ichtyosaurs were thought to have gone extinct like 40 million years before the dinosaurs, approximately the same difference in time between us and our weird squirrel-looking ancestors This ichtyosaur didn't even live that far past the other ichtyosaurs, but it's from a weird lineage which is confusing the researchers
Appleby: “well I think it’s from the Triassic.” Other paleontologists: “what are you talking about? We think it’s from the Jurassic” Some pollen guy: “this is obviously from the Cretaceous”
wanna see just how much freedom lucifer and his fallen angels have down here? Look at all of the evolution propaganda, then look at the comments of those same fallen angels in the comment section. Then look at all the institutions, buildings, books etc etc, that back evolution. Here's a fun fact: theres literally, not figuratively, no proof of evolution. Its all based on faith, just a rELiGiOn.
Hang on to this fallen angel. Wanna know if youre talking to the devil (tare, fallen angel, demon, unclean spirit) in disguise when it comes to the Kingdom of God? Here's how to spot em: They use their usual rhetoric, (a) Frame Control. (b) Baseless Assumptions, (c) Strawman Arguments, (d) Random Derogatory word or phrase (e) Sticking their head in the dirt like a perverse ostrich ignoring the obvious. (f) Some random off topic question or statement (aka Frame Control again, they'll make it seem innocent.) (g) Preparing a springboard to bail, or dropping a springboard to bail. They'll say a word or phrase and then high tail it, or that word or statement will give them a chance to high tail it. (h) They'll give you a look, or a couple looks. Wheat wont give you those looks, they're abnormal given whats going on or being discussed. To make it more accurate, it defies the conclusion one would arrive at given all the pieces that are on the table. (i) They'll use arbitrary dogmas to justify their cause or what they're saying. They'll make those arbitrary dogmas the standard of measurement, they'll sometimes do it by playing coy. (j) Reviling accusations. This literally just shows that they all know right from wrong.
And this, its a copy and paste of what I said to u tares before so that the wheat will see it: For any wheat reading this this life is literally just like that movie called the Truman show, in the sole sense that it's all a sham. This life also isn't a test, it's just a force fed hog tied experience. You're under lucifer's dogmas and bondage. Lucifer's dogmas replace actuality with his desired reality, while his bondage is his personal will for your life carried out via direct control. This form of control gives u a false sense of a personal will. This false sense of a personal will has tons of evidence of a lack of an actual will, hence the reason why u can't stop doing certain things or start doing certain things. Just ask the Lord for deliverance from lucifer's dogmas and bondage. And by the Lord I mean the God of the Bible, not the Roman catholic one. That one is lucifer's fraud. I'm talking about the Son of the Most High God, Jesus. You got nothing to lose, because after all, what can an imaginary wizard in the sky actually do? Not one thing. Edit: all false rEliGiOnS and churches all have one thing in common and that's the sinful lifestyle loop. Sin then ask forgiveness to then sin again. And that's because they're under lucifer's dogmas and bondage. There is no Deliverer there, just principalities and fallen angels playing pretend masquerading as people
hold on to this too: Here's a fun fact: luicfer's dogmas and bondage replace your God given physical appearance. He changes the way you look, sound, aptitude, personality, etc etc. The fallen angels in you acting as, through u, for u, replace u. It's seamless integration. This is one of the reasons why when you look in the mirror your appearance changes a lot. You will see different versions of yourself from time to time. None of em are you. If you arent strikingly handsome or drop dead gorgeous, that's not you. They'll give you a physical appearance thats "normal" or "average" thats not it either.
If you have multiple personalities based on who you're around and what you're doing, wearing, saying etc that's just them you're feeling in u. As I said, they act as u, through u, for u, while also interacting with you in the world Edit: 1 soul = 1 personality, not multiple personalities based on what you're exposed to. But, one perfect one, your soul.
I'm amazed the fossil spent years being walked on and wasn't destroyed. It always fascinates me that air breathing animals that heavily modified for aquatic life wouldn't happen again until cetaceans showed up way later.
KPg extinction 66 million years ago. But first amphibious whales around 18-19 million years later. It takes time for life to recover from mass extinctions.
I'm pretty sure that some "crocodiles with dolphin tails and fins" did evolve in the Paleogene? I can't remember what they were called though (and apparently crocodilimorphs with fins and dolphin tails re-evolve every couple hundred million years or so, so there's a lot of species clogging up my google search).
It was lovely to give recognition to the late Robert Appleby. So many hard working individuals have contributed so much over the decades to our knowledge of the fascinating lost world of deep time.
@@cocoanerd17.-. Well yes but at its time it wasn't extinct when it was thought to be. Hence its a fossil "living fossil" at least that was how I interpreted it
You deserve a documentary/docu-series gig from National Geographic or Animal Planet... Your voice is relaxing and far more interesting than most narrators I've heard, always a delight when you post a new vid!
