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Regarding players with Wemby's height (and frame), the closest comp is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who avoided major injuries for most of his career and played 21 seasons.
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The injury concern is legitimate because people of that height have a really hard time recovering from injuries to their legs or feet due to their sheer size, that being said there are durable big men out there like jokic who plays damn near every game
@@ZachWilsonsMomsFriend oh I know I was just giving a counterexample because they asked how sure of a thing it was in the video. I also think jokic’s lack of explosive jumping and whatnot prevents that wear and tear that so many other big men suffer from
Jokic is "only" 6'11 so the increased risk of injury doesn't actually affect him. It's perfectly reasonable to expect Jokic to continue to be very very durable.
@@eva11883 the difference in height is probably balanced out by the fact jokic is also 280lbs, that adds an injury risk as well. As I said before I think the way jokic plays is just very consistent and he doesn’t put himself in much danger
Its almost a statistical guarantee that a player of his height will have lower body injury issues. Although I hope he is able to overcome this... I would love to see this kid have a full career, because it would be special.
The thing that's weird with him though compared to other bigs his size in the past, none besides Ralph Sampson were as mobile and as agile as him. With Modern Medicine it's honeslty gonna be exciting to watch how he deals with possible injuries. His frame is a really good base to build on, he's got a Giannis like frame (excluding height and wingpsan) when you compare skinny Giannis to him, the frames do look similar. It helps show that he could actually put on more weight than say a Chet Holmgren who has a really bad frame compared to Wemby's and it doesnt look like Chet will be able to put on as much as Wemby's frame can.
@@dylandavis9833 "mobile and as agile as him" that's the scary thing though. There has never been a player his height that was tasked to do even a fraction of what Wemby is capable of. His overall load on the court will be way higher which = greatly increased risk of injury, even compared to the past guys his size, who were mainly just lumbering shot blockers and rebounders in the paint. All that agility and mobility will come at a cost. I also think the Giannis comparison is pointless. Giannis is 6'10.5" compared to Wemby's 7'4". Massive difference. There has never been a player over 7'1" / 7'2" who became a superstar in terms of talent and skill. And even if we just look at all players that height, there has never been a single one whose career wasn't diminished by injuries.
I make the Giannis comparison to compare frames. Showing that Wemby has a frame that could build a substantial amount of muscle. If you compare his frame to Chet's it is drastically different and you can easily tell who could put more weight on. Plus he's going to the Spurs, the team that literally created load management, so that we'll help him a lot cause they will know how to handle him and his workload/@@Washanuga
@@dylandavis9833 workload will not matter that much tbh. with stick arms and legs like he has, he will suffer way more from injuries while banging around with others below the basket, and especially when landing on feet etc. his injuries will most likely result from shock, rather than wear and tear.
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I think he’s gonna be fine tbh. After doing similar fascia type work, my lower legs have become indestructible. He’s obviously 7’5, but we’ve seen legends do it like Kareem, with less medical knowledge.
@@KSSportsReports yea his career hasn't started so it can't be derailed, and we don't have enough info to know if it'll affect his career heavily. it's too early to say one way or the other
1 year later this video aged like milk. Victor Wembanyama had a way better rookie year than LeBron. He lead the league in blocks and became the first rookie in Nba history to post 26ppg 13rebs 5assists and 4.5blks per 36 minutes.
The injuries are a genuine concern, simply because he is sooo damn tall and the record of injuries for NBA players over 7ft 3 (granted it's a small list) is shocking. Like 75% have major career ending injuries. However, his mobility and how in proportion his body is, is a great sign. I wouldn't want him to put on too much weight, just slowly does it and he'll be good. What's almost most impressive about Wemby is how professional, grounded, and humble he is already! He seems to have a good team around him, that combinded with the joining the Spurs who are a fantastic organisation who will look after him and allow him to flourish gives me hope that he'll have a all-time legendary career
His Game and Body frame reminds me of Kevin Garrett As a Rookie…he’s a taller Garnett…I didn’t watch any of his games in France…/ but I will watch the Spurs SUMMER LEAGUE games to look at him….One thing is he went to the PERFECT Place for him in San Antonio….😂….it’s stuff like that that makes people 😡 😂😂😂😂
Victor has openly said he doesn't want to bulk up, just add strength - He also said he wants to play the 4 (Power Forward) and not 5 (Center) - Wishing him the best, but I think his going to be cooked by injuries... He also choked in the Summer League.. Which does highlight that time to learn amongst the NBA talent is going to need to be taken into account.
The injury concerns come from this basic principle: tall, lean players have frames not built to maintain the higher stresses caused by weight and the forces caused my running, jumping, and changing direction quickly. As a player gets taller and heavier, they become more and more likely to face major injuries to the feet and knees as a direct result of either putting on the weight to stop strong bigs or trying to out-move smaller players.
I can’t speak to the science of it, but it has certainly seemed to me over the years that guys well over 7’ almost always have foot problems that catch up with them. I hope that Wemby, growing up in this new generation of sports science, has a leg up on big men of the past with all we know now. He’s a one-of-a-kind talent
Injury concerns are definitely valid. Pretty much every big man especially around his height deals with lower body injuries, primarily their feet. Joel Embiid missed his first two seasons after being drafted dealing with foot issues and still misses significant time due to injury every year
The World Cup of basketball is happening end of August so check that out. Wemby is not playing for France however. Good for us Canadian fans as we have them in our group. The FIBA World Cup obviously isn’t as big as FIFA but basketball is trending upward globally and the NBA is featuring much more worldwide talent, and the euro leagues are getting better. All in all it adds up to a lot of hype this year that perhaps wasn’t always present in years past.
Nearly every player in the NBA that’s around Wemby’s size has had either a season ending injury or a career ending injury. Yao Ming had to retire due to a back injury, Porzingis tore his ACL and hasn’t been the same since, 7’4” Ralph Sampson had to retire due to knee and back issues. The list goes on and on.
