HOI4 Norway Is STILL Broken in 2024 After 4 MONTHS!
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- Oh man this needs to be fixed
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Love your videos!💚
ny gaards vold is how you say the word you didnt want to say btw
Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod would be fun to see. Please? It would really make my day. =^x^=
Play TNO with Sablin, bring the wholesomeness
I'm Norwegian (born in Tønsberg), and gave you a like. I don't even play the game, but I really enjoyed the video. Stumbeled upon it because I'm Norwegian, and we all are very self consious, thus clicking on anything related to our beloved Norway... And we finally managed to conquer Sweden and Denmark (again) through you
The Norwegian tree is also able to just ask Ireland to give up all of Leinster including Dublin (Dyflin) so that Cork becomes the capital of Ireland.
For those unaware many Corkonians claim the city to be the real capital of Ireland.
Your from Cork aren't you
Hell nah i aint going to the hellhole known as cork💀
Hell on earth
Petition to change to capital to cove/ queens town home of many immigrants and used as a stop over port for ships since the 1800s
What the heck? Maybe this is how we can tell that Paradox is Swedish; by giving Norway such a broken (not in the fun way) focus tree
It's probably the reason, seeing as how Sweden is one of the most OP nation in the game and even Danmark is quite decently powerfull in all it's different path..
Then Denmark would be the weakest nation in the game, But Sweden is awful to fight against as Denmark.
Monarchist Norway was a viable tree till they removed the political power you get from completing the decisions. Now Norway is no fun to play at all.
I was so disappointed that I did not buy the DLC.
With South American DLC I got the same dissapointment. "Spirit of the Conquerors" as if Chile and Argentina were the same to Spain. Specially for a fascist path, which are the most "patrotic".
That tells us 1)how many... how few people play Norway; 2)AI doesn't know about their own features. And considering AI was designed for vanilla, mechanics of which are mostly extinct, it's a miracle it still functions at all. Though it not interacting with supply depots and railways may be a sign that it has growth trouble😅
I would guess that Paradox tried to update them for the new supply system, but the AI just kept doing stupid things. I could imagine that the AI would spam useless railroads and supply hubs everywhere instead of building factories. The supply system is fairly well designed to be able to ignore it, you could play the game just fine and never build or upgrade a railway or mess with the supply hubs. It was probably a choice between leaving the AI alone, having it be stupid, or a complete ground up redesign of the AI (not going to happen for a 7 year old game, that would take way too much time and money).
AI is the reason I dont play this game. Last time I played as siam, the british decided to move all its army to british raj and as a result it got annexed by germany. I feelt like I wasted several hours for nothing.
The AI does build railroads to supply hubs if they are unconnected.
I don't know if they upgrade railroads though.
Bro the real vikings is in denmark not norway
I miss Volvo vrooms 😔
Monarchist Norway is OP. You can unify the Nordics by early 38’, take over and core UK fairly quick depending on circumstances, and build multiple armies of ultra buffed mountaineers
Yes but it is still hard for new players
I played Finland, it was op, the rest of the scandinavian countries seem just as, if not more op
Thank you! I have been struggling with this path for so long now. I have waited for this expansion pack for Norway for almost 10 years and I have played all the paths. I really like the communist paths, and the democtratic ones are HARD. I am still struggling to even unite Scandinavia.
Some things I picked up:
-Hire the manpower advisor as soon as you have the pp. I mean right at the beginning. Since u are going "democratic" anyway he will not disappear, and you will enjoy 15000-30000+ extra manpower after 2-4 years. When it comes to garrisoning sweden before coring this is huge.
-In all other paths you get to remove "obsolete forces" quite early through decisions or revolutions, but in this path it seems that you can only do the army focus and it takes way to much time. It doesnt make any sense since the very gig of the alt demo path is armed preparedness and strength, yet the army is obsolete for years of war until you can finally do the focus. Alot more of them should be 35 days or the preparedness / development / revolution decisions should be heavily reworked or just changed to a very simple and rewarding balance of power system like in literally every other content nation.
They fixed it, the decision now refers to preparedness and has an alternative, much easier to fulfill condition, being at war for at least 3 months (a reasonable time to acquire real army experience).
Not sure when they did it. Hope you found out on your own, if not now you know.
I think someone accidentally knocked into the Norwegian flag and made it crooked.
1:47 yeah, that almost translates to “new garden violence”
By the way, it would’ve been safe because double A is the same as Å (which is pronounced like “oh” but you cut it off halfway through)
26:18 the supply consumption, one is kind of funny. It translates to participation metal
Makes Sense that you would know what it means
Nei, nå er det noen som ikke kan gammel stavemåte. Johan Nygaardsvold vokste opp på en husmannsplass som het Nygårdsvollen i Malvik kommune. Gård er ikke en hage og Vold/Voll er en gressgrodd slette.
