Do "gun buybacks" work?

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  • @therealjuralumin3416
    @therealjuralumin3416 ปีที่แล้ว +4135

    The craziest part of our buyback here in Australia was it was the conservative party that made the decision, would be like the Republican party in the US passing gun control.

    • @Argonnosi
      @Argonnosi ปีที่แล้ว

      The Republican party has often pushed for gun control. All governments push for gun control. An armed populace is not in the best interest of the government.

    • @esshor.
      @esshor. ปีที่แล้ว +409

      It makes you proud to be an Aussie doesn’t it

    • @obrandondonaldson1208
      @obrandondonaldson1208 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Australia being world leading as usual
      Should even go further to stop criminals. Allow a month where people can turn in their illegal/unregistered guns, and when its passed, anyone that is found with an illegal gun receives capital punishment, like in Singapore

    • @matthewboyer4212
      @matthewboyer4212 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      @@obrandondonaldson1208 that opens up a whole other can of worms regarding the ethics of capital punishment

    • @adriandominguez3596
      @adriandominguez3596 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@esshor.bot ahh

  • @Xeonerable
    @Xeonerable ปีที่แล้ว +3000

    The most shocking part about the Serbian weapon surrender is the amount of grenades they received.

    • @MostlyPonies1
      @MostlyPonies1 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      I wonder how they handle them. Does someone drop off a box of grenades at a local amnesty center that's been rented out of a business plaza?

    • @deleted-something
      @deleted-something ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ye

    • @ruffryder13
      @ruffryder13 ปีที่แล้ว +376

      Why is Serbia ahead of the US in grenade ownership? The citizens of the US must unite to correct this shortcoming.

    • @tthien93
      @tthien93 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      True. I'm blown away by that fact

    • @notreally2227
      @notreally2227 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      civil war just ended merely 20 years, some serbs millitias are still very powerful

  • @kaiakoa
    @kaiakoa ปีที่แล้ว +930

    An intresting fact that came to light a few years back is that Australia has more guns now (3.6 million) than it did when port Arthur happpened (3.2 million) and from 2.1 guns per gun owner in 1997 to 3.9 guns per owner. With fewer people owning guns but more guns per licence holder.

    • @samrichards8251
      @samrichards8251 ปีที่แล้ว +307

      I guess that points to the registering and license requirements meaning that generally responsible people will be owning guns compared to every other random nutcase.

    • @BlueClouds-tp2ds
      @BlueClouds-tp2ds ปีที่แล้ว +89

      ​@@samrichards8251That's pretty optimistic, to put it lightly. In reality it's probably extremists and super dedicated gun lovers/collectors buying them.

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      @@BlueClouds-tp2ds Would still have a beneficial effect. Given there isn't much utility or additional risk in using multiple guns at once, the stat that matters in most cases is the total number of people with access to a gun. More concentrated gun ownership still means fewer people with gun access,

    • @Supermaco
      @Supermaco ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @Dani I’m guessing the majority of the people who had guns before the national firearms act didn’t register their guns (because there was no need) and that the number of guns owned would be greater than the estimated 3.2 million

    • @torgo_
      @torgo_ ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@BlueClouds-tp2ds I don't think so, I've lived in rural Australia for decades, and I've known a lot of gun owners. They are almost exclusively farmers and such; people that have such weapons for their work (pest control, etc). I've known a lot of random nutcases who have tried to acquire a gun (myself included) but have been unable to jump through all the legal hoops. And I most certainly shouldn't be in possession of one lol

  • @ayechankosamuel1390
    @ayechankosamuel1390 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    We, Myanmar citizens are experiencing gun violence too but, in our case, our own military is the one doing it. Will there be any gun restriction program for this?

    • @brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985
      @brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The myanmar people have been building guns as well. They make fgc9s

    • @soulknight89
      @soulknight89 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And that's why, we the US of A won't give up our rights.

    • @Toufan1-gr4br
      @Toufan1-gr4br 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i wished the u.s funded your people against the government lol

  • @Collin-p9m
    @Collin-p9m ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I made $3500 selling 3d printed Glock frames with no metal parts to the Utica NY police department at a gun buyback 😂

    • @generalgrant2003
      @generalgrant2003 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Congrats!

    • @emperordonaldtrump1st614
      @emperordonaldtrump1st614 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      W

    • @herisuryadi6885
      @herisuryadi6885 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice

    • @jeffreyburney6161
      @jeffreyburney6161 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s awesome. That means they have less money to do innocent people into giving up their firearms when everybody knows that the criminals will never give up their firearms

    • @Collin-p9m
      @Collin-p9m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffreyburney6161 It's NY, so they have unlimited money to spend on pointless gun control ventures.

  • @lumare
    @lumare ปีที่แล้ว +1123

    Australia's gun buyback amnesty was only part of it - from there on, we also had very strict gun registration and gun licensing laws. It took a friend of mine that wanted a rifle for hunting rabbits on his farm almost a year to get approved to get a license, then a 6 month wait to be able to buy his rifle.

    • @torgo_
      @torgo_ ปีที่แล้ว +100

      It's seriously difficult to get a gun license. At the most basic level you need to be a rural property owner, or to be gainfully employed in an occupation where the gun is required (pest control, farming or such). Even just these two requirements already rule out the vast majority of irresponsible nutcases.

    • @cwg9238
      @cwg9238 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      come and take them. ironically youll need guns to do it. america has a very different temperament and tradition than austrialia. if what was done there were attempted here, well, lets just say there is a comically numerical disadvantage to the people that would be tasked to seize them. and they would not survive that attempt.

    • @FelipeKana1
      @FelipeKana1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's reasonable wait

    • @FelipeKana1
      @FelipeKana1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@torgo_you mean in Australia, right?

    • @FelipeKana1
      @FelipeKana1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@cwg9238oh lord shut up
      The adults are talking

  • @user-op8fg3ny3j
    @user-op8fg3ny3j ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Brandon Harera has entered the chat:

  • @themelbornememer9575
    @themelbornememer9575 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    I think one important thing to consider about Australian gun laws is this: Australians are allowed to buy guns, you just need to acquire/continually renew a license, and there is a restriction on the types of firearms allowed, and on the reason for owning a gun. Gun laws are mostly not about taking away guns, but rather about making guns are only placed in safe hands, and making sure incredibly powerful firearms aren't on the market.

    • @KB-ke3fi
      @KB-ke3fi ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I love guns. All kinds. I have over 600 of them. Everytime I go to the range store, I see another one I like so I'll buy that one too.

    • @TheRedMammoth
      @TheRedMammoth ปีที่แล้ว +107

      One of the most important parts of our gun laws, is that Self Defence is not a valid reason for owning a firearm, nor should it be

    • @penguinguy9820
      @penguinguy9820 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I wish videos discussing Australia's gun laws talked about this. Most videos just make it sound like guns were banned and all guns were removed.

    • @MrScissor90
      @MrScissor90 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      ​@@TheRedMammothimagine actually believing you do not have a right to defend yourself or your family from harm. 😂

    • @elizabethhenning778
      @elizabethhenning778 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      @@MrScissor90 Imagine believing that you need semiautomatic weapons to do that. Unless of course you're a lousy shot.

  • @mradford10
    @mradford10 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    It wasn’t an easy sell. State Politicians supported it, full well knowing it would cost them winning their next election. For example the conservative Queensland Premier of 1996 had a lot of heated resistance from rural and remote communities. He supported the scheme knowing that he could - and would - lose the 1998 State election. And he did. Australia is a big country and support wasn’t the same everywhere. The outcome was though and that’s all that really mattered. It need a very tough government the most.

    • @jriceblue
      @jriceblue ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Political self-sacrifice in the name of principles is a lesson Americans really need to learn. Not a single US politician would ever tank their career in the name of doing what's right (without first getting caught doing something wrong, at least). Not. A single. One.

