Finland's education success
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- When it comes to international results, Finland's schools score consistently at the top.
However, pupils study the fewest number of class hours in the developed world.
The BBC travels to Helsinki to find out the secret of the Finns' education success.
every freaking country in this world needs this system
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"This is my school, not some politician school" WHAT? HOLY I WANT THIS KIND OF SYSTEM IN MY COUNTRY!!!
Well, in biology in 9th grade we focus mainly on human biology. We study human anatomy, physiology. We learn about pregnancy, sexually transmitted deceases, safe sex. It's such a long list that I don't have the patience to tell you everything in detail. :)
I get the idea. Good for you. Bravo.
why isn't america funding this education system, that has proven itself effective.
Theelamental hi from the future due to teaching unions.
Has nothing to do with teachers unions. Finland treats teachers with great respect. The teachers are given the FREEDOM to actually teach according to the needs of the child. In the US, there is virtually no respect for teachers. They are often the scapegoats of society's problems. In addition, private schools are outlawed in Finland. This forces the rich children to attend school with their poorer peers. They grow up together, become friends. Schools are funded on the principles of equity and equality. In the US, schools are funded by property taxes. This is precisely why the poorest neighborhoods have the worst schools. Imagine if we outlawed private schools. You can bet your sweet ass the rich parents would demand better resources in education. In Finland, there are no standardized tests. In America, because we place so much emphasis on test scores, teachers are forced to teach to the test. They are dictated what to teach, when to teach, and how to teach.
Next, let's look at teacher training. In America, the standards are very low. Need a BA to teach, and the majority of that time is spent on theory, NOT practice. Just about anyone gets accepted into an education program. But in Finland, getting into an education program is extremely difficult. Think of it like trying to get into Harvard. Finland has built in what they call "practice schools," where students are paired with specially trained veteran teachers for two years. They practice teaching real students with constant feedback. Student teachers work together on developing lesson plans, teaching the kids, ECT. But in America, it is about competition, not collaboration. They get one semester of internship, unpaid. Yet, somehow we expect them to pay tuition on top of bills, quit their full time jobs to work for free.
In Finland, teachers and other education professionals have real say in education policy. In America, we have people with zero experience in public schools dictating curriculum, standards, policies with no input from teachers.
A lot can be said about curriculum as well. We pile so many standards, so many requirements with no time to actually teach them, let alone the time to learn them. In a typical 9th grade English class, there are over 300 standards but only 180 days of school. Is it any wonder why our kids graduate high school and still can't write a single sentence? In addition, we expect kids to sit quietly for seven hours a day with almost no breaks. Their brains turn off. Finland's curriculum is based on DEPTH, not breadth. They have much fewer standards but what is taught is learned in depth.
For instance, in elementary school, we expect children to learn algebraic concepts BEFORE students fully learn basic arithmetic. We expect them to perform long division without truly learning the multiplication tables. And we wonder why our kids suck at math.
America places little to no value in language learning whereas in Finland, they emphasize it, so children graduate fluent in three or four languages.
So criticizing teachers unions is rather short sighted. Teachers unions fight for better education, better resources, better treatment of teachers.
A lot needs to change in America, and honestly it begins with our culture and society as a whole. If our leaders don't respect teachers, how can we expect anyone else to.
Can you imagine asking 50 states to be synchronized on education? They can hardly agree with each other on so many aspects of life let alone education. The US spend very little on early education & would rather parents paid for it instead of using tax dollars to do it.
TRUST ? I'm crying..
The only reason that I'm being quite in most of the classes is because I don't trust teachers and I don't agree with our school system.. I just hate when they tell us that we MUST do this and do that... we HAVE TO do what they tell us, We have to learn what they teach us.. not what they want to learn, we have to get a job that our parents want not the one that our hearts want..
