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Love you thank you
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@@drmujtabashaikh8 this bomb killed more people th-cam.com/video/TjSfZkVHJKE/w-d-xo.html
The sudden recovery is called the surge. It happens to a lot of people before death. It can last for an hour or years and is absolutely terrifying. Imagine thinking you got well when in reality it's the last of your life force burning out
If the surge is sufficiently strong, comics are made about the exposed person when they save the planet, at least according to The Simpson's.
@@carneeki "years" bruh
I've heard it referred to as the "dead man walking" or "walking dead" period. I've never heard of anyone lasting for years, though.
@@rdormer definitely lasted a while with a family member. Got incredibly ill, almost died then for a year and a half they were fine before then dying
If it lasting for years its not a walking dead, they're just recovered lmao
Basically, after the blast of radiation destroyed his chromosomes, his body didn’t have a blueprint to build new cells from and so as his old cells would die, no new cells would replace them. So… he was practically already dead at that point in time, slowly decaying. What an awful way to go.
Or worse yet, replacing it with other anomalous ones with the bad habit of replicating uncontrollably.
Dude what, please look up what the average cell life is before typing this shit out
@@sammyb7728 human cells “in” your body can live from 7 to 10 years while some like muscle are 15 and skin are 2 to 4 weeks
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The screwdriver that Slotin used was actually a common practice in criticality experiments (as far as the Toronto Science Centre was concerned) and the reason for his accident was that the spacers used on the other side weren't tungsten or berylium, but instead a tin alloy that melted, causing the top hemisphere to slip and slam shut. Slotin was reported to have ripped the halves opened by hand, and took the radiation across his stomach, suffering immediate burns, and his coffin was lined with lead, and his family ordered to never open it.
oh wow he not as stupid as we thought then
I visited an old church with a cemetery out behind in Pennsylvania. Ever since that day I often wonder why there was a sign on the fence that said "No Geiger counters or radiation equipment allowed" I'm wondering now if they buried a few radiated guys in there
@@hughjass1835 What?? They really had a sign saying no Geiger counters allowed??
🤣🤣
@@Vlad.the.Inhaler sure did, it was crazy to me, still is. Then just up the road a bit I saw something else you never see, a sign on a gate saying hunting and fishing ALLOWED. It was freaking bizarro world. I want to go back and get some questions answer but I haven't had the chance
This seems like a fairly important detail which most accounts miss out, because he usually comes across as wreck less to the point of idiocy as if he was purely relying on a screwdriver just to show off, rather than following convention and using some spacers on the other side.
One might think the idea would occur to the scientists to make the Beryllium hemisphere too short, such that it physically could NOT close the gap all the way, instead of just using the full hemispheres and telling each other, "Hey, make sure you don't ever assemble them without a gap." I mean, they obviously knew by then that no gap = catastrophe. And if you have the capability to machine a full hemisphere, you certainly have the capability to machine another quarter inch off of it.
It does seem that there wasn't a lot of subtlety of thought within this group of scientists.
It's my understanding that it was supposed to have safety guards to prevent the hemisphere from closing all the way, but they'd been removed so the scientists could push the boundaries further to get finer measurements.
Honestly! Why the absolute crap wouldn't they at least screw a slightly stiff, movable arm to the top half to hold it for them???? That seems so simple, especially taking into account the immense danger if anything went wrong, like why not think that through a bit more if that many lives are at stake. A whole group of very smart people at that. The movable arm could be then adjusted to any width you wanted, screwdriver or spacers not even needed. That's just so crazy lol
I was thinking the same thing
I found it interesting that these people considered some of the greatest in their field were seemingly very young. I got the impression that the way you became a leader in that particular field was just by being crazy enough to work on it, even for a relatively short time.
My father's first job as an engineer was at the Los Alamos Lab back in around 1952. White Sands was the testing area. He and his colleagues were rounded up to survey the epicenter of a nuclear detonation. I have no idea how 'fresh' this blast was, but every one of them died of cancer. He was one of the last of the group to succumb in 1986 with Multiple Myeloma [correction, thanks to user, abrox] (bone cancer). I have no idea if he was 'shadowed' by the government keeping tabs on his health. I doubt it. Needless to say, safety or even an understanding was not the Lab's highest priority.
Doug the blogger for Los Alamos was found of saying the smarter an asshat the more dangerous the asshat lol. Lets run a lot of computers crunching oh so very NDA numbers...with a frayed power coord neer some kind of leaky sink. what in the fuck? or sure lets create a some anti-matter to send on out to sweeden...without any protections at all.
Not too surprising. In the 1950s a movie called "The Conqueror" starring John Wayne and Susan Hayward was shot near St. George, Utah. A number of nuclear bombs were tested in the area at the time, but the Army assured all and sundry that it would be safe to film. As the years went by, at least half the cast and crew ended up dying of cancer, including both Wayne and Hayward. Yes, Wayne was a heavy smoker but the radiation exposures while filming "The Conqueror" certainly made a bad situation worse. But it wasn't just them. People were exposed in St. George as well and there is a whole roster of children who died of various cancers.
I'm truly sorry about your father. You're right--safety wasn't a priority back then. It truly was a dark time. So many lives were sacrificed to gain knowledge of radiation and what it could do.
Same with my grandfather who worked a K-25 in Oakridge, TN. He worked at the plant where they built the nuclear bombs and he died of several cancers. They really didn't take much caution when it came to these things.
@@abysswalker1042 I'm sorry to hear that. May his soul rest in peace, and I pray that he is at rest knowing that his family as well as society has learned and will question our Government and will demand for safety.
@@douglasmackallor thank you, same for your father as well.
It might have been the first experiment, but I heard that when it went supercritical, everybody nearby ran away and the scientist yelled at them to come back and mark where they were standing so they can calculate basically their odds of survival
Lmao 🤣
It was more for science, so that WHEN people died could be correlated to their distance. Ever the scientist, he knew from the heat and eye blinding that he was dead, but he insisted on getting these new data points.
Not true. That didn't happen for either accident involving that core. You can read the official accident reports from people in the rooms when it happened. You'll find the information in the book "Atomic Bombs: The Top Secret Inside Story of Little Boy and Fatman."
