This Is The Most Ruthless INEOS Decision At Man Utd
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- INEOS have cut Sir Alex Ferguson's ambassadorial and director contract at Manchester United in what is one of the most ruthless decisions they've made so far.
What's your honest take on the decision? Is it right or wrong?
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INEOS have cut Sir Alex Ferguson's ambassadorial and director contract at Manchester United in what is one of the most ruthless decisions they've made so far.
What's your honest take on the decision? Is it right or wrong?
I think it's time for him to retire
Think he and his sons have made enough money out of utd
It's the right decision. We're not a charity. SAF is wealthy beyond our imaginations, he doesn't need to trouser millions extra a year for a role he doesn't really do anymore.
What does a club ambassador do, anyways? Fergie is 82 y.o., if he has any actual responsibilities inside the club then it is the right time to pass them to someone younger and enjoy his retirement as the club's biggest legend by a mile.
well speaking from someone with high connections at Utd, Richard brought back Alex and David, alongside Robbo, made up the Advisory Board, Alex has and always will have the freedom of the club, will never change... We have several Global Ambassdors anyway including Beano, Robbo, I think Wessier is one too and since this summer Mata is onboard too, Alex was never a Director at Utd on any offical capacity anyway, those yoks across in States never or would ever have it. Jim was right though in his decision, Alex will be 84 and with his past life theatening health, it's the right call.
on accounts well Sam, I don't think you know the true debt period, way way more that you think, we're talking B's hidden away in a portfolio, you do realise those yoks borrowed yet again of Bank of America to pay of the 1st Share loan of 3 that expired end of June, was around 240/50 mark, first of 3 that makes up the so called offical debt on the books.
On the publicaly realised 1/4 reports, they ain't and never have been true figures, why, cause they need to be Audited by a 3rd party Chartered Accountant, hence if you go back and look at any, all marked as Unaudited, only Company Hse, major Class A and all Class B, The SEC (for forseeable few years) hopefully the plans will work, will received it.
If he was banned from the club then i'd be absolutely livid, but he doesn't need paying multi-millions on a yearly basis.
All anti Ineos and Manchester United agenda.
It may be an amicable decision. Ferguson isn't getting any younger.
@@HalftimeOranges328 of course he’s not banned. He’s not a hooligan lol.
The removal of the 250 staff is more ruthless than removing the role of a wealthy 82 year old set for life, no matter whether it is Fergie. I also think this has nothing to do with the current managerial role / issue
but same time hired like 5-7 new directors
Mad how many kids are ignorant of how everything we are today, as a super club is because of SAF.
Not 250 admin staff and merch sellers.
@@GordyB666 People think the letting the hotdog go is bigger than getting rid of SAF lmao
SAF is always there with a heavy shadow looking back to the past. The club needs to move on from past glory and look forward to future success. If it means SAF leaving then needs must. Wasn't it him who said "No-one is bigger than the club "
Well said, my sentiments exactly. He should stay away or at least in the background.
I believe he set the wheels in motion that lead us to where we are now.
Exactly!!!
Well said mate! Well said
Can't blame Fergie for the crap show surely
Considering many staff lost their jobs, its only right someone highly paid for not much work (due to age) is let go.
In my opinion it is morally abysmal to keep paying someone 2 million pounds a year, for essentially doing nothing, while 25% of the staff was sacked due to financial reasons.
It's being blown out of all proportion, He will still be a VIP of the club and will still be in the fold watching from the VIP section and attending club functions with the INEOS Board, He's just been relieved of his duties and Fergie will probably be happy with his lot and can finally relax like one of his race horses in retirement, I just hope he lives to see UTD lift the prem in the next few years now that would be a sight to behold. Always a Legend of the Club.
Totally agree. I’m sure Sir Alex Ferguson is very happy to step down as like you said he is 82 years old. He always be Man U legend
I think it's a good move. SAF's legend isn't going to be diminished because of his absence. On the contrary, United could possibly grow more by moving away from SAF's shadow.
Would Liverpool want Kenny Daglish on a salary and lingering around? Would Arsenal want Wenger on the board making decisions and on a salary when hes already a multi millionaire? Its a business decision that makes sense.
Yes, but Wenger was a specialist in failure, and Kenny a funny little man.
Now that they have let SAF go, no one can complain they're being treated unfairly.
