UPDATE: There's now been another paper published that found more evidence in favour of the Tully Monster being a vertebrate, but it's probably not the end to the debate yet. We talked about the new discovery in this episode of 7 Days of Science: th-cam.com/video/WL_tjvSBzdQ/w-d-xo.html
The almost comical titles of the papers "the tullymonster is a vertibrate" followed by "the tullymonster is not a vertibrate", combined with the bizarreness of the tullymonster itself makes this whole thing seem like a rambling tangent from the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy books.
Imo i honestly think this is one of the first squids to have lived on earth, the jaw looks alot like what a squids beak, and the long probuscus it has is what probably turned into their tentacles, just a theory
@@XSL17X I don’t know if they’re related because there isn’t that much evidence of Tully Monster having mollusk ancestry. However I would agree that it has similar morphology to Squid which may be a case of convergent evolution. Something interesting to note though is that Squid eyes and fins are parallel but Tully Monster’s is perpendicular. Something else to consider is that with its eyes on stalks perpendicular to its fins they may result in excess drag while swimming so it may indicate that it can’t swim very quickly.
While it isnt related, its body looks like a squid or cuttlefish without the tentacles, the beak and eyes extended, honestly cephalopods are only normal because we grew accustomed to them
I adore the Tully Monster. It is just so wierd. We aren't even fully sure which side is the dorsal side yet because it is almost eldritch in its morphology.
Wanted to make a Lovecraft reference and you beat me to it. This thing could translate extremely well the themes of the unknown and uncertain of cosmic horror
Can't tell which side is which? How very like an octopus. I currently have to favor an early branch off the same group as the octopi, squid, nautiloids, etc. You can almost reproduce the body shape from a cuttle fish if you remove all but one tentacle.
The series of scientific papers: "The Tully monster is a vertebrate" "The Tully monster is not a vertebrate" "Yes it is" "Is not" "Is so" "Is not is not is not" "Is so times one million"
I live in a small town called, Morris! it’s the town over from Mazon, i fish and fossil hunt at the mazon creek very frequently! Was great to see my home area highlighted in this video :)
I really hope there are tully’s still wandering around in the deep depths of the ocean so that when one is found it confirms its identity as an invertebrate, but ironically raises even more questions as to how it’s survived unchanged and where it’s been all this time
If you have not already you should look up “living fossils”. I think you’ll quite enjoy the topic if the question of how it remained unchanged peaks your interest. Just to clarify though you won’t get an answer but rather you’ll find animals that walked/swam with the dinos that are still around relatively unchanged to this day.
I believe the true answer to this mystery wrapped in an enigma with a little conundrum sauce and a dash of cilantro wrapped in a tortilla may be found with a full translation of the 1956 recording of _"Rubber Biscuit,"_ by _"The Chips."_ _(No need to thank me, I'm here to help.)_
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@@MissEwe Namaste. I find your sheepishness quite refreshing in this land of Tully monsters, unicorns and trolls. And I appreciate the new sub, as my old one can barely submerge anymore without leaking. However that is my own fault for not repairing the screen door sooner, but I digress right out the egress and down that long lonesome two lane highway, with my coat collar turned toward the wind, all the way till the break of day. After all, the blues ain't nothin' but a good soul feelin' bad; and as for me, I might get better, but I'll never get well. Hope to hear from you on the other channel. ONE LOVE. Namaste
what if the jaw is actually normally tucked in. only when it dies, it loses that muscle tension control and the mouth comes spitting out. then in natural world...when it is alive it would be beneficial to plop above a spot on the coral reef and stretch this mouth out to "reach" for food.???
As soon as I saw the Tully Monster, I thought to myself "that looks so much like a cephalopod" especially the body plan. It looks very similar to cuttlefish and squid. The (presumed) eye protrusions are unusual, but the actual eye structure itself also looks similar to cephalopod eyes. The proboscis and mouth are certainly the most peculiar-looking elements. Perhaps it is a cephalopod that had an external beak or similar structure? Fascinating creature. I bet this will have scientists baffled for years to come.
I was thinking the same thing. If it is some distant cephalopod ancestor, then all those live reconstruction images are showing it swimming backwards, and if it did swim with the pointy fin in the front like squids do, the elbow on its proboscis would enable its mouth to face forward.
I used to find these all the time when I was a kid living in Morris, IL. It was fun to spend the day at the old strip mine hills and look for the nodules and crack them open with my hammer to see what was inside. There were two other strange soft bodied creatures to be found besides the Tully Monster, the Aitches and the Wyes.
it is an alien world, the fact that we understand it and know what to expect now doesn't change the fact that every living organism is just odd and weird, we just don't see it that way because we know what to expect when going outside for a walk.
paper posted in Nature: -Tully monster is vertebrate Year later: -Tully monster is NOT a vertebrate Year later: -Yes it is vertebrate Year later: -No its not Year later: -Yes it is. Year later -No -Yes. -NO -YES
I would go with Alexagrigorieff. There is no way it is a vertibrate as the vertibral column is absent. Unless cartilage doesn't fossilise as well as bones do?As far as I know, the Notochord rarely fossilises, but of course can be found in the BUrgess Shales which record the earliest member of the CHordate phylum. The Lamphrey quoted is not a Vertibrate. But along with the lancelets , hagfish and Vertibrates we have the phylum of Choradata.
My guess would be that it burried itself up to its eyes (horizontally I think, probably why the need for eyestalks and maybe why the proboscis was elbowed, but also for attack speed) and grabbed little fish and bugs as they swam by. It lived in a delta so it was in shallow brackish water. It could hide by the weeds, as small fish gravitate there anyway, and pluck them as they wandered by and maybe grab small things above water as well. Or maybe a carion eater, but I don't think so.
It looks like the tail of a squid. Maybe it was before squids had multiple tentacles and before their mouths were in the middle of their tentacles. Squids have a beak-like mouth, right? I know that looks like a crab claw, but it could have evolved into a single beak. Back then, it only had one tentacle and the mouth was at the tip because it was easier to reach fish like a spear, or to shove it into holes to dig out whatever fish is living in it?
@@whoeverofhowevermany No, but that was a very good guess, young Jedi. I am the egg man. We are the egg men. I am the walrus. _Also, be on the lookout for kitty kat imposters._ There are diabolical bunnies afoot in furry kitty kat kostumes, infiltrating our local bingo clubs, NRA chapters and trade unions. Fortunately, Aunt Teefa discovered a way to identify these pussy impersonators. The felonious faux felines can be identified by their _Fake Mews._
The things that have lived on this planet blow my mind. Who would swim when there's creatures like that in the water. Edit: I'm curious if it was like the bobbit worm and it sat in wait and used the appendage to catch pray and that's why it has it. I don't imagine it was an effective swimmer and would explain its eyes being out the side, probably had 360 vision to see in coming pray.