Actuality I think John Hollinger ran an analysis like 10 years ago and he did find a positive correlation to likelihood of injury and height. I think the increased risk started at 7'1 or 7'2, it didn't actually apply to 7'0 even. But yes, the more you go above 7'1 or so the more likely you are to have significant injury issues.
He's a 3 in a 5 body... he'll get stun locked if he posts up against the big centers.... I think he needs to keep moving and crash the boards to get 20 points consistently....by moving I mean he needs to stay in that 15 foot range, he'll have height advantage vs. A typical 6'7" help side defender...my guess is that he needs to play a 4, hit the 10-15 footers and then crash the boards...now on defense, he's a great shutdown option to defend the game tieing or winning 3 point attempts because of his length...it would definitely try to put him on the best 3 pointer guy under 20 seconds left in the game...he has mobility
injuries are a concern, but people are optimistic about Victor for a few reasons: 1) he has unusual coordination and fluidity at that size. the guys at his size or higher who had bad injuries were stiff and couldn't move their bodies athletically. 2) he has a perimeter game, with guard-like ball handling and potential shooting, so he doesn't need to post up all the time and bang with big guys on offense. 3) sports medicine has improved hugely, and Wemby has always worked with people to help him develop and gain weight in the most efficient and safest way possible
to answer your question about the tall players and injuries, the little group of players listed is probably over 50% of the league's players that's been over 7'3. the injury rate in terms of % really does jump WAY up when talking about insanely tall players btw im someone who thinks Wemby can avoid major injuries. he's gonna get hurt, everyone does. but I don't think he'll be drowning in injuries like everyone thinks. but stuff like length of limbs definitely increases chance for injury to happen one way or another
NBA players body types are unique among athletes. In what other sport is a 7ft 4in person perfect for?? It's hard to imaging living in that body 24/7 when the world is made for much smaller people. My brother in law is 6'9 and you should see him getting in and out of his car with his arthritic knees and ankles. He played college basketball at a small Oregon college back in the late 70's and that was the only time his height was truly useful for him. According to him, it is pretty miserable being excessively tall. NBA players seem to sit out for ANY injury at all. In some sports you can play through some injuries, but players in the NBA miss a lot of games due to minor injuries. The nature of the game with it constant running, jumping, cuts and change of directions really tax these big lanky bodies and joints. They really suffer as they age too. My prediction for Victor is that he will also be quite prone to injury. I also think that all of the expectation placed on this young man will result in so much criticism and added pressure that he may wish he hadn't garnered so much attention. I hope I am wrong. He has be handled by the best sports science professionals available who have developed personalized exercises and workouts for Victor and his unique size challenges. Lets hope that his body responds by developing into a solid NBA big man physique that can handle the rigors of a 82 regular season game schedule. *If given the choice, I'd prefer to be a Othani or Trout and make my $600 million dollars playing baseball for 20 years. Then ride off into the sunset and enjoy the rest of my life as a normal size human being.
Being taller is harder on your frame and joints, so yes, you can kind of predict that, barring some miracle or if he just doesn't get much playing time, he will almost certainly have some wear and tear injruies during his career. The team's docs and PTs will try to manage and prevent it, but it's almost inevetiable at his size. That's why the guy brought up other guys at or near his size; the injuries are expected and certainly were considered in his draft stock.
Really tall dudes have issues with their knees. He has the same frame like 7'4" Ralph Sampson who also came to the NBA with a lot of hype. Tall dudes with really small knees have issues. But a lot physical stuff have been removed from the NBA so he won't get a beating like past players. The Spurs have the best coach in the NBA, he will be a huge success.
He also likes to set high screens around the three point line, and often is late to them, sticking out his leg to still kinda catch someone with it and flop. But that also makes him very susceptible to knee injuries. There was already a situation in his first or second game with the Spurs where you could see that this will most likely become an issue for him.
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His body looks like he'll fill out like Kevin Durant or Kevin Garnett. You can stay slim with height. Anytime an addition like this comes to the NBA, it's great fun. Predicting injury goes for all athletes at any level, we have no idea yet.
The reason injuries is a concern is because Draft Picks (especially High Draft Picks) are a coveted asset and it will set your franchise back if you waste your Draft Pick on someone who can't stay healthy (not to mention in the NBA it's even more highly coveted because you only get 2 picks a draft)....Look no further what the effects of Portland picking Greg Oden #1 Overall in 2007- Portland has not recovered since that unfortunate Draft.
I'd be willing to bet big money he won't reach the greatest heights of his potential due to injuries. If he does, it'll be the most unprecedented event in NBA history by far. There has never been a player over 7'1" / 7'2" who was a superstar/top 5 player in the league. The thing is, Wemby is going to be asked to do a hell of a lot for one player. In this modern NBA, he'll handle the ball, make plays, shoot from all distances, guard the paint and even the perimeter on occasion. In the past, guys his height were basically not tasked to do anything other than be lumbering shot blockers and rebounders in the paint. His skill set is far beyond that. He's like a C, a wing, and a big SG rolled up into one person. That just means the risk of injury is increased tremendously. I hope I'm wrong, because it would be fun as hell and incredible if he can stay healthy and reach those heights.
I can't name a player taller than Shaq (7'1") and Wilt Chamberlain (also 7'1") who hasn't had injury trouble. And those were much larger players. On the other hand, Manute Bol was 7'7" and -- before coming to the US -- weighed 180 lbs. Six months later, he was 220 lbs. Granted in his case it was more just a lack of available food in his native South Sudan, but even so, I expect Wembanyama will put on some weight if you get him traditional, greasy, American junk food. Edit: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was 7'2", and he's pretty much the model of NBA longevity. Still, it's pretty rare that anyone *much* over 7 feet has long-term success.
