LFR18 - Game 5 - Igor Again - Rangers 4, Maple Leafs 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- Steve Dangle recaps and analyzes Game 5 of the Toronto Maple Leafs season against the New York Rangers.
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It's actually fitting that John Tavares has an anti-5G WIFI amulet because that man skates slower than a dial-up modem you used back in 2005.
This is gold. Thank you for sharing 😂
poor John, he is no longer a young man
I feel very sorry for you if you were still using Dial-Up in 2005. 1995 yes, 2005....no.
@@highrofellos6721 high-speed internet wasnt available everywhere in 2005
2005? Where were you livin' b'y? the Rural prairies?
I think Johnny T has gotta come off the first power play unit. Might be better to have Matty Knies as a net front presence. The power play is anemic
I definitely do agree the powerplay needs to change, but idk if Tavares being moved is the choice. For one, his main problem is speed, which considering on pp he sits in front of the net and screens isn't a major problem. The second is that he's the center, if you put knies in then matthews has to take the face off, and that means he can't be setup off the face off. It's not always what they do but more often then not on the pp when they win it back to matthews on the one timer it goes in. I think personally they need to just fully change it up, put marner and Nylander on 2nd pp, give robertson and mcmann some time on pp1, see if it works. If it don't, try something else. Its the start of the season, but we need to figure this out sooner rather than later so we don't got 1/30 or whatever it was again
@@darcys842 Might be a good call to spread the core 4 out between the units... PP2 unit is nothing but total scraps. just an absolute hodge podge of players
@@Outta-hz1ej honestly. Like I love the talent we have for depth scoring, but it feels like the powerplay is set specifically for the pp1 guys, so when the pp2 guys come they try to do the same thing but they don't have the tools or chemistry to do anything. We should either split the pp1 and make it so we have two equally good pps or we need to get specific set plays that the pp2 guys can consistently do. Either way it needs work and I'm hoping berube can do it
@@darcys842
JT's decline correlates with the PP's decline in the last 2 years tbh. His speed is a huge issue on entries because for some reason they insist on passing it to him at the blue line. Before he could at least win board battles and let the team set up, that's going with age.
The second biggest issue for me is you have three guys (16, 34, 88) who want to play on the wall, so nobody wants to play the bumper position which messes up the structure.
With the 1-3-1 you have clear passing options, while for the Leafs it seems to be just move around and hope a 40-goal scorer gets open for a one-timer
@@stevendchu all your points are fair, but still I think that just means they need to change how they go about the pp, hes the best face off taker we got which is the main reason hes still on the pp1. If u take him off of pp1 you either need to put someone else who can take face off in, in which case they will always be worse then Tavares is, or you have matthews do it meaning he won't be able to get the immediate one timers that when they happen work pretty well. Which is why I suggest just splitting up the pp1, they are already experimenting with having rielly on pp2 so why not try having Nylander on pp2 and have robertson or mcmann in his spot, both of them can win board battles and play bumper, and it allows Nylander to fill the much needed role of having a star on pp2. Alternatively you can have marner on pp2 who pretty much fills the same role. Idk who exactly would replace him, of course mcmann or knies would be good, but I could see domi taking it too, since they both are playmakers. Anyways, what I'm getting at is there is more than just replacing Tavares that could get the pp going, and I think just getting him on pp2 and calling it a day would do more harm than good
I'm the one who told Steve about Miller getting hurt..I'm taking this as a shoutout!
Also....THANK GOD HE CAME BACK!! He's the heartband soul of the team!
Yeah yeah yeah, Leafs lost. We get it.
The real question we should be asking is why are beers $20 at the arena?
Like wtaf?
because as someone who doesn’t even live in Toronto or Canada for that matter, it’s the Maple Leafs and it’s beer. of course they’re gonna be $20 lmao
@@DominicGibbs It's BS
Imagine watching losers play live
Don't buy it
They will charge what the market will bear. Every time.
