Helluva boss season 3 is in production and will have 4 seasons in total and hazbin hotel was already planned out for its 3 seasons so if probably in the next one or two years she’ll get back to zoophobia when she figures out how she wants to continue the series
Me and Viv have the same problem. To many ideas for shows, and OCs. Also, I do feel bad for Viv because she was a cringy kid just trying to firgure things out. She even tried her best to explain that she was cringy and regrets it all.
Same. Fortunately, it means I won't ever run out of ideas. I store my ideas & had been deciding which ones to focus on more & finish first so that none of them will end up ignored & unfinished.
Fun fact: Alastor was originally a cannibalistic deer in Zoophobia, but later was changed to be a character in Hazbin. I don’t know why, but I theorize it has something to do with Zoophobia’s abandonment.
IIrc (from their wiki pages) Alastor, Angel, Husk, and a few other Hazbin characters were going to be part of this huge demon arc for Zoophobia since Hell was part of the Zoophobia lore, and as we can see now, those characters now became their own thing. It's kind of funny that Hazbin Hotel was kind of the spin-off from Zoophobia, and likewise Helluva Boss is technically a spin-off from Hazbin Hotel.
Charlie was in it too, she had a hotel for demons to reside in, although I don't think it was for redemption. She wasn't even the daughter of Lucifer, just a Sinner.
@@midnights2631 Basically her whole life has been one big "I'm workshopping it" and the only reason we are getting Hazbin Hotel is because she managed to get just enough popularity that someone took hold of the ADHD creator paradox she was putting herself in, and steered it into a direction rather than doing donuts in a hell parkinglot for eternity. lulz
I loved zoophobia. I was checking the website for updates for years after it stopped in 2014. I onky stopped because Helluva and Hazbin became bigger projects and i realized Viv is probably too occupied with them to go back making Zoophobia.
Zoophobia is how i was introduced to Vivziepop. I remember waiting impatiently for a new page to come out. Those were good times. I really do hope Zoophobia gets more content.
I always had my personal throry related to Zoophobia's "Abandonment." that was mainly relating to the stylistic conistency of the world, and the overall popularity of Hazbin/Helluva overtaking the series. Working on a simultaneous third project would be borderline impossible to maintain when you're animating, and its hard enough when youre already doing two. Right now, its best she leaves Zoophobia alone, until she's allowed time for the current shows to finish up and release without one affecting the other.
I think people need to let artists let their old projects die if that’s what the artist wants. It’s hard to go backwards as an artist. I think Zoophobia lives on in Hazbin and Helluva and we should just appreciate that it was building block for what Viv is working on now.
Seriously, as an artist, my younger projects are for a younger self, they're a sketchbook for my future. I chose to share them with people, but I have no obligation to stay in my very first sandbox forever! If I have bigger and better things, I say thank you to an old project for what it taught me, and move on. Maybe I'd take some chunks with me, but it's really just a testing ground for what I can do, and learning who I am before I lean into something with better foundations. Having people enjoy it is amazing, but extremely unexpected if I'm making something to stretch my wings out and try something new. In the end, it's a kid who tried to make something cool with their talent and ideas. They succeeded, and got famous for it! But it's still just a kid who made something cool that they love, but it wasn't supposed to be forever. Baby's First Project never survives impact with an audience for the first time. Having an audience that immediately critiques something as if it was professional quality and done by an adult with a studio is *awful* for a burgeoning artist just testing the waters on their powers for the first time. Especially if folks got pissed about it, and made it feel awful to involve oneself in. Walking away is exactly what she should have done. People poisoned the well by treating a kid so harshly for just playing around. It's like some kid playing on a piano at the mall to see what it sounds like, managing to play something nice, and getting critiqued as if they were an actual composer with training. Gross. ... I still wanna go back and redo my old stuff anyways. That'll always haunt me, even if I never do it. That's just an artist's curse of seeing the potential that never was (yet), haha. What else do you think we're fueled by? Pixies?
@@Uragani ya same here. I’m an illustrator and I just can’t stand people asking me about my older projects. Especially currently after the pandemic and not finishing Art school in my last year. I’m in that weird limbo state looking for a new style or project. To me I’m exploring and figuring things out but to others it’s always,” what happened to your old style?”
If we're fans of zoophobia, we have the freedom to express it. Also YOU'RE not the authority. And saying something like this isn't going to convince us otherwise, it's forceful and you give no good reasons. Sounds like you are just annoyed.
People tend to forget that this is the author's work. Sometimes, people grow out of their creations and want to move on. Especially when extreme criticism is thrown at you, and it's definitely has more of an impact when you're young. So people are now just pushing vizzie more, which will definitely cause her to drop the project all together due to stress and overload. I am in several dead fandoms where the work has been inactive for almost 5+ years. It sucks and we all wish the creator would come back, but it's their work, and we need to respect it. Maybe someday it will come back, but don't get your hopes up. Just be happy that you experienced it and just support Vizzie's other projects.
Based opinion 😩👌 i think that it’s always easy to expect others to provide everlasting dedication to work at their old passion projects… not every creator has the perseverance that their fans expect from them, it’s* normal to leave things behind, even though it’s sad. Call it bittersweet.
Just working on 2 shows in and of itself is TREMENDOUS stress, and when you have been doing a project for years, and then you start to spin off stuff into it's own project and THAT blows up... I mean there's a chance that she's still passionate about Zoophilia, but due to Zootopia being a thing, and what she was able to do with Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel she's probably trying not to screw those up. I'm not saying that she's still on board with Zoophobia, I'm just saying that if she were to be, or in an alternative reality where she is, it's possible that she's passionate, but has to sit down and say "What exactly is it that I want out of this, and how is it that I'm gonna make this into what it deserves to be." Sometimes you have to take steps back, and doing 2 t.v.. shows simultaneously is a lot for any one to do. There are some people that do have the ability to simultaneously craft several stories at the same time, while compartmentalizing it, but this was basically her training ground. She created all of her ideas in this world and made it too big for her to manage. So by spinning off the various concepts, she can still give those creative ideas their own breathing space, but at the same time figure out what she wants Zootopia to be in and of itself and if it connects back to the other series or not. This stuff I'm saying could all be incorrect, but I feel like it's another interpretation of events. The other controversies and stuff wouldn't help with any of that. Expecting someone to flesh out 3 shows all at one time is kinda insanity. Especially if you want each of them to be cohesive. I don't think she has the capacity as a writer to do all the projects at once. It's a rare thing some people can do if they actually want to produce quality content and when she was creating the stuff, she really didn't have any chops, hadn't worked anywhere or with anyone. This is all speculation on my part. People can only handle so much, and some people can handle more than others, but I think Vivzie is at her limit with 2 shows. Maybe even with 1 show. Sometimes I look at Hazbin and I go "What are we doing with this episode exactly?" and it just feels off and wrong and I think that is part of her reaching her limits. Maybe I'm projecting myself onto Vivzie. I think 2 shows at a time is too much for Vivzie. 1.5 might be her limit, and she's doing 2, and if she was given 1,000 bitcoin she'd be trying to do 8. I say 1.5 because if she was creating the groundwork for 1, and then while that was in production created the groundwork for a second show, and then could alternate every so often, it wouldn't be working on 2 projects at a time. It'd be working on 1 really, and one sort of getting fleshed out and then she could focus on that one while the other one is in production and alternate. She lacks focus IMO. That's always been her problem. From everything I'm hearing about her in the comments and on this video her problem is that she wants all of her ideas to live all at once, and she doesn't know how to give them breathing room. Her shortcut to this is taking stuff from Zoophobia, spinning them off into their own shows, so that she can give focus to zoophobia. But since she's creating both shows at once, she's not able to really create the shows she could be doing if she was doing 1 hard, while preparing the next and alternating them.
