Matt, Thanx for taking the time and posting these videos. I've learned so much from you and the other guys on TH-cam. It has helped me and the quality of my models.
Problem is that alluminata looks like a fancy kind of aluminium for us non-Italian speakers. I believe their newer bottles actually say "aluminized," or mine does anyway.
etc7 I see your point, but considering that's an italian brand producing a color for italian planes, they're hardly at fault if someone doesn't know what it is 😊
Thank you for the review, it’s just nice to have someone to test out the new stuff. One thing though is that if you tune the air pressure way high up like 30psi and spray a bit further away and very lightly like a light mist coat you will get a mirror finish. All lacquer chrome needs to be done that way
Heavy exposure (like - industrial level) can cause neurological problems. Not a signicant issue for hobby use with a respirator and good ventilation, but worth treating with respect.
Thank you very much for doing this type of real world proper comparison. Now i know juat what color I want to use for some NMF jets coming up. I also learned a lot, and like the results of using your blackbasing technique. Preshading just looks so cartooney to me now. Keep up the great work, and keep doing it your way, language included!
On the Kcolors, are you shooting it straight out of the bottle or are you thinning it down with what??? As for "Clean Up", what do you use??? "Thanks"!
Straight. Cleanup...they have a pump spray cleaner that I use for the initial pass, then lacquer thinner after. It's alcohol-based though - so IPA should probably work as well.
nice comparison, thank you. I swiched to kcolors a while ago. the chrome is tricky sometimes, but the allover range of special effect paint is awesome. I also think that the Alluminata is fine. was is smooth in the finish?
Do you thin down the gaia chrome mirror paint? I have a bottle and can’t find anything on weather or not you need to thin it.. looks so thin I’m the bottle
For the record, the Gaia Chrome is only that expensive because of the difficulty of importing, I've seen it on Hobby shops in Japan and Hong Kong for any where from $12-$17. Also, I've seen it applied (by random modelers, not the official demo photos) where you can actually see the person taking the picture in clear detail. The problem is, it demands an absolutely perfect surface, doesn't even have to be black, just perfect, which would mean polishing out to probably 12k grit.
@@DoogsModels sorry, I guess I missed the word Gunze. Thank you for replying. Picked up an old Revell Honda bike from the 60s. Though the 3 chrome trees are in original sealed packages, they will need recoating. Best chrome recommended? Closest to simulate original flash plating? Any suggestions?
can someone tell me where i can get the gianotes in uk. looking on amazon and google i can't find anything. i dont mind paying shipping but i can't seem to find the stuff, only one site where it was out of stock.
Always fun to watch your work! I find the discussion to be very informative. You achieve some fantastic paintwork effects and are very knowledgeable. Love your experimentation. Did you thin the GX2? what ratio and thinner, please?
Spoons aren't terrible for seeing color, but the fuselage works better imo since it gives a more real world example of what you're going to get out of it, complete with rivets/panel lines, curves and flat areas.
Very nice. Thanks for the video. Did you thin the Kcolors paints with IPA then? Also, I know you're a fan of the Mr Paint stuff. Have you tried their metallics? If so, any opinions?
No thinning of the Kcolors - the stuff is exceptionally thin as is. As for MRP, I ha and use a bunch of their metallics, and like them a lot, but none of the ones I have shine like this, and from what I understand the ones that do are fragile.
60 Steel gets my vote and appearances tell me the gaianotes while good cannot justify that ridiculous price tag! Where do you recommend purchasing the K Color paints from in the US? I would be curious to know your take on the 2K color paints. Another TH-camr I follow did a really detailed video series on them and had some fantastic results with them. It would interesting to know if it is worth the hassle going with a 2 part paint vs what you tested with. Any notes on that or have you used the 2K before?
Very true but something to consider is using 2K for the base. Because of the strength and the high gloss it makes for a kick ass base for any chrome finish. That would really be the only reason to use a 2K in this application but I have seen it in action and it is effective and worth consideration. Something else to consider is not even a paint but rather a powder or pigment. One I have seen is called Uschi van der Rosten´s Metallic powder. Check out the tests that will pattison did, it is very compelling for sure. Still from your tests I am still convinced the 60 steel or the first one you did is probably all that anyone would need.
@@DoogsModels Hey pal. Can you tell me if the Gx2 gloss black is an Acrylic, enamel or laquer please. Thanks for your awesome vids and keep on the good work!
Hey Matt hope your well. Just to give you a tip to try! When using any of these almost watery metal metallic finishes you need to turn your air pressure right down to about 12 to 15 or as low as you can go. Yes I know that sounds crazy! Then spray from quit a distance away from your work. Because these paints are thinned so heavily they need time to react before they reach the part that your painting. Low air pressure and distance is the key to getting the very best out of them. It's the total opposite to what you do with the thicker, more heavier colour paints.
Great videos man, but one or two advices - change the compressor for the silent type like HTC-20A. Invest in lavalier, and shut off this AC or some annoying fan. Best regards
Best video I've seen on these 'chrome paints" and I have watched a ton as I have several large 1/4 super figure status that require chroming. Great job in comparing them all.