No, someone does not know the old ways of spelling. Johan Nygaardsvold grew opp on a rented farmstead called Nygårdsvollen i Malvik County. Gård/Gaard does not mean Garden (but farm/farmstead) and Vold/Voll means a grasscovered field. (The more correct translation of the name is Johan from the New Farmstead on the/with the Grassgrown Field)
The only word I know in Norwegian is the curse word 'Faen' (I don't know how it is typed and doesn't mean to hurt your or anybody's feeling saying this). It ain't much but I'll maybe use it instead of 'Scheisse' I'm used to say when I want to curse but doesn't want to say it in my native/first language (it's Hungarian) if there's a reason, like children are near😅
@@LastGoatKnightfaen is basically fuck (can’t be used in a sexual manner)
@@LastGoatKnight You have typed it correctly and 'Faen' is a curseword, somewhere between 'Damn' and 'Fuck' in severity. It is the short version of the word 'Fanden', which in Christian times was used for the Devil, but in pre-Christian times was used for an enemy. The word is related to the english word 'Fiend'. (same root word in Indo-European)
The fact that Paradox is realeasing a new DLC before fixing this is just absurd.
And yet; also completely expected.
@@WuCSquadI mean that's what they've been doing ever since the 2nd? 3rd? DLC, Waking the Tiger was horribly broken for a long time (and still probably is)
They have always done that.
Norway certainly got stiffed in this DLC when you compare it to all the wonderful things in Sweden's and Finland's focus trees.
In what way?
All the Nordics have their problems, with Norway and Finland being at the end of centuries of outsider rule, and between the two of them Norway hasn't been on the frontline of all of Sweden's and Russia's many wars and doesn't have a strong martial tradition. That and the hard thirties were hard I heard.
If you're talking about the focus tree, then the Norwegian one is nice with multiple paths for Democratic, Communist and Fascist runs.
@@Jo-Heike The option to remove the massive army debuff isn't available once you go to war, so if you don't complete the focus and political options before then you're stuck with until the end of the game. It makes no sense to work like that.
@@MarkGFL They fixed that. You don't have to get 15 preparedness to Modernize your army, you can take the decision after having been at war for 3 months. Getting to 15 preparedness during peace is still an option, but not the only way anymore.
@@Jo-Heike Thats good to hear.
@@MarkGFL Does that make Norway less stiffed?
Yay! Norway content!
NNNNNOOOOOORRRRRRRWWWWAAAAAYYYYYY
Looking at it from the end of the video, it seems to be more a case of Norway discontent.
Nor Way he's playing Norway
It may sound weird, but if your plan is to snake to VPs with cavalry, you have a huge front and you outnumber the enemy divisions, then I'd suggest putting your cavalry on cautious to prevent them attacking enemy divisions and then just giving them a garrison order on enemy territory with focus on VPs. Instrad of giving them manual order to move. Micro is always better, but you can't do it all the time.
Was literally looking for something to do and this popped up
There's a very good path as the Yale Rectorate in Equestria at War. It's about resurrecting one of the most important figures in Griffonian History. It's in my opinion one of the best paths in the mod!
Go down the supremacust tree and do Project Auferstehung and you shall see a very important figure from Griffonian history!
By the way whether The Griffonian Empire goes with a certain fellow by the name of Dawnclaw or not decides how the focus tree ends and who controls the nation. So whichever way you want it to end, you should decide if the Empire should go with him or not in the game rules. If you want one, more than the other! I wish you good luck in reconquering the whole continent as it should have been many centuries ago!
They fixed it. You can now modernize the army if you have been at war for 3 months, as well as if you have the patience to gather 15 preparedness.
Does the preparing go away still, stopping you from developing further? Or can you actually go up to the 15 preparedness even towards the end finally?
@@overjee No Preparing for WAR still mostly go away once you have gone to War. You still have the option to use your preparedness for Economic Relief Measures, as well as deploying your preparedness while your actually at war for production bonuses, training time reductions, defense or offense bonuses.
What changed is that you don't have to get 15 preparedness to modernize the army anymore, it's an option but you can also just spend 3 months at war, and then modernize the army without having 15 preparedness, you just need 200 convoys, and 60 cp, so you can take the decision twice and then it's gone for ever.
So either you prepare, and go into conflict with a modern army, or you can get into some early war(s) (for example with Denmark and Sweden) where you Modernize the army during said war(s).
Why does stakuyi look like someone tried to draw Leonardo Di Caprio from memory while his mind was on DarkViperAU ???
