Is Doctor Who's 'Farting Alien' Episode A Secret Masterpiece?

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  • One of the most infamous episodes of Doctor Who's 57-year history is the one with big green farting aliens taking over the UK government. But is this episode actually better than people give it credit for?
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  • @kierendale8659
    @kierendale8659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    As a kid I was terrified by the slitheen. The idea of being hollowed out and an alien wearing my skin was the scariest idea as a 5 year old. Heck I didn't even remember the farts but remembered the giant claws breaking down wooden doors.

    • @RealBadGaming52
      @RealBadGaming52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      the SJA Episode The Lost Boy made them very sinister

    • @kierendale8659
      @kierendale8659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RealBadGaming52 and that's why we shouldn't trust sentient alien computers

    • @awaywiththefaeries9464
      @awaywiththefaeries9464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too. I was convinced that there was a slitheen hiding under my bed. Although my introduction to them came from SJA.

    • @Silverwind87
      @Silverwind87 ปีที่แล้ว

      Body Snatchers

    • @AarowSummerPotato
      @AarowSummerPotato ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same also watched SJA I'm an adult now yet I still can remember nightmares , like people who look like people but I know they are aliens in disguise, I remember that they would "hunt"

  • @Glac0
    @Glac0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    I didn't hate this episode but imo SJA made the Slitheen better

    • @anealingfeeling5356
      @anealingfeeling5356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      SJA expanded upon the Slitheen in a way the parent show wasn't prepared to do. While I think with every subsequent appearance they got worse and worse, SJA was probably the only suitable medium to continue to explore what I believe to be one of the revival's most horrific creations and for that I'm thankful, even if it was at the expense of what I thought made them effective villains.

  • @stolasish1184
    @stolasish1184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    “Harriet Jones, MP: Flydale North”
    Yes, we know who you are

  • @nymphrodellsalavin
    @nymphrodellsalavin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    Honestly, "Do you mind not farting when I'm trying to save the world?" is brilliant. Not only did it make me laught, it also illustrates just how irreverent the whole thing is to the Slitheen. It's the moment where we realize that no, it's not just a gassy fat minister of candy, it's an alien inside the body of the head of government who orchestrated the entire crisis and is just about to kill everyone who can stop him. I feel like this scene is the payoff for all the fart jokes earlier, and I loved it.

    • @summer6100
      @summer6100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the line definitely doesn't have 'trying' in it. i think it's, 'scuse me, do you mind not farting while im saving the world?'. but yeah. i agree.

    • @RealBadGaming52
      @RealBadGaming52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i thibk that line is brilliant, i think it semented that i was gonna love this show forver

    • @mrmrsgamer6938
      @mrmrsgamer6938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I honestly remember that line first when thinking of this episode

    • @Gfreak250
      @Gfreak250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, the line "Excuse me, do you mind not Farting while I'm saving the World?" is so memorable and just solidifies how good Christopher Eccleston was as the Doctor.

  • @mjudec
    @mjudec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    The farting grates a bit, but it was a useful tool to let the audience know who was an alien (I'm particularly thinking of the policeman). It's a quick cue to the audience that someone's not who they say they are..

    • @christopherbennett5858
      @christopherbennett5858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also adds a bit to the cold opener of Boom Town

    • @indymay5760
      @indymay5760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yea and I saw people say that it’s like supposed to be a satire joke about politicians talking out their asses

    • @user-jn1wm3tb8v
      @user-jn1wm3tb8v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also this would be a pretty dark idea and plot without the farting.

    • @gremlinwc8996
      @gremlinwc8996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It wouldve been cool if it was like a cough or something instead so rather than fart jokes it would seem like they're sick or something

    • @S-Fan2006
      @S-Fan2006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And made for a nice bit of satire (representing lying politicians).

  • @martinmaguire-music6692
    @martinmaguire-music6692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I always liked how the Slitheen seemed to not take Earth seriously at all, that's how I read the whole farting thing. "I'm... *shaking* my *booty* "

    • @RealBadGaming52
      @RealBadGaming52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      exactly they didnt give a shite , we where a backward low level species

    • @martinmaguire-music6692
      @martinmaguire-music6692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@RealBadGaming52 In SJA they referred to Earth as 'Planet Thick, where they haven't even figured out string theory.'

    • @Gamelover254
      @Gamelover254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The actor of one of the Slitheen put it perfectly in the commentary. They’re basically children. They see earth as this giant plaything, so the scene of them farting and laughing and making jokes fits perfectly with the character. Is it the most mature thing ever? No. But that was the point.

