USA STUNS SCOTLAND! My first time seeing the US win in Rugby! American Football Fan Reacts!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- The US absolutely stuns Scotland in this 2018 rugby matchup. This was my first time seeing the USA win a game (since I've only see us play NZL).
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Congrats to the U.S from New Zealand
Eligibility criteria is a widely debated topic within international rugby. Currently there are rules surrounding players representing multiple countries. If you play for one nation you must meet residency requirements and stand down periods to play for another Nation. With professional leagues in Europe which attract players from many nations, some of those international players choose to play for their adopted nations rather than the nation of their birth. NZ has many very good players that never make the ABs who take playing contracts in the lucrative European competitions and end up playing for the Nations where they apply their trade. Its fair enough as its very competitive to be selected in the All Blacks. Those players would automatically become ineligible for selection in the NZ National team. NZRU has their own condition alongside the internationally accepted criteria where they will not consider any player for selection if they have played international Rugby for any other Nation.
I'm sorry I missed this match, glad the USA won and as a south african we are eagerly awaiting the rise of the USA into the top 5 tier 1 nations. Well done
wow that is amazing to beat Scotland. well done USA. You are on your way.
EXTRA TIME
When the clock hits 80mins, the game does not stop until next stoppage of play.
So here, Scotland held possession of the ball and kept it live by doing "Pick and Run" Phases, inching closer to the Goal Line. As long as Scotland does not concede a penalty, its a mission to the try line. If USA concedes a penalty -because Scotland has the ball, they would have advantage. Scotland would've most likely went with a Scrum or back to the "Pick and Run" with a quick Tap to restart. If at anytime Scotland concedes a penalty or looses the ball out of bounds, the Game stops. If USA get possession of the ball, it is expected to kick the ball out of bounds to stop the game -otherwise, if they feeling bold or boastful, continue play for another attempt at getting a try.
The autumn internationals starts this weekend if you're wanting some live rugby
6:51 WHEN THEY BRAKE AWAY LIKE THAT ITS A MAUL
USA eagles are a good team, they should try to field a team for Super Rugby Comp featuring teams from Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina and Japan. A USA team would be a great addition to the comp and they could definitely hold their own against a lot of the teams in the comp!
Cheers from Australia!
Scotland isn't a rugby minnow like the USA. For the USA this is absolutely huge. Although Scotland have never beaten the NZ All Blacks, they have come close on a few occasions. Scotland are top tier. Well done USA. Remember Japan beat the Spring Bok's at the 2015 RWC. Nobody saw that coming.
That formation is called a maul quite fitting if you ask me
Penalty Try
It's not a 'how close' thing.
If the ref determines that, except for the penalty, a try would have been scored he may award the try. No matter how far out.
I've seen one awarded 40m out.
In making that determination the offender is 'erased'. There is no 'if he had not offended he could have prevented it legally', he is erased from the picture entirely.
the us team is actually pretty good for a 2nd tier nation and can compete with the likes of scotland or italy at the moment, which is pretty amazing for a country that doesn't give a f... for rugby.
A penalty try is awarded if the referee rules that a try would have been scored but for a penalty offence committed to prevent it. Until recently when one was awarded the conversion kick was taken from directly in front of the the posts but now seven points is awarded without having to take a conversion.
Eligibility is determined by several things.
Parents- At least one grandparent
Residence- 5 years
Citizenship
Any one will do. Playing for a nation confirms you to that nation.
I believe I've already explained penalty tries.
How close you are is meaningless. I've seen penalty tries awarded 40M out.
What it is, is if the referee determines that if not for the penalty a try would have been scored, he may award the try.
To make that determination the offending players existence is erased. He/she is not there and able to do something else (legal).
That's not a ruck. That is a maul.
A ruck is what happens after a tackle. The ball is on the ground.
A maul requires a ball carrier, a defender and a someone supporting the ball carrier. The ball is held. It's actually illegal to collapse a maul but doing so has become less likely to be penalized as going off your feet in a ruck.
