I think I can speak for all viewers when I say that your insight on the topic was definitely interesting and worth sharing, so don’t stop trying to get your point across!
hi paws i want to say this we need women like you here in the USA you are sweet, kind,and levelheaded,alot of women here where i live you just can't talk too,i wish there was a woman like you here to meet, thanks for the reaction
Well, you are making good points on those rants. If only people had your ability to make sense and not be patronizing while ranting things in general would be better.
I enjoy listening to your rants. You offer a perspective that I don't normally get to hear. I totally agree with you. Treat every person as a human being!
And will most likely cheat on you and take half of everything you have when you finally catch on. And god help you if you had kids with her, you're paying for child support while her next dude is also paying for her lol
DO NOT TRY RIGHT NOW. I PROMISE YOU IT'LL BE BAD. I'm Gen Z but barely. 19, got fucked over by multiple women, family included. Like yeah, I get it people make mistakes but come on how does me not wanting to take responsabilty for a baby she had while cheating make ME the bad guy.
@@NightfurySkrill_Joel ya fuck that if they slept with someone sees its their problem not a me problem and one reason I'd say I'd want a DNA test or we need to make it mandatory at child birth
Well, the idea maybe that is such a scenario would cause the loneliness regardless. Being right next to a gold digger wife is lonely itself. But I understand what you mean.
@@NightfurySkrill_Joel it doesn’t she just doesn’t want to lay in the bed she made for herself & hella women have this weird need to not hold other women accountable for there actions. Stay strong man. Hold them accountable, get that DNA test, than cut contact, block numbers, do whtvr you gotta do to tell them *it is over*
@@pawsvtuber It's because, in the West in general, and the US in particular, the word has been appropriated and deformed from its original role as an identifier of the actual party that controlled Germany of its period into a catch-all identifier for "someone who thinks even marginally to the right of me politically". Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking who's been raised outside of the public education system can see just how watered down and irrelevant the word has been rendered. It's used for shock value in Western politics, and little else. Of course, since the public education system encourages group-think rather than free thought, it tends to get results that the politicians want.
@@LoathsomeLucifer strange how they don't notice that men's loneliness correlates in no way to, nor is solved by, any of those things. Nazism, Communism, Marxism, and Fascism cannot and will not help anyone be less lonely.
If you think that's bad, Shoe got so much heat for this video that she did a follow up about all the heat she got for trying to acknowledge the problem.
This is the exact kind of generalization and division that Paws spoke against. A woman will gain nothing by painting men with negative generalizations, and similarly a man will gain nothing by painting women with negative generalizations. Not all women (or even a majority) have been shouting "we don't need no man". A healthy society is where most men understand they need women, and women understand that they still need men. Ignore voices which seek to divide and turn things into a gender war, and instead look to voices that seek to unify and reach across the isle.
@@xuvial1391tried speaking against it. I got shouted down repeatedly, even by women in my family. No hearing me out, no pause for consideration, just an immediate "you don't care about women then". Full stop. So you know what? I stopped worrying about it and walked away. Most of these people will never learn, much less admit they might have been wrong, until they hit rock-bottom.
@@xuvial1391see that’s great and all. But now it’s up to the women who are against the feminist bs to speak up against it. Men only started saying they don’t need women because there’s so many women today saying how trash men are and that they don’t need men. So the men finally listened and were like okay we don’t need you either and now people are like “oh wait, you can’t say that you incel!”. So again, now it’s the women who are against the feminist bs to speak up against it.
Women on the internet: “If you’re lonely just rub one out” *some time later* Women writing articles: “Where have all the men gone? It feels like they used to be around but we don’t really see them in the gyms or malls anymore.” Man the cause and effect has been interesting to watch over the last 10 years. Get ready for even more “Where are all the men” articles.
Yeah definitely, keep in mind though the people who are calling men Nazis or whatever are still a minority, but they are extremely loud and relentless. The women who have braincells are probably gonna be the ones writing those future articles most of the time. The rest who caused the issue in the first place and complained later can reap what they sowed.
I wonder when things would maybe end up better someday. Maybe having women who are atleast not as hostile and atleast pretend to have some understanding and compassion for men at some point, i don't imagine they ever will collectively... I think male culture as a whole is pulling itself away from women because being attached to women has gone from being a wonderful thing to the equivalent of having steel barb shoved up the arse.
Saw a video a while back asking "why are men having troubles or avoid approaching women these days?" and proceeds to list the following arguments, If he compliments your looks, it's sexual harassment. If he stays quiet, it´s male indifference. If he buys you flowers, he's after something. If he doesn't, he's not thoughtful. If he's proud of his achievements, he's full of himself. If he isn't, he's not ambitious. If he works out, he's vain. If he doesn't, he's a slob. If he puts a woman on a pedestal and tries to protect her, he's a chauvinist. If he stays at home and does housework, he's pansy. If he let's himself be vulnerable, he's a wimp. If he doesn't, he's insensitive. If he pursues you, he's stalking. If he doesn't, he lacks self-confidence. In short, there´s no right option. Only wrong. I hope the day comes when the "it us versus them" gender battle becomes a "It's us, humanity, against the unknown future" adventure.
@@WrensthavAviovus I think that was the point. Under the Us vs. Them argument, you are 100% correct. Once that stuff goes away and we join forces, that's not a known future anymore.
As one guy said in one of these videos. The hardest people on me in life are the women in my family. They'd rather me die on my white horse than become vulnerable
So, something worth clarifying. When Shoe says "A man will crawl through broken glass for a purpose" it isnt about being a breadwinner, a provider, having a family it isnt about any of those specific purposes, but they do want to feel like they have some kind of purpose. and sometimes that purpose is as small as a hobby they enjoy, be it gaming or being a massive warhammer nerd or making weird stuff in their garage by welding random objects together. Just existing tends to really fuck someone up for extended periods of time, and on average, men more so. Ive seen men stay in toxic situations, professionally, romantically, privately all because the other party helps them have a purpose, no matter how petty. Hell. most armies recruitment method primarily targets someone 'seeking a purpose being a house-husband or live in maid is still a purpose, and even though its not 'traditional' it still takes care of the fundamental need to be needed. and there are outliers, and exceptions, though often those ones have more given up on a purpose than just dont want one.
as a male, yes. it's not necessary about making a family. it's about having a community wherein you can fulfill a role. be it joining the military, or having a hobby and the related community. making a family happens to fulfill that criteria as well.
Agreed, it is more to do with biology than anything else. The modern world is completely feminist at this point, even though they still complain about a mythical patriarchy. It is a western problem, a lot of these takes would end up with people being in prison in other countries.
100% agree. Feminists often misunderstand that a 'purpose' isn't necessarily about reclaiming dominance in society as much as just "I want a role in SOMETHING".
Intergration not seperation. Society needs to stick together or fall apart on it's own. It's werid to think how we stripped the culture for parts and are shocked at the problems that it used to solve are popping back up.
I've seen a lot of comments from women amounting to "why should we care", which is kind of hilarious to me because that's like the lions saying they don't care if their prey animals go extinct or farmers saying they don't care if the crop is declining. If you want good men, you need to be interested in things that affect them. As for the pathetic doormats patting women on the back for being horrible harpies on the internet: that's pick-me behaviour for guys. "I'm a good guy, sleep with me please, choose me, I'm safe". Sad. That's the type of guy that will turn around and call a woman all sorts of names if she doesn't respond positively to their "quirky" pickup lines.
no one can exist without a desire to live (purpose) imo, my point was that a purpose shouldn't be tied to someone else, but for yourself as an individual Sorry if I didn't make it clear!
@pawsvtuber it seems like this is the vast majority of men, tho. We dont get much motivation or confidence in life outside of being able to help the women we admire. Consequently, the most men today aren't doing anything significant with their lives. It's just how men are
@@pawsvtuber The point she was making was that via the history of human beings on planet earth, life 50,000+ years ago was a basic game of survival. Hunt, eat, protect. Gender roles were as basic as other animals on the planet, males gather food and protect, females have and raise babies. This concept is not only unknown to people these days but the mere utterance of it triggers people. We are products of those times, those roles are now going away completely, if not gone completely. But 200 years of modern society doesn't remove the thousands of years of evolution where these things were programmed into us as a necessity. So people will still feel the need to do these things, mostly unconsciously. She is not saying that men need to be protectors and women stay in the kitchen. She is saying that in the context of men and women interacting, men still feel the need to do certain things. Unfortunately men are more often being told that women do not need them anymore, which has led to this situation. (I am simply talking in general terms about billions of males interacting with billions of females, not a specific gender dynamic that you or other people might be more familiar with)
@@pawsvtuber as a man i will tell you we need a purpose to exist or we end up detorying our selfs women dont understand that becuse they are not a man seeing your reaction olny made me understand so much more that women will never understand but how can they atleast shoeonhead may be the olny woman who trys her best to she seems to atleast care
Honestly the only reason I don’t off myself is because my mother is still struggling to take care of my younger siblings, they are the only anchor I have left.
Mine broke apart. Revenge and sweet irony is my drive now. Once rich, I win. I care about nothing else now. Anything for a stack of Benjamins in my pocket.
All those women complaining are also the same women who cry "Where did all the men go?" Just like in NYC right now, women are getting attacked and they wonder why men won't interfere or stop it. The last guy who did, is in jail for protecting a woman who was getting attacked. Men also get get blamed for literally every evil in the world. If a man flirts with a woman, it's considered sexual harassment in the US atm, and a bunch of similar issues.
@syressx9098 I remember seeing that a guy who helped this lady that was being mugged by a homeless dude was arrested and charged with like 5 different charges cause he had a gun and fired warning shots to scare him off
It is really rough, my dumbass started liking cars, one of the most expensive hobbies I don't have that much money, I'll probably never will and the not having enough money for my dream car lead to being sad and (in game, TH-cam, in game) want I To do that little thing that makes you stop live
All of those women saying it's not their problem fail to realise that most men are raised in single mother households, it is most definitely your problem as well.
Even in a nuclear family it's becoming their fault. Watched mine tear apart my family at a young age, cause constant stress, cheat, etc. Watched that poor man just go through so many stages of regret. I work primarily with women and always hear how they talk about the men they're with and its awful. Coworkers having "relationship issues" and then draping over me during a work party while drunk. Women kinda obliterate the relationship system even before they get to the single mother stage lmao. And being fair there are guys that don't help this case. Having dudes willing to help a girl cheat the moment she's impaired by alcohol or a bad day is not alright. The simps blowing their egos up constantly is not alright.
My mom treats me horribly because I'm a guy. My dad sat silent for a while but now isn't letting her jabs go unchallenged. She's threatened divorce a couple of times. She's also accused my sisters of being sexist because my sisters didn't want to watch the female sports during the Olympics.
The irony of people on Twitter saying “they need help” and then immediately turning around and pointing the finger at them when they ask for help or simply need help… I don’t like using this line, but sometimes we truly do live in a society. Edit: around 21:30- post nut clarity is very real and a lot of people seem to forget that.
