Cheers! Yeah it such an awesome channel community. Love that one person ask how everyone is doing and the discussion just rolls as if we were all speaking in person.
Hi Ped, I joined Octopus late last year and ordered a smart meter straight away. Nice chap came in February fitted new meters and gave me the home display to check what I was using. The gas part of the display worked straight away, it took about 3 weeks before the info was available to see on the website. The electric however was a different story. After waiting 2 weeks I emailed Octopus -nothing after 3 days. It's taken 4 phone calls, 6 emails and 10 weeks before both the website and display are now working. They still couldn't give any reason what the problem was. I'm hoping to change to Octopus go, but now I'm hoping it don't throw a spanner in the works. Just thought I would say that it may take a bit of time before the smart meters become - "Smart". Great videos and content as usual, very envious of that Zappi charger.
Octopus Agile has been on the expensive side over the last few months due to a lack of supply (several reactors have been offline), but Octopus Go is a fantastic alternative giving 5 hours at 5 pence per KWh for EV charging, with the rest priced just below 14 pence per KWh
Good choice! The Zappi is #1 on my list for the ability to change charging priorities so I can use all my solar surplus and have the flexibility to change the priorities depending on whether I'm home all day or need to get a charge in a certain time regardless. That is the killer feature especially when you are exporting nearly 1000kW per quarter for a measly amount. I am in Australia and the only concern I would have is how it would handle a hot day with the sun on it or would it need to be sheltered. On the lock on the fuse panel, Any industry especially mining has very strict protocols on isolations including a clamp that everyone puts their lock on so it could have 5 or 6 locks on it. Not nice when someone turns on a 1000 Hp machine with someone inside it.
I’ve got a Zappie linked to solar and about to install battery storage as well. The Zappie also very cleverly disconnects the EV if there is a fault on the supply to your house. Otherwise your EV could be live with what appears the rest of your house disconnected!
Nice Install. I was on Octopus Agile but went to Go -Faster as Agile prices have not been great lately (wholesale prices have got higher). Go faster is a bit easier to deal with as straightforward.I now get 4 hours between 8:30pm and 12:30am at 5p/kWh and that means I can also do washing etc atthat time not just charge the car ;-) Agile was getting too expensive as the daytime rate was so much higher :( Might be worth a look as with Go-Faster you can choose (to a certain extent)the times you want the cheap period to be and also how long can have 3h for 4.5p or 5 hours for 5.5p so its very good! I may go back to agile in the future as it was a great idea to try to balance the load on the grid and reflect the carbon intensity with higher prices.
Useful information again as I fit out my new garage. No EV/Hybrid yet but maybe later in the year so seeing the installation was interesting. Stay safe! Richard😃😃😃
Another great video and more great content. I’ll share it to a EV Driving Instructors group on Facebook, so many ADI’s are getting EV tuition vehicles, this will be of great interest I’m sure.
Shared with my friend who’s brother has ordered a BMW I3 Sport and he’s now awaiting his own one of these after watching this and talking to them . Hopefully you also got a new subscriber !
Just ordered my black tethered unit, solar panels, storage battery, Tesla M3 LR and in the process of the switch to Octopus Energy - like an 8 year old waiting for Christmas at present, roll on May
I've just changed from Agile to Go as Agile prices have been quite high for several months now... whereas with Octopus Go you are charged 5p per kwh between 12.30am and 4.30am which your Zappi can be set to. Once your smart meter is fitted you can change to Go immediately. Good luck👍
Zappis are great bit of kit. . I've got 2 EV's and solar. Had so much sunshine that I actually managed to fill both cars last weekend. Running cost for overnight charging on Octopus GO is £1.47 for about 100 miles of range. My business fuel costs have gone from £30 a week to about £2.
That’s brilliant. With these savings, surely it will reduce the time it will take to get your money back from the solar panels? Most people say it takes 10-15 years to earn the money back from solar, but if the solar is charging your car, surely this time is slashed?
@@neilmcknight9003 They've paid for themselves this spring. I bought them in 2013 and get about £700 feed in tariff payments a year. Typically now the government has slashed the FIT payments new solar buyers will only get their money back if they charge an EV during the day.
You know a lot of people have uploaded videos of them using different charge points (Charge Master, Shell, etc), and explaining how they charge their cars. It would brilliant if you could make a video diary of doing the same thing. It would sort of add to your already cool reviews that you have done.
Great video! I have an Ohme charger which connects to the car and works out how much power it needs to reach target and starts at optimum price point..great tech!
Having your own private fuel station in the garage is every bloke’s dream. You didn’t mention the output of yours? My Taycan 4S+ charges at 7,4kW. Strangely on the same equipment, the TMXP charges at 8,4kW and the TM3P at a whopping 10.4kW!! Not sure why my Taycan charges so “slow”. 0-100% takes about 13-14hrs (as charge drops in the end), but in general, one doesn’t park with an empty battery, and 7-8hrs is the usual charge time to reach 100% so I guess overnight “full tank” is OK. Now you just got to get yourself a Taycan😉 The base RWD with the big battery goes a long way👌🏻
13:21 *I have a **_Smart Meter_** it alerts me when my wife has left the Heater on **_again_** - have bought her a Tog24 Ski Jacket and saved ££££ on Energy - Go Green like Greta I tell her as she Shivers, The Lounge and Kitchen areas can be reduced on individual thermostats by as much as 5-10 degrees, before any risk of hypothermia set in, at which point to prevent any loss of limbs due to frostbite we go to bed with ONE HOT Water Bottle taken in turns of course, but sometimes find alternative means*
I wanted the wallbox pulsar plus but couldn't find an olev installer and ended up with the Zappi. It is a really good charger and myenergi have great customer service too. Really glad I ended up getting one. One thing they could improve is allowing a timed charge greater than 8 hours. When I need to do an equalisation charge I could do with a longer time period.
