What if Alexander the Great lived in 1936?
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A guide for HoI4 Battle for the Bosporus as Greece now with up to 200% more debt!
Following the steps laid out in this guide will help you to restore for the Macedonian Empire and restore the dread of Alexander the Great!
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Congratulations on getting it done! This is by no means an easy challenge, even following my guide :) It really requires a lot of attention to detail, micro skill and resilience to not give up after the AI does stupid things like random guarantees that shouldn't happen. A few things I'd like to discuss about the video:
2:21 - Quality of ships DOES matter, a good battleship could provide 4 or 5 times more naval supremacy than a basic sub. The reason for going for sub 1 is that they are way more cost efficient, as they provide more naval supremacy per IC, I explain this in further detail in my video :)
I think joining the Axis to invade UK is an interesting an idea, but a very risky one at that. Yes, it does allow you to skip the war against Spain, but at the cost of relying a bit too much in the AI, since the North Sea tends to be more guarded than the Western Approaches and you rely on the German navy not being obliterated and helping you out, and also, it gives Italy the option to be free of your chains and go wild in Africa, creating a lot more warscore and risking your options of getting the territories you need in the peace deal since they also occupy it. But then again it might be that I have been screwed one too many times by the AI to place any reliance on it :D
And finally, about the Yugo peace deal, I wholeheartedly recommend to not leave any form of Yugo or Serbia alive and being your puppet unless of course you are completely commited to follow the Axis strategy and stay with them for the rest of the game. Germany WILL declare on you because of this, every single time, given the opportunity. It's better to just annex them, you won't hurt your manpower on resistance because as soon as you get Romania and puppet them, you can get garrison support and they'll give you enough to not use any of your own. Also, nicer borders :)
Great video!
I like the time and effort you put into this game, I would love to reply with your kind of detail and cleverness, but I can’t, I just hope I meet you on multiplayer one day so that I can cry myself to sleep while your greece kills my germany
what happened to all of your videos?
@@strke5972 I was just wondering that myself.
@@manaintolerantmage TH-cam probably privated them or he removed them for copyright reasons.
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A reminder: Alexander the Great conquered all this in only 12 years, and this was before modern transportation (Obviously).
what a chad
Alexander the Great researched CAS I'm sure of it
He had air superiority
he had hella submarines
He made 14/4s while the rest had 7/2
23:00
Royal navy: Hey what are doing in our waters?
Greek Destroyers: We're laying mines
Royal navy: ...why?
Greek Destroyers: because we're at war with Bulgaria
Royal navy: understandable have a great day
I agree it makes total sense
I mean Bulgaria does have a coast. A Naval invasion, while incredibly unlikly to happen, COULD happen
@hi_4۴I_am_depressed
"Improve opinion with the Soviets"
>Clicks on justify war goal
Stalin knows what I really meant
@@Bitt3rSteel that would be a hilarious diplomatic crisis.
Was literally about to comment that lol
@@toddhoward3846 "Sir the Greeks are justifying war"
"Why?"
"Let me ask them"
"They said they meant to improve relations not justify war"
Orks only understand strength.
37:09 "We are immediately going to improve opinion with soviets" *presses justify war goal*
I didn't even realize that 😂
Finally someoene covers this everyone else just does byzantium and the ottoman empire
Big props to @Spaniard tho. He is the real mastermind
They’re the fun ones
This was so forgotten path that I recreate it on my own and now I see that my suffer was unnecessary
@@Bitt3rSteel hatlespider did it first
Maybe, but I haven't seen it. I owe a lot to Spaniard
The *most* disappointing part about naval invading hull in all of the UK invasion is not one time I’ve seen a joke about breaching the hull, it makes so much sense but I’ve never heard one
Love it, because bittersteel feels like it requires the most skill because he doesn’t do crazy cheats or exploits and is efficient while doing it
Agreed. I used to watch taureor but seeing order 66 for the hundredth time is lame although I do understand some challenges require it to be possible, cheesing the game mechanics makes the whole challenge kinda boring
And its not that he doesn't know them. In his recent germany/ eu video he went all-in with exploits ;-)
All for the cause of Democracy, of course
@@lamowkachow4597 yeah i LOVE Taureor and using order 66 is cool and fun but i hate when he does It almost every single time
@@luk-128 what’s order 66?
