throw any rumor involving the Leafs and Flames out the window because it isn't going to happen the Flames owner is pouting and doesn't want to do any deal with the Leafs
I thought the same way. I can see Calgary entertaining interest on lower name players in deals, just not the studs. However, in Coleman’s case, I just don’t see Calgary retaining salary in a trade with the Leafs.
Flames won't trade with treliving he wrecked the team. Sign a #1 goalie then traded the core for an older lesser player and picks. Worst gm in the league
Bertuzzi is not a big loss imo. We have some goals to replace, or we could just allow less, but Bertuzzi is incredibly slow and handles the puck horribly.
@@shaneturner1809 who said anything about trading either ? If anything maybe Fraser as he will prob only be a 3rd line centre at best . Cowan isn’t going anywhere , he reminds me of a Mitch marner . If he can be anywhere close to him, it will be a success
If the Flames are trading a 30 goal scorer and are asked to retain salary, Nick Robertson and a secondary prospect will not be enough. Robertson, Cowan and a 1st round pick may get it done. Also would Coleman want to move to Toronto - the NMC gives him total control
I'm very disappointed with Robertson. True, Keefe misused him and he has every right to be bitter, but give Berube a chance! I really think that Chief will give him the ice time he wants. Suck it up Nick and give it a year...
I understand Nick's frustration, he was being sent up and down for no other reason other than the cap, but I believe there is so much more to his game still. He scored 14 goals last season in the coach's dog house and if he can clean up his decision making in the D-zone and neutral zone then I think he's a very valuable player. He doesn't have to be a stud in all areas, I think Berube can help him clean up the decision making and give him a chance to do what he does best. He should succeed if healthy. - Darius
To me you deal a Robertson, Timmins (as the young roster pkayer), Kampf or Reaves (as a salary dump), and a pick or prospect for… Boone Jenner (at 50%) Blake Coleman (at 50%) Or Ryan McGroaty
Toronto doesn't have to trade with Calgary to get Blake. Not do they have to trade what Calgary needs ( Robertson). They can trade with a different team, say Dallas as an example. Maybe Jarnkrok and Kampf to Dallas for Blake, after Dallas trades Calgary, some prospects for Blake. If Dallas got Calgary to retain, Toronto could offer value for double retention.
..wow..Calgary was gutted..on the cusp of relevancy they trade Tkachuk for Huberdeau at 10.5 mil. forever, another crippling move..and the responsible party is now the G.M. in Toronto..???
Blake Coleman makes $4.9 million a year for three years. He was a member of the two cup teams in Tampa Bay and got overvalued as a result. He is coming off a career best season so the Leafs would be buying high. He's a career 17 goal 35 point player. Flames want prospects and picks. What are the Leafs going to give up for a guy who is guaranteed to have a worse offensive season this year. And what salary are you going dump??? Might as well have gone to get Kadri. Tanev is not going to be an elite defenseman. Leafs don't have a cup window. This version of the Leafs has failed,they will not win a cup. Going to trade Tanev for him? Flames don't want Kampf. No one wants Kampf. Nick Robertson has played in 4 NHL seasons and has played 87 games and has 17 goals and 34 points. His only virtue that I can see is he is 22 and can improve. His virtue is potential not anything he has actually done yet.
Cheaper than bert and better goal production then him and Domi that contract is cheap for a 30 goal scorer he would of got 6 million if was a free agent
Domi is a 9 goal scorer. He scored 28 one year with Montreal when they started the season with him as the #1 center. He has actually scored 9 goals in a season four times in his nine year NHL career.
