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#science #philosophy #evolution - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Snatching the Whigs
Ey love you Olly 💜💜
New Video New Video
do a video why reddit banned leftist subreddits recently and how the media and liberalism is inherently right wing
YAAAAASSSSSSS.
I'm not sure if you've ever said where in the UK you're from; I don't want to dox you if you haven't obviously but I've been playing way too much Geoguessr recently and I'm wondering where in the UK you find woods like these
edit: oh shit I had this paused right before you said "I won't say where exactly" lol, apologies.
POV: You’re on your middle school field trip and your science teacher starts to go on a rant...
Idiot Leg I want to go on this trip...it’s a very informative one. Also there’s some nice woods
pfff haha
oh god this is too accurate what have you done
alternate title: you're trying to walk your dog in peace but this guy keeps trying to explain marx to you and you cant just say go away because that would be mean
I cannot believe our school teacher just sips at bbq sauce
”who would win in a fight: darwin or marx?” you fool, they would kiss
I need art of this
@brmbly Untangle....the beards.....you say?
Lol No, dear child, once tangled, there is no untangling.
The beards become one super beard.
Karls Marxwin is awakened.
@@seanmatthewking hey bro there's this show called steven universe and... i think it kinda ripped you off...
I ship it
@Obsessive Compulsive I really don't know if you are joking or if you have been reading some hard fake news...
I'm autistic, and whenever someone mentions ANYTHING about survival of the fittest, I get really scared. It always lurks in the back of my mind that if I was born even 50 years earlier I wasn't considered human
Yeah. Now when you mention it, it is very scary. I'm autistic myself so I can relate to that feeling. To be viewed as lesser than we are. Treated as sub-human creatures, not really fit for society. It's horrible, really
@not a real person Maybe you have a point
@not a real person Depends on the type of Autism i guess, my mum works with kids who would have definitely been, idk, lobotomised at BEST 50 years ago. Kids with like really severe cases of autism, who require constant care
But yeah most aspies would probably be okay, 50 years ago that is. If similar ideas make a comeback today though, yeah i don't think that they would be able to evade ungodly treatment by society
why? for all we know autists can be better at things that make them fit, depending on the type, like computer science.
same with any time someone starts talking abt bootstraps and hard work, though a lot of that i feel like is current economic conditions too. idk.
That moment where the "travelling salesman" correctly genders their son, then catches himself and intentionally misgenders him is so on point
I'd interpreted it as accidentally misgendering them and then getting it right, but given what the character of the Arsonist is meant to represent, it could absolutely be either
@@LeBonkJordan future videos make it clear the character's son is a trans man! I forget which one specifically but one of the post transition ones. It introduces the arsonists sister and she goes on about how her "niece" isn't really a man
@@randomclankitties Thx, I've been going through these out of order so I haven't really picked up on the chronology of the Philosophy Tube Cinematic Universe
The headline for The Daily Signal says "Transgender firefighter saves three from inferno", that's his son
@@randomclankittiesIt's from the video "Jordan Peterson's Ideology" where The Arsonists sister laments about the arson attacks, her trans nephew, the society, her brother, and how she is apparently in love with her brother.
As a biology student the line "Evolution is not a process of improvement, it's a process of change" just fills me with so much joy
Evolution does not solve the is-ought problem, and neither do markets. Something biologists and economists must always remind us.
Oh my God, yes.
My version of this was “It’s not survival of the fittest, it’s survival of the good enough,” but I think the other version is more apt.
Its literally " be the best you can be". And I love that.
Oh my goodness, I'm the exact same way. The biggest, most frustrating misunderstanding I've come across is people understanding evolution and related concepts like fitness as having inherent value judgments. In reality, evolution is a lens you can look at many things, from economics through biology and even just tracking the flow of information/memes, that is super powerful analytically- but there's a huge stigma because of that common misunderstanding!
“There’s not enough food to go round, we must let poor people die” I proclaim to the other aristocrats during the evening feast.
This is possibly the best way i’ve seen this explained
Reminds me of a piece of satire from the 1700's called 'A Modest Proposal' by Jonathan Swift where 'the proposer' suggests that the best way to stop starvation and debt in Ireland is for mothers to sell their babies to be eaten by the rich. 'The proposer' later says that his plan is infallible compared to improving manufacturing or taxing landlords who don't live in the county, meant to show how these solutions are actually a lot more reasonable than cannibalism. It's a fantastic read
Stalin's aristocrats, I assume...
@@KnjazNazrath Shit he brought Stalin as an argument! We got destroyed by facts and logic!
There’s plenty of food. There’s not enough effort to go ‘round, and too much government restricting it. If the poor got off their asses, they wouldn’t be poor.
Ok, Abigail has got to be the first woman in history to Chekhov's-gun foreshadow her coming out, absolutely godessly
wait what?
@@lizoliver3021 To answer that question, we need to know which part you didn't understand.
@@freshoutofcrabs i know shes trans, but what thing was foreshadowed
@Santos Kemmer At the time this was released, she hadn't come out. There are a few things that could be interpreted as foreshadowing her coming out, such as the newspaper the arsonist was reading, but I think the most obvious was the "it's time for egg" scene after the credits. "Egg" in the trans community refer to someone who shows signs that they might be trans but haven't realized it yet (or possibly haven't yet accepted it).
Of course, it's entirely possible that it is hindsight bias and we're reading too much into it rather than Abi deliberately dropping hints, but it's also the kind of thing she would do, so it could be either.
@@freshoutofcrabs how did i not notice that?? im trans, i should have known in hindsight
"Tribal membership isn't genetic. Every tribe has their own citizenship rules. You can have the DNA but not be part of the living community." I want to make a stamp of this and slap it on the forehead of everyone asking me "so how much native are you" as if that qualifies or disqualifies me from being Native.
