How ruthless can Arsenal be this summer?

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  • On Wednesday night, Arsenal's Champions League hopes were ended in Munich, in their first quarter-final at that level in 14 years.
    Mikel Arteta was left lost for words in how to console his side, but they still remain in the Premier League title race.
    So how can the Spaniard ensure the Gunners' season doesn't peter out? How ruthless can they be in this summer's transfer window - or should Arteta be able to get more from the squad already at his disposal?
    Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic's David Ornstein and Art de Roche to discuss and analyse how different Arsenal could look the other side of the summer transfer window.
    00:00 Intro
    00:10 What Arsenal lack at the highest level
    04:40 Acceleration of Arsenal
    12:07 Decisions that Arteta needs to make
    21:25 Mikel Arteta & squad depth
    30:24 Arsenal’s recruitment strategy
    40:48 Profit from selling players
    48:11 Outro
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  • @jaggill521
    @jaggill521 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +219

    People are mad. Arteta as a rookie coach, first management job, has been phenomenal! He’s challenging some of the world’s best managers with a fairly thin squad. Wake up everyone! Arsenal have an amazing manager.

    • @OkA-007
      @OkA-007 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Exactly!
      Many even compare him to Xabi Alonso, who doesn't have to compete with Pep in the Bundesliga. Also, how long did it take Klopp to win major titles with Liverpool?
      M.A. is a good coach, and I just wish he's a little but adaptive and not so rigid with his tactics, and we'd surely win the major trophies

    • @paulinerrr795
      @paulinerrr795 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ⁠​⁠@@OkA-007and even pep is out of europe already… man city may be ahead in the league but its not like theyre going thru in europe rn lol

    • @sakinsoj
      @sakinsoj 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@OkA-007 Objectively, Alonso's feat is greater than anything Arteta has done so far. He took Leverkuson to their first league title in the Bundesliga over a team in Bayern that has been way more dominant in that league than City have been in England.

    • @backwardhippo6586
      @backwardhippo6586 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      An excellent player developer and tactically sound but he makes questionable lineup decisions in some games. Like Thomas partey at right back or Kai Havertz as a left 8.

    • @MrYuleyule
      @MrYuleyule 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@OkA-007i can assure you even in the Bundesliga Arteta would find a way of fucking up. And Alonso is unbeaten in ALL competitions! Not just Bundesliga... ALL!

  • @levicohen7333
    @levicohen7333 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    To be fair it's crazy to think that we expected arsenal in the final 4 or the final or even to win it in their very first season back in the competition. I think we will come back much stronger next season when the players realize they belong in those big games. We obviously need timber back: tomiyasu was being asked to play like zinchenko. we need support for martinelli on the left, I would say either rice as the 6 and sign a xhaka esque player or rice as that left sided 8 but with less instruction to fill in the spaces in the middle. We wonder why martinelli isnt the same player this year when we no longer play with zinny or xhaka on the left, both of whom are brilliant at linkup play and linebreaking passes.

    • @vadimkim2648
      @vadimkim2648 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the last games we needed support from Martinelli

    • @superphrank4804
      @superphrank4804 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We expected it because they had to play Porto and the worst Bayern side we've seen in the last 20 years. Arsenal are bottlers. The worst part about your team is that you demand an ovation for your failures. Can't even beat 4th-placed Villa to win the league. Celebrating a draw against City like it's the Champions League final. GTFOH.

    • @martinw2235
      @martinw2235 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@superphrank4804 Spurs fan identified

    • @superphrank4804
      @superphrank4804 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@martinw2235 I hate spurs. i am chelsea mate.

    • @MoManiaTV
      @MoManiaTV 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@superphrank48045-0 mate 😅

  • @snipedotgenius
    @snipedotgenius 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +89

    We have come to this stage in 3 years remember that ..
    I’m with Mikel and what he’s doing certain fans who want him out need to look at the bigger picture..

    • @danwatson611
      @danwatson611 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Man said three years ago

    • @sunshinemoonshine4022
      @sunshinemoonshine4022 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@danwatson611 I think he did badly in his maths in school

    • @michaelmckie9164
      @michaelmckie9164 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How much has he spent?

