The craziest part of our buyback here in Australia was it was the conservative party that made the decision, would be like the Republican party in the US passing gun control.
The Republican party has often pushed for gun control. All governments push for gun control. An armed populace is not in the best interest of the government.
Australia being world leading as usual Should even go further to stop criminals. Allow a month where people can turn in their illegal/unregistered guns, and when its passed, anyone that is found with an illegal gun receives capital punishment, like in Singapore
An intresting fact that came to light a few years back is that Australia has more guns now (3.6 million) than it did when port Arthur happpened (3.2 million) and from 2.1 guns per gun owner in 1997 to 3.9 guns per owner. With fewer people owning guns but more guns per licence holder.
I guess that points to the registering and license requirements meaning that generally responsible people will be owning guns compared to every other random nutcase.
@@samrichards8251That's pretty optimistic, to put it lightly. In reality it's probably extremists and super dedicated gun lovers/collectors buying them.
@@BlueClouds-tp2ds Would still have a beneficial effect. Given there isn't much utility or additional risk in using multiple guns at once, the stat that matters in most cases is the total number of people with access to a gun. More concentrated gun ownership still means fewer people with gun access,
@Dani I’m guessing the majority of the people who had guns before the national firearms act didn’t register their guns (because there was no need) and that the number of guns owned would be greater than the estimated 3.2 million
@@BlueClouds-tp2ds I don't think so, I've lived in rural Australia for decades, and I've known a lot of gun owners. They are almost exclusively farmers and such; people that have such weapons for their work (pest control, etc). I've known a lot of random nutcases who have tried to acquire a gun (myself included) but have been unable to jump through all the legal hoops. And I most certainly shouldn't be in possession of one lol
We, Myanmar citizens are experiencing gun violence too but, in our case, our own military is the one doing it. Will there be any gun restriction program for this?
Australia's gun buyback amnesty was only part of it - from there on, we also had very strict gun registration and gun licensing laws. It took a friend of mine that wanted a rifle for hunting rabbits on his farm almost a year to get approved to get a license, then a 6 month wait to be able to buy his rifle.
It's seriously difficult to get a gun license. At the most basic level you need to be a rural property owner, or to be gainfully employed in an occupation where the gun is required (pest control, farming or such). Even just these two requirements already rule out the vast majority of irresponsible nutcases.
come and take them. ironically youll need guns to do it. america has a very different temperament and tradition than austrialia. if what was done there were attempted here, well, lets just say there is a comically numerical disadvantage to the people that would be tasked to seize them. and they would not survive that attempt.
That’s awesome. That means they have less money to do innocent people into giving up their firearms when everybody knows that the criminals will never give up their firearms
I think one important thing to consider about Australian gun laws is this: Australians are allowed to buy guns, you just need to acquire/continually renew a license, and there is a restriction on the types of firearms allowed, and on the reason for owning a gun. Gun laws are mostly not about taking away guns, but rather about making guns are only placed in safe hands, and making sure incredibly powerful firearms aren't on the market.
NOBODY gives them the tools for violence. Any attempt to remove any guns in the USA needs to be 100% focused strictly on those who are illegally using them@@chazer0075
It wasn’t an easy sell. State Politicians supported it, full well knowing it would cost them winning their next election. For example the conservative Queensland Premier of 1996 had a lot of heated resistance from rural and remote communities. He supported the scheme knowing that he could - and would - lose the 1998 State election. And he did. Australia is a big country and support wasn’t the same everywhere. The outcome was though and that’s all that really mattered. It need a very tough government the most.
Political self-sacrifice in the name of principles is a lesson Americans really need to learn. Not a single US politician would ever tank their career in the name of doing what's right (without first getting caught doing something wrong, at least). Not. A single. One.
conservatives willing to do the right thing no matter the cost, wish we still had some of those. Now all we get is clowns and the circuses that follow them
It worked in Australia after the Port Arthur massacre because we have not got a gun culture and arming oneself is not a given or implied right in our constitution so it was a pretty easy sell. Indeed I imagine in our population the percentage of people who have never even handled a gun is very high. Farmers, naturally, have and use them but in the cities they are simply not or have never been required because we are a safe and peaceful democracy.
@@skyemiddletonx9006yeah, our gun culture is like that of mainland Europe: gun ownership is an ongoing duty of responsibility, whether for defence from wild animals in the outback or the sportsmanship of target shooting; it's not for an automatic civilian right to use lethal force, even in self-defence, against other humans
We have these in my country every couple of years as well, but they're not aimed at reducing the total number of guns, just the number of illegally held guns. Through this program, you can turn in your illegally held gun, get a gun licence, and even get the gun back, assuming it's not in a banned category, wasn't used in a crime or was modified in a way to not be dangerous anymore (for historical pieces...). During the last "amnesty", one guy actually turned in an SD-100 tank destroyer and a T34/85 tank, which I believe he was allowed to get back as historical pieces once they were "disarmed".
@@keonyang3332most people who become criminals were normal people at one point. If a normal person with a gun becomes desperate and resorts to crime they will do a lot more damage than a desperate person without a gun. Just by restricting its access to normal people automatically kids lose access to them (good), random muggings from isolated individuals go way down (good), and gun suicides go way down (very good).
@@keonyang3332 that's not really the point of our program, in fact, like I said, they check if the gun was used to commit a crime, the point is that illegaly held guns are (obviously) harder to track, or the owner, who can just be a collector, can sell it to someone who wants to commit a crime etc., so it's not really about disarming the criminals, more about making it harder for them to get a gun... And since my country actually has a really low rate of violent crimes comitted with a gun, even though we have a fairly high gun ownership rate, I'd say we're doing at least something right...
As a Canadian, many people are surprised to see we have the 5th most guns per person in the world, and second if you only count first world countries. Turns out, we have a lot of hunters!
Impossible. I was told that having lots of guns means that everyone will shoot each other. Are you trying to say that there’s actual socioeconomic reasons for shootings, and not just the existence of an inanimate objects ?
Which makes sense, given that Canada has more land than the U.S. and about a tenth of the population. Meanwhile, the U.S. has more guns than people, and the sizable majority of those guns are owned by ~10% of the adult population.
@@Dumbledore6969x its also the fact that canada makes it hard to get pistols, which are actually more used in gang violence than restricting "ar15's" because big and scary
@@Dumbledore6969x there's still a ship ton m9re guns, as well as gun deaths in the USA. Canada only has a lot of gums compared to other countries USA is in a class of its own.
Just got a little disappointed by not mentioning Brasil's initiative between 2003 and 2008, where more than 570.000 guns were bought back by government. In the comming years of 2019 to 2022 of Bolsonaro, more than 600000 guns got sold to regular citizens with far more unrestricted criteria.
@@nlsdrf1290 🤦♂️"10 years following" that means is between 2009-2018, where Bolsonaro wasn't even elected yet. In fact, during is presidency, gun violence actually decrease, because everyone could have a gun no one risk using it against others.
I've worked a number of these buybacks. Nearly all of the weapons were handed in by next of kin who didn't want guns they had inherited. The second most common were people getting a few bucks out of an old piece of junk that would have been more dangerous as a club than as a firearm. I once had a mother turn in a working firearm that she said belonged to her son, and she feared he might use it on himself. That was the only gun that really needed to be taken off the street, out of hundreds surrendered.
I think the big problem if this was implemented in the United States is that the agency in charge of doing this would be the ATF and majority of citizens hate them. It’s also so imbedded in US culture to own guns
It's not fair to say it is embedded. But rather it was embedded through a few decades of lobbying. 50 years ago, the situation was vastly different. It's a fairly recent development.
@@DickenMifrensmamIII welp, Statista seems to disagree, you were at 43% households ownership according to them. And yeah, it was levels fairly common with many european countries. That said, the nature of the market was probably fairly different at the time. More hunters, less military fanboys and anti-government militants. And the NRA was remarquably different. The situation was far closer to France for example at the time. The US just took... a different path let's say.
@@marcbuisson2463 well considering the statistics that I can send you say that there’s less gun owners now than 50 years ago, I would say you’re wrong. Again 70% of families in the 70s owned guns while in 2023 it’s 43%.
Strange that they're associated with individuality, aren't there many identical guns of the same model. Or do you customise them like a car? I don't really get the car thing either so maybe it's something I can't understand.
@@sallygrasso1448 yeah there's always customization but not that kind of individuality. individuality as in self reliance and ability to provide for oneself. not to be mistaken for "I'm special and unique" but "I don't necessarily need outside help to handle a given situation". cars also represent a similar feeling of individuality. you can get into your vehicle and go anywhere, anytime.
If you take guns away from a populace, you have to also take them away from the government so the power dynamic is balanced. A government should not be able to dominate its people. Also, it is a matter of time before any society spawns an authoritarian. When that happens you need an armed populace to remove such a person. It’s nice to think we live in a civilized world where this can’t happen, but our species is not that evolved.
"Also, it is a matter of time before any society spawns an authoritarian. When that happens you need an armed populace to remove such a person." How'd that go with the tyranny of segregation?
@@ratofvengence Indeed if minorities were armed (difficult to obtain due to heavy racism) perhaps they could have better fought back against the heinous racism and violence they faced in the past. Would've saved alot of their lives and liveliehoods. Luckily we moved passed that and they can arm themselves today.
I find it strange that you only looked at mass shootings and suicides committed with firearms after Port Arthur and not homicides committed with firearms before and after.
And the graphs are pretty much the same. An argument could be made that they were going down before the Port Arthur massacre, but there is a noticeable drop after the reforms were put into place.
@@almondsai7214 If you look at the graphs for last 50 years of gun crime in Australia and calculate an average rate before and after the gun ban they are virtually the same. Yes, gun crime dropped in bigger rate for a while than it was before ban, but then it went up, the average stays the same. There is no statistical evidence that ban had any positive impact.