Leafs made a massive mistake signing liljegren and allowing Bert ( a player that really wanted to play for the leafs) walk. This team is not good enough to compete with the elite teams in the league. Another bust of a year if they don’t make a significant move before the season
@@Redz1991 most of the time when you go to a new team there’s an adjustment period. He didn’t “ wake up” he was just comfortable playing the style of hockey that the coach wanted at the halfway mark. He also missed plenty of great opportunities to score he could’ve easily had 10 more goals. Coleman is definitely not better than Bert. Never has been never will be
@@shanebrohm7786 I agree with you there but still he missed so many chances because he doesn’t tape his stick? You ever see him make a good pass? Or take a hard pass comfortably? Because I haven’t . Also, his Defensive game isn’t great , Coleman is leaps and bounds better defensively. Bert maybe a bit better now because of the age but he’s not much better at all if any
@@shanebrohm7786 Blake Coleman scored 30 goals on a shit team . Can you imagine he played with Matthews’s marner and nylander like bertuzzi did? He would’ve scored 40+ easy. He had 54 points this year , bert had 44, last year Coleman had almost 40 points , Bert had 30. Should I keep going?
@@Redz1991 yeah he needs to tape his stick. I think that would help him receive passes better but he’s much better player than Coleman. He’s a lot more physical and more of a dog in front of the net. He’s also underrated at those little in tight passes that are playoff style plays. I think bert is better defensively as well. I think he’s better at everything except for skating
Boone Jenner would be a better fit contract wise. Or Trade Rielly Robertson jarnkrok for weegar and Coleman. Or the same 2 to san Jose for ferraro and goodrow
throw any rumor involving the Leafs and Flames out the window because it isn't going to happen the Flames owner is pouting and doesn't want to do any deal with the Leafs
I thought the same way. I can see Calgary entertaining interest on lower name players in deals, just not the studs.
However, in Coleman’s case, I just don’t see Calgary retaining salary in a trade with the Leafs.
How do most of the trade rumors keep involving the one team that refuses to deal with the Leafs? Somebody is trolling.
Flames won't trade with treliving he wrecked the team. Sign a #1 goalie then traded the core for an older lesser player and picks. Worst gm in the league
Bertuzzi is not a big loss imo. We have some goals to replace, or we could just allow less, but Bertuzzi is incredibly slow and handles the puck horribly.
Flame are not dealing with the Leafs...
No, not interested in trading Cowan or Minten for more salary this year
You need these guys in 2 years to offset the other big salaries
@@shaneturner1809 who said anything about trading either ? If anything maybe Fraser as he will prob only be a 3rd line centre at best . Cowan isn’t going anywhere , he reminds me of a Mitch marner . If he can be anywhere close to him, it will be a success
Nick Roberson stays with the leafs thinking he improved enough to get an opportunity to become fulltime maple leaf in 2024 2025
Cowan and Minten can make up for 20 goals if they're ready this season at a much better cap hit even if Calgary retains.
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If the Flames are trading a 30 goal scorer and are asked to retain salary, Nick Robertson and a secondary prospect will not be enough. Robertson, Cowan and a 1st round pick may get it done. Also would Coleman want to move to Toronto - the NMC gives him total control
No... if Cowan is in the deal, the 1st would be coming Toronto
They don't have the cap or assets for coleman. They do have Minten and Cowan.... which makes way more sense.
I’d love Coleman he’s. A Swiss Army knife can do it all and score . He’s better then bertuzzi IMO
But he's American. No thanks
So is Austin and knies 😅
@@philhoughton3677 lmao right
@@thricefan89 so is Matthews’s ?
@@philhoughton3677 yep, and that's enough
More to America
I'm very disappointed with Robertson. True, Keefe misused him and he has every right to be bitter, but give Berube a chance! I really think that Chief will give him the ice time he wants. Suck it up Nick and give it a year...
I understand Nick's frustration, he was being sent up and down for no other reason other than the cap, but I believe there is so much more to his game still. He scored 14 goals last season in the coach's dog house and if he can clean up his decision making in the D-zone and neutral zone then I think he's a very valuable player. He doesn't have to be a stud in all areas, I think Berube can help him clean up the decision making and give him a chance to do what he does best. He should succeed if healthy. - Darius
He is good but to small especially for playoffs 😊
Stupidity as it's finest. Why dish out 4 or 5 mill for someone else when they could have kept Bert for that money.
No need to trade for anyone. Try developing some of the talent Wes Clark got us. If he's such a big loss where are all of his picks?