Most players over 7'2 have injuries that shorten their careers. Almost all of them are not fluid in the way they move and lack agility. That's what makes Wemby different and a curious case in terms of staying healthy. The closest thing we have ever seen to Wemby's mobility and agility is Ralph Sampson who's career was shortened due to injury. It's honestly pretty exciting to see how he handles injuries because Modern Medicine has become so developed over time so we can see how much that can lengthen Wemby's career. He's gonna get hurt, it's sports, everyone gets hurt at some point, but it's about how he deals with the injuries. I personally think he will be the first nba player at his size to have a decently long career that is consitently effective.
He's probably the most flexible tall guy ever seen in the NBA ! Just have a look on of one of his fitness training available on YT, it's Amazing how he's flexible ! And this flexibilty protect him of many injuries that big men have. Regarding he played in France, Come on ! He played against 30' years old men every weekend since his 16 ! Also play European matchs, and international matchs with France. A pro experience in a european championship is a huge advantage when you're a kid like Victor, better than play in US university. Just have a look on European players who are actually taking over the NBA. Sorry for my "frenchglish'🇨🇵🇨🇵 And go Victor !!!
Jxmyhighroller made a video about Wemby and in it he showed stats about bigmen and injury problems. I think it would show you just how injury prone bigmen are.
People forget he’s 19 what 7’4 19 is gonna be huge I think he’s got a good base frame for someone this young look at giannis his rookie year vs now not saying he’ll be that big but he could get to a Hakeem like build
It’s a fact that players that of that size are more injury prone. Actually, the sample of players that are around Wemby’s size is very small because they’re just physical freaks, but I’m pretty sure they’ve ALL had to deal with injuries. I don’t think a human body is meant to be that size while still being capable of handling the full workload that an NBA athlete has.
Sadly there isn't a load of players his height who didn't get injured. There's been VERY few nba players over 7'4. Been around 15 in 75 years. Almost every one has injury issues or drastically cut short careers
There honestly haven’t been a lot of players his height. The video wasn’t being hyperbolic that most of them suffered injuries. The greatest guy that was insanely tall, Yao Ming, only played 8 seasons because of feet and knee problems. Most centers in the league are considered tall do they are 6 foot 11 to 7 feet. Over 7 feet is actually rare even in a league of giants.
Definitely check out some Chet Holmgren highlights if you can squeeze them in before the NBA season. He had a lot of hype coming out of high school and didn’t disappoint in college. Got injured, but has showed some really good stuff in this years summer league.
7'6 Hall of Fame center Yao Ming could only manage 7 full seasons of play due to injury. 7'0 all star Brad Daugherty could only manage 8 seasons of play. 7'4 Hall of Famer Ralph Sampson after his third season only managed to play 213 of a possible 492 games over the next 6 seasons before retiring. 7'0 #1 pick Greg Oden (2007) only managed to play 105 total games due to injury. And even the healthiest centers that tall don't manage to play for a super long time. 7'4 Mark Eaton played 11 years and 7'4 Rik Smits pulled out 12 healthy years. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the one big anomaly. At 7'2, he managed to play for over 1500 games in 20 seasons, and over 200 playoff games as well. Unfortunately, he's the exception.
As a Spurs fan for life, I hope for great things. He's a supremely talented and solid young man and has said nothing but the right things. But... I have watched Yao, Sampson, Smits, Kristaps, etc. and it has become obvious to me that the Lord did not design 7-foot 4-inch humans to pound up and down a hardwood floor 100 nights out of the year, plus practices. Their feet and knees just can't take it. Victor's physio team knows this, too, and much of his fitness regime is dedicated to strengthening his feet, but can you really do that? Is the first time he lands on someone's foot going to be the start of a injury-filled career? I wish him a long and trophy-laden career, but it would be a fight against history, to be certain.
….he said “if hes Hakeem Olajuwon he hasnt met expectations” …….Hakeem did win 2 titles and completely destroyed an MVP winner in David Robinson (in the playoffs I might add) I feel like sports are more stat driven now that we forget the point of sports is winning championships. Jus me as a fan its great to break records or set new ones but you do all that but dont win championships….whats the point? 🤷🏾♂️ jus sayin.
I hate to be part of the hype but I don’t think it’s crazy to say his ceiling is higher than any player we’ve seen. 7’4” players are not supposed to be as skilled or as fluid as he is. Kristaps Porzingis was nicknamed the “Unicorn” for how rare it is to be so skilled at over 7 feet but I see Wemby being better. As for his frame, he needs to get on that Giannis diet. Giannis practically doubled in size from when he was drafted to now 😂
To answer your question about injuries and tall players, the data is pretty clear. No one can produce a list of people well above 7 foot who haven't been plagued by injuries. It is easy to produce a list of players well above 7 foot who had incredibly short careers in the NBA due to injury. It is a bit of a gamble for teams: IF these players don't get injured, they have insane tools, but if they are on the bench, they do nothing for your team. The spurs are betting on advancements in medical and physio to keep him on the court, all though to be fair, any team in the NBA would happily take this gamble too. I am not trying to say it is a bad gamble, but instead I am trying to say it is like the lottery, in that it is the kind of gambling with low odds of winning but high payouts.
It really is not. In NBA history their is 26 players 7 Foot 3 Inches or Taller in the NBA 70 years history that means about 1 every 3 years there is a guy this tall. 26 is not a good sample size to prove it.
@@Fawnswine Of course it is. It is plenty of sample size. The evidence is so overwhelming we don't need more data. If you want to say medical science has advanced and its different now so we don't know, fair enough, but the past is clear.
@@jweezy101491 It is not. 26 players is not a good sample size and not all those players played in the same era which in the 80s/90s NBA was alot more physical than today this is why its not enough of data to prove any point you trying to make rather just say all player 7 Foot or taller is injury risk have a good sample size to back it up but you cant use 26 players as a sample size to prove any point you trying to make. If it was 100 maybe you have a case but you have 0 case with 26 players.