Unfortunately my car doesn't have a timer and my off peak starts at 00:30. I only need the longer timing for an equalisation charge which isn't very often.
That was really interesting. You didn't give a cost but I will have a look on their website. If I was buying a second hand electric or plug in hybrid I would need to get one so that has been most helpful. Thanks again.
@@PetrolPed Thanks very much. It helps greatly knowing a company that can be trusted that comes on a recommendation that I trust as well. Not quite at the stage of purchasing yet but it's a near certainty that the next car will be at least a PHEV if not a full electric.
Hi Ped and not forgetting the Pups Excellent content and very informative, well done. Interesting to see how much tec is incorporated in the installation. However when you mentioned the Smart Meter thus got my blood pressure up.I think the introduction of Smart Meters (Gen 1) has been the most disasterous roll out and financial scam we have been saddled with in years. Not Fit For Purpose and no one will be held accountable😬😬😬
Next up solar panels and a MINI E for daily driving. 😁👍 Or a Tesla model 3 long range and a second charger at the holiday home in Cornwall (think it is) and your sorted. It’s addictive by the looks of it. Would love a Zappy and a EV but a few things need to fall in place either a dip in new EV price along with increased range as it wouldn’t be a second Car as I’d want to actually do road trips. Pity you missed out on that new Ioniq 5 it looks amazing, maybe get one to review when they actually have more than one in the U.K.👍
I’ve a friend who is a sparky that sounds exactly like Kevin when doing a job.... I think sparkys are a bit like policemen when it comes to vocabulary & terminology. 😂
You need the right energy meter to do these off peak charging . Electricity suppliers can’t measure your usage with without smart meters. In most cases you do not get the cheapest energy tariff when you have the supplier install a new meter. The recoup that cost in charging more per kWh.
Hi. Take care to do the analysis on the agile tariff as it’s not always as cheap as you’d like. We’ve been on it for 10 months or so and initial savings were huge but we’ve paid more than our previous tariff for the last few months even being careful to avoid the peak hours.
@@PetrolPed If/when you are on a smart meter you can download the Octopus Compare app. It analyses your actual previous usage and will give you exact costs of each Octopus tariff for your own pattern of use. Everybody's situation is different. (It's true that Agile has not actually been a good deal recently for many people .. over the past month I would have paid £18 more on Agile than on Go.)
interesting, especially for a Barnham resident who already uses Octopus Energy . I assume 1st test is going to be the Polestar test /week would be interested if the Polestar can play digital music from a USB stick. Last time I investigated it could not
Am thinking about getting this but hear a lot of criticisms regards build quality and it not working as it should? Have solar panel and buying a Tesla.
Solar would be a great move. Given time one imagines that the 'agile' tariff will change - it is all about when people are using electric - if everyone is charging cars at night (normally a low usage period) - will there still be a price advantage. I already have a Ground Source Heat Pump (installed in 2006) - this means I can't have an EV charger on our property (in the middle of nowhere!) as our power supply isn't big enough (We are limited to a 100 amps) - We also have a granny annex on site for my Mother in Law. Good Luck and will be interested to see developments.
I’ve had a Zappi since September. Brilliant bit of kit. Really comes into its own when you have Solar. There’s no greater satisfaction than seeing your car charging for free from the Sun!
Zappi all the way with control over car charging, battery storage charging, hot water storage heating, control over charge rates, control over setting a maximum load do not to overload the main fuse, great App control, very neat unit and way of holding the 6.5m cable, no need for an earth spike and World Patented RCD DC and AC inbuilt protection without the need fir additional units. Over the air updates as well and British! Looks great and easy to keep clean. Move to Agile or easier Go or Go Faster tariffs with Octopus 🐙 and with Go works out at less than 1p per mile driving, every day/night!!
Well ... I would challenge you on the Zappi "over the air updates"! What a faff. That is the biggest negative of the Zappi owning experience IMHO. A true over the air update happens automatically without user intervention. With a Zappi you have to check that the software version on the Hub is up to date ... if not you have to press/hold/release appropriate button ... wait for download.... watch for colour change on LED. You then have to get the Hub to download the latest software for the Zappi itself by holding down the appropriate button on the Hub for x number of seconds then release ... the download can then take anything between a couple of minutes to half an hour ... watch for the change LED colours or flashing ... once that has been done you need to transfer the software from the Hub to the Zappi ... so you go to the Zappi itself and punch through about 5 different menus to get to where you tell it to download the new software from the Hub. Depending on the software version this can come in 2 downloads and takes several minutes ... after that the Zappi should restart. Job done but it's so complicated you have to go online to check the sequence each time you do it ... and they even changed the instructions. So, OTA updates are definitely more of a technical embarrassment than a selling point! Anyone who is not technically savvy would be totally lost.
I was looking at a Cooper SE until I saw an Autocar article saying Mini are bringing out an electric JCW later in the year or early next year which sounds very interesting.Thought that could even tempt you away from the Tesla Pete although I expect JCWs range will not be much better than the Cooper Se especially with the JCW dial set to maximum performance. I am still waiting to see the electric mini pace car on Formula E. Good podcast by Mrs Ped by the way.