They don't let us to learn what we want to learn
They don't let us to do what we want to do
They don't let us to dress how we want to dress
They don't let us to choose what we really LOVE
They don't us us to live like a HUMAN
They don't let us to live how we want to live..
They just use us like a ROBOT
School is just like a HELL for most of the students~
Especially those who have a lower class
The only students they see are The A students, and the others are nothing more than a loser in their eyes..
Most of the students kill theirself every year.. and they ask why? Are you really blind ? Can't you see what we are suffering from?..
Why doesn't every country have this ? -_-
I don't know...I am Italian. :3
+PaNḎa Ḡod thats fucked up xD, you'd get your ass beat if you say that away from the keyboard
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nah i doubt it, theres only retards, dumbass, people with common sense, and those that contributes or follows in this world, the rest is all bull shit under that color, cus quite frankly you hate your own race more than others
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oh i said, blow that torch back up your ass bitch! lol
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it wont do you no good, i will simply just eat you, problem solve
They don't mention here that Finnish teachers make 89 percent of the salary of their upper quartile Finnish peers. In the United States teachers make less than 60% of their upper quartile American peers. (Do not know what it is for the United Kingdom). The narrow salary discrepancy in Finland makes an enormous difference for recruitment of top university students.
Arthur E. Michalak There are other issues like autonomy of schools, smaller sizes, common standards, and so on. But salary often is the biggest difference, yes.
Citation needed
And, teachers in Finland must have a Masters....
If you want to know about British education, the dog whistle of “unlike other European nations, Finland has little immigration” is a glimpse into the kind of indoctrination much of our population has been brought up on. 😂🤦🏽♂️
Also, the teachers have the freedom. This is helpful in so many ways!
LOL, it looks like all school systems are failing except in Finland.
Many countries around the globe have adopted the U.S.. or British school systems that driven by competition. Such educations systems do nothing but wasting children's precious time that are so important for learning and be creative. Kudos to Finland.
I love this! I believe this is so eye opening to the American education system. It's not about the money or time, but about the drive to do well not by placing them as winners or losers but AS STUDENTS! Way to go Finland! You keep rockin' it, maybe one day America will catch on.
Hillary Clinton went to Finland 20 years ago as she had heard of the marvelous Finnish system & wanted to learn from it. So American politicians are aware but they do not want to spend money on proper education, they want the parents to spend their hard on money on it instead.
I love this. Can every school be like this? :)
chris chung LOL, "honorable titles"? You do realize that Finns hardly ever use any kind of titles, even at work when talking to the boss? Only in the military and when talking to the president, or ministers and such.
Congratulations, Finland. Your education system is just what I desire for Spain
i love you Finland
Theres a lot of homework in Indonesia and with a killer teachers..
Finlan education I think very homies, it seems like the teacher never get mad of student who not understand, coz they know, they have makes the student understand. And teach very patient and slowly..
If Indonesia use that system I will appreciate it.
I'm steessed out of this fvckin homework !!
I really want this system in India their educational system is useless and prevents use of creativity I am in grade 10 and I am being harassed by Sri chaitanya techno school and I desperately need this
ahhh can't wait to start my studies in Finland!
@Women's rights was a mistake frustrated much?
How was it?
one thing they never mention in these bits about Finnish schools is that these kids are FINNISH ! As a whole these people are much more cooperative, less competitive, and very efficient. It is a culture of 'nothing wasted'. Each person sees themselves as valued. Here in the US, there is an pervasive cultural creed... "I don't take no sh*t from nobody !" ...even at the cost of hurting one's self. The Finns have a very different mind set.
Exactly, it nearly brings tears to my eyes how beautiful the resulting society is when a heterogenous, high trust people are allowed to follow self determination
Because most Americans seem to think that their country is the best in the world.
This is neat the teachers seem to have a lot of wisdom
In the US education is run by state, it would be possible for some states to try a similar model. Finland has about 6 million people These states have a population of less than 6 million: Maryland, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Iowa, Mississippi, Arkansas, Kansas, Utah, Nevada, Hawaii, N Mexico, W Virginia, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Wyoming, N Dakota, Delaware, S Dakota, Alaska, DC and Vermont.