    • @fourleaf7570
      @fourleaf7570 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@jriceblue Confiscating guns is not right, no

    • @aeon_zero
      @aeon_zero ปีที่แล้ว +5

      conservatives willing to do the right thing no matter the cost, wish we still had some of those. Now all we get is clowns and the circuses that follow them

    • @steameam6880
      @steameam6880 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      So you’re saying a politician going against the will of the people he represents is a… good thing?

    • @steameam6880
      @steameam6880 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Championing democracy *but only when it does something I want it to do.

  • @Aedar
    @Aedar ปีที่แล้ว +230

    We have these in my country every couple of years as well, but they're not aimed at reducing the total number of guns, just the number of illegally held guns.
    Through this program, you can turn in your illegally held gun, get a gun licence, and even get the gun back, assuming it's not in a banned category, wasn't used in a crime or was modified in a way to not be dangerous anymore (for historical pieces...). During the last "amnesty", one guy actually turned in an SD-100 tank destroyer and a T34/85 tank, which I believe he was allowed to get back as historical pieces once they were "disarmed".

    • @keonyang3332
      @keonyang3332 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Do you legitimately think that a criminal would turn in their gun.

    • @colombianguy8194
      @colombianguy8194 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love the Czech republic, and I am considering moving there, greetings from Colombia.

    • @pamelaj.betz-baron2420
      @pamelaj.betz-baron2420 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@keonyang3332 It's not about what this person *thinks*; it's about the facts of what weapons were turned in. Plenty were guns held illegally.

    • @Cibershadow2
      @Cibershadow2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@keonyang3332most people who become criminals were normal people at one point. If a normal person with a gun becomes desperate and resorts to crime they will do a lot more damage than a desperate person without a gun.
      Just by restricting its access to normal people automatically kids lose access to them (good), random muggings from isolated individuals go way down (good), and gun suicides go way down (very good).

    • @Aedar
      @Aedar ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@keonyang3332 that's not really the point of our program, in fact, like I said, they check if the gun was used to commit a crime, the point is that illegaly held guns are (obviously) harder to track, or the owner, who can just be a collector, can sell it to someone who wants to commit a crime etc., so it's not really about disarming the criminals, more about making it harder for them to get a gun... And since my country actually has a really low rate of violent crimes comitted with a gun, even though we have a fairly high gun ownership rate, I'd say we're doing at least something right...

  • @rosscorr
    @rosscorr ปีที่แล้ว +458

    It worked in Australia after the Port Arthur massacre because we have not got a gun culture and arming oneself is not a given or implied right in our constitution so it was a pretty easy sell. Indeed I imagine in our population the percentage of people who have never even handled a gun is very high. Farmers, naturally, have and use them but in the cities they are simply not or have never been required because we are a safe and peaceful democracy.

    • @Argonnosi
      @Argonnosi ปีที่แล้ว +26

      How do you not have a gun culture when Australia's fauna is so lethal?

    • @matiasavellanal5244
      @matiasavellanal5244 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      @@Argonnosi because we feed them tourists

    • @ajegs2082
      @ajegs2082 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Argonnosi 90% of lethal fauna in Australia can be killed with a shoe.

    • @skyemiddletonx9006
      @skyemiddletonx9006 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Nah we have a gun culture, just not like the one in the US. We just don't have the level of entitlement

    • @lukeedwards7677
      @lukeedwards7677 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      ​@@skyemiddletonx9006yeah, our gun culture is like that of mainland Europe: gun ownership is an ongoing duty of responsibility, whether for defence from wild animals in the outback or the sportsmanship of target shooting; it's not for an automatic civilian right to use lethal force, even in self-defence, against other humans

  • @Takedownairsoft1
    @Takedownairsoft1 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Doesn’t matter is if automatic, semi, or whatever, the gun ain’t the problem it’s the people

    • @chazer0075
      @chazer0075 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Okay? So why give the people the tools for violence?

    • @Mcfunface
      @Mcfunface ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@chazer0075To stop the others who already have the tools.

    • @richlopez5896
      @richlopez5896 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NOBODY gives them the tools for violence. Any attempt to remove any guns in the USA needs to be 100% focused strictly on those who are illegally using them@@chazer0075

    • @Hard0milk03
      @Hard0milk03 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@chazer0075 so we should restrict every human from sledge hammers, cars, knifes, bc they are "tOoLs oF viOlEnce"

    • @Dmhrk215
      @Dmhrk215 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you’re saying Americans are just naturally the most violent people on the planet?

  • @pitdogex
    @pitdogex ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Just got a little disappointed by not mentioning Brasil's initiative between 2003 and 2008, where more than 570.000 guns were bought back by government. In the comming years of 2019 to 2022 of Bolsonaro, more than 600000 guns got sold to regular citizens with far more unrestricted criteria.

    • @Masturafa
      @Masturafa ปีที่แล้ว +19

      There is nothing good to say about Brazil, in the 10 years following disarmament, homicides by firearms rose by almost 30% in the country

    • @HelgaCavoli
      @HelgaCavoli ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes!! Very very upsetting/disturbing.

    • @ezezombiekiller
      @ezezombiekiller ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Masturafa Exactly! We have more homicides by firearm now than in the 90's when there were no gun laws!

    • @nlsdrf1290
      @nlsdrf1290 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Masturafa yeah, because of bolsonaro

    • @vascobranco5296
      @vascobranco5296 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​​@@nlsdrf1290 🤦‍♂️"10 years following" that means is between 2009-2018, where Bolsonaro wasn't even elected yet. In fact, during is presidency, gun violence actually decrease, because everyone could have a gun no one risk using it against others.

  • @masteertwentyone
    @masteertwentyone ปีที่แล้ว +400

    As a Canadian, many people are surprised to see we have the 5th most guns per person in the world, and second if you only count first world countries. Turns out, we have a lot of hunters!

    • @Dumbledore6969x
      @Dumbledore6969x ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Impossible. I was told that having lots of guns means that everyone will shoot each other. Are you trying to say that there’s actual socioeconomic reasons for shootings, and not just the existence of an inanimate objects ?

    • @micahbush5397
      @micahbush5397 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Which makes sense, given that Canada has more land than the U.S. and about a tenth of the population. Meanwhile, the U.S. has more guns than people, and the sizable majority of those guns are owned by ~10% of the adult population.

    • @michaelsmith953
      @michaelsmith953 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@Dumbledore6969x its also the fact that canada makes it hard to get pistols, which are actually more used in gang violence than restricting "ar15's" because big and scary

    • @TulilaSalome
      @TulilaSalome ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Dumbledore6969x there's still a ship ton m9re guns, as well as gun deaths in the USA. Canada only has a lot of gums compared to other countries USA is in a class of its own.

    • @chinesesparrows
      @chinesesparrows ปีที่แล้ว +9

      types of firearms matter as well. CCP also sold "hunting rifles" to Russia recently which are likely assault rifles

  • @AT-ih2bt
    @AT-ih2bt ปีที่แล้ว +45

    How a government is able to buy "back" something they never owned?

    • @YourLittleDeath
      @YourLittleDeath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And the gun owners couldn't exactly choose not to sell "back" to the government either. Just a twist on words really.

    • @TheSundayShooter
      @TheSundayShooter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YourLittleDeath Yep, newspeak for confiscation

  • @BrosephtheAsian
    @BrosephtheAsian ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I think the big problem if this was implemented in the United States is that the agency in charge of doing this would be the ATF and majority of citizens hate them. It’s also so imbedded in US culture to own guns

    • @marcbuisson2463
      @marcbuisson2463 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's not fair to say it is embedded. But rather it was embedded through a few decades of lobbying. 50 years ago, the situation was vastly different. It's a fairly recent development.

    • @CaptainAwsome
      @CaptainAwsome ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@marcbuisson2463 its been embedded since the first colonists landed on the shores of the Americas

    • @DickenMifrensmamIII
      @DickenMifrensmamIII ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@marcbuisson2463no if you knew about guns, it’s the exact opposite. 46% of families own guns now, and 50 years ago in 1970 70% of families own guns

    • @marcbuisson2463
      @marcbuisson2463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DickenMifrensmamIII welp, Statista seems to disagree, you were at 43% households ownership according to them. And yeah, it was levels fairly common with many european countries. That said, the nature of the market was probably fairly different at the time. More hunters, less military fanboys and anti-government militants. And the NRA was remarquably different. The situation was far closer to France for example at the time. The US just took... a different path let's say.