@@mewmew1026 IDK can't really gauge context via text. Were you saying she "literally" drew that or you were just quoting the people who were saying that?
@@mewmew1026 1. She was 19 2. The snakes in question were serpians, aka shapeshifters capable of turning into snakes (that was the inside joke) It was 10+ years ago, she doesn't condone it anymore, grow up.
the amount of harsh judgement and hatred the short gets is aggravating. yes, critique is fine, but all ive seen in a lot of videos regarding it are just people bashing it down. it doesnt have to be a masterpiece, and even with that said, its still very enjoyable to watch, regardless of its flaws. this is an indie animation, and it made the team happy to create, it was a part of vivziepops dream. i honestly enjoy the short a lot, and so many people do, and that means a lot to viv you guys care :)
(this isnt to say i think youre bad if you dislike the short or hate it even, im talking about those who are outward with their negative opinions and dont care about hurting the teams feelings by bashing on their work)
Call me weird or quirky, but I actually really enjoyed the zoophobia short animation and her comic, as I thought it was a cool concept!! I'm hoping to see more one day if vivz does decide to continue it
I’ve been following Vivziepop since I was 16. Like many it was the Die Young music video. Though I didn’t read the comic. I loved her speedpaint videos of her characters. I hope some forms of Zoophobia come out in the near future. But right now, I’m still patiently awaiting for more Helluva Boss episodes and for the first official episode of Hazbin Hotel.
its funny cause i knew Viv from tumblr during the time zoophobia was being released though it frustrates me cause I enjoyed her work for what it was and was just happy to see her getting something rolling. I understand as a fellow artist, sometimes we just lose heart for projects even if we have fond memories of them. and that's totally okay. She's doing what she can and mistakes happen. There's also the issue of she clearly has a dark sense of humor which can lead to others finding quick reason to jump at being angry with her. Hell I'm surprised Helluva gets away with some of the shit it does ngl. Then again maybe I'm too understanding cause she's too relatable for me who knows.
I personally think Vivzie has a lot on her plate right now (helluva boss and hazbin hotel) so I think its not a.matter of her wanting or not to expand on the Zoophobia idea but her and her team having limits. Also its kina normal for creators to have small side projects they work on as a form of relaxation and fun while they are working on a big project.
Bad Luck Jack could be the pilot for a future series on the sidelines.....hope she releases another short! Id like for her to resume some story arcs that dont involve the angels and her hazbin characters....like i love to see Cameron in her life as a counselor in the Vivzieverse!
"Anti-Vivziepop" Should tell you just about everything you need to know about this person's intentions. The internet is full of the fucking weirdest people...
Viv was creating content that spoke to her heart, and once it no longer sparked joy she did what all artists do. We find something new, something inspiring. The fandom watched the entire process of that for Viv, and when she started to shift to something she enjoyed more people got salty that the thing they liked was not in her interest anymore. And now that Hazbin/Helluva is succeeding, the hatred for the Zoophobia content in her feed has probably tainted it for her. Nobody likes working on something that feels tainted in their hearts, and honestly, I don't think there will be a satisfying way to end ZP at this point.
I found viv through Zoophobia and have been glued to her content since, but I understand where shes coming from with the series. I also have plucked characters from my stories and put them in their own/ side character them so they better fit so they get the love they all deserve. I hope one day we get to see either more Zoophobia comics or another animated short. But with two other shows in the works i can see how thats a big chaotic management jumble. Id personally like to see more Zoophobia when shes not overly busy with other projects. Only time will tell what we as an audience will see next from her!
I wasn't into Zoophobia and found Viv through Hazbin when the pilot launched and I wasn't that interested in her original works. I tried reading Zoophibia but it bored me so I gave up until around a year ago I found comic dubs of it and watched them. The story is really good and the visuals are amazing, it had so much potential and I wish she would've kept working on it even though the Hazbin plot got turned into a whole new project. She could've even kept the hell plot in Zoophobia and have it be a different universe type of thing. I can understand why she cancelled it though because it was her first ever project and obviously like you said, she was inexperienced back then. Especially with all the criticism she got from it, it's probably put a bad taste in her mouth and honestly Zoophobia is probably connected to bad memories for her. I don't think we're ever going to see Zoophobia again because once she made Hazbin and saw the potential in that, she decided it was a better investment than Zoophobia.
This was a very informative video! Seeing the history makes me wish I got interested in Viv’s projects years before I actually did. That way I would have been able to see more of her journey as an artist. I also pray not all hope is lost for Zoophobia. JayJay is one of my favorite fictional characters (as my pfp indicates, lol) so it would be great to see her make a return! You always make such informative videos Ayy! I really appreciate you trawling through all the old history and brining it to us!
Guys just remember that viv is working on TWO SHOWS.. and I think it would affect the other shows if she does three. Not to mention she already seems like she gets burnt out a lot, so let's not make it worse. She might work on it when she is done with hazbin hotel or helluva boss, but I think it would be best if she just leaves it.. for the sake of her own mental health
Hmmmm its a shame Zoophobia is abandoned ever since the webcomic in 2012 and the animated short which is Bad Luck Jack, but it's okay. I know how hardworking Viv is with her projects especially with Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss.
For Someone Who Only Goes To Vivzie's Channel To Watch Both Hazbin Hotel Or Helluva Boss Man I Feel So Sorry For Viv To Deal With Some Many Issues For Zoophobia
Oh my god the mention of her first channel gave me such a wave of nostalgia. I watched like all of those videos and read the comics. I miss Zoophobia a lot but I understand why she is leaving it alone rn
I really feel for viv. It feels like no one can be pleased with any fate for Zoophobia. Vivs fame is a real strange sad case. I can only hope she is able to feel love and support for the great strides she’s making in the indie animation community
I think they didn't abandon it, it was just a short that they came up with at some point when they were developing characters, they've been busy with helluva boss for a long time and with happy hotel for more, if they plan to follow it they have it as a future project or maybe as a project that they already have polished and it's a surprise
Zoophobia has a special place in my heart. I was introduced with the Bad Luck Jack short and hyperfixated on it for a while. The comic was so beautiful and so many depths to the lore and characters. I think Viv will keep her promise of rebooting it one day and I'll be waiting!
I understand where she's coming from. She improved herself and her arts throughout these years. So when she looked back and saw so many flaws in her designs while also seeing how far she has come, she cannot helped but feeling like her first work is sort of a failure from certain perspective. Sure, it was a big hit and the people liked it and they still do but in her eyes, it was her flawed starting point.
yeah it’s like the first wonky pancake. Sure that pancake probably tasted good but the next ones will be prettier and smoother around the edges and taste just as nice.
The thing with Zootopia is really funny because it's called Zootroplis or Zoomania in some countries, so Viv really didn't need to worry about its name being close to Zoophobia.
I won't be surprised if the reason she dropped it was she was simply too busy. Her having disconnect makes a lot of sense as time plus burn out is very much a thing. I can understand fans would be upset but people can be really entitled sometimes.