  • @epicmeeper
    @epicmeeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    It is not a secret masterpiece. It is just a masterpiece- no secret about it.

  • @blobfish5730
    @blobfish5730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    I think that people see the farting aliens and pass the story as bad and childish but if it had the Zygons or the Chameleons in, people would see it as a classic.

    • @blobfish5730
      @blobfish5730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@zephilagaming4331 The Chameleons are from the 1967 story the Faceless Ones

    • @hothemeep1219
      @hothemeep1219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blobfish5730 1967

    • @blobfish5730
      @blobfish5730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hothemeep1219 Yes sorry

    • @willh2690
      @willh2690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zephilagaming4331 Their, idiot.

    • @zephilagaming4331
      @zephilagaming4331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willh2690 stop the swairing plzzzzzzzs

  • @martingoldfreed2627
    @martingoldfreed2627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +461

    The only issue with the Slitheen is the farting? How is it so many people don't realize the farting is a metaphor for 'politicians talking out of their asses'? It's not solely supposed to be comedic, I'd argue it isn't childish, and adds a lot to the political satire.

    • @Jackgames-vg7cw
      @Jackgames-vg7cw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Innit but people don't care about that

    • @arunosborn3169
      @arunosborn3169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s definitely supposed to be funny as well though

    • @marcino457
      @marcino457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      But it’s primarily played for laughs and that’s what makes it so cringe inducing. If they wanted satire they could’ve just kept it in the background with a quick in-universe explanation of why they’re doing it. That way you still have politicians farting to serve the metaphor and it’s not so painful to watch. But there are many different scenes which focus around it for excruciating amounts of time and are blatant attempts at cheap humour. It honestly makes it hard to watch without second hand embarrassment . Besides, the fact that something is a metaphor doesn’t automatically make it good.

    • @martingoldfreed2627
      @martingoldfreed2627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@marcino457 I'd say it's occasionally taken too far for cheap comedy, though it's forgivable at worst while the episodes themselves are great.

    • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg
      @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not the only problem but it is a big part of why complaints about Chibnalls tenure are not taken seriously. Waah, this last Jodie episode was silly because... dude, farting aliens.

  • @SJ9001
    @SJ9001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    "Aliens of London" was the first ever episode of the show I saw. Not all of it, but my dad had family friends over to watch it and so I asked to join in. I remember seeing the set pieces like the Big Ben crash, the space pig, and above all the cliffhanger for the first time, which was the moment 10-year-old me wanted to keep watching. Of course I didn't follow the politics but the action, the threat and the comedy was more than enough at the time.
    It's nostalgia but I own a lot to this two-parter. It brought me on board for the ride, and just in time for the first new Daleks to boot. And though I fell away at the start of the most recent series, I'm still fully immersed in the franchise. So that's the tale of how my life what changed by a story about farting aliens.

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I have one question about Aliens In London: How would Captain Jack Harkness react to Tosh describing The Doctor and the events of the alien investigation scene? (yes, that was Tosh not just the same actress, she and Owen make reference to it as "Space pig" during Exit Wounds/Torchwood S2 finale where it's mentioned that Owen was meant to be there).
    Also I feel that the Slitheen fit better in the Sarah Jane Adventures and even their next episode at the end of this series is a guilty pleasure episode for me.

    • @hothemeep1219
      @hothemeep1219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She was the same actress

    • @Jedi_Spartan
      @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hothemeep1219 yeah, check the character entry on the DW wiki.

    • @ThePhantomLK
      @ThePhantomLK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@hothemeep1219 Not just the same actress, it is officially the same character. Watch "Torchwood" Season 2 Finale or look it up online

    • @hothemeep1219
      @hothemeep1219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ThePhantomLK but I know...toshiko was undercover

    • @cameronmonaghan6883
      @cameronmonaghan6883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I completely agree with the slitheen being a better SJA villain. Especially since they were more popular with younger viewers. Plus the comedic over the top disguises better in Revenge

  • @rassilontdavros3004
    @rassilontdavros3004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The moral if this episode is that if you can’t take occasional silliness... then you should not be watching _Doctor Who._

  • @NitroIndigo
    @NitroIndigo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I didn't see this as a kid, but I did see "Revenge of the Slitheen". The Sarah Jane Adventures is a good way to contrast a kids' show with a FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY show.