    • @DickenMifrensmamIII
      @DickenMifrensmamIII ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@marcbuisson2463 well considering the statistics that I can send you say that there’s less gun owners now than 50 years ago, I would say you’re wrong. Again 70% of families in the 70s owned guns while in 2023 it’s 43%.

  • @LuciusFox-c7z
    @LuciusFox-c7z ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I like how they completely left out New Zealand where the gun buyback completely failed.

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How, exactly, did it fail?

    • @HiNickCares
      @HiNickCares 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It failed in Australia also.

    • @brentsyoutube
      @brentsyoutube 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and how Suicides are higher now than before guns were removed.

    • @stuff1013
      @stuff1013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@HiNickCareshow?

    • @HiNickCares
      @HiNickCares 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stuff1013 After the buyback gun crime and crime in general fell at the same rate it was falling at before the buy back.

  • @Jeffhowardmeade
    @Jeffhowardmeade ปีที่แล้ว +209

    I've worked a number of these buybacks. Nearly all of the weapons were handed in by next of kin who didn't want guns they had inherited. The second most common were people getting a few bucks out of an old piece of junk that would have been more dangerous as a club than as a firearm. I once had a mother turn in a working firearm that she said belonged to her son, and she feared he might use it on himself. That was the only gun that really needed to be taken off the street, out of hundreds surrendered.

    • @BluesJayPrince
      @BluesJayPrince ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I’m guessing that mother considered it worth doing

    • @manupancras1198
      @manupancras1198 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      worth it

    • @GreekAssassi
      @GreekAssassi ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I hope that son dealt with his so called "mother" appropriately

    • @RichTapestry
      @RichTapestry ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GreekAssassi I have a feeling that you are mentally unstable enough to not be allowed a gun.

    • @allistertodd9409
      @allistertodd9409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@GreekAssassi can't think of a more ignorant response. And I am a responsible gun owner.

  • @tim..indeed
    @tim..indeed ปีที่แล้ว +14

    26k guns in Serbia doesn't seem that impressive when there's 3M guns around. Less than 1%.

  • @ScentlessSun
    @ScentlessSun ปีที่แล้ว +29

    If you take guns away from a populace, you have to also take them away from the government so the power dynamic is balanced. A government should not be able to dominate its people. Also, it is a matter of time before any society spawns an authoritarian. When that happens you need an armed populace to remove such a person. It’s nice to think we live in a civilized world where this can’t happen, but our species is not that evolved.

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Also, it is a matter of time before any society spawns an authoritarian. When that happens you need an armed populace to remove such a person."
      How'd that go with the tyranny of segregation?

    • @mesothelioma5264
      @mesothelioma5264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ratofvengence Indeed if minorities were armed (difficult to obtain due to heavy racism) perhaps they could have better fought back against the heinous racism and violence they faced in the past. Would've saved alot of their lives and liveliehoods. Luckily we moved passed that and they can arm themselves today.

    • @beny7160
      @beny7160 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Entirely asinine conjecture. Based in no matter of fact or research.

    • @YourLittleDeath
      @YourLittleDeath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@beny7160 Of course, no authoritarian regime ever had or used guns against the people. Right?

  • @traderpete007
    @traderpete007 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And Australia is safer because of less guns, but in statistics it shows 5% higher rapes, double the burglaries, 12% more auto thefts. But what is really good as we let criminals go free and write more laws making law abiding citizens become felons just for protecting themselves, Australia average criminal sentence is 44% longer than in the US. Maybe the trick to stopping violent crime is throwing the criminals in jail and keeping them there.

  • @ironknightgaming5706
    @ironknightgaming5706 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    They forgot to mention that after the gun confiscation Australia became an authoritarian police state. Authoritarilia

    • @trashgaming3810
      @trashgaming3810 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      how

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bwahahaha no :D Australia outranks the US in EVERY freedom index. Go look :)

    • @AL3X2580
      @AL3X2580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bait

    • @nobot6177
      @nobot6177 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ratofvengenceliterally all of you were forced to get the jab, stay inside and do what the government says when they say it.
      Tell me your free again because some index says so…..

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nobot6177 Bwahaha! Noone was 'forced' to be vaccinated kiddo, but just like 'Murica, some vocations have mandatory vaccinations. Yes, we had lockdowns, supported by the vast majority because unlike the US, we care for each other. That's why we have a FRACTION the excess deaths rate you suffered from.
      And yes, EVERY freedom index boy.

  • @borkwoof696
    @borkwoof696 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I find it strange that you only looked at mass shootings and suicides committed with firearms after Port Arthur and not homicides committed with firearms before and after.

    • @djbrak1434
      @djbrak1434 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why? The whole point was to limit guns that could be easily used to do a mass shootings like semi-auto rifles. Australians still own lots of guns.

    • @almondsai7214
      @almondsai7214 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And the graphs are pretty much the same. An argument could be made that they were going down before the Port Arthur massacre, but there is a noticeable drop after the reforms were put into place.

    • @Marcin-cz4yp
      @Marcin-cz4yp ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@almondsai7214 If you look at the graphs for last 50 years of gun crime in Australia and calculate an average rate before and after the gun ban they are virtually the same. Yes, gun crime dropped in bigger rate for a while than it was before ban, but then it went up, the average stays the same. There is no statistical evidence that ban had any positive impact.

    • @almondsai7214
      @almondsai7214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Marcin-cz4yp I don't know what graphs you've been looking at but all the ones I've found say otherwise. Pretty much all of them show that after the 1996 Massacre both gun related crime and gun deaths went down. The rate at which gun crime and deaths is decreasing by is the same, but the actual figure is lower.

    • @Marcin-cz4yp
      @Marcin-cz4yp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@almondsai7214 And ive said it. It dropped down. But it was steadily dropping before the ban. We cannot prove, that this ban had any effect on the rate in which the gun crime is dropping, because the average rate before, and after is the same.

  • @soul_in_a_fishbowl
    @soul_in_a_fishbowl ปีที่แล้ว +108

    The ATF has recently attempted to reclassify pistols with braces as short barrel rifles. Out of the millions of braced pistols, only a fraction attempted to register. That’s probably the best sort of result you could expect if the government attempted a “gun buyback.”

    • @alecubudulecu
      @alecubudulecu ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Right. Approx 0.5% registered

    • @thowaway24767
      @thowaway24767 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Based

    • @ak9989
      @ak9989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the courts slapped them for it

    • @MrGoalie2012
      @MrGoalie2012 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      good

    • @the_chomper
      @the_chomper ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this comment needs to be higher

  • @MTbone7
    @MTbone7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Why would I sell my guns to the government? We love our guns

    • @sallygrasso1448
      @sallygrasso1448 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why do you love guns? I'm Australian and I honestly find it very confusing!

    • @MTbone7
      @MTbone7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@sallygrasso1448 why do you love your purse or your dog?

    • @bird4816
      @bird4816 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ​@@sallygrasso1448
      Firearms represent freedom and individuality

    • @sallygrasso1448
      @sallygrasso1448 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Strange that they're associated with individuality, aren't there many identical guns of the same model. Or do you customise them like a car?
      I don't really get the car thing either so maybe it's something I can't understand.

    • @bird4816
      @bird4816 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sallygrasso1448
      yeah there's always customization but not that kind of individuality. individuality as in self reliance and ability to provide for oneself. not to be mistaken for "I'm special and unique" but "I don't necessarily need outside help to handle a given situation". cars also represent a similar feeling of individuality. you can get into your vehicle and go anywhere, anytime.

  • @nipcoyote1140
    @nipcoyote1140 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Heres the thing:
    It'll only work if its mandatory, but it won't have enough support if its mandatory. So nothing will happen. Guns are far too popular and engrained into culture within the US.

