This comment way over a home owner capable, I’m dealing with a shower/tub combination. Recently bought home so I have no history on it. Currently there is only a shower head, no spout for bathtub. There’s a existing hole for waterline spout. I’ve been watching your videos since starting on house problems. You are Very helpful, Thank You. Think this may be over my head!
Hi Shannon, Thanks for the Excellent video. I looked at some other videos, including Moens but yours is so simply explained. Ive always wanted to have His/Hers shower heads for the Wife and I. It took a bit of jiggering around with stringer boards to mount everything perfectly in alignment. It is just a "shower only" unit but im guessing it would of cost me over $500 in labour for the local "Pirate" to do it😂. I split the job with pex and push-in fittings. It went well but time consuming. I always love your videos cuz your a down to earth guy, Thanks Again. Jim.
Dude, thank you! I'm feeling really good about the bathtub/shower rough-in I'll be doing tomorrow, now that I've watched this video. Like many others have mentioned before me, the level of detail you provided is very appreciated. I plan to check out the other videos in your library.
I definitely appreciate the level of detail you include in your descriptions. As a handyman, I do so many different kinds of projects that I need these extra reminders and notes so crucial steps remain in sequence. Thanks for confirming the importance of anchoring PEX and always switching to copper when pipe needs to breach the wall. I didn't hear you mention gauging plumbing rough-in height with tile size and layout to avoid grout lines falling behind escutcheons, trim plates and tub spouts (when possible), but your finished product demonstrates this preferable aesthetic. I currently have yet another project including a tub conversion to shower, and a tub replacement, in tandem with a PEX system upgrade from old CPVC for the cold. This is in a condo w/steel studs, so I'll be cruising through your vids for any tips I don't already know. Already looking to reframe the shower to best accommodate the clients preferred tile. Fun Fun Fun!
Shannon my friend. This is Charles from Canada, I just would like to wish you a Merry Christmas and I wish you and your loved ones all the best. Thanks a million for all the time you have taken to post these informative and instructive videos. May you be blessed and I wish you a healthy life and I pray and wish no sickness comes never your dwelling. Be blessed brother.
Shannon, Thank you sir for taking the time to do this video. Always appreciate great work and down to the average DIY-er lingo. It really helps to see all the small details that go into making it work correctly. Sometimes you get folks skipping past what they think is common knowledge. Thanks again. NOW, to cutting 1/2 copper, converting top pex, raising the shower/bath spout up ~4-inches, tub, tile and (crossing fingers it all goes as planned. Diego from California.
Outstanding video. I really appreciate that you made a video showing how to install a shower and tub instead of converting a tub into a standing shower. Thank you.
I am using a Moen system very similar but unfortunately I have the bath spout that screws on and the length of the copper needs to be just right, which you talked about, ugh. Very good info you provided, thanks! It will help me a lot in gauging the depth of the Moen valve. As you mentioned, the instructions are vague in this area. It's more art than craft at that point. Wish me luck!
I know those push connect/shark fittings are convenient, but why not use pex crimp rings? I know they are more permanent, but I would think they are cheaper and no worries about the slim chance of a connection leak/failure.
NICE! That bathroom job is coming along well! Reading the other comments, I would think the crimp connections would be better especially since they're back in the wall. Other than that, THANKYOU!
About the flush of the plate is what I needed to know about and Why the manual don't say it clear for the DIY . Big thanks now I have confidence and will finish my shower I owe you Sir Thanks
You will find all the steps for this same bathroom in my bathroom playlist:th-cam.com/play/PLh0KqGKtX4oVviOvDmIs3DQrqsrv92LQz.html And here is a video vlog from that entire bathroom reno:th-cam.com/play/PLh0KqGKtX4oWQ128-wRsdwLVJNjd1bmJf.html
By the time you do one bathroom with push connects you could have bought a $45 crimper with rings and all the fittings from the orange store, next bathroom will be half the cost and you own the tools to do professional work Thanks for the video!
