FYI Fastcap makes a double sided tape that helps hold unglued edge banding really well. One tip, I use some compressed air to clean the edge before applying the edge banding to make sure I get the best grip possible.
Great demos of the various techniques. I just don’t do enough of this to justify the Festool Machine. I live 45 miles from Fastcap and have been at their store/factory/office. Their tools are amazing and extremely innovative. It is always high quality and well thought through.
Awesome video Jason!!! I’ve never applied edge banding before, but I’m actually working on a project that will require it. That being said, this video could not have come out at a better time!! Thank you!!
Great video Jason! I have not had a chance to try any of these methods since I have not tried edge banding yet but I now have a good idea with which method I would like to try. Love the videos and , as always, I look forward to the next one. Keep up the great work!
I really liked this video and hope you will do more of the same. You could easily do this with most tools/techniques. Mitersaws, hammers, saws, even tablesaws. Love this idea!
Thanks for another great video. I'm waiting for my home to be built and so excited that I will have a two car detached garage for a woodshop. I like these videos showing less expensive tool options to get relatively the same results as it will take time to build my dream arsenal of tools.
Great video! Really enjoy your channel. I know you don't want to tell people what to use but I would still like to hear pros and cons from your perspective. Cost and ease of application are the only things that come up. What is about durability? Hardwood edge banding seems to win here. Not sure how much you gain with the festool machine in terms of durability compared to iron though? What looks the best? To make hardwood edge banding disappear requires work terms of grain matching etc. Would love to hear your thoughts on these questions...
That would be a good idea for another video for sure. As for the strength of the machine vs iron on, the strength of the glue from the pucks is far superior to iron on options.
Thanks for the video. I’m just finishing up a project that’s a knock off of an unnamed Swedish furniture company’s piece that’s been out of stock for months. So far, I’ve ironed on 75’ of melamine edge banding. I may have to look into that peel and stick for future projects. 😂 I always enjoy your videos!
Jason Bent - Bent's Woodworking: I have a suspicion that edge banding that uses a hot melt adhesive such as the iron-on type will be more durable than peel-and-stick banding because the ironing pressure forces the molten adhesive deeper into the wood fibres providing better anchorage. Personally I’ve never used the peel-and-stick banding but would be interested in any testing anyone has done, especially longer term testing which I suspect would show greater differences between the two types due to faster degradation of what is merely a pressure-activated contact adhesive. Any takers?
Dominic DiClemente many years ago when I built shelves out of 3/4" (18mm) veneered blackboard I used to edge them with about 1" (25mm) of softwood then plane the bottom edge of the softwood to about 1/2" (12mm) at the front edge which made the shelves look a lot lighter from the front. They were painted in those days.
Appreciate the video! I'm currently finishing up a Media Console and have some iron-on edge banding I'll be applying for the first time. TBH, the Festool looks pretty cumbersome, especially since you still need to flush cut and trim the edges anyway
I think with Festool prices that a basic table edge banding machine could be close in cost. Then it becomes a trade off for brining the tool to the work or brining the work to the tool. I can see the Festool Conturo being ultra slick for large panels.
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Your list of tools used in this video does not identify the model of the Router used in part four of this video - Could you please identify the Router model - Also, in particular, if the guide that is attached to the Router is from a different manufacturer, please state who the manufacturer is - Thank you
@@bentswoodworking Thank you for specifying the Router to be an MFK 700 Festool Router - Definitely a top of the line Router with an associated high price tag - Amazon sells only the Router in its Vertical base form for $ 499.00 - Doesn’t sell the Router in its Kit form which includes the Horizontal base - Kit form generally sells for $ 599.00 - Amazon does have a short video clip that shows you how easy it is to switch between the two bases - Wish Milwaukee had a horizontal base unit for my cordless compact Router but they don’t 😧
Using a prefinished birch ply 3/4 in. and what I found and should have realized the finish veneer is thinner than the unfinished. Conclusion when you go to edge band I think your router method would be the best because using a sharp edge by hand I had a lot of those "OH DAMN" moments, that veneer has to be paper thin!
Hi Jason. Seems to me that the peel and stick plus the double sided cutter was the fastest and must be much cheaper ( including the cost of the special edge banding for the Conturo) than the rather cumbersome Conturo and its, probably, expensive associated cutter and router guide plate. Faster than the Conturo as well and a better finish than the iron on. Interesting to see the various method all compared though. Thanks.
I just want to show people many ways to do it and let them make the choice on their own. Personally, the Conturo is my favorite technique but for smaller jobs, the peel and stick would be my go to I think.