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think Australia used to also be like this

    • @_blank-_
      @_blank-_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antishulk Australia needed a wake up call in the form of a mass shooting to change its mind. Meanwhile, the US has grown desensitized to massacres in schools.

    • @alecubudulecu
      @alecubudulecu ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The part this whole debate misses - American gun owners sunk a lot of money into guns. The average gun owner has spent approx $5-10,000 USD
      If you have half the population giving guns up.
      Who pays for the loss?
      I can tell you most - aside from being unwilling - certainly are not ok to get Pennies on the dollar for their expenses and investment.

    • @twrapps121
      @twrapps121 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@alecubudulecu fair prices were paid for the Australian buy back, as noted in the video. If USA can find a trillion dollars down the back of the couch for their army, surely they'll find a similar amount for a gun buy back? Surely??

    • @MrScissor90
      @MrScissor90 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It wont even work if it is mandatory. Have you seen the compliance numbers on the recent pistol with stabilizing brace rule? At best 8% of owners chose to register them in compliance with the ATF, at worst, 0.6%. If american gun owners are so defiant that they wont even register a gun accessory, how well do you think a mandate to turn in their firearms will go over. Oh, by the way, you'd have to repeal the 2nd amendment first which would require a 2/3 supermajority vote. Good luck with that and trying to track down over 400 million unregistered firearms. 😂

  • @Nathan-ko4ih
    @Nathan-ko4ih 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Two things Australia’s a nation surrounded by a body of water, and they don’t have cartels that would sell to people wanting a gun

  • @Xolerys
    @Xolerys ปีที่แล้ว +31

    2nd amendment is a fundamental right to Americans. Literally no matter how hard u try, you cannot infringe on that right.

    • @mistertubby
      @mistertubby ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are correct about the sentiment of many vocal americans but if the constitution can be amended to add rights it can be amended to repealed them. such as the 18th amendment being repealed by the 21st.

    • @Frenchfrys17
      @Frenchfrys17 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mistertubby The amendment would be proposed by either passing both houses of the Congress with 2/3 of the vote or be passed by a Constitutional convention requested by 2/3 of the States. Once formally proposed the amendment must then be ratified by 3/4 of the States before it would be adopted. That will never happen in the near future with the current US public opinion.

    • @DarrellWilkerson4.6
      @DarrellWilkerson4.6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Felony? 😂 I dont think you can lose rights and still call them a right

    • @BillO964
      @BillO964 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The constitution only protects my rights, Rights are inalienable.
      They are not granted by a government.
      Trying to take away rights from citizens is tyranny. That is exactly why the second amendment was included in the bill of rights. To enable citizens to protect themselves from tyrannical government.
      Nope, you can not have my guns.

  • @TNTkeynine
    @TNTkeynine ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Imagine if we actually solved this issue, instead of saying "thoughts and prayers" with no action.

    • @jaxjax2011
      @jaxjax2011 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What issue? Suicides and homicides? Gun control doesn't solve that. Unless the big problem is people owning guns...

    • @_blank-_
      @_blank-_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaxjax2011 Comprehensive gun control reduces homicides and suicides. Owning a gun makes you way more likely to act on your suicidal thoughts. I know that if I had a gun, I wouldn't be alive today but thankfully, I never had a "quick and easy" way to unalive myself.
      As for killings, the US has the highest homicide rate among rich countries.
      Unfortunately, I don't see this changing anytime soon, Americans love their guns too much. Who cares about kids, amirite?

    • @jpmeyer09
      @jpmeyer09 ปีที่แล้ว

      kick the black outs. instantly half the violent crime goes down

    • @jube8835
      @jube8835 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@jaxjax2011smells like freedom

    • @massmms
      @massmms ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jaxjax2011 did you watch the video? 4:23

  • @MsSuperasdfghjkl
    @MsSuperasdfghjkl ปีที่แล้ว +14

    US will give up democracy before giving up Guns😂

    • @arothmanmusic
      @arothmanmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, we're half way there then!

    • @HorseWithNoBane
      @HorseWithNoBane ปีที่แล้ว

      It may be impossible in US.... for now but doesn't mean not possible. Hope is quite foolish but powerful motivator.

  • @kevinbabicz
    @kevinbabicz ปีที่แล้ว +25

    After doing research on the “buyer”, it appears that it has a long history of murder and being being unstable. Would not give guns to them.

  • @davidschwartz870
    @davidschwartz870 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can save you 6 minutes… in America gun buybacks do nothing

    • @QWERTY-gp8fd
      @QWERTY-gp8fd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because government literally offers dirt for that sh,it. why sell it to government for 100$ when u can sell it to guy who will buy it for 500$

  • @TulilaSalome
    @TulilaSalome ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I think unfortunately the key is people must be shocked and outraged by mass shootings. Seems that this ship has sailed, if this amount if school shootings hasnt wokenpeople up, what would it take?

    • @mastershake407
      @mastershake407 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bringing a gun to a school is illegal. Killing kids is illegal. We just need ONE MORE LAW.

    • @marietwetegi
      @marietwetegi ปีที่แล้ว +27

      as long as the proposed solution is more guns make safer environments, theres no way.

    • @justcallmejudge
      @justcallmejudge ปีที่แล้ว +15

      it would only convinced the conservatives only if it directly affects them. rn only innocent children are the victims and they don't give a single f

    • @Luis-be9mi
      @Luis-be9mi ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Given how the US can’t go a day without some sort of shooting happening. I think it’s safe to say that Most people in the US has either become desensitized or accepted that shootings everyday is normal in a country that has more guns than people.

    • @marietwetegi
      @marietwetegi ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i always imagine it in newsreports as a seperate topic. like the weather, it is the shooting of the day

  • @Robot404_
    @Robot404_ ปีที่แล้ว +19

    4:25 they had a greater reduction in FIREARM suicides. Total suicides only barely decreased over this period.

    • @Argonnosi
      @Argonnosi ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, no, gun control advocates looking only at single metrics that paint an inaccurate picture to push the idea that gun control works? Say it isn't so.

  • @daverose2958
    @daverose2958 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will never happen in the United States

  • @eclar10
    @eclar10 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    A lot of people overlook the fact that gun control worked here in Australia partly because of Australia's unique territorial situation. Australia is technically an island continent which doesn't share borders with any other nation. Thus, when our government issued strict gun control laws, they worked because it wasn't as easy for people to illegally import guns into the country across our borders. I think this is a key factor which determined the success of our gun control laws. Because countries like the U.S. and Serbia don't share the same territorial conditions, I am not sure how successful gun control laws would be in those countries.

    • @MissReganomics
      @MissReganomics ปีที่แล้ว +27

      In the US our problems are within our own borders. You can Google “iron pipeline” -it’s a common term for the interstate used to smuggle guns into states with stricter gun control laws. There are people here who seem to see guns as part of their religion. Meanwhile children don’t feel safe going to school and mass shootings are nearly a daily occurrence but gun defenders will say it’s not the guns. It’s sickening.

    • @S1D3W1ND3R015
      @S1D3W1ND3R015 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Raygunomics Actually that is false. Studies have shown that the majority of guns used in crime came from the same state. This is yet another fallacy to misinformed and blame other states for gun control not working because evil evils and criminals criminal.

    • @S1D3W1ND3R015
      @S1D3W1ND3R015 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well a lot of people dont realize or care that Australia never has or had a constitutional guaranteed right to gun ownership. We do. Thus is why, whatever Australia, UK what have you do, does not matter over here because the 2A and the Constitution are specific restrictions on government power and control.

    • @bannanaboy8
      @bannanaboy8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet guns are being smuggled from the US into Canada and Mexico, not the other way around.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The overwhelming majority of guns in private ownership in the US has been manufactured in the US and has never left the country.

  • @isaiahkachaturian1626
    @isaiahkachaturian1626 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gun rights are human rights

    • @chazer0075
      @chazer0075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guns aren't humans actually ❤

    • @isaiahkachaturian1626
      @isaiahkachaturian1626 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chazer0075 I had to cover my guns ears so they didn’t hear your negativity

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol no.

