How to Secure a MAX Heist with Underground - In Too Deep with Frodan

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  • TFT Set 8.5 In-depth Guide - Underground Max Heist Cashout
    Hitting an Underground max cashout is something many try but fail. In this TFT guide, Frodan goes in-depth on how he secured his max heist in a top-ranked lobby, and how Underground is different from previous economy traits (Fortune, Mercenary).
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  • @LatDropKing810
    @LatDropKing810 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    This is extremely high quality content, looking forward to new videos in this series.

  • @teemychow6483
    @teemychow6483 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The commentary of your replay is very helpful. I don't usually enjoy watching higher elo people play because they are just fast with a different level of IQ. But the way you explained every thought process, really helped me learn and pretty inspiring. Thanks for the content. First time viewer of your channel, definitely subscribing!

    • @ryanmarchand1756
      @ryanmarchand1756 ปีที่แล้ว

      on god he was, at one point, in a pretty huge conundrum, but he turned it around!

  • @LucasHeim
    @LucasHeim ปีที่แล้ว +28

    wow, that was amazing. Love this format explaining like every single decision you make, I think it helps a lot to understand all the possible variables involved. Thanks for that!

  • @brentonhood
    @brentonhood ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah the production value on these videos is insane, thank you!

  • @Raithis24
    @Raithis24 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING content! I loved that you dubbed over your gameplay rather than just putting raw footage out (and I like how you were criticizing yourself for some of your decisions). It was extremely informative. Great stuff!

  • @amoic9858
    @amoic9858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude ur explanations are insane, i just love the way you spread information non stop which makes the video so intresting without a break. Ur the goat. +1 follower

  • @AppleMangoBanano
    @AppleMangoBanano ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very satisfing. Perfect cash out timing, good items, well thought out & prepared, good editing, enjoyed this vid a lot

  • @buda4510
    @buda4510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is probably the best channel to learn tft, this is amazing.
    The community really thanks you Mr. Frodan

  • @finn1395
    @finn1395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so much more interesting than the usual tft content which are essential vod upload.

  • @mikesez1
    @mikesez1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please keep making this content. It’s helping a ton with what to think through at each stage

  • @MoonDoy2
    @MoonDoy2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is GOAT TFT commentary. No other TFT TH-cam vids come close to this.

  • @ktownpunkjr.1946
    @ktownpunkjr.1946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frodan plays tft now!? Its been so long since I kept up with HS, glad to see he's here in my new main game lol!

  • @Silvmeister
    @Silvmeister ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Frodan. Just wanted to let you know that this is great content. I'm used to watch several TFT videos and streams and all the explanations and reasoning you provided was really enjoyable. Thank you so much and please keep on going

  • @mariaceron8738
    @mariaceron8738 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the best videos I’ve had the pleasure of watching. This is such high quality and informative. Thanks for the insights and thoughtfulness that went into this video. 🎉❤

  • @movinMat
    @movinMat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best tft TH-cam. Please keep it going

  • @chrisdecker9732
    @chrisdecker9732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the idea of high elo educational content. I’ve learned infinite from your streaming and hopefully now TH-cam as well. Good shit!

  • @eurostep4
    @eurostep4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do more of these. This is literally a perfect kind of tft video i wanna see more of.

  • @dk0932
    @dk0932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just commenting to support, I really like the way you are explaining and criticizing your actions!

  • @rosssmith2745
    @rosssmith2745 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro this vid is holy I always say I wonder what these players are thinking as it would help with my games, this vid is a step further and I love it man

  • @sevenseven6123
    @sevenseven6123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, I always wondered: Isn't making 10 at stage 1 fake? You do not get income for it. Look at 1:46. He has 10 gold, transition of stage 1-2 to 1-3 gives you 3 gold. with the extra interest, you should go from 10 to 14, right? But you can see Frodan gets 13 gold. Am I missing something?

  • @scrummpybear
    @scrummpybear ปีที่แล้ว

    damn man i saw you at the tft worlds and just watched this as the first video, thank you for explaining it so well, ive always had little questions like if i put items on mech and they get "absorbed" do the itesm carry over as well, well now i know they dont! I really enjoyed that you criticised yourself vs competitive play. So helpful thank you!