The Daghlian accident report is pages 372 - 376 and the Slotin accident report is pages 377 - 384.
@@buckhorncortez yes it did? People ran
@ running away isn’t gonna do anything tho
The animation at the start with the mustache dude and the anti-mustache guy with a raygun had me rolling😭🤣
Epic message through that little detail on the t-shirt
Have to admit, I do like your content. This no sugar-coating the truth is so refreshing. A bit overdue, but fully subscribed.
Snowflake free
How do you half subscribe?
He did sugar coat it by omitting Slotin's story.
I've learned that regardless of topic, thoughty2 never fails to satisfy my undying curiosity, no matter how random the content, or my curiosity
couldn't have said it better myself
Same! Been watching him for 10 years. Very proud of his stash and stache
He covers all manners of dark topics but by being a really nice gentleman
He also never fails to make me question if iv watched a video he puts out by changing the title and thumbnail. It's like a game at this point.
Whenever I see a topic I already know about, like this one, I roll my eyes, kind of like a repeat. But he seems to always do a better job telling the story, from angles other people haven't covered, and it's worth watching.
I was in Los Alamos for an internship in 2014. I used to work at LANSCE (where they have the neutron acceleration facility). I wasn't working with anything radioactive though. Anyway. There's a bridge that connects the Los Alamos national lab with the city area. Under this bridge, there's a road that goes down the canyon. I was one day hiking and decided to go down the bridge and go down that road. As soon as I passed under the bridge I saw one of those yellow radiation signs. Needless to say I turned around and went home. I asked my mentor about it. He said there was a facility down the road, called iced house. It turns out, the iced house is also the omega site, where the critical accident with the demon core happened for the first time, killing Daghlian. I'm glad I turned around. I don't think I would be able to go anywhere near it though, even if I wanted. It's probably a restricted area and most certainly fenced. My point is, anywhere you go in Los Alamos, every place blooms with history. It's crazy. I miss Los Alamos!
So why leave
@Daniels Sjagailo common sense. You see a sign indicating radiation hazard, you turn back.
@@filipezanini413 I think he asked why you left Los Alamos
@@danielstudart2062 ah, ok. I was there for 6 months only as an international student. I'll go back one day, even if it is only to visit. I love that city
@@daniels1263 sorry. I guess I misunderstood your question
Seeing their incompetence in handling radioactive materials, I half expected one of these scientists to have gotten hold of three demon cores and start juggling! The "special effects" would have been wild!
That would've been perfectly safe. I don't think you understood why the experiment was dangerous
Thank you for your gentle concern of the effects of your investigations may cause.
Remember the laboratory works we had to do when I studied physics. Before doing those in nuclear physics, where we handled the very tiniest amount of radioactive material, we got a long list of MUST NOTs and MUST DOs and I have a faint memory the we even to sign them.
One such experiment involved neutrons and we picked up a microscopic amount of a neutron radiating material in the basement, carried it at the end of the feet stick to 3rd floor and our lab room.
Our teachers often stressed that there probable weren’t any “safe levels”. And was stressed over and over again was to NEVER loose respect, be arrogant (“no one has died of a little radiation ….”) and start cutting corners.
Watching videos on aircraft accidents I often hear that security instructions are written in blood. So true.
Bingo. I've only gotten to rudimentary college level (formally) read and listend to people who were their, either litterally or in the same erra. One of my physics profs described fision as chucking hyper kids into a room full of TNT. It MIGHT be ok. or shit goes so wrong that the only thing left is some teeth.
I Where as fusion is more like a car engine that doesn't want to keep working.
Oh, that is so true, security instructions being written in blood. :/
I like to say that nothing happens until it does. But risk management is far from our nature. It's a dangerous bias humans share. You can see it with the covid vaccine and how a lot of people don't understand the concept of lowering their risk of infection by a couple percent with each measure (distancing, washing hands, testing, masks and vaccination). Non of those relieves you from doing the others imho. If your aim is to not get sick, which is what I'd like to achieve.
Oh I have to agree about safety instructions often being written in blood.
When I was younger I’d sometimes watch Aircraft Investigation episodes and yeah the aviation industry is pretty much entirely written in blood.
From some engineer taping up the places where the sensors used by the computer to detect height and speed to protect them during maintenance and forgetting to remove the tape afterwards bringing the plane crushing down because neither pilots nor computer could get accurate readings, to a tiny disc less than the size of a 50p coin used to prevent a screw in the tail section from flying off completely being accidentally removed and not put back on during maintenance, thus causing one of the flaps on the tail to lock in one position so the pilot can no longer control the plane, much of the safety systems in aviation are there literally because someone fucked up and hundreds of people died before the flaw was redesigned or safely procedures updated.
Those episodes during my formative years and the knowledge above a certain height is unsurvivable if the cabin depressurises are probably the reasons I have this unreasonable fear of flying above the clouds. I seem to be okay in a helicopter or small plane for the most part. That being said I do think that I could fly without freaking out at all by ruthlessly clamping down on the part of me that’s doing the equivalent of Star Trek’s “red alert!” Inside my head, especially if I can distract or medicate but I still really hate flying.
We use to joke about not licking it.
One thing I learned from observation is that radioactive substances are 1000X more deadly when you ingest them.
Some of the people I use to work with were slobs and many would eat on the job and over a ten year period you could see how that impacted their health.
@@scurvofpcp One of the BIG NO-NOs was to eat ANYTHING in the lab rooms.
Once again you tell me a story I've heard and did it better. You really are a master story teller and I look forward to the next one.
I liked the other one better.
Im going to guess you heard it from qwixr
I heard it first from Kyle Hill. Both did a great job in their own right.
@@tenzinsmith7991 I heard it from Simon Whistler
Plainly Difficult have a great video on it and several other nuclear accidents.
Radiation sickness would be THE worst way to go. Melting from the inside out.. nails falling off. Bleeding from the eyes and ears and mouth.. other than being tortured to death by a kidnapper, radiation sickness would be the worst way to go. It's terrifying to think about.