To say that Octopus or for that matter any energy supplier is “Green because they get all their energy from Green Sources” is a complete distortion of the reality. ALL of the energy that individual suppliers sell comes from the National Grid so it depends how that is divided at the point of delivery, Coal and Nuclear are still heavily weighted in the mix. At various times there is a bias towards ‘renewables’ but there is no 100% all year supply from these sources by any supplier.
I’ve one of the original Mk1 Zappi’s along with a Harvi, Eddi, and hub. As I’ve also a Tesla Powerwall I find that the OctopusEnergy Go tariff is the best as on that I get four hours of energy at just 5 pence per kWh that’s enough even in the winter to charge my Powerwall which in turn runs the house. In my opinion the Agile tariff is best suited for those without battery back up or solar panels. You haven’t put your link to myenergi £50 discount ! Whoops 😬 should have said your OctopusEnergy £50 discount.
I saw a video recently about EV usage in the USA, which responded to customer surveys concerning the tipping point for choosing EVs. In the video it suggested that the salient points were a guaranteed 320 miles and a price of $31000 max. The exchange rate puts that at £23800, and personally I would rather see close to 500 miles range, so I don't believe here in the UK that we are close to the tipping point yet. The price of the vehicle is going to be the biggest stumbling block, because we come back to the old argument about the variation in price depending on the country you are in. I was wondering if anyone else would like to suggest their own particular price/range requirements before they would consider changing?
@@PetrolPed For clarity ... it's a different Zappi model that has to be installed for 3 phase. And very few EVs are capable of taking advantage of that 22kW. Even a Tesla Model 3 maxes out at 11kW on AC charging. Still a useful increase in speed if you have the option (and if charging multiple vehicles).
The install cost can vary a lot depending on what cabling is needed etc. Average cost of charger and instal would be about £1000 not including any government subsidy 👍
Hi, would you provide update with Zappy software experience? After a year is it really working as stated? Did you have any message on car dash board contradicting Zappy app? Will really appreciate if you provide update. Thanks Maz
Is the back of the barn south facing as my house is if it is south facing then your solars panels will be in the sunshine the most of the day usually 8-12 hours
Hi Mate Yep I’ve got the smart meter now, just need to change the tariff. Solar panels and power wall in early stages of planning. Will be fitted next year 👍
@@PetrolPed good morning sir. Hope you are well. Thank you for the reply. Does power wall suggest a Tesla model Y or roadster might be coming your way?
Had my white V2 Zappi installed back in Dec 19 before my MG ZS EV arrived on 1st Mar 20 although as I could prove I had a car on order I received the £500 Gov grant as it was back then. Have you bought an electric car yet Ped?
Is it clever enough (with appropriate wiring) to charge a car straight from PV when there's a power cut in the local distribution network? And does it have a "dumb" fail-safe mode. Say if the hub dies or the software suffers from the equivalent of a "blue screen of death"? I've worked in I.T. for 40 years and I'm extremely wary of new software. VW's Id.3 software for example....
Unless you have an EV all the time I should think you may end up just using it to charge when you need to charge rather than worrying about setting up set economic charging regimes. If you are coordinating sources of power generation and using clever coordinated tariffs then the Zappi is a great tool but in practice all EVs have the capability to time their charging so a basic box is all many people will need. Even with the grant it's not cheap! (I know, I've got one too.)
1)(1:55 sec) Canisters of biscuits and cake and the electrician didn't go for them....what's his problem ? 2) (14:06 sec) In Canada (Québec) electricity costs (0.0427 cents Cad kwh) or (0.026p UK/kwh) ! I understand the folks (who, by the way, drive on the wrong side of the road.......I thought I'd slip that in😉)....in the UK you pay something like 18.4p/kwh ! ! Wow ! That is expensive ! 3) (14:19 sec) Solar panels and UK (oxymoronic)...........that's like saying sun with UK in the same sentence.........I heard that in the UK it's either cloudy, covered, misty, foggy or rainy but sunny ? Free electricity ! in the UK ? That was certainly funny.....well I found it funny ! And finally, in all seriousness, your electricity tariffs are unbelievably complicated and costly as hell ! Here (Québec, Canada) an electrician will install an EV charging station pedestal for outside parking or a wall unit in a garage or shed or carport. Most have cellphone connection but only for time schedules (charge status, time to start and time left) You just plug in the car and that's it ! It's the same tariff all day/night. Some communities offer rebates for a residential installations. Interesting video, as always ! Thanks.
You do not realise how tempting it was and I had to use all of my willpower to not plunder the cake tin, plus having a camera following your every move is quite a deterrent...
@@kevy427 To hell with the camera....to hell with willpower ! I would plunder mercilessly and slaughter every cookie or cake that should cross my path ! ........then, with a cup of tea, no, I prefer coffee, I would install the wiring. There is no shame in a lack of willpower, and showing no mercy and enjoying cookies and cake ! Slaughtering, on the other hand, might not be that popular with the general public. Thanks and have a great day.