Plot twist, blood percent was a trick by the boia to breed out anyone who qualifies in a few generations
@@wubstepgrandma It sure was! And it sure did infiltrate the Métis community here in Canada something fierce.
@@gabrielbruce1977 I'm from a branch of the Lenni lenape not recognized by the us govt
I'm a Nordic mutt, but I completely understand how that irrational concept can get under the skin. Like, how human are you??
Plus if tribal membership is dictated by genetics, all that has to happen is enough interbreeding and suddenly woops no more legally recognized tribe; everyone with the tribes genetics has only 49% tribe or lower, guess we can liquidate the res.
Like… it’s something that I’d expect to encourage only marrying within the tribe, and ostracizing anyone who doesn’t. Plus depending on tribe size, intermarrying could get uncomfortably close in terms of blood relations. Shouldn’t the tribe government decide what makes you a member, not genetics?
Ollie : Lamarck was a Frenchman and he was like "Hon hon hon. I have solved ze mysterie".
And that's how we can be sure Ollie is an Englishman.
I dunno, American imitations of French accents are pretty similar. (Not sure how much of that is due to British comedians, though.)
If only Lamarck had thought to test his theories by starting a giraffe farm where they were all fed at ground level
The Onion Knight!
@@timothymclean I was actually alluding to the historical "rivalry (An understatement) between the English and the French.
@@MerilWoodly It's actually pronounced "Kanigit"
"Even if you're right, Elon Musk is still gonna call the police" is one of the most biting and poignant observations regarding the relationship between labor and capital that I've ever heard.
I wonder if Bezos called the cops when the protesters set up a *guillotine* outside his DC house.
@@flaming6 are you saying Jeff Bezos lives in DC? Or are you saying Jeff Bezos bought a house that happens to be in DC because he can since he's flushed w cash?
@joe kiva Bezos lives in everyone and everything. He has used his fortune to upload his consciousness into every non-living and living being in the universe
Joking of course
@@oddacity5883 No no, you might be on to something.
The irony of using Elon Musk as an example of extravagant waste even though he got rid of all his personal possessions and houses.
So much for "poignancy".
as someone studying biology, i can say that she really pretty much nailed what evolution is about considering that she's not a biologist. this is very uncommon for people not studying biology and talking about evolution.
What do you mean? What part of it do people often get wrong? Just curious, because evolution is taught in primary school and in high school, so I would assume that the idea is pretty much ingrained in people's minds.
Ah, probably the part about "improvement" vs "change". Yeah I can see how someone might fall into that trap.
@@jonskislo1
Ohhhh
That bit’s still kind of difficult for me to grasp if I’m honest
She's incredibly smart 😊
@@jonskislo1 Even though it's taught in school, I think many people walk out with the Lamarckist idea that individuals evolve and adapt, during their lifetime, instead of species as a whole. Not two weeks ago I heard someone talk about tuskless elephants in that very manner, as if elephants were smart enough to not grow tusks on purpose.
Also I think there's an idea that lingers, more or less consciously, that human evolution is finished, cause we're great as we are and couldn't be better. It goes with everybody's impression that whatever happened to them in their youth and childhood must have been good somehow since it made them the person they are; it doesn't often occur to people that another life story might have made them even better persons.
Turns out the transgender firefighter was Abigail all along?
Sometimes the real firefighters are the youtubers we met along the way.
I read this comment to the tune of Agatha All Along
In her stream she clarified that the arsonist had a trans son, hence him referring to his “daughter”
@@nadalekene2446 did u see the new video? it continues the arsonist plotline with some weird stuff
@@shittysoulsplayer5038 you mean his incestuous sister?
Walking through the woods talking about Marx is the socialist version of ranting about AOC in your truck
lmaoooooooo!!
We thank thee for this blessed comment
Then Brad and Steve turn to each other in their truck and start laughing.
David Gwin what are you going on about?
AOC being ?
Legends say he's still lost in the woods, contemplating Marx as he tries to figure out where he is.
Maybe his offspring will have mutations to adapt to the new environment.
He'll be fine. He's got brown sauce.
“She”
@@kruzvelasco2619 oh be quiet Abigail wasn't out a year ago and I doubt she blames people for now misgendering her
“Transgender firefighter” Steve Banon throwback AND foreshadowing. Legend
I just love the idea of Charles Darwin, a scientist and man of leisure, not being able to slog his way through more than the first 100 pages of Capital. Like, if he couldn't do it, what chance do us normies have?
Yeah wtf...
I did, it was tough but a very interesting read. And now I'm reading "on the origins of species" and it is also tough but very interesting.
High chances. I did it, nothing is stopping you.
On the plus side, apparently there's a free audiobook version of it on Librivox, so if you have a long commute or a braindead job and the ability to wear an earbud while working I'd say in some ways our chances are way better today than they would've been even just a decade ago, probably.
Australian here. Just wanted to point out that we did a Eugenics with our Indigenous population. Forced sterilisation happened, as did the Stolen Generation. White Australia tried to breed out the Aboriginal DNA, and it's one of the most shameful things in Australian history.
It's somewhat concerning that we only learn about that for like, one week in school, then move on to other stuff.
@@thevoidlord1796 same thing has happened in peruvian history and they don't even teach that in schools so yeah.
@Obsessive Compulsive Jesuits? What on earth are you talking about? We have National Sorry Day every year to acknowledge the horrific acts that were done to these people. This was nothing but attempted genocide. You sound like a conspiracy theorist and clearly have no interest in good faith discussion. Good day sir.