Even worse, there's also a story of a man (Hisashi Ouchi) who worked at the Tokaimura nuclear power plant that had it worse. He received the highest dose of radiation in human history (17 sievert), and was kept alive AGAINST his will for 83 long agonizing days. Gruesome details can be found in articles about him. I'm not going to mention them here as they're even upsetting to me and I'm usually unbothered by reading about such stuff, but if you really want to know don't come crying I didn't warn.
Nuclear radiation is such a scary subject, always love the stories you find and how you tell them!
I always though nuclear science was done through cameras via robotic hands from a controled building outside the test site. Never thought the scientists could be that stupid.
Always thought it was cool
@@vinportobg ah yes, because nuclear test through camera via robotic hands that handled nuclear stuff existed before the 1960's, pfft, yeah those scientist r sooo dumb.
Nuclear radiation is all around us, all the time. It should not scare people - they should instead be knowledgeable enough to take precautions without fear. Like how we put on sunblock to protect from radiation already. Do we go outside into the sun with shaky knees?
@@delphicdescant No because the sun's radiation is safer than something that could literally rip you to pieces on a molecular level depending on how close you are to it. its two totally different radiation levels.
you should be afraid of demon core type radiation especially if you are very close to it, telling people otherwise is like telling them that you shouldn't be afraid to poke a bear with a stick and should take precaution before doing so:, when in reality you shouldn't be doing it at all if it's not your profession.
Interestingly, a lot of what we know about radiation poisoning comes from Slotin's journals. Before leaving the lab, he took careful measurements of where each scientist was standing in ralation to the core, worked out the relative radiation dosage each would have received, and started a journal of his own decline. He continued to work with doctors even knowing he was dying, because he knew the research would be used to save others.
hats off to the brave heart
Thanks for the additional information.
I seem to recall reading about how he told no one to move because they were all probably dead anyway and they might as well get something out of this. Thankfully, only he suffered immediate issues (death).
science, painfully inching towards progress
L E G E N D
Got to learn alot, i did not think it was so simple to make radioactive core to go super critical, also got better understanding of the control rods in nuclear reactor.
Very, very well put together, Thoughty2!!
The criticality experiments didn't deal with critical mass they dealt with reflecting enough neutrons (Neutron flux) to maintain a near-critical state. Critical mass is achieved inside the nuclear device by the means of conventional explosives. When the explosives detonate they compress the core into a critical mass after which the core promptly goes critical and explodes. The difference is the experiments were designed to ease up to criticality but when the reflector was removed the neutron flux dissipated and the reaction stopped (mostly). In a critical mass nothing can stop the reaction and it happens much faster, hence the explosion. Going critical doesn't necessarily mean an explosion however a critical mass will always result in an explosion. What happens in a nuclear explosion is called going "prompt critical" and is where the entire fissile mass goes critical almost instantly. Reflecting neutrons back at a core is more akin to what happens in a nuclear reactor where the criticality is metered. A core can only go prompt critical once it reaches a critical mass and in order to reach critical mass the core must be compressed by the conventional explosives.
Thank you for saving me the time I would have spent on a similar comment. )) I can only imagine just how many comments about overcoming the coloumb barrier or the interaction of the polystyrene plasma with the Plutionium sparkplug, and lithium-6 deuteride Thoughty's future video about thermonuclear weapons will produce, but they will be an absolute pleasure to read, simply due to knowing that such audience is still present among TH-cam viewers.
Then make your own rebuttal TH-cam video! Why not? You may go critical....
@@shuruff904 nah I'm ok
@@shuruff904 Hahaha great pun. Doesn't need a rebuttal though. It's neither completely misleading nor completely false. "Everyone who touched it"? Sure that part is "a little" misleading, but it's things like that and clickbait thumbnails with people faking surprise or another strong feeling that ruined TH-cam. We're just champions and patron saints of lost causes here ;-)
i picture homer shouting NERD at you
FYI, getting blasted by a wave of radiation that strong would actually be the equivalent of deleting the main files from your dna. Since your dna can no longer multiply, you simply live until the remaining cells die off.
It’s a brutal process, where the worst it’s ever gotten is a point of a man being forced to live until the entirety of his body was degloved from the skin dying and where his organs were hanging out in patches that had rotted away. The hospital deemed it a “rare experiment” but was obviously shut down afterwards.
Edit: He wasn’t a test, his family wanted him alive so the doctors decided to also use him as a research study since he was a very rare chance.
was it a japanese hospital by the way ?
@@tribopower Ye
I remember reading about that I didn't know it got shut down that . The silverling to the whole thing is I'm glad it got shut down.
Was that the case of Mr. Ouchi from Tokaimura by any chance?
@@joannamysluk8623 Can’t remember the name. I just watched the Mr.Ballen video on it and he had pictures. It was…. upsetting
Another fascinating video, Arran! It's always a pleasure.
Love the diversity of the 1946 Los Alamos lab.
Shut up
"It's kind of terrifying to think what must have been going through Slotin's head in those frantic seconds..."
Yeah, about 20,000 REM of ionizing gamma and neutron radiation.
damn apply water to radiation burnt area :0
The opposite of the incredible Hulk franchise.
using a screwdriver was like gambling with his life
Out of all topics related to nuclear and atomic disasters, both the Elephants Foot and the Demon Core remain my favorite subjects to learn about. I don't know why, cuz both are terrifying, but they're just so interesting to me! I guess it's cuz they show a more intimate look at the colossal danger of radiation, and how easily this energy can get out of control.
both proof we may be traveling within...
....the Twilight Zone
John Cusack played Louis Slaton in the movie The Fatman And The Little Boy, though from what I remember the timeline was moved up to before first atomic bomb test. In the movie, following the accident he ordered everyone to mark where they were and leave. He then calculated how much radiation each person received based on where they were standing and concluded that he was the only one in danger. I don't know if Slotin did that in real life, but it was a great scene.
He did it in real life
One of the most horrendous cases of radiation illness/death has to be that of Hisashi Ouchi, I think. What he suffered, is truly heartbreaking. 💔
Absolutely agree. His 83 days would have been hell on earth. Literally. Bringing him back from death over and over was the worst thing they could have done. I believe it was 5 times. They were trying to learn but it was an awful thing to do though. The pain had to be extraordinary. Poor man.