The ichthyosaur was a magnificent creature. I count myself very lucky to live on the jurassic coast. We find plenty of ichthyosaur vertebrae and many people have been lucky enough to find complete or partial specimens. We have started uploading our fossil hunting adventures and hopefully one day we might discover more than a vertebrae. Amazing content 👌 keep them coming
It's humbling to realise how long, and in so many forms of life existed before people. At just a free million years, we've barely scratched the surface of life on Earth.
I found this channel about a week ago, and I've been having so much fun watching these videos and learning new, and or incredibly interesting things. You guys are doing a great job, keep it up!! :)
@@lukejones7164 Except Icthyosaurs seem to have gotten smaller and more streamlined as time went on, whereas ceteceans got bigger and bigger Compare Shastasaurus to Opthalmosaurus vs Basilosaurus to Sperm Whale
@@mariomouse8265 Actually, Ichtyosaurs got bigger too as time went on. In fact, scientists now believe that the largest Reptiles ever were generally Ichtyosaurs (and not Sauropods) because some recently found Ichtyosaur fossils were comparable in size to even the largest Whales.
@@lukejones7164 Were these Late Jurassic or Cretaceous Icthyosaurs and not Triassic or Early Jurassic Icthyosaurs? The largest Icthyosaurs species to my knowledge were animals like Shastasaurus and Shonisaurus, from the late Triassic/Early Jurassic
EdJUber Forgive me if you already know this. Cetaceans once had 4 limbs, hence the evolutionary reason their tails are horizontal!!! Interesting, huh ??
I find it strangely beautiful that one paleontologist dies before finishing his work, so decades later others jump in to finish the study. All working for the glory or scientific study and in a way, it was finished for him
@@DankestDestroyer1098 That isn't the reason for de-extinction being a thing and never will be. That's a horrible argument for bringing back an extinct creature. We can't bring back anything that old anyway, right now we are working on Mammoths and Passenger Pigeons that can still play a vital role in their ecosystems if brought back.
keep up the good work Ben, this chanel was my favorite for years. I know you guy are studying now I hope you still find some time to make these great videos. The 500k video must happen :)
@@KhanMann66 I'm aware, but they never clarified that in their original comment. Temnodontosaurus is not separate from ichthyosaurs so it was worded weirdly
Nothing like seeing another amazing Ben G Thomas video,about the unique, mysterious, & awesome species of Icthyosaurs,and much of Paleontology so that's very awesome,and this story on the "Icthyosaur Out Of Time" was very nice. Also I wish y'all a great day.
Hey, love your channel, been watching it from nearly the beginning. It's great to see how far you've come since then, and I mean that in a good way. Keep up the good work!
I just hope, that in 10 or 20 years from now, someone makes a video about YOU, saying "and this is where it all started"! You do such a fantastic job of presenting science and curent development, yet go so much underrated! Just because most people are stupid right now...
Quite recently found your channel and it has provided many many hours of illuminating entertainment since! As someone approaching 50 that was really into evolution as a child but gradually disconnected from the scientific aspect of it I can't begin to tell you how great it is to have all the new discoveries made since the 1970's brought to light here. Many of the untold questions that sprang to mind when I was younger, are finally answered & I've found new appreciation for many species I overlooked or didn't have enough info on when I was younger. And of course I have to ask - how come there's no feature on that first sporter of deadly jaws in the ocean - DUNKLOSTEUS! This tank-looking scissor-jaw was always a favorite of mine - I just HAVE to put in a humble request for a spotlight on that one! Also, maybe a feature or two on the specific artists that contribute visuals could be a mini-series, if there is enough source material to do a couple vids? Just a thought. :) Thanks again for an absolutely awesome channel & best of luck with all things in the future!
@@bri1085 Also if it's the one I'm thinking of, even the largest estimates put it at the low to mid range for blue whales. So calling it definitively bigger as a species is just flat out tabloid speak.
They likely wouldn't survive too much longer. But it would be neat to have at least one or two or three lineages survive, until they die out and Whales/Dolphins take their place.
You're an amazing content creator. Keep up the great work, i love your videos. They are super interesting and accessible and they make me happy. Thank you so much Ben
Do a. Another speculative Evolution project this time about Earth and animals that live on 70 million years from now at that time it will be ruled by birds
hearing that mules and goats and people were using this fossil as a stepping stone in a dam makes me finally understand: we're all just carefully arranged dirt and dust and minerals. we think of animals as deserving respect, but in 100,000 or a million years, they'll just be chalk dust or flint. they'll be as dead then as they were when the minerals that made their bodies were just for a geologist to study.