Jason Bent - Bent's Woodworking Understood Jason. It was a very good review of a variety of "ways to skin a cat" (as we say in UK) and contained several tips to useful gadgets. Mike
The absolutely best ans easiest way to trim edge banding is a hand plane iron. It registers perfectly on the plywood and it cuts without leaving any marks at all
Jason Bent - Bent's Woodworking: Yes, a good tip. Being a lot wider than a chisel, it will indeed rest very securely on the face of the board and be more stable than a chisel, especially in the hands of a less experienced wood worker. As with a chisel, it must be kept very sharp.
You missed the pvc edge banding without preglue on it and not using the festool. To make things worse apply it to particle board which will just soak up all the glue.
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FYI Fastcap makes a double sided tape that helps hold unglued edge banding really well. One tip, I use some compressed air to clean the edge before applying the edge banding to make sure I get the best grip possible.
Great demos of the various techniques. I just don’t do enough of this to justify the Festool Machine. I live 45 miles from Fastcap and have been at their store/factory/office. Their tools are amazing and extremely innovative. It is always high quality and well thought through.
Great demonstration sir. Thank you
You’re welcome
Wonderful Demo....Thanks a ton Jason +++++
You’re welcome
that festool system is the way to go if you have a lot to do. man that thing did a nice job
I absolutely agree. If I have anything more than a couple pieces, I’m reaching for the Conturo now.
Great video... Thank you. It's actually hard to find a video that sows this four technics.
Glad you found it helpful
Thanks for giving me demonstration really enjoyed it you have a blessed day
You’re welcome!!
Excellent video. Thank you Jason!
You’re welcome
This is great info! Thanks, Jason.
You’re welcome
Thanks Jason - Good info. Definitely going to try a couple of the techniques you showed. Much appreciated!
You’re very welcome!
Thanks for sharing your video.
You’re welcome!!
Awesome video Jason!!! I’ve never applied edge banding before, but I’m actually working on a project that will require it. That being said, this video could not have come out at a better time!! Thank you!!
So glad to hear that!!
Helpful.Thanks.
👍👍
Thank you for the video. The edge banding on my new cabinetry is coming off. Do I need to replace it or can I just try to re-iron it back on?
I have Grex, too. Love it. Thank you, Jason
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Great video! Very informative.
Glad you liked it!
Great video Jason! I have not had a chance to try any of these methods since I have not tried edge banding yet but I now have a good idea with which method I would like to try. Love the videos and , as always, I look forward to the next one. Keep up the great work!
Glad you found it helpful!
I really liked this video and hope you will do more of the same. You could easily do this with most tools/techniques. Mitersaws, hammers, saws, even tablesaws. Love this idea!
Definitely plan on more like this.
What is the surface prep for the peel and stick edging?
Kool video. What was that little scraper you used to remove the glue at the end?
Thanks for another great video. I'm waiting for my home to be built and so excited that I will have a two car detached garage for a woodshop. I like these videos showing less expensive tool options to get relatively the same results as it will take time to build my dream arsenal of tools.
That is exactly what I was going for! I’m very happy to hear you found it helpful
Great program! How do you prep the edge of plywood for iron-on wood tape?
I will just apply to a clean cut edge
Great video! Really enjoy your channel. I know you don't want to tell people what to use but I would still like to hear pros and cons from your perspective. Cost and ease of application are the only things that come up. What is about durability? Hardwood edge banding seems to win here. Not sure how much you gain with the festool machine in terms of durability compared to iron though? What looks the best? To make hardwood edge banding disappear requires work terms of grain matching etc. Would love to hear your thoughts on these questions...
That would be a good idea for another video for sure. As for the strength of the machine vs iron on, the strength of the glue from the pucks is far superior to iron on options.
Thanks for the video. I’m just finishing up a project that’s a knock off of an unnamed Swedish furniture company’s piece that’s been out of stock for months. So far, I’ve ironed on 75’ of melamine edge banding. I may have to look into that peel and stick for future projects. 😂
I always enjoy your videos!
Glad you found it helpful 👍
Jason Bent - Bent's Woodworking: I have a suspicion that edge banding that uses a hot melt adhesive such as the iron-on type will be more durable than peel-and-stick banding because the ironing pressure forces the molten adhesive deeper into the wood fibres providing better anchorage. Personally I’ve never used the peel-and-stick banding but would be interested in any testing anyone has done, especially longer term testing which I suspect would show greater differences between the two types due to faster degradation of what is merely a pressure-activated contact adhesive. Any takers?
I use a SHARP chisel to trim the edges of veneer, you can use the flat back of the chisel to register on the surface of the plywood.
Really great idea. Not sure why I didn’t include that in this video.
I have done the same for a long time. The chisel,does need to be really sharp but it works very well and leaves a neat edge.