I need to know about threading the shower arm on. I counted 3 rotations and you said you couldn't do more, all by hand, no tools. I just had to use a 24in pipe wrench and the arm sandwiched between 2 boards to hold it just to get my arm and sharkbite threaded together. (I used 5 wraps and pipe dope) we got them together and only seated about half the threads. I went through dry fittings with 2 different shower arms and multiple 1/2in female threads. All copper or sharkbites while sitting on the floor in a Lowes trying to see what the heck the issue is. Initially the arm leaked, after the pipe wrenching madness and 4 or 5 solid turns, no leaks. I cannot understand why that was such a hassle for use while the multiple other threaded fittings were light weight and easy wrenched snuga
@@HouseImprovements by all means yes, the original fitting was crossed after we removed it. The crazy thing is, the shower arm was just fine, when tested in other fittings we had the same result, just didn't tighten it fully. Our problem has been an issue with a few others too by checking a couple forum posts here and there. In the end, we got a new shower arm, a new fitting, plenty of dope and tape, a hefty amount of applied force, now no leaks. I even asked opinions of the employees with the dry fits in store before I took them home.
Great very well explained video your example is pretty much exactly as mine situation is, however I am little confused I was most interested on placement of the valve depth wise from the tiled surface , you said in the beginning that the black cover plate should end up flush with the finished tile however when you showed the final fitting of the sleeves and escutcheon plate etc it looked like that black cover was set back behind the backing board can you please confirm this positioning I have watched several of your videos and you have a great teaching ability
The faucet appears that way but the plastic plate is removed because the wall covering is thick enough that the plate is not needed for support. It just looks further back then it is I guess? If you had a fiberglass or acrylic shower wall only then you need that black plate in place just behind the shower wall to help support the wall because its thin.
Great video! About to attempt my own installation. I think I'm going to go with PEX tubing like you did. Curious about the push-in connectors though, especially the one for the tub spout, what is preventing the pipe from falling out of the connection ? I was waiting for you to clamp them on but it never came 😅 any clarification would be amazing, thank you!
The fitting has "teeth" inside that keeps the pipe from slipping out under pressure. At the 20:30 mark I explain that I will add another block of wood and clamp to the pipe .
Thank you for this! I have to redo 3 bathrooms & the only plumber who will come out to my house is very rude and he refuses to sweat copper. I'm not comfortable with sweating copper, so I wanted to see how to connect copper pipe for the tub spout. I can re-use existing copper rough-in for the two tubs. I didn't realize push-fit worked on copper for some reason. I'm going to be cheap & use sch 80 PVC elbows (used for electrical conduit) for the 90° bends for the water supply to connect to the valve bodies. It's less than $1 for the elbows where I live and it will be less likely to restrict the flow. I'm going to be using thin-walled direct-to-stud wall kits so I'm wondering if I can use water-sealed plywood to reinforce the spots where holes are cut so that if they ever get pressed on/leaned on, it won't crack the surround. I know Sterling/Kohler uses plywood or OSB coated in some protective water seal for their "age-in-place backers". I'm going to be making my own for the grab bars since Sterling didn't have them in the right place for the grab bar sizes we are using. I'll also be adding braces in the wall spanning the studs that the backer boards can anchor to. Btw, do you have the link to your video on installing that valve in a thin-walled shower? I would very much appreciate it, please.
Installed a new shower only Moen valve. Everything is installed with PEX and water is dripping out of shower head. Do you think I got a bad cartridge? Again no heat was applied
Not sure what "metal" you are referring to . There should be a plastic disk ( about 5" around) attached to the valve, that should be flush to the tile. In reality you usually can be 1/8" deeper or prouder and it will still work.
The valve i have is threaded and there is a piece of copper made by sharkbite to accept pex tubing on on end and the spout on the other end. Question is if we put pex between the valve and the copper piece for the spout how to keep the pex from flexing?
watch at the 19:25 mark. I talk about a similar situation and show the fitting needed. and that it should be mounted on a block of wood. If this does not cover your situation come to my forum. This is a link for the forum in the video description.