@@BellJosh243 he has no idea about what he´s saying lmao
@@Mazadepizza talking about Peru I think
“This isn’t FACTS tube...”
*OfficialBenShapiro has unsubscribed*
But wasn't it LOGIC tube?
pls stop the cringe comments
Queen Victoria died in 1901 so that makes 1901 the end of the Victorian Era. Tesla Motors company was founded in 2003 and let's say, for the sake of the argument, Elon Musk founded it at his birth, which was in 1971. By simple math we conclude there wasn't any Tesla factory at least 70 years after Marx and his communist criminals, which means Elon Musk didn't call police on him. Stop crying, snowflake, you were just destroyed by FACTS and LOGIC.
@GazB
Name even single rational member of far left.
@Tally Ho don't forget his commentary on john Lennon's "imagine" ...
That's something his followers need to see
I was listening to this video more than watching it but the second I heard "a traveling salesman" I **immediately** tabbed over because the Arsonist is my favorite of Abby's characters, and I was not disappointed in the slightest.
"Wanna know how I got these scars?" wants what "Do you have a match?" has, really.
It’s such a good one-liner lmao
I hadn't even considered Joker's scar thing hearing that
God that went so hard
It just hit me that every Arsonist sketch ends with him asking you for a small favor. The Arsonist can have all the petrol in the world, but it won't turn into violence without someone giving him a match. He needs an enabler.
Wow that’s really insightful
The "concerned father" part was just the most beautiful and delicate representation of flawed ideals that I've ever seen.
"You can give your children your love, but not your thoughts. They will have their own thoughts." - Khalil Gibran, The Prophet.
The Arsonist is just the best at being just the worst
Shiiva Inu It really was. Because, well, it gave me an actual panic attack due to how well it captures my own dad’s perspective of me :).
Honestly though, I just view that as a testament to Olly with how well in touch he is with what he’s talking about. He has all the understanding of the abstract philosophy and also the skill to apply in all the situations to specific everyday (but also societal!) situations. That latter part is a very rare skill I think.
It's from the video about Bannon! ;)
Yeah kinda sounded like my dad
“What was the vibe in Victorian Britain?
The vibes were not good”
Heckin’ nice
dat cholera vibe
She explains biology things better than most of the science teachers I've ever had!
He*
Pretty sure he does not have ovaries.
@@haidengeary8277 Not her pronouns
@@haidengeary8277 She*
@@everything5066 didn't she/he transition later on tho after this video, so they're a man in this video but a woman in the newer ones post-transition
@@yuritardid7761 she started transitioning in the background of this video and many others including things such as doing hints, changing the name in the well credits, this is one where Abby started to show herself a bit more.
Can we just take a second to appreciate how consistent yet complex the Arsonist is. He fits into every video it’s amazing.
'Protect them from making any sort of... permanent decision'
*sucks air through teeth transgenderishly *
Bad mouth feel
Oh gosh right away, that dog whistle tho
I see I'm late to the mouthfeel comments 🤦🏾♂️😏🤪
This time, the Arsonist reminds me of the shit my cryptofash step-mom says.
@@flaming6 Olly has all the favorite cryptofash dogwhistles down pat in the Arsonist's dialogue
"wait it's all epic rap battles of history?"
"Always has been"
Ah I see you're man of culture
in these pandemic times ive literally had a (former) friend tell me that vulnerable people (like me, with a chronic medical condition) /should/ just die if we're not strong enough to survive without intervention. she managed to find her way there through 'scientific' conclusions based on the biology she was learning at school.
The British government reached the same conclusion. Individuals and care homes got mass letters telling them vulnerable people were to be given automatic DNAR orders, and that if an ambulance was called for them one wouldn't be sent out so don't bother.
Literally there were relatively predatory care homes coming forward like "um, no? If one of my residents needs urgent medical care, I WILL be calling an ambulance and I WILL be kicking up stink if one is not sent out because what the actual f*ck is wrong with you?!" and the government sorta backslid on it a little by seemingly just not enforcing it as much as they wanted.
Seriously. At the start of the pandemic, my roommate at the time had pneumonia and bronchitis and had already been isolating for 2 months. Her doctor, not mine, wrote me a doctor's note stating I should work from home because getting covid would likely kill my roommate. I lost my job because my boss, a DOCTOR, refused to make any sort of accommodation for me to work from home and I refused to potentially infect my roommate. (3-4 hours of public transit a day means it's likely I would have caught it.) My boss told me I should just think of myself and not worry if my roommate got sick. What she really meant was, "this will inconvenience me too much, why aren't you thinking of ME?!"
By June 2020, 80% of the office had gotten covid, so I'm glad I got fired.
Long before COVID, when I was a teenager, I had someone say this to me regarding a medical condition that had killed my grandmother and nearly killed my aunt. She, at least, had the excuse of being a technical child.
I'm so glad I started watching Abby's videos in general, but especially after her transition. It's really cool to see the gradual move in her expression and the subtle hints of her identity. Cool stuff!
the easter eggs are so amazing
"I'm putting hot sauce in my omelette, and the hot sauce is communism!"
MAKE IT RED! MAKE IT RED!
Red has more fun 😉
No, red omelet means too much hot sauce, and the vinegar in it will pickle the egg. You just want a nice blush pink. Bread and rosé eggs. ;)
THE HOT SAUCE IS COMMUNISM!
I'm putting that on a t-shirt😹😹😹
I mean, pro gamer move: drizzle the hot sauce after the fact to taste. No unnecessary pickling. Unless you want it.
It’s such a minor detail, but I just LOVE how the Arsonist mistakes the Standard Cup of Tea as “Perfect.” It’s just an artificial system intended to make testing tea flavor more consistent, but he frames it like some divine, pre-ordained “correct” method, when in fact it’s only designed to make the SAME cup of tea as before. Such a perfect microcosm of prescriptivist thinking.
