Blacksmithing Lost Supports on Mud Wagon | Engels Coach Shop
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- The rear luggage support irons were missing for the right side on this stagecoach mud wagon. Using the left side as patterns I am completing the duplicates needed for the right side. Thanks for following this Okanagan Washington rebuild project.
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Dave, I personally have no problem with you doing tool reviews. 1: I know if you don't like the way it performs you have no problem saying so! 2: As a craftsman, and you are a craftsman! You know the difference between a gimmicky tool and something that is genuinely useful! So please don't hesitate to let us know what you think if you get a useful new tool. Great project and as usual! I am learning something new with each video! Thanks again!
Agreed. And I had no idea Makita made a stand light. Useful info, especially as I know someone who could use one...
I really enjoy watching the steps you take in researching and then, the construction of what you’ve determined to be needed. You’re a true craftsman and artisan in their execution and watching you work the metal and wood to form what is need is for me, pure joy.
Thank you for taking the time, and expense to document your craft to show how it was done in the past and for those who hopefully, will follow in the future.
As they say: What he said!
Nice of Makita to acknowledge the value you bring to their product by choosing their tools. Cheers from Australia.
At 6:43, placing the strips of wood between the clamps and the uprights, is a true sign of being proud of your work. After all, this is a mud wagon.
As always, it's a pleasure watching you figure out lengths, angles and reassembling all the parts of the coach. Stay safe.
Well said always enjoy watching and catching on , he stays so relaxed and keeps it real
Truly impressive to watch. I have been watching Dave's videos for some years now and never tire of them.
@EngelsCoachShop
Who ever came up with the saying "A Jack of all trades but master of none" clearly had not seen Dave at work :)
It's both inspiring and intimidating at the same time to see how seemingly effortlessly he "conjures up" what he needs. From wood or metal, cloth or leather using wildly different skills, and techniques. But always working in a straight forward efficient manner to arrive to the exact shape and fit that he needs the "part" to be to beautifully fill it's intended purpose.
It's always a joy to behold.
Best regards.
I'm of the idea that Dave is just very good at his job and all the trades that it encompasses.
Remember, back in the day whilst people like Dave did indeed exist,... it's also much more likely to find that a wagon, coach would've been made by several people, either working in concert under the same roof or entirely separate businesses.
Dave has to do it all himself because he's alone in his trade, there is no blacksmith to work with across his street, there's no wheelwright to make his wheels or an upholsterer. Back in the day, there were people trying to do it, but very likely... they started that saying because whilst trying to do everything (and fast), they'd end up screwing the pooch. Probably even otherwise good tradesmen, would've gotten it wrong, as back then, wagons, carts and so on... they were the cars of today, and as much as we need cars today to be made in sufficient numbers, it was equal back then for those.
So it was better to have many, all knowing in their trade, bunch up in to work on a primitive production line (which indeed existed before Ford) and come up with a product that's good, rather than one person, either willingly or forced by circumstance trying to make a product that... doesn't quite add up to the standards. And there certainly are such survivor items that show us that's the case.
That's why Dave's special, and he's worth listening to. He's become all that's required to create the item he's in need. If he'd get transported back in time, he'd be the one that everyone comes to in order to learn the trades. They'd be begging him from young to old.
That full expression goes " A jack of all trades is a master of none but still better than a master of one" and I think that's very fitting of Dave, from ironwork to carpentry to leather work, the man has the whole spectrum covered.
I can almost smell the workshop when watching your videos.. Tanks🇩🇰
Tweaking for sane, sober craftsmen! No drugs required. Finally, sanity has been restored to the internet.
Thanks Dave… I enjoyed the trip.
I remember when a child going with my dad to blacksmith and he would heat plow points and hammer to sharpen .