Ben I liked the annotation arrow. So often yu talk about elements of a fossil that are not apparent to those of us without training. It's nice to see them clearly pointed out. Perhaps even go mith a more visible pointer colour - red or orange.
Were ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs and Mosasaurs all living in shallow seas habitats? I don't think anyone has ever explained what their habitats were possibly like.
Some Late Jurassic-Early Cretaceous ichthyosaur fossils show deformities consistent with dysbaric osteonecrosis, indicating that they ventured into deep water frequently enough to suffer from decompression sickness.
"They found the bones in Iraq, so naturally they took it to England"(parafrased) I feel like this needs more explanation Is there "National Museeum of Iraq"? Did they not want it??
Was there a National Museum in Iraq back in 1950's? Because the video precisely said that was when the rock was recovered and donated to the museum in London.
Seriously where did this idea of entire clades being outcompeted by newer, “better” clades even come from? Virtually all hypothesized cases are poorly supported yet touted in academia as if they actually happened.
@@swxqt6826 That does NOT mean entire groups of taxa displace other taxa in the same niche to survive. Evolution tends to favour solutions that REDUCE competition (remember, evolution has no foresight), so if a niche is already fully occupied with no room for coexistence it’s rare that another clade will break into that niche and outcompete the original occupiers, even if they could do a better job in that niche.
@@swxqt6826 If a niche is already occupied another clade doesn’t even get the chance to break into that niche, unless there’s enough resources for both clades to have the same niche anyways without either displacing the other. Evolution does NOT have any foresight or end goal. It selects for features that aid IMMEDIATE survival. A clade breaking into an occupied niche because it can evolve to do better in that niche than the clade that currently has that niche does NOT favour immediate survival at the individual level, and is NOT selected for.
@@bkjeong4302 Whatever helps them survive is what they're going to do. As an example, look at the Mosasaur, it arose from a simple monitor lizard on land. It was nowhere near the size and strength of the dinosaurs, so instead of being on land, it jumped into the water and started to become a marine animal, even though fishes like xiphactinus could still easily eat it alive. Which meant they had to stay near the shorelines. Now of course, since they eventually got bigger and bulkier, they started getting into deeper waters and became more and more fit to that environment. Until they were capable of killing a xiphactinus on its own. So yes, they can take a niche from another animal.
News: "science has discovered a fossil of an Ichtheosaur that had survived long after previously thought!" Young Earth Creationists: "I'll mine this... thank you"
Yo, Ben, I don't mean to be rude, I just think that it's better if you keep the slideshow going, without interrupting with your face. You certainly are a handsome devil, but it breaks the flow of the video. Your narration is perfect and combined with images of creatures really sells the cake, if you interrupt it with your mug, it breaks the illusion. Just my 2 cents. Your videos are great as they are, best of luck!
Omg! I was watching this video on the TV and my cat started to watch, then another ichthyosaur came on the screen and he reached and started to paw at the screen! It was soooooo cute! He probably thought they were fishies to play with!
The fact that people in some parts of the world can find a fossil and not only not realize that it's anything important, but then use it as a stepping stone is sad.
I think they did it for opposite reasons. Can you imagine a better place to display the fossil than a well trafficed set of steps? A museum is the obvious choice, but how would a worker from a quarry in Iraq go about that in the 1950s? I think In the same situation with the same resources a wall or set of steps is really the best place to show off that cool rock you found with bones in it.
The bodyplan for this Ichthyosaur is similar to that of a river-dolphin. Just imagine there being _freshwater_ Ichthyosaurs doing their own thing while most of the marine lines died out.
When I saw the title I was expecting the fossil of an Ichthyosaur that had suffered what should have been a fatal attack but ended up recovering and dying from something unrelated later.
It sounds like it was assumed it was earlier because it was archaic and that this was surprising. But there are many 'archaic' species around today that are doing ok. The Platypus and Echidna come to mind. Things don't 'have' to evolve if they are thriving. If it ain't broke...
By the title, I thought this was going to be like the 'Big Al' Allosaurus specimen. Like the Ichthyosaur was found all beat up with broken bones but lived long enough you can see a lot thats healed over.
I love it when the new generations pick up the unfinished work of previous generations.... This has been happening a LOT, specially in geology and botany.
The part of the world where this fossil is found is a fascinating place. There has been so much history, turmoil, and mystery surrounding it. I wonder if it survived in isolation after being cut from it's usual habitat. Say, an older version of the Black Sea?
*Ben:* "The Ichthyosaur that refused to die"
*Me:* "Where is it now?"
*Ben:* "Dead."
It happened 6 Million Years Ago
@@primusvsunicron1 only 6? So it did live longer than the average ichtyosaur
Where is it now? It moved to Loch Ness.
"Refused to", not "refuses to"
@@silvussol8966 nah it was a whale that moved to loch ness.