That seems like a good theory. Soft tissue really doesn't fossilize well and tullimonstrum could have easily had some sort of "foot" like clams to attach them to the seabed
Great TH-cam channel! Made for people who can deal with controversy, inconclusive evidence, and contradictory theories. You know-scientists! Really appreciating an inside view of how paleontology works, and the excitement of ongoing research. Thanks, Ben!
The Tully Monster looks like an early squid to me. I remember in the 1960's, there was a book on the Loch Ness Monster by someone whose name I can't remember that had a striking blue tinted cover with the famous "surgeon's photo" enlarged. This author was sure he'd solved the mystery. Nessie was a giant Tully monster!
I believe the tully monster was a mollusk. Look at the squid like tail, the snail like eyes. I believe the mouth also worked like the eyes, in that it could be retracted giving it more of a torpedo shape when hunting or moving. I can't prove this of course... because Im poor haha But mark my words...it's a mollusk.
Yeah, it looks like the proboscis would retract right? It's not articulated like a fucking arm lmfao. It probably worked somewhat like a chameleon tongue? Please tell me we aren't the only ones to think this
Mm... If the proboscis was to retrac there should be some anatomical feature at the eyes' level resembling a chamber or something like that. Or at least a few of the specimens should have be found with the proboscis retracted.
@@carrier2823 It's conceivable giving that in some cases, all we know about an entire classification are a few small fragments of bones that there are entire dinosaurs we havn't discovered, but I don't think it's very likely that there are classifications of animals APART from dinosaurs. They would have had to exist in ways that left absolutely no traces, not even descendants. But never say never.
The largest single life form on earth, is the humongous fungus in Oregon, it's a honey mushroom mycelium mat and basically the floor of an entire forest. I doubt it will leave any noticeable remains in the fossil record, if or when it goes. Also to consider is if whole fossils are rare and the bigger ones more so, what would be the odds of the biggest fossil ever also being the biggest creature to ever live?
@@amewarashi5770 I take your points Ame. What a loss to us all never to even know taht these creatures existed. Of course, it's worth noting that some of the oldest traces of life on the entire planet were types of seafloor slime... :-)
Some species cannot be tracked because they never evolved and did not servive when extinct entirely it's hard to say if the fossil record ended or is still undiscovered!🤔
It just looks like a squid with one long mouth instead of tentacles, if squids actively hunt pulling food into the beak, then this thing looks like it was shoving its mouth into holes to get something out, clearly if they are eyes whatever it was eating wasn't a threat as much as what maybe around it as it could clearly see all around but not focused on forward looking at wherever it was digging about. Whatever it is its a wonderful bit of convergence evolution (maybe) a squid with a reversed mouth.
This is brilliant science communication. Congrats. In an age of growing masses denying science and refusing rationality, this is brilliant. Everything is there - the notion that science is a constant debate, good sources, Simple yet effective explanations. Thank you! Thank you!
Shame on all of you. We are all as *_Dog_* made us. _(And what can you expect, if you were made by a dog? I mean, look at what a dog makes in the back yard, for Dog's sake.)_
Fun fact: the creek is locally pronounced like "Muh-zon", with the Ma part rhyming with the Mon in Monday, and the end sounding "zon" rhyming with ON like a like switch. Thank you for covering such a weird and amazing creature!
@@ambulocetusnatans Yeah, without going into to much detail, I've spent a decent amount of time in the area! It's very lovely, and some of the local libraries have tully monster displays last I'd seen!
Hi Ben! I loooooove your videos i'm such a fan you are so professional you have kept me entertained for hooouuurs. But i have a question for you - have you done any videos on ceratopsians? I had a look but i couldn't find any... if not, would you mind explaining the history of ceratopsian, the usual, what they evolved from, basal and derived ceratopsians? Ooor, you could even do a series! That would be amazing. Thanks, Ajay.
Well, based on what we know it's probably a sister class to cephalopods that retained the characteristics of gastropods such as eyes on stalks, multiple 'siphons' on the side, the radula, but it also seems to have a remnant of an internal shell, a general layout like a cephalopod, and an extended feeding arm. Which is weird, because this is like looking at a slug squid and that's very odd.
Well that's history for you. Some creatures back in the day just looked hellah weird like new creatures will in a couple million years, if we would be still alive to see that anyways.
OMG that is THE best comeback to the Tully Monster. I cant stop laughing 😂 . Look Im a paleobotanist - so not my specialty, but honestly the debate on this topic is EPIC. but has everything to do with the taphonomic processes. Great vid.
i remember going to mazon creek with cub scouts for a fossil hunt. before we went out, we were shown a slide show in someone’s house. the only thing i remember from that slide show was the tully monster. no one in the group found any tully fossils, but someone did find a leaf fossil.
you ever reckon aliens are trying to predict what aliens look like to them, and then one day they like discover us and our fossils and theyre just like. Alien: Bro wtf.
Fun fact: the Wikipedia article on synapsids includes a picture of Leonid Brezhnev and Richard Nixon in its gallery of creatures, alongside the platypus and Dimetrodon.
Thank you for this video! I am from Chicago, IL and I remember learning about the Tully Monster in my state history class and getting very excited IL had been famous for an unknown fossil! I’m hoping to get to the Amazon Creek this summer
The only way I learn anything scientific is by watching ur videos. I learn more by watching these than listening to my science teacher talk for an hour.
This truly unique animal proves that the 'lifeforms' at the beginning of the evolutionary cycle of life; were much more unsettling and differentiated in appearance; in a word; they were the 'true' aliens
If it is extinct in your way of comprehending the universe it doesn't mean anything really. Maybe we as humans are experiencing the universe backwards, so in God's view Tully Monster is the future of the universe and we are the past.
Paleontologists: What are you? Tully Monster: I'm happy Paleontologists: No, what species are you? Tully Monster: I'm a friend Paleontologists: I meant what's in your genes? Tully Monster: Joy
The “General Impression of Size and Shape” (as birders say) of the Tully Monster strikes me as that of a cephalopod. That by no means proves anything, but it’s an interesting data point.
It's funny that Tully in North India means drunk Hence in Hindi Tully monster should be called drunk monster😂😂😂 It can be called that due to its body design as well
Looking at this creature from a purely NON-scientific perspective, how is this NOT the progenitor, or at least an evolutionary offshoot, of a cuttlefish, octopus and squid? It lacks the flared tentacles, instead we see it's proto-beak and those "teeth" are simply pseudo-teeth projections along the beak. i can immediately envision the animal drawing in water as it bites, then grasping the food, squirting the water out of its siphon holes, creating a thrust, increasing the tearing power of the bite, and also functioning as a means of escaping predators. i am guessing it is a scavenger, feeding on the carcasses of larger fish.