@@Marcin-cz4yp I don't know what graphs you've been looking at but all the ones I've found say otherwise. Pretty much all of them show that after the 1996 Massacre both gun related crime and gun deaths went down. The rate at which gun crime and deaths is decreasing by is the same, but the actual figure is lower.
@@almondsai7214 And ive said it. It dropped down. But it was steadily dropping before the ban. We cannot prove, that this ban had any effect on the rate in which the gun crime is dropping, because the average rate before, and after is the same.
@@ratofvengenceliterally all of you were forced to get the jab, stay inside and do what the government says when they say it. Tell me your free again because some index says so…..
@@nobot6177 Bwahaha! Noone was 'forced' to be vaccinated kiddo, but just like 'Murica, some vocations have mandatory vaccinations. Yes, we had lockdowns, supported by the vast majority because unlike the US, we care for each other. That's why we have a FRACTION the excess deaths rate you suffered from. And yes, EVERY freedom index boy.
you are correct about the sentiment of many vocal americans but if the constitution can be amended to add rights it can be amended to repealed them. such as the 18th amendment being repealed by the 21st.
@@mistertubby The amendment would be proposed by either passing both houses of the Congress with 2/3 of the vote or be passed by a Constitutional convention requested by 2/3 of the States. Once formally proposed the amendment must then be ratified by 3/4 of the States before it would be adopted. That will never happen in the near future with the current US public opinion.
The constitution only protects my rights, Rights are inalienable. They are not granted by a government. Trying to take away rights from citizens is tyranny. That is exactly why the second amendment was included in the bill of rights. To enable citizens to protect themselves from tyrannical government. Nope, you can not have my guns.
@@primalreversion7034 successful where? please dont say australia lol i live here and trust me it wasnt as successful as these anti gun media reporters play it out to be
And Australia is safer because of less guns, but in statistics it shows 5% higher rapes, double the burglaries, 12% more auto thefts. But what is really good as we let criminals go free and write more laws making law abiding citizens become felons just for protecting themselves, Australia average criminal sentence is 44% longer than in the US. Maybe the trick to stopping violent crime is throwing the criminals in jail and keeping them there.
Heres the thing: It'll only work if its mandatory, but it won't have enough support if its mandatory. So nothing will happen. Guns are far too popular and engrained into culture within the US.
@@antishulk Australia needed a wake up call in the form of a mass shooting to change its mind. Meanwhile, the US has grown desensitized to massacres in schools.
The part this whole debate misses - American gun owners sunk a lot of money into guns. The average gun owner has spent approx $5-10,000 USD If you have half the population giving guns up. Who pays for the loss? I can tell you most - aside from being unwilling - certainly are not ok to get Pennies on the dollar for their expenses and investment.
@@alecubudulecu fair prices were paid for the Australian buy back, as noted in the video. If USA can find a trillion dollars down the back of the couch for their army, surely they'll find a similar amount for a gun buy back? Surely??
It wont even work if it is mandatory. Have you seen the compliance numbers on the recent pistol with stabilizing brace rule? At best 8% of owners chose to register them in compliance with the ATF, at worst, 0.6%. If american gun owners are so defiant that they wont even register a gun accessory, how well do you think a mandate to turn in their firearms will go over. Oh, by the way, you'd have to repeal the 2nd amendment first which would require a 2/3 supermajority vote. Good luck with that and trying to track down over 400 million unregistered firearms. 😂
The ATF has recently attempted to reclassify pistols with braces as short barrel rifles. Out of the millions of braced pistols, only a fraction attempted to register. That’s probably the best sort of result you could expect if the government attempted a “gun buyback.”
Lol, letting any fool have access to guns doesn't stop tyranny. It didn't prevent the tyranny of segregation, nor did it end it. Interment? That still happened...
I think unfortunately the key is people must be shocked and outraged by mass shootings. Seems that this ship has sailed, if this amount if school shootings hasnt wokenpeople up, what would it take?
Given how the US can’t go a day without some sort of shooting happening. I think it’s safe to say that Most people in the US has either become desensitized or accepted that shootings everyday is normal in a country that has more guns than people.
Well, it wasn't quite complete guns but there were actually cases of people making and selling gun parts to the government in the time of the Australian "buy back".
I'll never forget Clint Eastwood's response to gun buybacks: "Gun buybacks are like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids."
A lot of people overlook the fact that gun control worked here in Australia partly because of Australia's unique territorial situation. Australia is technically an island continent which doesn't share borders with any other nation. Thus, when our government issued strict gun control laws, they worked because it wasn't as easy for people to illegally import guns into the country across our borders. I think this is a key factor which determined the success of our gun control laws. Because countries like the U.S. and Serbia don't share the same territorial conditions, I am not sure how successful gun control laws would be in those countries.
In the US our problems are within our own borders. You can Google “iron pipeline” -it’s a common term for the interstate used to smuggle guns into states with stricter gun control laws. There are people here who seem to see guns as part of their religion. Meanwhile children don’t feel safe going to school and mass shootings are nearly a daily occurrence but gun defenders will say it’s not the guns. It’s sickening.
@Raygunomics Actually that is false. Studies have shown that the majority of guns used in crime came from the same state. This is yet another fallacy to misinformed and blame other states for gun control not working because evil evils and criminals criminal.
Well a lot of people dont realize or care that Australia never has or had a constitutional guaranteed right to gun ownership. We do. Thus is why, whatever Australia, UK what have you do, does not matter over here because the 2A and the Constitution are specific restrictions on government power and control.
Good luck collecting 300 millions of unregistred firearms. The ban will only affect the normal, ordinary citizens. Gang members and people who have been planning a mass shooting for months or years will still get them, just illegaly.
And in places that dont have the second ammendment. Criminals in the US wont follow a "mandatory" buyback. So quick math for the US: (law abiding citizens with guns + criminals with guns) - law anding citizens with guns = criminals with guns. Nothing changed.
@@jaxjax2011 Comprehensive gun control reduces homicides and suicides. Owning a gun makes you way more likely to act on your suicidal thoughts. I know that if I had a gun, I wouldn't be alive today but thankfully, I never had a "quick and easy" way to unalive myself. As for killings, the US has the highest homicide rate among rich countries. Unfortunately, I don't see this changing anytime soon, Americans love their guns too much. Who cares about kids, amirite?
Oh, no, gun control advocates looking only at single metrics that paint an inaccurate picture to push the idea that gun control works? Say it isn't so.
If the citizens don't have guns the police shouldn't have them either. The government is just as irresponsible with them (if not more so) as the average citizen.
I remember growing up in the Pacific Northwest and hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting when I was in Middle School. It disturbed me greatly, but there was also a cushion of distance and a feeling of safety I felt, knowing that "the odds are that that doesn't happen to me." It comforted me as a kid in school to feel like this was a uniquely grotesque tragedy that may happen once every five years or so, in a place still geographically distant from myself. Nowadays, as a college student with two younger siblings and a daughter, none of that selfish cushion I could alott myself as an anxious child remains. I fear for each younger cousin I have when they grow old enough to enter public school. We have lockdowns at my campus sometimes when the nearby high school is theatened, which happens so often I cannot wrap my mind around it. There is no escaping this issue, is my point. Yet nowhere in the progression of devastating events that led us through the years between my naive childhood and our current reality did we draw a line in the sand. We have recieved nothing but lip service, will continue to recieve little beyond that, and the frustration I and so many other younger people feel at that complacency in the face of mass death is hard to describe. Some part of me hopes we can finally hit that point where the pressure mounts and there is no longer any way for our representatives to run from the havoc their inaction perpetuates. The other half of me is just petrified to imagine what horror could possibly jolt the nation out of its lull of inefficiency. Regardless, I appreciate the effort Serbia is making now. I commend them for attempting to do something to help, and even if its effectiveness may be dampened by a lack of compensation or enforcement, it could still show another model we may structure future movements around here in the states.
Better laws would help. But they don't solve the actual problem. FYI, your fear and distrust is PART of the problem. We need to get rid of the stigma against mental healthcare. We need to get rid of Gun Culture. And we need to fix a system that keeps MOST people frustrated and powerless, because most people ARE. This isn't JUST a problem of irresponsible gun owners allowing a hormone-drunk (pre)teen to get their hands on a firearm. A healthy person with opportunity and agency doesn't shoot up a mall. Declawing an abused cat so it can't attack people doesn't really solve the "problem". It is still being abused. It still has teeth.
@@jubal6654 Welcome to "You are part of the problem". Coffee and juice are on the table over there. Villainizing a group, no matter how wrong some members of that group are, isn't a good "solution" to a problem.
Number of gun owners vs number of guns per resident are two totally different things. There’s a subculture of gun enthusiast that will heavily skew this data.
If anything they're skewing the data in the wrong direction for what I suspect is your point. Comparable countries with actually sane gun regulation will generally have more of their firearms in the hands of gun nuts and collectors as average people won't be nearly as interested in going through the hassle just to own a single weapon that they have to keep locked in a safe pretty much the entire time they have it.
The most important part is recognizing the political culture. I'm pretty sure in none of these countries the right to defend yourself with deadly force is in their constitution and the ability to make yourself a ghost gun didn't exists. The US right now shares a lot of similarities with Yugoslavia (High debt load, high amounts of corruption and polarization, and a loss of faith in the system). It's probably more important to fix the underlying caused than to come up with a temporary solution to one symptom if you want to avoid sharing the same fate.