How’s that?
Next one to go are Rashford, Antony and Shaw.
Why not. The ridiculousness would be the same
The way Ineos are going about stripping costs out of the club is exactly the way a private equity firm does it when they take over a new business. These are bitter pills to swallow, but pills nonetheless. If Ineos feels SAF can bring additional value to the club that justifies a salary, they will bring him back with that specific role. We can't expect change while everything remains the same- and the first team magically starts playing great football and our balance sheet magically sheds all debt. These are hard but necessary calls.
I agree with ineos
Club gotta be run like a business
Not family business
If u want to b loved by everyone sell ice cream don’t do business
Gotta draw lines
Are you for real..??
Look at the absolute gash we've just spent a fortune on..
We're f ukd
@Align500pro Please elaborate?
Not really. SAF has more than enough money.
Good! Glad to see some ruthlessness at United again. That's the Fergie way, winning at all cost!
Exactly! People seem to forget that it was him that brought to the Glazers too! Thanks for the memories Sir Alex but it's your turn to follow Keane, Stam, Ince, Beckham etc..
@@ClarionCawwjust cos he invited them in doesnt mean hes accountable for the years of mismanagement n leeching. Still, its an unnecessary cost imo that has been saved. The ultimate surgery would be removing the head of the snake
winning at all cost brother we employ a man whos ruined one of the best no 10s in the world
@@gingermarshy007 he has been paid by the head of the snake for years since retirement. A hush payment, kind of like every NDA each sacked manager has had to sign. Nah, had to go and grateful for the memories but we need to move on
@@ClarionCawwhe’s not responsible for the
Glazers
INEOS cuttings jobs across the board is far more ruthless than cutting Fergie's few million every year payment.
Fergie is set financially and lets be honest, there's no need for UTD to be paying him millions every year.
Cuts happen with takeovers, and I'm glad INEOS are making the big decisions to make UTD great again (to borrow a popular phrase).
How can you carry that much debt and not seek to cut costs. The Glazers business acumen is horrendous
I've been saying for ages, we will never move forward as a club while Fergie still has influence. That's not a dig at Fergie, he's the best thing to ever happen to the club, but football has changed since the days of Fergie
Now they can finally bring in Roy Keane as an assistant manager to shake up that locker room and hold players accountable.
No. These players would crumble to his pressure 😭. Some might even get a 3 months injury 🤣
@@Tinxbay If you don't want to be a winner then don't play for Manchester United. It's been too long without a Premier League trophy, so they players either have to step up or get out.
That hard man stuff worked wonders at Sunderland?😂 Roy Keane is just a ghost from the past like Garry Neville , they make horrible coaches and great pundits
@@joshuakithyoma9575 Got them from the bottom of the league to promotion to the Premier League in the same season, then kept them in the league. I think it did work in Sunderland.
A billionaire sacking a multimillionaire?!?!? How will SAF keep the heat on this winter?? This is an absurd story. Time to move on from the past.
It's business, not personal.
If Man Utd are to move onto better things and reshape into a different club then they do have to also move on from Fergie and everything he stood for as a manager and take a different direction. Bitter pill to swallow but necessary!
Your effort is obvious!
Ruthless ??? What are you talking about 🤬🤬 they made 200 people redundant so how can you say removing Fergie as an ambassador is ruthless ?? He’s a multi millionaire for gods sake.
The words “ruthless” and “united” should never be used in the same sentence.
They sold United's soul SAF....❤
Fergie's presence at the games is enough for me. I didn't even know he had a position. Hope ETH can see that he isn't immortal
It's hard but I guess to move forward someone need to make hard decisions
Mate stop glazzing Ineos. This was a shite decision. This is embarrasing, SAF is the sole reason united has the ability to generate this much revenue. He is the reason the brand is what it is. The 2 million he got was nothing in comparison to what he did for this club. Small club move, say what you want and glaze Ineos but that was poor decision making. I didnt become Man Utd to see them treat people in their team like that.
I've no problem with this whatsoever. It's not as if SAF is poor is it when he's a multi millionaire. Us fans wanted to see ruthlessness & know we're seeing it all these changes being made all this cost cutting I see many folk pissing & moaning about it. I've seen many folk saying it's disrespecting Fergie blah blah & yet it was all amicably agreed between all parties that it should be done. To many it's controversial I completely get that but remember SAF agreed to it aswell so it's not as if INEOS went behind SAF's back is it???