Question: so I just had a bathroom remodeled. It had no shower head plumbing and I believe mostly galvanized pipe. Anyways, the guy I hired used all pex. Before paying him, I turned the tube on and my shower head would leak. Further research, it's because he used pex from the diverter to the tub spout. Anyways, I needed him to fix but obviously he wasn't going to cut the new tile. So he had access to the back of the shower portion. He ended up changing the tub spout that he had pex to copper, to 1/2 galvanized pipe. He fixed the issue which was great. But, obviously I wish it wasn't galvanized. Anyways is this a big issue for me or should I be okay for many years before it starts to break down since water isn't really sitting and pooling as much in the down spout?
Hi Shannon. I assume to change water from the bath to the shower, all you need is press thr diverter on the spout? What is the difference of having a diverter in the mixer? Thanks
I built a shed watching your videos five years ago and now I think I can rebuilt my bathroom. Thank You!
Your approach to explaining this is great. A thorough explanation & good use of the camera. Thank you from a person scared of plumbing.
Thanks ... O wow .. I love Moen faucets !
Man you are thorough and a great teacher. Can't believe i just found this channel!
Thanks and welcome
This comment way over a home owner capable, I’m dealing with a shower/tub combination. Recently bought home so I have no history on it. Currently there is only a shower head, no spout for bathtub. There’s a existing hole for waterline spout. I’ve been watching your videos since starting on house problems. You are Very helpful, Thank You. Think this may be over my head!
You are the best teacher. Don’t change a thing!
Hi Shannon, Thanks for the Excellent video. I looked at some other videos, including Moens but yours is so simply explained. Ive always wanted to have His/Hers shower heads for the Wife and I. It took a bit of jiggering around with stringer boards to mount everything perfectly in alignment. It is just a "shower only" unit but im guessing it would of cost me over $500 in labour for the local "Pirate" to do it😂. I split the job with pex and push-in fittings. It went well but time consuming. I always love your videos cuz your a down to earth guy, Thanks Again.
Jim.
Good job Jim!
Dude, thank you! I'm feeling really good about the bathtub/shower rough-in I'll be doing tomorrow, now that I've watched this video. Like many others have mentioned before me, the level of detail you provided is very appreciated. I plan to check out the other videos in your library.
I’ve come back to this video a dozen times. Appreciate it
I darn near screamed like a cheerleader when this guy popped up after I did a search for this. Thanks again as always my guy 🙏🙇♂️
you are super cool, calm and collective, and explain the details very well, This is DIY, best channel
I definitely appreciate the level of detail you include in your descriptions. As a handyman, I do so many different kinds of projects that I need these extra reminders and notes so crucial steps remain in sequence. Thanks for confirming the importance of anchoring PEX and always switching to copper when pipe needs to breach the wall. I didn't hear you mention gauging plumbing rough-in height with tile size and layout to avoid grout lines falling behind escutcheons, trim plates and tub spouts (when possible), but your finished product demonstrates this preferable aesthetic.
I currently have yet another project including a tub conversion to shower, and a tub replacement, in tandem with a PEX system upgrade from old CPVC for the cold. This is in a condo w/steel studs, so I'll be cruising through your vids for any tips I don't already know. Already looking to reframe the shower to best accommodate the clients preferred tile. Fun Fun Fun!
Disaronno on ice
It was nine passes with the Teflon tape, Shannon. I counted it for you! 😄
Beautiful renovation, by the way. Flawless! 👏🏽👏🏽💯
So far this is the best video explaining how to install the valve. Thanks a lot for your time
Glad you liked it!
Shannon my friend. This is Charles from Canada, I just would like to wish you a Merry Christmas and I wish you and your loved ones all the best. Thanks a million for all the time you have taken to post these informative and instructive videos. May you be blessed and I wish you a healthy life and I pray and wish no sickness comes never your dwelling. Be blessed brother.
Merry Christmas Charles.
Excellent video, great camera work, and, you are a good teacher.