    • @carolinemcgovern4488
      @carolinemcgovern4488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I preferred the Slitheen in SJA because it is so creepy. In that series, even the toilet humour was creepy.

  • @nobodyshome4633
    @nobodyshome4633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    People hate the farting because other people hate the farting. I hate how people just look pass this Story. The Slitheen are absolutely terrifying hunters in this Story. Harriet Jones is an underrated Queen x and the Doctor and Rose are brilliant in this. Mickey is great in this and I love how the Doctor actually invited him to join. This is where Jackie’s character begins to develop as a character. I’ll always love this Story, it’s fun, creative and has amazing character moments x

    • @Gamelover254
      @Gamelover254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I hate whenever people watch this show EVERYONE says “episodes 4 and 5 suck, just get past them”. Like way to preset their expectations.

    • @gremlinwc8996
      @gremlinwc8996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Gamelover254 I was rewatching it recently, and I got to that point with that mindset, but then as I was watching it dawned on my how aside from the fart jokes it's actually a really well crafted interesting and original story

  • @jonathanskinner7647
    @jonathanskinner7647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    But in it the politicians that are evil fat farting lying aliens. How on earth did RTD sneak that past the BBC. I never saw these episodes as bad. They're a fun pair and of course have the introduction of Harriot Jones. A nice two parter that's both funny, campy, dark and political. All things that would only fit for series 1's feel

    • @matthewparker9276
      @matthewparker9276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It would have gotten past the BBC because the bad politicians are an external force that can be dealt with, rather than a problem with any current politicians.

    • @christopherbennett5858
      @christopherbennett5858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matthewparker9276 It's kind of like why the Oscars like movies like Crash where it puts social and political issues down to individuals rather than broad society-wide flaws

  • @garfieldorangbutonyoutube1126
    @garfieldorangbutonyoutube1126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Yeah i hated the farting jokes, but i still love the episode.

  • @ejcmoorhouse
    @ejcmoorhouse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This story is perfect, its a great invasion episode, its got policital commentary and its not afriad to take itself too seriously. It is perfect mix of drama and humour to create what I feel is one of the best doctor who stories and the highlight for me of the 9th Doctor's run. And the pacing of the episode and the use of the news broadcasts its brillant and make it feel like this is serious global event that we have never really seen before this and unfortunatly after Moffat and Chibnall never used the news to such great effect as Davis to really upscale the threat.

  • @HectorialInfection
    @HectorialInfection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Seriously though, how do people not get the fart jokes in these episodes?
    The point is that politicians are always **talking out of their ass**.
    GET IT?

    • @ShamrockParticle
      @ShamrockParticle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do understand it. No need to shout. And by then, the show was fully a live action "Family Guy" knockoff as well.

    • @themostbritishpersonalive868
      @themostbritishpersonalive868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ShamrockParticle never compare doctor who to family guy what are you AN AMERICAN

    • @becauseimapotato7599
      @becauseimapotato7599 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShamrockParticle Yeah, no, they aren't "shouting", they're just typing in caps

    • @whistlingstarlight2942
      @whistlingstarlight2942 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get it, still don't like it though. I personally think the Slitheen would be a bit more intimidating without the fart jokes

  • @lachesis1541
    @lachesis1541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "If you overlook the farting, they're actually quite unsettling"
    Im using this as my yearbook quote

  • @bmvthemoviefanatic7282
    @bmvthemoviefanatic7282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    100% agree mate. If this episode got rid of all the...farting XD It would be a perfectly good Doctor Who episode. The opening with Rose returning a year later was so well done, as you pointed out. Heck, all the family drama with Rose and Jackie's realisation of what's been going on was great, even the last scene where she says she is gonna be back in 10 seconds. As for the "farting aliens" themselves, they have a really solid design. The practicality is great and it puts a nice spin on how aliens are normally seen as green, bugged-eyes monsters. Overall, if u can get past the goofiness and points it a blast! However, then you watch the episode after this and you look back at this and think how much this pales in comparison XD

    • @gremlinwc8996
      @gremlinwc8996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It would've been cool if, instead of farting, it was like coughing or something. Humans would rationalize it as some sorta sickness, itd act as an indicator like the farting, and then it wouldn't have to be played for laughs. I also feel like the slitheen shouldn't have been restricted to overweight people. The fat jokes have aged worse than the fart jokes because it punches down towards a group of people, and it also doesn't make sense, because they have shrinking technology anyway

  • @RPGmodsFan
    @RPGmodsFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Due to all the Farting Jokes, these 2 episodes were definitely geared towards children.
    But, they still do have plenty of material for adults to enjoy. :-)

    • @ShamrockParticle
      @ShamrockParticle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      00s children.