To really understand what forward play is I'd suggest you watch some older rugby. Back in the day we had rucks that actually moved and mauling could be devastating. They actually had quick scrums that never collapsed back then too.
Check out the '73 match between NZ and the Barbarians in Cardiff Arms Park. It was named the Game of the Century. If you watch it you will see the try that comes if you type "That Try" in your TH-cam search bar. Here's the match
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Mauls and rucks are where all the complexity of union compared to league comes from. Most of the penalties that league fans complain about come from these areas of the game and they're quite technical and open to interpretation. Pretty hard to explain but basically when a ball carrier goes into contact if he stays on his feet its a maul and if he goes to ground its a ruck. Both are opportunities for the defence to contest for possession but in very different ways. The maul is a pretty powerful offensive weapon off a lineout because all the forwards are right there to bind and push and if its well formed its very hard to stop close to the line.
There are hundreds of Rugby nomads that have lived and played in other countries for a minimum of 5 years (I think). Lots of Kiwis in Japan and the UK, lots of Pacific Islanders in NZ, Aussie and the UK, a few South Africans in the UK too.. So they find teams in more need, who will often pay good money for talent.
Its actually the other way around with new Zealand, they are mostly kiwis born in new Zealand and go and play for Tonga somoia through there parents, grandparents. 90% of the Tonga, somoia teams are born in new Zealand 😊
@@anthonycorboy5122 is that really your best attempt at spelling Samoa
@@clutchxgene8477 what a nasty person why would that bother you.
A rugby ball is kinda like a gridiron and football (soccer) ball had babies (rugby is of course much much older than gridiron, so I should actually say that the ball used in gridiron looks like an emaciated rugby ball).
after a lineout the formation is called a maul which is different from a ruck
or a driving maul
To qualify to play for a country you must either have a grandparent or parent from that country or have lived there for (I think) 3 years... it used to be less but am sure it has been increased. Also you must not have played for another countries Adult First team or B team. If the country has no B team then that countries under 20's side counts as their B team.
eligibility rules in rugby are quite stupid as if you live in a country for 4 years you can play for them which means teams such as tonga and Samoa have their best players playing for other nations. It also sees New Zealand, South Africa, Australia players who can't make their own sides try and make it in a different country. Also if you have a parent who's born in a country or wherever you were born you can play for that side which sees players such as Hoskins Sotutu be eligible for 3 countries New Zealand the country he was born in and lived all his life, Fiji the country his Dads from and England the country his Mums from. But once you have made the decision to play for a country and have played at least one game for the country you can't play for another country. These eligibility rules result in the highest quality of international rugby but it does seem a bit weird that you can live in a different country for 4 years and be able to play for their national team without even gaining citizenship.
Hell I don't envy the kickers.. They can either win or lose the game - no pressure..!!! lol
Playing for a national team do you have to be a citizen In most circumstances but there are exceptions like you can also use this to get citizenship sometimes
7:00 The thing that's like a ruck is called a maul. It's basically a ruck but while standing up.
I think a visit to Dick's Sporting Goods is a good idea. Even if you don't buy a ball from there you will be able to hold one and get an idea of the size and the feel of the ball and then buy one cheaper online.
Its good for rugby in the US that the Eagles won but it must be mentioned that these were Scotlands 3rd joice players. That being said the history books will say "USA 30 vs Scotland 29".
Still lost to the usa plus stuart hogg was still playing
penalty try is given when an illegal is made to prevent a player from scoring. for example as shown above a high tackle prevented him from scoring. also u have to be a citizen or have residency to play for a country
Glad you enjoyed it now go forth and procreate new rugby playing girls and boys for the US cause🇺🇸
Scotland's formation from the line out was a maul (a whole set of laws around this come into play). A maul happens when it hasn't gone to ground and a player from both teams binds to the ball carrier (excluding the ball carrier). If it goes to ground before forming a maul, it is a tackle, over which a ruck can be formed (there is another set of laws around this).