I think focus on languages at early grades is the most important key aspect since kids can learn a language much easier and faster at young age.
Very good English speaking country!! 4 languages learnt omg I would love Finland's education system over here in Scotland
Scotland can be proud of themselves. Scotland was once the home of global medicine. In fact Scotland has produced a lot of scientists. Be proud to have had a Scottish education.
This makes America look like a joke. It's ridiculous how Americans "pride" themselves in being the "best in the world", when clearly, we're be ran by politicians...not people who actually know how to educate.
Do you mean to imply that people who are not-so-well-off are less intelligent or can't raise their children to behave like humans? I grew up in a small village in Finland (our elementary school only had about 30 pupils). My parents didn't earn much and I think I turned out allright. Now I have a university degree (didn't have to pay for it, btw). None of my teachers ever slaved for anyone in my class.
Don't comment on our culture since you obviously know only about yours.
Detomidine hi,may I know more about Findland Education System from the student from Findland itself?
Comparing the US to Finland is a tough sell. First, 5.4 million vs. 300 million people. That's huge. SO many different types of people live in the US. It's not possible to educate everyone the same way finland does. 2nd, Finland does a great job, so naturally, people try to recreate, but with so many people, those schools are still crap. 3rd, the masters idea, isn't even possible. You wouldn't have enough teachers. Also, just cause you have a masters, doesn't mean you'll be a better teacher.
Sofisticated education system, l love it
@summer28 Good comment, and very true, but this makes even more of an argument for a system like Finalnd's. Create a nationally standardized system that emphasizes local/community schooling. It's the SYSTEM that's working in Finland - cooperative teaching, high teacher-to-student ratio, and high community and parent involvement. That's the system that works, and it will work in any socioeconomic group.
Teaching in Finland was very thorough, very slow and relaxed, no stress, nobody ever rushes you to do anything, everybody can take their time. Apart from the government inspections and all what that means, schools in England are good: great ideas, lots of attention to the children. Great resources and modern teaching methods, and in a good school you get a lot of teacher support. Not enough music and singing, perhaps :-). Finnish kids eat much healthier school dinners, as well.
Finnish schools are recognized as number one in world for student achievement. Some of the main points: educators make the decisions, NOT politicians. Teachers are encouraged to get master's degrees and the state picks up the tab. There is differentiated instruction. One teacher has same students for five years in elementary grades. Interesting stuff!
in Italy the school sucks.
Edoardo396 is it really?Why the school System in Italy Sucks?
@@PrinceKumar-wr1ll why the state don't invest in it , we are in a bad situation , fortunately I live and study in Trentino-SudTyrol at the border whit Austria , here the school works really well at the level of Finnish School , but only why here we are a autonomy region where we manage our system and money
Japan,too.
We are crammed a lot of knowledge only without output.
While in America....competition is more important then education
This makes me proud to be assistant teacher in finland.
I'd like to see them introduce some disgruntled African-Americans who remain marginalized from hundreds of years of past slavery, many undocumented immigrants fleeing violence in Mexico, poor White people who can only afford to feed their kids Cheetos, and the tension and between these groups...then see how they do.
Like most Finnish success, this probably has as much to do with being a tiny country of uniform White ethnicity that nobody goes to, as much as anything about taking off your shoes and calling a teacher by given name. Put these teachers in USA and let them try to even find an apartment to live in, pay the bills, and negotiate the different cultures!
Ooh, they learn 3 languages! Yeah, I speak different languages just going into the Hood!
I understand what your saying but please note that finland has 5 million people, way less than america but even if u took a state with only like 3.5 million people they would still have a high rate of drop outs. The thing is US schools use a sort of Darwinism, survival of the ' smartest,' while Finland uses more of a Diversely scaled education system that suits all. Also the school controls the school not the government
I live in africa in namibia and our education systems do vary. The public schools are horriffic but the private schools are excellent if you subtract rascism.We experienced apartheid.