Hopefully after Hazbin and Helluva boss series is finished and they released hazbin hotel, i just hope the writing isn't actually bullshit but with great pacing and more i just hope it's a better version of hazbin hotel and helluva boss combined.
The problem is, she can only work on so many shows at once. And currently has TWO shows in the works. And there is a reason why we keep getting HELLUVA BOSS episodes but Hazbin hotel has been on hold for a while. There is no way Zoophobia is getting done while she’s got either projects going. We may see it return after she’s finished Helluva boss and has more time to work on other things. But we probably won’t see a show or more comics coming out until Hazbin Hotel is fully finished.
I see Zoophobia as Vivzies prototype. It was awesome and I'm sure it helped her learn a lot of new stuff too. The preojects after Zoophobia get to be even better, thanks to it.
I’ve repeatedly mentioned this before, but despite the indefinite hiatus, Zoophobia will lived on to those who read the original webcomic. Even if some of the ideas were passed to Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Who knows, maybe one day someone will buy the rights to Zoophobia and make a proper adaptation of the webcomic.
I hope Zoophobia gets her series made since it's so good. Maybe after she's finishes her other projects, she'll get back to this. I love Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Zoophobia will be great series to watch once she gets back to it.
When i watched the short film, i had NO idea this had a story with comics, even being part of Hazbin oriogionally. I loved the short, it was intentionally cheezy and had good poppy songs. But i tottaly get that people were probably expecting somethjng less for kids and more dark and Hazbin/helluva like. I liked it being unaware of the orional premises, i may not of if i was aware of its past storys and dark plots/being aware this was a different tone and plot.
I think the reason why Viz gave up on Zoophobia is because she has no idea on what to do with it and that she has all she can do to maintain Helluvaboss and Hazbin Hotel.
I don't even know why these are needed to be discussed in videos. It's simple, a person made a comic. They lost inspiration and moved to another project. Simple as that. I also find it always hilarios that people point at her early "cringy" nsfw topics while they hype people in hazbin and helluva who do one crime after another, mass murder, killing kids etc. it's just a bunch of hypocrites xD My issue is that people treat Viv in a bad light as if she would be the "outstanding artist who does it all for the first time in history" while ALL other artists are like this. Growing up through the decades almost all artists had cringy art back then on deviantart where ages never mattered, many big comics that got super popular (I immidiately think of TC-96 or the Off White comic) got abandoned with old projects to either focus on another fandom or move on to real life etc. It's nothing new and nothing worth discussing.
Maybe Im just biased since I got into vivziepop like 10 years ago but Zoophobia was the story that I always really and truely wanted to see fully fledged out. I dont hate Hazbin (i dont particularly like it either) but I always found the character designs and environments in Zootophobia more appealing personally. Despite that, as an artist myself I can understand why she wouldn't continue it since I sure as hell wouldnt wanna pick up the comic I tried making as a teen.
Honestly, I do hope Zoophobia gets revived soon. I really like the art style and scenery of it and find its more mellow vibes and brighter, more cool and diverse colors and nice and refreshing break from the very gritty, grimy, edgy, angular, industrial, Black and Neon vaguely apocalyptic vibe Hazbin and Helluva have.
I think she is doing the best thing possible for her brand. Putting zoophobia on hold and focusing on other things that she is more inspired by. She has admitted that she made many mistakes with the writing for zoophobia so when she comes back to it I imagine she will do a complete reworking of it and reimagining of the characters and story with the same general idea for the plot.
We all did horrible stuff as kids and young adults. Our brains aren’t even fully developed until our late twenties. I’m not a fan but I don’t hold any hate. It’s disappointing but y’all forget how Wild West the internet was until 2020 when everyone couldn’t touch grass.
Discovered Zoophobia (Bad Luck Jack), as a Zootopia fan, never having heard of Vivzie, and enjoyed the short. I have gone on to enjoy HelluvaBoss and the trailers for HasbinHotel, but still wait for a return of Zoophobia. Looks like I better not hold my breath.
Zoophobia was the only show I looked forward to with her. I watched the Hazbin stuff up until it released and i never disliked it but I just wanted Zoophobia. It would be so awesome if she came back to it in some way, maybe just a long form video mini show thing. But i doubt it and that's fine. I dont necessarily like most of Vivzie's actions and beliefs now too so I cant say I'm strong about this remark.
If you're looking for more content to do while waiting for the next hellaverse project, I think it would be interesting if you just did a full deep-dive review of the zoophobia comic I was trying to look for one and nobody had really done one in the last six years, and it seems like a video that could probably do really well I'm sure with all of the interest in her current projects people would want someone to do a modern really deep dive review into zoophobia and see if it holds up
She was mainly focused on helluva and hazbin, she knew about the zoophobia show, but she was mainly working on making hazbin and helluva a big popular, which it already is
Luv your meditation on the topic. I always thought Zoophbia is a mystery, but when I got to know more about it appears that Zoophobia is more mystery for Viv herself. I don't want to call it a mess or smth, it gathers many good ideas and designs. Imho I think when Vivzie's ready, she should remake Zoophobia, reconsidering every detail about it, to create smth new and formalized. Years and years of work on Helluva/Hazbin universe broght she incredible experience, so I can't imagine what todays' Viv cable of, but it's definetely different from her student self. P.S Also I luv music on the background. I'd very thankful if Ayy Lmao or anyone from comments left name of songs
Zoophobia was my favorite comic when I was younger, used to read it each week with my friends and discuss the updates together. I was so sad when it stopped, I still checked back years later in case there was an update or if the reboot finally came out. I like Helluva Boss, not so much Hazbin Hotel (fandom makes me uncomfortable due to the large number of children), but Zoophobia was always my favorite. I really should spend an afternoon rereading it one of these days, I miss Addison and Mackenzie so much :]
Nah. It was always intended for an older audience. This was just a nice intro. I hope it continues after she is done with the other series, but I understand if it's gonna be a while. That much work must tire a person out.
I really enjoyed zoophobia. It sucked when she stopped it. If you pay close attention some of the characters do carry over to other works which gave me hope she wasn’t abandoning it but the years went by and nothing. It went so neglected that the links to the comic pages went dead. I haven’t been able to find anywhere with the whole comic.
Zoophobia would be a fantastic show with a colorful world and awesome characters and heartwarming stories and not focus on the dark stuff and hell(I do like Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss) but it would be fantastic to see if Vivziepop would ever pick up Zoophobia and continue making the show after Helluva boss and Hazbin Hotel ended
I started as a fan of her comic series. I was a huge fan and was so sad to hear that she ditched the comic series. She mentioned it in an old video when it slowed down a lot and eventually stopped. I remember her saying she was going to put all her time and effort into new projects that turned out to be hazbin hotel and helluva boss. But man I miss this comic!
I hope she comes back to zoophobia one day, that's how I found out about her! Copying her art style was how I learned to draw, and I think elements of that still show up in my art to this day. ZP was my everything when I was younger!