Fossil record doesn't show evolution(speciation). The Cambrian explosion refers to the sudden, simultaneous appearance of most of the animal phyla (body plans) that occurred 542-543 million years ago. Ten of the many challenges the Cambrian explosion poses to evolutionary explanations for life are as follows: While evolutionary scenarios, as opposed to worked-out theories, exist for hypothesizing how new genera, new orders, and new families of animal life might appear, there is no rational evolutionary scenario for explaining how a new animal phylum might appear. From 50 to 80 percent of the animal phyla known to have existed at any time in Earth’s history appeared within no more than a few million years of one another, as the Cambrian geological era began. Of the 182 animal skeletal designs theoretically permitted by the laws of physics, 146 appear in the Cambrian explosion fossils. The Cambrian explosion marks the first appearance of animals with skeletons, bilateral symmetry, appendages, brains, eyes, and digestive tracts that include mouths and anuses. Virtually every eye design that has ever existed appears simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion. The moment oxygen levels in Earth’s atmosphere and oceans permit the existence of Cambrian animals, they suddenly appear. The Cambrian explosion occurs simultaneously with the drastic change in sea chemistry known as the Great Unconformity. The Cambrian explosion includes the most advanced of the animal phyla, chordates, including vertebrate chordates. Both bottom-dwellers and open ocean swimmers appear simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion. Optimization of the ecological relationships among the Cambrian animals, including predator-prey relationships, occurred without any measurable delay. Jeffrey S. Levinton, “The Cambrian Explosion: How Do We Use the Evidence?,” BioScience 58 (October 2008): 855, doi:10.1641/B580912. Gregory A. Wray, “Rates of Evolution in Developmental Processes,” American Zoologist 32 (February 1992): 131, doi:10.1093/icb/32.1.123. Kevin J. Peterson, Michael R. Dietrich, and Mark A. McPeek, “MicroRNAs and Metazoan Macroevolution: Insights into Canalization, Complexity, and the Cambrian Explosion,” BioEssays 31 (July 2009): 737, doi:10.1002/bies.200900033.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep First, this fossil is not from the Cambrian Period, so your comment isn't even relevant. Second, the so-called "explosion" is merely due to the vast geological time scale. You are thinking of it as a still frame from a movie, but it is more like a chapter of a book. A lot can happen in one chapter. Why are all of your references more than 10 years old? It's almost like you knew the conclusion you wanted, then went looking for proof. That is not how science is done.
@@ambulocetusnatans No you are incorrect across the board. My comment was relevant and valid OP clearly brought up this species "how is this NOT the progenitor, or at least an evolutionary offshoot, of a cuttlefish, octopus and squid?" That is what I addressed. Secondly you are complete incorrect about the Cambrian explosion and it's relevance. Here is one biologists compilation on it which should educate you on the relevance of the subject. But I doubt it since you couldn't even establish the context between my response and OP. Fossil record doesn't show evolution(speciation). The Cambrian explosion refers to the sudden, simultaneous appearance of most of the animal phyla (body plans) that occurred 542-543 million years ago. Ten of the many challenges the Cambrian explosion poses to evolutionary explanations for life are as follows: While evolutionary scenarios, as opposed to worked-out theories, exist for hypothesizing how new genera, new orders, and new families of animal life might appear, there is no rational evolutionary scenario for explaining how a new animal phylum might appear. From 50 to 80 percent of the animal phyla known to have existed at any time in Earth’s history appeared within no more than a few million years of one another, as the Cambrian geological era began. Of the 182 animal skeletal designs theoretically permitted by the laws of physics, 146 appear in the Cambrian explosion fossils. The Cambrian explosion marks the first appearance of animals with skeletons, bilateral symmetry, appendages, brains, eyes, and digestive tracts that include mouths and anuses. Virtually every eye design that has ever existed appears simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion. The moment oxygen levels in Earth’s atmosphere and oceans permit the existence of Cambrian animals, they suddenly appear. The Cambrian explosion occurs simultaneously with the drastic change in sea chemistry known as the Great Unconformity. The Cambrian explosion includes the most advanced of the animal phyla, chordates, including vertebrate chordates. Both bottom-dwellers and open ocean swimmers appear simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion. Optimization of the ecological relationships among the Cambrian animals, including predator-prey relationships, occurred without any measurable delay. Jeffrey S. Levinton, “The Cambrian Explosion: How Do We Use the Evidence?,” BioScience 58 (October 2008): 855, doi:10.1641/B580912. Gregory A. Wray, “Rates of Evolution in Developmental Processes,” American Zoologist 32 (February 1992): 131, doi:10.1093/icb/32.1.123. Kevin J. Peterson, Michael R. Dietrich, and Mark A. McPeek, “MicroRNAs and Metazoan Macroevolution: Insights into Canalization, Complexity, and the Cambrian Explosion,” BioEssays 31 (July 2009): 737, doi:10.1002/bies.200900033.
Unlikely, that tentacle is almost as long as the body, there is nowhere for it to retract to without interfering with several internal organs. Still not a bad theory, though.
I love studying the paleozoic era , because of so many interesting and different creatures like this and eurypterids or agnaths , just truly incredible
Tully Monster alongside the anomalocarids are some of my favorite prehistoric animals simply because it shows the biological melting pot this world was back in its early days. Also, you guys should do a video on Dollocaris, which is hands down the weirdest crustacean that ever lived imo.
in my opinion, it honestly just looks like an alien organism that fell into our atmosphere and ended up living in our waters for milleniums until it went extinct, it doesn't even look like a fish or an invertebrate, it looks like something you'd see in a movie, or in space
well yes maybe and prop no. presuming they still have a som body and are not just floating brains. They for one, need to have some form of hands, i mean good luck manipulating materials with a mouth. And they probably not sea creatures, octopuses would be ruling the earth by now if they could start fires under water. they can't and therefore never invented fire. . octopuses would rule the world if they could start fires. And getting from water to space is for sure a lot harder than from land. Also this body type clearly ain't the apex predator, and good brains dont run on plants... they just don't (maybe in a modern world with big frames and supermarkets where you can get plant from all over the world) there for its unlikly and maybe impossible for a advance civilization to start with plant eaters. But hey... life is full of surprises, so maybe im all wrong. XD
It looks kind of like a squid, if the bar organ is a pair of eye-stalks, a long-eyed squid without tentacles but with a snout that sticks out from the body.
Researchers looking at the Tully Monster: What in the world is this creature? It is so weird in so many ways and seems to have been put together with spare parts from other animals. Tully Monster looking at researchers: What in the world is this creature? It is so weird in so many ways and seems to have been put together with spare parts from other animals.
UPDATE: There's now been another paper published that found more evidence in favour of the Tully Monster being a vertebrate, but it's probably not the end to the debate yet. We talked about the new discovery in this episode of 7 Days of Science: th-cam.com/video/WL_tjvSBzdQ/w-d-xo.html
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I really hope the new paper is called 'The Tully Monster is TOO a Vertebrate!'
It's still giving me a squid vibe
This is clearly a creature created in Spore.
Fuck you for stealing my joke, I was just about to say that, and now I can’t because you’re clearly funnier than me.