True.
In no way shape or form is cutting the millions they pay Sir Alex Ferguson ruthless. Ruthless is cutting 25% of the work force. Having Sir Alex on that money while not actively contributing to the club would have been a slap in the face to those who lost their jobs or were potentially going to lose their job if they didn't find ways to cut costs.
I wonder if the people cheering the 'ruthlessness' of Ineos will be in a similar frame of mind when they increase ticket prices for supporters? Sadly, I suspect it's an inevitability.
Strange for him to notice that they're trimming the soul of the club when the Glazers have been trying to kill it for more than a decade.
He will always be the ultimate ambassador for Manchester United
Listen, I don't want Fergie on the board or as an ambassador either, Fergie should really just be retired but I would rather have Fergie in that role till the day he dies than have this guy in the managerial job for another millisecond.
Sacking fergie before Ten Hag is a crime against humanity😔
"Let's get rid of the one person who knows anything about football in the club", seems like a good idea to me. As I'm looking at this, I'm remembering when Benfica sacked Eusébio from their ranks in the late 90s. Actions from desperate people who know nothing about what they're doing. Time will take care of showing this in two ways: either Man Utd bounces back in 10 years (yes lads, it's gonna be that long) under someone else's leadership, or when we're watching Man Utd in the Championship...
Here We Go, making a mountain out of a molehill. More division fueled by our flip flop section of fans.
Man Utd, founded by an extremely wealthy businessman, gifted the countries largest stadium, bought titles in the first few years of existence. They're recognised as one of the biggest clubs in the world and rightly so, but without huge outside investment 120 years ago they'd struggled to have even been an Oldham Athletic.
I’m not sure about this one. Even though it’s a big salary, if Man Utd only were to have one ambassador, it’d be Fergie. He is the single most important figure at the club since Busby. It doesn’t sit right with me.
Let’s see where these savings end up being “redirected” to…back into the club or lining the Glazier’s pockets, who, let’s not forget, still own the club. Ineos have it all still to prove.
Yep I'm quite skeptical having seen the Glazers lie to us over the years and seen many a false dawn. Proof will be in the pudding for Ineos.
2 million a year for life for doing nothing - no wonder he never spoke out against the Glazers and always praised them - he's no angel; but was a good manager for which he was very well paid and allowed him to become a multi millionaire.
He honestly is part of the reason the Glazers are at the club in the first place. Just because of a damn racehorse.
@@louisaraiza314 Fergie could have sunk the Glazer takeover easily. The men who lent Glazer the money to purchase the club insisted on continuity of management. Keith Harris and Andy Walsh tried to persuade Fergie to resign which would have killed the Glazer deal and allowed Nomura to take the club over and reinstate Fergie. Fergie did nothing and the rest is history. His reason was the number of staff at United dependent on him for their livelihoods.
How dare they do that to Fergie!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡
Some bull hey Fergie built this club almost single handed
Get all the hangers on off the gravy train.
Time for serious business fools
I think it's disrespect not ruthless
The most useful decision so far,Kudos to ineos
They should not have done this. Leave sir Alex Ferguson's money alone he's earnt every penny.
He's worth over £50m already dude..
You don't see other clubs holding onto old managers out of sentimentality, like Arsenal pretty much kicked Wegner out the door when they were done with him..
@@JoeBob79569 he could be worth 500 million and it wouldn't change anything. Also we're not other clubs, we're man utd. How arsenal and arsenal fans hounded out Wenger was a disgrace so it's no model we should be aspiring towards.
@ryanmwestate that's your problem mate, we were man utd, not anymore, time to grow up kid
@@Align500pro idk which club you support. I support Manchester United, we were we are and always will be Man utd. Take yourself over to Arsenal or City if you can't understand what it means to be united. "Kid"
sam your wrong here SAF is still a non-executive director so hes still getting a wage for being a board member
Fergie took a club from a value of 10,000,000 pounds to billions??? what have the Glazers done????