Great! So anytime I'm passing through on the A27, I can drop in for a free charge? Ah, I don't own an electric car either, and have never driven one.. 😐
Not sure why he was wearing a Hat in the first place there was no sun and he was inside under cover ,,,, still he looked "COOL" COOL DUDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lots of variables to consider so costs do vary; cable run from the charger to the board, whether any trenching is needed, type of cable used (SWA, NYY-J, T&E) depending on the environment, earthing system (although that doesn't affect the Zappi), main cut-out fuse rating, if there are any spare ways on the distribution board (DB), does the existing DB need upgrading to suit, existing electrical load in the property...so you could be looking at a couple of hours to a day to install Then there's the charger you choose as there are so many on the market, each with their good and bad points. The ones offered by the big utility companies aren't particularly good, neither are those which sound like a posh watch. Look for one with built-in PEN fault detection as that means there's no need for an earth rod to be installed which adds an additional expense along with the risk of hitting underground services when it's being installed A pretty vague answer for you but under £1000 will get a good charger and its installation
It can get expensive if you have to bury cables. If you don't need to bury them it shouldn't be a big cost. I'm afraid the truth is that there are many EV installers who are making a lot of money ... that grant gets swallowed up very quickly!
It's a proper faff all this electric vehicle shenanigans. I've got a smart meter, but it's not new enough to be used by a new provider so needs swapping for a newer one. I'll stick to the fossil fuel for a while yet.
Gotta love supporting British companies 🇬🇧
Always try to if I can 👍
Hi everyone I pray everyone is safe and healthy! Just wanted to say I love this community of peddlers you all rock!
Cheers! Yeah it such an awesome channel community. Love that one person ask how everyone is doing and the discussion just rolls as if we were all speaking in person.
@@francoisg3500 I love how it feels like we are all good friends just having a great chat!
I think it's fantastic we see the same regulars here for every video. I have noticed a few new names in the magnificent seven though.
It’s such a great channel, Pete has done so well to grow such a loyal set of followers which has in turn created this friendly community 😊
@@lorrainebeckett281 Yeah absolutely! It thanks to him and subscriber actively want to chat with each other.
This is why i really love this channel, we get so much variety, great video Ped.
I second that... So much varied and informative content. Brilliantly put together.
I do try 😜😂
Very good choice mate! Got a Zappi tied into the solar & get a top-up charge from excess solar! Epic piece of kit
Nice 👍
Really gets me thinking about getting a charger fitted, moving house in about a year and it could be a great selling point.
Yep. Very much so 👍
Hi Ped, I joined Octopus late last year and ordered a smart meter straight away. Nice chap came in February fitted new meters and gave me the home display to check what I was using. The gas part of the display worked straight away, it took about 3 weeks before the info was available to see on the website. The electric however was a different story. After waiting 2 weeks I emailed Octopus -nothing after 3 days. It's taken 4 phone calls, 6 emails and 10 weeks before both the website and display are now working. They still couldn't give any reason what the problem was. I'm hoping to change to Octopus go, but now I'm hoping it don't throw a spanner in the works. Just thought I would say that it may take a bit of time before the smart meters become - "Smart".
Great videos and content as usual, very envious of that Zappi charger.
Octopus Agile has been on the expensive side over the last few months due to a lack of supply (several reactors have been offline), but Octopus Go is a fantastic alternative giving 5 hours at 5 pence per KWh for EV charging, with the rest priced just below 14 pence per KWh
Thanks for this 👍
Yes, there are people on the e-Niro owners facebook group who are getting £0.05/kWh. So a £2 overnight charge is a week of driving for most people.
Learning, learning, learning. Thanks for all the thought that goes into your videos 🤔🤔😍😍
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
A fantastic video Pete which explained the installation and set up/useage in easy to understand terms, wall chargers have come a long way.
Thanks Gareth 👍
Good choice!
The Zappi is #1 on my list for the ability to change charging priorities so I can use all my solar surplus and have the flexibility to change the priorities depending on whether I'm home all day or need to get a charge in a certain time regardless. That is the killer feature especially when you are exporting nearly 1000kW per quarter for a measly amount.
I am in Australia and the only concern I would have is how it would handle a hot day with the sun on it or would it need to be sheltered.
On the lock on the fuse panel, Any industry especially mining has very strict protocols on isolations including a clamp that everyone puts their lock on so it could have 5 or 6 locks on it. Not nice when someone turns on a 1000 Hp machine with someone inside it.
I’ve got a Zappie linked to solar and about to install battery storage as well. The Zappie also very cleverly disconnects the EV if there is a fault on the supply to your house. Otherwise your EV could be live with what appears the rest of your house disconnected!
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Nice Install. I was on Octopus Agile but went to Go -Faster as Agile prices have not been great lately (wholesale prices have got higher). Go faster is a bit easier to deal with as straightforward.I now get 4 hours between 8:30pm and 12:30am at 5p/kWh and that means I can also do washing etc atthat time not just charge the car ;-) Agile was getting too expensive as the daytime rate was so much higher :( Might be worth a look as with Go-Faster you can choose (to a certain extent)the times you want the cheap period to be and also how long can have 3h for 4.5p or 5 hours for 5.5p so its very good! I may go back to agile in the future as it was a great idea to try to balance the load on the grid and reflect the carbon intensity with higher prices.
Useful information again as I fit out my new garage. No EV/Hybrid yet but maybe later in the year so seeing the installation was interesting. Stay safe! Richard😃😃😃
Good to future proof it 😜👍
Ahhh-hah! At last! Now do a week living with an EV, pleeeese! Always really good vids mate. Love it
I’ve done several of those. The most recent was with an Audi etron Sportback 👍
Another great video and more great content.
I’ll share it to a EV Driving Instructors group on Facebook, so many ADI’s are getting EV tuition vehicles, this will be of great interest I’m sure.