Shannon, Thank you sir for taking the time to do this video. Always appreciate great work and down to the average DIY-er lingo. It really helps to see all the small details that go into making it work correctly. Sometimes you get folks skipping past what they think is common knowledge. Thanks again. NOW, to cutting 1/2 copper, converting top pex, raising the shower/bath spout up ~4-inches, tub, tile and (crossing fingers it all goes as planned.
Diego from California.
Thank you and good luck
This guy is the Bob Ross of home renovations.
Outstanding video. I really appreciate that you made a video showing how to install a shower and tub instead of converting a tub into a standing shower. Thank you.
This is the only man I can listen to
In detail all the way, one of the best !!
Another great video Shannon! you and I have renovated half my house!!! :-)
Great video. I was just confused with the plastic parts for the handle but i watched the whole video anyways!! Great detail dude
Love your channel. Dont ever leave us.
Outstanding video and instructions and I now believe that I can finish my bathtub plumbing job that was left unfinished by Plumber!
If I want to learn about something related to home renovation you are my first option tanks for all you time you're putting into make videos
Awesome, thank you!
One of the best how to videos I've seen. Thank you!
thank you shannon,
your video just saved me a ton of headache. great 101!! you're awesome!! god bless
Proud to be a Canadian! Awesome work looking forward to tackling my shower 🚿 tomorrow.
You got this!
Excellent video. Pro who is able to explain his thinking is very helpful to me.
Great teaching!! Loved the video
Love the videos thank you. Didnt watch first because the longer video time, but im glad you take the longer time to show and explain everything
U r a very good teacher/instructor..
I applaud you on your pronunciation of escutcheon
Great well done video. Clear, concise, to the point plus some. Thank you
Excellent presentation do detailed and so well done very impressed thank you to spend the time to present
I am using a Moen system very similar but unfortunately I have the bath spout that screws on and the length of the copper needs to be just right, which you talked about, ugh. Very good info you provided, thanks! It will help me a lot in gauging the depth of the Moen valve. As you mentioned, the instructions are vague in this area. It's more art than craft at that point. Wish me luck!
Glad I could help! Those threaded spout connections suck don't they? LOL
Thank you so much Shannon for that...funny how your shower tile is the same as my new floor :) Ill be checking back in when its time for my sink.
Good job thank you very much helping people to learn how we can do it ours self
Another great informative video. I appreciate your detailed description and the 'why' you're doing what you're doing! Thank-you.
Glad it was helpful!
Super dooper down to earth help; utmost blessings!
I really like watching your videos , hope you had a good holiday
Thank you! You too!
Thanks!!! you save me a lot of money!!! Very detail tutorial.
I've read not to use sharkbite behind walls.
Shark bites are rated to be in hidden spots that are not accessible ,like in a wall. I use them all the time.
Great detail in ur instruction..... right down to using pan head screws for the guts of the valves. Appreciated.
Thanks for all the helpful advice!
your the man,peaceful and calm voice really makes it easy to learn from your vids,i subed,thanks.
Really helped thanks for taking the time to make the video s u answer all my questions thank for real video!!!
I know those push connect/shark fittings are convenient, but why not use pex crimp rings?
I know they are more permanent, but I would think they are cheaper and no worries about the slim chance of a connection leak/failure.
you for sure could ,This is just what I do as it is very convenient .
Love your videos, you make everything easy to follow. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You do the absolute best videos. Thank you so much!!
Thanks for another great video! Wish you'd of shown putting on the drain overflow also?
Great Video, Realy Good Info ,Very Helpful
Good job sir actually I’m afraid to use shark bite ,like you use, specially behind the wall, I never use them. Do you think those stays forever?
NICE! That bathroom job is coming along well! Reading the other comments, I would think the crimp connections would be better especially since they're back in the wall. Other than that, THANKYOU!
Thank you sir for sharing your expertise. I learn a lot from watching your videos!
About the flush of the plate is what I needed to know about and Why the manual don't say it clear for the DIY .
Big thanks now I have confidence and will finish my shower
I owe you Sir
Thanks
You're welcome!
Well explained. Keep up these great informative videos because people like myself do appreciated. Thanks and God bless
Hello! Great video! Every video I see you guys skip the part before you put the tiles on. What’s behind it? Just regular dry wall???