Those EU comparisons were really really bad IMO. The Spanish league is a good bit ahead of the French league. Even worse is the Doncic comparison. Doncic put up better stats in the Euroleague, the single best league outside the NBA by far and was Euroleague MVP. Doncic was leagues better than Wembanyama on their draft days. Wemby is still the better prospect but Luka's Real Madrid career was just incredible.
I would be ok with your comment in the past, but Not this year man, you forgot Monaco in the semi final of euroleaugue... This year, The french league was incredibly dense!!! But I am agree, the last year of Doncic in europe had no compareason!
Btw 7 foot plus player always tend to have injury problem. I don't think there is a single 7 footer that hasn't struggled with injury. Yao Ming the best 7'2+ player ever had his carer shortened by injury(in the middle of his prime).
It seems NBA players are getting injured more than usual. Starting to play full length season at 10 years old has destroyed their lower bodies. Europeans typically start slower and later, which I believe helps. Now that centers can't just camp the defensive paint players are making way more difficult movements on the body. Now with all this space, they are allowed to repeat this movements endlessly. That is why players are getting injured more now.
@@DNReactsvideo was great as usual btw. They mentioned injuries as a big weakness, however he played in all 44 games this season and never had even a minor injury haha
He definitely does have a weakness and his weakness is his weakness. The reality is if this kid was 6'6 he would still be too skinny. He's going to need to put on 60 -70lb over the next 2-3 years realistically
Now, as an avid watcher of European basketball I must say Wemby is really overrated, but he will make a really solid basketball player, perhaps even an All-Star. That being said, big men his size have it hard staying healthy. I wish him all the best in that regard.
@@mda990 I just seen him play. Dude has improved tho. What I saw from him the last few years wasn't that promising. Wemby is like the Anthony Richardson of basketball.
TBH if he doesn't have an injury plagued career I'd be surprised. The track record for guys that skinny staying healthy in the NBA is abysmal. The track record for guys that tall is,outside of Mark Eaton, zero. Both that tall and that skinny I hope I'm wrong and there can always be a first but it hasn't happened yet. Look up Ralf Sampson he's the closest thing to Wemby we've seen and by his fourth year injuries had already turned a HOF player into a bench guy.
i think it's just about a guarantee that he will suffer from injuries throughout his career. I sure hope it doesn't happen, but it probably will. There is not a long list of skinny 7 footers that don't, i can't think of more than like 1 or 2 off the top of my head
“Complete package with no weakness.” Absolute hype. The guy has some noticeable weaknesses. He’s a fairly poor shooter from mid to deep range, no post game, and he has to settle for bad shots all the time because he can’t get to his spot. He’s gets bumped out of position by stronger guys in France. The claims that he’s 7-4 Kevin Durant are pure nonsense. He has some handle (for his size), and his shot is unblockable. If he works on that middy, that pick and pop would be unstoppable. His size will make players question jumpers because Wemby can make up ground with length. There’s a Dr on TH-cam that has said he’s gonna deal with shoulder pain at some point because of how long his arms are and how much leverage it creates on his shoulder. “Setback threes, step back threes” lmao. He shot like 27% from 3 for his career which is horrid. He also shot low 20% with his back tot he basket in the post. The video maker is spouting complete nonsense. “Step back threes!!!!”
Its all hype. Ill believe when i see it. Hes not real quick or fast he wont be able to put the ball on the floor in the nba. The guards will pick his pocket all the time. And hes not powerful enough to go against the big men. Also the comparison to other euros is a joke. He doesn't show the twenty guys that never made the nba that came with the stats and hype from Europe, only the two and a half euros that were successful and came with nba ready bodies.
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Regarding players with Wemby's height (and frame), the closest comp is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who avoided major injuries for most of his career and played 21 seasons.
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The injury concern is legitimate because people of that height have a really hard time recovering from injuries to their legs or feet due to their sheer size, that being said there are durable big men out there like jokic who plays damn near every game
Jokic is a tank though. Wemby weighs 125 after a thanksgiving feast
@@ZachWilsonsMomsFriend oh I know I was just giving a counterexample because they asked how sure of a thing it was in the video. I also think jokic’s lack of explosive jumping and whatnot prevents that wear and tear that so many other big men suffer from
@@ceeb830 very good point! Hard to land on your leg weird when you can’t jump 4 inches off the ground🤣🤣
Jokic is "only" 6'11 so the increased risk of injury doesn't actually affect him. It's perfectly reasonable to expect Jokic to continue to be very very durable.
@@eva11883 the difference in height is probably balanced out by the fact jokic is also 280lbs, that adds an injury risk as well. As I said before I think the way jokic plays is just very consistent and he doesn’t put himself in much danger
Its almost a statistical guarantee that a player of his height will have lower body injury issues. Although I hope he is able to overcome this... I would love to see this kid have a full career, because it would be special.
That’s a shame!
The thing that's weird with him though compared to other bigs his size in the past, none besides Ralph Sampson were as mobile and as agile as him. With Modern Medicine it's honeslty gonna be exciting to watch how he deals with possible injuries. His frame is a really good base to build on, he's got a Giannis like frame (excluding height and wingpsan) when you compare skinny Giannis to him, the frames do look similar. It helps show that he could actually put on more weight than say a Chet Holmgren who has a really bad frame compared to Wemby's and it doesnt look like Chet will be able to put on as much as Wemby's frame can.
@@dylandavis9833 "mobile and as agile as him" that's the scary thing though. There has never been a player his height that was tasked to do even a fraction of what Wemby is capable of. His overall load on the court will be way higher which = greatly increased risk of injury, even compared to the past guys his size, who were mainly just lumbering shot blockers and rebounders in the paint. All that agility and mobility will come at a cost.