Came not at the call of the bell, but at the call of my heart
That's deep, yo
13:40
The new DLC is just broken, if you do the investment options as Turkey most of the time the "AI" doesn't respond or you get the event months or even years later. Especially Turkey's focus tree has a lot of events where the AI has to respond and just doesn't want to do it haha
So even the AI hates the Turks?
The only Greek investment that always works is the Trade Ship Parts with the British one, they almost always say yes.
@@rps215 I'm a bit late for this one but they often respond to most of the "Buy X from the British" decisions. At least for me they've responded 'Yes' almost every time except for the Tanks one but I only did that one twice, I usually just buy guns from them.
@@robertalaverdov8147 cope
@@robertalaverdov8147 no your just racist
Fun fact: this formable is literally just the Persia one, except you have cores on Greece because you already start with them
i mean...Alexander the great just conquered persia... persia and also greece was what his empire was
@@quuirrel19_-sz9pjYes but the Persian Empire was actually slightly larger than his because the Persians ventured further into Central Asia while Alexander was more focused on going to India
@@awonisgreat9708No.. Alexander conquered ALL the persian territories and didn’t go to war with anyone else, so he was basically just the persian empire on top of the greece he already had from Phillip 2
Bitter, you make me suffer so much. Because of you, instead of playing majors on the beginning (100h in game?), I play minors to watch the world burn and tear apart all these pesky commies and painters with moustaches.
Great respect to you from Polandball for top-quality content.
POLAND CAN INTO SPACE!
Im a commie😐
@@surda2870 I am from Poland. We basically have all reasons in the world to hate commies
@@DShazin well im from serbia former yugoslavia witch under tito was the Best communist country
@@DShazin nice to see a fellow slav
@@surda2870 now it makes sense. I understand why you are commie. Well... Tito made Balkans powerful.
I saw greece and I tapped the notification at light speed
th-cam.com/video/CbCls4c4_dc/w-d-xo.html hehe
Name checks out
As a Chinese is happy to see that the Grace finally take back Constantinople!We hate the Turks for blocking our aircraft carrier (today Liaoning aircraft carrier）purchased from Ukraine for years from go through the bosporus strait.
@@davidchan3238 what happened in 1989 in T1an3Nman 5qVar3?
@@nonautemrexchristus5637 I don’t know it’s way before my time I was born in 1999 But my relative that’s living in Beijing say that they hear gun shot In Tiananmen square during that time but didn’t see what actually happened so unless my government declassified relevant file recorded the event before then we will never know
Wow, originallity in HOI4? Now, I've seen it all.
19:03 there is also option that leads to "Spazio Vitae" (Italy creates faction and greece instantly joins)
Commenting again for the algorithm because this channel is underappreciated.
th-cam.com/video/CbCls4c4_dc/w-d-xo.html XDDD
ok same
@@polskibambolino5860 th-cam.com/video/xfr64zoBTAQ/w-d-xo.html XDDD
Same here. 😎👍
I like the description lol
“Now with up to 200% more debt!”
>slaps the roof the Peloponnese
"This baby can fit more debt than you'd believe!"
_Laughs in Argentinian economy_
Greece reformed the South American empire, as far as debts talks lol
As a Greek seeing this vid i found it hilarious....it's pure madness....i just imagine a Drunk Greek suddenly appearing before Hitler saying: 'Listen this is what we are going to do... ' +1 from and a sub keep up the good work!
congrats bro, thank you for covering the Macedonian empire not much people know about it and it sure of an challenge! I watch every moment with baited breath and I will be trying out more greece(Pain) on my own in HOi4
How are you just at 18k? You're one of the best hoi4 channels on TH-cam. Great video my man. Hopefully adding a comment, gets your channel into the algorithm
Your guides are all the rage in some hoi4 Facebook groups! Love your content, your knowledge and enthusiasm!
Wow, thanks!
Very concise, you get straight to the point and add some jokes here and there! Great video as always
After Greece, I have a real challenge for you. Their archnemesis for thousand of years. The persian Empire, but with a twist ! You got to stay non aligned, to keep the Pahlavi dynasty in power ! :D
Even worse… Afghanistan.
