What other 11 win team had 12 different versions of their O-line last season? And that's on Chris Grier because he literally laughed at fans that were concerned about the O-line going into last season.
Tua deserves another year to develop. His development over the past 2 years earns him a shot to develop further next season. It might be smart from both sides to wait a year before signing Tua's next deal. Tua needs to prove he can carry the team through adversity and the Fins shouldn't commit to Tua long-term if this season is his peak level of performance.
Miami had beaten Buffalo at least once a year for two or three years. Also Baltimore two years in a row before this year. Y'all acting like only last year makes a stat true.
2023 Season - Dolphins lost to the Bills both times. Lost to the Ravens as well. 2022 Season - Dolphins beat the Bills 21-19 thanks to the BIlls screwing up in both two minute warning drives that results in their OC infamousily losing his marbles on national television in a week 3 game. Bills won the rematch and the playoff game. As for the Ravens, the Dolphins won by 4 points after the Ravens lay a big egg and give up the lead. Nevermind the small print that the Ravens defense oddly were severely depleted in a week 2 game but the even smaller print - that was only the 2nd game that the league saw the new revamped Miami Dolphins offense with Hill and Waddle teamed up together. That brief moment in 2022, Week 2 and Week 3 is what Tua supporters still hold their hats to - going into 3 years later now...
@@The_Zilli nothing you said differs from what I said. So what's your point? I'm not holding on to anything. I'm simply pointing out that one year where Miami did lose to almost all teams with a winning record doesn't mean they always do.
@@nonamephinsyt Exactly. Take away the fluke TD pass and the 101 yard punt return TD and a DEPLETED Dolphins team wins the winner take all AFC East Championship game. But I'm sure that was all Tua's fault. And I'm probably a Tuaneer for telling the truth.
Miami has beaten Josh Allen exactly twice in 6 years. TWICE. Buffalo & Allen have absolutely owned Miami, even more so this year when the Bills weee the most injured team in the NFL.
"People are talking about trading Waddle..." Wasn't that just our former idiot GM? The same guy that when he was running the team traded Jarvis Landry for peanuts...
He’s also the guy that signed Suh to a massive contract that did very little to improve the defense. Add in older players that drained our salary cap needlessly. A disaster by any other name.
When the offensive play comes in late its a trickle down from Tua to the offensive line & receivers. Tua doesn't have the time on the play clock to elevate the defense & make any adjustments. Then the offensive line has problems with their blocking assignments to receivers running the wrong routes. And more. Get the play in & allow the offense at least 15 seconds to see, react, & attack. One off many issues.
Connor Williams if he isn't coming back Miami needs to draft Jackson Powers Johnson & Christian Haynes to fill needs on the o-line. After those two I say go after some d-line players.
Well they came back and beat the Ravens in 2022, beat buffalo that year once so they can beat good teams but I Believe it's more then just the team the coach calling plays has to play to the strengths I mean when you abandon the run when you got 8 carries for 56 yards and not run the ball the entire second half that's a problem or going for a fourth and 1 minus going for the points which hurts also
THIS MESSAGE IS FOR Mike McDaniel Head Coach of Miami Dolphins. Well this year in 2024 draft your team needs to draft a Big Set WR at the 3 spot.. and my choice is Brian Thomas Jr. #11 at LSU ...Yes in deed 😌 no cap this is what our team needs next year for the Big O. Brian Thomas Jr. Is perfect 👌 he at 6'5 weight in at 205 and had a BREAK OUT YEAR AT LSU.. He's Big physical and gives these small CB a hard time to cover him and is great at the 3 spot at Wr... his blocking is very good for screen plays and run plays and gives the QB a third options for short yardage and most definitely a big threat in the red zone with his big size... miami dolphins shouldn't let this opportunity slip if available on the broad on draft day... Don't let your opps get this ... or be hurt if they do... Brian Thomas Jr. LSU ..WR 6'5 205 Check the highlight tape. ✌️
I would trade Tua to Atlanta he would fit better in NFC South over AFC East. Unless you get home field you be playing cold weather teams. You get 8th over all this year and trade up if you have doubts and take Penix.