Good evening, Dave. I have been watching your videos since coming across the Borax wagons. On our way home from Arizona a couple of weeks ago, I was so drawn to swing by Bishop, but the wonderful winter weather prevented that. I have been greatly enjoying seeing all of your self built tools for the things you do along with the antique tools you have collected that are still greatly serviceable. Especially the device for sizing and welding the beads for rubber tires. Your techniques are all so familiar to the way my father taught, such as transferring a dimension with a pencil tip and a knuckle. I can really relate to having to figure out how to work solo, using stands winches and clamps and other supports to do the heavy lifting and holding things in place while match drilling. I have been drawn to blacksmithing but have never taken the plunge. If I do get that far, I will already have a wealth of knowledge amassed just from watching you work. Thank you so much. You do use some modern materials such as Titebond III. I was wondering of the original assembly was just bolted or nailed or if hide glues were employed? On a recent trip to Connelly State Park in Washington, there was a carriage on display from the pioneer days of Washington, with which I felt immediately familiar from watching this series. I very much look forward the next installment every Friday. Thank you for this video documentation. Blessings.
Thanks to Makita for the fancy light stand !!
Learnin something new every Friday.. Thanks
I love watching you work. Everything is done until it it True and correct. I have a severe case of the "good enoughs". Also, Thanks to Don Metz. I was just thinking that Dave need a new light.
The best thing about those work lights is how fast and easy it breaks down and sets up! I have 2 and use them when trimming new construction homes
Thank you and your helpers for taking the time to let us follow you.
What a wonderful teacher. Thank you for sharing.
Another outstanding video. Thank you for taking us along with you on this buggy rebuild. Every video I watch I learn something new about buggies, wood and metal working. Thanks again.
Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
I loved how you can take the stress out of iron with heating it in the right spot, pretty awesome!
Well Dave you just confirmed an argument I had with a fellow empoyee back in the late 1960's when I worked for an Elevator company. we had some hoistway brackets and braces that came and the bracket was not bent correctly and I suggested we bolt and clamp them into place and heat the turn the same way you did to allow it to "Conform" was the term I used into place. Then he had to go work on a service call elsewhere and did not get to see the results. and never believed me. So I just sent him an email with the URL for this video to validate a 56 yr old matter of opinion! Thank you! and for sharing ECF
Ha that is awesome.
That's great!😄
LoL, this is funny. You never know when an argument can get settled. Maybe you're having a coffee in the morning and you have an epiphany, maybe you're watching one of Dave's videos. :))
Glad you are over it!
Makita makes great tools. My first experience with Makita was in 1986 I move to Lincoln NE and started a job as a framing carpenter. We had a very large retirement condos to build. There was over 30 carpenter on the job. The boss Allen Brant showed up with 25 new Makita 7 1/4 inch circular saws in the back of his pickup. For the next year those saws got one rough workout. I don't remember any of them failing.
Thank you, a true master of blacksmithing!
Morning Dave and Diane. I've been looking for a work light, as a breakdown mechanic half the time it's overnight, you have given me another one to look at 🙂. Lovely to see you make the missing bits, you give us an insight into what goes into making a wagon pre modern tools. Love the series. Regards Richard 🇬🇧
I saw the fold up stool you used to hammer the mud wagon angle. We all have our favorite stools, tools and items but those fold up stools are dangerous ☠️. Save yourself an accident and turf that fold up Hazzard. Had a workmates who had one of those collapse on him, tore the tenon right of his heel. I enjoy your content greatly and as a professional benchwork joiner I can relate to alot of what you do. Please turf the stool and keep the content coming no matter how dull you may think it is. Watching you go through the motions as a tradesman is satisfying enough. Thanks Mike Magdzik
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I built my first Cart out of 2x4's and 1x6 and 1x 8t's when I was 16. I put the axel a little too far forward and had to set forward on the seat to keep the shaves down, where there supposed to be. what a fun learning curve. The next one in my late 30T'sMeadowbrook
My brother in-law does finish carpentry and I asked him what brand of tools he uses for fine finish work and he said Makita. He said that the other manufacturers are good for rough carpentry but the tolerances on Makita are tighter and produce more accurate results. He said that the way to test a miter saw is check the side to side play when it is locked down and can see the difference between brands. He is right. There is a big difference in accuracy. Thanks again for sharing.
I hope that you have a big ol company stamp that you bang into your red hot iron work, or an iron brand for the woodwork. The wagons you rebuild will become iconic and treasured in their own right, and just for your signature mark, in the future.
I am totally enjoying watching you rebuild this coach. I can't wait to see what the finished product looks like.