There was an African proverb about a child burning down a village just to feel it's warmth. Why should we as men, break our backs for a society that has hated us since the 80s.
The provide and protect thing is legit. We are simple, much simpler they make us out to be. Juat need a sweetheart, family , than ill feel completely fulfilled protecting all of that. For most if us that feels like our purpose. We need purpose. We need women. So when we dont have those things or get rejected for too long .. we self delete. Fun fact 50% of male suicides had no history of depression. It becomes, literally like " no one needs me" followed by a bang. Ugh
Men are more logical than emotional. If they do the mental math and come to the conclusion that their life has no meaning, then the next step is self-deletion, usually.
No record just means no Dr has seen mental state prior to the self ending and mental declines cann happen preety fast once ther isn't a social circel around anymore soo you just pointed out that most Mann get depression dont get help and fall very deep in a short time And I cann see myself in a similar Situation I had a pretty shity child hood (negletive mother, mobbing,and same other stuff) that probably lead in that direction early on first time suicidal thoughts with the age of 13 About 2 years later one of my friends died in a train accident and that mad me realise how hard death cann hit the peopel around and that I couldn’t do that too my Father Soo i still have reasons too go on an therfore time find a porpuse or samething in that Ball Park
I have my first suicidal though on 12 (I have grown up in an almost perfect family but with a really stressful expectation as the first child of the house) and continuously goes on for 6 years until I have my first girlfriend and that though slowly faded away until she dumped me and I can't even think straight for a week, I don't want to talk with my friends, I don't want to play any games despite being one of the most enjoyable things in my life. I was almost cutting myself when I called my aunt and tell her about the ex, and she told me that I should focus on the University. After another 6 years, I still, sometime, have a suicidal though when I have nothing to do, luckily (that it is not a drug), I have strong addiction for video games so that though gone away pretty quick when I have a hand on my PC.
It feels like, since I'm a man - with Asperger's Syndrome, might I add - that society expects me to act not as a human being, but rather as a monster. It's only a question of time before people get tired and say, "You want your monster? Fine. I'll be your monster." It feels good to not be ignored.
Then they will use men too kill you, giving them a brief purpose. Once your gone, the cycle will continue and the only person you can believe understood you was the man who fought the world before.
Sadly this is a trend throughout history, when a group is ignored or blown off it’s a matter of time before they retaliate then the sad part is the former party who contribute to the development will suddenly ask, how did this happen; completely lacking self awareness. Do they think Germany suddenly became Nazi Germany out of nowhere? Or did the demonization and isolation from the world after the 1st world war pushed them to demand respect, even at the cost of their humanity and other lives?
@noirhelios Unrest in the inner cities is increasing in the US, as is drug traffic, illegal immigration, and political polarization. By and large (and media will never report on it), the vast majority of shootings are in the big cities, where people see each other every day. When I lived out in the countryside, country folk shooting each other was nearly unheard of despite owning more guns on average than city residents. It's all about culture, and modern popular culture in the media tries to sell US city life as the way to be, with _every_ single problem such a life brings in tow.
@NewTypeDilemma01 its not the illegal immigration that is just the symptom like many otgers of the rich and corporations being too greedy and tilting the scale too much in their favor and squeezing the life out of the poor and the working class. People are cornered by out of control rent prices and healthcare costs that are completely divorced from reality. That leads to less opportunity and higher crime rates. It's not that there is a shortage of jobs at all, on the contrary, there is a glut of bad and dead-end jobs that don't even allow for subsistence living.
28:40 Most men are happy contributing to the family unit. Weather that’s being a bread winner & providing financial security or being a stay at home dad & caring for the house & kids. Either way the man is helping contribute to the family unit.
What's crazy is that even "men's day" pretty much gets zero attention. A couple of my coworkers talked about this and one of them expressed shock that there was even a men's day, despite also acknowledging he knew about women's day. It's rather satisfying that the men's rating of women on okcupid follows a pretty standard bell curve. My closest friends are absolutely online right now. But I really should make some close friends in person. The reason people like to separate things into groups is, in my eyes, this: People want to feel a part of something, and they will naturally separate things based on differences. However, to say they are a part of the human race would be too broad of a "something" for most people. So, they separate people and themselves into groups. The more exclusionary they can make that group, the "better", because it can help them feel special. You have broad umbrellas that will then get smaller and smaller, until you have something pretty specific. Whenever people say they don't judge people, I immediately call bs.
You are lucky that you are on autopilot, I was "A robot that is being given commands" for 20 years and turned into autopilot for another 5 years... I am 25 rn.
18:50 There is a propensity online for Male Feminists to act and behave like this, which often also can be seen as the "Nice Guy" syndrome as well. They tend to eventually be outed as a type of predator within a few months.
39:11 she wasn't saying your purpose needs to be family, just that us men WILL make sometimes horrific sacrifices for a/our purpose. That said, a family is by far what most men want. Whether its JUST a wife and him, or the whole package, kids and all, most men still want a family
It is definitely true that this content is primarily aimed at a US audience. The politics of the US is in such a divisive polarized state that groups, regardless of what the group is, are just used as game pieces to solidify the power of the ruling parties. Wanna know why it works that way? It starts with m and rhymes with honey. Ironically, in the US, boys are taught to be a way through the available role models, and then society tells them those are unacceptable in real life. It is, in fact, a systemic issue that needs to be addressed but it is so politicized that doing so isn’t actually possible. The right side screams about feminizing boys, and the left side refuses to acknowledge that not all masculinity is toxic. Both sides genralize all men as the same. There is a proper way to handle this, but it has to be done to better society, not to advance an agenda starting with children.
unfornatly its not just america now its spread across canada and all of western europe. schandinavia is just getting back to sanity after a 1000 percent increase in GRAPGRAPE.
In School every event was Men vs Women. And every time regardless of results they would declare women the winners. Men wouldn't participate so they had to assign it.
Damn, that sucks. Here we always had pairing done by lottery for events. Only thing that was different was sports, which was split between genders for certain games (as in girls vs girls, boys vs boys)
I remember back in Year 0/Nursery, the teacher would always let the girls choose which toys to play with first. They would take literally all the best ones for themselves and the guys they liked and the boys who weren't on the girls good sides would be left with essentially nothing.
It really can be hollowing. I've stopped jacking it so often and cut p*rn out of my life completely, and life seems easier to live. Nobody needs all that fake shit because it's brainrot incarnate.
@@pawsvtuberCompletely understandable, especially when it comes to people behaving so callously towards those who’ve personally done them no wrong other than existing. It really boils my blood like no other
One of the best reactions from someone who isn't American. You actually listened and understood a lot what she was talking about and didn't try and discredit how bad the US is or just social media towards men in general ❤
I'm a house husband, have been for about 7 years now- ever since the day my boss refused to let me have my first child's first birthday off. Its rough, but fulfilling. I get to be there for my kids in a way my own father absolutely wasn't. The trade off for that is that I don't go out, I don't have in person friends and my own sister, who was also abandoned by our father, has cut me so far out of her life that I don't think she even knows I'm alive. All because I don't work a wage earning job. I work my ass off to raise my children to be competent human beings, but that's not enough. Thank god my wife is a bad ass or I'd have completely given up on humanity in general.
Its good that you are raising your kids But its bad your sending your women out while your inside Men need to be working to be fulfilled. It doesnt have to be a wage slave job but it can even be something simple they enjoy
@@ryojs4286 You seem to not understand how much effot it takes to maintain a home with children in it. Raising kids used to be a full time job. It isn't anymore because prices are rising and two people's worth of income is needed to support a functioning household, barely. To the detriment of the children, of course.
When women stop having unrealistic expectations, stop with the false accusations, and stop telling men to be more emotionally sensitive when those same women aren’t capable of understanding or caring about said emotions, THEN we can talk about getting the dating scene back to normal.
@@CdrChaos right but what I’m saying is you claim women (general) need to be like this for us to be like that, which is kinda the same mentality the people in the video have. Isn’t it just better to not think of others as a general group and go out into the dating world expecting to meet individuals? I feel like the more you focus on the group as a whole, the less you’ll be willing to interact with them, which is one of the reasons contributing to the issues underlying the video
"Why do you need a purpose, as a man, to exist? Why can't you just exist?" Paws, we'd love nothing more. This goes back to the beginning, though. Men have always had to provide something, somehow, to someone else - preferably a woman and her children for the purposes of advancing the species - or they had no value. Existing just because we are human is not something we get from society. As the abandonment of gender roles began with women, men have been resistant to dropping their own, and women have benefitted from that, but the younger generations are realizing that, having been told how useless and unnecessary we are, that we could just apply our own gender role to ourselves. So, men protect and provide for themselves. This looks like guys having just enough to be happy and seeking nothing greater (while women call this man a broke loser) and protecting himself from the things that can harm him like women who mean to use him for what he can provide, women who outright hate him, and political parties aiming to martial him against their opponents (because that still technically counts as a purpose). To just... exist. It's a dream. Everyone wants something from us. The fewer people we can or choose to give things to, the less people like us. We also don't typically fight back (societal conditioning), and therefore make a good, safe place to lay the blame for everything. And we typically don't mind it, because we just accept that it is what it is. If we want a relationship, we know that we have to bring a broad selection of things to the table, which does line up with the ridiculous nonsense Tate is teaching. But he is using these sad men to make money, too, and doesn't seem to care. Where we get tripped up, though, is that women aren't allowed to be asked what they bring to the table. It feels unfair. And so men protect themselves and provide for themselves instead of for the both of them. It's not all women that are this way. But there is a *lot* of confusion in them because men taking a step back is not what they expected. Men not engaging the games and the risks, leaving them to do it themselves is against the way they were taught that men should be. The hikikomori in Japan are able to live well on their own, but it's not good for them. I need regular encouragement to get out myself, and I recognize that my silence and evasion of the parts of society that are unkind to me is not helpful and creates a downward spiral. It's really easy to just presume nobody cares, and so there are a number of women who do want meaningful and reciprocal relationships that either keep the narrative that men aren't important and they are independent and strong at the ready, or their friends intervene and feed them bad info to make them abandon the guy or get him to shy away. Every female v-tuber I have seen react to Shoe has said, "not all women are like this!" and I believe them. But just like men don't wear a sign saying they are a monster, neither do women. It's tough, because the current state of things is polarizing women against each other, where one side blames men for all of everything and attack the women that side with them, and the other wants the first side to stop running the men out of society, not realizing that men are leaving society because it's the least problematic answer. It's the least trouble for everyone.
I'm American and i grew up similar to you, or at least how you described it. Early 2000s US never talked about any of this political nonsense or men v women or whatever. We were just chill and even adults, nobody really cared that much about all these "issues". But like, right around 2012-14 I'd say, it felt like my entire country got infiltrated by political activists and now all the news/online people do is blast us with divisionary content and make everything into an us vs them issue. Truly watching the downfall of my country in real time.