It ain't the guns. When I was a little kid anyone could walk into any hardware store and buy a gun. No questions asked, just put the money on the counter and leave with the gun. Gun crime wasn't a big deal. Today our cities with the strictest gun laws lead the country in gun crime. In 2022 the following cities had these murders, Chicago 695, Los Angeles 382, Baltimore 333, Detroit 309, DC 203, St. Louis 196, Seattle 52 and Newark 50. Almost none of these murders were committed with so called assault weapons.
When you limited information on firearms and make the simplest piece of plastic or metal part illegal. What does that do?... It increases "crime" and "felons". It also increase Accidents.
The problem is people with guns who shouldn't have guns. Also with those statistics, you should be taking into account the population. Of course, the largest populations are going to have the most gun murders. Also, the talk about bans on assault weapons is because that is what is mostly used in mass shootings, not because they are used in homicides or suicides. The only valid reason to not want common sense gun laws is that it gets votes.
@@jl789nz You don't consider the murders I mentioned to be mass murder? 695 in Chicago sounds like mass murder to me and what "common sense gun control" will you propose that will change that number? I don't know what an assault weapon is and I'm pretty knowledgeable about guns. I'll guess by assault weapon you mean a rifle of some kind and virtually none of the murders being committed in some our cities use a rifle.
@@amosjsoma There so much more to it than just gun laws though, and it's a funny coincidence that the party who advocates for less gun laws are also the party that would vote down social programs to help a community with things like mental health.
If Australia's 'buy back' was so popular, why are the majority of people complaining now? Especially since the government has had sweeping draconian laws passed against the citizens?
"why are the majority of people complaining now?" They aren't. "the government has had sweeping draconian laws passed against the citizens?" Lol, such as?
That's because the gun lobby have the politicians in their pockets. One of two things should happen, either ban lobbyists or elect people that won't take money from the lobbyists. Both would be ideal.
Can't get ideas out there without talking about them. Having the discussion alone is worthwhile, even when there's no expectation of it happening in the US anytime soon. Not to mention Vox is watched worldwide (though this was obviously targeted to Americans - albeit mostly preaching to the choir as Vox is generally targeting a left-leaning audience).
The thing here in Australia is semi-automatic firearms aren’t banned, only heavily restricted to certain people, such as farmers and contractors hired to dispatch animals, from rabbits to kangaroos which may be destroying property.
I'm here in West Aus, i have 2 semi auto handguns, a .357 revolver, mum and dad have semi auto pistols. I'm happy with the restrictions we have, but there are heaps of us with semi autos.
You people keep comparing other countries to the usa about GUNS. Here is the difference for you in one word: Constitution. It is not written & protected fervently in any other countries constitution. It is our "god given right... to bear arms" written by our founding fathers and protected by our entire government system. I.E. checks and balance. Even if some tyrant or hippie tried to remove the 2nd amendment, it is not going to pass as law because of how our law procedure works. Not to mention our supreme court whose literal job is to uphold the constitutional law. And our military branches who are all sworn to the constitution (not to the President!) to defend it. GOOD LUCK.
"Here is the difference for you in one word: Constitution." Are you even aware every nation has one of these? "It is our "god given right... to bear arms"" God has nothing to say about letting any fool have access to firearms.
austrail gun ban was from one person and the population was against the gun ban, the gun ban made violent crime,rapes,home invasions and shootings go way up, and yes they still had mass shootings. there are more guns now in australia then before the gun ban..
@@Mcfunface I'm not wrong at all. Australian Institute of Criminology homicide data. In 2001-02 the homicide victim rate was 1.92/100,000. In 2020-21 it was 0.86, well less than half. So by what measure do you claim I am wrong?
As an Australian, I feel I would have a better understanding of my country than a country where 17.3 million people (63% of Australia's population as a reference) think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. And after some research, the rate is 1.02.
I remember the gun buy backs in California. The cities offered $100 per gun. So people went out and bought $39 Mosin Nagants and sold them to the cities. Its also a good way to hide or destroy arms linked to crimes.
I always love how people point and look to Australia, while conveniently ignoring the fact that they are an island country. While guns can still be smuggled in via sea, it is many times more difficult than going across a land border.
If there is a national disarming of U.S citizens, the only people with guns will be the government and cops. And when there is someone in power who may threaten the fabric of the nation, who will be there to uphold the rights of its citizens ? Most of the governments thriving today are the result of a revolution overthrowing the last which were overstepping boundaries. Gun laws are great when a population doesn't need guns at the moment, but when you do need them, what can you do against those using them against you?
It’s a futile argument at this point. I agree with you, but easily half the world’s population is subhuman cattle. They will do as their told by their superiors, and if that order is to disarm, they will disarm.
The public have the right to defend themselves from the tyranny of an unjust government as well as to defend land and property from unwanted trespass and seizure .
In Australia they just changed the wording of legally purchased weapon to being illegal and forced its citizens to give up there guns or face jail time.
Throughout the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s semi auto firearms were legally imported into Australia in the millions and millions - many of them ex military in origin. In some instances there were millions of individual models and hundreds of thousands of others. Just 640,000 of all types were taken by the government in 1996. Presumably the rest are still out there somewhere but WHERE is any bodies guess. Australia's rate of firearms related crime has continued to fall at the same rate as it was before '96. Many of our gun laws have been written by people that clearly have no idea what they're doing and would leave you wondering what sort of half wits are running the show were I to list some of them! Compulsory registration is a farcical clown show! You could be forgiven for thinking that 30 years and billions of dollars would be long enough and enough money to work out how to run such a system but the reality is that there STILL isn't a state that can maintain a simple list of property against a list of names with any degree of acceptable accuracy or efficiency. In fact, the Western Australian Auditor General stated that the WA system was so grossly inaccurate that it couldn't be fixed! The other states aren't much better. The "buyback" did nothing but destroy trust in government waste a staggering amount of money that continues to be wasted.
Quick point on the couple of mass shootings in Australia in the last decade: those are closely linked to DV and also to the loosening of gun laws that has been occurring due to gun lobbyists infiltration of political parties. Gun deaths in Australia are way down, but we're still seeing issues.
How are "mass" shootings closely related to domestic violence? In the US, and I'd assume in most of the Western World, gun violence associate with domestic violence occurs in the actual domicile. Or, if outside the home it's a targeted attack on the spouse, not walking into a public building and unloading into Randoms.
@@bufordhighwater9872 one of the three mass shootings in the graph was from someone shooting his entire family. That is DV and because of the number killed a mass shooting. And mass shootings don't have to be against random people or outside of the home. They just have be enough dead people. And as with most gun stats worldwide, there is a lot of deliberate/unintentional misclassification of deaths/injuries. What counts as DV in one police report might be recorded as regular assault/murder in another.
Not here they don't. First of all, I abhor the term "buyback". You can't buy something back that you didn't own in the first place. The phrase subtly suggests guns belong to the government and that they merely "allow" you to have them. Two, the police around here conducted one of these discount firearm sales for themselves. They collected just shy of 2 dozen guns, in a town of about 5 or 6 thousand. I believe 9 of them were broken and missing parts, 12 were old, cheap, beat up hunting rifles, and the last 2 were most likely hot guns that looked like someone attempted to file off the serial numbers. Needless to say, they were very disappointed and its never been tried again. America's guns are not for sale
as someone who appreciates the technology and history of guns it saddens me to see so many guns destroyed without a second thought. I sincerely hope that my neighbors (Serbia) will do the right thing and put the most valuable and historically important rifles in appropriate collections and museums, or at least allow legal, mentally healthy and verified individuals to buy them and keep them in their collections. It is true that guns on the streets are a great evil and danger, but a rifle can also be a piece of art and craftsmanship.
The guns destroyed were those that wouldn't be legal to own without a licence that would be difficult to get. The majority were a bunch of boring mass produced pump actions
Most museums that display firearms have a much greater number in storage that will never be shown. The vast majority of the guns being destroyed are not rare.
Yes, as a Romanian with *Serbian* friends I can attest to the obsession Serbians reserve towards weapons. Truth being said most Romanian people I know buy their guns from Serbia, from private owners, including my uncle, an ex-sergeant in the Romanian army.
This worked well for Ukraine, Germany, China, Hong Kong, (soon to be) Taiwan, Israel, and Russia. Nothing bad ever happened in these countries. Keep scrolling 😉😂
I live in Britain I have been robbed twice and stabbed 47 times I'm not in any gang. I wish it was legal to carry a handgun if you have a license imagine if citizens could defend themselves how quickly knife-crime would go down muggings home invasions . do you know they advertise in London for people to not wear a watch otherwise you will get robbed at knife point most likely
the last school shooting in the UK was 1996. we had a gun amnesty too. we are safer and freer than the US because of it. and don’t try to compare a semi automatic military killing machine with a kitchen knife; it ‘ant the same.
There is not much illusion outside of the US about the fact that half that country is ok with children being mowed down by mini-guns. I think it's pretty well established.
As a Serb, i'd tell You that it's actually uplifting because Serbia is trying to make a change now and is by the size of Maryland. US will never be able to revert their law and reduce gun possession because of the sheer size and mentality of the people. In Serbia, there's only 5mil of us, we at least have a chance to disapear from the map of gun possession in a fast way...or so we hope.
@@dduleyt Why should we want to get rid of our guns when we don't have a gun problem? Serbia has the same murder rate as the UK. Guns aren't the issue.
I like how they immediately jump to the idea that more guns = more death which isn't the case and makes this whole argument pointless. most countries with the highest murder rate aren't even in the top 50 of gun ownership.
This piece ignores the cost. Who pays for a gun buyback? Approx half of Americans own guns. Most have approx $5k to $10k invested in firearms. That’s $1.3 Trillion USD. You think those folks will just happily take the financial hit?