You will find all the steps for this same bathroom in my bathroom playlist:th-cam.com/play/PLh0KqGKtX4oVviOvDmIs3DQrqsrv92LQz.html
And here is a video vlog from that entire bathroom reno:th-cam.com/play/PLh0KqGKtX4oWQ128-wRsdwLVJNjd1bmJf.html
Thanks this helped. I was worried about spacing my tub faucet in the wall.
Thanks Shannon. Another great video with detailed explanations.
Nice job 👍
Just on bath 🛀 top how it’s connect?
Thanks
Thanks Shannon for your professional work video. Gives me a great standard to meet.
Outstanding video, nice job!
Does HUD require securing a shower valve inside the wall or can it just flop around? I need a diagram of a HUD approved shower valve installation.
Great video! Thank you very much for making it!
By the time you do one bathroom with push connects you could have bought a $45 crimper with rings and all the fittings from the orange store, next bathroom will be half the cost and you own the tools to do professional work
Thanks for the video!
Shannon thanks for the video , question for you , do you try the water before install the tile ? Thanks
Great video, what products did you use?
Moen shower valve and Pex A pipe and fittings
Great video! You explain things so well. Keep them coming 😁
Thank you very much. Very informative!
I need to know about threading the shower arm on.
I counted 3 rotations and you said you couldn't do more, all by hand, no tools.
I just had to use a 24in pipe wrench and the arm sandwiched between 2 boards to hold it just to get my arm and sharkbite threaded together. (I used 5 wraps and pipe dope) we got them together and only seated about half the threads. I went through dry fittings with 2 different shower arms and multiple 1/2in female threads. All copper or sharkbites while sitting on the floor in a Lowes trying to see what the heck the issue is.
Initially the arm leaked, after the pipe wrenching madness and 4 or 5 solid turns, no leaks. I cannot understand why that was such a hassle for use while the multiple other threaded fittings were light weight and easy wrenched snuga
I would say you had the threads cross threaded ?
@@HouseImprovements by all means yes, the original fitting was crossed after we removed it. The crazy thing is, the shower arm was just fine, when tested in other fittings we had the same result, just didn't tighten it fully. Our problem has been an issue with a few others too by checking a couple forum posts here and there. In the end, we got a new shower arm, a new fitting, plenty of dope and tape, a hefty amount of applied force, now no leaks. I even asked opinions of the employees with the dry fits in store before I took them home.
Awesome teaching! you make easy to understand video with a lot of good recommendations! thank you!
Very helpful and well done, thanks.
awesome video, thank you for the in-depth guide
Awesome I instructions, however I have installed a one piece shower bath, so now trying to figure out how to do mine from the back 😮
Great video, simple to follow along. Love these videos ....
Nice job, but when did you leak test, before the wall material went up?
Yes, before Kerdi board went up
Great very well explained video your example is pretty much exactly as mine situation is, however I am little confused I was most interested on placement of the valve depth wise from the tiled surface , you said in the beginning that the black cover plate should end up flush with the finished tile however when you showed the final fitting of the sleeves and escutcheon plate etc it looked like that black cover was set back behind the backing board can you please confirm this positioning I have watched several of your videos and you have a great teaching ability
The faucet appears that way but the plastic plate is removed because the wall covering is thick enough that the plate is not needed for support. It just looks further back then it is I guess? If you had a fiberglass or acrylic shower wall only then you need that black plate in place just behind the shower wall to help support the wall because its thin.
Thank you for the video. Was great info that I can use.
Very helpful, thanks for posting.
Thank you for your instructions! I was able to install mine on my own.
Great video! About to attempt my own installation.
I think I'm going to go with PEX tubing like you did.
Curious about the push-in connectors though, especially the one for the tub spout, what is preventing the pipe from falling out of the connection ? I was waiting for you to clamp them on but it never came 😅 any clarification would be amazing, thank you!
The fitting has "teeth" inside that keeps the pipe from slipping out under pressure. At the 20:30 mark I explain that I will add another block of wood and clamp to the pipe .