Just treat everybody equally and teach them to respect each other.
The Education System sounds Great.With the Great Education system,What are the Great Achievement of Finland?Anything noticeable?what I heard is only about Nokia and Angry Bird....is there anything else??just curious to know....what actually this Great System Produce at the end of the Day n does it make Findland a Great n Popular country?
It makes people happy in their lifes, and educated.
For them, there is no such thing as boasting because you are the first. Well then, if you are the first, then help the others.
Actually, this mentality of solidarity is also the mentality for many of us in many countries of the world. Many of us do not like the american cowboys character of competition and selfishness.
Educated means they know many of the basic knowledge that humanity has achieved about the world and society and ourselves. And they know how to learn those things they do not know.
I dont expect you will find anyone in Finland thinking that the Bible is a book about nature, or society. I dont expect there is anyone believing the earth is flat, or the world was made before 6000 years. Or, that the US never went to the moon, etc.
I also think there is most probably a lot of loneliness in Finland. They have different cultural traditions, and we are most pleased we are not like them.
In Italia le scuola non sono così...sono più brutte
Are PAID to study. GOING TO FINLAND RIGHT FUCKING NOW
I wanna study finland 😞😞
what are you talking about, I'm not judging anyone I was just trying to clarify the question that was asked. Finland is a great place but it's true it's more homogeneous than the US and the rest of Europe.
Yes, all Finnish teachers can speak English. Actually nearly every Finn over 13 can speak some English.
If you truly live in Finland, do yourself a favor and look outside your barrel, or just open your eyes and move your own opinions away from the view...
It's funny how it works. If you're all you see, you don't really see much more than yourself.
There's almost 5,4 million residents in Finland. Not everyone lives a life similar to yours. :P
In my opinion I've been educated well. And, strangely enough, the world's studies appear to agree.
@TheKaos007 The American school system sucks... This is not what I think but, facts. You see you are doing it as well! You try to put people down just because they might not be able to speak English as well as you. This is why America is such a fail; because people always want to be better than the one standing next to them. When living in America there is no help to be found, just battles.
EVERYONE, STOP TALKING TO YUTYTUTY, HE IS A HATER, I HAD A WAR WITH HIM IN ANOTHER VIDEO, I WON COS I SAID FINLAND WAS ABLE TO DEFEND IN WWII AND CZECH GOT INVADED, HE IS A TROLL AND HE WILL NEVER STOP DISCRIMINATING FINLAND. It will save you from a lot if you ignore him.
Danke für dieses tolle Video. Mach weiter so. Vielleicht gefällt dir mein Kanal auch? Grüße Chris
In Finland everyone is given equal education but I understand how your American mind finds it hard to grasp. All people including immigrants are offered a free education and are paid to study. It is true that there are very few poor people because we judge poor as people who canot afford the basic nessecities like health care, good education and housing but in Finland the government supplies free education and health care and noone lives on the streets. But of course you think US is best
Bellerophon2200:s comment isn't very accurate. Finns are just as open as other Europeans, but we are a very small nation. Racism is socially unacceptable and the right and the responsability to basic education considers ALL children living in Finland. Problem is that the loudest and most racistic conversations and people get their voice heard too easily. This is even though immigration flow is small and we obey the quotas agreed in the EU.
The point is they do, they have immigrants, low-income families, etc., and everyone is taught equally - there are NO private schools at all, there is no competition and no standardised testing system (like SATs / GCSEs) And yet they are ranked #1 in the world for education.
Their ranking was carefully analysed to include all scores. This is not just one special or elite school... this is the whole country that has this system.