I also think the Giannis comparison is pointless. Giannis is 6'10.5" compared to Wemby's 7'4". Massive difference. There has never been a player over 7'1" / 7'2" who became a superstar in terms of talent and skill. And even if we just look at all players that height, there has never been a single one whose career wasn't diminished by injuries.
I make the Giannis comparison to compare frames. Showing that Wemby has a frame that could build a substantial amount of muscle. If you compare his frame to Chet's it is drastically different and you can easily tell who could put more weight on. Plus he's going to the Spurs, the team that literally created load management, so that we'll help him a lot cause they will know how to handle him and his workload/@@Washanuga
@@dylandavis9833 workload will not matter that much tbh. with stick arms and legs like he has, he will suffer way more from injuries while banging around with others below the basket, and especially when landing on feet etc. his injuries will most likely result from shock, rather than wear and tear.
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I think he'll be really good I just hope injures don't derail his career like it has other big men
ala chet/zion
I hope that’s not the case too 🙏🏼
@@taylornelson2416 Chet's career has not been derailed by injuries lmfao he's 21
I think he’s gonna be fine tbh. After doing similar fascia type work, my lower legs have become indestructible. He’s obviously 7’5, but we’ve seen legends do it like Kareem, with less medical knowledge.
@@KSSportsReports yea his career hasn't started so it can't be derailed, and we don't have enough info to know if it'll affect his career heavily. it's too early to say one way or the other
1 year later this video aged like milk. Victor Wembanyama had a way better rookie year than LeBron. He lead the league in blocks and became the first rookie in Nba history to post 26ppg 13rebs 5assists and 4.5blks per 36 minutes.
The injuries are a genuine concern, simply because he is sooo damn tall and the record of injuries for NBA players over 7ft 3 (granted it's a small list) is shocking. Like 75% have major career ending injuries. However, his mobility and how in proportion his body is, is a great sign. I wouldn't want him to put on too much weight, just slowly does it and he'll be good. What's almost most impressive about Wemby is how professional, grounded, and humble he is already! He seems to have a good team around him, that combinded with the joining the Spurs who are a fantastic organisation who will look after him and allow him to flourish gives me hope that he'll have a all-time legendary career
His Game and Body frame reminds me of Kevin Garrett As a Rookie…he’s a taller Garnett…I didn’t watch any of his games in France…/ but I will watch the Spurs SUMMER LEAGUE games to look at him….One thing is he went to the PERFECT Place for him in San Antonio….😂….it’s stuff like that that makes people 😡 😂😂😂😂
Looking forward to see this guy’s journey in the NBA. Hope he stays healthy!
Thought you guys would’ve reacted to the highlights from his first couple games in the nba, he’s like 3 games deep right now
Victor has openly said he doesn't want to bulk up, just add strength - He also said he wants to play the 4 (Power Forward) and not 5 (Center) - Wishing him the best, but I think his going to be cooked by injuries...
He also choked in the Summer League.. Which does highlight that time to learn amongst the NBA talent is going to need to be taken into account.
I feel like him playing the 3 is best tbh
The injury concerns come from this basic principle: tall, lean players have frames not built to maintain the higher stresses caused by weight and the forces caused my running, jumping, and changing direction quickly. As a player gets taller and heavier, they become more and more likely to face major injuries to the feet and knees as a direct result of either putting on the weight to stop strong bigs or trying to out-move smaller players.
React to ELF , it’s the European League of Football. They have teams throughout Europe but mostly in Germany
I can’t speak to the science of it, but it has certainly seemed to me over the years that guys well over 7’ almost always have foot problems that catch up with them. I hope that Wemby, growing up in this new generation of sports science, has a leg up on big men of the past with all we know now. He’s a one-of-a-kind talent
Another one to check out, kind of on the Spurs topic, The Beautiful Game video of the 2014 champion spurs. It’s excellent
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Sam bowie the guy taken infront of Michael jordan in the draft constantly had leg issues
It’s very rare for any player, regardless of height, to go their entire career without a major injury
Injury concerns are definitely valid. Pretty much every big man especially around his height deals with lower body injuries, primarily their feet. Joel Embiid missed his first two seasons after being drafted dealing with foot issues and still misses significant time due to injury every year
The World Cup of basketball is happening end of August so check that out. Wemby is not playing for France however. Good for us Canadian fans as we have them in our group.
The FIBA World Cup obviously isn’t as big as FIFA but basketball is trending upward globally and the NBA is featuring much more worldwide talent, and the euro leagues are getting better. All in all it adds up to a lot of hype this year that perhaps wasn’t always present in years past.
Wemby has said he doesn't see the concern about his weight itself & plans on building up muscle more than just bulking & getting heavier
Nearly every player in the NBA that’s around Wemby’s size has had either a season ending injury or a career ending injury. Yao Ming had to retire due to a back injury, Porzingis tore his ACL and hasn’t been the same since, 7’4” Ralph Sampson had to retire due to knee and back issues. The list goes on and on.
That is natures way of balancing things out. Otherwise being that tall would be kind of a cheat code.
Actuality I think John Hollinger ran an analysis like 10 years ago and he did find a positive correlation to likelihood of injury and height. I think the increased risk started at 7'1 or 7'2, it didn't actually apply to 7'0 even. But yes, the more you go above 7'1 or so the more likely you are to have significant injury issues.
What is he 19? You know how many platos I had at 6'1"? Probably 3...
And he's 7'4"... He'll be great.
I definitely don't wish it on him, but like many others, I see injury coming with the quickness
Height of his magnitude inevitably comes with injury concerns. Beyond 7'1", it is very rare for players to have lengthy or healthy careers.