    • @stealthiscool
      @stealthiscool 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@danwatson611 Yes, the change in philosophy that led to this only began in the summer of 202, before that Arteta and Edu were still going for ageing stars like Willian

    • @user-gp6cc8jj6d
      @user-gp6cc8jj6d 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@michaelmckie9164 show me top team who hasn't spent loads, you want to go down the Chelsea route and constantly be sacking managers hoping you find the right one...

  • @hominem7169
    @hominem7169 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    I’m an Arsenal fan and I see no reason why arteta shouldn’t be signed for another season + more on another contract. I also see no reason why people are calling for him to be outed. Who else would you sign?? He has brought this club leaps and bounds in the past couple years.

    • @car9melo
      @car9melo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Only non arsenal fans want him out

    • @dromed13
      @dromed13 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I’m an Arsenal fan and I agree. These other boneheads want us to get rid of him but guess what we have to be constantly top 4, to make a serious push now. This is his first year in top 4 and we made it to the quarters. Obviously not all of his signings hit, but we’re in a good position. We just need to be patient and see what moves we make in the summer. The data is being accumulated but fans need to give him a fair shake, post UCL season.

    • @dromed13
      @dromed13 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is on the hot seat though, he needs to adjust and prove to us that he will make the changes necessary

    • @car9melo
      @car9melo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@dromed13 no he isnt 🤣

    • @HarmvanderWilt
      @HarmvanderWilt 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Dont throw the baby out with the bathwater. People dont realise how destructive it would be to let Arteta go given he build this squad. What you dont want is a bunch of players that came in under different managers like at Utd for example, not fitting together. And given that Carlo, Pep and Klopp aren't available, who would you get?
      But the question you should always ask is, is the manager getting the most out of the squad he works with? That is, within reason and a certain margin for error. Or is it the squad that still needs to go up a level? I think the latter. And Im sure it will. Because Arteta shows how ruthless he can be in order to progress. We dont have a player who scores a half chance, and you wont just find them in the market. The other way is more quality depth to make sure everybody is fresh, and than with age and experience, the likes of Saka will only get better. Most player peak between 25 and 32. We have a big window of oppertunity coming up and the titles will come. Especially as that window comes around the same time as Pep will leave.

  • @Lioness_UTV
    @Lioness_UTV 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Interesting discussion. One thing that stuck out to me is how there seems to be a distinction between the first 11 and the squad players. In 2024 there is ONLY the Squad, yes there is a spine of the team but his lack of rotation of key positions is an issue over a long season. There should be a competitive cover for Saka, so he isn't run into the ground and where he can be challenged to keep improving.
    As a Villa fan, i have a lot of admiration for the Arsenal team, I think you are having a phenomenal season.
    Having said that, the win by Villa was a tactical battle. The first half play by Villa was a tactic, a high risk and reward to set up the 2nd half. His objective was to make Arsenal play, push them as much as possible, make them run and move. To accomplish this Villa did have to defend like fiends but it was deemed to be a calculated risk as we are organized and have done it well before. Second half he tweaked the formation and unleashed the players to go forward at full pace as planned. Knowing that his team had conserved energy and Arsenal had not.
    I only mention this because the lack of rotation over a season has a huge impact in the last 3rd - this is on Arteta.

    • @F_Dot_
      @F_Dot_ 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sell us Watkins 😅

    • @B.W_edits
      @B.W_edits 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@F_Dot_ too old

  • @adrianmedina2629
    @adrianmedina2629 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    People are delusional. Saying: “Oh, how many years dows he need” or “He is not good at team management”.
    He plays in the premier league and he’s consistently competing for first place. It doesn’t matter how many yesr it takes, there is nobody out there who can get us anything better than him rn in one or two seasons. Nobody. Look at posteglo, Ten hag, Pochetin, Tuchel… these are considered part of the best managers rn. Futbol is hard bruv. You won’t win every yesr and you won’t win every trophy. What matters is we play with passion, heart and ambition.