It also assumes every state and police force will just comply. I don't see rural red county sheriff's complying with a mandatory gun buyback especially if their states don't either
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv of course. I mean If usa could magically get to the point where it’d be considered. Which it won’t. Then there’s the actual bill. I personally know dozens of folks in firearms community with 50-150k worth of guns. They won’t be like “here. You can have them for $10” And you betcha they would lawyer up and fight tooth and nail against this. Multiply that by millions of people like that.
I feel Australian law enforcement in several of the states went overboard since airsoft guns and gel blasters are considered firearms based on the belief that somehow, they could be converted into real guns. This is despite that these replica weapons are made from plastic and aluminum and would explode if real ammunition was somehow jammed into them.
I honestly can't believe they picked Australia as an example of working gun-laws. That said, you could absolutely convert those toys into working weapons. You could also, with the same effort, build a firearm from hardware store parts. So it isn't really a 'good' argument.
It's not only the sheer amount of guns that causes this uniquely American problem. It's also the nation's gun culture: the belief that it's normal or even desirable for regular citizens to have guns around, to be preoccupied with them and thinking about every imaginable scenario where it might be considered ok to use them. In my corner of the world, if we knew people like that, huge red flags would be raised by people around them, instead of saying "well it is their right and the pinnacle of our exceptionalism". Everybody, say, in Europe, realizes this but it in the US it never registers that it shouldn't be considered normal to have guns in the first place.
We're taught (somewhat subconsciously) that the "good guy with a gun" mentality is not only correct, but also true. I think the majority of gun-owning US citizens are convinced that there will be a point where they- and only they- can stop some massive situation from transpiring.
Exactly. As a European, it was pretty strange and scary to see a random dude shopping with a gun on his belt or to see guns being sold in Walmart while no one bats an eye. I think the US will never have a comprehensive gun laws.
@@_blank-_ "I think the US will never have comprehensive gun laws." Look, I don't usually comment on everything gun-related because it's a complicated subject, but I do think the US WILL have comprehensive gun laws. It's just that the spider web needs to be untangled so that it's easier for you to walk smoothly, but I don't know the solution to this. It's not as straightforward as asking someone for a beer.
@@revolution1237 26 states have enacted constitutional carry and it's only a matter of time till the Supreme Court shoots down all the rest. You're on the losing side of this battle.
@@BriManeely this is EXACTLY the issue. (Its the same problem with police violence) These people (mostly white men) have this fantasy in their head of getting to play Rambo and be a savior
NO it was trash for cash People sold their crappie guns for cash went out and brought brand new ones Only 1/3 off guns were sold and now we have more then prior to the buyback
The craziest part of our buyback here in Australia was it was the conservative party that made the decision, would be like the Republican party in the US passing gun control.
The Republican party has often pushed for gun control. All governments push for gun control. An armed populace is not in the best interest of the government.
It makes you proud to be an Aussie doesn’t it
Australia being world leading as usual
Should even go further to stop criminals. Allow a month where people can turn in their illegal/unregistered guns, and when its passed, anyone that is found with an illegal gun receives capital punishment, like in Singapore
@@obrandondonaldson1208 that opens up a whole other can of worms regarding the ethics of capital punishment
@@esshor.bot ahh
The most shocking part about the Serbian weapon surrender is the amount of grenades they received.
I wonder how they handle them. Does someone drop off a box of grenades at a local amnesty center that's been rented out of a business plaza?
Ye
Why is Serbia ahead of the US in grenade ownership? The citizens of the US must unite to correct this shortcoming.
True. I'm blown away by that fact
civil war just ended merely 20 years, some serbs millitias are still very powerful
An intresting fact that came to light a few years back is that Australia has more guns now (3.6 million) than it did when port Arthur happpened (3.2 million) and from 2.1 guns per gun owner in 1997 to 3.9 guns per owner. With fewer people owning guns but more guns per licence holder.
I guess that points to the registering and license requirements meaning that generally responsible people will be owning guns compared to every other random nutcase.
@@samrichards8251That's pretty optimistic, to put it lightly. In reality it's probably extremists and super dedicated gun lovers/collectors buying them.
@@BlueClouds-tp2ds Would still have a beneficial effect. Given there isn't much utility or additional risk in using multiple guns at once, the stat that matters in most cases is the total number of people with access to a gun. More concentrated gun ownership still means fewer people with gun access,
@Dani I’m guessing the majority of the people who had guns before the national firearms act didn’t register their guns (because there was no need) and that the number of guns owned would be greater than the estimated 3.2 million
@@BlueClouds-tp2ds I don't think so, I've lived in rural Australia for decades, and I've known a lot of gun owners. They are almost exclusively farmers and such; people that have such weapons for their work (pest control, etc). I've known a lot of random nutcases who have tried to acquire a gun (myself included) but have been unable to jump through all the legal hoops. And I most certainly shouldn't be in possession of one lol
We, Myanmar citizens are experiencing gun violence too but, in our case, our own military is the one doing it. Will there be any gun restriction program for this?
The myanmar people have been building guns as well. They make fgc9s
And that's why, we the US of A won't give up our rights.
i wished the u.s funded your people against the government lol
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Australia's gun buyback amnesty was only part of it - from there on, we also had very strict gun registration and gun licensing laws. It took a friend of mine that wanted a rifle for hunting rabbits on his farm almost a year to get approved to get a license, then a 6 month wait to be able to buy his rifle.
It's seriously difficult to get a gun license. At the most basic level you need to be a rural property owner, or to be gainfully employed in an occupation where the gun is required (pest control, farming or such). Even just these two requirements already rule out the vast majority of irresponsible nutcases.
come and take them. ironically youll need guns to do it. america has a very different temperament and tradition than austrialia. if what was done there were attempted here, well, lets just say there is a comically numerical disadvantage to the people that would be tasked to seize them. and they would not survive that attempt.
That's reasonable wait
@@torgo_you mean in Australia, right?
@@cwg9238oh lord shut up
The adults are talking
I made $3500 selling 3d printed Glock frames with no metal parts to the Utica NY police department at a gun buyback 😂
Congrats!
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Nice
That’s awesome. That means they have less money to do innocent people into giving up their firearms when everybody knows that the criminals will never give up their firearms
@@jeffreyburney6161 It's NY, so they have unlimited money to spend on pointless gun control ventures.
I think one important thing to consider about Australian gun laws is this: Australians are allowed to buy guns, you just need to acquire/continually renew a license, and there is a restriction on the types of firearms allowed, and on the reason for owning a gun. Gun laws are mostly not about taking away guns, but rather about making guns are only placed in safe hands, and making sure incredibly powerful firearms aren't on the market.
I love guns. All kinds. I have over 600 of them. Everytime I go to the range store, I see another one I like so I'll buy that one too.
One of the most important parts of our gun laws, is that Self Defence is not a valid reason for owning a firearm, nor should it be
I wish videos discussing Australia's gun laws talked about this. Most videos just make it sound like guns were banned and all guns were removed.
@@TheRedMammothimagine actually believing you do not have a right to defend yourself or your family from harm. 😂
@@MrScissor90 Imagine believing that you need semiautomatic weapons to do that. Unless of course you're a lousy shot.
Doesn’t matter is if automatic, semi, or whatever, the gun ain’t the problem it’s the people
Okay? So why give the people the tools for violence?
@@chazer0075To stop the others who already have the tools.
NOBODY gives them the tools for violence. Any attempt to remove any guns in the USA needs to be 100% focused strictly on those who are illegally using them@@chazer0075
@@chazer0075 so we should restrict every human from sledge hammers, cars, knifes, bc they are "tOoLs oF viOlEnce"
So you’re saying Americans are just naturally the most violent people on the planet?
It wasn’t an easy sell. State Politicians supported it, full well knowing it would cost them winning their next election. For example the conservative Queensland Premier of 1996 had a lot of heated resistance from rural and remote communities. He supported the scheme knowing that he could - and would - lose the 1998 State election. And he did. Australia is a big country and support wasn’t the same everywhere. The outcome was though and that’s all that really mattered. It need a very tough government the most.
Political self-sacrifice in the name of principles is a lesson Americans really need to learn. Not a single US politician would ever tank their career in the name of doing what's right (without first getting caught doing something wrong, at least). Not. A single. One.
@@jriceblue Confiscating guns is not right, no
conservatives willing to do the right thing no matter the cost, wish we still had some of those. Now all we get is clowns and the circuses that follow them
So you’re saying a politician going against the will of the people he represents is a… good thing?
Championing democracy *but only when it does something I want it to do.
It worked in Australia after the Port Arthur massacre because we have not got a gun culture and arming oneself is not a given or implied right in our constitution so it was a pretty easy sell. Indeed I imagine in our population the percentage of people who have never even handled a gun is very high. Farmers, naturally, have and use them but in the cities they are simply not or have never been required because we are a safe and peaceful democracy.
How do you not have a gun culture when Australia's fauna is so lethal?
@@Argonnosi because we feed them tourists
@@Argonnosi 90% of lethal fauna in Australia can be killed with a shoe.
Nah we have a gun culture, just not like the one in the US. We just don't have the level of entitlement
@@skyemiddletonx9006yeah, our gun culture is like that of mainland Europe: gun ownership is an ongoing duty of responsibility, whether for defence from wild animals in the outback or the sportsmanship of target shooting; it's not for an automatic civilian right to use lethal force, even in self-defence, against other humans
We have these in my country every couple of years as well, but they're not aimed at reducing the total number of guns, just the number of illegally held guns.
Through this program, you can turn in your illegally held gun, get a gun licence, and even get the gun back, assuming it's not in a banned category, wasn't used in a crime or was modified in a way to not be dangerous anymore (for historical pieces...). During the last "amnesty", one guy actually turned in an SD-100 tank destroyer and a T34/85 tank, which I believe he was allowed to get back as historical pieces once they were "disarmed".