Great. Thanks 🙏🏻
Shared with my friend who’s brother has ordered a BMW I3 Sport and he’s now awaiting his own one of these after watching this and talking to them . Hopefully you also got a new subscriber !
Just ordered my black tethered unit, solar panels, storage battery, Tesla M3 LR and in the process of the switch to Octopus Energy - like an 8 year old waiting for Christmas at present, roll on May
Very cool 😎
Really interesting..well done Pete and all involved..
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Pete this was a great video lots of information and shows you that there is more to electric cars
Thanks 👍
What a fascinating and informative video Well done Pete. Now all you need is the MINI Cooper SE to plug in 👍
Thanks guys 🙏🏻
I've just changed from Agile to Go as Agile prices have been quite high for several months now... whereas with Octopus Go you are charged 5p per kwh between 12.30am and 4.30am which your Zappi can be set to. Once your smart meter is fitted you can change to Go immediately. Good luck👍
Great. Thanks for the info 👍
Zappis are great bit of kit. . I've got 2 EV's and solar. Had so much sunshine that I actually managed to fill both cars last weekend. Running cost for overnight charging on Octopus GO is £1.47 for about 100 miles of range. My business fuel costs have gone from £30 a week to about £2.
Wow 😳
That’s brilliant. With these savings, surely it will reduce the time it will take to get your money back from the solar panels? Most people say it takes 10-15 years to earn the money back from solar, but if the solar is charging your car, surely this time is slashed?
@@PetrolPed "fuel" cost update . .Done 5000 miles in my MG5 and it's cost £44 in electric so less than a penny a mile!!
@@neilmcknight9003 They've paid for themselves this spring. I bought them in 2013 and get about £700 feed in tariff payments a year. Typically now the government has slashed the FIT payments new solar buyers will only get their money back if they charge an EV during the day.
Very interesting video Pete....I’ve started to follow what’s needed as I guess we’ll have to go electric sooner rather than later. Cheers. Richard
Thanks Richard 👍
You know a lot of people have uploaded videos of them using different charge points (Charge Master, Shell, etc), and explaining how they charge their cars. It would brilliant if you could make a video diary of doing the same thing. It would sort of add to your already cool reviews that you have done.
Cool tech. Just need that electric Porsche now for Mrs PP!
Must list my kidney on EBay 👍
Such a great video ! Thank you for this ⚡️🙏🏼
My pleasure guys. Can’t wait to use it more. Charged my mates Model S on Sunday and it was great playing with my app 😜👍
Great video! I have an Ohme charger which connects to the car and works out how much power it needs to reach target and starts at optimum price point..great tech!
Cool 😎
What a cracking video, from the electrical install to the commissioning of the unit. Think i will be getting a Zappi charger.
Thanks guys
Cheers Mike 👍
Getting Pv Solar and Zappi installed next month. Looking forward to playing with this kit..
Nice 👌
Having your own private fuel station in the garage is every bloke’s dream. You didn’t mention the output of yours? My Taycan 4S+ charges at 7,4kW. Strangely on the same equipment, the TMXP charges at 8,4kW and the TM3P at a whopping 10.4kW!! Not sure why my Taycan charges so “slow”. 0-100% takes about 13-14hrs (as charge drops in the end), but in general, one doesn’t park with an empty battery, and 7-8hrs is the usual charge time to reach 100% so I guess overnight “full tank” is OK.
Now you just got to get yourself a Taycan😉 The base RWD with the big battery goes a long way👌🏻
The Tesla 3 can do 1x32A (7.4kW) or 3x16A (11kW)
13:21 *I have a **_Smart Meter_** it alerts me when my wife has left the Heater on **_again_** - have bought her a Tog24 Ski Jacket and saved ££££ on Energy - Go Green like Greta I tell her as she Shivers, The Lounge and Kitchen areas can be reduced on individual thermostats by as much as 5-10 degrees, before any risk of hypothermia set in, at which point to prevent any loss of limbs due to frostbite we go to bed with ONE HOT Water Bottle taken in turns of course, but sometimes find alternative means*
I wanted the wallbox pulsar plus but couldn't find an olev installer and ended up with the Zappi. It is a really good charger and myenergi have great customer service too. Really glad I ended up getting one. One thing they could improve is allowing a timed charge greater than 8 hours. When I need to do an equalisation charge I could do with a longer time period.
Just set the Zappi to "Fast" without bothering with any timer in those instances. Set the start time on your car (if it allows it).
Unfortunately my car doesn't have a timer and my off peak starts at 00:30. I only need the longer timing for an equalisation charge which isn't very often.
Great video, I've been searching for one that is this detailed so thank you for that.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
That was really interesting. You didn't give a cost but I will have a look on their website. If I was buying a second hand electric or plug in hybrid I would need to get one so that has been most helpful. Thanks again.
Feel free to email sales@myenergi.com if you have any questions 😌
@@kennymay_sings Will do. Thanks
With the charger and cost of install, which can vary depending on cables needed etc it’s probably around £1000 👍
@@PetrolPed Thanks very much. It helps greatly knowing a company that can be trusted that comes on a recommendation that I trust as well. Not quite at the stage of purchasing yet but it's a near certainty that the next car will be at least a PHEV if not a full electric.