He's a 3 in a 5 body... he'll get stun locked if he posts up against the big centers.... I think he needs to keep moving and crash the boards to get 20 points consistently....by moving I mean he needs to stay in that 15 foot range, he'll have height advantage vs. A typical 6'7" help side defender...my guess is that he needs to play a 4, hit the 10-15 footers and then crash the boards...now on defense, he's a great shutdown option to defend the game tieing or winning 3 point attempts because of his length...it would definitely try to put him on the best 3 pointer guy under 20 seconds left in the game...he has mobility
injuries are a concern, but people are optimistic about Victor for a few reasons: 1) he has unusual coordination and fluidity at that size. the guys at his size or higher who had bad injuries were stiff and couldn't move their bodies athletically. 2) he has a perimeter game, with guard-like ball handling and potential shooting, so he doesn't need to post up all the time and bang with big guys on offense. 3) sports medicine has improved hugely, and Wemby has always worked with people to help him develop and gain weight in the most efficient and safest way possible
to answer your question about the tall players and injuries, the little group of players listed is probably over 50% of the league's players that's been over 7'3. the injury rate in terms of % really does jump WAY up when talking about insanely tall players
btw im someone who thinks Wemby can avoid major injuries. he's gonna get hurt, everyone does. but I don't think he'll be drowning in injuries like everyone thinks. but stuff like length of limbs definitely increases chance for injury to happen one way or another
NBA players body types are unique among athletes. In what other sport is a 7ft 4in person perfect for?? It's hard to imaging living in that body 24/7 when the world is made for much smaller people. My brother in law is 6'9 and you should see him getting in and out of his car with his arthritic knees and ankles. He played college basketball at a small Oregon college back in the late 70's and that was the only time his height was truly useful for him. According to him, it is pretty miserable being excessively tall.
NBA players seem to sit out for ANY injury at all. In some sports you can play through some injuries, but players in the NBA miss a lot of games due to minor injuries. The nature of the game with it constant running, jumping, cuts and change of directions really tax these big lanky bodies and joints. They really suffer as they age too.
My prediction for Victor is that he will also be quite prone to injury. I also think that all of the expectation placed on this young man will result in so much criticism and added pressure that he may wish he hadn't garnered so much attention. I hope I am wrong. He has be handled by the best sports science professionals available who have developed personalized exercises and workouts for Victor and his unique size challenges. Lets hope that his body responds by developing into a solid NBA big man physique that can handle the rigors of a 82 regular season game schedule. *If given the choice, I'd prefer to be a Othani or Trout and make my $600 million dollars playing baseball for 20 years. Then ride off into the sunset and enjoy the rest of my life as a normal size human being.
There has been only like 3 players 7'4" or taller that have made it in the NBA without early retirement from injuries.
5:19 you can’t every player his size ends up having to end there career early or has major injury issues
Being taller is harder on your frame and joints, so yes, you can kind of predict that, barring some miracle or if he just doesn't get much playing time, he will almost certainly have some wear and tear injruies during his career. The team's docs and PTs will try to manage and prevent it, but it's almost inevetiable at his size. That's why the guy brought up other guys at or near his size; the injuries are expected and certainly were considered in his draft stock.
Do 2016 nba playoffs or something about Antonio browns rise and fall
Thanks for the suggestion 🙏🏼
Really tall dudes have issues with their knees. He has the same frame like 7'4" Ralph Sampson who also came to the NBA with a lot of hype. Tall dudes with really small knees have issues. But a lot physical stuff have been removed from the NBA so he won't get a beating like past players. The Spurs have the best coach in the NBA, he will be a huge success.
I think he will be a great player, just needs to avoid those injuries!
He also likes to set high screens around the three point line, and often is late to them, sticking out his leg to still kinda catch someone with it and flop. But that also makes him very susceptible to knee injuries. There was already a situation in his first or second game with the Spurs where you could see that this will most likely become an issue for him.
The only thing to WATCH FOR 👀
On WIMBY … is the EXPECTATIONS …
If he has a SHAQ rookie impact , with a YAO MING defensive presence , and a DURANT outside offensive game … he very well may be … one of the goats 🐐
If he has all those qualities then it’s a wrap for everyone else!
His body looks like he'll fill out like Kevin Durant or Kevin Garnett. You can stay slim with height.
Anytime an addition like this comes to the NBA, it's great fun. Predicting injury goes for all athletes at any level, we have no idea yet.
The reason injuries is a concern is because Draft Picks (especially High Draft Picks) are a coveted asset and it will set your franchise back if you waste your Draft Pick on someone who can't stay healthy (not to mention in the NBA it's even more highly coveted because you only get 2 picks a draft)....Look no further what the effects of Portland picking Greg Oden #1 Overall in 2007- Portland has not recovered since that unfortunate Draft.
I'd be willing to bet big money he won't reach the greatest heights of his potential due to injuries. If he does, it'll be the most unprecedented event in NBA history by far. There has never been a player over 7'1" / 7'2" who was a superstar/top 5 player in the league.
The thing is, Wemby is going to be asked to do a hell of a lot for one player. In this modern NBA, he'll handle the ball, make plays, shoot from all distances, guard the paint and even the perimeter on occasion. In the past, guys his height were basically not tasked to do anything other than be lumbering shot blockers and rebounders in the paint. His skill set is far beyond that. He's like a C, a wing, and a big SG rolled up into one person. That just means the risk of injury is increased tremendously.
I hope I'm wrong, because it would be fun as hell and incredible if he can stay healthy and reach those heights.
re. the vid description, Wenbanyama is not baseball's next prodigy. Basketball's next prodigy, maybe.
I am sick but still here
I can't name a player taller than Shaq (7'1") and Wilt Chamberlain (also 7'1") who hasn't had injury trouble. And those were much larger players. On the other hand, Manute Bol was 7'7" and -- before coming to the US -- weighed 180 lbs. Six months later, he was 220 lbs. Granted in his case it was more just a lack of available food in his native South Sudan, but even so, I expect Wembanyama will put on some weight if you get him traditional, greasy, American junk food.