That's why teams with elite goaltending have won Stanley Cup past 7 or so years
Edit - I wrote goaltending, not goaltender. Binner was elite in that 2019 run if you watched every Blues game, and Hill had a .932 playoffs save percentage when Vegas won Stanley Cup. And Binner has single handedly won Blues so many games with trash defense in front of him past couple years.
yeah… but it’s the rangers. they can get to the ECF, but in crunch time, they’re not gonna be able to get it done.
Adin Hill, Darcy Kuemper, Jordan Binnington, Matt Murray, Brayden Holtby... elite? I don't know about that. More like teams with great defence have won the last 7 cups.
Kuemper, Francouz, Binner, Murray, Hill....???????????????
And it's why the Leafs won't win the cup this year despite the new coach. I've seen this movie enough fucking times.
is Binnington an elite goaltender? is Aiden Hill? even bobrovsky had many dismissing him early last season.
elite goaltenders emerge, the leafs have their chances. it's the forwards that keeps this team from winning.
Day 5 of asking producer Drew to add maximus domi to the intro
I can’t believe we are saying “we need goals” yet the core four who take up most of the cap space are all forwards who are supposed to be giving us GOALS! I love JT but it’s time for him to take a hometown discount 3 mil per season (no trade clause) . That gives us space to re-sign Knies, Robertson,McMann who all look promising… we don’t need to have another Hyman situation.
Goalied in October. It Happens. No worries in Leaf Land. Was a good game.
Teams have goalies.
@@ChrisMolyneaux93not every team has a Shesterkin 😂
Still don't drive the net like big boy hockey. Too many hairdressers
"He is well fed!" 😂😂😂
NO HAT GUY, DONT BECOME A WILLIAM NYLANDER HATING UNCLE. YOU JUST RESIST IT
He’s been watching this team for at least 18 years. It’s already too late for him.😢
I'm already there, no defensive effort - bench em
It will take half a season for Berube to make a clear defining mark on this team... but it really seems that it will happen... this time.
Tre's gotta help
Both of their losses this year have been pretty forgivable for a change
give it time. they’ll have one that’ll drive you to the point of insanity. i’m just waiting for it.
@@DominicGibbs no kidding hahahaha
No loss by the Leafs are forgivable. Cause it just reiterates the norm.
You thought they were going to win all 82 games?@@a18yearoldonyoutubeluigi
@@DominicGibbs of course they will... every team has a few of those a year... just... this year can we NOT have it to a 42 YEAR OLD ZAMBONI DRIVER WHO WORKS FOR THE TEAM???
I don't think any Leafs fan can be mad about this game. Toronto dominated 50 minutes... Igor is easily the best goalie right now. More traffic needed? For sure. But this hyperbolic bs "AH JUST LIKE LAST YEAR" is insane lol
Ranger fan tuning in for the first time. Your delivery and content quite entertaining and enjoyable. Keep up the great work!!!
Let’s go Rangers from STL!!!
I predicted Shesterkin would actually shut them out ("prediction" =/= "what I want") so this feels like a partial Leafs victory.
Rangers should make use of IGOR'S THEME by Tyler, The Creator somehow
i know Igor had a great night, but I feel like it's getting slightly overrated - NYR was the better team through two periods. TOR had a great third period push - and Igor responded. but you can't play one period and win a game.
That’s about right. Apart from the first 5-7 minutes of the game, Leaf’s didn’t do a dangerous thing in the first two frames. They had some ozone time, but nobody was going to the net in any meaningful way. They wake up in the third and challenged a bit getting chances to tie it and go to OT, but as usual, too little too late.
John Tavares's 5G Amulet let us down tonight.
I didn’t expect them to win NY looked better played better defensively and there goalie was outstanding
Tonight showed me one thing, this team even with Berube might not be able to beat the high level opponents you'll see in April. Incredibly disappointed in them tonight.