It's such a good detail. I was hearing this video while biking, but I knew I was listening to the arsonist the moment he said the cup of tea made that way was 'perfect'
A great analogy for communism.
@@MurdermiesteR how?? 😂😂
@@bettievw
An artificial system intended to make things more consistent being framed as a "divine" or "correct" method?
That is this channel in a nutshell. A bourgeois professor talking about us proletariat as if we are neglected slaves when we are free people who can succeed or fail on our own merits.
@@MurdermiesteR Jesus Christ, that's such a bad interpretation of communism I'm fucking rolling over the floor right now, thanks for the laugh!
Random note on the tree with those growths at 4:50, those are called burls or burrs. It is a cancerous growth in response to stress from the tree, either from injury, infestation, fungus or even virus. So in a way an evil is indeed locked inside ;) Woodworkers love burls, cause the grain looks all twisted and pretty. Especially resin + wood burl combos have become popular recent years, because you get some cool natural edges also.
I was looking through the comments for this answer! As soon as she pointed out the growths (which are quite pretty), I wondered if someone would know what they are because I wanted to know. Thank you!
Wait, so cherry blossom tress have cancer?
39:00 Look at the newspaper she puts down. "Transgender firefighter saves three from inferno".
Abigail has been dropping hints.
Malthus is such an evil sounding name its almost funny
Malthus Mefistus Malicius
- the rightest of right wingers,
the wrongest of wrong-doers
Most likely because "Mal" is Latin for "bad."
not more than Ayn Rand
@@jackylaibach2351 ayn rand sounds like a mean social worker but Malthus sounds like someone who literally kicks the poor
Fun fact, in ancient Etruscan legends, the god of the underworld was called Manthus. It's not exactly the same, but it's interesting how close the two names are, and how close they are in what they represent.
“Putting hot sauce on my omelet and the hot sauce is COMMUNISM”
Legendary quote
Now it's OUR omelet
good way to starve to death.
Daru Super Hacker yrs
Tespri wdym
@Tally Ho Every ill? Nah, world has it's issues, communism just makes them worse.
Capitalism won the war. Extreme poverty nearly remove world wide, we have better well being than ever before while simultaneously having more rich people than ever. We were living literally golden age of mankind. Or maybe your IQ is so low that you blame pandemic on capitalism?
“Transgender Firefighter saves 3” ABBY HOW DARE YOU GET THIS PAST US
@@hellohi8062 36:42
Hello Hi 39:00 and seeing as in her old Steve Bannon video she plays a firefighter in opposition to the character in this scene, this is basically her early way of coming out to the public
did nobody clock the manicure when abby was making breakfast? cmooooon people
I mean its cool to look back on but honestly, this was in no way foreshadowing.
I think (and ofc am correct about, you'd all agree) that its incredibly wrong to assume transition, even when someone throws strong hints. So yeah, we could never know, but its incredibly fun rewatching her catalogue and seeing easter eggs all over!!
@@frankbacon1002 She literally stated in her coming out video that she had transitioned a year before, aka months before this video came out. The easter eggs might not be intentional, but we're hardly "assuming transition".
Malthus influenced pretty much everyone and is still arguably mainstream today and yet one scientist decided to write a book "The Conquest of Bread" doing the math and proving how wrong and talking out of his ass he had been even at the time. There was always enough to go around and we always could've lived comfortably while working less by sharing everything.
"I'm putting hot sauce in my eggs and the hot sauce (dramatic zoom) IS COMMUNISM."
Omg. Ollie, I love you.
One more great line for those "LeftTube out of context" compilations :D
I'm still getting used to the baby faced look from Olly
After a few moments of getting used to it I'm actually quite liking it. First it's that thing you get when someone shaves or you see them without their glasses for the first time when your brain can't really understand that that isn't part of their face. As soon as my brain realised that his beard wasn't a permanent fixture to his face it accepted it's still the same person underneath. And that person has quite a nice chin.
William Ek I’ve never thought about that before but that’s so accurate! It’s totally like when someone takes off their glasses.
Ye but he's so cute like this
Haha how have you become like a leftist comment icon
No bring back the facial hair
37:28
Last summer, when this video came out I commented that this scene reminded me a lot of how my mother talks about me, being transgender. It made me quite emotional, because I rarely felt so seen as in - the character who is saying this is the arsonist, a character who wants you to empathize with him and then spouts out garbage ideas. This is a bit mean, of course, but it is a parody, so of course it's over the top.
Now that Abby is out as trans, it makes me wonder how many other people have heard these words. I always felt like she understood what it's like, and I guess she did.
The part where she started saying "son" before switching to talking about the arsonist's "daughter" really hit home for me. The fact that even when it comes naturally to most parents to want to support their children, they can't fit a trans child with their own framework of the world, so they actively dismiss their child to let their worldview remain unchanged. It's such a subtle and devastating form of erasure.
@@lindenshepherd6085 Some parents would change the world for their kid. Other parents would keep the world and throw the kid away. Don’t really have a point I’m just mad at shitty parents
"It's rare people are as explicitly Malthusian as Scrooge these days." Not in Latin America.
Got that right
“And the hot sauce ... is Communism!” might be my new favorite quote ever.
I was about to comment that
The concept of “overpopulation” is so ever present. My dad literally quoted Thanos when we were talking about coronavirus... and he wonders why I don’t want to chat to him about politics.
Same. My father is very Conservative, probably right to far-right on many issues. His commentary on the virus is primarily eugenics-filled, and his other takes are filled with supremacy on many issues. I'm pretty sure it's maliciously partisan-fueled research to go out of his way to make sure that, in his mind, every country is worse than America. I really want to get away from him asap because his ideology may lead him to harm someone someday.