Jurassic: ends
Malawania: I didn’t hear no bell
"I'm the best, around"
Hello man after man fan
Malawania was just fashionable late.
Lol
“You’re the best arou-ound!”
Dinosaurs : we are going extinct
Icthyosaur: i missed the part where thats my problem
"we?"
@@Jay-ho9io dont take this moment from me bro.
@@TH-cam304s surprised it didn't get more likes
Funny since the last known Ichthyosaurs went extinct way before the Asteroid hit the Earth
ichtyosaurs were thought to have gone extinct like 40 million years before the dinosaurs, approximately the same difference in time between us and our weird squirrel-looking ancestors
This ichtyosaur didn't even live that far past the other ichtyosaurs, but it's from a weird lineage which is confusing the researchers
Appleby: “well I think it’s from the Triassic.”
Other paleontologists: “what are you talking about? We think it’s from the Jurassic”
Some pollen guy: “this is obviously from the Cretaceous”
Me: no, its from the late heavy bombardment
In other news, local Floridian ichthyosaur refuses to go extinct.
Florida ichthyosaur: "THE GOVERNMENT WONT FOSSILIZE ME!"
We keep feeding it jello shots mixed with water from the fountain of youth. He is trashed ALL THE TIME but he hasn't died yet ;D
“If joe Biden wants to fossilize me, HE CAN COME TRY ME”
That's part of the United States in the Americas right? Surely there are no extant Ichthyosaurs.
DeSantis already killed you?@@sirchango2665
It's your right
Local fish lizard too angry to die.
lmao
Rodan? Nevermind, I saw the fish part.
Your profile pic gave me ptsd
Lol
DOOM: Fish
I am really interested with late surviving specimens of the ancient extinct animals, they always look so out of place like a game easter egg!
wanna see just how much freedom lucifer and his fallen angels have down here? Look at all of the evolution propaganda, then look at the comments of those same fallen angels in the comment section. Then look at all the institutions, buildings, books etc etc, that back evolution. Here's a fun fact: theres literally, not figuratively, no proof of evolution. Its all based on faith, just a rELiGiOn.
Hang on to this fallen angel.
Wanna know if youre talking to the devil (tare, fallen angel, demon, unclean spirit) in disguise when it comes to the Kingdom of God?
Here's how to spot em:
They use their usual rhetoric,
(a) Frame Control.
(b) Baseless Assumptions,
(c) Strawman Arguments,
(d) Random Derogatory word or phrase
(e) Sticking their head in the dirt like a perverse ostrich ignoring the obvious.
(f) Some random off topic question or statement (aka Frame Control again, they'll make it seem innocent.)
(g) Preparing a springboard to bail, or dropping a springboard to bail. They'll say a word or phrase and then high tail it, or that word or statement will give them a chance to high tail it.
(h) They'll give you a look, or a couple looks. Wheat wont give you those looks, they're abnormal given whats going on or being discussed. To make it more accurate, it defies the conclusion one would arrive at given all the pieces that are on the table.
(i) They'll use arbitrary dogmas to justify their cause or what they're saying. They'll make those arbitrary dogmas the standard of measurement, they'll sometimes do it by playing coy.
(j) Reviling accusations. This literally just shows that they all know right from wrong.
And this, its a copy and paste of what I said to u tares before so that the wheat will see it:
For any wheat reading this this life is literally just like that movie called the Truman show, in the sole sense that it's all a sham. This life also isn't a test, it's just a force fed hog tied experience.
You're under lucifer's dogmas and bondage.
Lucifer's dogmas replace actuality with his desired reality, while his bondage is his personal will for your life carried out via direct control. This form of control gives u a false sense of a personal will. This false sense of a personal will has tons of evidence of a lack of an actual will, hence the reason why u can't stop doing certain things or start doing certain things.
Just ask the Lord for deliverance from lucifer's dogmas and bondage. And by the Lord I mean the God of the Bible, not the Roman catholic one. That one is lucifer's fraud. I'm talking about the Son of the Most High God, Jesus.
You got nothing to lose, because after all, what can an imaginary wizard in the sky actually do?
Not one thing.
Edit: all false rEliGiOnS and churches all have one thing in common and that's the sinful lifestyle loop. Sin then ask forgiveness to then sin again. And that's because they're under lucifer's dogmas and bondage. There is no Deliverer there, just principalities and fallen angels playing pretend masquerading as people
hold on to this too:
Here's a fun fact: luicfer's dogmas and bondage replace your God given physical appearance. He changes the way you look, sound, aptitude, personality, etc etc. The fallen angels in you acting as, through u, for u, replace u. It's seamless integration. This is one of the reasons why when you look in the mirror your appearance changes a lot. You will see different versions of yourself from time to time. None of em are you. If you arent strikingly handsome or drop dead gorgeous, that's not you. They'll give you a physical appearance thats "normal" or "average" thats not it either.