Family should have sued
Literally the closest thing we had to some kind of eldritch horror. It seems like just a ball of metal, but how many things on earth can kill you simply by existing in the same room as it for too long.
Rocks do indeed have auras. Unfortunately those auras rip your cells apart at the seams
Like living with a contemptuous wife?
@@Heart2HeartBooks Nope, not at all. Dumb joke
@@blue1584 bro chill out its just a jokeeee
@@lasergamer-xj4um Yeah, a dumb and unoriginal one lol
It's just crazy that they didn't just design spacers or a vent of sorts into the beryllium sphere after knowing what happens if the two sides meet.
Why do all that when you can just use a screwdriver? Not like people’s hands slip or anything
They did have spacers. He just decided not to use them and use a screwdriver instead.
@@Dethmeister Right but my point was why didn't they think to build spacers right into the sphere so that some dumbass didn't have the option of using a screwdriver? lol
@@EdgarAllanPoon i was thinking that same thing, make spacers a part of the sphere, so that you dont have the option of doing anything wild
Exactly my thought.
I love the way you talk. It makes your narration interesting.
Think I'll make a coffee.
Earlier I forgot to close the lid before boiling the kettle. It kept bubbling and bubbling, until I rushed in to shut the lid.
The steam warmed my hand.
It was very tense.
So I can definitely relate to that fateful day at Los Alamos.
Slotin's internal radiation burns were described as being like "three-dimensional sunburn". He really did die an unimaginably horrible painful death.
Nothing worse than my boi Hishashi Ouchi.
Anatoli Bugorski - put his head in a particle accelerator, his death was horrific!
@@m-bronte Gentleman actually survived believe it or not.
Unimaginably large dose but in a straight line. The amount of harm a given dosage is said to cause is calculated off of a whole body dose, like getting bathed in light from a flashlight. This was more like being hit by a laser and so full-body dose was minimal even though you'd expect horrific things to happen based on the number.
"he left half of Bugorski's face swelled up beyond recognition and, over the next several days, the skin started to peel, revealing the path that the proton beam had burned through parts of his face, his bone, and the brain tissue underneath.[4] As it was believed that he had received far in excess of a fatal dose of radiation, Bugorski was taken to a clinic in Moscow where the doctors could observe his expected demise. However, Bugorski survived" -wiki page on Bugorski
Radiation is weird.
@@angryzergling7832 This is the guy who stuck his head into the particle accelerator, for those who don't recognize this narritive.
@@BKD70 Yep. Someone had commented on that and that was what I was responding to. Not sure why the comment was deleted.
As soon as he said “old habits die hard” I immediately liked this video, quality knowledge and goofy jokes… well done mister, love the channel 👍🏼
new around, uh? =D
Very well presented, spellbinding. Thank you.
Absolutely fascinating! Thank you!
"If you flew over that smoke I promise you tomorrow you'll be begging for that bullet" a quote by Valery Legasov in the series Chernobyl. I wonder if the victims of the demon core thought of the same thing.
when the British carried out their first atomic tests on the Australian mainland ( Totem 1 and Totem 2 ), at a place called Emu Field, which was before Maralinga, they also carried out experiments as a part of their tests. one of them was to ask for a pilot to fly a Canberra bomber straight the middle of the mushroom cloud after it had formed, and collect samples in wingtip canisters. surprisingly they had plenty of volunteers. the pilot who finally did it actually made 2 passes through the cloud, before flying off to a location to unload the samples and for him and the plane to be checked out.
@@catey62 any side effects by the pilot? was he fine afterwards? I think the radiation levels on a mushroom cloud is much "cleaner" than the radioactive carbon-filled smoke that was coming out of chernobyl reactor
@@jeromegaces6184 I dont know, as that wasnt mentioned in the book I read. I hope we was OK, I know I wouldnt be putting my hand up to do that. but, back then we didnt know half of what we do today about radiation/radioactivity and its effects on the human body, especially long term, as they were still learning and experimenting.
Slotin saved his colleagues and recorded invaluable data by immediately noting who stood where, and how far they were from the reaction. That, plus his quick reaction, was absolutely heroic, and goes to demonstrate absolute calm in tragedy.
report says diffrent
**(OR)** : He CouLd Have Just ······· "STUCK-WITH THE INITIAL °SAFETY- MEASURES" ! 😜💭💡 €¥£ ^
Dude was a reckless idiot, NOT a hero
They were playing with a NUCLEAR WEAPON. It's just poetic justice. And nothing heroic.
Are you freaking kidding me heroic? These people are evil! shouldn’t even be fooling with this type of materials it is pure devil stuff! These people not care about humanity Or life itself. Literally playing God
I served with a fellow RN seaman in a Portsmouth shore base. He was permanently shore based because he needed a full body transfusion every two weeks. He had leukaemia. He had spent 18 months at Christmas Island in the Pacific. It was here that Britain developed its own nuclear deterrent. Very little was known about nuclear radiation’s effects on the human body in those days. The poor guy was a walking ghost and I felt that he was being hidden away so that no questions would be asked. This is true. He had come to the notice of one of the major newspapers and they had tried to contact him for an interview. He was threatened by the authorities and told that his income and support would stop if they managed to contact him. I was drafted away shortly after and I often think about him. I don’t think he survived very long after.
My Dad recently sold the family piano, one that floated around Los Alamos and is rumored to have had Enrico Fermi often play on it in his off time while Oppenheimer leaned up against it having drinks. As a kid, I never ran across any unused and disposed of explosives in the canyons, but my friends and I would play down there all the time. We glow in the dark.
The last two sentences confuse me
@@JatPhenshllemits a troll
Important note: a nuclear reactor is actually at Critical Mass whenever it is _on._ Runaway disasters like Chernobyl happen at much further stages down the line.
FYI
Important note
Fun fact
Just so you know
I heard that
My family member worked
Etc etc etc
"... at much further stages down the line" like about 1.5 seconds down the line?