Edit: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was 7'2", and he's pretty much the model of NBA longevity. Still, it's pretty rare that anyone *much* over 7 feet has long-term success.
Most players over 7'2 have injuries that shorten their careers. Almost all of them are not fluid in the way they move and lack agility. That's what makes Wemby different and a curious case in terms of staying healthy. The closest thing we have ever seen to Wemby's mobility and agility is Ralph Sampson who's career was shortened due to injury. It's honestly pretty exciting to see how he handles injuries because Modern Medicine has become so developed over time so we can see how much that can lengthen Wemby's career. He's gonna get hurt, it's sports, everyone gets hurt at some point, but it's about how he deals with the injuries. I personally think he will be the first nba player at his size to have a decently long career that is consitently effective.
He's probably the most flexible tall guy ever seen in the NBA ! Just have a look on of one of his fitness training available on YT, it's Amazing how he's flexible ! And this flexibilty protect him of many injuries that big men have. Regarding he played in France, Come on ! He played against 30' years old men every weekend since his 16 ! Also play European matchs, and international matchs with France. A pro experience in a european championship is a huge advantage when you're a kid like Victor, better than play in US university. Just have a look on European players who are actually taking over the NBA.
Sorry for my "frenchglish'🇨🇵🇨🇵 And go Victor !!!
Jxmyhighroller made a video about Wemby and in it he showed stats about bigmen and injury problems. I think it would show you just how injury prone bigmen are.
People forget he’s 19 what 7’4 19 is gonna be huge I think he’s got a good base frame for someone this young look at giannis his rookie year vs now not saying he’ll be that big but he could get to a Hakeem like build
eating cilantro watching this
Enjoy! 😂
It’s a fact that players that of that size are more injury prone. Actually, the sample of players that are around Wemby’s size is very small because they’re just physical freaks, but I’m pretty sure they’ve ALL had to deal with injuries. I don’t think a human body is meant to be that size while still being capable of handling the full workload that an NBA athlete has.
The biggest concern with players that are skinny and that height is microfractures in the feet and legs
Sadly there isn't a load of players his height who didn't get injured. There's been VERY few nba players over 7'4. Been around 15 in 75 years. Almost every one has injury issues or drastically cut short careers
There honestly haven’t been a lot of players his height. The video wasn’t being hyperbolic that most of them suffered injuries.
The greatest guy that was insanely tall, Yao Ming, only played 8 seasons because of feet and knee problems.
Most centers in the league are considered tall do they are 6 foot 11 to 7 feet. Over 7 feet is actually rare even in a league of giants.
Definitely check out some Chet Holmgren highlights if you can squeeze them in before the NBA season. He had a lot of hype coming out of high school and didn’t disappoint in college. Got injured, but has showed some really good stuff in this years summer league.
7'6 Hall of Fame center Yao Ming could only manage 7 full seasons of play due to injury.
7'0 all star Brad Daugherty could only manage 8 seasons of play.
7'4 Hall of Famer Ralph Sampson after his third season only managed to play 213 of a possible 492 games over the next 6 seasons before retiring.
7'0 #1 pick Greg Oden (2007) only managed to play 105 total games due to injury.
And even the healthiest centers that tall don't manage to play for a super long time. 7'4 Mark Eaton played 11 years and 7'4 Rik Smits pulled out 12 healthy years.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the one big anomaly. At 7'2, he managed to play for over 1500 games in 20 seasons, and over 200 playoff games as well. Unfortunately, he's the exception.
Generally speaking taller players have knee foot and back issues. unfortunately it is more the norm than not
As a Spurs fan for life, I hope for great things. He's a supremely talented and solid young man and has said nothing but the right things. But... I have watched Yao, Sampson, Smits, Kristaps, etc. and it has become obvious to me that the Lord did not design 7-foot 4-inch humans to pound up and down a hardwood floor 100 nights out of the year, plus practices. Their feet and knees just can't take it.
Victor's physio team knows this, too, and much of his fitness regime is dedicated to strengthening his feet, but can you really do that? Is the first time he lands on someone's foot going to be the start of a injury-filled career? I wish him a long and trophy-laden career, but it would be a fight against history, to be certain.
You have to react to Larry Bird aka Larry Legend! In my attempt to use your vernacular, probably the cheekiest basketball player ever.
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@@DNReacts Can't wait to see your initial reaction!
….he said “if hes Hakeem Olajuwon he hasnt met expectations” …….Hakeem did win 2 titles and completely destroyed an MVP winner in David Robinson (in the playoffs I might add) I feel like sports are more stat driven now that we forget the point of sports is winning championships. Jus me as a fan its great to break records or set new ones but you do all that but dont win championships….whats the point? 🤷🏾♂️ jus sayin.
I hate to be part of the hype but I don’t think it’s crazy to say his ceiling is higher than any player we’ve seen. 7’4” players are not supposed to be as skilled or as fluid as he is. Kristaps Porzingis was nicknamed the “Unicorn” for how rare it is to be so skilled at over 7 feet but I see Wemby being better.
As for his frame, he needs to get on that Giannis diet. Giannis practically doubled in size from when he was drafted to now 😂
Let’s hope he lives up to the hype, what a player he can be!
I think Wemby is great I don't know if he is going to be LeBron but definitely Hall of Fame career
Can you guys do the 2023 mvp Joel embiid please ?
To answer your question about injuries and tall players, the data is pretty clear. No one can produce a list of people well above 7 foot who haven't been plagued by injuries. It is easy to produce a list of players well above 7 foot who had incredibly short careers in the NBA due to injury. It is a bit of a gamble for teams: IF these players don't get injured, they have insane tools, but if they are on the bench, they do nothing for your team. The spurs are betting on advancements in medical and physio to keep him on the court, all though to be fair, any team in the NBA would happily take this gamble too. I am not trying to say it is a bad gamble, but instead I am trying to say it is like the lottery, in that it is the kind of gambling with low odds of winning but high payouts.