Actually I find the Chrome (right fuselage, front) the most interesting, not the steel, because it somehow creates a super interesting tonal variation.
Man sux for me to say this but u bought the wrong one!!!!! It’s gaianotes “plate silver” It can get confusing since the chrome is old and kinda blows compared to the plate silver. Also my god $30 wtf plz stop buying paints at mark up and visit my man www.sealmodel.com. Tell him Adolph sent you! Once you see the prices You will smile.
Thanks, these are exactly the paints I've purchased but yet to try out. Glad to find a vid on them. That said, do you really need to throw in the random cussing / F-bombs? Had to scramble for my headphones to keep it out of my kid's ears... Wasn't expecting that as you otherwise have a smooth, easy to listen to voice.
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This is my first vid of your channel. The way you tossed those spoons I subscribed.
Matt, Thanx for taking the time and posting these videos. I've learned so much from you and the other guys on TH-cam. It has helped me and the quality of my models.
Fantastic color. Where do we buy?
The Alluminata is an Italian WWII color, it was used only on fabric surfaces, and that finish actually looks just right !
that explains it :-) thanks!
Problem is that alluminata looks like a fancy kind of aluminium for us non-Italian speakers. I believe their newer bottles actually say "aluminized," or mine does anyway.
etc7 I see your point, but considering that's an italian brand producing a color for italian planes, they're hardly at fault if someone doesn't know what it is 😊
pgabrieli: well said. I agree.
Was the part primed before applying the glossy black paint??
Heard the $30, the words that then came out of my mouth weren't "Ok, cool". The 60 Steel looks more reflective than the chrome.
Thank you for the review, it’s just nice to have someone to test out the new stuff. One thing though is that if you tune the air pressure way high up like 30psi and spray a bit further away and very lightly like a light mist coat you will get a mirror finish. All lacquer chrome needs to be done that way
Dhere do I get Kcolor? Does it still exist?
I'm new to airbrushing and painting in general, what are the dangers of MEK that you mentioned?
Heavy exposure (like - industrial level) can cause neurological problems. Not a signicant issue for hobby use with a respirator and good ventilation, but worth treating with respect.
What did you end up sealing the Mirror Chrome with?
Great video! Do you need to thin the paint down for airbrushing? thanks
no
Even the gaia?
The gaianotes chrome paint need to polished after paint ? Coz i saw other chrome colour need to polished
Did he say where he picked up his K Color paints in the US?
Thank you very much for doing this type of real world proper comparison. Now i know juat what color I want to use for some NMF jets coming up. I also learned a lot, and like the results of using your blackbasing technique. Preshading just looks so cartooney to me now. Keep up the great work, and keep doing it your way, language included!
On the Kcolors, are you shooting it straight out of the bottle or are you thinning it down with what??? As for "Clean Up", what do you use??? "Thanks"!
Straight. Cleanup...they have a pump spray cleaner that I use for the initial pass, then lacquer thinner after. It's alcohol-based though - so IPA should probably work as well.
"Thanks".
Thanks for showing this. KColors look great!
Whats with the light color/silvery stuff on the ends of the tape seen on 60 and 61, was seen just when removing but it was then hidden witb the thumb?
I noticed that too, but couldnt see anything on the surface where it was painted that indicated that it had lifted the paint anywhere.
It's lift from the bench surface where I stuck the tape before applying it.
@@DoogsModels presumed, but thought perhaps it lifted edges where maybe gloss was not shot at
Have you tried new Gunze SuperMetallics (thinned with their new Rapid Thinner)?
Whats the ratio to use on the airbrush?
nice comparison, thank you. I swiched to kcolors a while ago. the chrome is tricky sometimes, but the allover range of special effect paint is awesome. I also think that the Alluminata is fine. was is smooth in the finish?
The alluminata is more matte, it's supposed to simulate aluminium lacquer paint rather than actual aluminium metal.
Do you thin down the gaia chrome mirror paint? I have a bottle and can’t find anything on weather or not you need to thin it.. looks so thin I’m the bottle
Nope - shoot it straight
For the record, the Gaia Chrome is only that expensive because of the difficulty of importing, I've seen it on Hobby shops in Japan and Hong Kong for any where from $12-$17. Also, I've seen it applied (by random modelers, not the official demo photos) where you can actually see the person taking the picture in clear detail. The problem is, it demands an absolutely perfect surface, doesn't even have to be black, just perfect, which would mean polishing out to probably 12k grit.
Can you provide details about your black primer?
I mean...it's there in the video. Gunze GX2.
@@DoogsModels sorry, I guess I missed the word Gunze. Thank you for replying. Picked up an old Revell Honda bike from the 60s. Though the 3 chrome trees are in original sealed packages, they will need recoating. Best chrome recommended? Closest to simulate original flash plating? Any suggestions?
61 chrome looks good for a weathered finish..like the warm tone.
What type of clear paint sealer do you recommend...
Who carries KColors in North America?
www.hobbyworld-usa.com/Store/index.php
can someone tell me where i can get the gianotes in uk. looking on amazon and google i can't find anything.
i dont mind paying shipping but i can't seem to find the stuff, only one site where it was out of stock.