@@monsterinhead214
.06 miliseconds
@@monsterinhead214 Like about one thousand braindead bureucrats, one entire corrupted political system, one reactor model designed to make plutonium for weapons at the cheapest possible cost, one way too reckless experiment, one delay of the experiment, one unexperienced plant crew, several hours of operating at low power and accumulating reaction poison, one defective SCRAM system and one positive vacuum coeficient down the line.
Also: "critical" only means that the reactor is _on,_ and "supercritical" means that the reaction is increasing-usually because it has just been turned on and has not yet reached nominal power. Neither term indicates anything unusual or dangerous.
@@monsterinhead214 depends on the rate of increase of reactivity.
It's so terrifying how relaxed we treated safety measures around radiation in the early days. It's equally terrifying that high doses literally rip apart your DNA so after a bit of time, your bone marrow cannot successfully copy your DNA since it's now broken up.. you slowly have body parts sluff apart, until you eventually can't even get a I.V. drip to maintain in a vein to help alleviate any pain or effects of the radiation sickness.. only most severe concentrated doses can effect the human body in such horrific ways... I really wish they thought out greater levels of safety measures around this type of science as they were beginning to learn about it's powers and effects if aimed in the wrong direction.. in the right direction it's the most helpful stuff we've so far discovered, but we must treat it with respect, thankfully science and technology has advanced so far sense those early sorta radioactive prehistoric era days.. for the sake of our climate I hope we heal our wounds from this era and transcend into a new age of resurgence of nuclear power to help us combat carbon emissions, green house gases and climate change and instead transition to a new age of much more advanced, safer, nuclear Energy. It's something we definitely should include in our life's. Its just very tough we had to go through such a harsh learning phase that also sadly synced up with war time but nuclear power can exist solely on its own for only a positive impact on our energy grid and advanced source of energy transmission. Especially in this modern day of advanced technology and understanding of the hazards and how to approach them so we are most unlikely to encounter those hazards. I strongly believe in the future of nuclear energy and it saving us from climate change.
So could you imagine our scientist getting hold of a alien space ship ? Im shur it doesnt end well for some.
Sadly, people suck
It’s even more terrifying how we are so cavalier with Lithium Ion batteries which kill in five years more then all the nuclear power and weapon systems have ever killed.
@@john-paulsilke893 Don't worry about those bateries killing people, its worth it for the rapid progress, isn't it?, you said it.
Meanwhile in a CERN lab:
th-cam.com/video/6E2UFAy_FxQ/w-d-xo.htmlm
They literally sought out to make black holes
I can think of a long list of worst acts of violence in human history
Thanks for the excellent information!
I worked at a retirement home and I had the privilege of meeting a resident who lived there that was the safety director brought on after the demon core killed the person who touched it with a screwdriver. As an aspiring theoretical physicist, it was amazing to talk to him about his experience at los alamos
I'm interested! I'm interested! What did he say?!?!
and what his experience at las santos was like?
@@sermerlin1 Did you mean Los Alamos?
@@Milesco ahahahahahj damn GTA. Yes Los Alamos.
@@sermerlin1 😁
The 1955 classic film-noir movie, "Kiss me Deadly", had people killing for a mysterious briefcase. It is finally revealed that what was inside was the demon core. In the end, the suitcase is opened and a blinding light comes out that incinerates the person and burns down the house. "Pulp Fiction" had its version of the briefcase but Tarantino never bothered to say what it was.
Nice, I always wanted to know what was inside. "poetically" of course
did you notice the back of marsellus’s neck? He had a band-aid on it. One can assume, since he wanted the case so bad it was marsellus’s soul. In the restauarant robbery thing tim roth’s character asked is that what I think it is, it’s beautiful. So I’ve been told and pieced together. Who knows. Makes sense though.
"Tarantino never bothered to say what it was" is a weird way of saying "Tarantino, while writing a cinematic masterpiece, chose to not reveal the contents of the briefcase."
See 'Repo Man' and 'Blood,Bullets and Octane'.
Raiders of the lost ark did it best though.
THANK GOD THERE'S A FAST FORWARD WHEN THESE ADS COME ON.
I love this fellows presentation and delivery.
I think you made a pretty serious misstep on the murder level of the a-bombs being the worst.
The rape of Nanking was insane, Pol Pots ethic cleanse, the Burmese civil war and the final solution all come to mind.
Granted the nukes were more spectacular but I think that the intent behind the above events and the end body counts make the bombs dropped look tiny.
That said the demon core and the story behind it is quite incredible and extremely interesting 🙂
Yeah Nanking was far worse.
you missed stalins forced starvation of millions of ukrainians. millions died. then russians occupied this land in eastern ukraine. and they have been a festering problem ever since.
Sure... one can cite a number of events in which humans killed far more other humans than the A-bombs did, BUT... we're talking about events whose primary damage was done in seconds. On a first pass, I think I'd rather have taken my chances in Nanking, Ukraine, Cambodia, or Poland, than hope to survive within the blast radius that enveloped either Japanese city.
@@RB-eb9mr also the fire bombing of Tokyo and Dresden.
Did you see Mark Felton's video about the third bomb and how Japan almost did not surrender after Nagasaki? th-cam.com/video/I34pxr23Nhw/w-d-xo.html
_"Well, that does it."_
You have to love and admire that kind of intellectual honesty to come to terms with your demise in the moment.
Most dangerous object ever created
Me: farts into a balloon and leaves it in the staff room
THEY AINT SEEN NOTHING YET
Im from pecos valley new mexico my parents, my neighbors all suffered fallout, but no studied it or even cared. We had high cancer rates, but it was never studied
Thank you for consistently uploading top-tier high quality and interesting content!
@se19💖👉 shut up
@@davidwalker8778 thank you
When a few people die it’s a tragedy but when thousands die it’s a statistic
We truly live in a society
Such irony ! You could argue the scientists deserved it; building a horrific bomb for the third time.
“a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic” - Joseph Stalin. Is the proper quote
@@cornevisser6123 thanks. I couldn’t remember where i heard it
@@omninex i’m 14 and this is deep
This incident is shown in the movie Fat man and Little Boy.
Also.. just a side note.. While the death toll from the two A Bombs is horrific..