We struggle against good teams because we don’t have good enough QB to do what a good QB does without his #1 or #2 receiver… Times up for Tua in my opinion.
A dream would be to get Powers Johnson in the first round. And resign Williams as well as hunt. Then you could have them have two interchangeable centers that are both also great guards to go with hunt and fill up the center of the line with Jackson and armstead being the bookends
Let him play his 5th year and if it doesn't work out then hes got to go.... he will cost way to much and we will have to reset in one to many ways... at that point its a prove it season and if it doesnt pan out we need to can Grier and start over and find a qb for the future to build around thats not going to demand top 5 qb money and has been injuried too much and still hasn't gotten us a playoff win in over 25 years damn near. If we rebuild we rebuild at the qb position and gm/ coaches/ players etc... this is going to be an interesting year ! Hope the fins can prove us fans wrong.. been to many years !!
Mike’s offense needs a QB who can accurately, on time, and with great leverage throw the ball DOWNFIELD. Fins to select Micheal Penix Jr. Film shows Tyreek Hill constantly stopping and waiting for pass. Penix allows WR to run through defender. Great pocket presence. But can’t run outside like Tua. Gets hurt. Yin and Yang. Trade Tua to Minnesota.They sign him. Dolphins draft Penix for the beginning of second rebuild. Beat good teams.
@@vivM.5497 dolphin fans are delusional. Tua cant even beat josh allen will never beat mahomes. Football is all about the bowl We need to cut the fat guy and go for fields or pennix
Dolphins have the oldest roster, they have no choice but to blow it up as Tua clearly isnt worth building around even if the roster wasn't the oldest in the league. Dolphins will do the Dolphin thing and re-sign Tua and continue another 4 to 5 years of being subpar.
@@basdfef4775Wow, you named 4 players *claps* And then proceeded to lie about Tua being top PFF - Dated Feb 20, 2024 - PFF has Allen #1, Mahomes 2, Lamar 3, Dak 4, Stafford 5, Brock 6, Tua they listed as 7th. Then again the same PFF has Tua above Stroud, Herbert, Love, Burrow (LOL), Tevor...now that we've established that not only you were full of shit but also that no one in their right mind would take Tua over Burrow, Love, Herbert, Stroud LOL. Oh, and that's why even Joel Klatts, one of Tua's biggest defenders and supporters coming out of college now has the Dolphins drafting a new QB at 21. *smh* STFU and go away with your stpidity.
@@vivM.5497 That bar is really low over the past 20 years is it not? So is that what we're using now as a gauge to see if someone is a franchise QB - if they're better than who, Ryan Tannehill? A former Wide Receiver converted into a QB? Or perhaps Fitz, a 20 plus year old vet on his final legs? The "Tua is the best" you've had argument is weak. Comparing sh*t to sh*t is still sh*t.
@@vivM.5497 that's why even the professionals are now having the Dolphins drafting a QB at 21. Because Tua has been so good that even the pros themselves like Shannon Sharpe, Joel Klatts, Chris Long and many others all have seen enough but apparently those guys dont know wtf they're talking about but you do. I see. Oh, could you name me something that Tua has accomplished in two years other than "stats" and winning meaningless week 2 and week 3 games?
Trending in the right direction under McDaniel??? Flores may have struggled, but at least the team seemed to be able to win a tough game on occasion. With McDaniel there has been nothing but complete collapse when the need was greatest. I think the team is just a mess and see no possible way they will be better next year losing so many defensive players. If they win 7 or 8 games next year, I think that will be a miracle. This team is one of the most poorly run/performing team of the whole NFL. Fans may be waiting forever for this team to win anything.... I hope they prove me wrong but it doesn't look great.
Miami beat New England consistently when they won or went to the chip every damn year. Miami had years where they beat both teams that made it to the superbowl in the regular season. This “can’t beat good teams” take is weak, lazy and irrelevant.
Just saw this. But Wilkins is now the 2nd highest paid DT in the league. That is why Miami is not resigning him wanting that kind of money. But good for him for getting paid. Just glad it wasn't us at that price. Miami 5 million in cap space inflating 18.5 more with X;s post June 1st cut coming off. So looks like the dolphins know what they are doing cap wise.