    • @NikkiStamp-or9oe
      @NikkiStamp-or9oe 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's what hurts man...we didn't show any of that in Germany.

    • @DMM6
      @DMM6 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're pathetic. If you performed poorly at your job for 5 years, I can assure you your company would give you your marching papers. The "there's nobody better out there" is such a poor excuse.

    • @ijl-cy9pp
      @ijl-cy9pp 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      At last an Arsenal fan with some perspective. There is no entitlement for arsenal to win the league or the UCL, the fact you're in a position to challenge is down to Arteta (and Edu to some degree).
      It's not like he turned up and you stopped winning the league.

    • @B.W_edits
      @B.W_edits 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ijl-cy9pp fr

    • @jaggill521
      @jaggill521 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree. We were have had a good CL campaign and can’t expect more than that this year. And Arteta as a new manager in his first role has been nothing short of incredible. The future looks bright.

  • @GarconBlanc
    @GarconBlanc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ayo and Art are wonderful, and David is the best asset The Athletic have. They all speak clearly and insightfully.

  • @ryanmichael11
    @ryanmichael11 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thanks Guys, good measured insight!! 👍

  • @azundaowiriwa2674
    @azundaowiriwa2674 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Very good takes . My issue with Mikel Arteta is the squad management. If you're not going to trust these players why keep them Smith Rowe should have been on that Bayern pitch

    • @jacobalexander4167
      @jacobalexander4167 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Simple answer, ESR isn't good enough, he's not who we think he is, he's mid table level at best

    • @Kitofthearts
      @Kitofthearts 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well then let Emery snap him up & see how he performs on a weekly basis. I am concerned ESR is not getting game time , because Alonso could sign him or Reiss Nelson & watch them blossom

    • @jacobalexander4167
      @jacobalexander4167 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Kitofthearts yeah, same way willock and maitland niles are balling, right?

  • @samwest8042
    @samwest8042 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When chasing in these crunch games, we seem to get caught between not wanting to concede further and going all out to turn things around. It’s a balance we haven’t got right in several big games over the last 3 seasons. We need to take bigger risks in these critical parts of games. The second CL tie was a text book example.

  • @Kitofthearts
    @Kitofthearts 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fans really need to maintain calm, even if they don’t sign anyone over the summer, the squad are going to be able to develop & improve throughout the whole 24-25 season. By promoting academy players and allowing those in the squad already to play more minutes, the summer of 2025-26 where the major signings are going to need to be made, in order to win the league & UCL. Next season is going to similar to this year but with more emphasis on Arteta’s ability to innovate & coach. Alonso is proving that he is capable of the main serial winner 🏆

  • @leemcphail634
    @leemcphail634 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Imagine if we win the next 5...... City have drawn a game between now and the final game...... Liverpool have matched us win for win over the next 5 games. We come to the final day with only GD separating the 3 of us with us against Everton at the Emirates, City at home to West Ham and Liverpool at home to Wolves! Currently, we are +49 with City +44 and Liverpool +41...... We need to keep our foot on the gas and score goals as our GD is NOT insurmountable! It's going to be a close call, but we need to keep the faith and get behind the lads! COYG!!!

  • @alexcoyg3281
    @alexcoyg3281 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Its the emotional reaction to the exit and loss to Villa. Just like when a player does not play, all of a sudden HE IS THE ONE who is the perfect answer to all the problems, Arteta is doing a fantastic job, he is the right manager and thinking that we can get someone better is just delusional at this point.This is not a video game where you switch and change things without affecting the overall performance of the team. Mistakes cost us games, not the tactics. Arteta does only trust 13 players, so exhaustion is the reason, we obviously don't have City's bench quality so we run players into the ground. We know that at least 3 players have to be sold in the summer and Saka needs an alternative who does not drop our level of play where that player becomes invisible on the pitch. Timbers injury combined with Tomis and Partey's has significantly affected a lot of players physical levels. COYG! This is still a very good season👏

    • @Nostradanus86
      @Nostradanus86 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Look at City's bench against United .... they have 3 great players on it & tend to have 4 sub players of a certain class the other 5 subs are not at all.. Pep like the same 15 players played & uses 3 others here and there