@@AlphiumProductions with afghanistan I manage to take iran quite easily, just let iranian troop enter your territory in the obvious trap you made, and use your weird tank unit to break through. Ofc after taking Iran, deletze the tank unit, you don't have enough production to keep it strong
I followed along and got to justifying on Yugo, and just at the end Italy started justifying as well and the U.K. guaranteed them, so I called it quits since I'm definitely not skilled enough yet to take them on like you. I finished the video though because I absolutely wanted to see what would happen and besides Spaniard, I haven't heard of anyone making any content on how to achieve this. Thank you and congrats on actually pulling this off!
I like how they make you earn it, like Alexander did. With superior soldiers and tactics, from little Greece to big Empire.
Although, I'd like to be able to grow it little by little like the bizantines, because you are very limited in manpower.
Yeah, the manpower is the biggest challenge.
Greek Macedonia is blue... The red flagin the thumbnail is an illegal flag (outlawed by EU) that flew by FYROM.
I’m Greek and I don’t give a shit about the Color.
@@KaiokenRushfinally, a guy with sense about macedonia
@@BlueisJay yeah besides the Macedonian Empire didn’t use a flag
I usually don't watch long gaming videos but i like your style of playing good job
Looks like my new personal challenge, your Bearer of Artillery Strat seriously helped my Poland game but I'm not feeling too confident about this one.
Btw i tried this once in my runs but even if you go for the Metaxism focuses and you change to Mercouris, you lose those good bonuses too, so you aren't really sacrificing those great bonuses for time's sake.
Ah, good to know!
Great piece of work!!. I can imagine that was tough game. Well done
This is an amazing grind! Love the video!
I remember you making a poll before this, but I kind of find it funny how you and Spaniard are making the same stuff at the same time.
Thank you! I’ve had quite some trouble with this one.
I don’t know if you ever thought about it but personally I’d like to see some guides on states redux mode formables, up to the community but it would be helpful if you’d be done, thank you!!
If you haven't already, do "Once more, mate" (As Australia, occupy Gallipoli) along with any other commensurate Australian achievements.
Really enjoying the content!
You just do the Australia-Hungary achivement (There are guides for it). Then paradrop from Budapest to Edirne and done. After that you just afk and research atomic bombs then attack the allies and wait for a naval invasion then drop the bomb.
Please make updated run for this in by blood alone. Will love you forever lol
Does it bother anyone else that he didn't capture Cyprus?
Amazing job with this grand revival of an empire. I never would have thought of that Yugoslavian and Romanian war to ever work out tbh.
Honestly, I think this also highlights another thing that I wish the devs would improve upon a bit more, and it's that the coring of these territories should be done at intervals rather than all at once. Imagine how much less of a pain it all would be if you could core even just Bulgaria or a bit of Turkey after defeating them. There are a few other formables like this that are just so demanding for even less rewards so you hardly see anyone form them at all.
Where my greek brethren at? 🇬🇷😌🇬🇷
ΕΔΏ!!! 🇬🇷💪🏼
I didn’t even know this formable nation existed until your video. I will have to give it a try!
Macedonia, ottoman, byzantine border is just work of art, they are really nice
Saw the message on discord, finally the video is up!
Every time i hear the Greek units talk i get the urge to play Age of Mythology
If I saw correctly, the Macedonian flag in the thumbnail is a bit wrong, it should be blue and the yellow sun
Hey B1tter, I just reached 1.1k hours and Greece and Portugal are my favorite nations and I was just wondering if you'd think this is easier or harder on Non-Historic? I usually play Non-Historic so playing historic is a little odd to play for me.
The issue is that unhistorical is very unpredictable
One question: Would you be able to retain the modifiers of Mataxism you get in the focus tree if you were fortunate enough to get Turkey going ottoman (as I play some games non historical).
Oh, this was tough nut to crack. Great job! I had to try for this like 10 times. Your guide is much easier way to get it :-). Will you think about my challenge?Trying to unify POland-Lithuania as Lithuania? I tried it few times and it went terribly. I bet, that brain of yours could find a way :-).
Ah another Bittersteel video , love it.