Agree trade Tua for picks and draft penxi jr I kno bout his injuries history but the last 2 year he be healthy n he does everything Tua does with a strong arm n extend plays with his legs deep ball only thing Tua got on him is nfl experience
Dolphins struggle against good teams because the Dolphin’s weakness are the trenches and good teams own the line of scrimmage. It’s pretty simple.
And Tua only look to throw the ball to hill only
@@luattran6205 combination of trying to get Hill 2k and Waddle being out so the only other Wr to get open in under 2 secs is Hill.
100% I’d also say the trenches on defense was good enough this year. Damn shame the Oline was injured and Tua stayed healthy
What other 11 win team had 12 different versions of their O-line last season? And that's on Chris Grier because he literally laughed at fans that were concerned about the O-line going into last season.
@@clarkhartman796 exactly.
28 injured players and 12 different offensive line combinations did not help
28 is a pretty average number, it's the 12 o-line combos is absolutely a killer, and the injuries to key players at key moments certainly did not help
Kendal Lamm as swing tackle has been more than serviceable and Jackson has been good.
Yes not taking league min. But definitely would add Lamb just for Armstead injury history
Agree. They really didn’t give A. Jackson his flowers for a breakout season and K. Lamm was more than serviceable filling in for Armstead
Tua deserves another year to develop. His development over the past 2 years earns him a shot to develop further next season. It might be smart from both sides to wait a year before signing Tua's next deal. Tua needs to prove he can carry the team through adversity and the Fins shouldn't commit to Tua long-term if this season is his peak level of performance.
Man shut up lol. He doesn't need to prove anything. He's not a finished product. I can also guarantee he has been better than you expected
Tua will get a big contract extension soon. Get over it already
@@jamelwilliams1144Not against playoff teamns he wasn't.
Why so serious
He’s had time to Develop. Times up.
Miami had beaten Buffalo at least once a year for two or three years. Also Baltimore two years in a row before this year. Y'all acting like only last year makes a stat true.
2023 Season - Dolphins lost to the Bills both times. Lost to the Ravens as well.
2022 Season - Dolphins beat the Bills 21-19 thanks to the BIlls screwing up in both two minute warning drives that results in their OC infamousily losing his marbles on national television in a week 3 game. Bills won the rematch and the playoff game. As for the Ravens, the Dolphins won by 4 points after the Ravens lay a big egg and give up the lead. Nevermind the small print that the Ravens defense oddly were severely depleted in a week 2 game but the even smaller print - that was only the 2nd game that the league saw the new revamped Miami Dolphins offense with Hill and Waddle teamed up together.
That brief moment in 2022, Week 2 and Week 3 is what Tua supporters still hold their hats to - going into 3 years later now...
@@The_Zilli nothing you said differs from what I said. So what's your point? I'm not holding on to anything. I'm simply pointing out that one year where Miami did lose to almost all teams with a winning record doesn't mean they always do.
@@nonamephinsyt Exactly. Take away the fluke TD pass and the 101 yard punt return TD and a DEPLETED Dolphins team wins the winner take all AFC East Championship game. But I'm sure that was all Tua's fault. And I'm probably a Tuaneer for telling the truth.
Miami has beaten Josh Allen exactly twice in 6 years. TWICE. Buffalo & Allen have absolutely owned Miami, even more so this year when the Bills weee the most injured team in the NFL.
@chetjablonski1993 Agree with everything but the injured part. When Muami played Buffalo in the season finale they were down way more players.
Dolphins season was derailed by an obscene number of injuries last year. Key for them is simply not losing half their players to injury.
"People are talking about trading Waddle..." Wasn't that just our former idiot GM? The same guy that when he was running the team traded Jarvis Landry for peanuts...
thank god he was fired
He’s also the guy that signed Suh to a massive contract that did very little to improve the defense. Add in older players that drained our salary cap needlessly. A disaster by any other name.
When the offensive play comes in late its a trickle down from Tua to the offensive line & receivers. Tua doesn't have the time on the play clock to elevate the defense & make any adjustments. Then the offensive line has problems with their blocking assignments to receivers running the wrong routes. And more. Get the play in & allow the offense at least 15 seconds to see, react, & attack. One off many issues.