That makes spore evolution acurtate lol .
I was just about to comment this lmao
it looks like my first cellular creation
@@alexbonilla2041 mood
The almost comical titles of the papers "the tullymonster is a vertibrate" followed by "the tullymonster is not a vertibrate", combined with the bizarreness of the tullymonster itself makes this whole thing seem like a rambling tangent from the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy books.
"the tully monster is a vertebrate"
Tully monster: no u
Uh-oh.
Ah yes. The old "I'm rubber, and you're glue" gambit.
*_"If we had some ham, we could have some ham and eggs, if we had some eggs."_*
~~ Groucho Marx
From this debate, i conclude: It's Ducky from the Spore Cell Stage.
Are you saying it is actually related with the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal?
I'm waiting for the study titled "you dont know what your talking about" and the following study titled "no u"
Classic studies, but surpassed by the seminal paper: 'the author of the study with the incorrect hypothesis says what'.
According to a recent study, anyone who doesn't like this comment is a big poopy head.
"The only invertebrates here are the guys from the previous paper"
allan mallee I love the concept of petty shit talking becoming a norm in scientific journals/articles 😂
blechmann’s seminal paper ‘nuh uh’ refutes that bold claim.
Spinosaurus: lol I've been trolling paleontologists for years about what I really am!
Tully Monster: *_AMATEUR_*
Irritator: welcome to the team!
@@GhaniKeSawah the literal name of this dinosaur irritates paleontologists.
Imo i honestly think this is one of the first squids to have lived on earth, the jaw looks alot like what a squids beak, and the long probuscus it has is what probably turned into their tentacles, just a theory
@@XSL17X I don’t know if they’re related because there isn’t that much evidence of Tully Monster having mollusk ancestry. However I would agree that it has similar morphology to Squid which may be a case of convergent evolution. Something interesting to note though is that Squid eyes and fins are parallel but Tully Monster’s is perpendicular. Something else to consider is that with its eyes on stalks perpendicular to its fins they may result in excess drag while swimming so it may indicate that it can’t swim very quickly.
SURELY 😂
While it isnt related, its body looks like a squid or cuttlefish without the tentacles, the beak and eyes extended, honestly cephalopods are only normal because we grew accustomed to them
Yeah, someone who has never seen a squid seeing a squid for the first time would be so confused LMAO
nope its lamprey if you look at a lamprey and an image of the tully monster you will see why
@@infinitedowns6630 lamprey are jawless, this has jaws. Doubt it.
My first time seeing a squid I thought it was cool but nothing too crazy. My first time seeing this thing and it’s just like what the fuck
I have to agree honestly. I'm you I'm not exactly a rocket surgeon or anything
I adore the Tully Monster. It is just so wierd. We aren't even fully sure which side is the dorsal side yet because it is almost eldritch in its morphology.
Love the way you describe it
Wanted to make a Lovecraft reference and you beat me to it.
This thing could translate extremely well the themes of the unknown and uncertain of cosmic horror
great use of eldritch. rarely get to see it used
its Nyarlathotep isnt it :|
Can't tell which side is which? How very like an octopus. I currently have to favor an early branch off the same group as the octopi, squid, nautiloids, etc. You can almost reproduce the body shape from a cuttle fish if you remove all but one tentacle.
"Is Tullimonstrum a Vertebrate" - the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,
macsporan it is how we grow as intellectoids. without argumentation, we would be as Tullimonstrum, unaware of our own identitieus.
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@@jake-wx8xy yess
Is this true and if so can you send me a link, I want to read it so I can learn something during quarantine.
I second what @@thememeguy2195 said.
The series of scientific papers:
"The Tully monster is a vertebrate"
"The Tully monster is not a vertebrate"
"Yes it is"
"Is not"
"Is so"
"Is not is not is not"
"Is so times one million"
“Is not times infinity”
@@lategamer6684 is so times infinity plus one.
Sir Zorg woah slow down there
just make up a new classification ffs
A Lego Man ? Is there anything other than either? Doesn’t everything fit into vertebrate and invertebrate
I live in a small town called, Morris! it’s the town over from Mazon, i fish and fossil hunt at the mazon creek very frequently! Was great to see my home area highlighted in this video :)
You ever found anything particularly cool?
@@bluedragonfly5145 Oh yes, I have found everything from full fern leaves to whole jelly fish! Maybe one day I’ll find a Tully!
@@KillJoyXx1 wow a jelly fish that’s a stellar find. I hope to go fossil hunting someday can’t do it where I live though.
Yo, shoutout from Morris!
@@thegentlemanfish7504 Morris represent!
I really hope there are tully’s still wandering around in the deep depths of the ocean so that when one is found it confirms its identity as an invertebrate, but ironically raises even more questions as to how it’s survived unchanged and where it’s been all this time
We are
Yeah, I hope they are still rolling down in the deep
If you have not already you should look up “living fossils”. I think you’ll quite enjoy the topic if the question of how it remained unchanged peaks your interest. Just to clarify though you won’t get an answer but rather you’ll find animals that walked/swam with the dinos that are still around relatively unchanged to this day.
@@jedimasterobi-wankenobi7926 this makes Miss Ewe happie
@@tuxido4913 whatchu know bout rollin down in the deep
No matter if vertebrate or invertebrate: It's friend-shaped and I love it
You must have some strange looking friends
@@Corusame non-euclidean especially
@@Corusame hahahaha!!!
So it's not just me who wants to pet this fella? He looks like a super cool fish pet, and as You said, he looks friendly.
@@ZizixxSamurai I'm glad you agree, I still think it's so dorky and fun looking!
Researchers: "Why can't you be normal?!!"
Tully Monster: *_*INCOHERENT SCREECHING_**
I believe the true answer to this mystery wrapped in an enigma with a little conundrum sauce and a dash of cilantro wrapped in a tortilla may be found with a full translation of the 1956 recording of _"Rubber Biscuit,"_ by _"The Chips."_
_(No need to thank me, I'm here to help.)_
@@paradisepipeco thank you for your help, everything makes sense now.
@@mrcakeday1439
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@@paradisepipeco love
@@MissEwe
Namaste. I find your sheepishness quite refreshing in this land of Tully monsters, unicorns and trolls. And I appreciate the new sub, as my old one can barely submerge anymore without leaking. However that is my own fault for not repairing the screen door sooner, but I digress right out the egress and down that long lonesome two lane highway, with my coat collar turned toward the wind, all the way till the break of day.
After all, the blues ain't nothin' but a good soul feelin' bad; and as for me, I might get better, but I'll never get well. Hope to hear from you on the other channel. ONE LOVE.
Namaste
really does look like an early squid of sorts, the beak is just extended, the eyes are in the right place and the overall shape fits. amazing
Yeah, I was thinking the tail fins would look better on the sides like a cuttlefish
I thought the same thing.