He also tends to put people down for mistakes, and I really want to get away from that mindset.
@@glacierwolf2155 Yeesh. Best of luck, mate.
It's wild how many right wingers cite superhero movies, like Tim Pool. They think these are actually good arguments.
to be fair, it seems like a choice: we either limit our needs to allow for future and population growth/stability, we do nothing accept that within a few generations we will get an extinction event (as we will have sucked the planet dry form resources with an added option of having a runaway greenhouse gasses effect), or we will need to limit (and control, not just taking off half and waiting for the next doubling to occur) our population to account for both the renewing of resources form the planet, and our preferable standard of living. I think we can all agree that option 2 isn't really an option at all, that option 1 is the preferred method of the have-nots (or let's say those with a communal interest in mind) and option 3 is the preferred method of the haves (or those that would rather act in their own self-interest). However, until we pick either options 1 or 3, we propagate option 2 making a successful transition to options 1 or 3 less likely to succeed.
Why not? Even the creators of the movie don't seem to understand Thanos's mistakes.
Absolute chills at 41:52 "...do you have a match?" Beautifully acted. Thank you for spreading sanity in the face of all the madness we're living. Learning so much here and having a blast going through the phenomenal backlog of videos on your channel!!
Reading Marx, Malthus, and Smith this semester. I still think this is one of the most important video essays on the internet.
As a Chilean, I thank you for acknowledging the fueguinos and their story on your video. Selk'nam were victims of the human zoos as they were called and they suffered a lot at the hands of landlords and hunters. They had semi nomadic societies in which they defined territories between the tribes through mutual accord, collaborating during times of famine and having a very interesting relationship between themselves and the land. Also they had pretty dope rituals like the kloketén, where they dressed in strange garments meant to represent their deities and demons. If anyone is interested I urge you to read about them and their story, there are even interviews with some of the last descendants of their culture. I would like for their history to not die, we already did them a lot of bad during the 19th and early 20th century. Thank you
CHILE GANG! Thanks for this comment, I also felt a lot of things hearing the story of those Fueguinos from Ollie
Its a shame they were victims of a frighteningly effective genocide and now they are all dead and not even their language survived
Unless that guy that was probably extremely hight was actually right wich I heavilly doubt
@@felipedaiber2991 well, there are still some remnants of selk'nam culture and language being maintained by the few descendants of their people, as well as apparently some records of their numerical system, but definitely their civilization was reduced to almost nothing compared to what they used to be. Selk'nam were not particularly belic, exemplified by their sense of community between clans, and they certainly weren't prepared for what the Spaniards and later the British did to them, treating them as animals. On a final note, there was a video floating around that showed the selk'nam myth of creation if you're interested, I think it's still around.
Saludos desde Argentina XD
Hi, so yo recommend anything in particular? I'd love to start reading about it
POV: You’re wondering through the woods and the fae are talking philosophy
Contessa Perales and I’m never leaving the woods now...
U kno the usual...
And out of the corner of your eye you spot him.... Shia LaBeuof
I mean if anyone is a Fae, its probably Olly
@@themodelrailwayman5470 His name matches the theme quite well too I'd say.
Abigail's wonder in her eyes talking about the magic of natural selection in the beginning was just perfect.
Don't mind me, just trawling through your back catalogue to see how many planks it takes before you're not Theseus's ship anymore.
my first laugh of the day, thanks
I'm suprised you didn't mention Alfred Wallace. He figured out natural selection around the same time as Darwin. He was also a socialist and while middle class, still firmly part of the working class. He had to fund his expeditions by selling his specimens as collectibles to rich people. Just like Darwin, he delayed publishing his findings for fear of the implications. Except what he feared was giving Malthusians more ammo. He eventually got over it, and because a mutual friend told Wallace that Darwin was working on something similar, they decided to submit their papers to the royal soicety together. Darwin just gets the credit because he was also sitting on a draft for Origin of the Species, which he published shortly afterwards.
Thanks! I hadnt ever heard of Alfred Wallace.
I knew someone else published the idea around the same time, but couldn't remember their name.
Didn’t Darwin specifically withhold some of Wallace’s stuff from publication so he wouldn’t get shown up by another person and commoner, no less? I think I’ve read that before...
Yeah, some discussion of Wallace would have been great. Wallace did lots of what Darwin did with far far less resources. Impressive guy
The same implication that he would be on the choping block? That is a common fear on his field, and well not many got away without being killed.
As a biologist, I'm loving this. My two cents are about the knobbly trees: there are certain species of soil bacteria that naturally genetically modify plants. They inject tumor-causing genes into the tree cells (and some biosynthetic genes for sugars that the bacteria can live off of) and then the bacteria colonize these tumors. We use these bacteria as an easy means of human-driven gene modification in plants. We just swap out the tumour-cousing gene for things we want the plant to make.
Also, Lamarck was retrospectively right. By accident. About something he couldn't have been thinking of at the time: CRISPR. How it occurs in bacteria is as hereditary adaptive immunity acquired during life and then passed onto the offspring cells. He was vindicated (in the most niche of niche cases) 😂
Damn, nature, you scary!
@@timplasket9111 First... Agrobacterium is what youre thinking i assume?. Secondly. While plasmids are acquired throughout life, its still the gene which is passed, not the trait it self. One of the mains points of lamark was the use/disuse theory of organ formation, which doesnt work even in bacteria. While a interesting point none the less, i still dont think you can say he was right.
@@Shermack98 Daniel Olmedo yes, I was talking about agrobacteria. Nasty smelling stuff when it's cultured in the lab 😂 but I wasn't sure off the top of my head if there are other genera that can do this (I mean, there probably are).
