@@DeanCording Watching him use the lathe TO BUILD ITSELF absolutely did my head in. It's one thing to read about the development and construction of tool technology, and quite another to watch it happen. I love these videos.
Really cool video! Especially for a guy who has a 1906 Drummond Brothers lathe that I do all my turning on. Although I´m not into clockworks I love your videos. Therer´s always somrthing to learn!😀
wow...I must say, it's been probably 5 or so years since I've seen a video of yours!! I think time and hobby's and politics and life and everything else changes what people watch... SO glad to have you back the feed again!! Seems I have a lot of catching up to do!! WOW
One day, we'll see a video series where he bootstraps himself from ancient to modern lathe or CNC machine. It'll be like the Cutting Edge Engineering Australia series with the Franna crane: start with an old machine, and replace/upgrade every single part until you have a better/newer one.
Their minds were just as good as ours. I'm always amazed by people who think folks long ago 'could not' have done the things they obviously did do. What I always wonder is, what took them so long? What was the signal, or motivation, for modern humans, who've been around for over 250,000 years, to make the jump to agriculture, living in settled communities, and start the road to modern technology? And why did it not happen sooner? Thanks once again, Chris, for showing us how they could have done it 'back then'.
@@1471SirFrederickBanbury Not at all. They knew there would be benefits, just as you could imagine the benefits of new technologies. Why aren't you building a fusion reactor in your home? Or mining asteroids? What they lacked, and it's as true today as it was then, was access to the tools and materials that are the foundation of the next generation of tools and materials. Sure, a village could band together and support a toolmaker. Evidence shows that this did happen, many times; it just often didn't work out. It was too risky and delicate. Eventually, it took hold, and once a critical mass of tools and commerce were available, we saw the early civilisations. They too were risky and delicate, and broke.
Like I mention as a reply to the other guy, history seems to indicate that it likely wasn't possible to 'go faster'. Not for a lack of motivation were we slow, but more likely the physical realities of balancing the necessities of staying alive against the risk of failing in a new endeavor - and most did fail.
The signal, or motivation, was when the grasses ,such as wheat and maize, had the brilliant idea to use ancient humans to spread them around the earth and cultivate them in ideal conditions , eliminating their plant competitors. And all it cost the grasses was some excess seed.
I've always found it fascinating how we humans went from simple hand tools with essentially visible measurement accuracy to machine tools with sub-micron levels of precision.
Здравствуйте уважаемый! А почему бы вам не сделать привод токарного станка не ручной а ножной? Не нужно делать как у швейной машинки достаточно качающейся педали и реверсивного движения обтачиваемой детали. Принцип останется прежним. Только появится возможность оперировать двумя руками!
Hmm. But to single point thread, don't you need a leadscrew? So how to cut a leadscrew without already being able to do single point threading? Definitely a chicken-and-egg situation...
@@alanclarke4646 You can approximate a lead-screw with a rope-wrapped cylinder, or a diagonal blade cutting into a wooden cylinder. The first one won't be very strong, or accurate, but it can get you started.
Wonder how many more upgrades will be needed to get to a modernish lathe design, with a chuck and linear slides, leadscrew etc. I bet it was quite an ordeal to make that stuff for the first time, but once you have it it becomes easier. I'm especially curious about how the first proper thread was created.
So I was just imagining using something similar for bone pens and pencils. Could also do wood. Or just make a solid brass/copper pen. Is the a foot rocker to power the spindle?
You need insane patience to do that. Knowing that it can be done effortlessly on a modern machine in a few minutes, but taking hours over it. I know that it's important to prove that it can be done, I just don't want to be the one who does.
When I saw the wird "ancient", I was thinking in regular TH-cam terms. So something from the late 1800s. Silly me. This isn't regular TH-cam. It's Clickspring.
Fascinating as the process of creating sophisticated tools with simple tools is the beginning of modern technology.
looks a lot better than what HTME is knocking together.
The best machine in the world is made using the second best machine in the world
@@DeanCording Watching him use the lathe TO BUILD ITSELF absolutely did my head in. It's one thing to read about the development and construction of tool technology, and quite another to watch it happen. I love these videos.
This might be my favorite Clickspring video. In my head, I often think about the process of using the tool to refine itself.
Almost perfect! Only DRO is missing.
Dinosaur Read Out?....this is Fred Flintstone's lathe 🤣
Didn't you see? His digits were in practically every shot!
impressive, the quality work you can achieve with such simple hand tools! Well done, Chris!
Really cool video! Especially for a guy who has a 1906 Drummond Brothers lathe that I do all my turning on. Although I´m not into clockworks I love your videos. Therer´s always somrthing to learn!😀
Absolutely amazing. Building the tools that make tools.
wow...I must say, it's been probably 5 or so years since I've seen a video of yours!! I think time and hobby's and politics and life and everything else changes what people watch... SO glad to have you back the feed again!! Seems I have a lot of catching up to do!!
WOW
I think you need to hook up with this old Tony and use his time machine again.😁🤪
how many hours of hand powered lathing is this 5 minute video?
Probably 5 hours, on a modern machine it would be done in the time of the video. I'm a patient man, but I know my limits!
One day, we'll see a video series where he bootstraps himself from ancient to modern lathe or CNC machine. It'll be like the Cutting Edge Engineering Australia series with the Franna crane: start with an old machine, and replace/upgrade every single part until you have a better/newer one.
One day you'll have ballscrews and stepper motors on that thing!