And yes there are residency laws; basically you have to have not represented another country and have resided in your adopted country for 3 years (end of this year that changes to 5 years). You can also be eligible by parents and/or grandparents but you still have to have not played for another country (there is a loophole to this via playing 7s at the Olympics).
Wales vs ABs this weekend
It's called a maul when they stick together and move together after the line out
This game shows you that when the USA has their strongest team they aren't that bad (although they lost to Uraguay). In this most recent game against the All Blacks, all of the USA's players who play overseas aka their best players such as AJ Macginty, Ruben De Haas and Joe Taufete'e couldn't play as their clubs wanted them back.
It's not always about the distance from the try line, more about whether the ball carrier would have scored without the foul play interference. There needs to be cover for him to award a penalty. The formation where the bunch rumbles forward is called a maul. Tricky rules in there, but generally you have to stay bound to the maul and it has to stay on it's feet. If the defensive team pulls down the maul, it's a penalty, sometimes a penalty try too.
move there 4 years good to go
I am a conversion kicker it rugby. Its much harder than it looks 😂. You'll find that about 50% if not more of the kicks right on the touchline are missed, however highlights usually don't show these.
Hey there Tom... As a conversion kicker, do you think the height of the conversions by the US kicker are a bit too high as the ball can get caught by the wind and blown off course...? Just an observation, but they do look way too high...lol... Cheers
@@chriscaminarides623 Hi Chris, that's a really interesting question. I am wondering whether because the American football is heavier, it gets blown off less easily.
@@tomgroves1497 Hi Tom... Yes that's true they are heavier but if he's a kicker for Rugby, he should lower the height of his kick because as you know kicks can win or lose a match so he can't afford to get it wrong...lol
A rugby ball is bigger and because it inflated more than an American football 🏈 it's easier to kick (punt) further
Just a citizen
This was a Scottish B/C team, most of those players were new, young and inexperienced players or what would of been seen as a B or C team for Scotland, who at this point a few years ago weren't regarded very highly in the 6 nations or world rugby. But fair play to the US for narrowly beating a team that are better than them, I would put it down to individual members like AJ McGinty and others who play for high level clubs win England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Not to take anything away from you, but we=hen you pointed out the Scottish try in " "extra time", firstly it wasn't, it was last play, we don't have extra time in rugby, and secondly Scotland had more point scoring opportunities which they worked for and had every right to score but individuals made mistakes, so I am just pointing out that this game could of been out of grasp for the US, but luckily for you, mistakes were made and not all the Scottish opportunities were capitalised on. Well done though.
So what you are saying then is that Munster never won against the all blacks but beat a new Zealand b side.
@@anthonycorboy5122 are you talking about when Munster beat the all blacks in the 70s or when they beat the Māori all blacks?
@@anthonycorboy5122 ,NZ never play their top 15 against provinces
New Zealand
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Rugby balls are nice to kick but I think American footballs are easier to kick, they come off the boot easy and can send them into the stratosphere but they are harder to be precise with (in terms of chip kicks and place kicks) because of the shape.
Have to disagree. I've been a punter in American football and a 5/8 and fullback in league and union respectively and I find it sooo much easier than a American football and its So much easier to accidentally shank a American football.
@@tommyt4259 ,American football is smaller so easier to get distance
@@Trajan2401 if hit right maybe, Easier to be off a bit and shank hard.
While the rugby ball is was more forgiving.
@@tommyt4259 ,look how far they throw American footballs so imagine what a good kick would do I reckon rugby kickers would kick an American football from one end of the field to the other lol
Like I said, I've been a kicker in both and it's a slightly different kicking style. Probably why AFL players make the switch not rugby players.
Nice. Actually I felt good not being Scottish.
In comparison a rugby ball is way softer light and bouncier than a football ball yes. But it's way bigger. , I had the opportunity to play "flag football" (not sure about the term, it was more than 20 years ago) in lycée what i could compare to college in France, the ball felt very hard small and "rocky"....I feel like kicking a football ball can be painful if done wrong idk, never did.
I hope to see a Antoine Dupont reaction soon or later man;)