I think we should learn from it, not look for the 'catch' or fault'
Yes, we speak well. But Finnish is very informal at times. It is very common to drop letters out. Eg Hyvä (good) to hyv. As for slang, I suggest you google 'Helsinki slang' lol. It's primarily swearwords, used mainly by young people. Eg paska to skeida (both mean shit). Also: paska, perkele, kusipää, vittu, kyrpä, and heaps more are swearwords, and there are hundreds of sentences and word endings that could be added to mean other things ;-)
KVG! = (JFGI!) xDD
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the whole thing is about letting teachers do the work and self-sacrifice all their free time studing in vacations or helping the not so smart groups. And they pay middle-class salaries for masters. Enslaved teachers, that's what it looks like. Not to mention geographics have a play in culture, it's easy to educate polite people. Changing brats in a poor village
It is terrible to read the comments on this issue.. angry people specially from USA who cannot comprehend that their country is not the first one. It is terrible to read the angry comments on a subject that has no anger in it. I am specially very surprised that people in USA get very angry if they learn that other people not USA born study foreign languages.. they start to insult the people who,like me, have studied their language and are not perfect in it..We study bec. you do not want to do it
That comment is invalid. Though genetic differences can play a role, race doesn't matter. What matters is the environment that children grow up in. Just because you're black or Latino doesnt make you smarter or dumber than a white person or any other race. Whites do tend to be wealthier in the U.S., so a child's environment is generally better than a ignorant parent in the poor of the city. Children are like sponges: they soak up everything in terms of knowledge. If we created a noncompetitive
@tontsa911, no its not. it's made a big issue, when its in fact a non-issue. you simply cannot expect everything to be precise and full of relevance later in your life. You might have use for it or you might not, that's just how things are. after all, some or most of "ysiluokkalaisista" have no earthly idea what they're going to do after they "grow up". do they know what is relevant in THEIR life?
Hmm yeah in finland we students are equal and those who need more help get it without big fuss.. Only problem i guess are that kids can be mean to each others sometimes )):
I feel awfull that i can speak only 3 languages.. But i might start 4th sime day! Im just not so talented in thoseD: But luckily knowing finnish helps understand estonian and swedish to norwegian and danish..:)
See here in America we should be playing to our strengths. Is American English the international language? Then why waste time teaching American students French and Spanish? Does America have a widening divide between the rich and poor? Then we need to treat education the same. Gifted students should have a superior education. It's more cost effective than trying to waste resources trying to achieve a national baseline that's below average anyway.
@summer28 I'm not as much of a social democrat as Europeans are. European welfare states are nice and all but I just don't think they are practical over here. The US political structure is very decentralized compared to European countries. As for our 2 party system, that has to do with our winner take all style of elections, there is no proportional representation here, so third parties are always going to lose. Most people don't see the point in voting for 3rd parties.
@TheKaos007 America just hit its debt limit.....we only have 11 more week till we default on our debt unless the politicians work out some type of deal. The Nordic countries are pretty financially stable, they realize that if they want extensive government programs they're going to need high taxes to pay for them. In America people want there favorite government programs but don't want higher taxes. You can't have it both ways.
@TheKaos007 and just btw, you should stop insulting the english of these people commenting here. When your first language in Finnish, it is way harder to learn English than for many other people. Finnish doesn't derive from the same roots. In Finland people also learn very often over 3 languages, so you shouldn't be judging the Finnish language education system. And just btw, ho the f can you say if somebody is good or bad in English by talking to them through the Internet?
You can have all of the best school in the world, but if you don't have family who support family environment then it really does not matter.All of the European and USA schools are the best, but cultures of profits first before humanity differs from nation to nation. Korean schools are crammed and facility not the best, but scored well even during the days when Korea was extremely poor. Also self reflection, blaming myself before blame others... correcting myself first before asking others.
Note that they're all White. I understand that this is a very touchy subject for people, but you have to take into account what importance culture has and the possibility of genetic differences. Like they said, Finland has very little immigration. Unfortunately for those that promote the fallacious ideas of multiculturalism and diversity, they have never had a positive effect.