If you have multiple personalities based on who you're around and what you're doing, wearing, saying etc that's just them you're feeling in u. As I said, they act as u, through u, for u, while also interacting with you in the world
Edit: 1 soul = 1 personality, not multiple personalities based on what you're exposed to. But, one perfect one, your soul.
I'm amazed the fossil spent years being walked on and wasn't destroyed. It always fascinates me that air breathing animals that heavily modified for aquatic life wouldn't happen again until cetaceans showed up way later.
Are sea cows cetaceans?
@@rianantony No, they are sirenians and are thus closer to Elephants than Whales.
KPg extinction 66 million years ago. But first amphibious whales around 18-19 million years later. It takes time for life to recover from mass extinctions.
I'm pretty sure that some "crocodiles with dolphin tails and fins" did evolve in the Paleogene? I can't remember what they were called though (and apparently crocodilimorphs with fins and dolphin tails re-evolve every couple hundred million years or so, so there's a lot of species clogging up my google search).
@@stewartgames6697 nope all fully aquatic crocs were from the cretaceous, none has existed since.
It was lovely to give recognition to the late Robert Appleby. So many hard working individuals have contributed so much over the decades to our knowledge of the fascinating lost world of deep time.
Fascinating example of a prehistoric living fossil and all the more of an example regarding the incompleteness of the fossil record.
A living fossil is an animal assumed to have been extinct but is not. As far as we know all icthyosaurs are extinct
@@cocoanerd17.-. they mean that a member of the lineage lived far longer than expected. They aren’t saying they’re still alive.
@@cocoanerd17.-. Well yes but at its time it wasn't extinct when it was thought to be.
Hence its a fossil "living fossil" at least that was how I interpreted it
@@Dragrath1 Ooooh. Gotcha
For a second, I thought it was an ichthyosaur that made it passed the Cenomanian/Turonian boundary. Guess I was wrong.
That's the coalicanth
I totally saw one. Well, my old roommate did. His other friend.
@@flaparoundfpv8632 It was just a basking shark
@@osmacar5331 no coalaosnnanththrne ain’t no ducking dinosab
@@Shrekfromthehitmovieshrek neither were ichthyosaurs
This Icthyosaur:
'What do we say to the God of Death'
'Not today.'
🤣👍🏽
Mary anning:
Malawania anachronus: "I exist to spite god."
Just like Paulie Shore
@@redflag4035 heeheehee
You deserve a documentary/docu-series gig from National Geographic or Animal Planet... Your voice is relaxing and far more interesting than most narrators I've heard, always a delight when you post a new vid!
It's a delight to hear "scientific terms" spoken with fluid authority & correctly pronounced, too. Thank you very much, Ben G Thomas!
The ichthyosaur was a magnificent creature. I count myself very lucky to live on the jurassic coast. We find plenty of ichthyosaur vertebrae and many people have been lucky enough to find complete or partial specimens. We have started uploading our fossil hunting adventures and hopefully one day we might discover more than a vertebrae. Amazing content 👌 keep them coming
Good stuff mate, hope you find something cool!
There should be a jurassic park for fossil enthusiasts!
Its insane to think this content is free...thanks for the great content Ben!
Refused to go out when it's reign ended and refused to be broken in death whether by water or the weight of man. God speed you magnificent bastard.
It's humbling to realise how long, and in so many forms of life existed before people. At just a free million years, we've barely scratched the surface of life on Earth.
I found this channel about a week ago, and I've been having so much fun watching these videos and learning new, and or incredibly interesting things. You guys are doing a great job, keep it up!! :)
Ichthyosaurs, the original dolphins….
the awesome
The Reptilian counterpart of Cetaceans
@@lukejones7164 Except Icthyosaurs seem to have gotten smaller and more streamlined as time went on, whereas ceteceans got bigger and bigger
Compare Shastasaurus to Opthalmosaurus vs Basilosaurus to Sperm Whale
@@mariomouse8265 Actually, Ichtyosaurs got bigger too as time went on. In fact, scientists now believe that the largest Reptiles ever were generally Ichtyosaurs (and not Sauropods) because some recently found Ichtyosaur fossils were comparable in size to even the largest Whales.
@@lukejones7164 Were these Late Jurassic or Cretaceous Icthyosaurs and not Triassic or Early Jurassic Icthyosaurs? The largest Icthyosaurs species to my knowledge were animals like Shastasaurus and Shonisaurus, from the late Triassic/Early Jurassic
If this Ichthyosaur lived in more fresh or braces water it could be the Ichthyosaur equivalent of one of those river dolphins.
Lizard dolphin literally just not having any of that shit
DOLPHINOSAUR
Ok apple
Very yes
Dolphins are ichthyosaur wannabes that got the tail wrong.