Far more lives were saved by there use.
An invasion of Japan was estimated to cost 1 Million American lives.. and based on the numbers from other battles in the pacific.. at least 2-3 times that many Japanese.
Also.. more than a million were killed in Tokyo using conventional incendiary bombs.
As an aside; the Japanese/American artist Masami Teraoka was a young boy living several miles outside Hiroshima. He was walking to school on the morning the bomb exploded and has said it looked like the sun was rising in two opposite directions.
Like the Cctv footage of a Meteor flying across Russia
Enrico Fermi, who was dismayed to see Slotin get rid of the shims between the beryllium spheres, and use a screwdriver instead, had warned him that he'd be dead within a year if he kept doing that experiment that way he did. Slotin kept doing it anyway, and Fermi's warning proved literally prophetic.
he preferred russian roulette
I knew the story of the demon core (most physicists do) but you told it very well.
Good idea to leave out Slotin's death--those 9 days were horrific. ✌️
I'll let MrBallen cover that particular part of the story ;)
@@RonBest damn....i guess my boy mcballen really is getting popular....(I keep seeing his name mentioned, I've been subbed to him since he only had like 20,000 subs, now he's blowing up)
I know its hideous, but, as our countries posses nuclear weapons, we should know what happens when they are used, and how we may die.
Guess I'll have to do my own research to find out what happened to him
The story was in a movie also.
I was well aware of these stories, but you presented them very well. Thank you.
Try to remember that Japan could have just surrendered on August 5th, 1945
I got to meet the last surviving scientist on the Manhattan Project. He was a truly remarkable person. Rip, Mr. Bert Tolbert.
I'm sure in 1985 plutonium is available in every corner drugstore. But in 1955 it's a little hard to come by!
Dr.Brown
Is this from that show Doc and Marty?
Great Scott!
That's heavy
@@frawgi3 There's that word again "heavy". Why are things so heavy in the future, is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?
My father worked at a nuclear plant when he was in his 20s. He had his hand in an incubator working when he saw a white flash! My father was horrified along with his coworkers. Then he realized it was a journalist from our local newspaper, and punched him right in the face!! A white flash isn't what you want to see in a nuclear plant!! The journalist felt bad and brought my dad the picture he took of him that day. I still have it to this day. men didn't last long doing whatever he did before getting "Burned out" then they put him at a desk job. He hated it and became a coalminer. Definitely scary stuff!!
My dad was there at Bikini Atoll when this thing went off . If I remember right he was ether 17 or 27 miles out . I think he said 27 miles . He was on the bridge . He was the signal man for the day . He told me that he could feel the heat from where he was at . He is still alive at 94 . I always remember him blinking all the time . About 4 years ago the VA discovered a chip of paint inbreeded into his eye . The paint chip turned out to be radio active . It just amazed me even at that distance of 27 miles a vary small chip could travel that fare and impale it self into the eyeball . But it did . I have not seen my dad ever sense I left home at the age of 13 . He was a drunk a whore monger and was mean . He hated me the worst from the other of my siblings . I still carry the scars that he put on me . I know this is not about me or my dad but about how much energy this puts out .
i love how it slowly went into u trauma dumping 😭
I’m so sorry you had to go through that
Hope you got over it
@@alybot2.059 go through what? he said his dad liked whores (so he was probably single and that's what whores are for) and that he was mean. big fucking deal. most dads are mean. we don't live in a perfect world and there are reason people become mean. grow up and talk to your dad before he dies. dad was probably disappointed his son never learned English while he went through engineering school just to get cancer from his lame government.
Demon Core sounds like an RPG item that constantly drains HP in exchange for power or something like that.
Not far off
I thought it was an early-2000s Drum-and-bass variant.
I have heard a lot about The Demon Core but as always it's good to hear your take on it.
Kyle Hill has a really good video on the demon core. I believe it's an essay he wrote years ago.
Earlier in WWII, there was also the fire bombing of Tokyo, claiming 120,000 lives in one night, yet the War Council, and Emperor of Japan were still embodied to fight on. So, we needed something drastic to convince the War Council and Emperor that we would fight until we bombed their land into the ocean. At that time, the Atom Bombs were needed, no matter what you think of them now.
So, I've been reading through the comments..
It seems quite a number of us had fathers/ family members who in the 50', 60's
worked at White Sands Proving Grounds, and subsequently died of work-related cancers.
That includes my own dad. I accept this with sadness and grace. I dont hate the government
nor hold animosity, things were different way back then. The work he did then enabled him to
pursue his other goals and he eventually worked for Convair, JPL, NASA, TRW and on numerous
deep space missions. He loved his work. Undoubtedly it eventually shortened his life, and thats
a high price to pay. I firmly believe equally, if not then more honorably, than any soldier with a rifle, the ultimate price.
coinsedentially, cancer runs in the family. It has killed my mother and brother too.
Remember this: we are on this earth to live our best life, and its not a long life. Make the best of what
you've got. Be good. Love and respect all living things upon this earth, including the ground you walk upon.
Recognise how precious it is to be alive. When in doubt, refer to "Deserata"...walk placidly amongst the noise and haste......
[for]........................ with all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy."
My Grandmother was in Nagasaki when Fatman was dropped. She is 93 and suffered no noticeable damage. A friend of hers was about a mile away from where my Grandmother was and was infertile and suffered multiple forms of cancer before dying in her 60's.
My Grandmother was of a poorer class and her diet was loaded with iodine from Fish and seaweed, which may have helped.
I need to start eating seaweed, im now poor! Its still new to me, any good recipes?
@@riflescientist1744 The war is well over bud. You can calm down now. Japan paid reparations until 1977, and they weren't able to have a military again until 2015. We still maintain a strong military presence in japan and they are now one of our greatest supporters. Where would we be if we just murdered entire countries including the civilians? It's against the Geneva Conventions because it's extremely immoral, the civilians did not choose for Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Their military made the decision. If our government would have "wiped out" Imperial Japan we'd be just as wrong as they were when they attacked Pearl Harbor.