Politics weren't as toxic pre-2001 because everyone talked about politics. There was no "oh my god I can't believe Gred is a x person", instead there was only "Yeah that is Greg, he's an x person but he's chill". There was a massive push starting around 2005 to make talking politics controversial which was very very very stupid. Normalize talking politics like humanity did for its entire existence and things will calm down. As of right now the only people talking politics are crazy people online and DC which is why things are so bad. Of course your county has bad roads, you don't even know who is in charge of fixing them. Of course your school is failing, you can't even name 2 board members on the BOE. Nobody knows anything anyone who does try to no gets called crazy for trying to learn Also anytime you see a "controversial" issue just think "wait who decided this was a controversial opinion?". For a bold example, guns in the US. Over half the country owns at least 1 gun and over half of the states allow permitless carry but yet somehow despite the majority owning them and wanting easier access the entire topic is deemed "controversial". This can be applied to many topics. A universal opinion or fact can be deemed evil in a single 24 hours and a large swath of the population will just accept it as such, proven by 4chan with the "OK" meme. A symbol known and used by everyone suddenly became """"""controversial"""""" enough to get you fired or lose brand deals. As I like to say, You can ignore politics but politics will not ignore you.
My hypothesis on everything is, the worsening of it all reached its zenith around 2011/2012 because Occupy Wall Street started picking up steam, and The 1% did not like the 99% revolting, so they started controlling the media into crying about racism and sexism, and it all started devolvimg from there.
I live my whole life in the US and can say i never heard of any politics about race and sex until the right to marry the same gender was passed. Thinking about it i always felt the topic of race and sex became a heavy talked about issue in 2016 and it only intensified since then to an extreme level that makes me realizing how fast it was. It felt like 1 year, everything was focused on issue abroad outside of the US, then suddenly everything became racial issues that i though was fixed with the civil rights movement in the 60s that it makes me feel like we are progressing backwards. It just feels so weird and infuriating hearing all these things that are issues when to me at least, were fixed or isn't severe as they were decades ago.
Lack of communication skills really kicks me in the nuts when trying to escape the loneliness. Words have been trapped in my throat for so long they might as well be geologic layers and now I'm afraid of exposing others to the built up pressure
I’m 36 and never had sex before. Now I’ve wanted something real. And I wanted to get married first before I do anything didn’t help with that too much. But I’ve been on dating apps for years swiping and trying to get to know woman. And all I want is one. And I’ve been ghosted so many times and told by so many both men and woman tell me I’m extremely good looking. And they keep telling me “no”. I can’t do anything with a no. So I just move on.
Well dating apps and mostly all things like it are a service. They don't solve your problem out of kindnesses. There made to get as much money out of you as possible. Me and my friend did a tinder experiment. Where we used the same profit. One was paid for the monthly bill. Other the free. The free one get 1 match the whole time. And yes ghosted. Never saying anything. The paid got 10. 8 ghosted. Meaning that unless you paid it virtually pointless to use the thing.
It's not just on Twitter. I've heard these comments from women towards their husbands or boyfriends. The dating pool is a nightmare so many people are just avoiding for the sake of their self-love.
I want to be a house husband. I've always wanted to be a dad. But at this point, It's more realistic for me to win the lottery and Adopt some kids, then to get a partner now a days.
That's why their words holds no weight anymore. It's just word salad of anything they can think of that is associated with evil. Their words are like Yo momma jokes.
Saw a comment "men are told yo not cry". And that's right. It's okey for women to cry. If a man will cry in front of friends, gf - they will lose respect for him. If you want to cry - okey, but alone, with no one to see you.
Btw, that’s why Shoe mentions women loneliness as well. Both of these issues can only be solved by people, not one or the other side. We have to work together to solve it together.
"Not one or the other side" even though the, source, cause, propagator, and one with complete control over the issue, including the voting power for the legal problems, is exclusively women. So...literally one side.
@@midgetydeath I see your point but I disagree with it on part of that technically speaking, being fearful to talk to women is our fault as men. Most women are not that harsh about things as we think they are.
This is the reason why a lot of men are going over seas to find a woman, especially to Asian countries. Which is a risk there are many stories of men loosing it all and being stuck there or even killed. However the success stories are far higher and now women are made that men are going and finding happiness.
18:19 This is how actual predators speak btw. *Most* men are terrible and you shouldn't trust men but he's one of the "better ones" and he's agreeing with the "right" opinion so you can trust him. He is absolutely not someone who accepts rejection, he knows this and tries to separate you from anyone who can protect you from him preemptively.
I dont like talking about my age on the internet because people get condescending, but as someone who just got into high school, i have to say the poor treatment of men is especially noticeable in the school system even all the way back in 1st grade i noticed that the girls got special treatment this could just be mine area but idk anyone else notice this anywhere else in the US?
Oh no, its everywhere, education, employment ect. If it makes you feel any better Im damn near treated as a potential rapist at my current jobsite simply for being a guy around young girls trying to do a job.
32:08 Straight white french men. Unfortunately no, marriage laws, paternity laws, my skin color, my body and my gender has all been attacked in real life as much as on internet. You just didn't listened to it, but people like that do exist in europe, and there are a lot of them recruting.
Funny thing about the whole "men do the most murder" thing is that women are far better at being murderers. Female serial killers have body counts that dwarf almost every male one. Biggest case and point...... Elizabeth Bathory!
I'm 36 now with no family of my own.. it may seem like it doesn't matter, but it's part of our nature to want a good woman in our life and a son or daughter. Mostly, I think we just want someone to make us a better person and help us grow. They say they don't need no man... until the plumbing breaks or they need the driveway paved or they need soldiers to fight for them, because thats the man's job, according to women. We are supposed to fight and die so they can say we have no value..men admit we need women, but women refuse and straight up condem us for even existing, even if we've done nothing
A big problem with the US specifically is if we try to just talk about people as a general or whole we get accused of ignoring minority groups. That we're ignoring problems that specificallt target this group or that group. Its part of why plenty of guys here have decided to just unplug and disconnect from society. Sadly the mainstream institutions are so intent on things being mens fault or that we have it off better no matter what, that they won't listen to anything we say. Its a problem we are basically attacked for talking about and basically cannot solve. As for the 'Patriarchy' bs, the people that constantly claim that we've benefited from this supposed system love to ignor that for so much of history it was a fraction of a precentage of men who had massive power while the rest of men were in just as bad place as women. And some people would argue a worst case because only men through most of history would be ordered off to die in war for the whims of the powerful few.
You know nothing lmao. Incels and their pathetic attempts at rewriting history to fit their regressive narrative, laughable. Only some men all all the money and power but that doesn't change the fact that even for regular people, men still had more power than women, hell, before 1900's women weren't even considered as human beings, they were just their husbands possessions. Fucking hypocrite
"The music they listen too has derogatory lyrics!" That's just straight up not true, 90% of the music I listen to doesn't even include lyrics.... society is so fucked up.
Same i'm so damn grateful i grew up in the 2000's and had a great childhood And i've fortified my mind and body over the last few years to COPE with the world today regardless, we still move forward
Born in 99. Grew up during the transition, so I only had 5 close friends, but they were really close friends. We all went our separate ways and don't really talk that much anymore, but I remember us all meeting each other by chance once at an old place we used to hang out at, and we all instantly connected again. I still have them in my thoughts, and I still hope that they are doing great.
"Men are lacking purpose" I choose to be single. I choose to be alone. I'm socially awkward and an introvert. It's not easy to transition less than 24 hours to be an extrovert. Rather work on myself than being shoved to the ground. I do remember watching a video somewhere that would chart out just exactly how women would go on if the existence of all men was eradicated.
@@Yggi11 single mother households are the majority. They are also funneling out men and women with more mental anguish than their counterparts by rate. Women complain about men, the create the men they hate
I have a grand total of two close friends one of which my parents think is a “bad influence” because he plays video games a lot so I don’t even get to talk to him much
As much as i hate how they think i cant feel anything but a deep pity toward the guys in this vid saying how all men are awful because they are so deep in the hatred they hate themselves and feel like its DESERVED like the only good thing they can do in life is hate themselves for being born and that breaks my fucking heart
If I were a Hikikomori and I saw those staring videos. I wouldn't be afraid of it because of the women. I'd be afraid of the fact that the situation is so fucking bad, that men are viewed as unable to socialize.
29:56 Look behind him. There's not much to be said anymore but much of the reason for these situations is lack of 'correct' and 'mature' life experience & knowledge. If only people would read and listen.
Loneliness doesnt exist for woman. All it takes is a single post online and youll have more dudes jumping in to be your friend than you can even handle. And i'm not just talking about gooners. I'm talking about friendly dudes. (some scumbags yes, but mostly, well meaning dudes)
@@pawsvtuber Fair point. Let's put it another way, then. Lack of company doesn't exist for women (or, offers of companionship). You might feel lonely, but you never have to be physically alone. You could probably use the opportunity to eat for free at the same time, as well. The options available to women simply do not exist for the average man. Women seem to have a difficult time grasping this, but it's just a fact.
As you said being poor and things along that situation tend to be a massive hamper on the ability to go out and interact and such too. Though I admit for me it is a mix of as you said, survive the week, or also that people are just super trashy nowadays. It just turns me off of wanting to be social and have friends and all. And there is such a negative outlook on anyone that is depressed or has any mental health issues (not even just men), that it feels genuinely pointless to open up too. People need to stop being awful to each other and show a little bit of care at all. Everyone is lonely at one point or another and has things eating them alive inside. A little bit of decency can change a life. It's not one side or the other, its everyone. And most people don't care at all.
What I love about the "men are obsolete apart from procreation" thing is, even ignoring how society would collapse in a day without men, these people that completely reduce men to what they do for women and what you can get out of them, never seem to be able to explain what women are good for, besides procreation. Everything you could say also applies to men.
originally toxic masculinity was coined in the 1800s during industrialization is was a criticism of men who worked too many hours at a factory rather than being at home with their family
It's like the scenario where the robot isn't supposed to hurt anything and comes to the conclusion that if said things didn't exist they can't be hurt.