I'd like to mention that from Squash Dissent you get a *political advisor* who gives you the equivalent army experience of an expert army chief. You can stack that XP gain, which is kind of wild.
I think you misunderstand, Jonas Lie is both a political adviser and a Chief of Army option, but he only grants army experience when employed as the Chief of the Army (only possible as fascist), so it's not possible to stack the army exp.
Really hope the devs see this. Or someone within pdx that can forward the message of what is broken
It's been debated to death in the forums. Unfortunately, there is no firm promise to fix it soon by paradox.
They don't care. They already have your money.
Nothing is broken
It's fixed in the current version, you can now do the decision after having been at war for at least 3 months.
Keep up with the amazing work, love from Norway
You shouldn't use preparedness until you reform the army.
I think... the nono word you fear is actually spoken like 'Nygoshvol' with the double a being a sound between a / o and with the 'y' like in 'typical'
exactly
For what it's worth, the (non-Soviet) communist path seems to be broken too: once you switch you have no access to an army chief of staff, so you can't generate army XP.
You can always use the Professional Officer Corps Spirt of the Army, and/or grind some experience the old fashion way (by sending volunteers, etc). You are also able to level Jacob Hviden Haug to skill level 4 and promote him to a field marshal so that you can give him an officer corps role.
Ya know Stak, I would live to see you do a video about Norway’s history from its independence from Sweden to its current state.
new video, new request for a blind Old World Blues NCR Playthrough 🙏
we have to remember the game was made by sweedish paople aka will allways do everyting to f Norway. yes historcly the situation was baaaad. but paradox made it just a little bit more. feel free to contact me. id be more then happy to help you whit the Norwegian words haha
Hello Stak last stream I was asking you about Noway. Apparently you made a video a few days before that about it lol!
Is it wrong for me to point out the ground news segment pointed at a video that was 5 months old as new
Video idea- a game that you yourself would have a blast playing no rules requirements or headache especially with the new updates I’m sure you’ve found many new ways to play in your own way much love!!
Love the Norway content.
A very simple change would all it take for paradox to fix this decision, one idea being that as norway if you win a war and you are at peace you simple bypass the 15 developent and only have to pay the 100 convoys. another idea is if you are still alive by say 1940 making it so that if your in a eternal war your not stuck with shit units for the whole game.
They did something slightly better, you just have to have been at war for 3 months to take the decision.
I get why it can be frustrating..but it also kinda makes sense..after going to war..you are prepared you no longer need to prepare..so it makes sense why it's looked out..dumb but makes sense
Chechnya has a new focus tree in millenium dawn and even has a war tree that offers the ability to white peace or even spark a rebellion in dagestan and continue. It has multiple paths and I think now it's doable and would be a nice video. Day 1
Something similar happens with the monarchy path as well.
Bad Boy Blues
Suggesting Evil Karma Arroyo (Day 2)
Keep up the great work stak
video two of asking you to play comoros in millennium dawn yes they do have a focus tree
8:40 the EaW is bleeding through
Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod would be fun to see. Please? It would really make my day. =^x^=
Please do the new order kamchatka with its own submod
As Norwegian Ive played Norway a lot, and honestly If you want my advice on it. Just focus heavily on internal development first and formost as Norway even as alternative democratic path. Than join the allies and than attack Denmark and Sweden. But generaly most powerful paths for Norway militarily is the monarchist path (which gives you nice buffs for army and population) or industry in case of the historical democratic democratic path. Of course historical path means less actual expansion but its very fun to play as a challenge when the nazis attacks you
Oh - one fun fact: The act that lead to Norways independence was incredible.
Because it basically went like the two stoic bearded guys meme.
"Hey - Sweden... would you mind if we became independent?" - "No. Go ahead."
No war, no unrest, just a few letters and some official act.
So basically the same way it went for Canadian independence the UK just agreed to let Canada become independent
I like the 'Tre raske menn' version better.
Unionsoppløsningen!
I 1905 er Norge nå lei av Sverige og utfordrer til kamp;
Nor: stein, saks, hurraaaaaa!
Swe: HELVETE!
@@GwainSagaFanChannel I guess.
How much power did the Swedish monarchy really have in 1905?
It was a bit more complicated than that, and in fact military forces were deployed quietly on both sides of the border. However, due to the massive public support for independence, Sweden conceded in fear of being ousted by the international community. This is worth a read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_union_between_Norway_and_Sweden#Karlstad_negotiations
Stacked Cookies with another great video
Never been this fast to a video before
They could easily fix this if they just: A-Restore the development buttons after war; B-Add an Or: has united scandanavia.
So I have a question, what was the difference in tank combat between both pacific and European theaters?