  • @duhhjosh23
    @duhhjosh23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the comment on cashing out during the monster fights or augment stage, I've lost many games playing underground and I cashed out and I didn't have time to properly set up because there was so many actions to do 😂 great video

  • @adocules1675
    @adocules1675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best educational tft content out there

  • @rossburhans8761
    @rossburhans8761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very insightful video and a great watch! Would love to see more content like this!!

  • @andynam6745
    @andynam6745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very clear break down! awesome content bro!

  • @fugosfork7907
    @fugosfork7907 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone trying to learn tft, amazing video

  • @arasus3234
    @arasus3234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video! It was really nice to hear your thought process since I'm still uncomfortable with underground :)

  • @ahazu1445
    @ahazu1445 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are really high quality the explanations are top notch keep going and dont stop making content bro you are awesome

  • @alexanderherasme5664
    @alexanderherasme5664 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned a lot. Thank you my TFT goat

  • @TH-dg2mm
    @TH-dg2mm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The stand united was working overtime in this game

  • @Htsangers
    @Htsangers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, you are SO good at casting yourself.

  • @NovaNinjaHD
    @NovaNinjaHD ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'd love to see more tft game reviews. going through your own games and talking us through you're thought process. maybe review viewer submitted games toooo?? 👀

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Neat idea! Happy to see if we can have some submissions down the road. Still trying to make sure the first few are of high quality games to get the ball rolling, but looking forward to getting to do stuff like that.

    • @theradicalaxe553
      @theradicalaxe553 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrodanTV Make more videos bro

  • @imoscared
    @imoscared ปีที่แล้ว

    Your nonstop commentary was amazing

  • @joshuafredlund1586
    @joshuafredlund1586 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video, your hard work paid off and I would love to see more of this content :D

  • @ferenc1512
    @ferenc1512 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content! Im really struggleing in low diamond since 8.5 (I was d1 80lp in set 8) and this is an amazing video!

  • @bigdyl23
    @bigdyl23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the in-depth analysis 👌

  • @miraclegrow
    @miraclegrow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    subbed, youre a tft tutor

  • @Rilea_
    @Rilea_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video Frodan! Very informative!

  • @allenquimora2017
    @allenquimora2017 ปีที่แล้ว

    i literally sub in the first 10 seconds of this video

  • @matbearpig
    @matbearpig ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so uncomfortable with underground - this was a big help!

  • @lunaloveee8168
    @lunaloveee8168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video!!!!

  • @MattPizza
    @MattPizza ปีที่แล้ว

    bless you sir for posting actual content on this cursed day 😂

  • @dunamis3535
    @dunamis3535 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an underground enjoyer, this was very insightful, thank you

  • @athenenocttua2169
    @athenenocttua2169 ปีที่แล้ว

    After a while, when I have already played most comps, underground became one of the only fun strategy cuz u never know what you get, and those radiants are so cool. Also ended up making a morde 3 cuz of gold and birthday suprise:))

  • @andychen2737
    @andychen2737 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is soooooo good. Please more

  • @AllMightyPyRo
    @AllMightyPyRo ปีที่แล้ว

    Great production value and good content.

  • @kimchiconasado
    @kimchiconasado ปีที่แล้ว

    super insightful stuff, insta subscribed

  • @dylanreeder
    @dylanreeder ปีที่แล้ว

    the stand united value was insane

  • @dabbagam4503
    @dabbagam4503 ปีที่แล้ว

    never seen this game before but you made it sound really interresting

  • @Aymenn-01
    @Aymenn-01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful video i subscribed keep up

  • @darcss6583
    @darcss6583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video enjoyed it, keep it up frodan

  • @TehBananaBread
    @TehBananaBread ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, is this frodan, the hearthstone frodan? How does he look younger than in his HS days.

  • @ratpoizon
    @ratpoizon ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed for good content! thank you for posting

  • @ivannnk
    @ivannnk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video sir. here is my subscribe.
    U remind me of midbeast for TFT.

  • @demexmz4510
    @demexmz4510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey frodan, could you make a vid that explaining what to do when you get extremely bad luck with roll odds? I'm always the first to hit 50 econ, but the last to 2 star my comp even though I have the most gold to roll with. And yes, I scout in order to build a comp with the highest available champion pool.

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm looking for a game that can showcase this. It'll definitely happen sometime!