@@katabrontes I was using it on exotic wood so I was concerned just using a flush trim bit on the router would cause alot of tearout.
Dominic DiClemente many years ago when I built shelves out of 3/4" (18mm) veneered blackboard I used to edge them with about 1" (25mm) of softwood then plane the bottom edge of the softwood to about 1/2" (12mm) at the front edge which made the shelves look a lot lighter from the front. They were painted in those days.
Appreciate the video! I'm currently finishing up a Media Console and have some iron-on edge banding I'll be applying for the first time. TBH, the Festool looks pretty cumbersome, especially since you still need to flush cut and trim the edges anyway
I think with Festool prices that a basic table edge banding machine could be close in cost. Then it becomes a trade off for brining the tool to the work or brining the work to the tool. I can see the Festool Conturo being ultra slick for large panels.
It is a dream to use. The time savings makes it worth it to me
Awesome video man. Can you share some info on the wall system you used behind the Kapex? Looks really nice.
It’s from Omni wall. There is a link and discount code for their products in the description. 👍
Jason Bent - Bent's Woodworking this together with the mr cool ac I bought with your affiliate link are going to make you my wife’s arch nemesis. Beware.
Dairy Barn Woodworking lol I am very sorry 🤣🤣
Just taking a moment to relax before searching for a price on that festool
Brace yourself 🤣
Where can i buy that edge bonding machine?
Many places. It’s sold by Festool. There is a link to one I. The video description
Your list of tools used in this video does not identify the model of the Router used in part four of this video - Could you please identify the Router model - Also, in particular, if the guide that is attached to the Router is from a different manufacturer, please state who the manufacturer is - Thank you
It’s the MFK 700 from festool
@@bentswoodworking Thank you for specifying the Router to be an MFK 700 Festool Router - Definitely a top of the line Router with an associated high price tag - Amazon sells only the Router in its Vertical base form for $ 499.00 - Doesn’t sell the Router in its Kit form which includes the Horizontal base - Kit form generally sells for $ 599.00 - Amazon does have a short video clip that shows you how easy it is to switch between the two bases - Wish Milwaukee had a horizontal base unit for my cordless compact Router but they don’t 😧
Great video, that fastcap trimmer looks so slick ! Do they offer that as a set ?
They do as far as I know
For about the cost of the sanding pad you can but a cheap trim plane from HD/lowes. True the bottom sharpen and works great.
Good to know thanks!!
Using a prefinished birch ply 3/4 in. and what I found and should have realized the finish veneer is thinner than the unfinished. Conclusion when you go to edge band I think your router method would be the best because using a sharp edge by hand I had a lot of those "OH DAMN" moments, that veneer has to be paper thin!
Hey bro, love the videos. Did you coat your MFT top?
I did. Shellac and arm r seal
Hi Jason. Seems to me that the peel and stick plus the double sided cutter was the fastest and must be much cheaper ( including the cost of the special edge banding for the Conturo) than the rather cumbersome Conturo and its, probably, expensive associated cutter and router guide plate. Faster than the Conturo as well and a better finish than the iron on. Interesting to see the various method all compared though. Thanks.
I just want to show people many ways to do it and let them make the choice on their own. Personally, the Conturo is my favorite technique but for smaller jobs, the peel and stick would be my go to I think.
Jason Bent - Bent's Woodworking Understood Jason. It was a very good review of a variety of "ways to skin a cat" (as we say in UK) and contained several tips to useful gadgets. Mike
The absolutely best ans easiest way to trim edge banding is a hand plane iron. It registers perfectly on the plywood and it cuts without leaving any marks at all
Thanks for the tip!
Jason Bent - Bent's Woodworking: Yes, a good tip. Being a lot wider than a chisel, it will indeed rest very securely on the face of the board and be more stable than a chisel, especially in the hands of a less experienced wood worker. As with a chisel, it must be kept very sharp.
Example 2 - Iron on . Just use the edge of a file ,really quick and great results
Thanks for the tip
stretchy elec tape?
You missed the pvc edge banding without preglue on it and not using the festool. To make things worse apply it to particle board which will just soak up all the glue.
Use spray contact
@@troyqueen9503 can you recommend a brand
Haha oh my word, just checked, Festool Conturo costs as much as a mid to high end cabinet saw.
It’s definitely not cheap
$3500 and it doesn’t flush cut? The red set looks pretty attractive though.
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Look for signs that you are saved. Things like spreading the good news from Jesus, getting other people saved, a craving for the word of God, reading the Bible, etc… These things are known as a calling and fruit bearing. If you're not bearing fruit then keep doing it. Sometimes it takes time to get saved. Read Matthew chapter 13 from the King James Bible. God bless!!!!!!!
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