  • @Robbeans81
    @Robbeans81 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    We need a killer striker sadly Eddie isn’t at the elite level . Proud of the team though

    • @haimainjauo242
      @haimainjauo242 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As if Gabriel Jesus is the killer striker Arsenal need 😂

    • @ginganinja2872
      @ginganinja2872 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@haimainjauo242 That's why he said we need a killer striker

    • @nabeel426
      @nabeel426 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cole Palmer has scored more PL goals in his first full PL than Nketiah has scored since he made his debut in 2017

    • @rubentrujillo1572
      @rubentrujillo1572 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@nabeel426 He has as many pen attempts as Arsenal team itself! It's like Bruno in 20/21

    • @nabeel426
      @nabeel426 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@rubentrujillo1572 fair but it’s still crazy to think about

  • @stuartclarkson48
    @stuartclarkson48 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved the vid, Agreed alot of our issues is going to be in midfield next season and depth, ESR, Partey, Jorginho and Viera are all either not good enough injury prone or moving on. I'd love to see Gibbs-White, Zubimendi and Kimmich (If those rumours are true) come in and push us on to a new level but we need those players and a 20/25 goal a season striker and a Saka back up/competition

  • @TheJoker-um9tp
    @TheJoker-um9tp 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bayern Munich just drew last night against Madrid, we aren't far away from the best around. The players are still young. I was told that man city finished 2nd in the league. Liverpool finished 1st once at least 4/5 times. Arsenal are similar to man city when they were building a team that can win the league. Liverpool had a much better front 3 when they competed with city.

  • @captainsmoke1612
    @captainsmoke1612 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    They should get this dominant midfielder from Leverkusen. Granit Xhaka. He'd be a perfect fit.

  • @giovanniebrady966
    @giovanniebrady966 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s the first nice heard Ornstein talk like a fan, or sound like a fan.
    He’s always managed to hide his fandom behind Ornstein the journalist, but here, you can see the fandom (the disappointment/passion).
    We all share your sentiments David.

  • @Advoc8te4Truth
    @Advoc8te4Truth 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Technically, Arsenal is ahead of schedule regarding the process. Just looking at the squad upgrading takes time. Arsenal is not Chelsea. We're not signing 7 or 8 players in one window. ❤😂
    2-3 players is optimal as in players designed to improve the squad and add options to playing style. For me Fabio Vieira is on the chopping block along with quite a few fringe players.
    Arsenal are looking for a world-class first XI and a top quality bench. Part of this strategy is upgrading our youth ranks at all levels.
    Obviously this all takes time and resources but Arsenal have made it clear by supporting Arteta that they are happy with the process. ❤😂

  • @xmramix
    @xmramix 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whoever wants Arteta out is MAD! what he has done with what he have is simply Genius!

  • @chomalen
    @chomalen 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Key areas of focus for Arsenal are GK (proprer sweeper keeper with actual GK/shot stopping ability, a hybrid of Raya/Ramsdale really), DM (allows Rice to do more box-box, similar to Xhaka did, and contribute goals whilst providing the metal with mental stability), LB that isn't injury prone (hopefully Timber/Tomi but Zinchenko does not provide enough in pure defending or one-one situations) and an out-out striker that does not hesitate nor lack for confidence in that situation (Kai does a role, but for him to be more effective, you need winger-forwards and Saka/Martinelli don't fit that profile despite having goals in them).
    The point about Jesus and Zinchenko being outgrown is on point. They are now squad players, the glue-guys for a whole season, with odd starts against lower table and relegation teams. The heavy minutes on starters is so visible to see. The bench depth, as in using them, is also a question over Arteta. The deadwood need to go and players willing to compete are the priority. Egos to the side.
    EDIT - I think we forget how much of an impact Timber could have had for this campaign. Only need to look at the Community Shield game to see what he offered. Shame unfortunately.