This is what happens when you pay a bunch of kiddos championship money and they've won nothing.. One round doesn't count. Early rewards for expectations.. not results.. That's just STEALING the DEPOSIT. Coach B's biggest job will be unfucking that mentality
It's early. Let them catch their stride.
@@aspalovin similar thing I noticed with the Cowboys in the NFL. Playing players like Dak and CeeDee who have also done jack in the playoffs and are currently doing jack in the regular season.
@@craigharrison5406 leafs have made me lose my sense of patience.
@@craigharrison5406 They've had since 2016
The Problem with this time of year EVERY EFFING YEAR WITH THE LEAFS IS "OH WE'RE ALL SICK" EXCUSE! in October November HELLOO? U PLAY IN FUCKING CANADA! ITS COLD HERE! GET SOME GOD DAMN ORANGE JUICE IN YA!
😂😂
There have been like 5 teams that have been as good as the leafs and the rangers were one of them, can't win em all but it would have been nice to win this one
Just Igor bailing out the rangers again, it happens.
Refusing to shoot on a 3 on 1, and allowing the other team to set up and get a shot on net EVERY TIME THEY ENTER THE ZONE?
Stop this "goalied" bullshit.
Leafs fans the first 4 games : plan the parade!
Also Leafs fans after game 5 : ahhh it's early!
Holy cow that was quick
I like your avatar.. You could show the highlight reel of the loss on that $13 million forehead.
That " I'm taking crazy pills, with you, wherever you are " just hits a bit different after a leafs loss
Very early drop. Love it!
Leafs do a better job screening their own goalies than opponents' goalies.
They can be their own worst enemy
Reaves only played eight and a half minutes
Yeah but had 2 shifts in the final 5 minutes🤣
I dont think Marner has been 11-12M player so far. I hope he gets better.
Is he worth 11-12? Who knows really. I’d like to see him get an identical contract to Willy. That being said. When have you seen Mitch throw body checks, battle to the front of the net, or protect the puck like he’s been doing. I think the coaching style change has been great for him. I can’t wait to see where it goes
Knies gonna be 6m+. Tavares should be in the 3s
Knies worth it
Marner is your problem and now you can’t trade him. Leafs lose again.
I hadn't said "oh ffs" so many times during a game in awhile 😅Good times 💙See you at FCP in Dec!
Whenever the Steve's switch sides I question my entire life.
7:54 It’s because we’re the Ducks. We’re so laughably low tier (read as: still rebuilding) that winning a game (or winning during a game) is monumental.
I was at that game you mentioned. We won 4-3 in overtime and you did the one-shot wearing black because “at funerals, we wear black.” It was the LFR with the color clip. “It could be black, it could be blue, it could be green, it could be purple~”
Day 5 asking Steve to put "maximum Domi" in the intro
(It won't happen but it makes me feel better)
Pending UFA Shesterkin is about to give teams nightmares all season
Powerplay 1
Marner, Tavares, knies
OLE, Matthews
Powerplay 2
Nylander, domi, roberstson
Reilly, macmann
We have everything to be proud of tonight with their level of play in a full 60 minutes. They played hard and got goalied. This is a different leafs team folks! Nylander dug and back checked. Nuf said.
@ 13:15 "This tendency might be the number one thing keeping them out of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round in the playoffs...is their inability to score greasy goals...that don't look beautiful but like they're in the back of the net." ...Oh, like the Lafreniere goal that you dismissively hand waived away as a combo of puck luck and the Refs fault despite the fact that it came from strong forecheck pressure and an ability to stay on the puck hunt even when the plan to generate clean, pretty goals falls apart and you have to adjust and adapt...?...that goal that you not so subtly intimated that the Rangers didn't deserve..? Dude. You can't have it both ways. You just ripped the Leafs for not cashing in on broken plays, and scrambling around the net...right after deeming this same exact kind of scenario as 'cheap' or completely lucky because it went against your team. Normally, I really like your commentary and think you're making valid points but this some serious homer googles and it comes off pretty bitter. It's frankly not a great look.