    • @isaiahkachaturian1626
      @isaiahkachaturian1626 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ratofvengence lol yes you disagreeing won’t change it self defense is something everyone is entitled to

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaiahkachaturian1626 Self defense is a right. Guns are not a human right. You are getting the two confused, as they are not the same thing lol.

  • @REPEALHART-CELLERACT
    @REPEALHART-CELLERACT หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Buyback" is a censored term for "confiscation."

  • @Joa7_7
    @Joa7_7 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    "an alternative to thoughts and prayer" hit harder than it has a right to be

    • @Dumbledore6969x
      @Dumbledore6969x ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Imagine if we actually addressed the socioeconomic issues that caused shootings, instead of blaming the existence of inanimate objects 🤔

    • @primalreversion7034
      @primalreversion7034 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Dumbledore6969x Would you mind explaining why gun reform has been so successful, then?

    • @Dumbledore6969x
      @Dumbledore6969x ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@primalreversion7034 the two aren’t mutually exclusive. Nice try kid

    • @joeforza
      @joeforza ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@primalreversion7034 successful where? please dont say australia lol i live here and trust me it wasnt as successful as these anti gun media reporters play it out to be

    • @primalreversion7034
      @primalreversion7034 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dumbledore6969x you made it sound like gun reform isn't a good idea

  • @Riomojo
    @Riomojo ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I’ll save you all 6 minutes: Yes, but only if they are mandatory.

    • @scootergrant8683
      @scootergrant8683 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But sadly that isn't the case. Didn't work in N.Z.

    • @Marcin-cz4yp
      @Marcin-cz4yp ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck collecting 300 millions of unregistred firearms. The ban will only affect the normal, ordinary citizens. Gang members and people who have been planning a mass shooting for months or years will still get them, just illegaly.

    • @thepuff791
      @thepuff791 ปีที่แล้ว

      And in places that dont have the second ammendment. Criminals in the US wont follow a "mandatory" buyback. So quick math for the US: (law abiding citizens with guns + criminals with guns) - law anding citizens with guns = criminals with guns. Nothing changed.

  • @8023120SL
    @8023120SL ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Throughout the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s semi auto firearms were legally imported into Australia in the millions and millions - many of them ex military in origin. In some instances there were millions of individual models and hundreds of thousands of others.
    Just 640,000 of all types were taken by the government in 1996. Presumably the rest are still out there somewhere but WHERE is any bodies guess.
    Australia's rate of firearms related crime has continued to fall at the same rate as it was before '96.
    Many of our gun laws have been written by people that clearly have no idea what they're doing and would leave you wondering what sort of half wits are running the show were I to list some of them!
    Compulsory registration is a farcical clown show! You could be forgiven for thinking that 30 years and billions of dollars would be long enough and enough money to work out how to run such a system but the reality is that there STILL isn't a state that can maintain a simple list of property against a list of names with any degree of acceptable accuracy or efficiency. In fact, the Western Australian Auditor General stated that the WA system was so grossly inaccurate that it couldn't be fixed! The other states aren't much better.
    The "buyback" did nothing but destroy trust in government waste a staggering amount of money that continues to be wasted.

  • @brucecampbell4528
    @brucecampbell4528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Israel, the reason not to give up your arms.

  • @JustAnotherHuman33
    @JustAnotherHuman33 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The answer is no

    • @AL3X2580
      @AL3X2580 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you watch the video? Or did you just reach an uninformed emotional answer based off the title alone?

    • @Tylerd838
      @Tylerd838 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AL3X2580it’s unconstitutional to begin with

    • @AL3X2580
      @AL3X2580 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tylerd838 constitution can be amended

    • @anticarnistvegan
      @anticarnistvegan ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AL3X2580no need

  • @arthurmorgan4137
    @arthurmorgan4137 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The thing here in Australia is semi-automatic firearms aren’t banned, only heavily restricted to certain people, such as farmers and contractors hired to dispatch animals, from rabbits to kangaroos which may be destroying property.

    • @weasle5022
      @weasle5022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm here in West Aus, i have 2 semi auto handguns, a .357 revolver, mum and dad have semi auto pistols. I'm happy with the restrictions we have, but there are heaps of us with semi autos.

    • @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
      @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do these guns take down the emus? Or are they still immune to basically any firearm known to man...

    • @BrisbaneBroncosfan67
      @BrisbaneBroncosfan67 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904yeah they are invincible.

  • @kpmdude9378
    @kpmdude9378 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I remember growing up in the Pacific Northwest and hearing about the Sandy Hook shooting when I was in Middle School. It disturbed me greatly, but there was also a cushion of distance and a feeling of safety I felt, knowing that "the odds are that that doesn't happen to me." It comforted me as a kid in school to feel like this was a uniquely grotesque tragedy that may happen once every five years or so, in a place still geographically distant from myself. Nowadays, as a college student with two younger siblings and a daughter, none of that selfish cushion I could alott myself as an anxious child remains. I fear for each younger cousin I have when they grow old enough to enter public school. We have lockdowns at my campus sometimes when the nearby high school is theatened, which happens so often I cannot wrap my mind around it. There is no escaping this issue, is my point. Yet nowhere in the progression of devastating events that led us through the years between my naive childhood and our current reality did we draw a line in the sand. We have recieved nothing but lip service, will continue to recieve little beyond that, and the frustration I and so many other younger people feel at that complacency in the face of mass death is hard to describe. Some part of me hopes we can finally hit that point where the pressure mounts and there is no longer any way for our representatives to run from the havoc their inaction perpetuates. The other half of me is just petrified to imagine what horror could possibly jolt the nation out of its lull of inefficiency. Regardless, I appreciate the effort Serbia is making now. I commend them for attempting to do something to help, and even if its effectiveness may be dampened by a lack of compensation or enforcement, it could still show another model we may structure future movements around here in the states.

    • @__________M__________
      @__________M__________ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This deserves more likes, well said

    • @Prophes0r
      @Prophes0r ปีที่แล้ว

      Better laws would help. But they don't solve the actual problem.
      FYI, your fear and distrust is PART of the problem.
      We need to get rid of the stigma against mental healthcare.
      We need to get rid of Gun Culture.
      And we need to fix a system that keeps MOST people frustrated and powerless, because most people ARE.
      This isn't JUST a problem of irresponsible gun owners allowing a hormone-drunk (pre)teen to get their hands on a firearm.
      A healthy person with opportunity and agency doesn't shoot up a mall.
      Declawing an abused cat so it can't attack people doesn't really solve the "problem".
      It is still being abused.
      It still has teeth.

    • @jubal6654
      @jubal6654 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      One word:
      Republicans

    • @Prophes0r
      @Prophes0r ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jubal6654 Welcome to "You are part of the problem". Coffee and juice are on the table over there.
      Villainizing a group, no matter how wrong some members of that group are, isn't a good "solution" to a problem.

    • @kpmdude9378
      @kpmdude9378 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@M thanks, I appreciate it.

  • @zybon777
    @zybon777 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If the citizens don't have guns the police shouldn't have them either. The government is just as irresponsible with them (if not more so) as the average citizen.

  • @GrizzlyCompany
    @GrizzlyCompany ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll save you 6 minutes, no.

  • @Ninjaeule97
    @Ninjaeule97 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The most important part is recognizing the political culture. I'm pretty sure in none of these countries the right to defend yourself with deadly force is in their constitution and the ability to make yourself a ghost gun didn't exists. The US right now shares a lot of similarities with Yugoslavia (High debt load, high amounts of corruption and polarization, and a loss of faith in the system). It's probably more important to fix the underlying caused than to come up with a temporary solution to one symptom if you want to avoid sharing the same fate.

  • @trentroberdeau1462
    @trentroberdeau1462 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I'll never forget Clint Eastwood's response to gun buybacks: "Gun buybacks are like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids."

    • @vignotum132
      @vignotum132 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah not really

    • @trentroberdeau1462
      @trentroberdeau1462 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@vignotum132 yes, really

    • @mountainjews
      @mountainjews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Smooth brain take

  • @arturwelland7136
    @arturwelland7136 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always love how people point and look to Australia, while conveniently ignoring the fact that they are an island country. While guns can still be smuggled in via sea, it is many times more difficult than going across a land border.