  • @kaikai3837
    @kaikai3837 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love the way David talks about arsenal proper fan man ❤️👊🏾

    • @AJ-bm2kh
      @AJ-bm2kh 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      David supports Spurs btw

    • @kaikai3837
      @kaikai3837 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AJ-bm2kh even better then cause ur means he’s not bias

  • @snaggiz
    @snaggiz 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think what I would like to see is improving those rotational options. The gap between the first choice XI and the bench players is too big in most positions imo.

  • @HarmvanderWilt
    @HarmvanderWilt 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Lets not forget we got more pts last year that some title winning squads (the 1998 one e.g.). This year we are on track for an 85-90 pts season. Its just that City forces you to be near perfect and thats a tall ask for a young squad like ours. However, most of our best players will peak between 2025 and 2030. And with Pep probably leaving, we should set ourselves up to make the most out of that window of oppertunity. Patience gooners. We are not getting the most out of the upcoming years by screaming for Arteta's head or big changes. We have build a great squad and everybody within the club seems to be in alignment (key word for success imo) to do what is needed. Don't undo that. And let's be realistic about CL, because there is a reason why Chelsea and City won the league much earlier that their first CL. Its not Fifa where you just carry over your form from one competition to another.

    • @paaklapi
      @paaklapi 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The problem is that football isn't played on paper; it is just as much a mental game as it is a physical one. Football teams are teams like every other team, and they too are shaped by their experiences together. With two (and most likely three) consecutive years where the team has choked at the business end of the season, all their defining moments are bitter failures. That creates a psychological hurdle for them which I fear is too high to overcome; they simply can't believe in winning because they've lost too much. Next season will be last chance saloon, assuming it isn't too late already.

  • @Pranjal_Sharma_Sports
    @Pranjal_Sharma_Sports 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love your work David Ornstien really ispired by it, cobersge of london football is outstanding ❤

  • @ljheyes8163
    @ljheyes8163 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Just remember that Klopp has only won the CL once.
    Leave Arteta alone people it’s his first year in the competition

  • @sluckpuppet593
    @sluckpuppet593 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ayo da goat no cap!

  • @amt7386
    @amt7386 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    During Wenger's heydays at Arsenal from 98 to 05. Never went above the Quarters. Arteta's first season in UCL, people criticising already

  • @kevinnivek364
    @kevinnivek364 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When you look at our wage bill compared to other clubs, we are on 250m gbp compared to 500m to 700m gbp for the other Europe elite clubs. We rank around 12th. My point is we have done really well and we have room to improve even further with UCL prizemoney to add to our FFP calculations.

  • @kritikal1993
    @kritikal1993 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The reason we doing so well is because he hardly rotates the squad. As soon as he rotates we’re not the same team. And you can’t keep playing the same players because of fatigue. That’s something arteta needs to work on

  • @jameshaas3533
    @jameshaas3533 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Maverick players: I agree there was a difference in the threat level of the two forward lines in both games. Bayern has more speed and explosiveness on the wings and more threat upfront. Arsenal needs at least one faster player and an extra striker

  • @JR01015
    @JR01015 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    *I disagree that Arsenal necessarily need to sign this “maverick” off the cuff type of players. When both Saka, Martinelli and ESR initially burst into the first team all 3 showed the dynamism, creativity, skill and flair facing past defenders, showing dribbling prowess. But all of that flair has been coached out of them over the last few years. You can literally watch Saka dribble and dance past 3 defenders vs his inability to go past a full back 1v1 right now. And I blame Arteta and the coaching staff.*

  • @johnbrady3015
    @johnbrady3015 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Any arsenal fan who thinks arteta should go when city win the league and blame him and think he is not up to the job are bonkers.its so hard to win a league to be in the mix with city and Liverpool is a great effort.going out of champions league is toss of a coin in knockout stage.only arsenal could win a league with a game to go and want a new manager if he lost by two points to city to pep to cheaters

  • @ToeRagFC
    @ToeRagFC 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The challenge for Arsenal now is squad management.
    Much is said about how much lower Arsenal's wage bill is than the rest of the 'big six'. Those players who are on comparitively lower wages will now want pay rises or they'll leave. That needs to be paid for. Arsenal are already close to FFP but do need to also strengthen their squad.
    Arsenal's finances are such that I doubt they'll be able to do both. Expect a Saka or Odegard transfer to Man City coming soon!!