To me you deal a Robertson, Timmins (as the young roster pkayer), Kampf or Reaves (as a salary dump), and a pick or prospect for…
Boone Jenner (at 50%)
Blake Coleman (at 50%)
Or Ryan McGroaty
Toronto doesn't have to trade with Calgary to get Blake. Not do they have to trade what Calgary needs ( Robertson).
They can trade with a different team, say Dallas as an example. Maybe Jarnkrok and Kampf to Dallas for Blake, after Dallas trades Calgary, some prospects for Blake. If Dallas got Calgary to retain, Toronto could offer value for double retention.
The only the Leafs get Coleman, if he asks to go to Toronto. He would go to Dallas when they ask for him
You can always retain salary on Coleman’s contract
Yeah but No, I think that the Flames and Leaf's are a no go as long as Tre is GM. Love the player not the salary, just don't see this happening.
..wow..Calgary was gutted..on the cusp of relevancy they trade Tkachuk for Huberdeau at 10.5 mil. forever, another crippling move..and the responsible party is now the G.M. in Toronto..???
Blake Coleman makes $4.9 million a year for three years. He was a member of the two cup teams in Tampa Bay and got overvalued as a result. He is coming off a career best season so the Leafs would be buying high. He's a career 17 goal 35 point player. Flames want prospects and picks. What are the Leafs going to give up for a guy who is guaranteed to have a worse offensive season this year.
And what salary are you going dump???
Might as well have gone to get Kadri.
Tanev is not going to be an elite defenseman.
Leafs don't have a cup window. This version of the Leafs has failed,they will not win a cup.
Going to trade Tanev for him?
Flames don't want Kampf. No one wants Kampf.
Nick Robertson has played in 4 NHL seasons and has played 87 games and has 17 goals and 34 points. His only virtue that I can see is he is 22 and can improve. His virtue is potential not anything he has actually done yet.
Let's get Boone Jenner out of CLB.... Robertson, Timmins and a prospect
Trade Robertson n liligren to Winnipeg for mcgoarty
Cheaper than bert and better goal production then him and Domi that contract is cheap for a 30 goal scorer he would of got 6 million if was a free agent
Domi is a 9 goal scorer. He scored 28 one year with Montreal when they started the season with him as the #1 center.
He has actually scored 9 goals in a season four times in his nine year NHL career.
Jarnkrook and a 3rd for Coleman
Leafs made a massive mistake signing liljegren and allowing Bert ( a player that really wanted to play for the leafs) walk. This team is not good enough to compete with the elite teams in the league. Another bust of a year if they don’t make a significant move before the season
Coleman is better then bertuzzi … bertuzzi was awful half the year and then he finally woke up 50 games in
@@Redz1991 most of the time when you go to a new team there’s an adjustment period. He didn’t “ wake up” he was just comfortable playing the style of hockey that the coach wanted at the halfway mark. He also missed plenty of great opportunities to score he could’ve easily had 10 more goals. Coleman is definitely not better than Bert. Never has been never will be
@@shanebrohm7786 I agree with you there but still he missed so many chances because he doesn’t tape his stick? You ever see him make a good pass? Or take a hard pass comfortably? Because I haven’t . Also, his Defensive game isn’t great , Coleman is leaps and bounds better defensively. Bert maybe a bit better now because of the age but he’s not much better at all if any
@@shanebrohm7786 Blake Coleman scored 30 goals on a shit team . Can you imagine he played with Matthews’s marner and nylander like bertuzzi did? He would’ve scored 40+ easy. He had 54 points this year , bert had 44, last year Coleman had almost 40 points , Bert had 30. Should I keep going?
@@Redz1991 yeah he needs to tape his stick. I think that would help him receive passes better but he’s much better player than Coleman. He’s a lot more physical and more of a dog in front of the net. He’s also underrated at those little in tight passes that are playoff style plays. I think bert is better defensively as well. I think he’s better at everything except for skating
Typical leafs , should have keeped Bertuzzi
Boone Jenner would be a better fit contract wise.
Or Trade Rielly Robertson jarnkrok for weegar and Coleman.
Or the same 2 to san Jose for ferraro and goodrow