I absolutely didn't expect to watch all 72 minutes of this. Beautiful stuff. Still hate you for not taking Yugo whole though. Tsk tsk.
even tho i am greek and both the macedonian and the byzantine empires are greek , i for some reason feel way more patriotic abou the byzantine empire
Maybe because Easter Roman Empire is closer to our timeline.
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them! - Albert Einstein, I don't think being patriotic is good
Makedonian empire was Greek
greek cope.
I didnt even know you could form the macedonian empire in hoi4
I guess im dum
You can also get it through the left side via Monarchy, but I think it is harder
@@rps215 king george is cringe tho
32:28 that island is called Chios. I know, the game says Samos, but it's wrong. Samos is the island to the Southeast of Chios. Not to the West of Turkey's Cesme peninsula but to the South of it.
Well, now I know. Thanks!
@@Bitt3rSteel Yeah, no problem! The video was great by the way. I just thought that if I made this more well known, maybe the devs would also notice it at some point and correct the island's name.
How have things changed on this and other tutorials you made following the release of dlc?
Hi! I have a question about some of your unit strategy, as I have watched a lot of your videos (probably 30+) but am still unable to reproduce your strategies without following your exact steps. Mainly my questions are about:
How do you decide what kind of template you make? I see sometimes you make anti tank, anti air, artillery, but why do you make this and why a specific amount? Sometimes Line AA, only support AA, I don't really understand.
Same thing with Fighter and CAS. How do you know how many fighters to make and if your fighter are doing well? And CAS how do you know when you have enough?
Also Navy and submarines, I understand about naval supremacy for invasion, but what about having enough Sub for convoy raiding? I don't really understand. How can you tell you have enough subs?
So in other words, where/how do you evaluate if your unit is doing well, and why it's doing well/not good enough? I haven't really seen this in your video apart from general advise of "2 factory of fighters for air superiority". I am eager to learn more!
Difficult to explain in detail. For equipment, I try to have a general strategy before I go in. Then produce stuff that inknownipl need: when playing a small nation, make support AA in preparation for fighting majors. You won't dominate the air anyway and this will protect your units. When fighting other small nations, a few fighters and CAS can go a long way, since will be able to get green air in those scenarios.
For artillery, you'll always need a lot, and I keep producing it as much as I can, depending on how my stockpile looks. Same for other equipment: look at stockpiles and try to figure out of the war is going to cost you a lot more or if you are comfortable with current supply. Then adjust as you go.
Great video !
I have no idea about this game but It's nice seeing my country doing well...normally it doesn't go well
I would recommend Kaiserredux AOG - You can crown Wilhelm as Emperor of China and have a German Dragon Throne. You Can Also Get Him on the Throne of Middleafrika but thats not as much of a challenge and is less fun so...
Either that or the Mongol Empire is quite fun, you get insane cavalry bonuses (I'm talking like an extra 100% attack and massive speed bonuses) and its also quite fun, though the small industry at the start and the Russian war are quite hard, but definitely rewarding.
I am impressed, that you can pronounce Schachtplan almost correctly (for a non german native, that is impressive)
One time I was trying to do the Northern Light achievement and I was 10 days away from declaring on Finnland when they got guaranteed by the allies the whole run killed !
Man I lose to germany as usa and you are conquering the world as minor nation, YOU RE a GOD OF THIS GAME !
Thanks for your guide
the true Macedonian Empire flag is blue not red, the red one is from the North Slavic macedonia that stole the history of Bulgaria and Greece plus they stole Bulgaria's culture
they didn't steal our culture, they are literally us
Every culture is stolen
Hey man just wanted to let you know you make great HOI4 content! You should do a colab with Taureor sometime mayhaps!
Congrats Bitt3rSteel. But your thumbnail is wrong and should be updated. The red flag IS NOT the Macedonian's Empire flag, it's a fake flag created by Skopje nationalists claiming Alexander's The Great legacy. The original Macedonian flag is blue. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the video and thank you for doing something original. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Macedonia_(Greece)
I'll forward it to Zatwinki, but I still love the work he did in making the countryball!
@@Bitt3rSteel Sure the country balls are always cool, I enjoy them in every video of yours but the flag is wrong, refers to something completely different and historically non existent :)
I just watched you do this, and I still don't know how you did this.