Hm I think it's the other way around. Tully is from many million years after the dawn of squids. It looks Cambrian but it's not.
what if the jaw is actually normally tucked in. only when it dies, it loses that muscle tension control and the mouth comes spitting out.
then in natural world...when it is alive it would be beneficial to plop above a spot on the coral reef and stretch this mouth out to "reach" for food.???
@@arielperez797 interesting thought.
As soon as I saw the Tully Monster, I thought to myself "that looks so much like a cephalopod" especially the body plan. It looks very similar to cuttlefish and squid. The (presumed) eye protrusions are unusual, but the actual eye structure itself also looks similar to cephalopod eyes. The proboscis and mouth are certainly the most peculiar-looking elements. Perhaps it is a cephalopod that had an external beak or similar structure?
Fascinating creature. I bet this will have scientists baffled for years to come.
I was thinking the same thing. If it is some distant cephalopod ancestor, then all those live reconstruction images are showing it swimming backwards, and if it did swim with the pointy fin in the front like squids do, the elbow on its proboscis would enable its mouth to face forward.
@@thecianinator Great point, I hadn't considered that.
the real tully monster was the friends we made along the way.
Indeed
And I live by that...
Agreed
Alpharad?
tully monster; the way home
I used to find these all the time when I was a kid living in Morris, IL. It was fun to spend the day at the old strip mine hills and look for the nodules and crack them open with my hammer to see what was inside. There were two other strange soft bodied creatures to be found besides the Tully Monster, the Aitches and the Wyes.
nice!
Cool
Hs & Ys??!
@@TheAuntieBa ...Yes. We used to throw them away before we found out they were actually fossils of soft bodied creatures.
James Ruddy Lol, wish you’d kept ‘em all! Kids - no idea of eons and eons...😉!
Tullimonstrum. Otherwise known as, "Hell if we know", and "Go home, evolution, you're drunk."
Melvin Shine underrated
Its named after Francis Tully who discovered it
R/wooosh
Ronald McKechnie stop
Mother Nature was baked when she came up with this
"so are we any closer to figuring out what the tully monster is?"
Science: well yes, but actually no
Closer in the sense that we are figuring out what it isn't. That is the scientific way.
well, it has a squidlike crown fin and cephalopod eyes, pretty sure it's just a *really* fucked-up squid thing
*_"If we had some ham, we could have some ham and eggs, if we had some eggs."_*
~~ Groucho Marx
Imagine how cool Joseph Tully must have felt discovering this thing.
"oh cool a silly guy"
Scientists: "What are you?"
Tully monster: "idk I'm just vibin"
I swear, the farther you go back in time, the more Earth starts looking like an alien world.
It actually kinda was.
Glowing animals start to seem normal
it is an alien world, the fact that we understand it and know what to expect now doesn't change the fact that every living organism is just odd and weird, we just don't see it that way because we know what to expect when going outside for a walk.
well, we see a bunch of modern animals everyday, these, never.
Well, Bugs used to rule the world before they became tiny, tbh
I thought this was a Cryptid video
IKR. Thats why I am never too skeptic about cryptids.
Magmacube tr same
Magmacube tr also same
It’s shit like this that keeps cryptozoologists’ hope alive.
MastJake-The-Tur same
The thumbnail looks like something from ‘The future is wild’
That documentary was my shit as a kid
I loved that discovery kids show
It looks like something made in spore
Nah, it looks like a starwars motorcycle
It does. I grew up on the series spin off of the documentary
paper posted in Nature:
-Tully monster is vertebrate
Year later:
-Tully monster is NOT a vertebrate
Year later:
-Yes it is vertebrate
Year later:
-No its not
Year later:
-Yes it is.
Year later
-No
-Yes.
-NO
-YES
Akinaro
Nice pfp btw
Why u steal comments
I think its a primitive chordate (vertebrates are chordates but more evolved)
Looks like something made in Spore the game, got retconned into history.
It looks like something i created in spore
Human: Man these squids and octopuses look like aliens
Tully monster: Hold my proboscis...
"Is the tully monster a vertebrate or an invertebrate?"
Yes
“Probably”
Definitely
Chordate?
I would go with Alexagrigorieff. There is no way it is a vertibrate as the vertibral column is absent. Unless cartilage doesn't fossilise as well as bones do?As far as I know, the Notochord rarely fossilises, but of course can be found in the BUrgess Shales which record the earliest member of the CHordate phylum. The Lamphrey quoted is not a Vertibrate. But along with the lancelets , hagfish and Vertibrates we have the phylum of Choradata.
He was vertebralinvertebral
My guess would be that it burried itself up to its eyes (horizontally I think, probably why the need for eyestalks and maybe why the proboscis was elbowed, but also for attack speed) and grabbed little fish and bugs as they swam by. It lived in a delta so it was in shallow brackish water. It could hide by the weeds, as small fish gravitate there anyway, and pluck them as they wandered by and maybe grab small things above water as well.
Or maybe a carion eater, but I don't think so.
Woah look its a person that knows what they are saying
Given its well-developed eyes an ambush predator niche seems plausible.
Plausible....very...VERY.. Plausible, good job
It looks like the tail of a squid. Maybe it was before squids had multiple tentacles and before their mouths were in the middle of their tentacles. Squids have a beak-like mouth, right? I know that looks like a crab claw, but it could have evolved into a single beak. Back then, it only had one tentacle and the mouth was at the tip because it was easier to reach fish like a spear, or to shove it into holes to dig out whatever fish is living in it?
I þought that too
@@aryyancarman705 gneiss.
I'll tell you what it was: lovable.
Ur Gay
Nah, Lovecraftian
I think it's a cephlopod.
@@KK-bk3dm happy pride moth
*tears up * you're so right, youre so so right
I am a simple guy. I choose to call it a one armed squid with a claw.
Well, that's apparently the best guess of science right now too.
@@SpitfiretheCat16 lol
Like the Platypus, I feel the Tully Monster is a creation of The Cosmic Joker.
I didn't know that the platypus feels that the tully monster is a creation of the cosmic joker.
Do not tell me to _"Like the Platypus"._
You're not the boss of me.
@@paradisepipeco are you the platypus?
@@whoeverofhowevermany No, but that was a very good guess, young Jedi.
I am the egg man. We are the egg men. I am the walrus.
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I think you misspelled "Comics".
The things that have lived on this planet blow my mind. Who would swim when there's creatures like that in the water. Edit: I'm curious if it was like the bobbit worm and it sat in wait and used the appendage to catch pray and that's why it has it. I don't imagine it was an effective swimmer and would explain its eyes being out the side, probably had 360 vision to see in coming pray.
That seems like a good theory. Soft tissue really doesn't fossilize well and tullimonstrum could have easily had some sort of "foot" like clams to attach them to the seabed
Great TH-cam channel! Made for people who can deal with controversy, inconclusive evidence, and contradictory theories. You know-scientists!
Really appreciating an inside view of how paleontology works, and the excitement of ongoing research. Thanks, Ben!