EdJUber
Forgive me if you already know this. Cetaceans once had 4 limbs, hence the evolutionary reason their tails are horizontal!!! Interesting, huh ??
@gaylereid8264 The tail flukes of modern cetaceans didn't evolve from hind limbs. The hind limbs simply disappeared.
I find it strangely beautiful that one paleontologist dies before finishing his work, so decades later others jump in to finish the study. All working for the glory or scientific study and in a way, it was finished for him
man, I wish some of these animals made it, it would have bin horrifyingly amazing
We have some pretty epic animals alive today. None of which aren’t being murdered by humans unfortunately.
Then we might not have had cetaceans
Maybe that's why people are trying to bring back these creatures instead of the ones we're loosing. We just think these are cooler.
@@DankestDestroyer1098 marine reptiles are cooler than cetaceans. Cetaceans look ugly af. Marine reptiles look cool as heck
@@DankestDestroyer1098 That isn't the reason for de-extinction being a thing and never will be. That's a horrible argument for bringing back an extinct creature. We can't bring back anything that old anyway, right now we are working on Mammoths and Passenger Pigeons that can still play a vital role in their ecosystems if brought back.
I wish I could explore the different times in Earth's history. Ancient large high metabolism reptiles fascinate me so much.
I wanna get a time machine so bad
@The Mutt with no Butt Hitler already had a brother.
Great video! I always enjoy learning from you.
"despite it's very basal appearance"
Ichthyosaur: *"If I ain't broke, don't fix me!"*
Do a video about ammonites. It is such important group and we don't see much videos about it.
keep up the good work Ben, this chanel was my favorite for years. I know you guy are studying now I hope you still find some time to make these great videos. The 500k video must happen :)
ichthyosaurs: how are you?
temnodontosaurus: i m you but bigger
ichthyosaurus: and what do you eat?
temnodontosaurus: you
ichthyosaurus: ._.
Temnodontosaurus was an ichthyosaur though. Unless you are including cannibalism with ichthyosaurs?
@@safron2442 yes i m including cannibalism with ichthyosaurs
@@safron2442 Cannibalism is common among reptiles.
@@KhanMann66 I'm aware, but they never clarified that in their original comment. Temnodontosaurus is not separate from ichthyosaurs so it was worded weirdly
every1 haveing a civil discusion of your comment and im just loosing my shit over that "face" ._.
Nothing like seeing another amazing Ben G Thomas video,about the unique, mysterious, & awesome species of Icthyosaurs,and much of Paleontology so that's very awesome,and this story on the "Icthyosaur Out Of Time" was very nice.
Also I wish y'all a great day.
I've always like Ichthyosaurs because of their resemblance to dolphins. They are just so cute.
man i love this channel whenever i bored it’s fun to watch and chill
God: Are you Itchyosaurs dead yet?
Malowania: Yesnt
Hey, love your channel, been watching it from nearly the beginning. It's great to see how far you've come since then, and I mean that in a good way. Keep up the good work!
Ben g Thomas, have you heard of this upcoming series "Dinosauria"?
Ahhh the new video notification I was waiting for!!!
When no ichthyosaurs lived to the end of the dinosaurs:
Impossible,perhaps the archives are incomplete
Wow this channel is great glad it’s still going strong
I just hope, that in 10 or 20 years from now, someone makes a video about YOU, saying "and this is where it all started"!
You do such a fantastic job of presenting science and curent development, yet go so much underrated! Just because most people are stupid right now...
Quite recently found your channel and it has provided many many hours of illuminating entertainment since! As someone approaching 50 that was really into evolution as a child but gradually disconnected from the scientific aspect of it I can't begin to tell you how great it is to have all the new discoveries made since the 1970's brought to light here. Many of the untold questions that sprang to mind when I was younger, are finally answered & I've found new appreciation for many species I overlooked or didn't have enough info on when I was younger.
And of course I have to ask - how come there's no feature on that first sporter of deadly jaws in the ocean - DUNKLOSTEUS! This tank-looking scissor-jaw was always a favorite of mine - I just HAVE to put in a humble request for a spotlight on that one! Also, maybe a feature or two on the specific artists that contribute visuals could be a mini-series, if there is enough source material to do a couple vids? Just a thought. :)
Thanks again for an absolutely awesome channel & best of luck with all things in the future!
Can you do more Wallace 2 ? Please 🥺
Interesting suggestion that they could survive in lagoons away from open seas. Reminds me somewhat of some of the suggestions behind Nessie.
Imagine everyday walking across the same rock without realising it's a fossil
awesome video, you earned my subscription!