  • @super_hero2
    @super_hero2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    can't even pass universal background check and we are talking about gun buyback?

    • @KB-ke3fi
      @KB-ke3fi ปีที่แล้ว

      background check? I can buy all the guns I want scratched clean at the border from Juan in the cartel. Cheap, too.

    • @utha2665
      @utha2665 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's because the gun lobby have the politicians in their pockets. One of two things should happen, either ban lobbyists or elect people that won't take money from the lobbyists. Both would be ideal.

    • @super_hero2
      @super_hero2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@utha2665 if people know better, we would be in a much better place unfortunately that is not the case.

    • @MrScissor90
      @MrScissor90 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@utha2665banning lobbyists means banning gun reform lobbyists as well. Im all for that.

    • @altrag
      @altrag ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't get ideas out there without talking about them. Having the discussion alone is worthwhile, even when there's no expectation of it happening in the US anytime soon.
      Not to mention Vox is watched worldwide (though this was obviously targeted to Americans - albeit mostly preaching to the choir as Vox is generally targeting a left-leaning audience).

  • @tattooedredheadx
    @tattooedredheadx ปีที่แล้ว +17

    ONLY 120.5 per person?! THOSE ARE ROOKIE NUMBERS, YOU GOTTA PUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP.

    • @Onako2
      @Onako2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you American?

    • @3agl33y369
      @3agl33y369 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to comment the same thing. 😂

    • @tattooedredheadx
      @tattooedredheadx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Onako2 Of course I am. There's only one country on this planet that matters, and that's the good ol' US of A!

    • @Onako2
      @Onako2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tattooedredheadx Then please give me one argument why a lot of weapons are good in your opinion.

  • @amosjsoma
    @amosjsoma ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It ain't the guns. When I was a little kid anyone could walk into any hardware store and buy a gun. No questions asked, just put the money on the counter and leave with the gun. Gun crime wasn't a big deal. Today our cities with the strictest gun laws lead the country in gun crime. In 2022 the following cities had these murders, Chicago 695, Los Angeles 382, Baltimore 333, Detroit 309, DC 203, St. Louis 196, Seattle 52 and Newark 50. Almost none of these murders were committed with so called assault weapons.

    • @3agl33y369
      @3agl33y369 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you limited information on firearms and make the simplest piece of plastic or metal part illegal.
      What does that do?... It increases "crime" and "felons". It also increase Accidents.

    • @jl789nz
      @jl789nz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem is people with guns who shouldn't have guns. Also with those statistics, you should be taking into account the population. Of course, the largest populations are going to have the most gun murders. Also, the talk about bans on assault weapons is because that is what is mostly used in mass shootings, not because they are used in homicides or suicides. The only valid reason to not want common sense gun laws is that it gets votes.

    • @amosjsoma
      @amosjsoma ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jl789nz You don't consider the murders I mentioned to be mass murder? 695 in Chicago sounds like mass murder to me and what "common sense gun control" will you propose that will change that number? I don't know what an assault weapon is and I'm pretty knowledgeable about guns. I'll guess by assault weapon you mean a rifle of some kind and virtually none of the murders being committed in some our cities use a rifle.

    • @jl789nz
      @jl789nz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@amosjsoma There so much more to it than just gun laws though, and it's a funny coincidence that the party who advocates for less gun laws are also the party that would vote down social programs to help a community with things like mental health.

  • @gregwilliams386
    @gregwilliams386 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember the gun buy backs in California. The cities offered $100 per gun. So people went out and bought $39 Mosin Nagants and sold them to the cities. Its also a good way to hide or destroy arms linked to crimes.

  • @jeffreyyoung4104
    @jeffreyyoung4104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Australia's 'buy back' was so popular, why are the majority of people complaining now?
    Especially since the government has had sweeping draconian laws passed against the citizens?

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "why are the majority of people complaining now?"
      They aren't.
      "the government has had sweeping draconian laws passed against the citizens?"
      Lol, such as?

    • @throwawaytrash33
      @throwawaytrash33 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the new generation complaining.

  • @tim290280
    @tim290280 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Quick point on the couple of mass shootings in Australia in the last decade: those are closely linked to DV and also to the loosening of gun laws that has been occurring due to gun lobbyists infiltration of political parties. Gun deaths in Australia are way down, but we're still seeing issues.

    • @arcssssss
      @arcssssss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What does DM stand for?

    • @tim290280
      @tim290280 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@arcssssss sorry, should have been DV as in domestic violence.

    • @arcssssss
      @arcssssss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh thanks

    • @bufordhighwater9872
      @bufordhighwater9872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How are "mass" shootings closely related to domestic violence? In the US, and I'd assume in most of the Western World, gun violence associate with domestic violence occurs in the actual domicile. Or, if outside the home it's a targeted attack on the spouse, not walking into a public building and unloading into Randoms.

    • @tim290280
      @tim290280 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@bufordhighwater9872 one of the three mass shootings in the graph was from someone shooting his entire family. That is DV and because of the number killed a mass shooting.
      And mass shootings don't have to be against random people or outside of the home. They just have be enough dead people.
      And as with most gun stats worldwide, there is a lot of deliberate/unintentional misclassification of deaths/injuries. What counts as DV in one police report might be recorded as regular assault/murder in another.

  • @TylerSmith-jf3dg
    @TylerSmith-jf3dg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    austrail gun ban was from one person and the population was against the gun ban, the gun ban made violent crime,rapes,home invasions and shootings go way up, and yes they still had mass shootings. there are more guns now in australia then before the gun ban..

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      Impressive. Everything you just said was a lie, except there being more guns. Yet with the strict laws, we have half the homicide rate we had.

    • @Mcfunface
      @Mcfunface ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ratofvengenceactually you're wrong, do you have a source for your claim?

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mcfunface I'm not wrong at all. Australian Institute of Criminology homicide data. In 2001-02 the homicide victim rate was 1.92/100,000. In 2020-21 it was 0.86, well less than half.
      So by what measure do you claim I am wrong?

    • @personperson3328
      @personperson3328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As an Australian, I feel I would have a better understanding of my country than a country where 17.3 million people (63% of Australia's population as a reference) think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. And after some research, the rate is 1.02.

  • @neondynamite
    @neondynamite ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Number of gun owners vs number of guns per resident are two totally different things. There’s a subculture of gun enthusiast that will heavily skew this data.

    • @altrag
      @altrag ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If anything they're skewing the data in the wrong direction for what I suspect is your point. Comparable countries with actually sane gun regulation will generally have more of their firearms in the hands of gun nuts and collectors as average people won't be nearly as interested in going through the hassle just to own a single weapon that they have to keep locked in a safe pretty much the entire time they have it.

  • @davidnovakovich5583
    @davidnovakovich5583 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For The Aussies, mandatory or face oppressive, stiff penalties was the biggest reason. The others you give are lame attempts to justify then lunacy.

  • @0mn1prism59
    @0mn1prism59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a waste to destroy all those guns. They should be keeping them in an armory for when they need them.

    • @YourLittleDeath
      @YourLittleDeath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not agreeing nor disagreeing with you but what sort of situation would you envisage them being needed exactly?

  • @tomjones9510
    @tomjones9510 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mandatory buy back = confiscation.

    • @YourLittleDeath
      @YourLittleDeath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Confiscation with "compensation".

  • @parabelllum8733
    @parabelllum8733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Australian buy back has had little effect on homicide rates in Australia - in other words a total failure

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The total homicide rate fell by half. You are wrong.

  • @reytang5933
    @reytang5933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You people keep comparing other countries to the usa about GUNS. Here is the difference for you in one word: Constitution. It is not written & protected fervently in any other countries constitution. It is our "god given right... to bear arms" written by our founding fathers and protected by our entire government system. I.E. checks and balance. Even if some tyrant or hippie tried to remove the 2nd amendment, it is not going to pass as law because of how our law procedure works. Not to mention our supreme court whose literal job is to uphold the constitutional law. And our military branches who are all sworn to the constitution (not to the President!) to defend it. GOOD LUCK.