Cracking upload & very informative. Learnt a lot 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Great work Zappi 👍
Hi Ped and not forgetting the Pups
Excellent content and very informative, well done. Interesting to see how much tec is incorporated in the installation. However when you mentioned the Smart Meter thus got my blood pressure up.I think the introduction of Smart Meters (Gen 1) has been the most disasterous roll out and financial scam we have been saddled with in years. Not Fit For Purpose and no one will be held accountable😬😬😬
Very true 👍
Interesting, I'm looking to go full electric for my next car this year. I'm just over in Horndean. Might give Kevin a call.
He is highly recommended. Let him know I sent you 😜👍
Next up solar panels and a MINI E for daily driving. 😁👍 Or a Tesla model 3 long range and a second charger at the holiday home in Cornwall (think it is) and your sorted. It’s addictive by the looks of it. Would love a Zappy and a EV but a few things need to fall in place either a dip in new EV price along with increased range as it wouldn’t be a second Car as I’d want to actually do road trips. Pity you missed out on that new Ioniq 5 it looks amazing, maybe get one to review when they actually have more than one in the U.K.👍
I emailed Hyundai yesterday😜😂
You can still get the grant if you are leasing a plug in hybrid or full electric car 😊
I’ve a friend who is a sparky that sounds exactly like Kevin when doing a job.... I think sparkys are a bit like policemen when it comes to vocabulary & terminology. 😂
LOL 😂
We’re all just as pedantic too😉
You need the right energy meter to do these off peak charging . Electricity suppliers can’t measure your usage with without smart meters. In most cases you do not get the cheapest energy tariff when you have the supplier install a new meter. The recoup that cost in charging more per kWh.
Extremely well put together and very informative.
Thanks Trev 👍
Hi. Take care to do the analysis on the agile tariff as it’s not always as cheap as you’d like.
We’ve been on it for 10 months or so and initial savings were huge but we’ve paid more than our previous tariff for the last few months even being careful to avoid the peak hours.
Thanks for the heads up 👍
@@PetrolPed If/when you are on a smart meter you can download the Octopus Compare app. It analyses your actual previous usage and will give you exact costs of each Octopus tariff for your own pattern of use. Everybody's situation is different. (It's true that Agile has not actually been a good deal recently for many people .. over the past month I would have paid £18 more on Agile than on Go.)
interesting, especially for a Barnham resident who already uses Octopus Energy . I assume 1st test is going to be the Polestar test /week would be interested if the Polestar can play digital music from a USB stick. Last time I investigated it could not
Nope...something else coming before that 😜👍
Hi I have the same unit it works great with my MG5 I charge it from my solar panels the zappi is a great bit of kit
Nice 👍
Am thinking about getting this but hear a lot of criticisms regards build quality and it not working as it should? Have solar panel and buying a Tesla.
Solar would be a great move. Given time one imagines that the 'agile' tariff will change - it is all about when people are using electric - if everyone is charging cars at night (normally a low usage period) - will there still be a price advantage. I already have a Ground Source Heat Pump (installed in 2006) - this means I can't have an EV charger on our property (in the middle of nowhere!) as our power supply isn't big enough (We are limited to a 100 amps) - We also have a granny annex on site for my Mother in Law. Good Luck and will be interested to see developments.
the Zappi can limit its output based on usage to enable it not to exceed your maximum demand
Thank you for this vid, very informative and useful. Excellent tradesmen too.
My pleasure 👍
I’ve had a Zappi since September. Brilliant bit of kit. Really comes into its own when you have Solar. There’s no greater satisfaction than seeing your car charging for free from the Sun!
What rate of charge do you get I hear they are around 7kw chargers.
@@cephasmakuzva 7kw is the most you can get from a home charger unless you have 3 phase.
Thank you Chris ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Where did you get your free solar system from?
Gotta love those doggy helpers!
So helpful 😂😂😂
Very cool install and top blokes they are 👍🏻🍻🇨🇦now for the Petrol Ped electric ⚡️ car purchase ?
Another excellent video.
I must add. The two gentlemen in the garage were only social distancing at 1.575m - counting bricks). 🤔🤣
*Illegal CALL THE COPS*
*Cops Stated as no Door on the Garage no charges will be pursued against Ped*
That’ll do 😜😂
Great vid Ped. Very interesting 👍
Thanks Rob 👍
Zappi all the way with control over car charging, battery storage charging, hot water storage heating, control over charge rates, control over setting a maximum load do not to overload the main fuse, great App control, very neat unit and way of holding the 6.5m cable, no need for an earth spike and World Patented RCD DC and AC inbuilt protection without the need fir additional units. Over the air updates as well and British! Looks great and easy to keep clean. Move to Agile or easier Go or Go Faster tariffs with Octopus 🐙 and with Go works out at less than 1p per mile driving, every day/night!!
Well ... I would challenge you on the Zappi "over the air updates"! What a faff. That is the biggest negative of the Zappi owning experience IMHO. A true over the air update happens automatically without user intervention. With a Zappi you have to check that the software version on the Hub is up to date ... if not you have to press/hold/release appropriate button ... wait for download.... watch for colour change on LED. You then have to get the Hub to download the latest software for the Zappi itself by holding down the appropriate button on the Hub for x number of seconds then release ... the download can then take anything between a couple of minutes to half an hour ... watch for the change LED colours or flashing ... once that has been done you need to transfer the software from the Hub to the Zappi ... so you go to the Zappi itself and punch through about 5 different menus to get to where you tell it to download the new software from the Hub. Depending on the software version this can come in 2 downloads and takes several minutes ... after that the Zappi should restart. Job done but it's so complicated you have to go online to check the sequence each time you do it ... and they even changed the instructions. So, OTA updates are definitely more of a technical embarrassment than a selling point! Anyone who is not technically savvy would be totally lost.