    • @S-Fan2006
      @S-Fan2006 ปีที่แล้ว

      The farting gag does go over the heads of many (especially kids), but does sum up modern day politicians very well - They don’t know when to stop talking out of their a***s.”

  • @GwenSpanner
    @GwenSpanner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yet another of my favourite episodes is apparently one of the ones everybody hates.
    Also random thought: the doctor thinks people are stupid for thinking that a walking pig is an alien, yet the space police are walking rhinos

    • @themostbritishpersonalive868
      @themostbritishpersonalive868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah but the giant rhinos aren't rhino sized and also have a language and guns then the pig is just a pig a pig sized pig

  • @hernerwerzog9700
    @hernerwerzog9700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You are a bold one....
    No but for real, I really agree with you yet again and these videos are by far my favourite ones, it's just so refreshing to see that not every DW-Fan is so toxic

  • @teabags8844
    @teabags8844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah now, the slitheen cant help it. Also I love the beginning of the episode its great to see the downsides of running off with the doctor being shown so realistically. Great Video man really enjoying this series!

  • @chilteren7947
    @chilteren7947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was young me’s favourite Ecclestone episode, and I never thought it was that bad.

  • @DCSMedia
    @DCSMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly I like every Eccleston story. Personally End of the World is a little dull but by no means bad. This two parter is really fun though

    • @rileychan5380
      @rileychan5380 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm personally not the biggest fan Rose, don't get me wrong I can see how it is a good introductory episode and I would never reccomend to skip it. But evedytime I rewatch Doctor who I skip it.

  • @SuperFitzyBoi
    @SuperFitzyBoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I appreciate that you referred to DW as a family show, it always annoys me when people (even including fans) call it a kids show. One of the things I've always loved about DW is how it makes an effort to appeal to all ages (with varying degrees of success admittedly) and this story is a really good example of that IMO.

  • @william...1
    @william...1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was born in 2004 in British family that was brought up on Doctor Who but I had never seen the Ecclestone season I was pretty much just brought up on Donna Noble and I remember seeing the poster for the AOL/WW3 and being enchanted and then when I watched episode. incredible. I still love it today. it was a dream come true to see it

  • @carcharo7
    @carcharo7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The slitheen have always been one of my favourite villains. I love their design. They’re like twisted version of your classic bug eyed alien, but giant with massive claws. Their shutter like blinks are iconic as well. Their design is so recognisable and are one of the only nuwho aliens that people who watched it casually 18 years ago can remember (+weeping angels).
    Also I love the lore. There is so much back story to their planet and culture. The fact the slitheen are a criminal family which are hated by the rest of the Raxacoricofallapatorians is such a cool idea.
    And how can we actually avoid the fact that they skin people alive and then wear their skins! Like that’s messed up. I feel like they put the farts in to cover that!
    I will defend them to my death

  • @LED_Lightbulb
    @LED_Lightbulb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i remember "back in the day" when they were releasing the episodes on dvd with a magazine about the episodes (2 episodes on a dvd w/ magazine each week or something) and i ended up only getting 3, two of which had aliens of london and ww3 on. These are two of my most watched episodes and having just found these videos by you has reminded me of that and im loving listening to what you have to say about each episode, especially at the moment since im a big 9/10th and rose fan

  • @KingLamink
    @KingLamink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    masterpiece is generous, but it's a fun episode to watch