= ( Really shitty reality. It really makes me depressed. I think it's sad that normal white guys don't seem to have say much on the internet and that people don't take us very seriously anywhere. The only friends I have are my mom and dad. And I have been like this for many years. Nobody reaches out and when you do, you're either shrugged off and not really acknowledge (leading to feelings of lack of self-worth). I've been in very dark times because of my loneliness and some days feels I still am, and I KNOW it's not exclusive to men, but you see this video and it speaks for itself. We don't get empowered, we get mocked or told we're not "man enough," most times. At least, in my experience. Thank you for the upload, and I am just very appreciative that you were open minded enough to at least check this video out. Seriously, I personally appreciate it.
also under current laws, many men risk death by marrying or dating women, i guess im blessed to be so ugly and poor, ill just stay alone and play video games, there is no one who would want me, and even if they did they would just be violent, im also closeted bisexual because raised very religiously and have concerns if i was open people would hurt me, im a lonely person, but i was never as alone as when i was married, living with someone who constantly tells you how much they hate you...i still have a 3 inch scar on my right arm to remember my last christmas being married, id rather be alone then go through that again, then again i dont even get to make that choice since no one would even want me in the first place, so guess ill buy Stellar Blade, btw good video, hopefully i didnt sound insane in the above, i cant convey tone in text, but thank you for your kind words on the subject, many people get to the point that they are isolated and feel everyone hates them
My opinion is dont give up hope bro no matter what you think of yourself dont look down on yourself even if u are so called "ugly" or poor its not the end now idk how old u are or anything but if something fails try it again and learn and if you keep failing remember that you have gone through so much stuff and that the problem you face is just another obstacle to your future so gl and hope this comment atleast made you smile alittle
This isn't an attack but I did agree with a lot you said until you started talking about "People" as what we should be watching. I do agree we all need to get better and take care of each other regardless of gender or anything. But when you start doing that in a post or a place where people are talking about 1 issue like men or women or whatever it dilutes the meaning. The main problem with mens issues is that men feel like they are invisible and no one cares about their issues or just complains when they are brought up, taking men out of the equation and saying all people need help in this sense just magnifies that. It adds to their isolation and makes them feel like no one cares or only cares when other things are added into it. Again you aren't wrong, people need help but just like we need to talk on specific issues on certain groups we need to talk on Mens issues separately first too. I hope that makes sense through text.
25:48 unironically, i would rather be homeless than being as lonely to the severe degree men can end up in quite frequently.... You have to be in absolute suffering to think breaking your bones to increase in height, like holy shit that is utterly horrific the more you think about it... It's like those old era Christian who flagellate themselves grieving in misery for their perceived sins, it's horror, absolute horror. 30:16 i do not agree with leftists and leftism in general, it's too materialistic, it's too degenerate, it's too lacking in human understanding and the soul of a nation, it's too absent of the incentive that drives men to that sense of clarity and true power... I don't mean bullshit political power, True power is born from a vision, a vision of greatness, a vision that gives one reason to drag yourself even if your left with bloody stumps as legs.
19:20 - as a male I can say that at some point in life you may just question yourself like what am I living for (especially when you're too were rational in life), this is quite simple but hard to find, and people are struggling to find even such little purpose to exist, so this is really hard to "just exist" for men, it feels like a shit tbh when you're doing nothing
I love how they hammer Peterson in the news report and then quote Vaush like he's more credible. I have my disagreements with Peterson, and he definitely gets weird on things. People can disagree with him on the trans movement, free speech, biblical interpretation, or any number of other issues. But the entire reason he's appealing to young men is the fact this is broader core message is, life is hard, but you have something to offer and the more you take responsibility for yourself and your immediate areas of influence, doing the best you can to approach it honestly, the more you can expand what you have the ability to accomplish. That you can be the kind of person people which they had in their lives if only you start simple and work your way up tonko to impactful things then there's no telling you might be capable of. Meanwhile, the hammering on privilege and historical wrongs (usually very selectively chosen) is used to shame. Yes, privilege exists, though I would say it's pretty obvious it comes more from genetics and the circumstances you were raised in than factors like race or gender. Having decent parents and a community around you that values diligence and learning is probably 70% of it. But people shouldn't be shamed for having advantages, they should be encouraged to do what they can with those advantages for the good of the world.
And if it wasn't for men these women wouldn't have anything no phone no electricity and no car and no makeup no perfume no job no air conditioning no medicine and no house nothing Hell I need men too because if it was up to me to make stuff we'd still be riding horses bareback and making wood tents or sleeping underneath trees and hunting with rocks and big ass sticks like an extremely brutal game of whack-a-mole 😂 But seriously at the end of the day we all need each other
Loneliness and not feeling like nobody wants you is a real and serious thing. people aren't taking it seriously enough, loneliness can also lead to depression and that can then lead to even worser things. People saying all these insensitive things doesn't help anybody and isn't the solution.
It’s always nice to hear support from people after watching this “Origin of the Vtubers” video (alternate title for this video) to remind us that there is hope and understanding out there, especially from a fluffy person such as yourself. For others at least since my self esteem is so low it’s in the negatives and going to take a lot time to fix that mess. But the big problem causing it is the Us VS Them mentality that I dislike so much that I don’t even like PvP games because of it. And this is the video that made me start saying “All statements that include everyone in a group, does NOT include everyone in that group, This statement included”
As a guy I have simply given up in totality trying to relate to women. I have a nice job lined up and after hitting the gym I am stronger than I ever have been. By cutting out women I can feel fulfilled in everything else. Trying to chase after them causes nothing but grief. I have never met such a heartless group of people. Talking to a random guy off the street I can form a stronger bond than throwing myself at any girl. I will never understand how women can be so evil for no apparent reason.
Prior to the 80's, women were mainly in part time jobs. Following the 80's, they became full time workers. At the time, there was a discussion as to how flooding the market with additional labour would affect pay. It used to be possible for a household to survive off a single income as wages were higher due to demand, now this is not the case. We have had to introduce childcare payments from the government to enable both the man and woman to work - effectively a state subsidised nanny service. Babies go into childcare from the age of 1. The only benefitiary to all of these changes have been the companies. It is not a surprise that we have ultra rich people in the world. Cheaper labour and a higher workforce = more productivity and profit. To hell with the social fallout.
Before the 80's women barely had any rights, and before the 1900's they weren't even considered humans, they were just the possessions of their husbands or father
@@user-us1r-us2r-us3r feminist nonsense. women have always been treated better than men in every way. even after all of the feminist rules have been put into place, they are still treated better under the law. you are taking the example of a minority of people that were mistreated by a minority of men and tarring the entire human race with that brush. criminals still exist today you know, but not eveyone is a criminal.
@@user-us1r-us2r-us3r unfortunately, TH-cam does not appear to be the place for this conversation. You are allowed to post nonsense, but I am not allowed to reply.
One of the reasons why I stopped watching ShoeOnHead. It's easier to ignore everyone hating the fact I've got dangly bits and seeming to think that because I'm male I'm a plague. This is why I don't bother. I go to work, I go fish, I camp, and I keep to myself. Hurts less.
Sorry for the extra long rants, some tweets infuriate me 💀
Thanks for watching and recommending the video!
I think I can speak for all viewers when I say that your insight on the topic was definitely interesting and worth sharing, so don’t stop trying to get your point across!
hi paws i want to say this we need women like you here in the USA you are sweet, kind,and levelheaded,alot of women here where i live you just can't talk too,i wish there was a woman like you here to meet, thanks for the reaction
Well, you are making good points on those rants. If only people had your ability to make sense and not be patronizing while ranting things in general would be better.
Thank God I never went on Twitter, mostly to see updates from some content creators which I usually follow.
I enjoy listening to your rants. You offer a perspective that I don't normally get to hear. I totally agree with you. Treat every person as a human being!
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
African Proverb
Isn't that the Africa's history?
@@Jokervision744+ Better than your history of killing women and children for black gold
@@Jokervision744 Pretty much the colonial era in a nutshell.
Sounds like Shaka Zulu's biography
Plot twist: the whole world is my village so this world shall burn.
Truth is, I'd rather be lonely than be in a romantic relationship and married to a woman who has no interest in my personality, only my money.
And will most likely cheat on you and take half of everything you have when you finally catch on. And god help you if you had kids with her, you're paying for child support while her next dude is also paying for her lol
DO NOT TRY RIGHT NOW. I PROMISE YOU IT'LL BE BAD. I'm Gen Z but barely. 19, got fucked over by multiple women, family included. Like yeah, I get it people make mistakes but come on how does me not wanting to take responsabilty for a baby she had while cheating make ME the bad guy.
@@NightfurySkrill_Joel ya fuck that if they slept with someone sees its their problem not a me problem and one reason I'd say I'd want a DNA test or we need to make it mandatory at child birth
Well, the idea maybe that is such a scenario would cause the loneliness regardless. Being right next to a gold digger wife is lonely itself. But I understand what you mean.
@@NightfurySkrill_Joel it doesn’t she just doesn’t want to lay in the bed she made for herself & hella women have this weird need to not hold other women accountable for there actions. Stay strong man. Hold them accountable, get that DNA test, than cut contact, block numbers, do whtvr you gotta do to tell them *it is over*
My favorite thing about this is they keep saying words like “Nazi” and the such, not having any actual idea what they are talking about.
Seems to be a common factor in those tweets, a lack of education/understanding of what words mean :(
Fun fact... A lot of these people are in universities
Nazism is a far right authoritarian ideology with heavy racist, xenophobic, and antisemitic tendencies.
@@pawsvtuber It's because, in the West in general, and the US in particular, the word has been appropriated and deformed from its original role as an identifier of the actual party that controlled Germany of its period into a catch-all identifier for "someone who thinks even marginally to the right of me politically".
Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking who's been raised outside of the public education system can see just how watered down and irrelevant the word has been rendered. It's used for shock value in Western politics, and little else. Of course, since the public education system encourages group-think rather than free thought, it tends to get results that the politicians want.
@@LoathsomeLucifer strange how they don't notice that men's loneliness correlates in no way to, nor is solved by, any of those things. Nazism, Communism, Marxism, and Fascism cannot and will not help anyone be less lonely.
If you think that's bad, Shoe got so much heat for this video that she did a follow up about all the heat she got for trying to acknowledge the problem.
that's honestly sad
I just think she sounds fake af, like penguinz0, sound like they're on the Radio or something.
@@MagiaBased She's been fighting the good fight for about a decade.
That's quite a long time to be faking it.
@@CuriousityFTW damn and it did absolutetly nothing, actually society got worse in that time. .
Damn really..? I mean it's always true with truth. But that sucks
Women kept saying "we don't need no man!" and men finally listened.
Something something "women got exactly what they wanted, women most affected"
This is the exact kind of generalization and division that Paws spoke against. A woman will gain nothing by painting men with negative generalizations, and similarly a man will gain nothing by painting women with negative generalizations. Not all women (or even a majority) have been shouting "we don't need no man". A healthy society is where most men understand they need women, and women understand that they still need men. Ignore voices which seek to divide and turn things into a gender war, and instead look to voices that seek to unify and reach across the isle.
@@xuvial1391tried speaking against it. I got shouted down repeatedly, even by women in my family. No hearing me out, no pause for consideration, just an immediate "you don't care about women then". Full stop. So you know what? I stopped worrying about it and walked away. Most of these people will never learn, much less admit they might have been wrong, until they hit rock-bottom.
@@xuvial1391see that’s great and all. But now it’s up to the women who are against the feminist bs to speak up against it. Men only started saying they don’t need women because there’s so many women today saying how trash men are and that they don’t need men. So the men finally listened and were like okay we don’t need you either and now people are like “oh wait, you can’t say that you incel!”.
So again, now it’s the women who are against the feminist bs to speak up against it.
@@axelmilan4292even at rock bottom they'll just blame men lmao. They'll never learn
*"This is the future you chose."*
Women on the internet: “If you’re lonely just rub one out”
*some time later*
Women writing articles: “Where have all the men gone? It feels like they used to be around but we don’t really see them in the gyms or malls anymore.”