Do you legitimately think that a criminal would turn in their gun.
I love the Czech republic, and I am considering moving there, greetings from Colombia.
@keonyang3332 It's not about what this person *thinks*; it's about the facts of what weapons were turned in. Plenty were guns held illegally.
@@keonyang3332most people who become criminals were normal people at one point. If a normal person with a gun becomes desperate and resorts to crime they will do a lot more damage than a desperate person without a gun.
Just by restricting its access to normal people automatically kids lose access to them (good), random muggings from isolated individuals go way down (good), and gun suicides go way down (very good).
@@keonyang3332 that's not really the point of our program, in fact, like I said, they check if the gun was used to commit a crime, the point is that illegaly held guns are (obviously) harder to track, or the owner, who can just be a collector, can sell it to someone who wants to commit a crime etc., so it's not really about disarming the criminals, more about making it harder for them to get a gun... And since my country actually has a really low rate of violent crimes comitted with a gun, even though we have a fairly high gun ownership rate, I'd say we're doing at least something right...
As a Canadian, many people are surprised to see we have the 5th most guns per person in the world, and second if you only count first world countries. Turns out, we have a lot of hunters!
Impossible. I was told that having lots of guns means that everyone will shoot each other. Are you trying to say that there’s actual socioeconomic reasons for shootings, and not just the existence of an inanimate objects ?
Which makes sense, given that Canada has more land than the U.S. and about a tenth of the population. Meanwhile, the U.S. has more guns than people, and the sizable majority of those guns are owned by ~10% of the adult population.
@@Dumbledore6969x its also the fact that canada makes it hard to get pistols, which are actually more used in gang violence than restricting "ar15's" because big and scary
@@Dumbledore6969x there's still a ship ton m9re guns, as well as gun deaths in the USA. Canada only has a lot of gums compared to other countries USA is in a class of its own.
types of firearms matter as well. CCP also sold "hunting rifles" to Russia recently which are likely assault rifles
I like how they completely left out New Zealand where the gun buyback completely failed.
How, exactly, did it fail?
It failed in Australia also.
and how Suicides are higher now than before guns were removed.
@@HiNickCareshow?
@@stuff1013 After the buyback gun crime and crime in general fell at the same rate it was falling at before the buy back.
How a government is able to buy "back" something they never owned?
And the gun owners couldn't exactly choose not to sell "back" to the government either. Just a twist on words really.
@@YourLittleDeath Yep, newspeak for confiscation
Just got a little disappointed by not mentioning Brasil's initiative between 2003 and 2008, where more than 570.000 guns were bought back by government. In the comming years of 2019 to 2022 of Bolsonaro, more than 600000 guns got sold to regular citizens with far more unrestricted criteria.
There is nothing good to say about Brazil, in the 10 years following disarmament, homicides by firearms rose by almost 30% in the country
Yes!! Very very upsetting/disturbing.
@@Masturafa Exactly! We have more homicides by firearm now than in the 90's when there were no gun laws!
@@Masturafa yeah, because of bolsonaro
@@nlsdrf1290 🤦♂️"10 years following" that means is between 2009-2018, where Bolsonaro wasn't even elected yet. In fact, during is presidency, gun violence actually decrease, because everyone could have a gun no one risk using it against others.
26k guns in Serbia doesn't seem that impressive when there's 3M guns around. Less than 1%.
I've worked a number of these buybacks. Nearly all of the weapons were handed in by next of kin who didn't want guns they had inherited. The second most common were people getting a few bucks out of an old piece of junk that would have been more dangerous as a club than as a firearm. I once had a mother turn in a working firearm that she said belonged to her son, and she feared he might use it on himself. That was the only gun that really needed to be taken off the street, out of hundreds surrendered.
I’m guessing that mother considered it worth doing
worth it
I hope that son dealt with his so called "mother" appropriately
@@GreekAssassi I have a feeling that you are mentally unstable enough to not be allowed a gun.
@@GreekAssassi can't think of a more ignorant response. And I am a responsible gun owner.
I think the big problem if this was implemented in the United States is that the agency in charge of doing this would be the ATF and majority of citizens hate them. It’s also so imbedded in US culture to own guns
It's not fair to say it is embedded. But rather it was embedded through a few decades of lobbying. 50 years ago, the situation was vastly different. It's a fairly recent development.
@@marcbuisson2463 its been embedded since the first colonists landed on the shores of the Americas
@@marcbuisson2463no if you knew about guns, it’s the exact opposite. 46% of families own guns now, and 50 years ago in 1970 70% of families own guns
@@DickenMifrensmamIII welp, Statista seems to disagree, you were at 43% households ownership according to them. And yeah, it was levels fairly common with many european countries. That said, the nature of the market was probably fairly different at the time. More hunters, less military fanboys and anti-government militants. And the NRA was remarquably different. The situation was far closer to France for example at the time. The US just took... a different path let's say.
@@marcbuisson2463 well considering the statistics that I can send you say that there’s less gun owners now than 50 years ago, I would say you’re wrong. Again 70% of families in the 70s owned guns while in 2023 it’s 43%.
Why would I sell my guns to the government? We love our guns
Why do you love guns? I'm Australian and I honestly find it very confusing!
@@sallygrasso1448 why do you love your purse or your dog?
@@sallygrasso1448
Firearms represent freedom and individuality
Strange that they're associated with individuality, aren't there many identical guns of the same model. Or do you customise them like a car?
I don't really get the car thing either so maybe it's something I can't understand.
@@sallygrasso1448
yeah there's always customization but not that kind of individuality. individuality as in self reliance and ability to provide for oneself. not to be mistaken for "I'm special and unique" but "I don't necessarily need outside help to handle a given situation". cars also represent a similar feeling of individuality. you can get into your vehicle and go anywhere, anytime.
If you take guns away from a populace, you have to also take them away from the government so the power dynamic is balanced. A government should not be able to dominate its people. Also, it is a matter of time before any society spawns an authoritarian. When that happens you need an armed populace to remove such a person. It’s nice to think we live in a civilized world where this can’t happen, but our species is not that evolved.
"Also, it is a matter of time before any society spawns an authoritarian. When that happens you need an armed populace to remove such a person."
How'd that go with the tyranny of segregation?
@@ratofvengence Indeed if minorities were armed (difficult to obtain due to heavy racism) perhaps they could have better fought back against the heinous racism and violence they faced in the past. Would've saved alot of their lives and liveliehoods. Luckily we moved passed that and they can arm themselves today.
Entirely asinine conjecture. Based in no matter of fact or research.
@@beny7160 Of course, no authoritarian regime ever had or used guns against the people. Right?
Myranmar, China, Russia, Iran, Afganistan, Ethiopia, North Korea, Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Eygpt, Central African Republic, Chad, Eritrea, Laos, Libya, Sadia Arbia, Tajikistan, Yemen, Uzbekistan, Tibet, South Sudan, Somelia, Rwanda, Nicaragua, Equatorial Guinea
But your right, authoritarian governments/dictatorships could never happen today.
I find it strange that you only looked at mass shootings and suicides committed with firearms after Port Arthur and not homicides committed with firearms before and after.
Why? The whole point was to limit guns that could be easily used to do a mass shootings like semi-auto rifles. Australians still own lots of guns.
And the graphs are pretty much the same. An argument could be made that they were going down before the Port Arthur massacre, but there is a noticeable drop after the reforms were put into place.
@@almondsai7214 If you look at the graphs for last 50 years of gun crime in Australia and calculate an average rate before and after the gun ban they are virtually the same. Yes, gun crime dropped in bigger rate for a while than it was before ban, but then it went up, the average stays the same. There is no statistical evidence that ban had any positive impact.
@@Marcin-cz4yp I don't know what graphs you've been looking at but all the ones I've found say otherwise. Pretty much all of them show that after the 1996 Massacre both gun related crime and gun deaths went down. The rate at which gun crime and deaths is decreasing by is the same, but the actual figure is lower.
@@almondsai7214 And ive said it. It dropped down. But it was steadily dropping before the ban. We cannot prove, that this ban had any effect on the rate in which the gun crime is dropping, because the average rate before, and after is the same.
They forgot to mention that after the gun confiscation Australia became an authoritarian police state. Authoritarilia
how
Bwahahaha no :D Australia outranks the US in EVERY freedom index. Go look :)
Bait
@@ratofvengenceliterally all of you were forced to get the jab, stay inside and do what the government says when they say it.
Tell me your free again because some index says so…..
@@nobot6177 Bwahaha! Noone was 'forced' to be vaccinated kiddo, but just like 'Murica, some vocations have mandatory vaccinations. Yes, we had lockdowns, supported by the vast majority because unlike the US, we care for each other. That's why we have a FRACTION the excess deaths rate you suffered from.
And yes, EVERY freedom index boy.
2nd amendment is a fundamental right to Americans. Literally no matter how hard u try, you cannot infringe on that right.
you are correct about the sentiment of many vocal americans but if the constitution can be amended to add rights it can be amended to repealed them. such as the 18th amendment being repealed by the 21st.
@@mistertubby The amendment would be proposed by either passing both houses of the Congress with 2/3 of the vote or be passed by a Constitutional convention requested by 2/3 of the States. Once formally proposed the amendment must then be ratified by 3/4 of the States before it would be adopted. That will never happen in the near future with the current US public opinion.
Felony? 😂 I dont think you can lose rights and still call them a right
The constitution only protects my rights, Rights are inalienable.
They are not granted by a government.
Trying to take away rights from citizens is tyranny. That is exactly why the second amendment was included in the bill of rights. To enable citizens to protect themselves from tyrannical government.
Nope, you can not have my guns.