@HinFoo Actually, there are quite a lot of Muslims in Finland, Norway, and Sweden. Religion isn't really an issue in Finland, People don't talk about it often and don't really care what religion other people follow. finland's a lot more accepting of other cultures than most other countries in the world such as the United States. :)
@tontsa911,im only returning what i see, bro. you don't even pretend to have a point so i'm not obliged to either. and don't worry, the taxes i pay will cover for your unemployment-benefits. i didn't know someone would actually volunteer to be the inferior element in the workforce, but if that's yer call, by all means, go ahead.
Fair distribution of wealth is the key - progressive taxing and redirecting the profit to education, healthcare and other social standards which will eventually produce more tax payers. Finland obviously benefits from high resource in comparison to amount of population, but this does not mean the same system could not be applied in much larger countries. No country is perfect.
I refered all Finnish people as "polite" because people in cold countries tend to get more introspected since they spend a lot of time at home. By "poor village" I mean villages of poor countries. It is simply terrible to convince a parent read a book to his children here.
You mean other then embarrassing themselves in front of their entire class when they do group exercises like the one shown above? Also they do have exams in Finland they just don't do the stupid things like turning them into make it or break it benchmark for how well a school is working.
@shotsky94 Aww...No, it isnt. Scandinavia isnt a group of countries, its geographical territory. Only Northest parts of Finland are part of Scandinavia but way more than 50% isnt. But if one wants to think Scandinavia as group of countries itd be: Sweden, Norway and Denmark.
@shotsky94 Denial? I think id be aware if everyone around me would be a racist. Are you schizophrenic or something? Of course some people are racist, but thats the case in every country. By generalizing it you make yourself look like a fool.
Singapore OWNS Finland and as anyone who is successful knows, being productive teaching effectively is NOT EASY for students. or teachers if you have ever talked to one in your life.
this is just propaganda.. when i was in school my teachers knew i was the worst student and they just didnt give a fuck. my teacher said "its ur problem that u suck" lol
hmmm....education is a respected profession...education is not used for political ends....education is to be accessed equally for all...and the kicker...NO STANDARD TESTS. Well America, our "exceptionalism" has been humbled...
I hate it when people say that Finland's educational system sucks...in fact they have one of the best educational systems in the world and 93% of students graduate from high school every year whats bad in that??
and how do you know that? you're from czech republic, you're not even in Finland. I don't know why there are a lot of suicides in the escandinavian countries. Anyway, I think this is a good education system I think.
You can't say that everything is wrong because you have problems with school system. If you don't want to learn then there is no power to force you to do so. Don't blame others if you don't give a shit about education.
I wish America could be doing this. If we had a system where the kids actually LEARNED America could face its current challenges with ease, but unfortunately we seem to lack the educated population we need. :(
@shotsky94 Yup, every Finn is a racist. Its hilarious when geographical border determines are you a racist or not. You are being racist by saying ''Finns are racists'', thats like saying ''Blacks are thieves''. Grow up.
The U.S should be ashamed! My teachers are awful, sure I go to a public school! Not in the inner cities though, I live in a very wealthy and upscale neighborhood and my schools don't even look like this!
@TheKaos007 Actually Finland has become a country of net immigration rather than emigration. So have most other European countries. In fact immigration has become a very controversial issue in Europe.
Howdy.
Being a Finn this is bewildering.
I can agree that Finns study hard for tests and exams. Yes.
But if one asks a man on street what the 30 years war was about my guess is that less than 20% could answer.
Swedes are known to a cultivated people. My guess is that about 50% can answer.
So yes. We study hard and forget harder. Not much is truly assimilated.
Regards.