I think it’s more of a, she have too many projects currently running all at once right now to focus on another one on top of it, and people are impatient and can’t handle that. Besides she did say that she lost a sort of connection to it than she once had, and that’s completely fine. People have too many demands for viv to just create 100’s of shows and episodes with a snap of a finger. It’s ridiculous. Be patient and support her if you genuinely care. I used to support an artist that created a specific comic, but due to a death in their family, the creator couldn’t handle going back to it with the same mindset they once created the comic with, and that they unfortunately had to scrap it. They went on to create something else entirely. Everyone understood the situation and just wanted to support to creator. And I genuinely wish people were more open and understanding with viv about her situation too even tho it’s a bit different. It’s always sad to see a comic or show we used to love, be scrapped or abandoned, but we need to stop being selfish and understand the creator is also human, and that not everything will go the way we want it to. Stuff happens. Or they end up with different priorities in life or to do other work.
i used to be a really big fan of zoophobia and it pushed me artistically when i was really young. though i did lose interest after it stopped getting updated, seeing the interest in it now after like. 7 years is wild to me.
So she's just too busy to work on 3 things at once and presumably wants to right a better story? Not gonna lie would be neat to see Zoophobia again. Viv's style is Unique and i dig it. Hellvua Boss is a good showing of where VIV is now, and (eventually) Habin Hotel as well. So maybe Zoophobia will get another Reboot. And while Hellvua boss does have a few "issues" (Pacing mostly, but hay the videos are only like 20 mins long, what do i expect.) but when they HIT, THEY HIT HARD!
She says she wants to reboot it. So providing no one kills it through harassing her about it? Perfect But people, even in these comments, saying fans need to quieten down about it? Yeah, no.
Here's the thing. Artists become very very attached to their characters throughout their lifetime. Our characters grow with us and we still have them as part of us for years. Zoophobia was similar to Zootopia and was very first drafty and messy. So I'm sure after things calm down with Hazbin and Helluva, that something will come back from Zoophobia. I'm still so proud of her for bringing her characters to life after so many years. Her growth and progress is what any character artist can just dream of 🥰
I can understand why the Zoophobia fandom would be upset, it does feel like Viv abandoned one series made for another but still I don’t think it’s gone completely.
I would like to think when things with hazbin and helluva become more streamlined and easier with time, Zoophobia rebooted would be a 3rd series, with it changed so when the hazbin hotel characters cross over they would be more in character with the current version.
Personally, I think Zoophobia is the only interesting thing from her, so I wish the comic was still going. I don't enjoy the vulgarity of her other works, nor the rampant fanbase. Not holding any hopes for it to happen, just wanted to comment. Whatever she does is entirely up to her.
I binged Zoophobia in one evening. The first 3/4 was great, but the last part was running out of ideas, it was waaay too much drama and eneded probably somewhere halfway. Enjoyed it, though! Maybe it would be someplace where I would really like to be. Don´t think she will make another show anytime soon, though. I´ve heard about various dramas and that can sap your creativity and energy very quickly :/
As an artist and writer who made several ideas and comics, I can see why she "abandoned" zoophobia. I had a comic series I worked on ever since I was 12 and I'm an adult now, only stopped working on it about 2 years ago. Constantly rebooting and reworking ideas, polishing everything to perfection. I never grew an audience like vizie did, but I had a little bit of the same experience. You get tired of work on one idea for so long, so I "abandoned" my main idea to work on other ideas. I plan to go back to it one day, but that won't be for a while until I'm done with my other fresh ideas.
I love Zoophobia and hopefully we see more of it in the future as well. Love the comic and the shorts so I really hope we haven’t seen the last of her first masterpiece.
Every artist starts somewjhere. People are looking at this like some seperate, abandoned project.. but really, it was the start that evolved into other seperate ideas and projects! It's why it wont come back, because it already has in many ways-the character ideas in new stories and situations! Id view it as more of a reincarnation than an abandoned idea.
Tbh, I found all the controversies to be absolute rubbish. They have been debunked to death, yet the grave digging trolls keep bringing it back up. Also, the controversies about Addison were ridiculous. The fact that everyone went apeshit over the snake pics was pathetic (it's a drawing for f*cks sake...) And the relationship with Gustav goes further back to their original designs (Addison x Gunther)
fr I think people have forgot that Drawings don't have feelings. these people let their "Moral Feelings" get the best of them. instead of just moving on from the thing they don't like. They treat drawings like real people and real people like cartoons. Like the drawing isn't gonna thank you later for defending them.
In the short, there's what looks like to be an early design for Charlie with her downing a sunhat, which from my guessing was removed from later designs of the character to fit her more formal hotel attire also you could technically call it her first appearance before the pilot despite the differences
I made a follow up deep dive video on Zoophobia that's basically this one but better. Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/3qCoQ9TkBz8/w-d-xo.html
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I can't believe Zoophobia has been cancelled especially since the webcomic in 2012 and the animated short: Bad Luck Jack.
Vivziepop’s Zoophobia should stick to its original storyline
Wait only three comments?
she could also revamp it later on and fix the characters and storys
"Abandoned" is a strong word for a series she made a pilot for and then got busy with making two other shows.
Maybe she’ll consider doing more once she’s done with Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel.
Helluva boss season 3 is in production and will have 4 seasons in total and hazbin hotel was already planned out for its 3 seasons so if probably in the next one or two years she’ll get back to zoophobia when she figures out how she wants to continue the series
It was never a pilot.
Literally
It was a comic originally and got reasonably far
Me and Viv have the same problem. To many ideas for shows, and OCs. Also, I do feel bad for Viv because she was a cringy kid just trying to firgure things out. She even tried her best to explain that she was cringy and regrets it all.
Everyone was/is a cringy kid at one point. And sometimes making a half human-half fennec fox OC can be fun.
There's rarely a such thing as cringy.
@@kamikeserpentail3778 being "cringe" is so fun
Same. Fortunately, it means I won't ever run out of ideas. I store my ideas & had been deciding which ones to focus on more & finish first so that none of them will end up ignored & unfinished.
And they're all dogshit?
Fun fact: Alastor was originally a cannibalistic deer in Zoophobia, but later was changed to be a character in Hazbin. I don’t know why, but I theorize it has something to do with Zoophobia’s abandonment.
IIrc (from their wiki pages) Alastor, Angel, Husk, and a few other Hazbin characters were going to be part of this huge demon arc for Zoophobia since Hell was part of the Zoophobia lore, and as we can see now, those characters now became their own thing. It's kind of funny that Hazbin Hotel was kind of the spin-off from Zoophobia, and likewise Helluva Boss is technically a spin-off from Hazbin Hotel.
@@Scrofar ITS A SPINOFF OF A SPINOFF
spspinoffoff
Charlie was in it too, she had a hotel for demons to reside in, although I don't think it was for redemption. She wasn't even the daughter of Lucifer, just a Sinner.
@@midnights2631 Basically her whole life has been one big "I'm workshopping it" and the only reason we are getting Hazbin Hotel is because she managed to get just enough popularity that someone took hold of the ADHD creator paradox she was putting herself in, and steered it into a direction rather than doing donuts in a hell parkinglot for eternity. lulz
I loved zoophobia. I was checking the website for updates for years after it stopped in 2014. I onky stopped because Helluva and Hazbin became bigger projects and i realized Viv is probably too occupied with them to go back making Zoophobia.
Same.
same
Zoophobia is how i was introduced to Vivziepop. I remember waiting impatiently for a new page to come out.
Those were good times. I really do hope Zoophobia gets more content.
Dude same, the excitement when a new page came out was unbeatable!
IMPATIENT huh? if you waited like that I imagine you were an unbearable burden TYPING all the time and cursing her in a DISGUSTING way on VIVIEPOP
@@Joao_kakaroto811 bro we just waited patiently and got excited for a new page, chillax.