  • @Scampr_
    @Scampr_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoyed your analysis of this story, and couldn't agree more! I have a lot of nostalgia for this two-parter in particular, and I think it was probably the story that cemented my interest in Doctor Who - which was helped even more with Dalek the following week.
    I probably didn't understand too much of the deeper plot and character development of this story as a kid, but what I could was really intriguing to me, and made it clear that this wouldn't just be a very episodic series of self contained stories week by week with little connecting them.
    At the same time though, I think a big part of the appeal was the focus on an iconic "monster of the week" style antagonist, which the first three stories were lacking in a little.
    The Autons were great, but they aren't notably alien or monstrous to me I don't think? whereas the aliens in ep2 were all friendly, and the Gelth are ultimately just ghosts.
    The introduction of the Slitheen just really grabbed my attention in that moment, and the cliffhanger had me really excited.
    In hindsight, it's not that great of a cliffhanger, because of the next time trailer and convenient solution at the start of the next episode, but it's pretty decent - the wait to reveal of the Slitheen up until shortly before was some great build up, and the tension set with the cliffhanger hints at the recurring tension of the following episode.
    I have always been confused why people downplay this story so much, and always write it off as "the farting aliens one"? I just find it a bit unfair to all the great aspects of this story, especially when the fart jokes aren't even that frequent? I can think of maybe four or five scenes? none of which last long and are part of a hour and a half long story overall? Like you said repeatedly, there's a lot this story has going for it if you can look past these moments - but even still, I don't see much problem in the show indulging in this type of humour occasionally? Doctor Who has always been silly, whimsical and camp at times, and it's part of it's charm.
    I find it a bit of a shame that the Raxacoricofallapatorians were kind of delegated to the SJA for being received as too childish? SJA uses them wonderfully, and they are an antagonist that can certainly be geared incredibly well to a younger audience.
    At the same time though, they have the capability to work just as well under a more serious context - Boom Town demonstrates a more mature use of the Slitheen, which unfortunately seems to have gone ignored (probably down to how underrated that episode was). I feel like the Slitheen would've worked perfectly in Return of Dr Mysterio, and might've made that episode better overall, as opposed to the alien brains that were a little underwhelming and not particularly scary. Part of me feels like that episode was maybe even intending to use them at some point with just how interchangeable they'd be.
    I'd like to see them back in S13, I think they'd be an interesting antagonist to revisit after so long (like S12 did with the Judoon) and could be really fun when pit against Jodie's more humorous take on the doctor.

  • @frazzlesreviews5379
    @frazzlesreviews5379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m glad someone else has highlighted why this story is an underrated classic.

  • @magoo9866
    @magoo9866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:35 Mickey: *shows 4 fingers*
    Also Mickey: "five times they suspected me"

  • @reddestrook3109
    @reddestrook3109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it helps that RTD kept this as a more light-hearted episode. It works to offset a lot of pretty dark stuff that happens (people are murdered and their skins worn as disguises, people killed on/offscreen, the aliens die horrifically and coat people in their guts, there's a threat of nuclear annihilation, etc.) The ridiculousness of it all works to distract the viewer and keep things balanced, otherwise the episode would be far too depressing and gritty.

  • @ig_4220
    @ig_4220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fart jokes yeah but the Slitheen's faces could've also looked a bit less cherubic in the cheek department

  • @ejigantor6634
    @ejigantor6634 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this two-parter. I don't personally enjoy the fart jokes, but they don't bother me for exactly the reason you state - some people, especially kids, love them.

  • @nightowl8477
    @nightowl8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even tho The Return of Doctor Mysterio stole the concept of unzipping and replacing political figures (which it acknowledges), I feel like it's done better there. It's the right tone.

  • @mrsamuelwatson12
    @mrsamuelwatson12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bloody love this episodes. Love how the aliens take over parliament. It’s brilliant. Come on giving how dark some of kills were in the episode, and how dark and brutal the next 2 parter was. I’m let farts slip.

    • @carolinemcgovern4488
      @carolinemcgovern4488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      While I'm not usually a toilet humour fan, for this one because everything else is so good, I'm going to let it slide.

  • @ciaran_telfer_18
    @ciaran_telfer_18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was one of the best 2 parters doctor who has ever had

  • @marosa1801
    @marosa1801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s definitely an underrated story. I found the Slitheen to be suitably creepy and I liked the concept of them wanting to destroy the Earth and sell it for profit. I’ve not come across that as an alien motive before. RTD was good at incorporating popular culture elements (24 hour news, game shows etc) into his stories in a way that Dr Who hasn’t really done in the Moffat and Chibnall eras.

  • @cookingwithamuppet1267
    @cookingwithamuppet1267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a kid i loved the Slitheen as monsters, and as a kid my grandma would sit me and my brothers down infront of the telly and watch the sarah jane adventures where the Slitheen where frequentky recuring monsters, they bring back some nice memories. I also love their cousins the Blatherieen, theyre just brown Slitheen but theyre always something i remember about the monsters

  • @kieranleehamilton
    @kieranleehamilton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Slitheen scared me senseless when I was a kid! Might be nostalgia, but growing up there were always a quintessential Doctor Who alien for me, and I always wondered why they never appeared again after Series 1. Guess I know now lol

  • @xandertoner
    @xandertoner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    *LONDON 1965*