Man the cause and effect has been interesting to watch over the last 10 years. Get ready for even more “Where are all the men” articles.
From more and more bitter old maids, growing more bitter by the day.
I definately see more and more cat videos
Yeah definitely, keep in mind though the people who are calling men Nazis or whatever are still a minority, but they are extremely loud and relentless. The women who have braincells are probably gonna be the ones writing those future articles most of the time. The rest who caused the issue in the first place and complained later can reap what they sowed.
And even more "women most affected" articles.
I wonder when things would maybe end up better someday.
Maybe having women who are atleast not as hostile and atleast pretend to have some understanding and compassion for men at some point, i don't imagine they ever will collectively...
I think male culture as a whole is pulling itself away from women because being attached to women has gone from being a wonderful thing to the equivalent of having steel barb shoved up the arse.
Saw a video a while back asking "why are men having troubles or avoid approaching women these days?" and proceeds to list the following arguments,
If he compliments your looks, it's sexual harassment. If he stays quiet, it´s male indifference.
If he buys you flowers, he's after something. If he doesn't, he's not thoughtful.
If he's proud of his achievements, he's full of himself. If he isn't, he's not ambitious.
If he works out, he's vain. If he doesn't, he's a slob.
If he puts a woman on a pedestal and tries to protect her, he's a chauvinist. If he stays at home and does housework, he's pansy.
If he let's himself be vulnerable, he's a wimp. If he doesn't, he's insensitive.
If he pursues you, he's stalking. If he doesn't, he lacks self-confidence.
In short, there´s no right option. Only wrong.
I hope the day comes when the "it us versus them" gender battle becomes a "It's us, humanity, against the unknown future" adventure.
The only way to win is to not play.
Unknown future? I thought the known future was humanity slowly declining to reproduce into extinction.
@@WrensthavAviovus I think that was the point. Under the Us vs. Them argument, you are 100% correct. Once that stuff goes away and we join forces, that's not a known future anymore.
As one guy said in one of these videos. The hardest people on me in life are the women in my family. They'd rather me die on my white horse than become vulnerable
You see, guys aren’t becoming gay because they are attracted to guys, it’s because they’re losing interest in women.
So, something worth clarifying. When Shoe says "A man will crawl through broken glass for a purpose" it isnt about being a breadwinner, a provider, having a family it isnt about any of those specific purposes, but they do want to feel like they have some kind of purpose.
and sometimes that purpose is as small as a hobby they enjoy, be it gaming or being a massive warhammer nerd or making weird stuff in their garage by welding random objects together. Just existing tends to really fuck someone up for extended periods of time, and on average, men more so.
Ive seen men stay in toxic situations, professionally, romantically, privately all because the other party helps them have a purpose, no matter how petty. Hell. most armies recruitment method primarily targets someone 'seeking a purpose
being a house-husband or live in maid is still a purpose, and even though its not 'traditional' it still takes care of the fundamental need to be needed.
and there are outliers, and exceptions, though often those ones have more given up on a purpose than just dont want one.
as a male, yes. it's not necessary about making a family. it's about having a community wherein you can fulfill a role. be it joining the military, or having a hobby and the related community. making a family happens to fulfill that criteria as well.
Agreed, it is more to do with biology than anything else. The modern world is completely feminist at this point, even though they still complain about a mythical patriarchy. It is a western problem, a lot of these takes would end up with people being in prison in other countries.
100% agree. Feminists often misunderstand that a 'purpose' isn't necessarily about reclaiming dominance in society as much as just "I want a role in SOMETHING".
They literally solved ptsd during the blitz by having them drive ambulances
The most important 7 words in Star Wars Teilogy. "Help me Obi-Wan, you're our only hope"
This is what happened when society in general favors one and dehumanized the other. Its like making a black sheep in the family.
Intergration not seperation. Society needs to stick together or fall apart on it's own. It's werid to think how we stripped the culture for parts and are shocked at the problems that it used to solve are popping back up.
@@DM-mi4jeexactly.
Nobody can do anything in life without another person.
YOU LITERALLY WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTENCE IF NOT FOR YOUR PARENTS
@@Kaltsit-so…?
I'm a man and the black sheep of the family. So I guess I'm screwed
@@chuusenberg519 Stop putting fences, is what they’re trying to say.
I've seen a lot of comments from women amounting to "why should we care", which is kind of hilarious to me because that's like the lions saying they don't care if their prey animals go extinct or farmers saying they don't care if the crop is declining.
If you want good men, you need to be interested in things that affect them.
As for the pathetic doormats patting women on the back for being horrible harpies on the internet: that's pick-me behaviour for guys. "I'm a good guy, sleep with me please, choose me, I'm safe". Sad. That's the type of guy that will turn around and call a woman all sorts of names if she doesn't respond positively to their "quirky" pickup lines.
You aren’t our prey, we are not feining 4 u 😭🤷
Exactly, that "men are gorrible to be around anyway" maggot is speaking about himself exclusively.
@@chuusenberg519 But, just how little reading comprehension can you have?
Two things:
1. A VTuber watching Maxxor, Shoe, and Internet Historian? ONE OF US, ONE OF US
2. I like her design
Speaking as a man Paws, men can't just exist without a purpose, we need a purpose to exist.
no one can exist without a desire to live (purpose) imo, my point was that a purpose shouldn't be tied to someone else, but for yourself as an individual
Sorry if I didn't make it clear!
The easiest way to have purpouse is to give yourself purpose, anyone else saying you can't is trying to sell you something.
@pawsvtuber it seems like this is the vast majority of men, tho. We dont get much motivation or confidence in life outside of being able to help the women we admire. Consequently, the most men today aren't doing anything significant with their lives. It's just how men are
@@pawsvtuber The point she was making was that via the history of human beings on planet earth, life 50,000+ years ago was a basic game of survival. Hunt, eat, protect. Gender roles were as basic as other animals on the planet, males gather food and protect, females have and raise babies. This concept is not only unknown to people these days but the mere utterance of it triggers people. We are products of those times, those roles are now going away completely, if not gone completely. But 200 years of modern society doesn't remove the thousands of years of evolution where these things were programmed into us as a necessity. So people will still feel the need to do these things, mostly unconsciously. She is not saying that men need to be protectors and women stay in the kitchen. She is saying that in the context of men and women interacting, men still feel the need to do certain things. Unfortunately men are more often being told that women do not need them anymore, which has led to this situation. (I am simply talking in general terms about billions of males interacting with billions of females, not a specific gender dynamic that you or other people might be more familiar with)
@@pawsvtuber as a man i will tell you we need a purpose to exist or we end up detorying our selfs women dont understand that becuse they are not a man seeing your reaction olny made me understand so much more that women will never understand but how can they atleast shoeonhead may be the olny woman who trys her best to she seems to atleast care
Honestly the only reason I don’t off myself is because my mother is still struggling to take care of my younger siblings, they are the only anchor I have left.
Brotherly hug.
Virtual hug bro 🙏😎 I'm only here so I don't make my family hurt.
keep being strong,brotha'.we are all lonely out here,and we also supports you.i know this sounds like a lie,but i'm genuine.keep being strong,brotha'.
... Fuck...
You are strong, and you are making a difference... That's all any of us can hope for, right?
Mine broke apart. Revenge and sweet irony is my drive now. Once rich, I win. I care about nothing else now. Anything for a stack of Benjamins in my pocket.
All those women complaining are also the same women who cry "Where did all the men go?"
Just like in NYC right now, women are getting attacked and they wonder why men won't interfere or stop it.
The last guy who did, is in jail for protecting a woman who was getting attacked.
Men also get get blamed for literally every evil in the world. If a man flirts with a woman, it's considered sexual harassment in the US atm, and a bunch of similar issues.
Yeah the NYC punching thing a lot of girls in tik tok blaming men for that,
Men are the problem, clearly not because theyre defunding the police
Excuse me, WHAT happened in NYC??!?
Thank God I don't live in the US
@syressx9098 I remember seeing that a guy who helped this lady that was being mugged by a homeless dude was arrested and charged with like 5 different charges cause he had a gun and fired warning shots to scare him off
@@Wayra_ Damn, that's tough
as a male myself its rough out there.
I live in a tropical city and I always wear a coat cause the world is so cold
It is really rough, my dumbass started liking cars, one of the most expensive hobbies
I don't have that much money, I'll probably never will and the not having enough money for my dream car lead to being sad and (in game, TH-cam, in game) want I To do that little thing that makes you stop live
TRUE
Facts!
Keep your head up.
All of those women saying it's not their problem fail to realise that most men are raised in single mother households, it is most definitely your problem as well.
Meaning the men left because hey couldn't handle responsibilities. You just proved men like you are the problem lmao
Even in a nuclear family it's becoming their fault. Watched mine tear apart my family at a young age, cause constant stress, cheat, etc. Watched that poor man just go through so many stages of regret. I work primarily with women and always hear how they talk about the men they're with and its awful. Coworkers having "relationship issues" and then draping over me during a work party while drunk. Women kinda obliterate the relationship system even before they get to the single mother stage lmao. And being fair there are guys that don't help this case. Having dudes willing to help a girl cheat the moment she's impaired by alcohol or a bad day is not alright. The simps blowing their egos up constantly is not alright.
My mom treats me horribly because I'm a guy. My dad sat silent for a while but now isn't letting her jabs go unchallenged. She's threatened divorce a couple of times. She's also accused my sisters of being sexist because my sisters didn't want to watch the female sports during the Olympics.
@@enomisv9830 Dude, you need to find a way to live alone.
@@slaayerr1 Good jod blaming it mostly on women bozo
The irony of people on Twitter saying “they need help” and then immediately turning around and pointing the finger at them when they ask for help or simply need help…
I don’t like using this line, but sometimes we truly do live in a society.
Edit: around 21:30- post nut clarity is very real and a lot of people seem to forget that.
And then wonder why we won't let ourselves be vulnerable. They'd rather us die on our white horse instead of falling off
If I knew if I went to sleep today and I wouldn't wake up
It would be the most peaceful sleep of my life no more pain.
i want nothing more than that brother
but we must be strong for our loved ones they need us
@@dante9656 your lucky to have loved ones. Nobody needs me
FR I would never take any actions to make it happen, but I would embrace it's natural occurance with open arms.
We're just fucking tired.
So we will let everything we're holding to fall because we're fuckig tired.
Society and Civilization included.
Real.
There was an African proverb about a child burning down a village just to feel it's warmth.
Why should we as men, break our backs for a society that has hated us since the 80s.
"you're god damn right"
The provide and protect thing is legit. We are simple, much simpler they make us out to be. Juat need a sweetheart, family , than ill feel completely fulfilled protecting all of that. For most if us that feels like our purpose. We need purpose. We need women. So when we dont have those things or get rejected for too long .. we self delete.
Fun fact 50% of male suicides had no history of depression. It becomes, literally like " no one needs me" followed by a bang.