Connor Williams if he isn't coming back Miami needs to draft Jackson Powers Johnson & Christian Haynes to fill needs on the o-line. After those two I say go after some d-line players.
I want them to get a veteran true center & move Conner to his rightful position. That would be huge because Hunt is as solid as they come.
Well they came back and beat the Ravens in 2022, beat buffalo that year once so they can beat good teams but I Believe it's more then just the team the coach calling plays has to play to the strengths I mean when you abandon the run when you got 8 carries for 56 yards and not run the ball the entire second half that's a problem or going for a fourth and 1 minus going for the points which hurts also
These guys highlighted more issues than they fixed
THIS MESSAGE IS FOR Mike McDaniel Head Coach of Miami Dolphins.
Well this year in 2024 draft your team needs to draft a Big Set WR at the 3 spot.. and my choice is Brian Thomas Jr. #11 at LSU ...Yes in deed 😌 no cap this is what our team needs next year for the Big O.
Brian Thomas Jr. Is perfect 👌 he at 6'5 weight in at 205 and had a BREAK OUT YEAR AT LSU.. He's Big physical and gives these small CB a hard time to cover him and is great at the 3 spot at Wr... his blocking is very good for screen plays and run plays and gives the QB a third options for short yardage and most definitely a big threat in the red zone with his big size... miami dolphins shouldn't let this opportunity slip if available on the broad on draft day... Don't let your opps get this ... or be hurt if they do...
Brian Thomas Jr. LSU ..WR
6'5 205
Check the highlight tape.
✌️
I would trade Tua to Atlanta he would fit better in NFC South over AFC East. Unless you get home field you be playing cold weather teams. You get 8th over all this year and trade up if you have doubts and take Penix.
We struggle against good teams because we don’t have good enough QB to do what a good QB does without his #1 or #2 receiver… Times up for Tua in my opinion.
Kendall Lamb was awesome backing armstead
A dream would be to get Powers Johnson in the first round. And resign Williams as well as hunt. Then you could have them have two interchangeable centers that are both also great guards to go with hunt and fill up the center of the line with Jackson and armstead being the bookends
Agreed. I would add Christian Haynes from UCONN in the draft to the o-line
Let him play his 5th year and if it doesn't work out then hes got to go.... he will cost way to much and we will have to reset in one to many ways... at that point its a prove it season and if it doesnt pan out we need to can Grier and start over and find a qb for the future to build around thats not going to demand top 5 qb money and has been injuried too much and still hasn't gotten us a playoff win in over 25 years damn near. If we rebuild we rebuild at the qb position and gm/ coaches/ players etc... this is going to be an interesting year ! Hope the fins can prove us fans wrong.. been to many years !!
They need to trade Chubb, Waddle, Ramsey, Phillips, Armstead for draft picks. They need an entire OL and need to make a decision on Tua long term.
Mike’s offense needs a QB who can accurately, on time, and with great leverage throw the ball DOWNFIELD. Fins to select Micheal Penix Jr. Film shows Tyreek Hill constantly stopping and waiting for pass. Penix allows WR to run through defender. Great pocket presence. But can’t run outside like Tua. Gets hurt. Yin and Yang. Trade Tua to Minnesota.They sign him. Dolphins draft Penix for the beginning of second rebuild. Beat good teams.
You beat good teams by getting to play them at home more.
They need a new quarterback. Baby arm tua isnt going to cut it
Dont care what you think herbert fan
Love has passed Tua & Herbert
He may be a mid QB but he led the to 11-6 and a playoff game that’s more than a whole lot of teams got
@@chetjablonski1993
Herbert will rebound quickly under Harbaugh.
Miami has a Buffalo/Josh Allen problem. Until they fix that, they are a fringe WC team at best.
Miami needs a Qb
we have a qb, he needs to grow a pair
They have one
You guys should really have some more hope in your team
Dude on the right is 💯a Dolphins hater (even bro on the right is trying to stop his bs) I hate to say but and I will no longer sub or watch ur PFF 💩.