As to the Lamarckian nature of CRISPR. It's immunity acquired through the life of the bacteria and then passed to the offspring. Very broadly it applies but I was being tongue in cheek about it. I know it doesn't work as he originally intended
@@timplasket9111 Generally speaking, scientists of the past were very good at getting close enough to how something worked that they could adequately explain it with enough predictive power that the knowledge could be used in a useful manner, but getting the exact explanation wrong. We are still probably doing this with quantum dynamics, given the multitude of models that fulfill the requirements of quantum theory.
woah the fucking arson bit was insane, such a simple setup with so much depth, that story went 10 to a 1000 once you realise the full implied story...
So glad I turned captions on for this.
"And who gets to decide X" is one of the most important questions in a lot of debates/topics.
Recently i was talking about fact checks with a friend who has fallen down the alt-right pipeline, and he asked : but who gets to decide what's true?
It felt really akward for me
@@nanakigamer9852 Sorry for ya homie, hopefully he sees reality as it is again
Murdoch. Hope that helps.
But it's sometimes misguided. Many things aren't *decided* by anyone. You don't decide to see the chair; the chair is just there. Nobody gets to decide what statistical system is the most accurate. We can be wrong about things but it would be because of our unreasonableness and inaptness in deriving empirical data; but at no stage there would be a human exercising power over how things should be organized. Human could decide goals (which can have varying degrees of being inclusive of general interests) but not hypothetical imperatives which have to have an objective nature.
So true
POV: The man you're in a parasocial relationship with starts ranting about Communism & drinks condiments in the forest
A fun time uwu
And then, he turns around and she seems to be a woman now.
@@Kritikanbringer Honestly makes it a bit hotter. 😂🤣
Easily my favourite video of Philosophy Tube's, I think about it all the time. It kind of encapsulates rather a lot of the issues we're dealing with today, and it's expressed and explained so beautifully! Thank you so much for educating us Abigail 🥳🙌
I found your channel a couple of days ago, and I am addicted, you are so smart!
I am the Mom of a Transgender Daughter, and I am proud of her, and I am proud of YOU ❣️🤗 Hi from Canada 🇨🇦🌞
I told a guy I was born with a cleft and he instantly started talking about "you need to make sure not to have kids" 🙃
bet he’s an incel
Isn't that the oposite of being kind
Will you pass the trait to your kids?
If you do you advocate your kids suffering?
@@toserveman9317 well ethier way the guy was rude for saying that
@@toserveman9317 The problem is people like you. No. Of course not. Most people wit birth defects are not "transmittable" from next of kin. However most people are highly transmittable with dementia or cancer and you don't see eugenicists complain about them. It's all about being scientific.
Olly: Lets talk about fetishes
Me: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
Olly: But not like, a sexual fetish-
Me: Ah, alright. Another time then.
The philosophy of fetishes is fascinating. I hope he gets around to doing something like that someday
@@selkiejuice Just don't bring up Freud. Or do.
@@Silverwind87 very much do
✨ _sex~_ ✨
@@abg5381 s p o r t s .
"It's egg time"
Abi . . .
I watched this video again recently with subtitles, and the captions during the portion with Chopin were truly a work of art.
44:30 - "And the world was so horrified we stopped doing eugenics"
North Carolina Eugenics Board 1945-1974: "....yeah, about that..."
it's more accurate to say the places who had to come to terms with their own attrocities and mistakes were so horrified they stopped doing eugenics. America does lots of stupid stuff today because it didn't as much as europe did. Hence why they don't have medicare for all
@@smile-tl9in The Dutch apologized for the DEITC only this year.
@@smile-tl9in I don't know... a scientist in China recently admitted to creating designer twins with CRSPR germline edits, so some forms of eugenics are still in play. (BTW, universally, genetic scientists agree germ lines should NOT be touched at all until we fully understand all the implications and ramifications of each gene expression and interaction. What he did is considered a crime according to the UN, if I'm not mistaken.)
@@Original_Tenshi_Chan think that dude ended up going to prison. But given how relatively easy it seems to be to do though I expect we're gonna keep seeing this kind of genetic manipulation eugenics. Especially from wealthy people wanting to give their kids an edge
Ethan Harrell Don’t forget the CCP.
"Sobs Britishly" ... Ollie's subtitles are hilarious. Anyone who's watching without the subtitles on is really missing out.
I gotta watch this again with subtitles. Thank you!
Especially the Chopin bit
They are fantastic 😂
Only saw this comment in the last ten minutes of the video, but I’m very glad I took your advice.
Yes! His subtitles complete the experience!
I just found your channel today and I cannot stop listening to your points. I wish I was learning this kind of stuff instead of business. Guess education never ceases though.
A fantastic video Abigail. I struggled forming these very ideas during my Industrial Relations MA. You make it look so easy! Covid-19 has shown us another way....Personally, I wish that 'I could fish in the morning, hunt in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening and do critical theory at night, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, shepherd or critic'!
38:45
"My so-... m-my daughter. My little girl... She's having a bit of trouble finding who she is." he sais as he looks at a news story about a transgender firefighter.
Good god, I love how the Arsonists dialogue is jam-packed with all these subtle details about his story and worldview.
"I really hate fire, I guess you can say I'm anti-fire" *smiles after pronouncing it like "antifa"
That reminds me of the time Ben Shapiro used the correct pronouns of a transgender woman, if I recall correctly, just to one second later "correct" himself, while I don't particularly hate him, I found that action nothing but despicable.
Man, those two are divided in so many ways.