The Persians: "How does this Alexander guy keep moving so fast?!"
Alexander the Great at 300ms:
"Goddamn shitbox."
The traditional music and the national anthem on the background's fire 🔥
Nah now I need porus defence victory video
Excellent video and an epic campaign! I followed Spaniards method and went through Spain to get to the UK. It had the advantage of luring a lot more british troops to africa to guard their borders with italy. That UK invasion looked tough!
Spain is also a good path! Spaniard really knows his stuff. I decided to experiment since i've gotten lucky with invading Hull before
“I hope you’ve enjoyed my suffering”
Ah, the good old bathtubs. The go-to for anyone who doesn’t understand HoI4’s naval mechanics, such as myself.
A day before day of independence
YEAAAAAAHHH :D just what i wanted!!
Bitt3rSteel just can't resist going with dispersed industry...
hey, i am korean so i cant speak or listen to english but i own you a lot thank you i like you
What a hellish campaign for Hellas!
First time I’ve even seen this mentioned on TH-cam, didn’t know it existed until I was scrolling through formable nations for a game idea, Crush the dream achievement next?
37:09 Improve opinion with the Soviets -> goes into justify wargoal interface. Nice
FYI...I have noticed that if I delay assigning a research until I bank the 30 days I get a reduced penalty for ahead of time research penalties....you should look into that (more than 30 days ticks off the time to complete when you wait)
How even this video almost goes to 1 mil view, its just wonderful
What would really happen, were Alexander the Great to live in 1936:
"The Sherman may have been a fine tank, but the real gamechanger was Alexander the Sturdy"
"Who would have won a direct confrontation, the Bismarck or Alexander the Bouyant?"
"The Zero was ahead of its time, but one shouldn't discount Alexander the Aerodynamic"
"The Germans betrayed the Alexander-Ribbentrop pact, just as the Molotov-Alexander pact was broken"
"In the 2nd War of Heavenly Horses, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek defeated Alexander at Alexandria Eschatay, extracting a tribute of tank designs, but also horses for some reason through which he pacified the Warlords and Communists, it was the greatest deciding factor in the conflict against Japan"
"Americans refuse to call Pearl Harbor incident 'Alexander the very shocking', but may have to make future concessions to Alexander"
"Modern day St. Alexandersburg was briefly called Alexandergrad during WWII"
"In the post-war era, the Wall of Alexander separated East and West Alexandria the Anti-Fascist"
"World War II ended not on the Western Theatre, it only came to a close when the United States dropped Alexander the Fat and Little Alexander from Alexander & Gay on modern day Alexander the Bright and Alexander the Mushroom. That is how Japan became 'Alexander the actually Eschatay, Vista of Okeanos, Devoid of Horses of any kind'."
This is crazy. I really like this game. I am just... awful at it. It's kinda to where I have to take months long breaks before I try again. Feels like no matter what I do my men just stop moving forward and I don't know why or what to do about it. Great video though.
Bitter: *explaining his war plans*
Diabolical hellenic music:
1:00:21
Another good pick is the Prince of Terror for extra non core manpower
Alexander The Great too this in 12 years, rome took half of this in 200 years.
Beer, chips and Bitt3rSteel video... what could be better?
Maybe forming Polynesia as Hawaii or New Zealand would be a good challenge?
How about u try forming Arabia.
And be at peace at the end.
U would have to fight the allies and the axis, with baiscly no manpower and no industry.
Seems like a good challenge to me. ;)
This is a Hoi4 guide, not medieval torture
@@FreaKCSGOHacker based
So forming Arabia is medieval torture? Are you arabophobic?
great vid :)
praying someday we can have the Golden run of this goal vut with with super focus ideas saved
Pretty good content. You deserve way more subscribers.
Thanks!
You mad man, you did it
i love how him improve relationship with Soviet by clicking justify wargoal
Great
Japan unable of defeating China is a meme at this point.
Last time I clicked this fast, alexander was sober
I love the music!
Well, the way in which you managed to gey rid of the guarantees (especially the ones referred to Turkey) is really admirable!
“In terms of production…there is no production” 🤣🤣🤣