Gun rights are human rights
Guns aren't humans actually ❤
@@chazer0075 I had to cover my guns ears so they didn’t hear your negativity
Lol no.
@@ratofvengence lol yes you disagreeing won’t change it self defense is something everyone is entitled to
@@isaiahkachaturian1626 Self defense is a right. Guns are not a human right. You are getting the two confused, as they are not the same thing lol.
I can save you 6 minutes… in America gun buybacks do nothing
because government literally offers dirt for that sh,it. why sell it to government for 100$ when u can sell it to guy who will buy it for 500$
"Buyback" is a censored term for "confiscation."
Two things Australia’s a nation surrounded by a body of water, and they don’t have cartels that would sell to people wanting a gun
"an alternative to thoughts and prayer" hit harder than it has a right to be
Imagine if we actually addressed the socioeconomic issues that caused shootings, instead of blaming the existence of inanimate objects 🤔
@@Dumbledore6969x Would you mind explaining why gun reform has been so successful, then?
@@primalreversion7034 the two aren’t mutually exclusive. Nice try kid
@@primalreversion7034 successful where? please dont say australia lol i live here and trust me it wasnt as successful as these anti gun media reporters play it out to be
@@Dumbledore6969x you made it sound like gun reform isn't a good idea
And Australia is safer because of less guns, but in statistics it shows 5% higher rapes, double the burglaries, 12% more auto thefts. But what is really good as we let criminals go free and write more laws making law abiding citizens become felons just for protecting themselves, Australia average criminal sentence is 44% longer than in the US. Maybe the trick to stopping violent crime is throwing the criminals in jail and keeping them there.
I'll save you 6 minutes, no.
Heres the thing:
It'll only work if its mandatory, but it won't have enough support if its mandatory. So nothing will happen. Guns are far too popular and engrained into culture within the US.
I think Australia used to also be like this
@@antishulk Australia needed a wake up call in the form of a mass shooting to change its mind. Meanwhile, the US has grown desensitized to massacres in schools.
The part this whole debate misses - American gun owners sunk a lot of money into guns. The average gun owner has spent approx $5-10,000 USD
If you have half the population giving guns up.
Who pays for the loss?
I can tell you most - aside from being unwilling - certainly are not ok to get Pennies on the dollar for their expenses and investment.
@@alecubudulecu fair prices were paid for the Australian buy back, as noted in the video. If USA can find a trillion dollars down the back of the couch for their army, surely they'll find a similar amount for a gun buy back? Surely??
It wont even work if it is mandatory. Have you seen the compliance numbers on the recent pistol with stabilizing brace rule? At best 8% of owners chose to register them in compliance with the ATF, at worst, 0.6%. If american gun owners are so defiant that they wont even register a gun accessory, how well do you think a mandate to turn in their firearms will go over. Oh, by the way, you'd have to repeal the 2nd amendment first which would require a 2/3 supermajority vote. Good luck with that and trying to track down over 400 million unregistered firearms. 😂
The ATF has recently attempted to reclassify pistols with braces as short barrel rifles. Out of the millions of braced pistols, only a fraction attempted to register. That’s probably the best sort of result you could expect if the government attempted a “gun buyback.”
Right. Approx 0.5% registered
Based
And the courts slapped them for it
good
this comment needs to be higher
Easiest way to ensure people can't rise up against a tyrannical government
Lol, letting any fool have access to guns doesn't stop tyranny. It didn't prevent the tyranny of segregation, nor did it end it. Interment? That still happened...
@@ratofvengenceyes it does
@@Tylerd838 The tyranny of segregation and internment happened. Or are you in denial?
@@ratofvengence how does that affect my rights today
@@Tylerd838 I never said it did. I merely stated facts that contradict the OP.
I think unfortunately the key is people must be shocked and outraged by mass shootings. Seems that this ship has sailed, if this amount if school shootings hasnt wokenpeople up, what would it take?
Bringing a gun to a school is illegal. Killing kids is illegal. We just need ONE MORE LAW.
as long as the proposed solution is more guns make safer environments, theres no way.
it would only convinced the conservatives only if it directly affects them. rn only innocent children are the victims and they don't give a single f
Given how the US can’t go a day without some sort of shooting happening. I think it’s safe to say that Most people in the US has either become desensitized or accepted that shootings everyday is normal in a country that has more guns than people.
i always imagine it in newsreports as a seperate topic. like the weather, it is the shooting of the day
Will never happen in the United States
Me and my friends thought about building guns from scratch to sell to the government for profit
Pipe shotguns are a good one to try out 😅
Well, it wasn't quite complete guns but there were actually cases of people making and selling gun parts to the government in the time of the Australian "buy back".
Israel, the reason not to give up your arms.
I'll never forget Clint Eastwood's response to gun buybacks: "Gun buybacks are like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids."
Nah not really
@@vignotum132 yes, really
Smooth brain take
After doing research on the “buyer”, it appears that it has a long history of murder and being being unstable. Would not give guns to them.
A lot of people overlook the fact that gun control worked here in Australia partly because of Australia's unique territorial situation. Australia is technically an island continent which doesn't share borders with any other nation. Thus, when our government issued strict gun control laws, they worked because it wasn't as easy for people to illegally import guns into the country across our borders. I think this is a key factor which determined the success of our gun control laws. Because countries like the U.S. and Serbia don't share the same territorial conditions, I am not sure how successful gun control laws would be in those countries.
In the US our problems are within our own borders. You can Google “iron pipeline” -it’s a common term for the interstate used to smuggle guns into states with stricter gun control laws. There are people here who seem to see guns as part of their religion. Meanwhile children don’t feel safe going to school and mass shootings are nearly a daily occurrence but gun defenders will say it’s not the guns. It’s sickening.
@Raygunomics Actually that is false. Studies have shown that the majority of guns used in crime came from the same state. This is yet another fallacy to misinformed and blame other states for gun control not working because evil evils and criminals criminal.
Well a lot of people dont realize or care that Australia never has or had a constitutional guaranteed right to gun ownership. We do. Thus is why, whatever Australia, UK what have you do, does not matter over here because the 2A and the Constitution are specific restrictions on government power and control.
Yet guns are being smuggled from the US into Canada and Mexico, not the other way around.
The overwhelming majority of guns in private ownership in the US has been manufactured in the US and has never left the country.
ONLY 120.5 per person?! THOSE ARE ROOKIE NUMBERS, YOU GOTTA PUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP.
Are you American?
I was going to comment the same thing. 😂
@@Onako2 Of course I am. There's only one country on this planet that matters, and that's the good ol' US of A!
@@tattooedredheadx Then please give me one argument why a lot of weapons are good in your opinion.
I’ll save you all 6 minutes: Yes, but only if they are mandatory.
But sadly that isn't the case. Didn't work in N.Z.
Good luck collecting 300 millions of unregistred firearms. The ban will only affect the normal, ordinary citizens. Gang members and people who have been planning a mass shooting for months or years will still get them, just illegaly.
And in places that dont have the second ammendment. Criminals in the US wont follow a "mandatory" buyback. So quick math for the US: (law abiding citizens with guns + criminals with guns) - law anding citizens with guns = criminals with guns. Nothing changed.
What a waste to destroy all those guns. They should be keeping them in an armory for when they need them.
I'm not agreeing nor disagreeing with you but what sort of situation would you envisage them being needed exactly?
The answer is no
Did you watch the video? Or did you just reach an uninformed emotional answer based off the title alone?
@@AL3X2580it’s unconstitutional to begin with
@@Tylerd838 constitution can be amended
@@AL3X2580no need
Imagine if we actually solved this issue, instead of saying "thoughts and prayers" with no action.
What issue? Suicides and homicides? Gun control doesn't solve that. Unless the big problem is people owning guns...
@@jaxjax2011 Comprehensive gun control reduces homicides and suicides. Owning a gun makes you way more likely to act on your suicidal thoughts. I know that if I had a gun, I wouldn't be alive today but thankfully, I never had a "quick and easy" way to unalive myself.
As for killings, the US has the highest homicide rate among rich countries.
Unfortunately, I don't see this changing anytime soon, Americans love their guns too much. Who cares about kids, amirite?
kick the black outs. instantly half the violent crime goes down
@@jaxjax2011smells like freedom
@@jaxjax2011 did you watch the video? 4:23
US will give up democracy before giving up Guns😂
Well, we're half way there then!
It may be impossible in US.... for now but doesn't mean not possible. Hope is quite foolish but powerful motivator.
The Australian buy back has had little effect on homicide rates in Australia - in other words a total failure
The total homicide rate fell by half. You are wrong.
Vox please make longer videos
Watch them at x0.5 speed and you instantly have twice as long videos.
4:25 they had a greater reduction in FIREARM suicides. Total suicides only barely decreased over this period.
Oh, no, gun control advocates looking only at single metrics that paint an inaccurate picture to push the idea that gun control works? Say it isn't so.
“Buy Back” is a CONFISCATION.
If the citizens don't have guns the police shouldn't have them either. The government is just as irresponsible with them (if not more so) as the average citizen.