Best comment I cannot believe this we are done for real now no coming back
The fans wont like this but imagine the message this sends to the players. I think this is a way to make the players realise they can’t rely on the name of Man U to win them games, hasn’t been working. They have to persevere and be mentally strong. I think doing this is almost like a wake up call for those that have been living off the past hype and not doing their jobs properly
What message does it send to the players when they gave a 30 year old dusted Bruno Fernandes a new contract on ridiculous wage. He’s now stinking up the place and we’re stuck with him for another 3-4 years. Lmao! So much for sending a message to the players.
The players just ain't good enough mate, simple as that
This is so cool! I could watch this all day!
Well done ineos no matter what you say, fergie enabled the Glazers
SIR Alex getting behind the glazers and promoting Moyes to succeed him will be a small blot on his legacy imo.
Sir Alex should be an ambassador for life irrespective whether he does anything for the rest of his living days. He is an icon, only one of a kind. If cost cutting is so important, the top management should lead by example by voluntarily trimming their own wages. That’s taking the bull by the horns. Then you don’t have to lay off so much of the work force, after cutting out the deadwood and the excess fat.
Ruthless decision should have been sacking ten hag back in April when it was clear team will not finish top4.
Would have saved lot of those money as well which were invested on eth flop players this season
ETH,flop players this season? we were all told that the new recruitment team bought in the players,in fact every man and his dog said transfers were now out of ETH remit,so Numbskull do enlighten on what the new in place structure actually does?
@@jameshall6061 stop abusing me here because u didn’t like my views, atleast don’t insult other community members if u don’t know how to respect others.
Looking at your comment, u are one of those deluded so called fans who blindly listens to these TH-camrs without looking the situation rationally.
Coming to the point De light, zirkzee are ten hags call, these players were overhyped because ten hag knows only to sign Dutch players or the players played in Dutch league barring few other signings, almost all of his signings are flop and eth can’t even motivate his own team after getting to spend 650 million euros and with 2 full seasons.
It’s crazy people like you think eth is right man to lead this club, so deluded. Anyways it’s ur views so I don’t have any problem like you have on my comment
Sir Jim is doing what needed to be done, he is one ruffless SOB and at his age I doubt that Sir Alex will be losing any sleep over the decision.
as a YT creator... why dont u say the truth??????..... the only thing u have to say is we losing $$$$$ only BECOZ WE LOSING GAMES!!!!!!!!!
A reminder that selective ruthlessness (which is what many fans are indirectly asking for when complaining about this) is favoritism at best and discrimination at worst.
I know about Sir Alex from a CBS Showtime show and became a M-U supporter. He is the cheapest $2M we can spend on our legacy club status.
Let that old guy rest
Can you imagine the scenes if it was Glazers doing this?
Granted had Glazers done this they would 100% only do it to fill their own pockets while the INEOS are trying to cut spending to sort out our horrible financial position.
I read the comments below and I am shocked by how some welcome this decision by INEOS. I feel sorry for you...soon you will regret what you wrote here.
I agree with INEOS here. But its questions how many other ridiculous contracts have we got going on behind the scene
Fair enough. He is absolutely minted, no need to pay the man a huge amount of money per annum following retirement. It also helps the manager without the ghost of Fergie.
This club has lost its soul. I'm a foreign supporter of United since Cantona days. I can't support them as I had in the past.
Bye
@@richyclubsport5155 Ruthless 😅
SAF is United's soul....
They're not ruthless they're tight - there's a difference.
They have no problem keeping a guy bringing us shame on a weekly basis (because it'll cost 16m to get rid of him) but they all of a sudden know how to fire when it comes managers who have brought us glory because it costs money to keep them in their currently role.
If someone told them they could save 50p by sacking EtH he'd be gone by midnight.
Ferguson has had his time. I think it’s right that people aren’t on a ridiculous payroll for life. So many people suffering and fergie isn’t one of em.
Apparently they would have had a long discussion with SAF and have made provisions for him or granted him a pay-out. Can they also cut some of the players salaries too?
The glazers need to be let go not sir Alex.
SJR is Ruthless but Eth even more ruthless with his magical tactical
Fergie must’ve been close to stepping down anyway, he’s 82 ,he’s had a serious medical condition in recent years, he’s wealthy, doesn’t need the money and doesn’t need the stress. Maybe he should’ve been asked quietly to voluntarily stand down from his paid ambassadorial role
Well done INEOS we need to continue making these cost cutting measures, £2 mill per year in the last decade are we just going to carry on paying. We will see the benefits of these measures in a few years leading to a healthy financial position.