🤣🤣🤣
He gets a much better surface finish on his primitive lathe than me on my swiss made lathe....
Their minds were just as good as ours. I'm always amazed by people who think folks long ago 'could not' have done the things they obviously did do. What I always wonder is, what took them so long? What was the signal, or motivation, for modern humans, who've been around for over 250,000 years, to make the jump to agriculture, living in settled communities, and start the road to modern technology? And why did it not happen sooner?
Thanks once again, Chris, for showing us how they could have done it 'back then'.
probably misreading of cost vs benefit that lead people to stick with what they knew best until proved wrong.
@@1471SirFrederickBanbury Not at all. They knew there would be benefits, just as you could imagine the benefits of new technologies. Why aren't you building a fusion reactor in your home? Or mining asteroids? What they lacked, and it's as true today as it was then, was access to the tools and materials that are the foundation of the next generation of tools and materials. Sure, a village could band together and support a toolmaker. Evidence shows that this did happen, many times; it just often didn't work out. It was too risky and delicate. Eventually, it took hold, and once a critical mass of tools and commerce were available, we saw the early civilisations. They too were risky and delicate, and broke.
Like I mention as a reply to the other guy, history seems to indicate that it likely wasn't possible to 'go faster'. Not for a lack of motivation were we slow, but more likely the physical realities of balancing the necessities of staying alive against the risk of failing in a new endeavor - and most did fail.
Yep, just took longer, but also needed to be more precise with the limited resources.
The signal, or motivation, was when the grasses ,such as wheat and maize, had the brilliant idea to use ancient humans to spread them around the earth and cultivate them in ideal conditions , eliminating their plant competitors.
And all it cost the grasses was some excess seed.
Sensational, excellent work!
👏👏👏👏👏
I've always found it fascinating how we humans went from simple hand tools with essentially visible measurement accuracy to machine tools with sub-micron levels of precision.
Fantastic work.
Too bad Chris isn't talking,he has such calming voice.
Tool and material evolution in one place.
Very very nice.
Fantastic work. Keep going and soon we’ll have a precision Colchester lathe to look at!
Always love watching you Chris. I think I subscribed back when you started the clock before the antikethura device? Spell check someone lol😅
That large skeleton clock was a thing of beauty, but then, everything Chris makes is.
@alanclarke4646 I loved that skeleton clock he made. It convinced me I wanted to become a machinist and now I own my own little shop.
Magnificent!
Beautiful work
Según usted, Cómo se hizo el primer tornillo en este tipo de tornos antiguos?
Do not let the guy from Primitive Technology see this video. Between the two of you guys could re-create civilization out in that jungle!
They actually both live in the same part of Australia.
@@DeanCording
OMG! 😳
That wouldn't surprise me too much. Now if I only had the time and effort to learn half of this stuff.
That was fascinating!
Mesmerizing as always.👍😎
Здравствуйте уважаемый!
А почему бы вам не сделать привод токарного станка не ручной а ножной? Не нужно делать как у швейной машинки достаточно качающейся педали и реверсивного движения обтачиваемой детали. Принцип останется прежним. Только появится возможность оперировать двумя руками!
Brilliant
Could you please tell me what it is that you have the charcoal fire burning in that I see in a lot of you videos? Love your content!
I think it's just a basic Hibachi style brazier. I am sure Chris will correct me if I am wrong.
Amazing.
I sincerely wonder if the path leading to the first lathe could be recreated?
That being said, next episode ancient lathe thread cutting 🤪👈
Hmm. But to single point thread, don't you need a leadscrew? So how to cut a leadscrew without already being able to do single point threading? Definitely a chicken-and-egg situation...
use jsut gears to move the carrage to make the first screw
@@alanclarke4646 You can approximate a lead-screw with a rope-wrapped cylinder, or a diagonal blade cutting into a wooden cylinder. The first one won't be very strong, or accurate, but it can get you started.
Wonder how many more upgrades will be needed to get to a modernish lathe design, with a chuck and linear slides, leadscrew etc.
I bet it was quite an ordeal to make that stuff for the first time, but once you have it it becomes easier. I'm especially curious about how the first proper thread was created.
So I was just imagining using something similar for bone pens and pencils. Could also do wood. Or just make a solid brass/copper pen. Is the a foot rocker to power the spindle?
He's using a bow with the string wrapped around with a single twist.
Mr Clickspring needs to do a collab with Mr Primitive Technology
Gonna make a lathe just like this
Two jaw chuck
Now we know how Archimedes made the star tracking computer two thousand years ago
How long does the string last?
What’s the wood? I assume ebony but want to know for sure.
I wonder about scaling it up to something similar to a treadle lathe.
Предположим, что он знал что хочет получить. Сколько неудачных попыток осталось за кадром?
You need insane patience to do that. Knowing that it can be done effortlessly on a modern machine in a few minutes, but taking hours over it. I know that it's important to prove that it can be done, I just don't want to be the one who does.
how did they thread?
The very first Colchester Student lathe.
I need to make a tool. Why? To make a tool to make a tool. Why? To make a tool to make a tool to make a tool.
Yesss I love this shit
😎👍
😊
Lathe bootstrapping.
Это уже высокий уровень, я ещё напильник не могу сделать
Treadle?
Next up: ancient lathe repowered with an ox.
❤️🔥🫂❤️🔥
A lot of work to demonstrate that a poor workman blames his tools.
When I saw the wird "ancient", I was thinking in regular TH-cam terms. So something from the late 1800s.
Silly me. This isn't regular TH-cam. It's Clickspring.