I remember growing up in the Pacific Northwest and hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting when I was in Middle School. It disturbed me greatly, but there was also a cushion of distance and a feeling of safety I felt, knowing that "the odds are that that doesn't happen to me." It comforted me as a kid in school to feel like this was a uniquely grotesque tragedy that may happen once every five years or so, in a place still geographically distant from myself. Nowadays, as a college student with two younger siblings and a daughter, none of that selfish cushion I could alott myself as an anxious child remains. I fear for each younger cousin I have when they grow old enough to enter public school. We have lockdowns at my campus sometimes when the nearby high school is theatened, which happens so often I cannot wrap my mind around it. There is no escaping this issue, is my point. Yet nowhere in the progression of devastating events that led us through the years between my naive childhood and our current reality did we draw a line in the sand. We have recieved nothing but lip service, will continue to recieve little beyond that, and the frustration I and so many other younger people feel at that complacency in the face of mass death is hard to describe. Some part of me hopes we can finally hit that point where the pressure mounts and there is no longer any way for our representatives to run from the havoc their inaction perpetuates. The other half of me is just petrified to imagine what horror could possibly jolt the nation out of its lull of inefficiency. Regardless, I appreciate the effort Serbia is making now. I commend them for attempting to do something to help, and even if its effectiveness may be dampened by a lack of compensation or enforcement, it could still show another model we may structure future movements around here in the states.
This deserves more likes, well said
Better laws would help. But they don't solve the actual problem.
FYI, your fear and distrust is PART of the problem.
We need to get rid of the stigma against mental healthcare.
We need to get rid of Gun Culture.
And we need to fix a system that keeps MOST people frustrated and powerless, because most people ARE.
This isn't JUST a problem of irresponsible gun owners allowing a hormone-drunk (pre)teen to get their hands on a firearm.
A healthy person with opportunity and agency doesn't shoot up a mall.
Declawing an abused cat so it can't attack people doesn't really solve the "problem".
It is still being abused.
It still has teeth.
One word:
Republicans
@@jubal6654 Welcome to "You are part of the problem". Coffee and juice are on the table over there.
Villainizing a group, no matter how wrong some members of that group are, isn't a good "solution" to a problem.
@M thanks, I appreciate it.
Basically no
In Australia they paid much more for the gun than it was worth so everyone handed them in.
Number of gun owners vs number of guns per resident are two totally different things. There’s a subculture of gun enthusiast that will heavily skew this data.
If anything they're skewing the data in the wrong direction for what I suspect is your point. Comparable countries with actually sane gun regulation will generally have more of their firearms in the hands of gun nuts and collectors as average people won't be nearly as interested in going through the hassle just to own a single weapon that they have to keep locked in a safe pretty much the entire time they have it.
The most important part is recognizing the political culture. I'm pretty sure in none of these countries the right to defend yourself with deadly force is in their constitution and the ability to make yourself a ghost gun didn't exists. The US right now shares a lot of similarities with Yugoslavia (High debt load, high amounts of corruption and polarization, and a loss of faith in the system). It's probably more important to fix the underlying caused than to come up with a temporary solution to one symptom if you want to avoid sharing the same fate.
True true
It ain't the guns. When I was a little kid anyone could walk into any hardware store and buy a gun. No questions asked, just put the money on the counter and leave with the gun. Gun crime wasn't a big deal. Today our cities with the strictest gun laws lead the country in gun crime. In 2022 the following cities had these murders, Chicago 695, Los Angeles 382, Baltimore 333, Detroit 309, DC 203, St. Louis 196, Seattle 52 and Newark 50. Almost none of these murders were committed with so called assault weapons.
When you limited information on firearms and make the simplest piece of plastic or metal part illegal.
What does that do?... It increases "crime" and "felons". It also increase Accidents.
The problem is people with guns who shouldn't have guns. Also with those statistics, you should be taking into account the population. Of course, the largest populations are going to have the most gun murders. Also, the talk about bans on assault weapons is because that is what is mostly used in mass shootings, not because they are used in homicides or suicides. The only valid reason to not want common sense gun laws is that it gets votes.
@@jl789nz You don't consider the murders I mentioned to be mass murder? 695 in Chicago sounds like mass murder to me and what "common sense gun control" will you propose that will change that number? I don't know what an assault weapon is and I'm pretty knowledgeable about guns. I'll guess by assault weapon you mean a rifle of some kind and virtually none of the murders being committed in some our cities use a rifle.
@@amosjsoma There so much more to it than just gun laws though, and it's a funny coincidence that the party who advocates for less gun laws are also the party that would vote down social programs to help a community with things like mental health.
If Australia's 'buy back' was so popular, why are the majority of people complaining now?
Especially since the government has had sweeping draconian laws passed against the citizens?
"why are the majority of people complaining now?"
They aren't.
"the government has had sweeping draconian laws passed against the citizens?"
Lol, such as?
It's the new generation complaining.
An unarmed law abiding civilian is called a target. You fail to mention how many people were saved by the proper use of a firearm.
can't even pass universal background check and we are talking about gun buyback?
background check? I can buy all the guns I want scratched clean at the border from Juan in the cartel. Cheap, too.
That's because the gun lobby have the politicians in their pockets. One of two things should happen, either ban lobbyists or elect people that won't take money from the lobbyists. Both would be ideal.
@@utha2665 if people know better, we would be in a much better place unfortunately that is not the case.
@@utha2665banning lobbyists means banning gun reform lobbyists as well. Im all for that.
Can't get ideas out there without talking about them. Having the discussion alone is worthwhile, even when there's no expectation of it happening in the US anytime soon.
Not to mention Vox is watched worldwide (though this was obviously targeted to Americans - albeit mostly preaching to the choir as Vox is generally targeting a left-leaning audience).
The thing here in Australia is semi-automatic firearms aren’t banned, only heavily restricted to certain people, such as farmers and contractors hired to dispatch animals, from rabbits to kangaroos which may be destroying property.
I'm here in West Aus, i have 2 semi auto handguns, a .357 revolver, mum and dad have semi auto pistols. I'm happy with the restrictions we have, but there are heaps of us with semi autos.
Do these guns take down the emus? Or are they still immune to basically any firearm known to man...
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904yeah they are invincible.
You people keep comparing other countries to the usa about GUNS. Here is the difference for you in one word: Constitution. It is not written & protected fervently in any other countries constitution. It is our "god given right... to bear arms" written by our founding fathers and protected by our entire government system. I.E. checks and balance. Even if some tyrant or hippie tried to remove the 2nd amendment, it is not going to pass as law because of how our law procedure works. Not to mention our supreme court whose literal job is to uphold the constitutional law. And our military branches who are all sworn to the constitution (not to the President!) to defend it. GOOD LUCK.
"Here is the difference for you in one word: Constitution."
Are you even aware every nation has one of these?
"It is our "god given right... to bear arms""
God has nothing to say about letting any fool have access to firearms.
How is it a buy-BACK? The agencies buying the guns never sold them in the first place.
austrail gun ban was from one person and the population was against the gun ban, the gun ban made violent crime,rapes,home invasions and shootings go way up, and yes they still had mass shootings. there are more guns now in australia then before the gun ban..
Impressive. Everything you just said was a lie, except there being more guns. Yet with the strict laws, we have half the homicide rate we had.
@@ratofvengenceactually you're wrong, do you have a source for your claim?
@@Mcfunface I'm not wrong at all. Australian Institute of Criminology homicide data. In 2001-02 the homicide victim rate was 1.92/100,000. In 2020-21 it was 0.86, well less than half.
So by what measure do you claim I am wrong?
As an Australian, I feel I would have a better understanding of my country than a country where 17.3 million people (63% of Australia's population as a reference) think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. And after some research, the rate is 1.02.
Mass gun buyback sounds like a good business for firearm producer.
I remember the gun buy backs in California. The cities offered $100 per gun. So people went out and bought $39 Mosin Nagants and sold them to the cities. Its also a good way to hide or destroy arms linked to crimes.
yep!
I always love how people point and look to Australia, while conveniently ignoring the fact that they are an island country. While guns can still be smuggled in via sea, it is many times more difficult than going across a land border.
If there is a national disarming of U.S citizens, the only people with guns will be the government and cops. And when there is someone in power who may threaten the fabric of the nation, who will be there to uphold the rights of its citizens ? Most of the governments thriving today are the result of a revolution overthrowing the last which were overstepping boundaries. Gun laws are great when a population doesn't need guns at the moment, but when you do need them, what can you do against those using them against you?
It’s a futile argument at this point. I agree with you, but easily half the world’s population is subhuman cattle. They will do as their told by their superiors, and if that order is to disarm, they will disarm.
The public have the right to defend themselves from the tyranny of an unjust government as well as to defend land and property from unwanted trespass and seizure .
I'm serbian and I'd rather we got rid of guns from society, we've seen enough violence and bloodshed, there's no reason for serb citizens to own guns
And yet it doesn't work out that way.
And yet it doesn't work does it?
Never comply with gun control
Owning guns is a human right. Come and take it.
Being free from gun violence is also a human right.
No it's not
@@douglasconnolly6357how about free from other violence?
In Australia they just changed the wording of legally purchased weapon to being illegal and forced its citizens to give up there guns or face jail time.
Where guns?
@@vvillem9 🤣
...yes... that's what changing a law usually does.
Cant be a buy back if i never bought from the government
Gun buyback
Citizen buys gun for $800
Government buys back for $40
Liberals claim it’s a “fair purchase”
Throughout the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s semi auto firearms were legally imported into Australia in the millions and millions - many of them ex military in origin. In some instances there were millions of individual models and hundreds of thousands of others.
Just 640,000 of all types were taken by the government in 1996. Presumably the rest are still out there somewhere but WHERE is any bodies guess.
Australia's rate of firearms related crime has continued to fall at the same rate as it was before '96.
Many of our gun laws have been written by people that clearly have no idea what they're doing and would leave you wondering what sort of half wits are running the show were I to list some of them!
Compulsory registration is a farcical clown show! You could be forgiven for thinking that 30 years and billions of dollars would be long enough and enough money to work out how to run such a system but the reality is that there STILL isn't a state that can maintain a simple list of property against a list of names with any degree of acceptable accuracy or efficiency. In fact, the Western Australian Auditor General stated that the WA system was so grossly inaccurate that it couldn't be fixed! The other states aren't much better.