I think you misunderstood. When Steve dismissed it, it wasn't because it was a bad goal or didn't deserve to count on the score sheet, because he wasn't doing commentary about the Rangers. He was evaluating the goal as a lesson for the Leafs.
I think you and I could agree that Steve could have highlighted the goal as the kind of thing the Leafs need to get good at - taking advantage of random events to get the greasy goals. But, in this case, I think he was specifically looking for commentary on the Leafs defensive play and finding no meat on the bone, and so dismissed it.
Lest we forget, he acknowledged on the podcast how Leafy it is to start the Cup parade planning because getting shut out on their first game hasn't happened since 1967, and the guy who got their first goal wears 67, so.... he's still a Leafs fan lol
steve on morgan rielly . . there are 2 rangers that he could take, he chose neither . . LOL . . . good video steve, one of your best
The problem is 44 Morgan Reily.
I can't wait to inevitably say Steve was right about Tavares. But so far im not seeing it as bad as Steve does.
I swear that was the shortest and longest 7 years of life
Igor out there showing why his team were Regular Seasons Champions last year.
Rangers were in Stolarz face , all night ! We need some of that !
As a hockey fan great game. As a Leaf fan well, all was good except for JT line…..
Same core.. same results...
Losing a hockey game......the sky is falling!
@@saskk2290 Let me know when they actually win a Stanley Cup with this core-or even make it to the third round, for that matter.
@johnkomas7629 so why even bother watching them now 😅?!
@@johnkomas7629 Given your uncanny skills of perception, I think you'll catch wind of it
You are right the Leafs should and could win at home for a place in the playoffs and for the fans also. Steve, you have a talent for entertainment. You have to talk on the sick podcast with Tony Maninaro.
Tavares right now is playing like 1.8M contract
two things:
One
Tavares - Pbbbllt -- take a seat
Reilly - Pbbbllt - when can we admit he is below average in his own end and has taken a step back offensively?
Two
Reffing - when are we going to have the talk? These guys are so transparent. We know exactly how they feel about how they are going to call the game vs one of the teams. I am sniffing more and more stink.
The leafs D men need to start protecting stolarz like they are secret service members.
it's gonna be so sweet when the leafs win the cup in 2027 and tavares is sitting on his couch, having missed the playoffs once more with the buffalo sabres.
The crowd was entertained and loud.
Leave Tavares out of the conversation, why isn't Knies on the PP1 anyway? He's an animal!
Robertson is lowkey good af at getting his own rebounds.
This loss, which wasn’t as bad as the final score made it seem, was no big deal. Probably a good yardstick to measure the team by. The best goalie in hockey did a number on them, and they got flustered. Time to check in with that, re-boot themselves and go forward re-energized.
As you pointed out, the first NYR goal was greatly assisted by the referee being out of position and blocking a good clearing attempt, and the team was playing well. But the more Igor denied them, the more they tried too hard, and screwed up.
Good to get that out of the way, early. It won’t happen again under Berube.
Contract year Igor baby
We got two giants. One from Alberta and the other from Finland. At least you solved your goalie issue.
You can view this two ways: one, aw we got goalied but played well and it’s early OR two, this is not all that different from what we already know in that the offense cannot get it done in close games
Please bring back the stiff pants walk to the intro. It’s all i ask in life
Not worried about the 1st or 4th lines sounds like watching the Boston forward group rn 😂
Damn rangers.
All we can look forward too is the inevitable bounce in the playoffs.
Tavares needs more Amulets!!!!!1!
This is such a Leafs result in my opinion. This is how they compare to a great team. Because they're gonna demolish the midfield, have the occassional stinker against terrible teams, and then lose to truly great teams. You need to beat those to win the cup. And the presence in front of the net... oof marone.