@@Joao_kakaroto811what are you talking about
I found her through the iconic die young animation, and then I looked into her work, where I found zoophobia and got into it
I always had my personal throry related to Zoophobia's "Abandonment." that was mainly relating to the stylistic conistency of the world, and the overall popularity of Hazbin/Helluva overtaking the series.
Working on a simultaneous third project would be borderline impossible to maintain when you're animating, and its hard enough when youre already doing two. Right now, its best she leaves Zoophobia alone, until she's allowed time for the current shows to finish up and release without one affecting the other.
I think people need to let artists let their old projects die if that’s what the artist wants. It’s hard to go backwards as an artist. I think Zoophobia lives on in Hazbin and Helluva and we should just appreciate that it was building block for what Viv is working on now.
Seriously, as an artist, my younger projects are for a younger self, they're a sketchbook for my future. I chose to share them with people, but I have no obligation to stay in my very first sandbox forever! If I have bigger and better things, I say thank you to an old project for what it taught me, and move on. Maybe I'd take some chunks with me, but it's really just a testing ground for what I can do, and learning who I am before I lean into something with better foundations. Having people enjoy it is amazing, but extremely unexpected if I'm making something to stretch my wings out and try something new.
In the end, it's a kid who tried to make something cool with their talent and ideas. They succeeded, and got famous for it! But it's still just a kid who made something cool that they love, but it wasn't supposed to be forever. Baby's First Project never survives impact with an audience for the first time. Having an audience that immediately critiques something as if it was professional quality and done by an adult with a studio is *awful* for a burgeoning artist just testing the waters on their powers for the first time. Especially if folks got pissed about it, and made it feel awful to involve oneself in. Walking away is exactly what she should have done. People poisoned the well by treating a kid so harshly for just playing around. It's like some kid playing on a piano at the mall to see what it sounds like, managing to play something nice, and getting critiqued as if they were an actual composer with training. Gross.
... I still wanna go back and redo my old stuff anyways. That'll always haunt me, even if I never do it. That's just an artist's curse of seeing the potential that never was (yet), haha. What else do you think we're fueled by? Pixies?
@@Uragani ya same here. I’m an illustrator and I just can’t stand people asking me about my older projects. Especially currently after the pandemic and not finishing Art school in my last year. I’m in that weird limbo state looking for a new style or project. To me I’m exploring and figuring things out but to others it’s always,” what happened to your old style?”
So people can't just like say "it would be really cool if viv made this a series"?,if so that's just stupid
Unfortunately, time on the internet is flat. Real life might move on, but old projects / things people posted are treated as if it was just yesterday.
If we're fans of zoophobia, we have the freedom to express it. Also YOU'RE not the authority.
And saying something like this isn't going to convince us otherwise, it's forceful and you give no good reasons. Sounds like you are just annoyed.
People tend to forget that this is the author's work. Sometimes, people grow out of their creations and want to move on. Especially when extreme criticism is thrown at you, and it's definitely has more of an impact when you're young. So people are now just pushing vizzie more, which will definitely cause her to drop the project all together due to stress and overload. I am in several dead fandoms where the work has been inactive for almost 5+ years. It sucks and we all wish the creator would come back, but it's their work, and we need to respect it. Maybe someday it will come back, but don't get your hopes up. Just be happy that you experienced it and just support Vizzie's other projects.
Based opinion 😩👌 i think that it’s always easy to expect others to provide everlasting dedication to work at their old passion projects… not every creator has the perseverance that their fans expect from them, it’s* normal to leave things behind, even though it’s sad. Call it bittersweet.
Just working on 2 shows in and of itself is TREMENDOUS stress, and when you have been doing a project for years, and then you start to spin off stuff into it's own project and THAT blows up... I mean there's a chance that she's still passionate about Zoophilia, but due to Zootopia being a thing, and what she was able to do with Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel she's probably trying not to screw those up.
I'm not saying that she's still on board with Zoophobia, I'm just saying that if she were to be, or in an alternative reality where she is, it's possible that she's passionate, but has to sit down and say "What exactly is it that I want out of this, and how is it that I'm gonna make this into what it deserves to be."
Sometimes you have to take steps back, and doing 2 t.v.. shows simultaneously is a lot for any one to do. There are some people that do have the ability to simultaneously craft several stories at the same time, while compartmentalizing it, but this was basically her training ground. She created all of her ideas in this world and made it too big for her to manage. So by spinning off the various concepts, she can still give those creative ideas their own breathing space, but at the same time figure out what she wants Zootopia to be in and of itself and if it connects back to the other series or not.
This stuff I'm saying could all be incorrect, but I feel like it's another interpretation of events. The other controversies and stuff wouldn't help with any of that. Expecting someone to flesh out 3 shows all at one time is kinda insanity. Especially if you want each of them to be cohesive. I don't think she has the capacity as a writer to do all the projects at once. It's a rare thing some people can do if they actually want to produce quality content and when she was creating the stuff, she really didn't have any chops, hadn't worked anywhere or with anyone.
This is all speculation on my part. People can only handle so much, and some people can handle more than others, but I think Vivzie is at her limit with 2 shows. Maybe even with 1 show. Sometimes I look at Hazbin and I go "What are we doing with this episode exactly?" and it just feels off and wrong and I think that is part of her reaching her limits.
Maybe I'm projecting myself onto Vivzie. I think 2 shows at a time is too much for Vivzie. 1.5 might be her limit, and she's doing 2, and if she was given 1,000 bitcoin she'd be trying to do 8. I say 1.5 because if she was creating the groundwork for 1, and then while that was in production created the groundwork for a second show, and then could alternate every so often, it wouldn't be working on 2 projects at a time. It'd be working on 1 really, and one sort of getting fleshed out and then she could focus on that one while the other one is in production and alternate.
She lacks focus IMO. That's always been her problem. From everything I'm hearing about her in the comments and on this video her problem is that she wants all of her ideas to live all at once, and she doesn't know how to give them breathing room. Her shortcut to this is taking stuff from Zoophobia, spinning them off into their own shows, so that she can give focus to zoophobia.
But since she's creating both shows at once, she's not able to really create the shows she could be doing if she was doing 1 hard, while preparing the next and alternating them.
Howabout I do anywaaaaay?
It sounds like Vivziepop can do no right in some peoples' eyes, whether she does something questionable or not.
She literally drew zoophilia…..if that was anybody else drawing that they would get canceled
@@mewmew1026 I dont think you know what "Literally" means.
@@growingup15 and I don’t think you understand what I just said 💀
@@mewmew1026 IDK can't really gauge context via text. Were you saying she "literally" drew that or you were just quoting the people who were saying that?
@@mewmew1026 1. She was 19
2. The snakes in question were serpians, aka shapeshifters capable of turning into snakes (that was the inside joke)
It was 10+ years ago, she doesn't condone it anymore, grow up.
the amount of harsh judgement and hatred the short gets is aggravating. yes, critique is fine, but all ive seen in a lot of videos regarding it are just people bashing it down. it doesnt have to be a masterpiece, and even with that said, its still very enjoyable to watch, regardless of its flaws. this is an indie animation, and it made the team happy to create, it was a part of vivziepops dream. i honestly enjoy the short a lot, and so many people do, and that means a lot to viv you guys care :)
(this isnt to say i think youre bad if you dislike the short or hate it even, im talking about those who are outward with their negative opinions and dont care about hurting the teams feelings by bashing on their work)
Call me weird or quirky, but I actually really enjoyed the zoophobia short animation and her comic, as I thought it was a cool concept!! I'm hoping to see more one day if vivz does decide to continue it
Me too!