I was looking at a Cooper SE until I saw an Autocar article saying Mini are bringing out an electric JCW later in the year or early next year which sounds very interesting.Thought that could even tempt you away from the Tesla Pete although I expect JCWs range will not be much better than the Cooper Se especially with the JCW dial set to maximum performance.
I am still waiting to see the electric mini pace car on Formula E.
Good podcast by Mrs Ped by the way.
Thanks Graham. I’ll let her know you enjoyed it 👍
Great video. I could view an 1h video of Kevin sorting the electric cables.
LOL 😂
No more tripping fuses with unrolled extension cords!
😎⚡🤪
To say that Octopus or for that matter any energy supplier is “Green because they get all their energy from Green Sources” is a complete distortion of the reality. ALL of the energy that individual suppliers sell comes from the National Grid so it depends how that is divided at the point of delivery, Coal and Nuclear are still heavily weighted in the mix. At various times there is a bias towards ‘renewables’ but there is no 100% all year supply from these sources by any supplier.
I’ve one of the original Mk1 Zappi’s along with a Harvi, Eddi, and hub. As I’ve also a Tesla Powerwall I find that the OctopusEnergy Go tariff is the best as on that I get four hours of energy at just 5 pence per kWh that’s enough even in the winter to charge my Powerwall which in turn runs the house. In my opinion the Agile tariff is best suited for those without battery back up or solar panels. You haven’t put your link to myenergi £50 discount ! Whoops 😬 should have said your OctopusEnergy £50 discount.
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I saw a video recently about EV usage in the USA, which responded to customer surveys concerning the tipping point for choosing EVs. In the video it suggested that the salient points were a guaranteed 320 miles and a price of $31000 max. The exchange rate puts that at £23800, and personally I would rather see close to 500 miles range, so I don't believe here in the UK that we are close to the tipping point yet. The price of the vehicle is going to be the biggest stumbling block, because we come back to the old argument about the variation in price depending on the country you are in.
I was wondering if anyone else would like to suggest their own particular price/range requirements before they would consider changing?
For new cars I am pretty confident those two criteria will never be hit 😢
Well done very interesting brill vid
Thanks 👍
Looking forward to more pure Mini EVs!
How long do those zappis last till you have to replace them?
Still going strong 💪
Good one! Do you need 3 phase installed for this to work? Does it cater for all EVs?
The Zappi will work on both single and three phase, and does most EV's on the market so long as they've got a Type 2 socket
If you have the untethered zappi you can charge a type 1 and a type 2 EV 😌
No 3 phase needed for this. It will charge at 7kw/h. If you had 3 phase that would increase to 22 👍
@@PetrolPed For clarity ... it's a different Zappi model that has to be installed for 3 phase. And very few EVs are capable of taking advantage of that 22kW. Even a Tesla Model 3 maxes out at 11kW on AC charging. Still a useful increase in speed if you have the option (and if charging multiple vehicles).
How much did it cost? It'd be helpful to know the price of each individual component required, and the installation time and cost.
The install cost can vary a lot depending on what cabling is needed etc. Average cost of charger and instal would be about £1000 not including any government subsidy 👍
@@PetrolPed £1000 buys a lot of fuel! Another barrier to mass EV uptake/adoption 🤨
@@markcole1473 - There are cheaper EV chargers available. My PodPoint was £500 after the grant.
Hi, would you provide update with Zappy software experience? After a year is it really working as stated? Did you have any message on car dash board contradicting Zappy app? Will really appreciate if you provide update. Thanks
Maz
Interesting install
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
My pleasure 👍
Is the back of the barn south facing as my house is if it is south facing then your solars panels will be in the sunshine the most of the day usually 8-12 hours
It would certainly get a lot of sun 👍
Evening everyone.
Hi 👋
Hi mate 🙋♂️
Amazing how much different an American panel box is
Interesting 🤔
Thanks Pedro. Did you ever get the smart meter or solar panel or change the octopus tariff to agility? All the best. Simon.
Hi Mate
Yep I’ve got the smart meter now, just need to change the tariff. Solar panels and power wall in early stages of planning. Will be fitted next year 👍
@@PetrolPed good morning sir. Hope you are well. Thank you for the reply. Does power wall suggest a Tesla model Y or roadster might be coming your way?
No, not for the moment. It’s just a good way to store the energy from the PVs on the roof 👍
@@PetrolPed please can you put me in touch with the electrician?
Are you still on Agile? Rates seem to be pegged at 35p atm 😢
Very informative
Thanks 👍
Nice 👍 install,,,,mate,,, how much cost the install ? The labour ?
Best to allow £1000 for the full install 👍
Hi Pete
Great video mate and very interesting too 👍👍👍👍
Thanks bud 👍
Just another way to install a smart meter I have already told my supplier that I don't want a smart meter which they said no problem.
Why would you not want a smart meter 🤷♂️
Oh, I forgot to add........I can finally hear voices ! The sound is now certified great !
Had my white V2 Zappi installed back in Dec 19 before my MG ZS EV arrived on 1st Mar 20 although as I could prove I had a car on order I received the £500 Gov grant as it was back then. Have you bought an electric car yet Ped?
No but I’ve had a couple of electric press cars since and having a charger makes that much easier 👍
Does the Hub come included with the charger?