Imagine if ichthyosaurs actually managed to survive to the KT extinct that would be cool.
they might have gotten bigger than blue whales
@@lost-Eclipse there was an ichthyosaur in the age of dinosaurs that was bigger than blue whales. Theu found the fossils in england
@@trvth1s bit disingenuous that, since we can only go rough estimates from very fragmentary gossip remains
@@bri1085 Also if it's the one I'm thinking of, even the largest estimates put it at the low to mid range for blue whales. So calling it definitively bigger as a species is just flat out tabloid speak.
They likely wouldn't survive too much longer. But it would be neat to have at least one or two or three lineages survive, until they die out and Whales/Dolphins take their place.
Lovely video! Fascinating information. Thank you for making and publishing this content!
it's amazing how reptiles evolved into looking like dolphins or is it dolphins that evolved into looking like Ichthyosaur?
Both evolved into looking like fish.
Thank you so much 😊 what a wonderful episode
Hey Ben, what do you think of the new All Tomorrows fandom since it's kinda big now?
You're an amazing content creator. Keep up the great work, i love your videos. They are super interesting and accessible and they make me happy. Thank you so much Ben
Do a. Another speculative Evolution project this time about Earth and animals that live on 70 million years from now at that time it will be ruled by birds
Why not other clades of tetrapods? Like some megafaunal niches also being filled by squamates and mammals.
There is a video about it in curious archives's channel
@@ronanparis3511 I believe until 65 million years in the future is the age of mammals 65
To 80 million years in the future
Is the age of birds
It could.
If you want an epic bit of bird evolution, go check out the Serina project!
Didn't know this - thank's a lot for uploading this well made video!
ichthyosaurus: what are you
temnodontosaurus: i m you but bigger
ichthyosaurus: and what do you eat
temnodontosaurus: i eat you
ichthyosaurus: ._.
hearing that mules and goats and people were using this fossil as a stepping stone in a dam makes me finally understand: we're all just carefully arranged dirt and dust and minerals. we think of animals as deserving respect, but in 100,000 or a million years, they'll just be chalk dust or flint. they'll be as dead then as they were when the minerals that made their bodies were just for a geologist to study.
If they were alive today we would probably call them dolphins
We'd probably call them "false dolphins" as we've done with other lookalike animals like false crabs and false wasps.
What about the difference in tail?
@@ChrissieBear there would be no dolphins and possibly orcas, because they would simply fill their niche instead
@@thespecter6416 Dolphins would outcompete them most likely
@@MMO10216 Yeah, I realized it when I looked into the intellectual difference deeper between those species.
Ben I liked the annotation arrow. So often yu talk about elements of a fossil that are not apparent to those of us without training. It's nice to see them clearly pointed out. Perhaps even go mith a more visible pointer colour - red or orange.
Were ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs and Mosasaurs all living in shallow seas habitats? I don't think anyone has ever explained what their habitats were possibly like.
Short answer, no.
Like modern whales and Dolphins, these aquatic reptiles were adapted for a wide range of habitat.
Some Late Jurassic-Early Cretaceous ichthyosaur fossils show deformities consistent with dysbaric osteonecrosis, indicating that they ventured into deep water frequently enough to suffer from decompression sickness.
Ichthyosaurs are my favourite and have been for quit a while, good to get an info video on them :D
"They found the bones in Iraq, so naturally they took it to England"(parafrased)
I feel like this needs more explanation
Is there "National Museeum of Iraq"? Did they not want it??
Was there a National Museum in Iraq back in 1950's? Because the video precisely said that was when the rock was recovered and donated to the museum in London.
@@venn2001ad Also if only one guy was working on ichthyosaurs, then what's weird about the fossil going to his location?
England once again stealing shit that doesn't belong to them, no surprises here.
@@venn2001ad Actually, there was. It's been around for almost a century now: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Museum
@@venn2001ad Yes, there was.
Amazing work Ben!
Seriously where did this idea of entire clades being outcompeted by newer, “better” clades even come from? Virtually all hypothesized cases are poorly supported yet touted in academia as if they actually happened.
Creatures evolve and survive to reproduce more, so they're better clades, it's really basic.
@@swxqt6826 That does NOT mean entire groups of taxa displace other taxa in the same niche to survive. Evolution tends to favour solutions that REDUCE competition (remember, evolution has no foresight), so if a niche is already fully occupied with no room for coexistence it’s rare that another clade will break into that niche and outcompete the original occupiers, even if they could do a better job in that niche.
@@bkjeong4302 If clades do better than other clades, they take the niche. Or if they weren't able to survive anywhere else.
@@swxqt6826 If a niche is already occupied another clade doesn’t even get the chance to break into that niche, unless there’s enough resources for both clades to have the same niche anyways without either displacing the other.
Evolution does NOT have any foresight or end goal. It selects for features that aid IMMEDIATE survival. A clade breaking into an occupied niche because it can evolve to do better in that niche than the clade that currently has that niche does NOT favour immediate survival at the individual level, and is NOT selected for.