Dude on the left
yeah, they are a fan of the other three teams in the AFC East lol
I had to stop listening after 5 minutes. Everyone KNOWS what they didn't do! Same old hash rehash conversation just to fill TH-cam air. SMH.
Cut tua
We're not cutting tua , so go find a new team if you don't like it
@@vivM.5497 dolphin fans are delusional. Tua cant even beat josh allen will never beat mahomes. Football is all about the bowl We need to cut the fat guy and go for fields or pennix
That would literally be the stupidest thing they can do rn
Dolphins have the oldest roster, they have no choice but to blow it up as Tua clearly isnt worth building around even if the roster wasn't the oldest in the league. Dolphins will do the Dolphin thing and re-sign Tua and continue another 4 to 5 years of being subpar.
Tua Is the best quarterback you video tad in twenty years
@@basdfef4775Wow, you named 4 players *claps* And then proceeded to lie about Tua being top PFF - Dated Feb 20, 2024 -
PFF has Allen #1, Mahomes 2, Lamar 3, Dak 4, Stafford 5, Brock 6, Tua they listed as 7th.
Then again the same PFF has Tua above Stroud, Herbert, Love, Burrow (LOL), Tevor...now that we've established that not only you were full of shit but also that no one in their right mind would take Tua over Burrow, Love, Herbert, Stroud LOL. Oh, and that's why even Joel Klatts, one of Tua's biggest defenders and supporters coming out of college now has the Dolphins drafting a new QB at 21. *smh* STFU and go away with your stpidity.
@@vivM.5497 That bar is really low over the past 20 years is it not? So is that what we're using now as a gauge to see if someone is a franchise QB - if they're better than who, Ryan Tannehill? A former Wide Receiver converted into a QB? Or perhaps Fitz, a 20 plus year old vet on his final legs? The "Tua is the best" you've had argument is weak. Comparing sh*t to sh*t is still sh*t.
@chriszilli9717 only to guys that are stupid.tua has done good past 2 years.its never good enough for ya.but tua is the qb nothing you can do bout it
@@vivM.5497 that's why even the professionals are now having the Dolphins drafting a QB at 21. Because Tua has been so good that even the pros themselves like Shannon Sharpe, Joel Klatts, Chris Long and many others all have seen enough but apparently those guys dont know wtf they're talking about but you do. I see. Oh, could you name me something that Tua has accomplished in two years other than "stats" and winning meaningless week 2 and week 3 games?
Trending in the right direction under McDaniel??? Flores may have struggled, but at least the team seemed to be able to win a tough game on occasion. With McDaniel there has been nothing but complete collapse when the need was greatest. I think the team is just a mess and see no possible way they will be better next year losing so many defensive players. If they win 7 or 8 games next year, I think that will be a miracle. This team is one of the most poorly run/performing team of the whole NFL. Fans may be waiting forever for this team to win anything.... I hope they prove me wrong but it doesn't look great.
Miami beat New England consistently when they won or went to the chip every damn year. Miami had years where they beat both teams that made it to the superbowl in the regular season. This “can’t beat good teams” take is weak, lazy and irrelevant.
The critics refer to last year. Not Dolphins history.
@@c2jones it’s lazy
@@GuccVarucc
It's not. It's the truth. You going back to the past is the lazy take.
@@c2jones basing it off one year with out looking at the context is lazy.
@@GuccVarucc
The narrative is only for one year. That was, and remains the only point.
Just saw this. But Wilkins is now the 2nd highest paid DT in the league. That is why Miami is not resigning him wanting that kind of money. But good for him for getting paid. Just glad it wasn't us at that price. Miami 5 million in cap space inflating 18.5 more with X;s post June 1st cut coming off. So looks like the dolphins know what they are doing cap wise.
The cap is higher, so this discussion was pointless
Trade tua for a haul of picks and sign wentz until we draft a franchise quarterback
Agree trade Tua for picks and draft penxi jr I kno bout his injuries history but the last 2 year he be healthy n he does everything Tua does with a strong arm n extend plays with his legs deep ball only thing Tua got on him is nfl experience
@basdfef4775 yeah all against sorry team go look at his stat when against team above 500
Who is trading a bunch of picks for Tua? You guys are crazy.