Japan was not known for their great tanks back then, although they did have them, and used them in small numbers (as far as I remember). Americans had their iconic tanks, but again amphibious landings are not best suited to tanks.
Germany, France, UK and USSR were all known for their tanks, although Germany and USSR had the most notable tank battles of the war.
I am sure if you google correctly, or search on youtube you'll find some answers. There's several TH-camrs that talk a lot about armored warfare.
Well when the Monarchy path came out I did it and ended up with 0 wars support because of its the monarchies own version of develop the country
Norway gaming
Good call on skipping the pronunciation there in the beginning. Don't want to summon the excess baggies of hardware Sweden hides away from Ikea. :D
I wonder if this behavior could be fixed in a mod while we wait for PDX to fix it?
New Fall out Old world blues 5.0 video when!?
Stakuyiii your forklift certified!!!!!
Also
Beese churger
Ice pick lomobotomy? That's my 5th favorite cannibal corpse song
can u play any off the nordic countrys and form scandinavia/nordic union in Millennium Dawn
Just a reminder stak that you don't need to use your excited voice. Maybe I've just gotten acclimatized to you normal deeper voice but it sounds like you are using that excited voice, which isn't a bad thing. Just reminding you that we love what you do, and that you shouldnt feel the need to fake your voice for us
I hope this will get fixed soon
Why did Norway’s flag tilt at 19:38
Norwegian War Cabinet, it's a rebranding from the Consolidate Power focus tree.
Play Cold War iron curtain
Episode 2 of asking for you to do the uk new empire tree in millennium dawn
There is Norway the devs still have fixed this!!
Idek what this comment was trying say
I notice that Norway has far more medals than Denmark or Germany.
Hello stak
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Play Barrad Magocracy in EaW.
you should rename your channel to stacked cookies
Video 68 of requesting stakuyi to play Magna Europa
Take a shot challenge...everytime you hear "Broken" ...
Wow I have never been this early before
Nobody is going to talk about what happened to the flag half way into the video.
for any one wants to skip the sponsor go to 4:41
Yeah paradox needs to fix this
I was dissapointed with how broken it was as I was very excited. My family was involved in the war is several ways (though probably not in any signifigant way) and hoped to see some history like milorg, the norwegian fleet and the children of nazi soldiers.
Tbf, im not good at the game which made it even more difficult at some points too.
do love the dlc its fun new mechanics but. norway was less fun then iceland in alot of playthroughs and honestly would think their focuses and history in this time would be more fun. (big brother meme and all that)
am i missing something 50(days)/7x1 is less than 60(days)/7x1 so youre GAINING stability, not much but you get something like +1-2, aand it still costs the political power and convoy ofc
Next idea Only BOAT
Remember Narvik
Now I can eat my food and watch something 😅
regular paradox behavior
Could you please play austria? Pretty please
i mean maybe the tree doesnt want you to invade anyone before fixing your contry but why give the option then and why not tell the player anywhere that it works like that...
Who’s excited for the new South America DLC
MAN FROM ACROSS THE SEA SCARED OF RED NUMBERS!! (i understand tho)
Nygaardsvold is pronounced nee-gords-vold btw for future reference ;)
Also it means "new-farms-violence" or something...
Hail the Alfather!
Do zombie pony and conquer the world
At 19:11 that guy's portrait no joke looks like a cleaned up version of Anders Breivik.
Not the most desirable Norwegian man.
nygård is pronounced exactly how you think, to be clear
Paradox releases and charges for broken content that they're content to leave broken. It's one of the reasons I don't play base game anymore.
Nygaardsvoll isn't pronounced anywhere near what you think it is :)
Am i dumb i dont get the joke or innuendo in the word help pls😢
The word sounds like the n word
Day 5 for asking to play bormann route in tno
I hate the flag, name and colour that Norway gets with the "Consolidate power" focus. That's SO ugly.
That's SOOOOOOOOO ugly. Couldn't we just have normal Norway ?
Little bit late, but day 2 of asking stakuyi to play Canada with any mod
play TNO Sablin, be wholesome 100
1 hour gang
i cried laughing when you ducked showing the word you wouldn't pronounce
I love playing sweden because you can just go fascist or monarch and ask denmark finland and norway if they want to become a puppet and if you just have diplomatic pressure and improv relations they just say yes and then you can just integrate them so you could form "det stornordiska riket" or "nordic unity" so it is pretty easy to integrate them as sweden🙂
Video #47 of asking you to please play the TNO Mod
So thats why... Norway is just shit to play. This really does hurt my pride as a Norwegian
Why?
This is a really fun path, why is this here?
It would be so easy to fix, WHY?
PewDiePie will be proud of Paradox😂