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      "Here is the difference for you in one word: Constitution."
      Are you even aware every nation has one of these?
      "It is our "god given right... to bear arms""
      God has nothing to say about letting any fool have access to firearms.

  • @jond4324
    @jond4324 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not here they don't. First of all, I abhor the term "buyback". You can't buy something back that you didn't own in the first place. The phrase subtly suggests guns belong to the government and that they merely "allow" you to have them.
    Two, the police around here conducted one of these discount firearm sales for themselves. They collected just shy of 2 dozen guns, in a town of about 5 or 6 thousand. I believe 9 of them were broken and missing parts, 12 were old, cheap, beat up hunting rifles, and the last 2 were most likely hot guns that looked like someone attempted to file off the serial numbers. Needless to say, they were very disappointed and its never been tried again.
    America's guns are not for sale

  • @filipos7459
    @filipos7459 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In Australia they paid much more for the gun than it was worth so everyone handed them in.

  • @pvp66
    @pvp66 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Buy Back” is a CONFISCATION.

  • @vastcarter
    @vastcarter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me and my friends thought about building guns from scratch to sell to the government for profit

    • @Mcfunface
      @Mcfunface ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pipe shotguns are a good one to try out 😅

    • @YourLittleDeath
      @YourLittleDeath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, it wasn't quite complete guns but there were actually cases of people making and selling gun parts to the government in the time of the Australian "buy back".

  • @HoanNguyen-lf3rr
    @HoanNguyen-lf3rr ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I like how the ending is hopeful and uplifting for Serbia, but doesnt even mention US 😭

    • @cccyanide3034
      @cccyanide3034 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the US are neck deep in, they need to do actual progress before the international community can be uplifting

    • @tripy75
      @tripy75 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is not much illusion outside of the US about the fact that half that country is ok with children being mowed down by mini-guns.
      I think it's pretty well established.

    • @dduleyt
      @dduleyt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a Serb, i'd tell You that it's actually uplifting because Serbia is trying to make a change now and is by the size of Maryland. US will never be able to revert their law and reduce gun possession because of the sheer size and mentality of the people. In Serbia, there's only 5mil of us, we at least have a chance to disapear from the map of gun possession in a fast way...or so we hope.

    • @stefanvulin9527
      @stefanvulin9527 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dduleyt Why should we want to get rid of our guns when we don't have a gun problem? Serbia has the same murder rate as the UK. Guns aren't the issue.

    • @joshuaparnecio4404
      @joshuaparnecio4404 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dduleytbecause we don’t genocide our people because of what they looked like?

  • @monkeydui7241
    @monkeydui7241 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Basically no

  • @themastermason1
    @themastermason1 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I feel Australian law enforcement in several of the states went overboard since airsoft guns and gel blasters are considered firearms based on the belief that somehow, they could be converted into real guns. This is despite that these replica weapons are made from plastic and aluminum and would explode if real ammunition was somehow jammed into them.

    • @Prophes0r
      @Prophes0r ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I honestly can't believe they picked Australia as an example of working gun-laws.
      That said, you could absolutely convert those toys into working weapons.
      You could also, with the same effort, build a firearm from hardware store parts.
      So it isn't really a 'good' argument.

    • @ThexBorg
      @ThexBorg ปีที่แล้ว

      Airsoft will probably be allowed but the guns will have restrictions and only certain types, and registration/background check will apply.

  • @hotdogsforfingers1989
    @hotdogsforfingers1989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cant be a buy back if i never bought from the government

  • @leeharveygriswold6160
    @leeharveygriswold6160 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Firearm related homicides peaked and have been on the decline on Australia since ~1969 or arguably 1980 a in either case 16 to 27 years before the buyback. Anyone can look that up on the Australian institute of criminology. Meanwhile the overall homicide rate has trended upward since a low in 1950. People find a way.

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting that you quote a primary source then lie about the data. The homicide rate is now half what it was in the mid 90's, do tell how that is 'trending upward'?

    • @patrickbateman1660
      @patrickbateman1660 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ratofvengenceit trended up a few years after the ban

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickbateman1660 Guns are still legal to own in Australia; but we don't let any clown own them like 'Murica does. The homicide rate plunged after the change to handgun laws in 2002, and stayed down. The OP lied.

  • @leathorns1751
    @leathorns1751 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ireland had gun amnesty days/weeks too - not a buy back, but you could drop off your illegal firearms at your local garda station. Quite a few had guns from the 1920s-30s from previous generation due to civil war hidden away, and also arms from the IRA times in the 70s. The dad of my siblings friend volunteered to drop off all the neighbours/locals guns for them, it was meant to be anonymous but your local garda probably knows you!

  • @CowboyJuice
    @CowboyJuice ปีที่แล้ว +9

    FYI: if we were just going to buy exact ar15 pattern rifles in the US (this does not include rifle styles like the sig mcx) the cost would simply be more than medicare for all and free mental healthcare.
    What do you think is going to behave a larger impact on crime

    • @thepuff791
      @thepuff791 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Such a good take. I like to think of myself as a well versed 2A supporter, but even I didnt think of that.

  • @ivanhecimovic5272
    @ivanhecimovic5272 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    as someone who appreciates the technology and history of guns it saddens me to see so many guns destroyed without a second thought. I sincerely hope that my neighbors (Serbia) will do the right thing and put the most valuable and historically important rifles in appropriate collections and museums, or at least allow legal, mentally healthy and verified individuals to buy them and keep them in their collections. It is true that guns on the streets are a great evil and danger, but a rifle can also be a piece of art and craftsmanship.

    • @PBMS123
      @PBMS123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The guns destroyed were those that wouldn't be legal to own without a licence that would be difficult to get. The majority were a bunch of boring mass produced pump actions

    • @joedirt1965
      @joedirt1965 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most museums that display firearms have a much greater number in storage that will never be shown. The vast majority of the guns being destroyed are not rare.

  • @josephcler3299
    @josephcler3299 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In Australia they just changed the wording of legally purchased weapon to being illegal and forced its citizens to give up there guns or face jail time.

    • @vvillem9
      @vvillem9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where guns?

    • @seanmccann8368
      @seanmccann8368 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vvillem9 🤣

    • @sallygrasso1448
      @sallygrasso1448 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...yes... that's what changing a law usually does.

  • @amir-ng6jv
    @amir-ng6jv ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Easiest way to ensure people can't rise up against a tyrannical government

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, letting any fool have access to guns doesn't stop tyranny. It didn't prevent the tyranny of segregation, nor did it end it. Interment? That still happened...

    • @Tylerd838
      @Tylerd838 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ratofvengenceyes it does

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tylerd838 The tyranny of segregation and internment happened. Or are you in denial?

    • @Tylerd838
      @Tylerd838 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ratofvengence how does that affect my rights today

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tylerd838 I never said it did. I merely stated facts that contradict the OP.

  • @coolbluereview
    @coolbluereview ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Vox please make longer videos

    • @PushyPawn
      @PushyPawn ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Watch them at x0.5 speed and you instantly have twice as long videos.

  • @huangjason6557
    @huangjason6557 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mass gun buyback sounds like a good business for firearm producer.

  • @thestrapguy2006
    @thestrapguy2006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only came across this channel now, but it would be interesting to see the s-cide rates done by other means (Cars, h4nging, Poison etc) since the 'take/buyback' was implemented in Oz to see if other areas have picked up on the inevitable, or if it realy has made a difference in 'those' areas..

  • @ulysisxtr
    @ulysisxtr ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "It's easy to control people. It's hard to educate them."

  • @carlubambi5541
    @carlubambi5541 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The safest countries are the most armed countries .Switzerland its the law !

  • @cristianpopescu78
    @cristianpopescu78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People who suffered under Totalitarismus are far more than anything else.
    Czeh Republic and Swizerland have no gun issues.
    The Problem is a cultural one.