Same! Honestly, I'm a sucker for her work in general
OMG so fvcking quirky ur so unique and not like the other girls 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭✨✨✨✨✨✨🤡🤡💅💅💅💅🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🖕🖕🖕👌👌👌💩💩😎😎😎😍😍😍😍😍💕💕💕
@@sussybaka119 Fr, glad that I’m not like them either.
@@sussybaka119 Is "quirky" a bad word now? A slur or something? -_- Seriously, calm down.
I’ve been following Vivziepop since I was 16. Like many it was the Die Young music video. Though I didn’t read the comic. I loved her speedpaint videos of her characters. I hope some forms of Zoophobia come out in the near future. But right now, I’m still patiently awaiting for more Helluva Boss episodes and for the first official episode of Hazbin Hotel.
next do why big chungus was abandoned
added to the list
He was abandoned due to war crimes
@@CrimsonWud Patreon probably
Como comentaste hace 40 minutos si subieron esto hace un minuto
@@CertifiedspiderhaterI don’t think he has a patreon
its funny cause i knew Viv from tumblr during the time zoophobia was being released though it frustrates me cause I enjoyed her work for what it was and was just happy to see her getting something rolling. I understand as a fellow artist, sometimes we just lose heart for projects even if we have fond memories of them. and that's totally okay. She's doing what she can and mistakes happen. There's also the issue of she clearly has a dark sense of humor which can lead to others finding quick reason to jump at being angry with her. Hell I'm surprised Helluva gets away with some of the shit it does ngl. Then again maybe I'm too understanding cause she's too relatable for me who knows.
I personally think Vivzie has a lot on her plate right now (helluva boss and hazbin hotel) so I think its not a.matter of her wanting or not to expand on the Zoophobia idea but her and her team having limits. Also its kina normal for creators to have small side projects they work on as a form of relaxation and fun while they are working on a big project.
Bad Luck Jack could be the pilot for a future series on the sidelines.....hope she releases another short! Id like for her to resume some story arcs that dont involve the angels and her hazbin characters....like i love to see Cameron in her life as a counselor in the Vivzieverse!
"Anti-Vivziepop" Should tell you just about everything you need to know about this person's intentions. The internet is full of the fucking weirdest people...
Ikr, if you unjokingly change your name to that and then dig up decade old pics to try and blast someone you really need to get a grip on your life.
For real,thats literally just being lifeless.@@CenerothXaris
I mean, I just wish people would just respect each other instead of blindly hating each other because of something
Viv was creating content that spoke to her heart, and once it no longer sparked joy she did what all artists do. We find something new, something inspiring. The fandom watched the entire process of that for Viv, and when she started to shift to something she enjoyed more people got salty that the thing they liked was not in her interest anymore. And now that Hazbin/Helluva is succeeding, the hatred for the Zoophobia content in her feed has probably tainted it for her. Nobody likes working on something that feels tainted in their hearts, and honestly, I don't think there will be a satisfying way to end ZP at this point.
I found viv through Zoophobia and have been glued to her content since, but I understand where shes coming from with the series. I also have plucked characters from my stories and put them in their own/ side character them so they better fit so they get the love they all deserve. I hope one day we get to see either more Zoophobia comics or another animated short. But with two other shows in the works i can see how thats a big chaotic management jumble. Id personally like to see more Zoophobia when shes not overly busy with other projects. Only time will tell what we as an audience will see next from her!
I wasn't into Zoophobia and found Viv through Hazbin when the pilot launched and I wasn't that interested in her original works. I tried reading Zoophibia but it bored me so I gave up until around a year ago I found comic dubs of it and watched them. The story is really good and the visuals are amazing, it had so much potential and I wish she would've kept working on it even though the Hazbin plot got turned into a whole new project. She could've even kept the hell plot in Zoophobia and have it be a different universe type of thing. I can understand why she cancelled it though because it was her first ever project and obviously like you said, she was inexperienced back then. Especially with all the criticism she got from it, it's probably put a bad taste in her mouth and honestly Zoophobia is probably connected to bad memories for her. I don't think we're ever going to see Zoophobia again because once she made Hazbin and saw the potential in that, she decided it was a better investment than Zoophobia.
This was a very informative video! Seeing the history makes me wish I got interested in Viv’s projects years before I actually did. That way I would have been able to see more of her journey as an artist. I also pray not all hope is lost for Zoophobia. JayJay is one of my favorite fictional characters (as my pfp indicates, lol) so it would be great to see her make a return! You always make such informative videos Ayy! I really appreciate you trawling through all the old history and brining it to us!
Guys just remember that viv is working on TWO SHOWS.. and I think it would affect the other shows if she does three. Not to mention she already seems like she gets burnt out a lot, so let's not make it worse. She might work on it when she is done with hazbin hotel or helluva boss, but I think it would be best if she just leaves it.. for the sake of her own mental health
Couldn't criticism be more reasonable or structured. Those heavy criticism are crying adults acting like children.
that was the 2010's internet for you (although i doubt that type of behaviour has stopped)
@@m4rshm3ll0wb0b4 thank you for saying. Hell I was born in the late 90s.
Hmmmm its a shame Zoophobia is abandoned ever since the webcomic in 2012 and the animated short which is Bad Luck Jack, but it's okay. I know how hardworking Viv is with her projects especially with Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss.
Yeah, sadly not all ideas can be winners. You just can't humanly do everything. Time is limited.
@@frogboi8579 That is true. But I'm okay with it.
For Someone Who Only Goes To Vivzie's Channel To Watch Both Hazbin Hotel Or Helluva Boss
Man I Feel So Sorry For Viv To Deal With Some Many Issues For Zoophobia
Oh my god the mention of her first channel gave me such a wave of nostalgia. I watched like all of those videos and read the comics. I miss Zoophobia a lot but I understand why she is leaving it alone rn
I really feel for viv. It feels like no one can be pleased with any fate for Zoophobia. Vivs fame is a real strange sad case. I can only hope she is able to feel love and support for the great strides she’s making in the indie animation community
I think they didn't abandon it, it was just a short that they came up with at some point when they were developing characters, they've been busy with helluva boss for a long time and with happy hotel for more, if they plan to follow it they have it as a future project or maybe as a project that they already have polished and it's a surprise
Zoophobia has a special place in my heart. I was introduced with the Bad Luck Jack short and hyperfixated on it for a while. The comic was so beautiful and so many depths to the lore and characters. I think Viv will keep her promise of rebooting it one day and I'll be waiting!
I understand where she's coming from. She improved herself and her arts throughout these years. So when she looked back and saw so many flaws in her designs while also seeing how far she has come, she cannot helped but feeling like her first work is sort of a failure from certain perspective. Sure, it was a big hit and the people liked it and they still do but in her eyes, it was her flawed starting point.
yeah it’s like the first wonky pancake. Sure that pancake probably tasted good but the next ones will be prettier and smoother around the edges and taste just as nice.
The thing with Zootopia is really funny because it's called Zootroplis or Zoomania in some countries, so Viv really didn't need to worry about its name being close to Zoophobia.