The Tully monster is so bizarre that it's so cool
TREY the explainer be like:
*Probably a decomposing owl basking shark*
That also had feathers.....
with reflective eyes
decomposing basking owl
that happens over and over in the same place ? ??? ? lol
Also turns out that it inspired godzilla
The Tully Monster looks like an early squid to me. I remember in the 1960's, there was a book on the Loch Ness Monster by someone whose name I can't remember that had a striking blue tinted cover with the famous "surgeon's photo" enlarged. This author was sure he'd solved the mystery. Nessie was a giant Tully monster!
Wooooah! Imagine that though!
"Great Orm Of Loch Ness" by F W Holiday.
Like Grandpa used to say, _"The early squid catches the worm."_
No . . . wait. Never mind.
Haha was gonna leave a comment about it being the Loch Ness Monster too and you beat me to it. So I’ll compliment your Moomin pfp instead :)
I believe the tully monster was a mollusk.
Look at the squid like tail, the snail like eyes.
I believe the mouth also worked like the eyes, in that it could be retracted giving it more of a torpedo shape when hunting or moving.
I can't prove this of course... because Im poor haha
But mark my words...it's a mollusk.
Yeah, it looks like the proboscis would retract right? It's not articulated like a fucking arm lmfao. It probably worked somewhat like a chameleon tongue? Please tell me we aren't the only ones to think this
It looks like the mouth could be retracted and shoot out in order to quickly grab prey, like shark jaws.
thats what i was thinking, didnt wanna say because im not experienced in things like this
@@GullOuue I get the impression of it being related somewhat to a cuttlefish
Mm... If the proboscis was to retrac there should be some anatomical feature at the eyes' level resembling a chamber or something like that. Or at least a few of the specimens should have be found with the proboscis retracted.
I enjoyed your video. I am the artist who made the yellow colored Tully model in this video. Patrick May
Amazing to think these things lived and died before the first dinosaurs walked the earth. What a fantastic gift to us all fossils are.
@Goku Vegeta I know right? I often think of that. How many entire classifications of creatures we will never even find out about.
Mat Broomfield could creatures have been larger than the dinosaurs and have just not been preserved?
@@carrier2823 It's conceivable giving that in some cases, all we know about an entire classification are a few small fragments of bones that there are entire dinosaurs we havn't discovered, but I don't think it's very likely that there are classifications of animals APART from dinosaurs. They would have had to exist in ways that left absolutely no traces, not even descendants. But never say never.
The largest single life form on earth, is the humongous fungus in Oregon, it's a honey mushroom mycelium mat and basically the floor of an entire forest. I doubt it will leave any noticeable remains in the fossil record, if or when it goes.
Also to consider is if whole fossils are rare and the bigger ones more so, what would be the odds of the biggest fossil ever also being the biggest creature to ever live?
@@amewarashi5770 I take your points Ame. What a loss to us all never to even know taht these creatures existed. Of course, it's worth noting that some of the oldest traces of life on the entire planet were types of seafloor slime... :-)
The group problematica is a well, problematic group. The group is made of organisms that are difficult to track down the evolutionary history on
Some species cannot be tracked because they never evolved and did not servive when extinct entirely it's hard to say if the fossil record ended or is still undiscovered!🤔
@@adamwelch4336 I'm so confused by your comment 🤔
@@lionvonadern ah gotcha, thank you for taking the time to reword that for me
@@the_hanged_clown I was discussing commonality between species vetabra and non vertebrae animals commen genetic ancestors
@@adamwelch4336 um, sure you were
this actually looks like something straight out of someone's spore playthrough, during the aquatic phase
I legit laughed when you kept bringing up conflicting arguments. This thing is like a platypus, it likes to troll tf out of scientists.
Well, we know it’s probably not a plant...
don't
what if
PLEASE dont start that possibility
"The Tully monster is not a vertebrate or invertebrate. It is a fungus."
@@PinkBunnyCorporation
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
It just looks like a squid with one long mouth instead of tentacles, if squids actively hunt pulling food into the beak, then this thing looks like it was shoving its mouth into holes to get something out, clearly if they are eyes whatever it was eating wasn't a threat as much as what maybe around it as it could clearly see all around but not focused on forward looking at wherever it was digging about.
Whatever it is its a wonderful bit of convergence evolution (maybe) a squid with a reversed mouth.
Shoving my mouth into holes has got me into more trouble than you can imagine
@@Corusame God I literally died and went to heaven when I read it😂😂🤣
They're not even sure if it's upside down. 🤣
This is brilliant science communication. Congrats. In an age of growing masses denying science and refusing rationality, this is brilliant. Everything is there - the notion that science is a constant debate, good sources, Simple yet effective explanations. Thank you! Thank you!
I remember the theory about this being a strong candidate for lake monster sightings and it's cousin Tuna casserole
Grandma: your so handsome the ladies must be all over you
Me:
I wish I was this handsome
Nick3xtreme Gaming if u look like a tully monster hmu 👅
@@dickshneeze4566 lmfao Hell Yeah
Shame on all of you. We are all as *_Dog_* made us.
_(And what can you expect, if you were made by a dog? I mean, look at what a dog makes in the back yard, for Dog's sake.)_
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Fun fact: the creek is locally pronounced like "Muh-zon", with the Ma part rhyming with the Mon in Monday, and the end sounding "zon" rhyming with ON like a like switch.
Thank you for covering such a weird and amazing creature!
Indeed, the locals know when somebody is from out of town by the way they pronounce it. Did you go there too?
@@ambulocetusnatans Yeah, without going into to much detail, I've spent a decent amount of time in the area! It's very lovely, and some of the local libraries have tully monster displays last I'd seen!
Can you just imagine having one in an aquarium at home!
Could we maybe scan the cells of the petrified thing and try to write out as much of its DNA and then fill the rest of it out? I mean...
Nature ah, finds ha weigh
@@Nemesis0513 No. DNA can't survive that long.
@@FrikInCasualMode No, you just gotta fill in the holes in the code!
Well, at least I have an answer to THAT question.
"...Acorn worms share some anatomical features with the Tully monster" [pauses and slowly zooms in on the phallic shape of the acorn worm]
Hi Ben! I loooooove your videos i'm such a fan you are so professional you have kept me entertained for hooouuurs. But i have a question for you - have you done any videos on ceratopsians? I had a look but i couldn't find any... if not, would you mind explaining the history of ceratopsian, the usual, what they evolved from, basal and derived ceratopsians? Ooor, you could even do a series! That would be amazing. Thanks, Ajay.
Well, based on what we know it's probably a sister class to cephalopods that retained the characteristics of gastropods such as eyes on stalks, multiple 'siphons' on the side, the radula, but it also seems to have a remnant of an internal shell, a general layout like a cephalopod, and an extended feeding arm.
Which is weird, because this is like looking at a slug squid and that's very odd.
Well that's history for you. Some creatures back in the day just looked hellah weird like new creatures will in a couple million years, if we would be still alive to see that anyways.