  • @legendsaffa
    @legendsaffa 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haha he heard Petit talk about the psychopath and he’s brought it today! “There’s only one Keown, Keeeown, there’s only one Keown” What a legend!! Loving this morning!!

  • @101deepak101
    @101deepak101 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ornsteins first answer so long TH-cam has made me take an ad break

  • @SGL2
    @SGL2 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    My biggest disappointment with our CL campaign. We never showed the Arsenal I've seen in PL. We were another team in the CL and now that team is sipping into the PL

    • @Lioness_UTV
      @Lioness_UTV 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To be fair, it is a learning experience how to navigate successfully the Euro and Prem matches. And by getting this far and losing Arsenal will learn a huge amount in their growing maturity and take it into next season.

    • @HarmvanderWilt
      @HarmvanderWilt 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just how many years there are between City's first league title and CL. Or Chelsea's. It takes a lot to carry over form from one competition to another.

    • @nuudelz3711
      @nuudelz3711 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mentality. Players believe they can in the PL now cause last year was close. This was this groups literal first CL run together. Takes time to deal with the nerves

    • @gabjavc
      @gabjavc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also have to consider the quality of the opposition, we're playing against lots of fodder teams in the PL who pale in comparison to the European powerhouses we've encountered in the CL. When we did play against lesser teams like PSV return leg we smashed them.
      Because it's our first season back, my perspective is to associate this CL campaign with last year's PL campaign, where emotions were running high and players were still getting accustomed to the fact that we're contenders now. I reckon next season we'll bring in the right players and develop more killer instincts to do much better than this season. Only upwards from here 📈 COYG!

  • @agill2103
    @agill2103 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kai and Jesus are GREAT!

  • @qasim13
    @qasim13 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Arsenal need to remember the grass isn’t always greener. As a Utd fan I’d take Arteta in a heartbeat🤣

  • @paulinerrr795
    @paulinerrr795 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i dont get the constant comparison between ucl form and league form. different competitions with different difficulties. every new opponent in ucl is exponentially better or tougher than the last. not so in the premier league where sides can be a little more predictable by their current run of form. the season is long and anyone in multiple competitions will find it difficult to maintain form. as of today all the premier league sides are out of european competition. small mistakes are magnified in all european competitions, and the later in the season it gets, the more mistakes will stack up. its all down to form and margin of error.

  • @paulinerrr795
    @paulinerrr795 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ppl are so eager to chat shit about arteta but only bc they have already forgotten how MISERABLE the entire situation was beforehand. ppl’s memories are too short. zoom out and remember how defeated and hopeless it was about 6 years ago.
    could things be better? obviously. but theres an upward trajectory and a new energy that feels pretty nice. dont wanna give that up yet for potential highs bc lets be real the potential lows are much more likely.

  • @samueljacobs9679
    @samueljacobs9679 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This season, our midfield has been a persistent issue. Acquiring Kai Havertz was a misstep; what we truly needed was a midfielder adept at driving the attack forward. Havertz's ball retention has hindered us, rather than progressing the game. Looking ahead, a midfielder who can support Odegaard in orchestrating the attack is crucial. Diversifying our midfield options would not only alleviate the burden on our captain but also benefit players like Jesus, Saka, and Martinelli.

    • @johnbrady3015
      @johnbrady3015 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He is building it takes time

  • @rushnafwadud
    @rushnafwadud 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some players will need 5 months to click, like a Havertz who is a theoretical fit rather than an out and out obvious placement. Others, like Declan Rice, are practically purchases who you know and see eventually becoming mainstays from Day 1. All player profiles aren’t the same, you know.

    • @rushnafwadud
      @rushnafwadud 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And I really refuse to believe we’re selling ESR. There were narratives like this during the year Martinelli was being brought back from injury and coached to play in a slightly different manner. Reiss Nelson and Eddie Nketiah are the two players who will bring that “pure profit”. They’re easily evaluated at £35-40m in this market. They’re obviously not going to clear out the entire bench. That’s mad.