GOOD TO SEE YOUR VIDEO TODAY STAY WARM IN MONTANA
DAVE, Years ago I would watch Norm Abrams on PBS. When he began he just had a drop light for power. As time went on he had all kinds of power equip. ... Makita name was taped over but you could still see that color. John, Michigan
For a "mere" mudwagon, the art and sophistication of the original ironwork is surprising. Those flat bends, and crisp 90degree square internal angles are really tricky to achieve. It appears that some of this mudwagon ironwork is more testing to achieve than that on the borax wagons- that ironwork was massive, whereas this is finicky.
It is very interesting watching you replicate the missing original parts with such skill and attention.
Hat off to ya!
The tight bolt is a nice trick
The ECS rebuild process is WORTHY!!! Thank You Both!!
You make this look so easy. A true master craftsman.👍🏻
Thanks Dave, really enjoyed that!
I love the video, and as always, you amaze me in what you do.
Friday night is always supper with EngelsCoachShop.! Really enjoy the scenic intros and outros...
I sort off feel like I'm slowly completing an intensive multidiscipline virtual apprenticeship with your video's Dave. It's approaching the stage where I can sometimes guess what you'll do next. Great viewing BTW.
Just another realization; this is probably why I like the whole process of making Wood fired pizza's so much, from making the dough onwards, to preparing the fire and oven. It feels thousands of years old, no buttons, no electricity, just your experience and a keen eye.
Watching you come up with solutions to puzzles one step at a time is fun. It remends me of one of the jobs I had repairing Flight Simulators decades ago. There was what was drawn up to be built, what was actually built, and then what was built and repaired several times. What a puzzle I could run into sometime. LOL Thanks as usual Dave for an excellent video.
My buddy also repaired the original Flight Sims. If I recall the boards were huge. No surface mounts back then! He was like you and Dave and basically made what was needed. The sims were so old the "younger" techs didn't have a clue how to repair if it wasn't plug n play.
Fantastic manipulation of metal!!! Excellent job Dave getting the iron on for the back luggage carrier. It's getting closer as you work on it and it is really entertaining watching you work. Thanks for sharing with us, stay safe and keep up the fun too. Fred.
Once again thanks for the video.
Looks like you're going to have it done by the "mud season"
Great attention to detail.
Sometimes I wonder how smart I would be if you were my Father.
Thanks.
Great tip about localize heating with the part in place. Never seen that before but it makes a ton of sense.
And thanks to Mr. Metz. That Mikata light seems like it will help all of us see a bit better.
The more I watch your videos, the more I understand that blacksmithing is an integral part of the wheel wright trade.
Enjoy your craftsmanship very much from Bakersfield, Calif.
13:10. You made me watch this twice. All good
There's my favorite plumb craftsman hammer
We use a similar light (by Milwaukee) on our rescue squad. Very handy at an accident. You may not have indicated, I may have missed it, that the unit is battery powered. They are a great design! Thanks!
I'm trying to imagine the amount of iron work done back when this coach was built and how it would have been al hand built, no hydraulic press. Nice looking iron work getting it all matched up.
They may have had a hydraulic press. We read it was invented in 1795.
Love the way you find out what others has done on wagan
Very good show
Precision, precision, precision!
I think I like the blacksmithing and wheel building videos the most.
I detector some Tublcane in this video! Lol
Excellent craftsmanship, as usual.
Good progress. Nice job.
At 20:04, you say "the leather boot".
Thank you!
I always wondered why what the US calls a "trunk" of a car, the UK and Australia calls a "boot".
That nomenclature explains it.
My thoughts exactly from the UK.
Now I’m wondering why on an automobile it’s called a trunk?
@@farmerjohn6192 Possibly because early American cars had real travelling trunks attached with straps to their posterior, maybe?
I really like your video, I was doing a very approaching job.
Thanks again Dave & Diane for this video. As usual i learn a gtest deal particularly about tue blacksmith process tht you explain so well.
I can concur with Makita tools, i also use them a lot.
Hi Dave thanks for this Videl, I see how a couple things work now. When you put a little heat in the right, please I see the C clamp move as it naturally adjust itself.