@@daquan6213 Yeah, the Opabinia looks like a vacuum cleaner and Wiwaxia is a rock covered in pride flag extract, so anything goes before the Permian.
Scientists: This animal has so many different parts, and distinct body shapes and organs, we really can't categorize it
Me: Haha elephant squid
*messes up hair and assumes pose* "It's ancient aliens."
OMG that is THE best comeback to the Tully Monster. I cant stop laughing 😂 . Look Im a paleobotanist - so not my specialty, but honestly the debate on this topic is EPIC. but has everything to do with the taphonomic processes. Great vid.
@@alexdayde4413 shut up
@@tubeguy4066 about what?
@@alexdayde4413 Nothin, have a good day.
i remember going to mazon creek with cub scouts for a fossil hunt. before we went out, we were shown a slide show in someone’s house. the only thing i remember from that slide show was the tully monster. no one in the group found any tully fossils, but someone did find a leaf fossil.
Tully doesn't want to be categorized, Tully just wants to vibe
It 100% shares one feature with octopodes though: very awkward eating....
Looks like my creature from Spore
squidward really let himself go
I mean it was around before squidward so if anything squidward really came a long way proud of the homie for elevating
you ever reckon aliens are trying to predict what aliens look like to them, and then one day they like discover us and our fossils and theyre just like.
Alien: Bro wtf.
@@ddobermenn " Da fuk, hair only in their head, pelvic zone and armpits?"
Cambrian and precambrian life was so different from now, we can hardly comprehend a lot of it
"Palaeozoic Problematic Animals" is the name of my new band.
Paleozoic problematic proboscis is my new favorite alliteration
That tullymonster is so ugly, your band should only play Schoenberg! ;)
The nature of this creature might have finally been solved 3:30
Looks at time left 6:50
*Doubt*
And then 3 minuts of just silence ͡° ͜ ͡°
I've often imagined what land vertebrates would look like if a Tully Monster-like creature was the basal specimen instead of Tiktaalik.
Fun fact: the Wikipedia article on synapsids includes a picture of Leonid Brezhnev and Richard Nixon in its gallery of creatures, alongside the platypus and Dimetrodon.
The Tully monster is basically if a crab and a cuttlefish got jiggy.
Can you do a video on ducks, and the history of ducks and their ancestors??
Hmm I don't know about that... Sounds like something a duck would say. *squints eye*
@@hiunaut2833 AFLAC!
They’re reptiles so their ancestors are dinosaurs
@@waterbottle8692 They're avians, birdbrain. But yes, still dinosaurs.
Avians are reptiles
Thank you for this video! I am from Chicago, IL and I remember learning about the Tully Monster in my state history class and getting very excited IL had been famous for an unknown fossil! I’m hoping to get to the Amazon Creek this summer
The eyes remind me of snail eyes. The fossils are from when they are extended and would be retracted at other times.
It looks like a creature you'd make in Spore 😂
You could make it with the default parts you have in the game.
The only way I learn anything scientific is by watching ur videos. I learn more by watching these than listening to my science teacher talk for an hour.
This truly unique animal proves that the 'lifeforms' at the beginning of the evolutionary cycle of life; were much more unsettling and differentiated in appearance; in a word; they were the 'true' aliens
No kidding! Compared to what we see in the fossil record, the aliens of cinematic science fiction are lame variations on humans, dogs, and lizards.
@@christosvoskresye they're the overexxgrated interpretations of Convergent Evolution; these prehistoric species are the real deal
@@christosvoskresye It looks like how the word nart-nat sounds
yes, but what's up with the semicolons?
Henka they get u marks in your GCSEs
I like the ideas that not only this is a fish, but a fish closely related to us.
God: "I have purposely designed it wrong, as a joke."
Plot twist: God actually said that to the Tully Monster as they were talking about humans
"I am extinct, leaving me the victor."
It's like the reverse of the "That's a funny trick to play on god" joke from spore
If it is extinct in your way of comprehending the universe it doesn't mean anything really. Maybe we as humans are experiencing the universe backwards, so in God's view Tully Monster is the future of the universe and we are the past.
Abstract Russian there is no “god” buddy
Paleontologists: What are you?
Tully Monster: I'm happy
Paleontologists: No, what species are you?
Tully Monster: I'm a friend
Paleontologists: I meant what's in your genes?
Tully Monster: Joy
The “General Impression of Size and Shape” (as birders say) of the Tully Monster strikes me as that of a cephalopod. That by no means proves anything, but it’s an interesting data point.
It's funny that Tully in North India means drunk
Hence in Hindi Tully monster should be called drunk monster😂😂😂
It can be called that due to its body design as well
Looking at this creature from a purely NON-scientific perspective,
how is this NOT the progenitor, or at least an evolutionary offshoot,
of a cuttlefish, octopus and squid?
It lacks the flared tentacles, instead we see it's proto-beak
and those "teeth" are simply pseudo-teeth projections along the beak.
i can immediately envision the animal drawing in water as it bites, then grasping the food,
squirting the water out of its siphon holes, creating a thrust, increasing the tearing power of the bite,
and also functioning as a means of escaping predators.
i am guessing it is a scavenger, feeding on the carcasses of larger fish.
Fossil record doesn't show evolution(speciation).
The Cambrian explosion refers to the sudden, simultaneous appearance of most of the animal phyla (body plans) that occurred 542-543 million years ago. Ten of the many challenges the Cambrian explosion poses to evolutionary explanations for life are as follows:
While evolutionary scenarios, as opposed to worked-out theories, exist for hypothesizing how new genera, new orders, and new families of animal life might appear, there is no rational evolutionary scenario for explaining how a new animal phylum might appear.
From 50 to 80 percent of the animal phyla known to have existed at any time in Earth’s history appeared within no more than a few million years of one another, as the Cambrian geological era began.
Of the 182 animal skeletal designs theoretically permitted by the laws of physics, 146 appear in the Cambrian explosion fossils.
The Cambrian explosion marks the first appearance of animals with skeletons, bilateral symmetry, appendages, brains, eyes, and digestive tracts that include mouths and anuses.
Virtually every eye design that has ever existed appears simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion.
The moment oxygen levels in Earth’s atmosphere and oceans permit the existence of Cambrian animals, they suddenly appear.
The Cambrian explosion occurs simultaneously with the drastic change in sea chemistry known as the Great Unconformity.
The Cambrian explosion includes the most advanced of the animal phyla, chordates, including vertebrate chordates.
Both bottom-dwellers and open ocean swimmers appear simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion.
Optimization of the ecological relationships among the Cambrian animals, including predator-prey relationships, occurred without any measurable delay.
Jeffrey S. Levinton, “The Cambrian Explosion: How Do We Use the Evidence?,” BioScience 58 (October 2008): 855, doi:10.1641/B580912.
