expansion was fun. Finished New Vegas twice as I wanted to see if I could make the boomers let me fly/use the simulators without having to kill them all. I don't think I'll play another Bethesda game for a long while.
For the actual disaster that its launch and all was. I recently started F76 and I actually enjoy it now. Not a fan of the multiplayer part but not too many people to go somewhere where there ain't anybody around. But its actually filled with good old fallout style lore to explore now.
That is a sick model-
You should see how they've even managed to botch the boost from the TV show, by releasing an "update" that not only was yawn worthy, it actually managed to break all the mods for the PC players, making it such that it would've been better if they just didn't do anything. They should've just kept the updates on Consoles only, but nope, they had to fuck with the PC players, years later.
Feels like shes high with the amount of laughter 🫤
Great video, your an entertaining streamer!
I appreciate that!
Watching this stuff happen in real time years ago was incredible. I was in awe watching a popular company fuck up over the course of a year. It just kept going and going.
And now i am playing fallout 76 and listening this video thinking it was all true, the part of improving the game over the time really is a thing, cose today the game runs smooth enough to not close in my face or blue screen crash anymore, it stop respond when i am running many browser tabs and alt+tab to close a tab but fast travelling or entering a cell in the game.
Now we have a big influx of new players to the community and it is fun to see people getting the hang of it with the missions, cultural details, memes and the soundtrack.
Paws always has such a cute laugh
Bethesda Games need a dev room because they've been using the same engine since at least Morrowind (gamebryo, relabled Creation and Creation 2). Even Starfield uses it, which explains some of why that game is so borked.
Only going to slightly mention No Man's Sky in regard to Fallout 76 because it's often used as a comparison to Bethesda doing what they did with the game. No Man's Sky was made by an extremely small team of 26 people called Hello Games. Bethesda Game Studios (The division of Bethesda stuck in Todd Howard's muddy grippers) has about 450. That's already more than enough to say that the two games are nowhere near comparable for how they handle the creation of their title. Add on to this that Hello Games suffered a massive flood that nearly destroyed everything they had worked on. Bethesda had no act of God trying to destroy their game, though you'd probably wish they did.
There is one thing the two devs had in common though. Overhyping the scope of their games. Hello Games may have done so mostly out of complete lack of PR experience leading to false promises, but Bethesda just lets Todd spew forth whatever nonsense he concocts that day. I want to believe Todd believes they can do the things they say, but if that's the case, he's mentally unfit to run his division as he's been proven to be a massive liar throughout most of his damn career. I genuinely believe Bethesda Game Studios is the *worst* development team in the history of gaming. The studio makes THREE game series: Elder Scrolls (It's only real deserved successful title), Fallout (A franchise that deserves way better) and Starfield (Something everyone unanimously decided was not worth the wait). Every single one of these game series has the exact same thing in common: They are broken beyond repair.
I'd be hard pressed to believe a single soul that tries to tell me any game touched by Todd Howard works without issue. At the VERY LEAST, I know that everything from Morrowind onward was a gigantic cesspit of exploits, glitches and random nonsensical issues (With Morrowind likely being the least atrocious as it was still old enough that Bethesda's engine wasn't years upon years outdated). What annoys me is that people would defend these games because they like the setting and story, and a lot of the glitches and such were "funny to see". Don't get me wrong, a funny glitch here and there is all well and good, but it stops being funny when you realize the game just works that way and Bethesda will never have any plans to actually address the problems.
But you know what, that would be dismissible in some regard, if not for the fact that Bethesda LOVES to rerelease the same games multiple times, without fixing ANYTHING. Skyrim is the most notorious for this, and despite the fact that you can run the game on a fucking fridge, the game still runs like garbage. So now we have a company that can't make games function, and their marketing strategy is to lie about it and sell the same broken mess repeatedly. What could possibly make it worse? In comes the trainwreck of this video, Fallout 76. Now, no longer content to just lie on stage about a game, Bethesda chooses to lie to their customers repeatedly about EVERYTHING involved with it. Finally though, people call them out on their shit, and for the first time, Bethesda falls apart trying to recover (and failing miserably).
So after everything is said and done, you'd think that they'd just cut their losses and work on something else, but nope. They stuck with the game and updated it and slowly made it playable and I guess fun from what some people have said. Normally, I'd say "Well at least they fixed it somewhat" but honestly, it actually makes me angrier that they stuck with it. They proved that they didn't care to actually dedicate time to the game until it was out for YEARS. To make matters worse, what you said is true. Nobody really cared once the anger died down, and people still flock to buy shit Bethesda makes. Because of the admittedly good Fallout show, people are replaying the older Fallout games AND 76 despite the fact that no one should even approach anything this company makes with a 100 meter pole.
I don't like the idea of saying that people shouldn't play things they have fun with, but everything about Bethesda, from the crappily made games, to the fact that they basically abuse Modding communities to fix their shit AND THEN SELL IT AS THEIR OWN, all the while never owning up to their mistakes pisses me off so much that I really just wish everyone would realize that Bethesda doesn't deserve money no matter how interesting their game universes can be. I know my opinion doesn't matter in the long run, and I won't actively harass people for enjoying a game no matter how much I loathe the company behind it, but whenever I see this video, or any other talking about Bethesda, I feel the inescapable urge to rant about how fucking terrible they are.