If they're playing the same way they did under the last coach, which is to say they refuse to get out in front and take a goalie's eyes away, they're never gonna win anything as a group. It's almost like the team needs more than a fancy new coach to consistently beat top teams. It's almost like they need a new identity on the roster as a whole, something the previous GM was gonna try and do but got fired before he could do by a guy above him that lacks the heart in the front office that he had as a player and a head of Player Safety. We'll see if Berube gets them to start playing like they should, but this is exactly what I figured would happen with virtually the same roster as last year.
Cracks me up after the leafs last win how all the arm chair experts say how great leafs goalie is. All i hear is crickets now
As a Red Wings fan who has been abused by Igor Shesterkin, I can fully relate to Leafs fans tonight.
Tavares's next contract should be 5 million at 2 years MAX. then address it in 2027, perhaps drop him to 3 million for 2 years and go like that til he retires.
JT’s next contract should be no more than 3 mil. Give him the stamkos offer
I understand the chances the leafs had were underwhelming, but the rangers were entering the offensive zone with ease I mean they were taking thier dogs for a walk in the offensive zone all night…way to easy! The leafs D needs to be way more aggressive on the puck carriers!
Shesterkin has been great for my fantasy
Igor got the Rangers starting role in the 2021-22 season idk where you get almost a decade from cause the math is not mathing
he said more than the last half decade which is still wrong but better
I don't understand why they don't try knies at center. Instead of insisting on Nylander playing center. Knies is a dog and plays hard. I want him to get a shot at center.
Man, this was such a slow burner. I was knocked of after 1,5 periods. Well it was almost tam in here then. Lol.
😂So, This might be a bad take but… Yeah the leafs lost thats bad
We got goalied again which is bad
We hit the post 182 times which is bad
But DAMN was that a fun game to watch 😂👀 So many chances very entertaining
Again I don’t know probably a bad take but Im just a dude 🙇🏻♂️
I'm starting to think that yelling *_"Just shoot the damn thing!!!!"_* and *_"Someone please... Go TO THE NET!!!"_* at the TV is a normal Leaf fan response every 15 seconds... so much so that I should probably put those on button-play to save my voice.
*_Chief won't change anything here._* If the boys didn't listen to Keefe, they aren't going to listen to Chief. And the sad thing is, that it doesn't even matter who you bring in new to the team because instead of them listening to the coach they too just play follow-the-leader and ignore the coach, rinse and repeat each game, each season, year after year.
Let's put it this way... *_I'll beleaf it when I see it._* We know that Keefe repeatedly told them to play the right way and to play in a way that would help them win in the playoffs, but even though they might do it for a shift or two, or a period or two, or even a game or two, the players just won't bloody well stick to it and drop their bad habits. You'd think that bringing in new players would help break that cycle, but no!!! they too pick up the bad habits of the team. It's amazing to watch from a human psychological experiment viewpoint, but otherwise painful and frustrating!!
Boys, break the cycle! drop the bad habits! Please, for the love of the hockey gods, crash the net (they did it multiple times to us and even knocked down our goalie with no penalty).
Oh and, can we finally now agree that it's time for Moe to go (saves a lot of money, too!)? If he's still playing like this with Tanev as his line mate, then nothing is ever going to change him making decisions (or lack thereof!) that lead to goals against!
The attitude problem is real, that's so on point. The thing with that is that it makes question putting the C on 34 even more. Best player, no question. Best captain? Heck no. Berube needs a guy on the inside, a driver of effort. That's not Matthews.
Oh and by the way, JT isn't that guy either.
Stupid. Matthew's effort is fine. Keeping Hyman would have been nice. Hyman-Matthews-Knies would be scary. They are all horses
@@saskk2290 Not saying Matthews effort isn't fine, just saying I doubt he's the captain the Leafs need right now. I'm not in that dressing room so I don't know, maybe 34 has grown. But Nylander saying "F-----' shoot it. Stop f-----' cryin', bro. This is the f-----' issue. You guys f-----' b---- about s---. Let's f-----' go!" indicates to me that maybe pinning the C on the best player instead of the best captain is the wrong move. I honestly don't know who would be better tho. If Reaves played a bigger role in the ice I think he would be more in line with what's needed from a captain right now. Might be a hot take, it is what it is. Either way, I'm more hopeful for the Leafs than I've been in a long while.