I’ve been a fan Zoophobia since 2015, and I went CRAZY when Bad Luck Jack premiered. I’m so sad that it’s faded into nothing :(
I won't be surprised if the reason she dropped it was she was simply too busy. Her having disconnect makes a lot of sense as time plus burn out is very much a thing. I can understand fans would be upset but people can be really entitled sometimes.
imagine the day when both Hazbin and Helluva are finished and Viv just drops the full Zoophobia cinematic universe on us.
Hopefully after Hazbin and Helluva boss series is finished and they released hazbin hotel, i just hope the writing isn't actually bullshit but with great pacing and more i just hope it's a better version of hazbin hotel and helluva boss combined.
The problem is, she can only work on so many shows at once. And currently has TWO shows in the works. And there is a reason why we keep getting HELLUVA BOSS episodes but Hazbin hotel has been on hold for a while. There is no way Zoophobia is getting done while she’s got either projects going. We may see it return after she’s finished Helluva boss and has more time to work on other things. But we probably won’t see a show or more comics coming out until Hazbin Hotel is fully finished.
I see Zoophobia as Vivzies prototype. It was awesome and I'm sure it helped her learn a lot of new stuff too. The preojects after Zoophobia get to be even better, thanks to it.
I hope Viv can get Zoophobia back on track
I’ve repeatedly mentioned this before, but despite the indefinite hiatus, Zoophobia will lived on to those who read the original webcomic. Even if some of the ideas were passed to Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Who knows, maybe one day someone will buy the rights to Zoophobia and make a proper adaptation of the webcomic.
I hope Zoophobia gets her series made since it's so good. Maybe after she's finishes her other projects, she'll get back to this.
I love Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Zoophobia will be great series to watch once she gets back to it.
I'm Glad That Vivziepop Said That Zoophobia Isn't Dead And I'll Hope She'll Reboot It Soon ❤ 😊
its so wierd at 2:09 to see angle dust, niffty, and mimzy next to the other zoophobia cast
Because originally Hazbin Hotel was meant to be in the same show as Zoophobia but it was scrapped
She’ll come back eventually. Zoophobia has a lot of potential to be a good series!
When i watched the short film, i had NO idea this had a story with comics, even being part of Hazbin oriogionally. I loved the short, it was intentionally cheezy and had good poppy songs. But i tottaly get that people were probably expecting somethjng less for kids and more dark and Hazbin/helluva like. I liked it being unaware of the orional premises, i may not of if i was aware of its past storys and dark plots/being aware this was a different tone and plot.
I love how she takes inspiration from her old projects 💞
Hopefully this show gets another chance
I remember being really into it but then it just stopped and it became obvious that they wouldn’t continue it.
I think the reason why Viz gave up on Zoophobia is because she has no idea on what to do with it and that she has all she can do to maintain Helluvaboss and Hazbin Hotel.
I wish she didn’t cancel Alice that looked great she should still do it with one of her teams
I hope they bring it back
7:40 earlier in the video, you said Addison didn’t appear in bad luck jack, but he is next to Sahara
I don't even know why these are needed to be discussed in videos. It's simple, a person made a comic. They lost inspiration and moved to another project. Simple as that. I also find it always hilarios that people point at her early "cringy" nsfw topics while they hype people in hazbin and helluva who do one crime after another, mass murder, killing kids etc. it's just a bunch of hypocrites xD
My issue is that people treat Viv in a bad light as if she would be the "outstanding artist who does it all for the first time in history" while ALL other artists are like this. Growing up through the decades almost all artists had cringy art back then on deviantart where ages never mattered, many big comics that got super popular (I immidiately think of TC-96 or the Off White comic) got abandoned with old projects to either focus on another fandom or move on to real life etc. It's nothing new and nothing worth discussing.
i just realized the level 100 Doors music is playing. Great content!
Maybe Im just biased since I got into vivziepop like 10 years ago but Zoophobia was the story that I always really and truely wanted to see fully fledged out. I dont hate Hazbin (i dont particularly like it either) but I always found the character designs and environments in Zootophobia more appealing personally. Despite that, as an artist myself I can understand why she wouldn't continue it since I sure as hell wouldnt wanna pick up the comic I tried making as a teen.
i hope it get picked back by viv once hazbin hotel and helluva boss are finished/completed/over
Honestly, I do hope Zoophobia gets revived soon. I really like the art style and scenery of it and find its more mellow vibes and brighter, more cool and diverse colors and nice and refreshing break from the very gritty, grimy, edgy, angular, industrial, Black and Neon vaguely apocalyptic vibe Hazbin and Helluva have.
That xZoOPhobiAx name just screames early 2010s
Hopefully she'll maybe continue it or remake the comic after Helluva Boss. Really one of the vivizepop works I actually was looking forward to.
Hold up, why is zoophobia abandoned? You can't abandon it, man! It was the best show I loved and then you made me fell for helluva boss!
He explains that in the video
did you not watch the video?
@@AngelsonClan yes
I think she is doing the best thing possible for her brand. Putting zoophobia on hold and focusing on other things that she is more inspired by. She has admitted that she made many mistakes with the writing for zoophobia so when she comes back to it I imagine she will do a complete reworking of it and reimagining of the characters and story with the same general idea for the plot.
We all did horrible stuff as kids and young adults. Our brains aren’t even fully developed until our late twenties. I’m not a fan but I don’t hold any hate. It’s disappointing but y’all forget how Wild West the internet was until 2020 when everyone couldn’t touch grass.
Im not defending her but cancel culture should focus on pdf.files among other awful human beings hurting people.
Like I see so much support for that shadman guy. Idek but the weird creep who draws children. He deserves Hell yet for some reason people support him.
0:25 I can’t 😂 ☠
Also thanks for the information! I’ve been wondering about this for a while
Discovered Zoophobia (Bad Luck Jack), as a Zootopia fan, never having heard of Vivzie, and enjoyed the short. I have gone on to enjoy HelluvaBoss and the trailers for HasbinHotel, but still wait for a return of Zoophobia. Looks like I better not hold my breath.
Zoophobia was the only show I looked forward to with her. I watched the Hazbin stuff up until it released and i never disliked it but I just wanted Zoophobia. It would be so awesome if she came back to it in some way, maybe just a long form video mini show thing. But i doubt it and that's fine. I dont necessarily like most of Vivzie's actions and beliefs now too so I cant say I'm strong about this remark.
If you're looking for more content to do while waiting for the next hellaverse project, I think it would be interesting if you just did a full deep-dive review of the zoophobia comic
I was trying to look for one and nobody had really done one in the last six years, and it seems like a video that could probably do really well
I'm sure with all of the interest in her current projects people would want someone to do a modern really deep dive review into zoophobia and see if it holds up
She was mainly focused on helluva and hazbin, she knew about the zoophobia show, but she was mainly working on making hazbin and helluva a big popular, which it already is
Luv your meditation on the topic. I always thought Zoophbia is a mystery, but when I got to know more about it appears that Zoophobia is more mystery for Viv herself. I don't want to call it a mess or smth, it gathers many good ideas and designs. Imho I think when Vivzie's ready, she should remake Zoophobia, reconsidering every detail about it, to create smth new and formalized. Years and years of work on Helluva/Hazbin universe broght she incredible experience, so I can't imagine what todays' Viv cable of, but it's definetely different from her student self.