  • @jakecarpenter11
    @jakecarpenter11 ปีที่แล้ว

    as annoying as it is not getting the losses at the start ive found that more times than not i get more wins and higher cashouts with a win streak underground

  • @-Matchuchu-
    @-Matchuchu- ปีที่แล้ว

    22:55 cash out

  • @alexdroptin7940
    @alexdroptin7940 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a really cool video.

  • @martinmajtan8119
    @martinmajtan8119 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you get interest from first stage

  • @deeky1239
    @deeky1239 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's nice to see a high elo game doing ridiculous stuff instead of these uncompetitive lobbies just stomping through without having to think about anything.

  • @no1frommichigan88
    @no1frommichigan88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn that is epic.

  • @MomoCannonttv
    @MomoCannonttv ปีที่แล้ว

    more of this!

  • @nescap
    @nescap ปีที่แล้ว

    BIS Sivir 23:13

  • @alanhe4476
    @alanhe4476 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it ever worth eschewing lw earlygame since youre on vi for a while?

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sometimes it's okay yes, but remember that LW sunders for a higher % and you may want to sub out that Vi later.

  • @kimchijam
    @kimchijam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do not use lucian as an AD item holder, he has one of the lowest base ad of 20 and since ad items are now percentage increase rather than flat increase, lucian basically gains like 10 ad from a deathblade

    • @teemychow6483
      @teemychow6483 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who are the best 1* ad holders? I ask cause I am not familiar with ad comps.

    • @kimchijam
      @kimchijam ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teemychow6483 for 1 costs, ashe and kayle are good ad options, nasus can work too.

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      I value tempo with Infiniteam so sometimes I'm willing to play AD items on him until I find someone else better to hold like Sivir.
      But in hindsight, I see what you're referring to. The way I framed it made it sound like I build AD items on Lucian. I generally don't do that and was making my point poorly. Thanks for the note!

  • @joshuazielinski1443
    @joshuazielinski1443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video ok

  • @glo911902
    @glo911902 ปีที่แล้ว

    TOP 1 VIDEO

  • @Lesterberne
    @Lesterberne ปีที่แล้ว

    We need to go deeper

  • @gabycarbonella
    @gabycarbonella ปีที่แล้ว

    nice video

  • @BrainDamage4436
    @BrainDamage4436 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk why people full lose with underground its not merc. Merc was all about losing with close losses while underground is more about staying on tempo, its okay to win you want close losses save hp play for late game make a plan and stay on tempo. Its really just play normal with a slightly weaker board and get free stuff

  • @kkarousios
    @kkarousios ปีที่แล้ว

    So highroll an Underground heart with 4 underground opener every game, NOTED.
    Good to see the thought process behind it though.

  • @nicholasleung5669
    @nicholasleung5669 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious if anyone else considered making 20 gold on 2-2? I usually autopilot sell most of my other units when playing underground but holding for mech makes sense

    • @sammiyearsley6634
      @sammiyearsley6634 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also found myself adding up the bench but the mech units were good holds

    • @tlyee6166
      @tlyee6166 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think hes correct to hold wu2 because it becomes increasingly harder to hit as the game goes on. if it was only wu pair, the decision becomes more nuanced. on a win i would forsure sell rights side- jax doesn't go into comp until cashout and you get 15 or so natural shops to hit an uncontested 3 cost unit on higher level odds. however, there's a good chance you get stuck in wukong jail

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much what others said! I think making 20g there is powerful, but I don't want to be caught in a situation where I need to find Wukong 2 and I'm too high level which lowers the odds. I think if it was, say, a Wukong pair I would be much more inclined to sell 1 to make gold.

    • @nicholasleung5669
      @nicholasleung5669 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@FrodanTV Do you think this decision would have been closer last set (8.0)? Last set we had more/better frontline outs such as Sej, Zac, and Cho which have been replaced with arguably worse counterparts -- Aatrox seems more item reliant than Zac, and Morgana/WW aren't frontliners. I initially thought preparing to play mech seemed a bit narrow but now that I look at the units, there aren't as many frontline options for Samira.

  • @midnitebeach
    @midnitebeach ปีที่แล้ว

    yikes his challenger, na ladder is a joke

  • @Lechron
    @Lechron ปีที่แล้ว

    whwhwhwhy all you weirdo streamers drag to buy its crazy. whats wrong with clicking to buy

  • @L0rdDoom
    @L0rdDoom ปีที่แล้ว

    just an other click bait