  • @stanadams5541
    @stanadams5541 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Timber will make a difference next season,a new midfielder and a new centre forward will be a big plus and now after dragging the deadwood for five seasons is the time for Eddie,Elneny,Soames etc to go and strengthen the squad like Man City so that we have good replacements and not just tryers or popular guys who are average players.

  • @JackJohnson-lp9jr
    @JackJohnson-lp9jr 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine 2 Odergaards on the pitch. Odegaard, Luiz from Villa and Dec Rice in Midfield. That's an Arsenal that will terrify any team.

  • @teslimadekoya1473
    @teslimadekoya1473 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Make a video about Tottenham

  • @ryanlewis4556
    @ryanlewis4556 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    If we sign a striker this summer it pretty much renders the Havertz signing as a waste of money because he's a terrible midfielder and an average at best striker.

    • @user-wx3hg2eb6p
      @user-wx3hg2eb6p 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      will 2nd choice. At least better than jesus & Eddie

    • @ryanlewis4556
      @ryanlewis4556 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@user-wx3hg2eb6p £65m and £300k a week to be a back up striker? What a waste of money

    • @TomDerrigAdvertising
      @TomDerrigAdvertising 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of the 600 million, there has been alot of wasted money on transfers...when did kai havertz, click....he did nothing in the last two games, too slow

  • @lankankeys8310
    @lankankeys8310 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arsenal mainly need a top striker who will convert chances and not hesitate in the box. Arsenal spend alot of time playing touches in and around the opposition box with no end product. Big concern.

  • @montanaprime
    @montanaprime 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What does Age of Arteta have to do with the Results? These reporters man never fail to find an Excuse

  • @Educatedfisherman
    @Educatedfisherman 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The point is we need a deadly finisher and Jesus is just not that person

  • @akintolu
    @akintolu 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It's not about massive clear out, wonder how people are not talking of the need for a tactical play. We just dominating possession in our half without penetration and intensity

    • @slyarsenal
      @slyarsenal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      If you question tactical play then you're not really understanding the football Arteta plays. In 2021, after Mourinho beat Arsenal with Spurs, he commended Arteta and the team for the way we strategically play. Mourinho mentioned how Arsenal are able to change shapes by building play with 4-5 players and so on. He said the points on the table and results didn't truly reflect our performances at the time. Mourinho's a pro coach. You're not. There's an intergalactic gap in what you know compared to them.

    • @PaulClarke-dv5sr
      @PaulClarke-dv5sr 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@slyarsenal Mission Failed Mikel with yet more excuses

    • @thejoulesthief6841
      @thejoulesthief6841 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PaulClarke-dv5sr you can't be upset with Arteta when we haven't even *sniffed* the Quarter Finals in years.

    • @PaulClarke-dv5sr
      @PaulClarke-dv5sr 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thejoulesthief6841 If you're happy with it then you're the reason why Arsenals fanbase is beyond embarrassing

  • @jordantamai5192
    @jordantamai5192 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Drink every time he says "alluded to".

  • @Aousie
    @Aousie 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    David says a lot without saying a lot.

  • @om4482
    @om4482 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These guests seem to be very well informed about Arsenal.

  • @JM-md4ux
    @JM-md4ux 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Dunno if it’s scheduling volume/ style or what but top English teams are having issues. Liverpool , city , arsenal.

  • @giovanniebrady966
    @giovanniebrady966 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, this year, the title race needs to go down to the finals 2 games.
    We play twice before City plays again, the gap needs to be 4 points when City next takes the pitch. Anything else is a failure.

  • @Neosisl
    @Neosisl 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Arsenal have no number 8. Someone who has a bit of bite, can progress the ball and do some dirty work. 2 10s and a 6 is not a good midfield. I would love to see Barella at Arsenal.