Hi Dave and Diane ☺, nice easy in situ adjustment of the iron using the torch, clever, sure saves alot of time, a good thing to know. You might already know this Dave , that 12 point sockets will fit square nuts , or squares of any kind, you probably have your own reason for using the end wrench , I suppose it's easier to feel just how much compression your applying to the wood, ?. The gift of the makita work light was nice, it looks well thought out, and very useful to have on any job. Thanks for another interesting video mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Diane, Stuart and Megan UK.
Job well done.thank you
I love to watch you work iron. I learned something new on how two misaligned clamped heated up “fall into place” can be aligned with out on again off again. Much respect to you.
I bought some LED shop lights for about $10 each a few months ago. They can be daisy chained, they have the hardware to mount them to either the rafters, or wall, and put out much more light than the old florescent bulbs I had been using for nearly 30 years.
Watching the difference in clamp position when the right support was heated up.
Something I have seen on old (motor) vehicles where there is a carriage-bolt into a steel or iron part is that three corners have been filed off the bolt square, and one corner is filed into the hole.
That seems to work pretty well to stop the bolt spinning.
Thanks Dave
The tool review is a good addiction to your channel. I install cabinets in Las Vegas. I too use Makita tools. Knowing what other things that are available, is nice to know. I’m hoping you can also put a laser on it.
Fabulous application of experience and expertise. I never fail to be impressed by how much you are teaching me. Slainge from Scotland
Dave Engles you are good at you trade , beautiful work
Good job 👍
Its nice to watch a TRUE CRAFTSMAN!
Makita is my brand as well. Love them.
I hope you wear hearing protection when you make that anvil ring, Dave. That's almost as damaging as gunfire.
Super nice video; much enjoyed. Thanks!
Well done Dave Hi Dian have a day love from TEXAS
Hi! I hear you've had some cold weather down there.
Nice work like it
This project hads been so very interesting. Thanks!
Dave those light trees really come in handy I've got 2 Milwaukee brand with 12 hour batteries that I have used for mowing after dark in South Texas during the summer months when the days are 100 plus degrees you will use any opportunity to beat the heat and earlier this week the power went out while getting ready for work in the dark of morning they were a God sent and kept me from being late anyhow Keep up the Great work LOVE the attention to detail and your thoughts on why things are so
If someone would have told me years ago that I'd enjoy watching a wood and iron craftsman for 20 minutes at a clip in the future, I would have told them they were crazy. Thanks for not only entertaining us but educating us as well.
look ay movie,stagecoash guard/the silver whip. you se a mud wagon at the begening ,thank Allain
Love watching this channel. Thanks Dave.
thanks dave
Nicely done. As heavy duty as that assembly is, there had to be a good reason. So, it causes one to wonder just how heavy a cargo barrel they would haul back there on that bouncy wagon.
I had the same thought. Mite heavy duty for luggage, so what all did they haul back there??
@@Reziac Perhaps they served as the rapid delivery service of that period. Lots of cast iron products. Also, things like nails and chains were shipped in barrels and kegs.
I am a fan of Makita to I got a few tools from Makita and I am very satisfied, Makita is one of the best tools around.
I want a light like that it looks awesome.
Kind regards to all have a good weekend.
You make it look sooooo easy!
Dave if you had your vest made with your logo on it I'm sure it would sell.
Maybe add some pockets also. Good content as always.
I was watching an old western. "Hombre" in this there is some extensive pictures of a mud wagon. I could see these rockers and rocker braces very similar to the ones you reproduced in this old coach. The boot braces are not like this wagon. I looked for outside of the body braces like you're building here. The movie mud wagon must be iron braced on the inside. Box looks larger too. All kinds of coaches. Love your work Dave
Mr. Engel is sure is interesting watching you do the blacksmithing .
Another informative show with an added tool tip!
Thanks for both.
Great work. Very skilled.
Always enjoyable to watch and learn as you do your craft!
Perfect!
So interesting ! Thanks !
Another master class from the boss
That's a pretty neat trick, Dave. Thanks for sharing!
Nice to see how you work those into shape, and then let the heat do the work for you. Charles
Nice work Dave!
Thank you Mr. Metz. I wish your Makita Canadian office was as understanding.
As always very enjoyable. Love the explanation of why you do things the way you do.
Awesome