Ineos has come in and done the dirty side of business that has been neglected. But lets also not ignore the drop in revenue has to also be tied to performance on the pitch.
Look, Fergie is a legend and always be, but cmon we need to move on from the past! He was there for the past 11 years for advice and we know it’s not working.. we gotta move on from the past to focus on the present and future. LONG LIVE FERGIE! Ggmu❤
I hope the ambassador salary that Sir Alex did receive went to charity. How much money does a person need, he will always be treated the same anyway. Talk about unnecessary spending by the club I totally agree with the clubs decision you should too.
We all love Fergie, but come on INEOS are making the right changes to move the club forward, GGMU
That is fine, Sir Alex lost it 10-15years ago. Dinosaur. Look at this last 30 signings and he Only made 105 signings in 26years.......nobody is bigger than the club. He and you should remember that. The open heart surgery has just started.
Good move from Ineos. They need to make these cuts to pay for a bigger and better club in the future.
I think it's a bit naive to not fully understand the deal and make a judgement on it or call it ruthless. He could have been offered shares in the company, dividends based on X performance benchmarks, etc. Basically, they could have just changed the comp structure from a automatic payout to something that actually has more upside. We have no idea the specifics.
Its and statement that will also help breaking with the past. A new future is nearing without the (financial) burden of the past
The logical decision is , why would I pay sir Alex 2 million dollars a year for doing nothing at all but sitting and watching and the emotional decision is he’s a MAN U legend and he should be paid for doing nothing for the rest of his life
Are we the first club ever to sack an ambassador lmao omg
Paying the price for poor management over last 10 years. Same happened to Leeds many years ago, success on the field can hide these costs
We could be in a lot of trouble with FFP (especially if the Premier League come down hard on City) if we’re not careful so this makes sense. Feels tight given he’s in his 80s and everything that he’s done for the club but it’s not like he’s having to use a food bank or relying on a state pension.
We need to move away from SAF’s shadow. Football has changed a lot since SAF retired. We need to move on with times, otherwise risk falling even further behind.
"It was not something that anyone was speaking about" - just about sums this up. Why was no-one speaking about it? When 25% of the club staff was being sacked to save cash, why weren't you asking why multi-millionaire SAF was trousering £2m a year for effectively doing nothing?
I doubt many people even knew that we were paying SAF a fortune for the title of global ambassador
Put it this way, we could've doubled his salary and people wouldn't be complained, maybe people would've been confused, but it shows that we love fergie, but this is ruthless
Last of the legends to go, were totally lost, our club deserves everything we get, cant blame him for milking it for what he achieved, its never happening again...
Everyone talks as if SAF is taking the position because he wants it or needs the money. Pretty quite sure because he was asked and because he loves the club. At least agree on this simple basis first.
Now everything else we try to explain will fall into place easier from that basis. You will realize how the media and spin it into something it's not
Now they need to do this with the current squad. Some of those players in the first team need to go.
Its a sign of how messed up this is becoming when ETH is the safest person at the club absolute joke.
he isnt up to the role anymore and seemingly was ok with it. He retains his directors role.
I like what there doing they’re going to keep the cost as low as possible now I wanna see more
Ineos couldn't suck Ten Hag , but had the audacity to end Feggies' contract.
Ruthless in every aspect of the club is what some of us expected,let's move away from the past
These guys are ruthless in doing that but still feel like they have to keep ten hag
I have a feeling something was said that probably should’ve been said. I think this is either a power play or ETH is having everyone out the way.
Well done by INEOS.
Yeah they have done the right thing sir Alex should have kept away from the club after when he retired
This same SAF cost man united all this constrain they should have one of the best manager in the world right now but instead he decided to choose the wrong person to replace him at Manchester united
Ive said it numerous times, but I'll say it again.
INEOS is a business first!
Maybe this is a two fold plan, save the club some money and a better chance of Keane coming in to shake things up a bit with Ruud when ETH eventually gets the sack.
Sir Alex wasn't a problem, he had paid his salary over and over.....I would say an own goal from INEOS!
INEOS want to look to be ruthless but they have created an expensive vertical hierarchy, which looks top heavy and to date they have not improved United or the brand...........so what have they gained?
Well they have to cover Bruno’s and Rashford’s wages somehow 🤷♂️