@jnsl1982 I simply don't think it's that important. Fodder for the media, but in the end, the team needs to come together, and peak at the right time. There is an element of luck involved
Steve your goalie robbed Kreider twice. Give him some credit.
I have early concerns. We didn't match up against a contender... I will admit I was busy and didn't focus on the game but We didn't win so the season is over.. trade everyone
That is my biggest concern, you have to take these games against contenders if you want to be seen as a legit threat, and that just didn't happen.
@@a18yearoldonyoutubeluigi For sure.. Early in the season with the new coach is forgivable but this is LEAFY stuff that can drag on throughout the season if not nipped in the BUD... Not beating the GOOD teams consistently is a problem... AND losing to the ''Buffalo's'' of the league is even worse.. Bring back Old Time Hockey and let Coach B grab a Sherwood PMP and beat the livin tar out of these overpaid, spoiled puds in the locker room!
Haha 😂
Igor gunning for the 8 by 12.5
For me, its only game 5... they are 3-2... they actually played a really good game, out shooting and out-chancing the Rangers by a LOT and just got robbed, like, absolute highway robbery by Shesterkin. Stolarz was amazing, when your goalie is regularly only allowing 2 goals with a .927 save % you are going to win 60 games a year. This was just one of those nights where nothing goes your way, its a long season, its gonna happen. They need get get Tavares off PP1 and replace him with Knies or McMann for a big netfront presence. For Tavares, he's now a 3rd line player and PP specialist, you dont pay guys like that more then 3-4M a year, even with his current play, I think Tre would be comfortable extending him 4 years at 3m.
Its pretty easy to see that the Rangers are a better balanced team ,probably 10-12 points better over 82 games .Toronto is still in that 2nd level and somewhere around 8th to 10th league wide but they are pretty far away from being a serious threat to win it all until they have a top 5 goaltender that can win those 3-2 and 2-1 games in the semis or the finals .
Who deserves the “Hard” chain this game?
They looked like they didn’t have drive, they need the eye of the tiger
Same type of game as the Montreal game. Many misses and shots hitting the goalie. Its almost like after the goalie makes a few good saves, he gets inside the Leaf players head. Old habits die hard., I guess.
I'm thinking Sheldon wasn't wrong by not playing Robertson all the time, lit it up pre season....disappeared ever since
And Grant is very funny also you will see on the sick podcast.
I'd almost rather watch oatmeal cook.
Canucks fan here its so early that all the sudden we look like a wagon lol from 0-1-2 to 2-1-2 basically what I'm trying to say everybody just chill
Im not having a great finger flick, steve :(
I feel better that leafs lost the night that the oilers . Both teams are better than that.
Favou please. I’m a Canadian living in the uk. Massive Leafs fan and fan of you. Any chance of having a more neutral pose on your channel as a starting image. Problem is that I rely on watching the highlights on TH-cam the following morning. Unless it’s playoffs of course. Then I’m suffering with the rest of Leafs Nation 😂😂😂. Just much later in the day like 3am or with OT until breakfast. So your opening pose is a spoiler
They need someone else to take faceoffs on the PP. But I just don't think that person exists. Matthews is very good at faceoffs but they'd have to completely redesign and relearn their PP if their main shooter takes it. You can't really move JT until the faceoff situation is sorted
i think Savard should go back to Taping Twigs with Savvy, cause at least the tapejobs for the Leafs will look good on their horrible power play.
35 29 shots BTW
steve if it makes you feel any better about jt miller in fantasy. I had marner playing and krider benched (because every player I had was playing and I have to bench someone) THANKS MARNER
Best team in the league don't over react
Lawl the leafs have you makeing excuse's for them now ....down 2 nothin in your barn on Saturday after time off...not ready ?wow glad we got a new coach makeing all the difference. Have i seen this before? big game against big team big loss