The "buyback" did nothing but destroy trust in government waste a staggering amount of money that continues to be wasted.
Now these are the VOX videos I’ve been missing
Right? I feel like recent Vox videos have been lacking
@@AlejandroFlores-vi8tl completely agree
Yet it is factually wrong at a few places... Which just made me sigh.
You miss being indoctrinated?
Shall not be infringed.
3D printer time boys.
Well regulated.
@@ratofvengence can't stop won't stop, red coat, you must really enjoy that boot taste.
@@ratofvengenceoh shove it ratard go play with your toy soldiers
For The Aussies, mandatory or face oppressive, stiff penalties was the biggest reason. The others you give are lame attempts to justify then lunacy.
Quick point on the couple of mass shootings in Australia in the last decade: those are closely linked to DV and also to the loosening of gun laws that has been occurring due to gun lobbyists infiltration of political parties. Gun deaths in Australia are way down, but we're still seeing issues.
What does DM stand for?
@@arcssssss sorry, should have been DV as in domestic violence.
Oh thanks
How are "mass" shootings closely related to domestic violence? In the US, and I'd assume in most of the Western World, gun violence associate with domestic violence occurs in the actual domicile. Or, if outside the home it's a targeted attack on the spouse, not walking into a public building and unloading into Randoms.
@@bufordhighwater9872 one of the three mass shootings in the graph was from someone shooting his entire family. That is DV and because of the number killed a mass shooting.
And mass shootings don't have to be against random people or outside of the home. They just have be enough dead people.
And as with most gun stats worldwide, there is a lot of deliberate/unintentional misclassification of deaths/injuries. What counts as DV in one police report might be recorded as regular assault/murder in another.
im sure the criminal lined up around the corner to give up theirs 😂😂😂
How can you buy back something you never owned.
Not here they don't. First of all, I abhor the term "buyback". You can't buy something back that you didn't own in the first place. The phrase subtly suggests guns belong to the government and that they merely "allow" you to have them.
Two, the police around here conducted one of these discount firearm sales for themselves. They collected just shy of 2 dozen guns, in a town of about 5 or 6 thousand. I believe 9 of them were broken and missing parts, 12 were old, cheap, beat up hunting rifles, and the last 2 were most likely hot guns that looked like someone attempted to file off the serial numbers. Needless to say, they were very disappointed and its never been tried again.
America's guns are not for sale
as someone who appreciates the technology and history of guns it saddens me to see so many guns destroyed without a second thought. I sincerely hope that my neighbors (Serbia) will do the right thing and put the most valuable and historically important rifles in appropriate collections and museums, or at least allow legal, mentally healthy and verified individuals to buy them and keep them in their collections. It is true that guns on the streets are a great evil and danger, but a rifle can also be a piece of art and craftsmanship.
The guns destroyed were those that wouldn't be legal to own without a licence that would be difficult to get. The majority were a bunch of boring mass produced pump actions
Most museums that display firearms have a much greater number in storage that will never be shown. The vast majority of the guns being destroyed are not rare.
Yes, as a Romanian with *Serbian* friends I can attest to the obsession Serbians reserve towards weapons. Truth being said most Romanian people I know buy their guns from Serbia, from private owners, including my uncle, an ex-sergeant in the Romanian army.
This worked well for Ukraine, Germany, China, Hong Kong, (soon to be) Taiwan, Israel, and Russia. Nothing bad ever happened in these countries.
Keep scrolling
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You also forgot, Australia, New Zealand, UK, and your friend Canada. Which all worked and they don't have to worry about getting shot or stabbed.
I live in Britain I have been robbed twice and stabbed 47 times I'm not in any gang. I wish it was legal to carry a handgun if you have a license imagine if citizens could defend themselves how quickly knife-crime would go down muggings home invasions . do you know they advertise in London for people to not wear a watch otherwise you will get robbed at knife point most likely
You ain't been stabbed 47 times 😭 if you're going to lie make it realistic
Sure kiddo, sure. Meanwhile, the US has over QUINTUPLE the UK homicide rate. So tell me again about how much safer they are with all those guns?
If the uk had legal cc their would be non-stop shootings 😂
@@DarrellWilkerson4.6 Just like in the US. It's weird how they think that makes them safer lol.
anything but bringing up when it goes wrong: Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc.
It isn't some guaranteed peace either way
To answer your question vox no gun buy backs will not work because we don't want to sell
Aperently they work.
@@sH-ed5yf Not here they won't and you can't force people to sell either
@@dennisbryan7522 You won't know until you tried it.
@@rem5272 No I do know because I'm a gun owner plus they can't force people to sell
@@rem5272they tried here in Louisiana. They received like 200 guns total 🤣 so that’s supposed to work with 400 million?
the last school shooting in the UK was 1996. we had a gun amnesty too. we are safer and freer than the US because of it. and don’t try to compare a semi automatic military killing machine with a kitchen knife; it ‘ant the same.
"semi automatic military killing machine ' you have absolutely no knowledge of guns, do you?
Obviously we can’t compare the UK with the US because they don’t have the right the bear arms. He right, it aint the same.
I’ll make sure to bring a knife proof vest with me to London
@@FrankLipp-sc8hz The US has a HIGHER knife homicide rate than the UK. Didn't you know?
Freer? You mean the country that arrests people for making jokes on the internet?
I like how the ending is hopeful and uplifting for Serbia, but doesnt even mention US 😭
the US are neck deep in, they need to do actual progress before the international community can be uplifting
There is not much illusion outside of the US about the fact that half that country is ok with children being mowed down by mini-guns.
I think it's pretty well established.
As a Serb, i'd tell You that it's actually uplifting because Serbia is trying to make a change now and is by the size of Maryland. US will never be able to revert their law and reduce gun possession because of the sheer size and mentality of the people. In Serbia, there's only 5mil of us, we at least have a chance to disapear from the map of gun possession in a fast way...or so we hope.
@@dduleyt Why should we want to get rid of our guns when we don't have a gun problem? Serbia has the same murder rate as the UK. Guns aren't the issue.
@@dduleytbecause we don’t genocide our people because of what they looked like?
I like how they immediately jump to the idea that more guns = more death which isn't the case and makes this whole argument pointless. most countries with the highest murder rate aren't even in the top 50 of gun ownership.
In any given society, more guns = more deaths. If America had 10 guns, the homicide rate would be very low. But you have more than 400 millions guns.
This piece ignores the cost. Who pays for a gun buyback? Approx half of Americans own guns. Most have approx $5k to $10k invested in firearms.
That’s $1.3 Trillion USD.
You think those folks will just happily take the financial hit?
It also assumes every state and police force will just comply. I don't see rural red county sheriff's complying with a mandatory gun buyback especially if their states don't either
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv of course. I mean If usa could magically get to the point where it’d be considered. Which it won’t. Then there’s the actual bill.
I personally know dozens of folks in firearms community with 50-150k worth of guns. They won’t be like “here. You can have them for $10”
And you betcha they would lawyer up and fight tooth and nail against this. Multiply that by millions of people like that.
The safest countries are the most armed countries .Switzerland its the law !
The question: Where are these individuals get their guns from?
From the Yugoslavia War
In more ways than you think of.
The second shooter actually got his automatic rifle (which are illegal for civilian ownership in Serbia) from his dad, who was a corrupt army officer.
We passed a law in oregon that police have to test and train people before they can buy a firearm, but didnt fund the infrastrucure to support it.
"It's easy to control people. It's hard to educate them."
I feel Australian law enforcement in several of the states went overboard since airsoft guns and gel blasters are considered firearms based on the belief that somehow, they could be converted into real guns. This is despite that these replica weapons are made from plastic and aluminum and would explode if real ammunition was somehow jammed into them.
I honestly can't believe they picked Australia as an example of working gun-laws.
That said, you could absolutely convert those toys into working weapons.
You could also, with the same effort, build a firearm from hardware store parts.
So it isn't really a 'good' argument.
Airsoft will probably be allowed but the guns will have restrictions and only certain types, and registration/background check will apply.
It's not only the sheer amount of guns that causes this uniquely American problem. It's also the nation's gun culture: the belief that it's normal or even desirable for regular citizens to have guns around, to be preoccupied with them and thinking about every imaginable scenario where it might be considered ok to use them. In my corner of the world, if we knew people like that, huge red flags would be raised by people around them, instead of saying "well it is their right and the pinnacle of our exceptionalism". Everybody, say, in Europe, realizes this but it in the US it never registers that it shouldn't be considered normal to have guns in the first place.
We're taught (somewhat subconsciously) that the "good guy with a gun" mentality is not only correct, but also true. I think the majority of gun-owning US citizens are convinced that there will be a point where they- and only they- can stop some massive situation from transpiring.
Exactly. As a European, it was pretty strange and scary to see a random dude shopping with a gun on his belt or to see guns being sold in Walmart while no one bats an eye. I think the US will never have a comprehensive gun laws.
@@_blank-_ "I think the US will never have comprehensive gun laws."
Look, I don't usually comment on everything gun-related because it's a complicated subject, but I do think the US WILL have comprehensive gun laws. It's just that the spider web needs to be untangled so that it's easier for you to walk smoothly, but I don't know the solution to this. It's not as straightforward as asking someone for a beer.
@@revolution1237 26 states have enacted constitutional carry and it's only a matter of time till the Supreme Court shoots down all the rest. You're on the losing side of this battle.
@@BriManeely this is EXACTLY the issue. (Its the same problem with police violence) These people (mostly white men) have this fantasy in their head of getting to play Rambo and be a savior
NO
it was trash for cash
People sold their crappie guns for cash went out and brought brand new ones
Only 1/3 off guns were sold and now we have more then prior to the buyback