It really is not. In NBA history their is 26 players 7 Foot 3 Inches or Taller in the NBA 70 years history that means about 1 every 3 years there is a guy this tall. 26 is not a good sample size to prove it.
@@Fawnswine Of course it is. It is plenty of sample size. The evidence is so overwhelming we don't need more data. If you want to say medical science has advanced and its different now so we don't know, fair enough, but the past is clear.
@@jweezy101491 It is not. 26 players is not a good sample size and not all those players played in the same era which in the 80s/90s NBA was alot more physical than today this is why its not enough of data to prove any point you trying to make rather just say all player 7 Foot or taller is injury risk have a good sample size to back it up but you cant use 26 players as a sample size to prove any point you trying to make. If it was 100 maybe you have a case but you have 0 case with 26 players.
Jerome “The Bus” Bettis??
he's a bit spindly, gonna have to pack on 30-40lbs to stand up against the other players who will bully him.
Yeah I agree completely!
They said the same thing about Kd too
Those EU comparisons were really really bad IMO. The Spanish league is a good bit ahead of the French league. Even worse is the Doncic comparison. Doncic put up better stats in the Euroleague, the single best league outside the NBA by far and was Euroleague MVP. Doncic was leagues better than Wembanyama on their draft days. Wemby is still the better prospect but Luka's Real Madrid career was just incredible.
I would be ok with your comment in the past, but Not this year man, you forgot Monaco in the semi final of euroleaugue... This year, The french league was incredibly dense!!! But I am agree, the last year of Doncic in europe had no compareason!
Btw 7 foot plus player always tend to have injury problem. I don't think there is a single 7 footer that hasn't struggled with injury. Yao Ming the best 7'2+ player ever had his carer shortened by injury(in the middle of his prime).
Yeah it touched on that in the video, that’s a shame! Hopefully they done hinder him too much!
@@DNReacts yeah its unfortunate, but no doubt wemby is gonna be special
yao ming was also like 300 lbs soo you know not really the same tbh
@@CheezusCrustII ok? if anything it proves that no matter the weight. 7 footers are injury ridden.
It seems NBA players are getting injured more than usual. Starting to play full length season at 10 years old has destroyed their lower bodies. Europeans typically start slower and later, which I believe helps. Now that centers can't just camp the defensive paint players are making way more difficult movements on the body. Now with all this space, they are allowed to repeat this movements endlessly. That is why players are getting injured more now.
Taller players get injured at a significantly higher rate
Can you do Kevin Durant
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@@DNReactsvideo was great as usual btw. They mentioned injuries as a big weakness, however he played in all 44 games this season and never had even a minor injury haha
Hopefully that carries on! Appreciate the comment 😀
He definitely does have a weakness and his weakness is his weakness. The reality is if this kid was 6'6 he would still be too skinny. He's going to need to put on 60 -70lb over the next 2-3 years realistically
Now, as an avid watcher of European basketball I must say Wemby is really overrated, but he will make a really solid basketball player, perhaps even an All-Star. That being said, big men his size have it hard staying healthy. I wish him all the best in that regard.
perhaps even all-star?? lol u are hater
@@mda990 I just seen him play. Dude has improved tho. What I saw from him the last few years wasn't that promising. Wemby is like the Anthony Richardson of basketball.
TBH if he doesn't have an injury plagued career I'd be surprised. The track record for guys that skinny staying healthy in the NBA is abysmal. The track record for guys that tall is,outside of Mark Eaton, zero. Both that tall and that skinny I hope I'm wrong and there can always be a first but it hasn't happened yet. Look up Ralf Sampson he's the closest thing to Wemby we've seen and by his fourth year injuries had already turned a HOF player into a bench guy.
i think it's just about a guarantee that he will suffer from injuries throughout his career. I sure hope it doesn't happen, but it probably will. There is not a long list of skinny 7 footers that don't, i can't think of more than like 1 or 2 off the top of my head
“Complete package with no weakness.” Absolute hype. The guy has some noticeable weaknesses. He’s a fairly poor shooter from mid to deep range, no post game, and he has to settle for bad shots all the time because he can’t get to his spot. He’s gets bumped out of position by stronger guys in France. The claims that he’s 7-4 Kevin Durant are pure nonsense. He has some handle (for his size), and his shot is unblockable. If he works on that middy, that pick and pop would be unstoppable. His size will make players question jumpers because Wemby can make up ground with length. There’s a Dr on TH-cam that has said he’s gonna deal with shoulder pain at some point because of how long his arms are and how much leverage it creates on his shoulder.
“Setback threes, step back threes” lmao. He shot like 27% from 3 for his career which is horrid. He also shot low 20% with his back tot he basket in the post. The video maker is spouting complete nonsense. “Step back threes!!!!”
Wemby isn't going to play at the 5
he looks weird in real time just watching a game. but i don’t know how you stop someone who can shoot from a foot over your head
Yeah I don’t know how players cope with him defensively!
Injuries to big men is not a science, but as someone who has watched the NBA for twenty years, it appears that big men are injury prone.
Thanks for clarifying 🙏🏼
Its all hype. Ill believe when i see it. Hes not real quick or fast he wont be able to put the ball on the floor in the nba. The guards will pick his pocket all the time. And hes not powerful enough to go against the big men. Also the comparison to other euros is a joke. He doesn't show the twenty guys that never made the nba that came with the stats and hype from Europe, only the two and a half euros that were successful and came with nba ready bodies.
He will be average at best--- unless he develops a Kareem Abdul Jabbar "sky hook" shot.
He'll be out of the league within 5 years, sadly.
Dude is not going to be a star. He will be a decent big man, but more than likely he will be injured alot due to his fragile body.
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Take into consideration… the French leauge is one of the weakest leauges in all of basketball