Finnish school is much more children-friendly than Hungarian schools. In Hungary (especially in high schools), pupils have zeroth class, which starts at 7 AM. This is a big stupidity. Our brain is not yet on. Imagine the zeroth class as mathematics... maths test on Monday 7 AM? I would say... no thanks. Finns start at around 9 every day. Much better for me, I have more time to sleep.
trust me Romania has the worst education system in the world! im from Romania so I am talking from experience.
Thats way I admire so mouch Finland's system. Finland really impressed me!
@TheKaos007 Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are pretty popular and any talk of cutting or reforming them in anyway is pretty much political suicide.
America does not have social democracy (except medicare & social security), therefore schools range in quality due to social economics and area. School can be privately funded (rich peeps), but many public schools do not get proper funding; politics, racial discrimination, income inequality, parents stretched to the limit.,working long hours are unable to parent well. We raise our kids to be "successful" meaning wealthy, whereas in this country it seems more holistic, well rounded, and geared to raising children to be happy and find their purpose. They don't need to make as much to be happy in Finland, as healthcare, schooling, and childcare are part of their social system. There seems to be better balance and values are different. In our family, we pay about 30 thousand per year (per child )to send our children to college...a heavy burden on parents, and yes, there are cheaper options, but the middle class doesn't get many perks or help with this. America is also an individualistic society; it's all about "me" not "us."Countries that are happier and more "successful" are collective/community vs. individualistic (statistically). And we have about 330 million people in America. That's a lot of problem solving. Anyway, it's a very complex problem with no easy answers. I'm glad our younger generations are aware of different ways of doing things in other countries. Maybe in the future we can do better with their help creating more supportive social policies.
they have look at ex GDR (DDR) part of east germany.iam proud to be an dhaved lived in east germany. but: westgermans must invent the wheel new. gg
You don't decide your future in peruskoulu. Peruskoulu is for ages 7 to 15 years old and then you go to lukio or ammattikoulu to decide your future !
Finns don't really study foreign languages much, as it is said in this video. Most Finns can speak fairly good English and very poor Swedish, I think.
@mrnarason - instead of trying to win an argument by calling someone a communist, perhaps you should point out the flaws in my earlier post first?
The U.S. could take an example from Finland, maybe then our drop out rate wouldnt be so high
@LChinese1991 I don't think it's that simple because in many of those top scoring countries with few immigrants even the immigrants score high.
the united states is dooooooooooomed.
it will be like trying to convince a bunch of snotty teenagers to do their homework. good luck!
I wish Brazil was like Suomi...snowy, full of polite and intelligent people (not to mention beautiful) and a more corruptionless country :(
@shotsky94 What happened to the ''Finns are racists.'' Is it whole Scandinavia now? And as a newsflash: Finland isnt part of Scandinavia.
@TheKaos007 "Everybody wants to come to America,nobody wants to go to Finland.."
That is truly the most idiotic thing i've ever heard :D
i was also watching a vid on the south korean system...clearly the finns are getting great results w/o much of the stress.
Too much time spent on math, science and self reliance. Not enough time spent on free food, free medication and inclusion. shame.
There are very low levels poverty and diversity in Finland. This is why we could not implement this system.
Hmmm . . . Stay at home mom, school doesn't start until boys are old enough to deal with symbolic language, same teacher for a number of years . . . certainly not favored in North America. Real educators know the value of these factors, but in North America you carefully keep your mouth shut and if you are careful the paycheques keep coming. The inertia of education to stay the same is virtually impossible to change. Some try for a while, but are soon drowned by the wave of conventional "wisdom". You don't rise to the top challenging those who also climbed there by mimicking others who really don't have a clue.
My School in america we can learn another language in 8th grade until graduation, but my Spanish teacher was deported...
@jsmith224455 Finland has the advantage of not having to worry about poor people. We should do the same.
An Excellent educational system of community participation.
so finland isnt like the middle east where all the women have beards and wear a towel over their head
finns dont do any tests thats why they are so good at school, i would be too if i didnt do any tests