Ugh
Thank God I don't live in the west
Sounds ike a shithole place to live
Men are more logical than emotional. If they do the mental math and come to the conclusion that their life has no meaning, then the next step is self-deletion, usually.
No record just means no Dr has seen mental state prior to the self ending and mental declines cann happen preety fast once ther isn't a social circel around anymore soo you just pointed out that most Mann get depression dont get help and fall very deep in a short time
And I cann see myself in a similar Situation
I had a pretty shity child hood (negletive mother, mobbing,and same other stuff) that probably lead in that direction early on
first time suicidal thoughts with the age of 13
About 2 years later one of my friends died in a train accident and that mad me realise how hard death cann hit the peopel around and that I couldn’t do that too my Father
Soo i still have reasons too go on an therfore time find a porpuse or samething in that Ball Park
I have my first suicidal though on 12 (I have grown up in an almost perfect family but with a really stressful expectation as the first child of the house) and continuously goes on for 6 years until I have my first girlfriend and that though slowly faded away until she dumped me and I can't even think straight for a week, I don't want to talk with my friends, I don't want to play any games despite being one of the most enjoyable things in my life. I was almost cutting myself when I called my aunt and tell her about the ex, and she told me that I should focus on the University. After another 6 years, I still, sometime, have a suicidal though when I have nothing to do, luckily (that it is not a drug), I have strong addiction for video games so that though gone away pretty quick when I have a hand on my PC.
It feels like, since I'm a man - with Asperger's Syndrome, might I add - that society expects me to act not as a human being, but rather as a monster.
It's only a question of time before people get tired and say, "You want your monster? Fine. I'll be your monster."
It feels good to not be ignored.
Then they will use men too kill you, giving them a brief purpose. Once your gone, the cycle will continue and the only person you can believe understood you was the man who fought the world before.
Sadly this is a trend throughout history, when a group is ignored or blown off it’s a matter of time before they retaliate then the sad part is the former party who contribute to the development will suddenly ask, how did this happen; completely lacking self awareness. Do they think Germany suddenly became Nazi Germany out of nowhere? Or did the demonization and isolation from the world after the 1st world war pushed them to demand respect, even at the cost of their humanity and other lives?
We’re already getting it. Not saying it’s the main or only cause, but why do you think shootings have only increased in recent years?
@noirhelios Unrest in the inner cities is increasing in the US, as is drug traffic, illegal immigration, and political polarization. By and large (and media will never report on it), the vast majority of shootings are in the big cities, where people see each other every day.
When I lived out in the countryside, country folk shooting each other was nearly unheard of despite owning more guns on average than city residents. It's all about culture, and modern popular culture in the media tries to sell US city life as the way to be, with _every_ single problem such a life brings in tow.
@NewTypeDilemma01 its not the illegal immigration that is just the symptom like many otgers of the rich and corporations being too greedy and tilting the scale too much in their favor and squeezing the life out of the poor and the working class. People are cornered by out of control rent prices and healthcare costs that are completely divorced from reality. That leads to less opportunity and higher crime rates. It's not that there is a shortage of jobs at all, on the contrary, there is a glut of bad and dead-end jobs that don't even allow for subsistence living.
28:40 Most men are happy contributing to the family unit. Weather that’s being a bread winner & providing financial security or being a stay at home dad & caring for the house & kids. Either way the man is helping contribute to the family unit.
Indeed, who would've thought working together towards a goal would make people happy? 😭
You definitely don't speak for all men. I have no interest in being a pay pig for some opportunistic mercenary.
@@Cybertech134indeed, that’s why OP said “most”
@@mistah3687 Doesn't speak for most men either.
@@Cybertech134 you think you can represent most men?
What's crazy is that even "men's day" pretty much gets zero attention. A couple of my coworkers talked about this and one of them expressed shock that there was even a men's day, despite also acknowledging he knew about women's day.
It's rather satisfying that the men's rating of women on okcupid follows a pretty standard bell curve.
My closest friends are absolutely online right now. But I really should make some close friends in person.
The reason people like to separate things into groups is, in my eyes, this: People want to feel a part of something, and they will naturally separate things based on differences. However, to say they are a part of the human race would be too broad of a "something" for most people. So, they separate people and themselves into groups. The more exclusionary they can make that group, the "better", because it can help them feel special. You have broad umbrellas that will then get smaller and smaller, until you have something pretty specific. Whenever people say they don't judge people, I immediately call bs.
wait mens day is a thing?
@@jonharrison5869 Yep, November 19th.
@@NicolasClark7732 its the same month as my birthday wtf?
i have no idea what my purpose is, for the past several years iv just been existing on auto pilot
No worries you'll find it soon brother
I feel you, I was on autopilot for like 7 years 💀
mine is on for 22 years now, i`m 22 btw
You are lucky that you are on autopilot, I was "A robot that is being given commands" for 20 years and turned into autopilot for another 5 years... I am 25 rn.
18:50 There is a propensity online for Male Feminists to act and behave like this, which often also can be seen as the "Nice Guy" syndrome as well. They tend to eventually be outed as a type of predator within a few months.
39:11 she wasn't saying your purpose needs to be family, just that us men WILL make sometimes horrific sacrifices for a/our purpose. That said, a family is by far what most men want. Whether its JUST a wife and him, or the whole package, kids and all, most men still want a family
It is definitely true that this content is primarily aimed at a US audience. The politics of the US is in such a divisive polarized state that groups, regardless of what the group is, are just used as game pieces to solidify the power of the ruling parties. Wanna know why it works that way? It starts with m and rhymes with honey. Ironically, in the US, boys are taught to be a way through the available role models, and then society tells them those are unacceptable in real life. It is, in fact, a systemic issue that needs to be addressed but it is so politicized that doing so isn’t actually possible. The right side screams about feminizing boys, and the left side refuses to acknowledge that not all masculinity is toxic. Both sides genralize all men as the same. There is a proper way to handle this, but it has to be done to better society, not to advance an agenda starting with children.
"The ride side screams about feminizing boys"
Look at the shit that goes on in American schools if you really find it so hard to believe us.
unfornatly its not just america now its spread across canada and all of western europe.
schandinavia is just getting back to sanity after a 1000 percent increase in GRAPGRAPE.
@@housewilma4904 sadface.
In School every event was Men vs Women. And every time regardless of results they would declare women the winners.
Men wouldn't participate so they had to assign it.
Damn, that sucks. Here we always had pairing done by lottery for events. Only thing that was different was sports, which was split between genders for certain games (as in girls vs girls, boys vs boys)
@@pawsvtuberMy Elementary(Primary) school did it to raise the girls morale
@@ImprovmanZerothese 8 yr olds be swole lolz.
I remember back in Year 0/Nursery, the teacher would always let the girls choose which toys to play with first. They would take literally all the best ones for themselves and the guys they liked and the boys who weren't on the girls good sides would be left with essentially nothing.
@@epiccarrot88 at first I thought you meant age 0.
Honestly rubbing it off sometimes makes you even lonelier than before
It really can be hollowing. I've stopped jacking it so often and cut p*rn out of my life completely, and life seems easier to live. Nobody needs all that fake shit because it's brainrot incarnate.
Hasan Piker: hears about male loneliness and male suicide and tweets "LMAO!".
Hasan when he gets 13000 watchers: "I might just kill myself."
LMAO
coward was to scared to fight HYDE, Pathetic
He should just actually do it
tbh Hasan, not because of gender, but because of who he is as a person, os completely fucking useless
@@defnotteek dial it back
Never saw Paws this angy before
Dumb comments are probably the easiest way to anger me 😅 , but ya, it's rare..
@@pawsvtuberCompletely understandable, especially when it comes to people behaving so callously towards those who’ve personally done them no wrong other than existing. It really boils my blood like no other
One of the best reactions from someone who isn't American. You actually listened and understood a lot what she was talking about and didn't try and discredit how bad the US is or just social media towards men in general ❤
My life would be complete if I could headpat the soft fluffy paws ears ❤
Don't tell anyone, but there's a chat redeem for different headpats 👀
@@pawsvtuberToo lewd paws. Next you are going to offer platonic hand holding.
@@pawsvtuber A what?
@@DM-mi4jeMy life would be complete if I could get fluffy platonic hugs
I'm a house husband, have been for about 7 years now- ever since the day my boss refused to let me have my first child's first birthday off. Its rough, but fulfilling. I get to be there for my kids in a way my own father absolutely wasn't. The trade off for that is that I don't go out, I don't have in person friends and my own sister, who was also abandoned by our father, has cut me so far out of her life that I don't think she even knows I'm alive. All because I don't work a wage earning job. I work my ass off to raise my children to be competent human beings, but that's not enough. Thank god my wife is a bad ass or I'd have completely given up on humanity in general.
You're a great father. I just want to let you know that.
@@its_johnH Thank you. :)
I would get a paternity test on those kids if I were you
Its good that you are raising your kids
But its bad your sending your women out while your inside
Men need to be working to be fulfilled. It doesnt have to be a wage slave job but it can even be something simple they enjoy
@@ryojs4286 You seem to not understand how much effot it takes to maintain a home with children in it. Raising kids used to be a full time job. It isn't anymore because prices are rising and two people's worth of income is needed to support a functioning household, barely. To the detriment of the children, of course.
When women stop having unrealistic expectations, stop with the false accusations, and stop telling men to be more emotionally sensitive when those same women aren’t capable of understanding or caring about said emotions, THEN we can talk about getting the dating scene back to normal.
True
Praise the sun brother or sister
Is this not contributing to the problem by generalizing a group?
@@pacowallochenkenrick Unrealisric expectations is a very broad subject. It’s everything from height to income level.
@@CdrChaos right but what I’m saying is you claim women (general) need to be like this for us to be like that, which is kinda the same mentality the people in the video have. Isn’t it just better to not think of others as a general group and go out into the dating world expecting to meet individuals? I feel like the more you focus on the group as a whole, the less you’ll be willing to interact with them, which is one of the reasons contributing to the issues underlying the video
It's not about family it's about purpose. It's not just a "you need to be a family man" thing
"Why do you need a purpose, as a man, to exist? Why can't you just exist?" Paws, we'd love nothing more. This goes back to the beginning, though. Men have always had to provide something, somehow, to someone else - preferably a woman and her children for the purposes of advancing the species - or they had no value. Existing just because we are human is not something we get from society. As the abandonment of gender roles began with women, men have been resistant to dropping their own, and women have benefitted from that, but the younger generations are realizing that, having been told how useless and unnecessary we are, that we could just apply our own gender role to ourselves. So, men protect and provide for themselves. This looks like guys having just enough to be happy and seeking nothing greater (while women call this man a broke loser) and protecting himself from the things that can harm him like women who mean to use him for what he can provide, women who outright hate him, and political parties aiming to martial him against their opponents (because that still technically counts as a purpose).