Imediately when he started talking as that character after he put down the paper i knew he was gonna talk about trans people lol
Mr. E. Nygma Geez, what a dick. Makes me want to constantly refer to Ben Shapiro using exclusively female pronouns just to make a point lol
Drinking game idea: take a shot every time Olly says "Elon Musk".
The catch: the shot is HP brown sauce
...and the brown sauce is fulled with COMMUNISM
read another book!
I'm too busy pouring it over myself to actually imbibe it.
another game idea: take a shot every time Olly says 'Elon Musk.'
The catch: it's a 7.62mm caliber shot through a billionaire's head
The way you lay and explain difficult subjects in a an easy and funny flowing manner, in this video and your other videos, makes you an artist. 👏
Great job on this video! You’ve clearly done a lot of thought and research and it really shows. You should be proud.
Abigail: Eugenics
Jacksaint: Has entered the chat
Spice8Rack: "But how does eugenics factor into a children's card game???"
@@KingBobXVI It factors in to soo many things...
@@evelienheerens2879
That feel when you accidentally put eugenics in your dnd campaign and your players agree that yeah we should wipe out all the evil goblins tribes and their savage ways... wait oops did we just do a genocide?
Imagine a collaboration with Jack Saint, Olly, and Donoteat01. We'd end up with the Third or Fourth International.
Which I don't mind, personally.
@@DetectiveMekova wait. weren't the fourth international Posadists?
"there isn't any slack in the system" says the people sitting on miles of rope while they slowly tighten the noose around the system they've bought themselves a place outside of
But there isn't though. That's why it breaks so easily. The system is optimized for efficiency but the trade-off is fragility. They're going down with the sinking ship too. Mars most likely won't be ready in time and a bunker in NZ armed to the teeth and living in constant nerve-shattering fear (how are they to pay Security handsomely enough to not insurrect after the apocalypse?) is their only other option. Either way, both are miserable existences.
@@intrograted792 You kid yourself. If anyone is actually equipped to survive the ensuing climate slow-motion cataclysm, it's the rich cocksuckers who created the problem. They can't solve it, or wouldn't if they could, but climate change isn't the sort of event to wipe out entire species. Besides technology already is in their hands. They'll live off the earth with just less people in it.
I literally brought up how carrying capacity is bullshit to my roommate in college. He literally responded "idk if you can get anyone to believe that." Burden of proof swapping is a god damn momentary psychosis.
"Hey Tom, can you send me a clip of you saying "It's egg time"? I need it for my video about Charles Darwin and Karl Marx in the segment where I explain fetishes."
“This isnt factstube”
I petition for a second channel that is factstube
Destroy ben shapiros feelings with actual facts
Shaun, Three Arrows and Some More News are great at that
Shaun is great. And he seems bored enough.
@Reg Eric ¿YES ?
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH ok boomer
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Of course you are here.
"and the hot sauce...is COMMUNISM"
damn i'll have what he's having
Same
My guy made an ENTIRE one hour long video about Darwin and Marx just to set up that one hot sauce joke!!! Don't deny it, Olly! 🤣🤣🤣
yes! it goes good with american food!
Me too
is it missing the point to say i want this on a t-shirt
Your point that natural selection isn’t random is so true! In fact, in the study of evolution, identifying changes which weren’t random indicates that selection happened, and that’s actually really hard to do, because often enough, neutral mutations like blonde hair in humans happen, which has absolutely no positive or negative impact. Also, as a leftist and a scientist, social Darwinism makes me absolutely livid.
The relationship between product and people is why I always cherish documentaries like How Its Made or series like the late Great Big Story. When you have popular media exploring the actual processes of creating products and shining lights on the workers, you get a lot more appreciation for what is being produced. It's a great way to bridge that gap if used effectively. Some people, like the History channel, use that to mystify the Elon Musks and the Fords and other such figures, but more genuine takes like the work of Anthony Bourdain are really helpful.
“I did a science”
- Karl Marx, 2020
In Liverpool: "I did that science mate".
@@twistedsymposium3744 214.3884.24 (?)
"I did a natural history"
You would be surprised how many communists and anarchists philosophers were biologists. Peter Krotpotkin wrote a paper about isolated cluster of ecosystems can develop to the point of being unrecognisable from the ecosystem they used to be connected to. Now we study lake Vostok in Antarctica as an example of life in extreme conditions isolated from the world.
"Queers on the Countryside" sounds like a great name for a band.
*Fabulous name for a band.
I like Kountryside Kweers more xD
@@jxxxhn the word "kweer" is used by transphobes so no.
@@ashboi4 then we should just simply reclaim it and make it ours, right?
Especially if they were an actual country band.
Amazing channel dude, I really enjoyed your walk-talk into the wild.
You seem to have quite some knowledge there combined with some dark British humor which I again do admire enormously.
Brilliant and wonderful! This video took my mind off the pandemic, war in Ukraine and my own pain. Thank you for all your talent and energy in producing this gem. The relief I've experienced from enjoying this production has re-energized me and made it possible to go back into real life and meet the challenges I was burned out on before I watched it.
As a blind person, the whole “killing all the blind and deaf” portion of the eugenics section of the video hit differently lol. My initial response was, “hey! We got a shout out in a philosophy tube video!! Yay! Terrible context but yay”? Also I would absolutely love that deep dive into disability that he kinda alluded to possibly doing one day. I would like to see an analysis of how eugenics possibly, as a school of thought, has come to shape how we collectively treat and think about disability today. Overall awesome video and I love these super long ones!
I really hope this isn't offensive but I found it interesting that you were blind. How did you find the video and type this out? Do you have a computer that narrates what you are doing or do you have brail on your keyboard?