  • @jamesstewart7736
    @jamesstewart7736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel and the way it champions the underdog. I enjoyed Aliens of London at the time. It felt very much in vein with the “zeitgeist” in 2005. It hasn’t aged particularly well but I will always remember it fondly. Russell T Davies might not have got it right every time but his age of Doctor Who was definitely a golden age for the show. 👍🏻

  • @jamesba6438
    @jamesba6438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I think The reason this episode gets a pass on the Political angle is because like a lot of political classic episodes, it is woven into the story seamlessly and doesnt feel forced, its organic it works with the story and doesnt jump out at you from out of no where, nor does it preach to you about somthing. I really feel like the newest stuff is way to, preachy and i feel like it often feels like episodes were made to preach first, entertain second, at least thats how it comes off for me, feel free to disagree

    • @kat7512
      @kat7512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly this! Even when I agree with the political agender of the recent seasons, it genuinely upsets me that the show is preaching so hard at me. They may as well pause the episode, face the camera, give the lecture and continue. There are no attempts of metaphors or subtlety, it's all screaming in your face.

    • @lolfulls
      @lolfulls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, this exactly what I thought!

    • @Sportnugget
      @Sportnugget 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kat7512 Like what almost literally happened in Oxygen?

  • @TheSimmr001
    @TheSimmr001 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:36 i love the police officer just going "...no"

  • @Sprudel1x1
    @Sprudel1x1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this episode. the Slitheen are my favorite Doctor Who villains :D

  • @GeorgeMarionerd
    @GeorgeMarionerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Another outstanding performance by Ecclestone" is a catchphrase at this point lol

  • @julil3021
    @julil3021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eccleston would’ve been everyone’s favorite if he got a few more seasons

  • @HarrysMovingMedia
    @HarrysMovingMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Without a VPN" 😆😆😆

    • @HarboWholmes
      @HarboWholmes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only I could have turned it into an ad read!

  • @elliotcrossan6290
    @elliotcrossan6290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Love this two-parter. And love the politics. I think the problem with the politics in Chibnall's era is that he's clearly trying too hard to be 'woke', yet the messages are actually less radical and less complex than Davies' Iraq satire or mass media critique, and SO much less subtle.
    Also, the Slitheen are way better than the Zygons, soz not soz 😁

    • @lordferbus2970
      @lordferbus2970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ye
      I still don't understand how Zygons can shoot orbs out of their hands that can turn people into hay or whatever it is

    • @becauseimapotato7599
      @becauseimapotato7599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great but soz? Hmm...

  • @hazelmaylebrun6243
    @hazelmaylebrun6243 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One overlooked thing... I think Russell T Davies was also poking fun at politicians with the fart jokes... denoting them as gassy windbags, which for me, makes the fart jokes funny for kids on one level and funny for adults on a whole different level.

  • @samuelthompson3327
    @samuelthompson3327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a kid this episode terrified me. The scene where they come out of the suits and blink sent me behind the sofa. Now I quite enjoy the episode but as a young child I though the Slithean where terrifying.

  • @littletimelord2755
    @littletimelord2755 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually really like these episodes. I look forward to them over episodes 2 and 3, because the pace of the 2 parter, as well as the good writing all just worked for me.

  • @anextremlyobbisehoovy8254
    @anextremlyobbisehoovy8254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually remember that this was the first time ever saw of dr who (but it’s a bit fuzzy since I was 5) and I didn’t know that it was dr who until years later

  • @michaelangus5602
    @michaelangus5602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a classic episode!!

  • @selenagomezkilldemi
    @selenagomezkilldemi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was literally my favourite episode when I was kid. I was about 6 when these aired, but I thought they were scary but cool

  • @dethlokprime8655
    @dethlokprime8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because the premise of Dr. Who is so extreme, the suspensions of disbelief are easier than for, say, Star Trek, which is a more grounded show. You roll the eyeballs a bit and move on. The farting is easy enough to overlook, and overall the Slitheen are fun villains.

  • @henrym6411
    @henrym6411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not too shabby! I’m not big on the Slitheen, but World War 3 rules, especially Mickey proving himself to The Doctor, Jackie is also hilarious in it

  • @emlodydjw6367
    @emlodydjw6367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    whaaaat? i love these episodes! i like the story , look of the aliens , yes its a bit funny but thats the charm of it all , but as always i love the interaction between the doctor and others

  • @GuineaPigEveryday
    @GuineaPigEveryday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bruh who said this episode was bad. Recently rewatched it and I still love it, don’t see why ppl would hate it just becuz it has some fart jokes?