To just... exist. It's a dream. Everyone wants something from us. The fewer people we can or choose to give things to, the less people like us. We also don't typically fight back (societal conditioning), and therefore make a good, safe place to lay the blame for everything. And we typically don't mind it, because we just accept that it is what it is. If we want a relationship, we know that we have to bring a broad selection of things to the table, which does line up with the ridiculous nonsense Tate is teaching. But he is using these sad men to make money, too, and doesn't seem to care. Where we get tripped up, though, is that women aren't allowed to be asked what they bring to the table. It feels unfair. And so men protect themselves and provide for themselves instead of for the both of them.
It's not all women that are this way. But there is a *lot* of confusion in them because men taking a step back is not what they expected. Men not engaging the games and the risks, leaving them to do it themselves is against the way they were taught that men should be. The hikikomori in Japan are able to live well on their own, but it's not good for them. I need regular encouragement to get out myself, and I recognize that my silence and evasion of the parts of society that are unkind to me is not helpful and creates a downward spiral. It's really easy to just presume nobody cares, and so there are a number of women who do want meaningful and reciprocal relationships that either keep the narrative that men aren't important and they are independent and strong at the ready, or their friends intervene and feed them bad info to make them abandon the guy or get him to shy away. Every female v-tuber I have seen react to Shoe has said, "not all women are like this!" and I believe them. But just like men don't wear a sign saying they are a monster, neither do women. It's tough, because the current state of things is polarizing women against each other, where one side blames men for all of everything and attack the women that side with them, and the other wants the first side to stop running the men out of society, not realizing that men are leaving society because it's the least problematic answer. It's the least trouble for everyone.
I'm American and i grew up similar to you, or at least how you described it. Early 2000s US never talked about any of this political nonsense or men v women or whatever. We were just chill and even adults, nobody really cared that much about all these "issues". But like, right around 2012-14 I'd say, it felt like my entire country got infiltrated by political activists and now all the news/online people do is blast us with divisionary content and make everything into an us vs them issue. Truly watching the downfall of my country in real time.
Politics weren't as toxic pre-2001 because everyone talked about politics. There was no "oh my god I can't believe Gred is a x person", instead there was only "Yeah that is Greg, he's an x person but he's chill". There was a massive push starting around 2005 to make talking politics controversial which was very very very stupid. Normalize talking politics like humanity did for its entire existence and things will calm down. As of right now the only people talking politics are crazy people online and DC which is why things are so bad. Of course your county has bad roads, you don't even know who is in charge of fixing them. Of course your school is failing, you can't even name 2 board members on the BOE. Nobody knows anything anyone who does try to no gets called crazy for trying to learn
Also anytime you see a "controversial" issue just think "wait who decided this was a controversial opinion?". For a bold example, guns in the US. Over half the country owns at least 1 gun and over half of the states allow permitless carry but yet somehow despite the majority owning them and wanting easier access the entire topic is deemed "controversial". This can be applied to many topics. A universal opinion or fact can be deemed evil in a single 24 hours and a large swath of the population will just accept it as such, proven by 4chan with the "OK" meme. A symbol known and used by everyone suddenly became """"""controversial"""""" enough to get you fired or lose brand deals.
As I like to say, You can ignore politics but politics will not ignore you.
My hypothesis on everything is, the worsening of it all reached its zenith around 2011/2012 because Occupy Wall Street started picking up steam, and The 1% did not like the 99% revolting, so they started controlling the media into crying about racism and sexism, and it all started devolvimg from there.
Is the WEF. They hate us.
I live my whole life in the US and can say i never heard of any politics about race and sex until the right to marry the same gender was passed. Thinking about it i always felt the topic of race and sex became a heavy talked about issue in 2016 and it only intensified since then to an extreme level that makes me realizing how fast it was.
It felt like 1 year, everything was focused on issue abroad outside of the US, then suddenly everything became racial issues that i though was fixed with the civil rights movement in the 60s that it makes me feel like we are progressing backwards.
It just feels so weird and infuriating hearing all these things that are issues when to me at least, were fixed or isn't severe as they were decades ago.
It really started around 2008
Lack of communication skills really kicks me in the nuts when trying to escape the loneliness. Words have been trapped in my throat for so long they might as well be geologic layers and now I'm afraid of exposing others to the built up pressure
I’m 36 and never had sex before. Now I’ve wanted something real. And I wanted to get married first before I do anything didn’t help with that too much.
But I’ve been on dating apps for years swiping and trying to get to know woman. And all I want is one. And I’ve been ghosted so many times and told by so many both men and woman tell me I’m extremely good looking.
And they keep telling me “no”. I can’t do anything with a no. So I just move on.
Well dating apps and mostly all things like it are a service. They don't solve your problem out of kindnesses. There made to get as much money out of you as possible. Me and my friend did a tinder experiment. Where we used the same profit. One was paid for the monthly bill. Other the free. The free one get 1 match the whole time. And yes ghosted. Never saying anything. The paid got 10. 8 ghosted. Meaning that unless you paid it virtually pointless to use the thing.
It's not just on Twitter. I've heard these comments from women towards their husbands or boyfriends. The dating pool is a nightmare so many people are just avoiding for the sake of their self-love.
I want to be a house husband. I've always wanted to be a dad. But at this point, It's more realistic for me to win the lottery and Adopt some kids, then to get a partner now a days.
Adopting as a single man is nearly impossible. It would be easier if you claimed you were gay and had a friend play your partner.
That's why their words holds no weight anymore. It's just word salad of anything they can think of that is associated with evil. Their words are like Yo momma jokes.
"Mr. Spock, the women on your planet are logical - it's the only planet in this galaxy that can make this claim"
a lot of the twitter/youtube responses to ShoeonHead are like, "Shoe is just a 'Pick Me' girl" even though she's engaged.
22:08
Oh boy do we have news for you
*looks at male suicide rate, to which I attempted and almost added to that statistic a year and a half ago*
Had though about it but did not do ot cuz of my family love them
Solitude is a state of being. Loneliness is a state of mind.
Saw a comment "men are told yo not cry". And that's right. It's okey for women to cry. If a man will cry in front of friends, gf - they will lose respect for him. If you want to cry - okey, but alone, with no one to see you.
Btw, that’s why Shoe mentions women loneliness as well.
Both of these issues can only be solved by people, not one or the other side. We have to work together to solve it together.
They are irreversibly interconnected, to solve one will aid the other.
"Not one or the other side" even though the, source, cause, propagator, and one with complete control over the issue, including the voting power for the legal problems, is exclusively women.
So...literally one side.
@@midgetydeath I see your point but I disagree with it on part of that technically speaking, being fearful to talk to women is our fault as men.
Most women are not that harsh about things as we think they are.
@@Kaltsit- no
@@Kaltsit-Yes
My response to people being dicks is "I'm tired, shut up, go away, leave me be in peace."
people like you are why I have faith in humanity, thanks Paws!
"Batman would be disappointed."
😔
This is the reason why a lot of men are going over seas to find a woman, especially to Asian countries. Which is a risk there are many stories of men loosing it all and being stuck there or even killed. However the success stories are far higher and now women are made that men are going and finding happiness.
As a man i can confirm. I'm pretty damn lonely.
Same brother
We are miserable. And we are the bad guys for trying to not be miserable.
18:19 This is how actual predators speak btw. *Most* men are terrible and you shouldn't trust men but he's one of the "better ones" and he's agreeing with the "right" opinion so you can trust him. He is absolutely not someone who accepts rejection, he knows this and tries to separate you from anyone who can protect you from him preemptively.
I dont like talking about my age on the internet because people get condescending, but as someone who just got into high school, i have to say the poor treatment of men is especially noticeable in the school system even all the way back in 1st grade i noticed that the girls got special treatment this could just be mine area but idk anyone else notice this anywhere else in the US?
Oh no, its everywhere, education, employment ect.
If it makes you feel any better Im damn near treated as a potential rapist at my current jobsite simply for being a guy around young girls trying to do a job.
And now I sit in my dungeon, slowly losing my mind whilst developing parasocial dependencies.
Haha, Paws' ears go ↔
Its been 3 years since a sun ray touched my screen and im about to mortis...
Haha funny vtuber go brrr
32:08 Straight white french men. Unfortunately no, marriage laws, paternity laws, my skin color, my body and my gender has all been attacked in real life as much as on internet. You just didn't listened to it, but people like that do exist in europe, and there are a lot of them recruting.
I laughed hard when I heard “They should be locked up!”, cause I agree 100%.
Funny thing about the whole "men do the most murder" thing is that women are far better at being murderers. Female serial killers have body counts that dwarf almost every male one. Biggest case and point...... Elizabeth Bathory!
Yup but they don't get expect it cuz they're women. And society thinks that safer so less like to be a killer. Society has reflecting upon itself.
I'm 36 now with no family of my own.. it may seem like it doesn't matter, but it's part of our nature to want a good woman in our life and a son or daughter. Mostly, I think we just want someone to make us a better person and help us grow. They say they don't need no man... until the plumbing breaks or they need the driveway paved or they need soldiers to fight for them, because thats the man's job, according to women. We are supposed to fight and die so they can say we have no value..men admit we need women, but women refuse and straight up condem us for even existing, even if we've done nothing
A big problem with the US specifically is if we try to just talk about people as a general or whole we get accused of ignoring minority groups. That we're ignoring problems that specificallt target this group or that group. Its part of why plenty of guys here have decided to just unplug and disconnect from society. Sadly the mainstream institutions are so intent on things being mens fault or that we have it off better no matter what, that they won't listen to anything we say. Its a problem we are basically attacked for talking about and basically cannot solve.
As for the 'Patriarchy' bs, the people that constantly claim that we've benefited from this supposed system love to ignor that for so much of history it was a fraction of a precentage of men who had massive power while the rest of men were in just as bad place as women. And some people would argue a worst case because only men through most of history would be ordered off to die in war for the whims of the powerful few.
You know nothing lmao. Incels and their pathetic attempts at rewriting history to fit their regressive narrative, laughable. Only some men all all the money and power but that doesn't change the fact that even for regular people, men still had more power than women, hell, before 1900's women weren't even considered as human beings, they were just their husbands possessions. Fucking hypocrite
"The music they listen too has derogatory lyrics!" That's just straight up not true, 90% of the music I listen to doesn't even include lyrics.... society is so fucked up.
As a man, I was lucky enough to grow up in the 90s. I may be single, but I have my close group of friends, so I never feel lonely.
Same
i'm so damn grateful i grew up in the 2000's and had a great childhood
And i've fortified my mind and body over the last few years to COPE with the world today
regardless, we still move forward
The 90s definitely showed us how to cope
Born in 99. Grew up during the transition, so I only had 5 close friends, but they were really close friends. We all went our separate ways and don't really talk that much anymore, but I remember us all meeting each other by chance once at an old place we used to hang out at, and we all instantly connected again. I still have them in my thoughts, and I still hope that they are doing great.