  • @dennisbryan7522
    @dennisbryan7522 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To answer your question vox no gun buy backs will not work because we don't want to sell

    • @sH-ed5yf
      @sH-ed5yf ปีที่แล้ว

      Aperently they work.

    • @dennisbryan7522
      @dennisbryan7522 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sH-ed5yf Not here they won't and you can't force people to sell either

    • @rem5272
      @rem5272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dennisbryan7522 You won't know until you tried it.

    • @dennisbryan7522
      @dennisbryan7522 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rem5272 No I do know because I'm a gun owner plus they can't force people to sell

    • @johncena-hq1ti
      @johncena-hq1ti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rem5272they tried here in Louisiana. They received like 200 guns total 🤣 so that’s supposed to work with 400 million?

  • @patriot-wf1er
    @patriot-wf1er ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gun buyback
    Citizen buys gun for $800
    Government buys back for $40

    • @heynowur9146
      @heynowur9146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liberals claim it’s a “fair purchase”

  • @onemorechris
    @onemorechris ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the last school shooting in the UK was 1996. we had a gun amnesty too. we are safer and freer than the US because of it. and don’t try to compare a semi automatic military killing machine with a kitchen knife; it ‘ant the same.

    • @Marcin-cz4yp
      @Marcin-cz4yp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "semi automatic military killing machine ' you have absolutely no knowledge of guns, do you?

    • @evolutionj
      @evolutionj ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously we can’t compare the UK with the US because they don’t have the right the bear arms. He right, it aint the same.

    • @FrankLipp-sc8hz
      @FrankLipp-sc8hz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll make sure to bring a knife proof vest with me to London

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FrankLipp-sc8hz The US has a HIGHER knife homicide rate than the UK. Didn't you know?

    • @ussocom3644
      @ussocom3644 ปีที่แล้ว

      Freer? You mean the country that arrests people for making jokes on the internet?

  • @Joshua_-The_Burned_Man-_Graham
    @Joshua_-The_Burned_Man-_Graham ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This worked well for Ukraine, Germany, China, Hong Kong, (soon to be) Taiwan, Israel, and Russia. Nothing bad ever happened in these countries.
    Keep scrolling
    😉😂

    • @personperson3328
      @personperson3328 ปีที่แล้ว

      You also forgot, Australia, New Zealand, UK, and your friend Canada. Which all worked and they don't have to worry about getting shot or stabbed.

  • @robert3829
    @robert3829 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The massive amount of content missing from this video is disturbing, there are a 1000 factors missing and this video would have one believe if you just take it away, the rainbows come out. Wow

  • @albiorix9645
    @albiorix9645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in Britain I have been robbed twice and stabbed 47 times I'm not in any gang. I wish it was legal to carry a handgun if you have a license imagine if citizens could defend themselves how quickly knife-crime would go down muggings home invasions . do you know they advertise in London for people to not wear a watch otherwise you will get robbed at knife point most likely

    • @chazer0075
      @chazer0075 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You ain't been stabbed 47 times 😭 if you're going to lie make it realistic

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure kiddo, sure. Meanwhile, the US has over QUINTUPLE the UK homicide rate. So tell me again about how much safer they are with all those guns?

    • @DarrellWilkerson4.6
      @DarrellWilkerson4.6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the uk had legal cc their would be non-stop shootings 😂

    • @ratofvengence
      @ratofvengence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarrellWilkerson4.6 Just like in the US. It's weird how they think that makes them safer lol.

  • @alecubudulecu
    @alecubudulecu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This piece ignores the cost. Who pays for a gun buyback? Approx half of Americans own guns. Most have approx $5k to $10k invested in firearms.
    That’s $1.3 Trillion USD.
    You think those folks will just happily take the financial hit?

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv ปีที่แล้ว

      It also assumes every state and police force will just comply. I don't see rural red county sheriff's complying with a mandatory gun buyback especially if their states don't either

    • @alecubudulecu
      @alecubudulecu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdamSmith-gs2dv of course. I mean If usa could magically get to the point where it’d be considered. Which it won’t. Then there’s the actual bill.
      I personally know dozens of folks in firearms community with 50-150k worth of guns. They won’t be like “here. You can have them for $10”
      And you betcha they would lawyer up and fight tooth and nail against this. Multiply that by millions of people like that.

  • @Raining_lead_pellets
    @Raining_lead_pellets ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think it’s sad how some of those firearms that get destroyed held emotional value to the owner, I own an air rifle my Weihrauch hw57. That’s the first air rifle I ever had it’s to me also VERY important because it reminds me of how much my mom truly trusts me, it reminds me of who I am. While most kids my age are out partying and waisting there time and can’t even be trusted with a butter knife, I’m here as a responsible teen and I’m responsible enough for my mom to trust me with an air rifle and around 1000 rounds of ammo on my room.
    Most kids my age bullied me because I’m boring. But I am boring to them because they don’t know what responsibility is. I will never surrender that air rifle because it holds so much emotional value to me.
    I would rather have it stripped from its inner workings so that I can keep it on my wall, or I would pay to get licenses to keep it but in no way shape or form will the possibility of me surrendering that one exist
    And for some people there firearms mean the same, some people have a gun that is in the family for hundreds of years or some people have another story behind a fire arm and then it’s sad to think how some bad people or irresponsible people have ruined it for the good and responsible firearm owners
    My air rifle reminds me how proud I can be to be myself and my air rifle reminds how proud my mom can be of who she made out of me
    My air rifle reminds me I don’t have to change
    My air rifle will remind people that I am a responsible and trustworthy person
    And my air rifle is and will always be my air rifle!

  • @tylerrichards5457
    @tylerrichards5457 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Now these are the VOX videos I’ve been missing

    • @AlejandroFlores-vi8tl
      @AlejandroFlores-vi8tl ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Right? I feel like recent Vox videos have been lacking

    • @tylerrichards5457
      @tylerrichards5457 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AlejandroFlores-vi8tl completely agree

    • @callme_Sweetpea
      @callme_Sweetpea ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yet it is factually wrong at a few places... Which just made me sigh.

    • @ussocom3644
      @ussocom3644 ปีที่แล้ว

      You miss being indoctrinated?

  • @emiliofranceschetti104
    @emiliofranceschetti104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Brasil, we got more violent since de gun buyback

    • @hominhmai5325
      @hominhmai5325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No 💩 criminals dont care about laws

  • @mb19842002
    @mb19842002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We passed a law in oregon that police have to test and train people before they can buy a firearm, but didnt fund the infrastrucure to support it.

  • @JustbeWorkin
    @JustbeWorkin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If there is a national disarming of U.S citizens, the only people with guns will be the government and cops. And when there is someone in power who may threaten the fabric of the nation, who will be there to uphold the rights of its citizens ? Most of the governments thriving today are the result of a revolution overthrowing the last which were overstepping boundaries. Gun laws are great when a population doesn't need guns at the moment, but when you do need them, what can you do against those using them against you?

    • @SS0895
      @SS0895 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a futile argument at this point. I agree with you, but easily half the world’s population is subhuman cattle. They will do as their told by their superiors, and if that order is to disarm, they will disarm.

  • @alexanderveritas
    @alexanderveritas ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Yes, as a Romanian with *Serbian* friends I can attest to the obsession Serbians reserve towards weapons. Truth being said most Romanian people I know buy their guns from Serbia, from private owners, including my uncle, an ex-sergeant in the Romanian army.

  • @andresd3104
    @andresd3104 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Owning guns is a human right. Come and take it.

    • @douglasconnolly6357
      @douglasconnolly6357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Being free from gun violence is also a human right.

    • @monkofdarktimes
      @monkofdarktimes ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's not

    • @johncena-hq1ti
      @johncena-hq1ti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@douglasconnolly6357how about free from other violence?

  • @JPaul60
    @JPaul60 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How can you buy back something you never owned.

  • @ToothPasteLOL
    @ToothPasteLOL ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im sure the criminal lined up around the corner to give up theirs 😂😂😂

  • @JJ-wq9og
    @JJ-wq9og ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Never comply with gun control