  • @alicesophie123
    @alicesophie123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The slitheen gave me nightmares when I was a kid! This is the only episode of episode 1 I have an actual memory of watching! (I was 3 at the time)

  • @TomAndJerryEnjoyer
    @TomAndJerryEnjoyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i will keep this short it is a masterpiece.

  • @pickyphysicsstudent201
    @pickyphysicsstudent201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The flaws in these two episodes can basically be written out. Joseph Breen being put in charge, despite only having experience in sugar standards and Micky Being able to hack into Unit to access a missile seem like they could be rewritten. The former is just a throw away joke and the latte could've had the Doctor telling Micky a secret code that only he knows, because Unit entrusts it to him, so that Micky could bypass the firewalls and security defences. I think that would make sense. The spirit of the story, stays largely in tack.
    Chimbnals is politcal........ In not a good way. His messages are forces and often biased towards the far left end of things, where as the messages here are alot more subtle and neutral. Making fun of how humans are quick to panic over thinking and/or laughing at the flaws in a system or something like how soldiers are trained to be blindly obedient to following the Doctor, whom they just were pointing their guns at, because he took charge. It's making points that are subtle and aren't against any one group, nor are they just "lol, everyone is to blame lol".

  • @DCSMedia
    @DCSMedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although I don’t adore this story, I still find it underrated and you make some good points here.

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing is, why is it that every Prime Minister in the RTD era of Doctor Who does the most f***ed up things?
    Slitheen: Want the Earth to nuke itself.
    Harriet Jones: Orders Torchwood to wipe out the Sycorax (at least can be argued to be justified)
    The Master: Takes over the world with Humanity from the end of the Universe and planned for Galactic domination... so basically a standard plan by the Master.
    Everyone from Children of Earth (apart from Frobisher): Agree to had over 10% of children to the 456 because the Doctor couldn't be bothered to get his ass in gear despite being in the timeline at least twice as his 10th and 12th incarnations with the latter being even worse when he was *stuck* on Earth guarding Missy in the Vault and could have easily solved everything since he looked like the aforementioned Frobisher.

    • @HarboWholmes
      @HarboWholmes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And don't forget the recent story he wrote that insinuates that Boris Johnson is an Auton! I'm starting to think he just doesn't like Prime Ministers...

    • @Jedi_Spartan
      @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HarboWholmes oh yeah...

  • @bobbyd7524
    @bobbyd7524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You made some real good points in this video, but I still prefer the "Unquiet Dead" to this story.

  • @winterwolf2710
    @winterwolf2710 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really enjoying these! Fantastic commentary and I find myself really agreeing with your insights (although that may be the Eccelston lover in me showing) but one thing I'd love to see more of is audio from the episodes! Especially when you're talking about how good the acting or writing of a scene is, I'd love to just see ten seconds of that scene :)

  • @Read-alert
    @Read-alert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The episode itself is definitely very well crafted and very good for series one, but I would like to point out that it's not just the fart jokes that people dislike about the Slitheen, it's also the fat jokes. As a fat person myself, it does hurt to see a show I love openly mock me and play into unfortunate stereotypes. Of course I'm used to it, because all media does it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is demoralizing.
    Also, I know you're doing your series one rewatch right now, but given that even though Clara is my favorite companion, I still struggle to enjoy a lot of series 7b, I just want to say I really look forward to more of that series being featured in Defending the Despised!

    • @themostbritishpersonalive868
      @themostbritishpersonalive868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried not being fat or actually check the average weight to height ratio to see if you're actually fat or just self conscious

  • @RyanDB
    @RyanDB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't seen these episodes since they first aired. I was ten at the time, yet I clearly remember them, and I think that says enough about them for me

  • @adventurekitty1016
    @adventurekitty1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These 2 episodes are apart of my favourite episodes of Series 1

  • @Dalek44
    @Dalek44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I personally love The Slitheen. They are my favourite New Who villains and I really wanna see them in the show again.

  • @RealBadGaming52
    @RealBadGaming52 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved the two parter , if it wasn't for The Unquiet Dead and the aliens of london 2 parter id never have watched Doctor Who, I LOVE IT , and its Hillarious
    and it has one of the greatest lines in Sci-Fi History " do u mind not farting while im saving the world"

  • @lemsavage9473
    @lemsavage9473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These who episodes made me realize how much i actually loved the show. So the pirate site i was using to watch aliens in london cut off at the 10 minute point and after searching and searching site after site for the rest of the episode, that's when i knew. Eventually i did find the rest of the episode but it has a place in my heart for that very reason.