@@parvislupisnavis1209 you should really poke around the accessibility settings that you have on your computer. Not to mention that you can just Google what sorts of software are out there for differently-abled people.
I know that feel as wheelchair user with a very German last name. I think Ollie is the kind of TH-camr who would work to really include disabled perspectives, so that hinted video would be appreciated.
@brmbly Or Jessica Forzard (multiple disability and vintage fashion). A British disability roundtable would be brilliant.
ParvisLupis Navis I’ve been subscribed to the channel for a bit so that’s how I found the video. It popped up in my home feed. All apple products have a built in screen reader called voiceover. You can find it in settings and toggle it on to see how it works. Also, windows computers have their own built in screen reader but most blind people use a third party one such as jaws or NVDA. Google either of those or search them on TH-cam to see more. If you want to learn a bit more about blindness, I suggest checking out molly Burke here on TH-cam. She’s a great TH-camr on the blindness topic. She does a bunch of other non blindness related stuff too but her playlists regarding blindness are pretty accurate and I think she’s a good representative of the community. Her experience isn’t true for all blind people because blindness is a spectrum but her stuff is still quite good for getting a general overview.
"What was the vibe in Victorian Britain?"
"Quickly, orphans, turn the enormous cog wheel faster so I can buy a steam engine to turn it instead and throw all of you into the gutter!"
The passage of child labour laws put Oliver Twist out of work and forced him into a life of crime.
@@aethelyfel7573 it's almost like it's a highly complex situation that can't be solved without deeply changing our society :S
You explain your topics so well. You must do to keep me entertained for an hour or so as my attention span is often fleeting.
"You've got two tall people, they produce a baby, and that baby grows up to be tall"
God I wish that were me
"...that we can create a society that lasts a thousand years" That sentence alone set off every single alarm bell. The Arsonist is just such a great character, all the charisma and disguise of the modern fascist, but you can clearly pick out the subtle hints to the truth
Holy SHIT. That is an amazing catch
Sorry to ask, what's the link to fascism in that line? Is it that fascists believe that their superior society would last a long time, or is it something itself more malicious? I wouldn't even know what to google to learn more about this particular red flag!
Max Shanahan “Ein Tausend Jahre Reich” (a thousand years Reich) is a phrase used by the Nazis,
@@AnIridescentWolf @Reg Eric thank you so much! I wouldn't have picked up on that at all, but a good thing to know and be able to recognise.
"Chopin continues, like a toddler playing with a live grenade who cannot hear or understand your warnings"
Damn those subtitles. Damn.
Oh heck I guess I need to watch again with subtitles
"sobs in British"
Does anyone know the name of the piece of music?
@@victorbalaguer99 Chopin's Nocturne op. 9 No. 2
It's used often in film and I've seen it used more for psychopathic antagonists. It is a beautiful piece though.
@@penguindrum264 thanks mate ^^
"I'm putting hot sauce in my omlette, and the hot sauce is COMMUNISM"
Oh my word, the extra narration in the subtitles is just constantly ... *chef's kiss*
"I dunno how they get like that. They're really quite pretty."
Then the witch stuck inside blushes and gestures her hand as if to say "oh psh," but you can tell it made her happy
She'd still harvest your organs if she was free but it would be kindly
I am _so_ confused. And strangely aroused.
Not unless you volunteer them to me . Are you ?
"Its rare that people are as malthusian as Scrooge these days"
Lol, as a homeless man in America, no it's not. Especially since Trump. It's so common.
Shoo, shoo, homeless person!!! How dare you try to invade my space with your poor poeple mind. *Whacks you with a broom* 🧹😠💢
@@nightslasher9384 I find this Republican
@@firmi_2119 :O *Runs away from the Democrat police*
Fuck those people, not literally (unless you want to ofc). I've been homeless, now I'm not. Still the same person. Love to you ❤️
@@samprada9298 Eww, I hate spider people!!! 🤭🤢🤮
Legit, Abigail is the kind of person I like hiking with. Finding out random bits of trivia while being surrounded by gorgeous nature is one of my favorite things.
I really love ur work. Its hard to find in my main languages something like this. Keep on the good job. Greetings from Barcelona!
"...otherwise we'd all be knee-deep in salmon by now."
*grizzly bears have entered the chat*
*I* have entered the chat! Smoked salmon is so tasty :)
_giggles_
🎶 We've been spending all our life living in a grizzly's paradise 🎶
@@thepatbackexperience4573 Given the normalcy with which certain types of white men shoot grizzlies due to presumed ferocity, your satire of Gangsta's Paradise is pretty fucking macabre.
"I'm putting hot sauce in my omelette. And the hot sauce...IS COMMUNISM"
Well done. I enjoyed this video and I am glad there are people out there that can draw logical lines of thought to concepts that I have felt intuitively. Much appreciated and keep up the good work
Still a rompin’ episode. I enjoyed the rewatch. Thanks and congrats, Abigail.
Title of the video: “Charles Darwin vs. Karl Marx.”
Me: *”Oh shit, did Olly do a collab with Epic Rap Battles of History?”*
The fact that they haven't brought in Marx is a travesty. If they do, they should probably hire Olly as a script consultant.
whoa shit dude I saw your name and I thought you were me for a second
Aren’t they a dead channel?
@@Iandar1 nah they still post on the community tab
Video Length: 1:01:26
Must be one hell of a rap battle
“I’m putting hot sauce in my omelette and the hot sauce is Communism”
I choked on my dinner at that.
51:57
Truly elevates the dish.
That was probably my favorite line in this, definitely made me chuckle aloud.
Hot sauce is rape!!! 🥵
i don't get it, can someone explain
@@jdoe8691 Spicing things up
I love the backdrop. A walk in nature and a great conversation about philosophy.