So I apologize for the long comment. The video was hilarious, and I agree with basically everything you said during it. TL;DR: Bethesda bad. Burn Bethesda.
I find people who compare bugthesda with Hello Games and saying that the bugthesda 76 is great now just like nms to be disingenuous fools, Hello Games has released what 20+ major content updates and have delivered much, much more then what was promised whereas bugthesda has only released 2 or 3 possibly 4 major content updates, so yes i agree with the tldr burn bugthesda
As someone that used modded weapons in Dungeon Defenders for years without ever being banned for it, I’m sorry you got caught for it. It’s an amazing time and an amazing game that I feel didn’t get recaptured in the sequel
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That is Stretchy McGlugGlug. He is coming for you now you have mocked him!
Joke aside living through this was both hilarious and painful. I didn't buy the game cause I have a lot of experience in gaming, and suspected the shop and a few other elements coming. Not all the glitches and *other* problems xD
Love watching people react to this story
17:40 anybody noticing the "Not Todd Howard" in the top? x)
Dang, this brought me back. Had the "immortal" glitch of being downed and unable to die or be revived for 2 weeks. Couldn't move. Could only fast travel while on hands and knees 😂
Coming back last week tho. It's actually fun to play, would recommend checking it out😁
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The reason there's a dev room is because that's how Bethesda games work. I don't know if it's a limitation of the creation engine, or a failing on the part of the devs, but nearly every piece of loot you can find in Bethesda's games reference another entity in the game. Many merchants will have a "merchant inventory box" out of bounds/under the map that the NPC will reference everytime you select the trade option in their dialogue menu. My assumption is that this holds true for some other entities in the game. Some of them must reference the dev room containers and create copies when it needs to create a loot of "leveled loot" for the random bandit you killed. The only reason to not delete it would be that doing so would unravel major aspects of the loot system.
These rooms exist in every Bethesda game, usually accessible through the command console or if a modder adds a door to the room. That being said, those games are also SINGLE PLAYER, where game balance wouldn't get fucked over by its existence.
At this rate, clearly the devs didn't even play the game, they didn't even launch it to the title scree, how can you not notice bugs, the moment that when a player enters the game the see over 30 of them plus glitches on top.
how to get in dev room? easy... back in morrowind it was the console command "coc toddtest" because todd howard created the world space and named it toddtest... anyone tried that command in fo76 yet?
When he references the faked reviews if what he shows on screen are the real reviews then I don't think it was meant to make the product look good because if you notice all the users are characters in Fallout 4 speaking in character or making references to the game's mechanics like the perks in-game.
This and what's happened with Starfield is why I'm convinced that Elder Scrolls 6 will be a complete shitshow.
A little bit of insight: While Parent Zenimax company is a proper corpo grab and Bethesda (Publisher) as well, Bethesda Softworks is a nepotism nest, extended family of Todd Howard, supercharged by side talents.
Talents are gone now.
Fallout 4 was my first experience with Bethesda and the Fallout franchise. I enjoyed it a lot and found myself coming back to in constantly and it still has a place in my heart. Tried out Skyrim for a while after that but couldn't really get into it as much, not sure why. New Vegas on the other hand, I fell in love with and kept coming back to until I literally couldn't play it anymore without crashing or deleting saves to make room. In fact, I'm still playing it now that I've fixed those issues with mods!
All that being said, I haven't touched another Bethesda game since and unless something big happens to fix... _all of this shit,_ I don't think I will anytime soon.
The hole promotional merchandise was ugly to see, everyone hate it here in Brazil even being out of our reach due to the currency exchange diference.
Funny thing is with the log in as someone else....i played once and put it aside for a bit. Find out someone played on my account and was cheating and got banned even though i never played it for like 3.5years. Wanted to get back into it but found account banned. Wonderful....
I really enjoyed Fallout 4. Granted I never actually finished the main questline, because I spent so long doing settlement building and sidequests... but I liked it.
I weirdly managed to avoid the majority of these bugs some how and I played during beta/launch.😂
they have done a lot to 76 since launch. its a solid game now. you should give it a try.
I remember pre-ordering the game. Why did I do it? Because I liked Fallout 4 and the idea of playing a Bethesda game with friends sounded like a lot of fun. We did NOT, they didn't even get it so I was left off talking to strangers most of the time and despite how bad the game was, I did find 1 source of great fun: Bounty Hunting. Griefing players get a bounty and marked on the map so with a game forcing everyone on an open mic, hunting down players and effectively mugging them.
Eventually the player base drop rapidly in the early days so fewer and fewer bounties popped up until almost nobody was on. I hit my breaking point when a player with a massive bounty got the Invincibility glitch. The last joy I could find in the game essentially gone, I just quit.
i started playing 76 in 2020 when they added NPCs, it was getting good then and allot was fixed and now its crazy good and fun with friends, if you go into 76 looking for a fun solo adventure, its 50/50 so be warned.
Yeah fifty gigs in MY cornfield will take me a good solid week if I'm lucky.