@@bkjeong4302 Whatever helps them survive is what they're going to do.
As an example, look at the Mosasaur, it arose from a simple monitor lizard on land. It was nowhere near the size and strength of the dinosaurs, so instead of being on land, it jumped into the water and started to become a marine animal, even though fishes like xiphactinus could still easily eat it alive. Which meant they had to stay near the shorelines. Now of course, since they eventually got bigger and bulkier, they started getting into deeper waters and became more and more fit to that environment. Until they were capable of killing a xiphactinus on its own.
So yes, they can take a niche from another animal.
Two thumbs up on this video. Great work.
News: "science has discovered a fossil of an Ichtheosaur that had survived long after previously thought!"
Young Earth Creationists: "I'll mine this... thank you"
Yo, Ben, I don't mean to be rude, I just think that it's better if you keep the slideshow going, without interrupting with your face. You certainly are a handsome devil, but it breaks the flow of the video. Your narration is perfect and combined with images of creatures really sells the cake, if you interrupt it with your mug, it breaks the illusion. Just my 2 cents. Your videos are great as they are, best of luck!
Keep the great work👍
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Omg! I was watching this video on the TV and my cat started to watch, then another ichthyosaur came on the screen and he reached and started to paw at the screen! It was soooooo cute! He probably thought they were fishies to play with!
Really enjoy your content.
The fact that people in some parts of the world can find a fossil and not only not realize that it's anything important, but then use it as a stepping stone is sad.
I think they did it for opposite reasons. Can you imagine a better place to display the fossil than a well trafficed set of steps? A museum is the obvious choice, but how would a worker from a quarry in Iraq go about that in the 1950s? I think In the same situation with the same resources a wall or set of steps is really the best place to show off that cool rock you found with bones in it.
The bodyplan for this Ichthyosaur is similar to that of a river-dolphin.
Just imagine there being _freshwater_ Ichthyosaurs doing their own thing while most of the marine lines died out.
A gap in the fossil record of 70 million years... that'd be like finding a T rex that died 3 million years from now
2:06 Is that drawing coloured by the author of All Tomorrows? Because that's neat if it is the same CM Kosemen.
It is.
When I saw the title I was expecting the fossil of an Ichthyosaur that had suffered what should have been a fatal attack but ended up recovering and dying from something unrelated later.
I love ancient prehistoric and all animals
I saw the thumbnail and came for Out of Touch Thursday
Stayed for cool fish facts
6:02 after all tomorrows, I start to see Kosemen everywhere in any paleontological and scientific stuff
The Ichthyosaur that refused to die... I always love an underdog story...
Let's be real tho,
Of Ichthyosaurs had survived to today, they still would have either gone extinct or critically endangered to over hunting
Well presented 😊👍
I was thinking this would be a video about an amazing species of ichthyosaur that survived into the Cenozoic
Your jawline is so chiseled it makes me think it would be hard to open your mouth. Mr. Jawline, King Jaw.
You could cut diamonds with that jaw
It sounds like it was assumed it was earlier because it was archaic and that this was surprising. But there are many 'archaic' species around today that are doing ok. The Platypus and Echidna come to mind.
Things don't 'have' to evolve if they are thriving. If it ain't broke...
4:26 I forget that cm kösemen is an actual scientific illustrator
The Ichthyosaurus Was Faster Sea Dinosaurs Before The Dolphins
😱👍🔥🔥🔥
By the title, I thought this was going to be like the 'Big Al' Allosaurus specimen. Like the
Ichthyosaur was found all beat up with broken bones but lived long enough you can see a lot thats healed over.
Do something about the therizenosaur next :)
I gained daily knowledge from you
Chuck nores but prehistoric !!!! Kinda cool that they survived longer sadly not till 2021 its sad 😥😥😥
I love it when the new generations pick up the unfinished work of previous generations.... This has been happening a LOT, specially in geology and botany.
Another informative video. I had thought that all ichthyosaurs died out before the end of the Jurassic. I stand corrected.
The part of the world where this fossil is found is a fascinating place. There has been so much history, turmoil, and mystery surrounding it. I wonder if it survived in isolation after being cut from it's usual habitat. Say, an older version of the Black Sea?
Malawania came from the kurdish word =malawan which means the swimmer 💡
jurassic world will love to bring ichthyosaurs back to life
What if a bone is to big to fit in in of dirt of can you tell the age or a bone that died in the triassic but was dug up in the cretaceous
Very interesting video.
Damn, when I saw the title. I thought they found a living ichthyosaur
Will there be some ichthyosaurs fossils reexamined and moved out of Ophthalmosaueidae now?
Question: What company made that Thresher Shark on the dresser behind you?