@@riflescientist1744JFC, man, calm down. You understand you advocated genocide…!!! Not to recount the entire war, but I think it’s fair to say Japan was more than adequately punished for their war actions in the end. Up to 800k Japanese civilians were killed during the war; nearly all by US fire bombing and the 2 nuclear attacks. To say nothing of the over 2 million military deaths (and we know most of these are just young boys of 18-21).
My father served in the Navy in mid/late WW2 and was training for Operation Downfall, the invasion of mainland Japan. The causality estimates was over 500k American deaths by the end of the operation, and thankfully Japan’s surrender avoided that.
Yet, my father never harbored long term hate against the Japanese, understanding it was the decision of only a small handful of mistaken Japanese military leaders that resulted in the war.
Japan reformed dramatically and has gone onto important contributions and is a peaceful, respected member of the international community and an ever increasingly important ally of the United States, in the face of communist Chinese ascension.
Plus, the have many incredible musicians. Do you like rock music? Have you checked out BAND-MAID? Remarkable!!! 😎
Time heals all wounds and it’s been over more than 75 years ago. You should let go of your hate - it only harms yourself.
Well said my man people need to do there research before chanting shit and the government has a lot to answer for as we all know
War is a racket FTG mon the people
Fission of 1kg of uranium = burning 4,000,000,000kg of coal … I had to let that one sink in for a minute. Me thinks we long ago should have put ALL our scientific effort into becoming Master Ticklers of that goddamn dragon’s tail. No??
And btw, you and Kyle Hill nailed this issue on your channels. Congratulations for this awesome documentary!
Bloody fascinating! Thank you.
One would have thought that small feet would have been added to the beryllium lid to automatically create a space, thereby eliminating clumsy spacers or screwdrivers.
He knew what he was doing. He was making rapid progress with his experiments and understood the risks. He was using the screw driver like a volume knob and making rapid micro adjustments to make daily discoveries. Other scientists took months or years to accomplish the same tasks. He was absolutely not a fool or idiot although it’s often implied. He was like a soldier who charged a machine gun nest to save his fellow soldiers who were pinned down. We call those guys heroes. (Still, it’s a shame he didn’t have at least a couple of toothpicks there as a safety margin).
@@john-paulsilke893 He could still use a screw driver or something else to change the gap size but small feet to maintain a minimum safe gap would have reduced the risk of completely closing it accidentally.
@@GeographRick wow bro you're so smart, I wonder why Slotin never thought of that? must not have been as smart as you
@@null_wizard Not smart enough to survive his own stupidity.
Hi, I'm familiar with these stories from books about the Manhattan Project. Yet just as you noted, it was the horror of how they must have felt upon realising that they would be dead soon, but for a small seemingly insignificant movement of their hands. The first fellow was also noted for his foolhardiness in particular. At one stage a problem happened inside a nuclear pile, and he stripped off his clothes and dived into the cooling water and repaired the fault.
Pretty sure Slottin did that
@@mc.2737 Sounds familiar, but it was the same guy who bungled the demon core. Some things you cannot be sloppy or clumsy with. Being fully at ease with deadly things is a fool's errand every time.
@@stevenhoman2253 it is the same guy, but in the video he's the second story discussed, not the first one
What a crazy mfr
9:05 amazing instruments could detect all that. Incredible that even with all those reflective bricks enough radiation still escaped to kill them. WOW. Such a quick short small amount so deadly
When I studied this in high school, my teacher got mad at me because in the middle of class, I closed my book, got up out of my chair and at walked out of class.
She said, “Just where do you think you’re going, young man?”
I replied, “I’m going fission.”
Your feeble attempt at comedy has been duly noted and recorded! 😂
@@darthvicious9447 Thats not comedy; that’s actually a true story. I really did do that. But I had a cool teacher. That was back in 1979 and I’m still friends with her on Facebook.
I was in a computer programming course in college with the grandson of one of the guys who was part of the Manhattan project. This kid was as poor at programming as I was, and he said that his grandfather helped him on some of his math papers, but he was told to leave his math paper on the table and leave the room. When he came back, his grandfather would have filled in the answers. I thought to myself that this really intelligent old guy must lament that his grandson couldn't do even a shadow of the math he had to do at the same age. I always wondered what happened to that kid, because sure as heck neither of us could program in Basic.
Wow what an interesting and funny story
Is there any way to ask you about full incident
He went on to become a high school math teacher.
@@dontrend5956 I shouldn't be laughing at that, but it's sadly true.
And then he died 😲
Have you done a video on the guy who was shot through the head with aparticle accelerator?
Dude got an insane dose of radiation and somehow is still alive but he was also screwed hard as a radiation survivor that wasn't in a nuclear accident making his treatment difficult.
Yea, I read it. The side if the guys face was paralyzed. So when he aged, HALF his face aged, while the other half stayed the same since the day it happened to him.
One half if his face was an old man, the other half of his face still looked like he was in his 20s. Very wicked stuff.
Apparently it already fired the particle, and so he opened the side of the pipe to fix something. The particle came around the corner, and got him in the back of the head. He said all he saw was a bright flash and he was out.
He hasn’t done a video on it i don’t think but other people have
It matters more where you got the dose then what the number of msv you get. Strangely the head isn’t as big a deal as the chest.
I just watched a video by Kyle Hill about the Demon Core and he stated that after talking with a scientist at Chernobyl about it, he got the impression that the Demon Core might still be out there somewhere. He could easily have been joking, but it's still an interesting thought that such a thing wasn't actually melted down.
The history of the Demon core indicates it was subsequently melted down. After the two criticality excursions it was deemed to no longer be useable as a bomb core.
You really come up with the best videos I see here
Sloutin was mindful enough to yell at everyone to stand still as he marked on the floor where they stood with chalk, so as to help in determining their absorption.
Not true. That didn't happen for either accident involving that core. You can read the official accident reports from people in the rooms when it happened. You'll find the information in the book "Atomic Bombs: The Top Secret Inside Story of Little Boy and Fatman."
The Daghlian accident report is pages 372 - 376 and the Slotin accident report is pages 377 - 384. Page 379, "A few seconds after the accident only Slotin, myself, and Graves were in the room. Perlman had run up the corridor a few steps and was waiting, the other four had gone out the east door or up the corridor. The rest of us left immediately, going up the corridor."