Always fun to watch your work! I find the discussion to be very informative. You achieve some fantastic paintwork effects and are very knowledgeable. Love your experimentation.
Did you thin the GX2? what ratio and thinner, please?
Awesome Video.
Spoons aren't terrible for seeing color, but the fuselage works better imo since it gives a more real world example of what you're going to get out of it, complete with rivets/panel lines, curves and flat areas.
$30 for a little bottle of super Chrome, I hope the manufacturer put something in the thinner to give the buyer a nice high as an added bonus.
Hi Matt,
Have you given Zero Paints Chrome a try? On small surfaces, it's quite good, and much less expensive than the Gaia paint.
S.
MEK 😆 we used that to clean aircraft grade resin off of metal
Very nice. Thanks for the video. Did you thin the Kcolors paints with IPA then? Also, I know you're a fan of the Mr Paint stuff. Have you tried their metallics? If so, any opinions?
No thinning of the Kcolors - the stuff is exceptionally thin as is.
As for MRP, I ha and use a bunch of their metallics, and like them a lot, but none of the ones I have shine like this, and from what I understand the ones that do are fragile.
60 Steel gets my vote and appearances tell me the gaianotes while good cannot justify that ridiculous price tag! Where do you recommend purchasing the K Color paints from in the US?
I would be curious to know your take on the 2K color paints. Another TH-camr I follow did a really detailed video series on them and had some fantastic results with them. It would interesting to know if it is worth the hassle going with a 2 part paint vs what you tested with. Any notes on that or have you used the 2K before?
Hobbyworld-USA has some of the Kcolors, otherwise it's best to email them, get a modeling specific catalog, and go from there.
As for 2K...the 2K stuff I've seen is more geared toward tough, high-gloss applications, which aren't really my thing.
Very true but something to consider is using 2K for the base. Because of the strength and the high gloss it makes for a kick ass base for any chrome finish. That would really be the only reason to use a 2K in this application but I have seen it in action and it is effective and worth consideration. Something else to consider is not even a paint but rather a powder or pigment. One I have seen is called Uschi van der Rosten´s Metallic powder. Check out the tests that will pattison did, it is very compelling for sure. Still from your tests I am still convinced the 60 steel or the first one you did is probably all that anyone would need.
@@DoogsModels Hey pal. Can you tell me if the Gx2 gloss black is an Acrylic, enamel or laquer please. Thanks for your awesome vids and keep on the good work!
David Panagopulo
Mr. color GX is lacquer based
Hey Matt hope your well.
Just to give you a tip to try! When using any of these almost watery metal metallic finishes you need to turn your air pressure right down to about 12 to 15 or as low as you can go. Yes I know that sounds crazy!
Then spray from quit a distance away from your work.
Because these paints are thinned so heavily they need time to react before they reach the part that your painting. Low air pressure and distance is the key to getting the very best out of them.
It's the total opposite to what you do with the thicker, more heavier colour paints.
That's nice but I was actually spraying closer to 10
Hi Matt! Great test. Have you ever tried using TS-83?
I haven't, but I've used AS-12 plenty of times. Despite being called bare metal silver, it gets closer to the look of aluminum lacquer.
Also, whats the durability of Kstuff before gloss coat? I have issues with Alclad stuff(polised aluminium,chrome...) rubbing off fairly easily
It'll lift a little - not much but enough to discern where the tape was. Nowhere near as bad as Alclad high-shines with rubbing off though.
Please can you give me the Email & web URL of Kcolor if you have ? Thanks
Great videos man, but one or two advices - change the compressor for the silent type like HTC-20A. Invest in lavalier, and shut off this AC or some annoying fan. Best regards
Thank you, nice review.
Best video I've seen on these 'chrome paints" and I have watched a ton as I have several large 1/4 super figure status that require chroming. Great job in comparing them all.
Actually I find the Chrome (right fuselage, front) the most interesting, not the steel, because it somehow creates a super interesting tonal variation.
You forgot gaia has tetra hydroxyzine too!🙄
Jman
Like eddie murphy said in beverly hills cop 2 said "thirty dollas"!😳
Jman👀
Man sux for me to say this but u bought the wrong one!!!!! It’s gaianotes “plate silver” It can get confusing since the chrome is old and kinda blows compared to the plate silver.
Also my god $30 wtf plz stop buying paints at mark up and visit my man www.sealmodel.com. Tell him Adolph sent you! Once you see the prices You will smile.
Thanks, these are exactly the paints I've purchased but yet to try out. Glad to find a vid on them. That said, do you really need to throw in the random cussing / F-bombs? Had to scramble for my headphones to keep it out of my kid's ears... Wasn't expecting that as you otherwise have a smooth, easy to listen to voice.
doogsmodels.com/2016/11/16/no/
@@DoogsModels Very mature...
Kip Max 65 More mature than feeling entitled to tell a grown man how he can talk on his own fucking TH-cam channel...
ценная информация!
And no not god damn HWUSA where stuffs back ordered for months!😡 slitting my wrists now!😳
Jman👀
No worries brotha stop paying crazy prices like these guys!
Sealmodel.com tell him Adolph sent ya ;)
J