No it’s extra
You need an SPD in that consumer unit with an EV charger
Hi Peds 👌
Hi 🙋♂️
Is it clever enough (with appropriate wiring) to charge a car straight from PV when there's a power cut in the local distribution network?
And does it have a "dumb" fail-safe mode. Say if the hub dies or the software suffers from the equivalent of a "blue screen of death"?
I've worked in I.T. for 40 years and I'm extremely wary of new software.
VW's Id.3 software for example....
Hi Pete
Hi 🙋♂️
Based on this just got a quote from Octopus energy, saving £40 a month 😄
Awesome to hear 👍
Unless you have an EV all the time I should think you may end up just using it to charge when you need to charge rather than worrying about setting up set economic charging regimes. If you are coordinating sources of power generation and using clever coordinated tariffs then the Zappi is a great tool but in practice all EVs have the capability to time their charging so a basic box is all many people will need. Even with the grant it's not cheap! (I know, I've got one too.)
Talking of Vintage voltage, any news on series 2?
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Great now for full testing of your mates ev Ferrari conversion. 😁
Oh yes. Must sort that out 👍
1)(1:55 sec) Canisters of biscuits and cake and the electrician didn't go for them....what's his problem ?
2) (14:06 sec) In Canada (Québec) electricity costs (0.0427 cents Cad kwh) or (0.026p UK/kwh) ! I understand the folks (who, by the way, drive on the wrong side of the road.......I thought I'd slip that in😉)....in the UK you pay something like 18.4p/kwh ! ! Wow ! That is expensive !
3) (14:19 sec) Solar panels and UK (oxymoronic)...........that's like saying sun with UK in the same sentence.........I heard that in the UK it's either cloudy, covered, misty, foggy or rainy but sunny ? Free electricity ! in the UK ? That was certainly funny.....well I found it funny !
And finally, in all seriousness, your electricity tariffs are unbelievably complicated and costly as hell ! Here (Québec, Canada) an electrician will install an EV charging station pedestal for outside parking or a wall unit in a garage or shed or carport. Most have cellphone connection but only for time schedules (charge status, time to start and time left) You just plug in the car and that's it ! It's the same tariff all day/night. Some communities offer rebates for a residential installations.
Interesting video, as always ! Thanks.
You do not realise how tempting it was and I had to use all of my willpower to not plunder the cake tin, plus having a camera following your every move is quite a deterrent...
@@kevy427 To hell with the camera....to hell with willpower ! I would plunder mercilessly and slaughter every cookie or cake that should cross my path ! ........then, with a cup of tea, no, I prefer coffee, I would install the wiring. There is no shame in a lack of willpower, and showing no mercy and enjoying cookies and cake ! Slaughtering, on the other hand, might not be that popular with the general public.
Thanks and have a great day.
Great! So anytime I'm passing through on the A27, I can drop in for a free charge?
Ah, I don't own an electric car either, and have never driven one.. 😐
😂😂😂
@@PetrolPed Heh, I should have said free of charge charge! 😅
Still none the wiser what the Harvi does. Can someone please translate?
It reports to the Zappi the electric consumption of the house. It connect to the supply tail coming into the distribution box 👍
I didn't know grannies needed charging.
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Not sure why he was wearing a Hat in the first place there was no sun and he was inside under cover ,,,, still he looked "COOL" COOL DUDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
New channel Electric Ped ⚡️ are we going to see an electric mini or something bigger ?
Maybe 🤔
What is typically the cost of installing a car charging point?
Lots of variables to consider so costs do vary; cable run from the charger to the board, whether any trenching is needed, type of cable used (SWA, NYY-J, T&E) depending on the environment, earthing system (although that doesn't affect the Zappi), main cut-out fuse rating, if there are any spare ways on the distribution board (DB), does the existing DB need upgrading to suit, existing electrical load in the property...so you could be looking at a couple of hours to a day to install
Then there's the charger you choose as there are so many on the market, each with their good and bad points. The ones offered by the big utility companies aren't particularly good, neither are those which sound like a posh watch. Look for one with built-in PEN fault detection as that means there's no need for an earth rod to be installed which adds an additional expense along with the risk of hitting underground services when it's being installed
A pretty vague answer for you but under £1000 will get a good charger and its installation
Great answer from kevy427 and he installed it 😜👍
who is that Masked electrician????
Not sure but he can’t sing 😂😂😂
Great video and really useful - my charger is a dumb one, but the real cost was getting the wiring sorted between the house and the garage.
I was lucky on that count 👍
It can get expensive if you have to bury cables. If you don't need to bury them it shouldn't be a big cost. I'm afraid the truth is that there are many EV installers who are making a lot of money ... that grant gets swallowed up very quickly!
Pete I think Ruby has had some major moggy surgery and she has
Had a Tesla motor installed 👍😂
Damn...well spotted 😂
First! Evening all! Happy Monday! How’s everyone doing?
Hi 👋
@@coltoncleveringa8004 Evening! How’s things?
@@francoisg3500 doing ok making a lifestyle change and I’m getting back into bodybuilding how are you doing!
@@coltoncleveringa8004 I'm good thanks! Interesting!
Hi Francois 👋 it was electrifying today.
It's a proper faff all this electric vehicle shenanigans. I've got a smart meter, but it's not new enough to be used by a new provider so needs swapping for a newer one. I'll stick to the fossil fuel for a while yet.
So you can test drive a Tesla now?
Maybe 🤔 😜