@@the_oc_maniac8972 born in "02"
I had a similar upbringing
Still have a strong group of freinds
But my Childhood was unforgettable
I guess I'm fine being alone, I guess. Not a choice but I'm fine
don't worry, we have 117 with us, we will pull through and we have hope of finding someone
"Men are lacking purpose" I choose to be single. I choose to be alone. I'm socially awkward and an introvert. It's not easy to transition less than 24 hours to be an extrovert. Rather work on myself than being shoved to the ground. I do remember watching a video somewhere that would chart out just exactly how women would go on if the existence of all men was eradicated.
same bro, fucking same.
The toxic masculinity women complain about absolutely exists, the problem is that it exists solely within women.
Solely? No man. Not even close.
@@Yggi11 single mother households are the majority. They are also funneling out men and women with more mental anguish than their counterparts by rate.
Women complain about men, the create the men they hate
I have a grand total of two close friends one of which my parents think is a “bad influence” because he plays video games a lot so I don’t even get to talk to him much
As much as i hate how they think i cant feel anything but a deep pity toward the guys in this vid saying how all men are awful because they are so deep in the hatred they hate themselves and feel like its DESERVED like the only good thing they can do in life is hate themselves for being born and that breaks my fucking heart
If I were a Hikikomori and I saw those staring videos. I wouldn't be afraid of it because of the women. I'd be afraid of the fact that the situation is so fucking bad, that men are viewed as unable to socialize.
Paws once again hitting you with that sage advice. Great video, and super fun to see your perspective and opinions on this topic. It's been real.
29:56 Look behind him.
There's not much to be said anymore but much of the reason for these situations is lack of 'correct' and 'mature' life experience & knowledge. If only people would read and listen.
Loneliness doesnt exist for woman. All it takes is a single post online and youll have more dudes jumping in to be your friend than you can even handle. And i'm not just talking about gooners. I'm talking about friendly dudes. (some scumbags yes, but mostly, well meaning dudes)
You can still be lonely while surrounded by people.
@@pawsvtuber Fair point. Let's put it another way, then. Lack of company doesn't exist for women (or, offers of companionship). You might feel lonely, but you never have to be physically alone. You could probably use the opportunity to eat for free at the same time, as well. The options available to women simply do not exist for the average man. Women seem to have a difficult time grasping this, but it's just a fact.
As you said being poor and things along that situation tend to be a massive hamper on the ability to go out and interact and such too. Though I admit for me it is a mix of as you said, survive the week, or also that people are just super trashy nowadays. It just turns me off of wanting to be social and have friends and all. And there is such a negative outlook on anyone that is depressed or has any mental health issues (not even just men), that it feels genuinely pointless to open up too. People need to stop being awful to each other and show a little bit of care at all. Everyone is lonely at one point or another and has things eating them alive inside. A little bit of decency can change a life. It's not one side or the other, its everyone. And most people don't care at all.
I stopped trying to get a relationship at this point
The thing is men and women are completely different. We both think differently we’re built differently.
Some men are built extra different
What I love about the "men are obsolete apart from procreation" thing is, even ignoring how society would collapse in a day without men, these people that completely reduce men to what they do for women and what you can get out of them, never seem to be able to explain what women are good for, besides procreation.
Everything you could say also applies to men.
originally toxic masculinity was coined in the 1800s during industrialization is was a criticism of men who worked too many hours at a factory rather than being at home with their family
It's like the scenario where the robot isn't supposed to hurt anything and comes to the conclusion that if said things didn't exist they can't be hurt.
= ( Really shitty reality. It really makes me depressed. I think it's sad that normal white guys don't seem to have say much on the internet and that people don't take us very seriously anywhere. The only friends I have are my mom and dad. And I have been like this for many years. Nobody reaches out and when you do, you're either shrugged off and not really acknowledge (leading to feelings of lack of self-worth). I've been in very dark times because of my loneliness and some days feels I still am, and I KNOW it's not exclusive to men, but you see this video and it speaks for itself. We don't get empowered, we get mocked or told we're not "man enough," most times. At least, in my experience. Thank you for the upload, and I am just very appreciative that you were open minded enough to at least check this video out. Seriously, I personally appreciate it.
also under current laws, many men risk death by marrying or dating women, i guess im blessed to be so ugly and poor, ill just stay alone and play video games, there is no one who would want me, and even if they did they would just be violent, im also closeted bisexual because raised very religiously and have concerns if i was open people would hurt me, im a lonely person, but i was never as alone as when i was married, living with someone who constantly tells you how much they hate you...i still have a 3 inch scar on my right arm to remember my last christmas being married, id rather be alone then go through that again, then again i dont even get to make that choice since no one would even want me in the first place, so guess ill buy Stellar Blade, btw good video, hopefully i didnt sound insane in the above, i cant convey tone in text, but thank you for your kind words on the subject, many people get to the point that they are isolated and feel everyone hates them
My opinion is dont give up hope bro no matter what you think of yourself dont look down on yourself even if u are so called "ugly" or poor its not the end now idk how old u are or anything but if something fails try it again and learn and if you keep failing remember that you have gone through so much stuff and that the problem you face is just another obstacle to your future so gl and hope this comment atleast made you smile alittle
shit im ugly and poor but have a loving partner be a good person bro and you will find the one i promise
I am just tired. Living makes me tired and want it to be done. (In therapy and working on it. I will be okay)
I exist to spite the universe at this point.
This isn't an attack but I did agree with a lot you said until you started talking about "People" as what we should be watching. I do agree we all need to get better and take care of each other regardless of gender or anything. But when you start doing that in a post or a place where people are talking about 1 issue like men or women or whatever it dilutes the meaning. The main problem with mens issues is that men feel like they are invisible and no one cares about their issues or just complains when they are brought up, taking men out of the equation and saying all people need help in this sense just magnifies that. It adds to their isolation and makes them feel like no one cares or only cares when other things are added into it.
Again you aren't wrong, people need help but just like we need to talk on specific issues on certain groups we need to talk on Mens issues separately first too. I hope that makes sense through text.
Sure we acknowledge that this is a problem, anything we can do about it? No. Nothing will change and never will change.
It will only get worse.
25:48 unironically, i would rather be homeless than being as lonely to the severe degree men can end up in quite frequently.... You have to be in absolute suffering to think breaking your bones to increase in height, like holy shit that is utterly horrific the more you think about it...
It's like those old era Christian who flagellate themselves grieving in misery for their perceived sins, it's horror, absolute horror.
30:16 i do not agree with leftists and leftism in general, it's too materialistic, it's too degenerate, it's too lacking in human understanding and the soul of a nation, it's too absent of the incentive that drives men to that sense of clarity and true power...
I don't mean bullshit political power,
True power is born from a vision, a vision of greatness, a vision that gives one reason to drag yourself even if your left with bloody stumps as legs.
Just found your channel. Wanted to say I appreciate your honest, fair, and intelligent viewpoints. Wish you well and tons of success with your channel
19:20 - as a male I can say that at some point in life you may just question yourself like what am I living for (especially when you're too were rational in life), this is quite simple but hard to find, and people are struggling to find even such little purpose to exist, so this is really hard to "just exist" for men, it feels like a shit tbh when you're doing nothing
Your thoughts at the end were very thought provoking. Very fun video love to see other peoples prospective on things.
I love how they hammer Peterson in the news report and then quote Vaush like he's more credible. I have my disagreements with Peterson, and he definitely gets weird on things. People can disagree with him on the trans movement, free speech, biblical interpretation, or any number of other issues. But the entire reason he's appealing to young men is the fact this is broader core message is, life is hard, but you have something to offer and the more you take responsibility for yourself and your immediate areas of influence, doing the best you can to approach it honestly, the more you can expand what you have the ability to accomplish. That you can be the kind of person people which they had in their lives if only you start simple and work your way up tonko to impactful things then there's no telling you might be capable of.
Meanwhile, the hammering on privilege and historical wrongs (usually very selectively chosen) is used to shame. Yes, privilege exists, though I would say it's pretty obvious it comes more from genetics and the circumstances you were raised in than factors like race or gender. Having decent parents and a community around you that values diligence and learning is probably 70% of it. But people shouldn't be shamed for having advantages, they should be encouraged to do what they can with those advantages for the good of the world.
And if it wasn't for men these women wouldn't have anything no phone no electricity and no car and no makeup no perfume no job no air conditioning no medicine and no house nothing
Hell I need men too because if it was up to me to make stuff we'd still be riding horses bareback and making wood tents or sleeping underneath trees and hunting with rocks and big ass sticks like an extremely brutal game of whack-a-mole 😂
But seriously at the end of the day we all need each other
Do you create yourself smth my boy? Sad and pathetic.
Loneliness and not feeling like nobody wants you is a real and serious thing. people aren't taking it seriously enough, loneliness can also lead to depression and that can then lead to even worser things. People saying all these insensitive things doesn't help anybody and isn't the solution.
"Get some vitamin D in you.
...Giggity."
And with that single joke, my day has been brightened. Thank you. :3
Outstanding video Paws 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
It’s always nice to hear support from people after watching this “Origin of the Vtubers” video (alternate title for this video) to remind us that there is hope and understanding out there, especially from a fluffy person such as yourself. For others at least since my self esteem is so low it’s in the negatives and going to take a lot time to fix that mess. But the big problem causing it is the Us VS Them mentality that I dislike so much that I don’t even like PvP games because of it. And this is the video that made me start saying “All statements that include everyone in a group, does NOT include everyone in that group, This statement included”
As a guy I have simply given up in totality trying to relate to women. I have a nice job lined up and after hitting the gym I am stronger than I ever have been. By cutting out women I can feel fulfilled in everything else. Trying to chase after them causes nothing but grief. I have never met such a heartless group of people. Talking to a random guy off the street I can form a stronger bond than throwing myself at any girl. I will never understand how women can be so evil for no apparent reason.
Prior to the 80's, women were mainly in part time jobs. Following the 80's, they became full time workers. At the time, there was a discussion as to how flooding the market with additional labour would affect pay. It used to be possible for a household to survive off a single income as wages were higher due to demand, now this is not the case. We have had to introduce childcare payments from the government to enable both the man and woman to work - effectively a state subsidised nanny service. Babies go into childcare from the age of 1.
The only benefitiary to all of these changes have been the companies. It is not a surprise that we have ultra rich people in the world. Cheaper labour and a higher workforce = more productivity and profit. To hell with the social fallout.
Before the 80's women barely had any rights, and before the 1900's they weren't even considered humans, they were just the possessions of their husbands or father
@@user-us1r-us2r-us3r feminist nonsense. women have always been treated better than men in every way. even after all of the feminist rules have been put into place, they are still treated better under the law.
you are taking the example of a minority of people that were mistreated by a minority of men and tarring the entire human race with that brush. criminals still exist today you know, but not eveyone is a criminal.
@@user-us1r-us2r-us3r unfortunately, TH-cam does not appear to be the place for this conversation. You are allowed to post nonsense, but I am not allowed to reply.
One of the reasons why I stopped watching ShoeOnHead. It's easier to ignore everyone hating the fact I've got dangly bits and seeming to think that because I'm male I'm a plague.
This is why I don't bother. I go to work, I go fish, I camp, and I keep to myself. Hurts less.