Your's is some of the best most polished and professional content on this platform.
This was an incredible story, the delivery was perfect, as usual :)
I hope you're well Thoughty.
Qxir has a great episode out on this with all the cursing an Irishman has to offer. He's our Gaelic you tuber 😂
Correction: he said, around 16;00, that no one aside from Louis Slotin got radiation sickness. The guy 2nd closest to the Demon Core got a high but not lethal dose of radiation; he certainly got radiation sickness but survived.
The fire bombings of Japan in ww2 killed so many more per go than the atomic bombs
Yea they knew Japan housing was mostly wood..they Purposely used Napalm bombs and Incendiary to Max the Damage...
not sure of the difference, but the phosphorous bombs dropped in civilian areas in Germany during WW2 are also said to have caused massive fires.
War is hell. Be careful before you start one.
On a human-to-human level, I am always amazed by how many idiots pick fights without considering what countermoves (consequences) their opponent might have. They always seem so SHOCKED when they get struck in return in one way or another.
Some have said part of the reason the USA/allies wanted Japan subdued was because of central banking (money, greed).
Yeah, the fire bombings were technically deadlier, but it was an ongoing burn process... Even that Japan was SO susceptible to fire and the chaos from such bombings and raids... The emperor wouldn't back down for even a treaty. He and his advisors were still sure they had a chance.
The nuclear bombs were instantly a magnitude above ANYTHING Japan or anyone else had even seen before, let alone what they could face or handle... AND with the second strike on Nagasaki, it was absolutely confirmed that the U.S. hand't just enjoyed "a huge freak accident of luck"... It was NO fluke.
That's why Japan finally surrendered. Up until that point, they'd have strung it out to the very last syllable of breath in the very last dying woman or child...
In that era, the Japanese regarded any kind of surrender as less than human. That included being taken alive as a prisoner. It's why they treated their POW's so horribly. They were less than human, and thus, deserved everything they got... From Cannibalism to Torture and Experimentation even beyond what the Nazi's had considered "reasonable"...
Yeah, war sucks... AND in our current day and age with nuclear war so easily and readily at hand throughout so much of the world, war MUST be considered "Enemy #1"... BUT before you go passing judgment on the past, it's important to reach toward understanding just how different people thought and acted... and why they subscribed to such propaganda back in the day...
Some little nasty corners of the world, even today, there are people that aren't so different. We MUST be more cautious and careful about how we dehumanize or label and lay blame on different cultures, lest we simply and mindlessly pave our OWN roads to Hell, itself, in our best and most sincere intentions. ;o)
People are saying great video and never disappoints and the video just came out like 1 minutes ago LMAO
Fr uploaded 11 minutes ago and it's 17 minutes long 🤔
this bomb killed more people th-cam.com/video/TjSfZkVHJKE/w-d-xo.html
Gotta love the bots and like farmers
They have belief lol
Wish I could laugh react this
A slight correction - Both Alvin Graves and Dwight Young who were present alongside Slotin, experienced ARS.
When I was a kid I went on a school field trip to a museum. They had 3 panels from a concrete wall that appeared to show the shadows of 2 kids and a man walking. The tour guide explained that the shadows were from people hit by radiation from the nuclear blast and they absorbed the radiation before it hit the wall. As a kid with no concept of death yet it was as fascinating as the dinosaur skeletons we had passed earlier in the tour. But looking back on it as an adult that is well versed in the battles of WWII, it’s frightening to think that I can be disintegrated in the blink of an eye while simply crossing the street. Even Darth Vader isn’t a fan of disintegrations, so it’s definitely a bad way to go.
I would rather go fast "in the blink of an eye" than have it drag our over years.
A bad way to go? This is what you take from this ?
If you got to going in a blink is preferential to years of suffering as some of my friends had to endure with cancer..
Man’s inhumanity to man Emphise MAN JUDAS 3 letters prevails in his name 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
@@missyounorm33
Seems you were sleeping when USA ,Australia New Zealand poured millions of gallons of petrol on woman and children to burning them to death then sprayed them e with chemicals Causing the new born to be inflicted With terrible deformities How many Jewish children Born today suffered this
Affliction due tipi he HOLOCAUST The Europeans Happy to turn a blind eye scream RUSSIA EVIL
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HE OR SHE WHO SOWS THE SEEDS OF MURDER AND HATE SHALL NEVER REAP THE EXPERIENCE OF
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oh, so thats why sponge bob's friends seems funny 11:13
Yeah, surprisingly, those islands are the first thing to use the name "bikini"
14:28 Probably radiation
"It'll never happen to me." That's exactly the explanation of those events. I don't know whether it's best called stupidity or arrogance or both, but there are a lot of people walking around in every generation that feel exactly that same way. For most of us we just get a nasty cut or something like that that will heal, but evidently the stakes getting higher doesn't defuse the attitude.
My mother had a high school friend who was in Nagasaki the day of the bombing. She had skin burns, developed radiation sickness and died in a couple months.
I've heard this story before, but Thoughty2 has a gift for telling stories.
Thousands of deaths is a stastic less than 10 is a tragedy. The duality of human kindness.
Just a quick add-on, radiation can also change the properties of cytoplasm in cells and cause them to die outright regardless of any changes to the DNA. Damaging DNA effects cell reproduction either preventing it or making it abnormal. Damaging the cell itself obviously kills it and your body can only survive with so many dead cells before things start going South for each affected organ and system. The damage of actually destroying a cell or turning off its functionality is what causes death in acute radiation sickness. Chronic radiation sickness almost always involves altering DNA which results in tumors and cancerous cell formation with a high probability of occurrence based off the dose received
here before he changes the title, the first title is: "How This Bomb Killed People Without Exploding"
"Urgency allows for certain corners to be cut..." A very dangerous truth. Very easy to follow proper procedures when there is no urgency, very difficult when there is sufficient urgency.
Remember that time when you remembered something you forgot to forget when suddenly you recalled that you forgot to remember it?
rly good vid dude im in for more, subscribed ;)