P.S Also I luv music on the background. I'd very thankful if Ayy Lmao or anyone from comments left name of songs
Zoophobia was my favorite comic when I was younger, used to read it each week with my friends and discuss the updates together. I was so sad when it stopped, I still checked back years later in case there was an update or if the reboot finally came out. I like Helluva Boss, not so much Hazbin Hotel (fandom makes me uncomfortable due to the large number of children), but Zoophobia was always my favorite. I really should spend an afternoon rereading it one of these days, I miss Addison and Mackenzie so much :]
I always love the Animated One of ZooPhobia which I did a reaction and I hope I can wait for more of the UPDATEs going on for ZooPhobia
Was Zoophobia sort of a family friendly show? And I meant the short cartoon one.
Nah. It was always intended for an older audience. This was just a nice intro.
I hope it continues after she is done with the other series, but I understand if it's gonna be a while. That much work must tire a person out.
I really enjoyed zoophobia. It sucked when she stopped it. If you pay close attention some of the characters do carry over to other works which gave me hope she wasn’t abandoning it but the years went by and nothing. It went so neglected that the links to the comic pages went dead. I haven’t been able to find anywhere with the whole comic.
Zoophobia would be a fantastic show with a colorful world and awesome characters and heartwarming stories and not focus on the dark stuff and hell(I do like Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss) but it would be fantastic to see if Vivziepop would ever pick up Zoophobia and continue making the show after Helluva boss and Hazbin Hotel ended
I started as a fan of her comic series. I was a huge fan and was so sad to hear that she ditched the comic series. She mentioned it in an old video when it slowed down a lot and eventually stopped. I remember her saying she was going to put all her time and effort into new projects that turned out to be hazbin hotel and helluva boss. But man I miss this comic!
I hope she comes back to zoophobia one day, that's how I found out about her! Copying her art style was how I learned to draw, and I think elements of that still show up in my art to this day. ZP was my everything when I was younger!
2:06 did anybody notice angel dust, niffty (or niffy idk) and alastor in there?!
I'm really hope to look forward to Vivziepop bringing back this fun series. This would give an opportunity to see something new.
I think it’s more of a, she have too many projects currently running all at once right now to focus on another one on top of it, and people are impatient and can’t handle that. Besides she did say that she lost a sort of connection to it than she once had, and that’s completely fine. People have too many demands for viv to just create 100’s of shows and episodes with a snap of a finger. It’s ridiculous. Be patient and support her if you genuinely care.
I used to support an artist that created a specific comic, but due to a death in their family, the creator couldn’t handle going back to it with the same mindset they once created the comic with, and that they unfortunately had to scrap it. They went on to create something else entirely. Everyone understood the situation and just wanted to support to creator. And I genuinely wish people were more open and understanding with viv about her situation too even tho it’s a bit different. It’s always sad to see a comic or show we used to love, be scrapped or abandoned, but we need to stop being selfish and understand the creator is also human, and that not everything will go the way we want it to. Stuff happens. Or they end up with different priorities in life or to do other work.
I remember reading the zoophobia comic over a decade ago. I really loved it. Meant to go back to it but I never did
i used to be a really big fan of zoophobia and it pushed me artistically when i was really young. though i did lose interest after it stopped getting updated, seeing the interest in it now after like. 7 years is wild to me.
Next do why Ayy Lmfao was abandoned
we fell off zolan
So she's just too busy to work on 3 things at once and presumably wants to right a better story? Not gonna lie would be neat to see Zoophobia again. Viv's style is Unique and i dig it. Hellvua Boss is a good showing of where VIV is now, and (eventually) Habin Hotel as well. So maybe Zoophobia will get another Reboot.
And while Hellvua boss does have a few "issues" (Pacing mostly, but hay the videos are only like 20 mins long, what do i expect.) but when they HIT, THEY HIT HARD!
She says she wants to reboot it. So providing no one kills it through harassing her about it? Perfect
But people, even in these comments, saying fans need to quieten down about it? Yeah, no.
Here's the thing. Artists become very very attached to their characters throughout their lifetime. Our characters grow with us and we still have them as part of us for years. Zoophobia was similar to Zootopia and was very first drafty and messy. So I'm sure after things calm down with Hazbin and Helluva, that something will come back from Zoophobia.
I'm still so proud of her for bringing her characters to life after so many years. Her growth and progress is what any character artist can just dream of 🥰
I can understand why the Zoophobia fandom would be upset, it does feel like Viv abandoned one series made for another but still I don’t think it’s gone completely.
Maybe after season 1&2 of Hazbin Hotel we might see Vivziepop might go back to Zoophobia
I would like to think when things with hazbin and helluva become more streamlined and easier with time, Zoophobia rebooted would be a 3rd series, with it changed so when the hazbin hotel characters cross over they would be more in character with the current version.
Personally, I think Zoophobia is the only interesting thing from her, so I wish the comic was still going. I don't enjoy the vulgarity of her other works, nor the rampant fanbase. Not holding any hopes for it to happen, just wanted to comment. Whatever she does is entirely up to her.
I recognize that SIGNALIS music
i can see where viv got the beezelbub color scheme from
I binged Zoophobia in one evening. The first 3/4 was great, but the last part was running out of ideas, it was waaay too much drama and eneded probably somewhere halfway.
Enjoyed it, though! Maybe it would be someplace where I would really like to be.
Don´t think she will make another show anytime soon, though. I´ve heard about various dramas and that can sap your creativity and energy very quickly :/
I feel like people just need stuff to complain about sometimes. No reason why. Just hateful thoughts.
When Zootopia was announced I thought Disney was working with Vivziepop to turn the comic into a movie :(
And when i saw the die young animation on tik tok i thought it was a clip from a animated movie
As an artist and writer who made several ideas and comics, I can see why she "abandoned" zoophobia. I had a comic series I worked on ever since I was 12 and I'm an adult now, only stopped working on it about 2 years ago. Constantly rebooting and reworking ideas, polishing everything to perfection. I never grew an audience like vizie did, but I had a little bit of the same experience. You get tired of work on one idea for so long, so I "abandoned" my main idea to work on other ideas. I plan to go back to it one day, but that won't be for a while until I'm done with my other fresh ideas.
I love Zoophobia and hopefully we see more of it in the future as well. Love the comic and the shorts so I really hope we haven’t seen the last of her first masterpiece.
Every artist starts somewjhere. People are looking at this like some seperate, abandoned project.. but really, it was the start that evolved into other seperate ideas and projects!
It's why it wont come back, because it already has in many ways-the character ideas in new stories and situations!
Id view it as more of a reincarnation than an abandoned idea.
Tbh, I found all the controversies to be absolute rubbish. They have been debunked to death, yet the grave digging trolls keep bringing it back up.
Also, the controversies about Addison were ridiculous.
The fact that everyone went apeshit over the snake pics was pathetic (it's a drawing for f*cks sake...)
And the relationship with Gustav goes further back to their original designs (Addison x Gunther)
fr I think people have forgot that Drawings don't have feelings. these people let their "Moral Feelings" get the best of them. instead of just moving on from the thing they don't like. They treat drawings like real people and real people like cartoons.
Like the drawing isn't gonna thank you later for defending them.
i would love to see damien get a cameo in hh/hb he was absolutely my favorite character in the comic
I actually think zoophobia was pretty cool. I think it deserves to be an animated series.
In the short, there's what looks like to be an early design for Charlie with her downing a sunhat, which from my guessing was removed from later designs of the character to fit her more formal hotel attire also you could technically call it her first appearance before the pilot despite the differences