Awesome video brother helped me a lot
About to buy my first reno. I'm excited I found this channel!
Thank you for this!
I have to redo 3 bathrooms & the only plumber who will come out to my house is very rude and he refuses to sweat copper. I'm not comfortable with sweating copper, so I wanted to see how to connect copper pipe for the tub spout. I can re-use existing copper rough-in for the two tubs. I didn't realize push-fit worked on copper for some reason.
I'm going to be cheap & use sch 80 PVC elbows (used for electrical conduit) for the 90° bends for the water supply to connect to the valve bodies. It's less than $1 for the elbows where I live and it will be less likely to restrict the flow.
I'm going to be using thin-walled direct-to-stud wall kits so I'm wondering if I can use water-sealed plywood to reinforce the spots where holes are cut so that if they ever get pressed on/leaned on, it won't crack the surround. I know Sterling/Kohler uses plywood or OSB coated in some protective water seal for their "age-in-place backers". I'm going to be making my own for the grab bars since Sterling didn't have them in the right place for the grab bar sizes we are using. I'll also be adding braces in the wall spanning the studs that the backer boards can anchor to.
Btw, do you have the link to your video on installing that valve in a thin-walled shower? I would very much appreciate it, please.
Installed a new shower only Moen valve. Everything is installed with PEX and water is dripping out of shower head. Do you think I got a bad cartridge? Again no heat was applied
Youre awesome... This video made me wanna get up early tomorrow to finish a project
Have fun!
great job. thank you very much. I think will be helpful always to let the watcher know where you got the part and how much.
Good video!! Thank you amigo!! Always very helpfull all your advices about your job
Awesome.. I'm subscriber and I really like your videos, they're really useful and very well explained. Thanks.
My Pfister Rancho kit says use copper or iron pipe. Ive been told to never use pex for tub spout
So I bought a Moen Adler yesterday ..How much is/should your metal protruding 'beyond' the tile ?
Not sure what "metal" you are referring to . There should be a plastic disk ( about 5" around) attached to the valve, that should be flush to the tile. In reality you usually can be 1/8" deeper or prouder and it will still work.
Watch at the 5:40 mark
tank you you save me today I was worried but solve my problem
That’s a great looking tub. Can you give the specs on that?
This was the Nomad 6030 by Maax.
The valve i have is threaded and there is a piece of copper made by sharkbite to accept pex tubing on on end and the spout on the other end. Question is if we put pex between the valve and the copper piece for the spout how to keep the pex from flexing?
watch at the 19:25 mark. I talk about a similar situation and show the fitting needed. and that it should be mounted on a block of wood. If this does not cover your situation come to my forum. This is a link for the forum in the video description.
Nice informative job man
Question: so I just had a bathroom remodeled. It had no shower head plumbing and I believe mostly galvanized pipe. Anyways, the guy I hired used all pex. Before paying him, I turned the tube on and my shower head would leak. Further research, it's because he used pex from the diverter to the tub spout. Anyways, I needed him to fix but obviously he wasn't going to cut the new tile. So he had access to the back of the shower portion. He ended up changing the tub spout that he had pex to copper, to 1/2 galvanized pipe. He fixed the issue which was great. But, obviously I wish it wasn't galvanized. Anyways is this a big issue for me or should I be okay for many years before it starts to break down since water isn't really sitting and pooling as much in the down spout?
galvanized is not ideal anymore but you will get many years from that .
Is the pex for the down spout really a bad idea? Or just not recommended
The smaller inside diameter of pex compared to copper can cause water to back up and actually trickle out of the shower head.
Nice job and video, wish you were living in monroe Louisiana, definitely I could use your awesome experience.
Where does he live?
@@jesusavalos5548 i don't know where you he lives but i live in monroe Louisiana.
I watch a lots of your videos in your way of teaching are really awesome thank you.
Hi Shannon. I assume to change water from the bath to the shower, all you need is press thr diverter on the spout? What is the difference of having a diverter in the mixer? Thanks
Really no difference , they both do the same thing.