Gregory A. Wray, “Rates of Evolution in Developmental Processes,” American Zoologist 32 (February 1992): 131, doi:10.1093/icb/32.1.123.
Kevin J. Peterson, Michael R. Dietrich, and Mark A. McPeek, “MicroRNAs and Metazoan Macroevolution: Insights into Canalization, Complexity, and the Cambrian Explosion,” BioEssays 31 (July 2009): 737, doi:10.1002/bies.200900033.
splatoon 3 tullyling expansion
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep First, this fossil is not from the Cambrian Period, so your comment isn't even relevant. Second, the so-called "explosion" is merely due to the vast geological time scale. You are thinking of it as a still frame from a movie, but it is more like a chapter of a book. A lot can happen in one chapter.
Why are all of your references more than 10 years old? It's almost like you knew the conclusion you wanted, then went looking for proof. That is not how science is done.
@@ambulocetusnatans No you are incorrect across the board. My comment was relevant and valid OP clearly brought up this species "how is this NOT the progenitor, or at least an evolutionary offshoot,
of a cuttlefish, octopus and squid?"
That is what I addressed. Secondly you are complete incorrect about the Cambrian explosion and it's relevance. Here is one biologists compilation on it which should educate you on the relevance of the subject. But I doubt it since you couldn't even establish the context between my response and OP.
Fossil record doesn't show evolution(speciation).
The Cambrian explosion refers to the sudden, simultaneous appearance of most of the animal phyla (body plans) that occurred 542-543 million years ago. Ten of the many challenges the Cambrian explosion poses to evolutionary explanations for life are as follows:
While evolutionary scenarios, as opposed to worked-out theories, exist for hypothesizing how new genera, new orders, and new families of animal life might appear, there is no rational evolutionary scenario for explaining how a new animal phylum might appear.
From 50 to 80 percent of the animal phyla known to have existed at any time in Earth’s history appeared within no more than a few million years of one another, as the Cambrian geological era began.
Of the 182 animal skeletal designs theoretically permitted by the laws of physics, 146 appear in the Cambrian explosion fossils.
The Cambrian explosion marks the first appearance of animals with skeletons, bilateral symmetry, appendages, brains, eyes, and digestive tracts that include mouths and anuses.
Virtually every eye design that has ever existed appears simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion.
The moment oxygen levels in Earth’s atmosphere and oceans permit the existence of Cambrian animals, they suddenly appear.
The Cambrian explosion occurs simultaneously with the drastic change in sea chemistry known as the Great Unconformity.
The Cambrian explosion includes the most advanced of the animal phyla, chordates, including vertebrate chordates.
Both bottom-dwellers and open ocean swimmers appear simultaneously in the Cambrian explosion.
Optimization of the ecological relationships among the Cambrian animals, including predator-prey relationships, occurred without any measurable delay.
Jeffrey S. Levinton, “The Cambrian Explosion: How Do We Use the Evidence?,” BioScience 58 (October 2008): 855, doi:10.1641/B580912.
Gregory A. Wray, “Rates of Evolution in Developmental Processes,” American Zoologist 32 (February 1992): 131, doi:10.1093/icb/32.1.123.
Kevin J. Peterson, Michael R. Dietrich, and Mark A. McPeek, “MicroRNAs and Metazoan Macroevolution: Insights into Canalization, Complexity, and the Cambrian Explosion,” BioEssays 31 (July 2009): 737, doi:10.1002/bies.200900033.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep You are bearing false witness, and Jesus doesn't like that.
I have the weird theory- what if it's jaws were retractable?
Like the Goblin shark or Slickribbons from the Future is Wild?
Unlikely, that tentacle is almost as long as the body, there is nowhere for it to retract to without interfering with several internal organs. Still not a bad theory, though.
@@Shaun_Jones Why thank you for the feedback!^^
We're going to need a time machine.
when the characters of ‘Heaven’s Design Team’ have a Sake party for 3 whole hours
Me, first time I saw that creature: Nice design of alien, from which book or movie did it came? :D
From a child's drawing? And obviously a child who is really bad at drawing!
yes! when i was a child i thought it was another kid's monster drawing.
Reality have the best aliens, many you won't believe possible before you see them, and even then you still going WTF WHY nature? WHY!
i learn so much every-time you post a vid. thank-you!
Part of me wants the Tully Monster to be better understood, but another part of me likes the mystery of an animal that can't be categorized
I do not know the reason, but I unconditionally love and appreciate the Tullimonstrum's former existance
I wish I could hug one
Everyone asks what was Tully Monster, But never how was Tully Monster. And maybe Tully Monster just need someone to check up on them.
Your Fave is Problematic: The Tully Monster-constantly defies classification.
I love studying the paleozoic era , because of so many interesting and different creatures like this and eurypterids or agnaths , just truly incredible
Tully Monster alongside the anomalocarids are some of my favorite prehistoric animals simply because it shows the biological melting pot this world was back in its early days.
Also, you guys should do a video on Dollocaris, which is hands down the weirdest crustacean that ever lived imo.
I looked it up and YES that's pretty weird looking!
@RKaale 123 Gaah! I just looked it up - what a friggin' HORROR! :O
Wow, i find it cute tbh. Those big eyes are funny, the thing looks like an alien robot.
It is still nowhere as weird compared to many modern parasitic copepods and barnacles.
Looks like everyones first spore creature smashed Link's ocarina
in my opinion, it honestly just looks like an alien organism that fell into our atmosphere and ended up living in our waters for milleniums until it went extinct, it doesn't even look like a fish or an invertebrate, it looks like something you'd see in a movie, or in space
Fossilized lollipops were found next to the Telly Savales monster
That thing holding a lollipop is the best mental image I've seen in a while, thanks. I kinda want to draw that now.
My favourite prehistoric creature. When we meet aliens they're gonna look like that.
well yes maybe and prop no.
presuming they still have a som body and are not just floating brains.
They for one, need to have some form of hands, i mean good luck manipulating materials with a mouth.
And they probably not sea creatures, octopuses would be ruling the earth by now if they could start fires under water. they can't and therefore never invented fire. . octopuses would rule the world if they could start fires.
And getting from water to space is for sure a lot harder than from land.
Also this body type clearly ain't the apex predator, and good brains dont run on plants... they just don't
(maybe in a modern world with big frames and supermarkets where you can get plant from all over the world) there for its unlikly and maybe impossible for a advance civilization to start with plant eaters.
But hey... life is full of surprises, so maybe im all wrong. XD
Freedom Phoenix Goat you didn’t have to go into it
It looks kind of like a squid, if the bar organ is a pair of eye-stalks, a long-eyed squid without tentacles but with a snout that sticks out from the body.
Researchers looking at the Tully Monster: What in the world is this creature? It is so weird in so many ways and seems to have been put together with spare parts from other animals.
Tully Monster looking at researchers: What in the world is this creature? It is so weird in so many ways and seems to have been put together with spare parts from other animals.
What a mesmerizing design!