  • @tsgumi
    @tsgumi ปีที่แล้ว

    This episode of doctor who convinced my friends and I that our teacher at school was definitely a slitheen.

  • @smallkidneyjoe4046
    @smallkidneyjoe4046 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i adore the slitheen costume, the cgi may have aged poorly but those practical effects are absolutely perfect.

  • @cristian-ionutapostol8018
    @cristian-ionutapostol8018 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fucking loved the Slitheen as a teen, they were were fast, well designed, and had giant claws, perfect alien monsters!

  • @mitchellpate5938
    @mitchellpate5938 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are actually two of the episodes I wont skip ever

  • @Nicolesid1
    @Nicolesid1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "When I was a kid in 2005"
    Me: Man I'm old

  • @Murrlin27
    @Murrlin27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doctor Nine says, "Would you mind not farting while I'm trying to save the world?"

  • @paddystrongjaw9995
    @paddystrongjaw9995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 12:26 I was for sure this was gonna lead to a NordVPN ad

  • @jackrollins7806
    @jackrollins7806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought it was alright because in my opinion and I might be wrong but I think it’s a social commentary of politicians talking out their arses.

  • @sunnystrathern8396
    @sunnystrathern8396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ah yes, the episode where Rose calls the Doctor 'gay', my favourite

    • @william...1
      @william...1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sunny Strathern RTD was too and it was a joke aimed at adults

    • @kyoya6181
      @kyoya6181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@william...1 You know gay has multiple meanings right?

    • @becauseimapotato7599
      @becauseimapotato7599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyoya6181 Yeah but it's quite old fashioned

    • @ibtunesoriginals2629
      @ibtunesoriginals2629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Snowflake

  • @jonathancrabbe5135
    @jonathancrabbe5135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The aliens of London you could see the aliens in the most recent episode when the doctor remembers everything

  • @memoryfoam2285
    @memoryfoam2285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trident nuclear subs were running Windows XP until like 2019, I would not be surprised if that hack was possible

  • @DigitalLeonardo
    @DigitalLeonardo ปีที่แล้ว

    This has always been a favourite of mine. I thought it was a well crafted episode and even the fart jokes worked. It had such a likeable cast!

  • @10thdoctor15
    @10thdoctor15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like this story, the plot and the meaning behind it. And I like the Slitheen - there's nothing wrong with the farting, it's a bi-product of the technology, and it's funny. The difference between them and say the Zygons, is they are a family trying to make money, the Zygons would just invade.
    The effects from 2005 are not dated, I'd rather you don't say they look dated.

  • @tig3662
    @tig3662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was little I didn't see it as a joke.

  • @k.r.jester5406
    @k.r.jester5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The farting is so unsettling. I always felt like that was the second reason of the farting. First reason is to make the kids laugh, second reason is to make them seen so...alien.

  • @krustykrabmeat6881
    @krustykrabmeat6881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The slitheen scared the shit out of me as a kid just from the Sarah Jane Adventures let alone this. Now I’m older I absolutely love this story tho.

  • @mpbltd1
    @mpbltd1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video critique. Thanks so much👍

  • @bicko_07
    @bicko_07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “It’s the first time we get to experience the pacing of a 90 minute story”
    Season 22: Am I a joke to you?

  • @magoo9866
    @magoo9866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Slitheen are basically the Ferengi of Doctor Who, selling the earth for profit

  • @tinypizza4278
    @tinypizza4278 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I think the second story with the Slitheen is slightly better with the show showing that one of them got stranded (I think it was Margret the name of the one that’s still alive) and decided to go along with their cover of being a politician and that they were some what convinced to stop killing people before revealing that she in fact hasn’t changed

  • @xenon8117
    @xenon8117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:47 Toshiko!

  • @ferretzim8694
    @ferretzim8694 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my family, we joke about one of the Slitheen's disguises, as she kind of looks like Norway's Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

  • @thetimeshadow6769
    @thetimeshadow6769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It wasn’t actually Russel T Davies’ idea to have the Slitheen farting. It was the director who decided to include it.

  • @frankrappa4765
    @frankrappa4765 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this 2 parter. The Slitheen are funny villains and they are my favorite color green. The farting aliens didn't bug me at all. I hope they return in future series/episodes.

  • @leviticus2611
    @leviticus2611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was my first episode of doctor who I ever watched