    • @blackexcellence267___
      @blackexcellence267___ 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've watched inter too many times to tell barella is the type of player they wouldn't let go that easy

  • @user-vf1iy6bb4h
    @user-vf1iy6bb4h 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ornstein is definitely a Pro Arteta! Good for balance tho but the pressure is on

  • @tuffmbassador522
    @tuffmbassador522 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ayo went from smiley to sad in a span of a week

  • @abdulhamidnassur6795
    @abdulhamidnassur6795 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The team is competitive bt we have a lot of dead wood players that cannot be relied upon.... people like elneny nelson esr nketiah and viera need to be moved on because the the manager doesn't trust them at all since all this players combined have played like 800mins of football yet people like saka odegaard rice saliba white each have almost over 2500mins of football

  • @trashed4005
    @trashed4005 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Bit weird to see this after Arteta was apparently building a dynasty a couple weeks ago lmfao

    • @crash17289
      @crash17289 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is. Takes time though. Everyone agrees with it except rival city/pool and non-rival (spurs, MU, chelsea, etc.) fans.
      Klopp took several years and only has 1 PL to show for it. City is a juggernaut albeit with 115 pending charges.
      Rome wasn't built in a day unless you're City/PSG

  • @TheMeloman79
    @TheMeloman79 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it as doom and gloom for Arsenal though? Can’t see that though.

  • @Blue_Pumpkin
    @Blue_Pumpkin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arsenal needs to shop for magic. The existing players have already given their 110%.

  • @ferrm1992
    @ferrm1992 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gyorekes, Isak or Solanke. 1 or 2 at least and an LCM (Koopmeiners). Squeeze at least 40M for Nketiah (very hard)

  • @gunndecagon271
    @gunndecagon271 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Martinelli it's time to move you on

  • @kevinnivek364
    @kevinnivek364 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thierry Henry is right, EPL teams struggle when they are asked to play 3 games in 7 days

  • @JP-kj5es
    @JP-kj5es 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    lol literally last week they were proclaiming Arsenal are building a dynasty

    • @DazBull26
      @DazBull26 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      talking like they would breeze past Villa

    • @triptwo425
      @triptwo425 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They are building, they need a couple more transfer windows.
      Things are going well in my opinion.
      Compared to the mustafi, holding, Oxlade chamberlain, banter Ozil etc.....
      It's a great time to be an Arsenal fan.

    • @sazidhasankhan9144
      @sazidhasankhan9144 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes we are.

    • @olaosidele
      @olaosidele 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bruh. Extremely premature 😂

    • @haimainjauo242
      @haimainjauo242 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A PLASTIC BOTTLE MANUFACTURING DYNASTY OF COURSE. THE AUDACITY TO EVEN MENTION THE WORD DYNASTY IS GIVING SECOND-HAND EMBARRASSMENT!

  • @Pranjal_Sharma_Sports
    @Pranjal_Sharma_Sports 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    David Ornestien the OG

  • @olaosidele
    @olaosidele 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    From dynasty to clear out? 😅

    • @StylistecS
      @StylistecS 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ther was always goin to be a clear out this Summer.

  • @nikoloff2964
    @nikoloff2964 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please stop stating that Vinicius is some sort of a generational talent. Madrid fan here, this dude i EXTREMELY overrated, just dive down into his stats in fbref, Rodrygo is the name of the game.

  • @ohdangarang
    @ohdangarang 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arsenal won the same number of cup as ETH, but you dont see any criticism on his lost yesterday. wonder why?

  • @columcunningham4458
    @columcunningham4458 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    David a Mets fan? It’s a world of pain / Arsenal supporter of 38 years

  • @stevenwiggett9518
    @stevenwiggett9518 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If we buy a striker where is havertz gonna play midfield there we go again it don't work

  • @user-gp6cc8jj6d
    @user-gp6cc8jj6d 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Orstein being a bit over the top, hinting at sacking Arteta without saying the words

  • @danwatson611
    @danwatson611 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People think arsenal are signing a 100m striker. Not a chance. They’re not going to put a 65m signing on the bench.

    • @sterlingmarshel6299
      @sterlingmarshel6299 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they signed a 100+ million average midfielder

  • @ArseianLee
    @ArseianLee 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doing the same thing and expect different result is crazy… arsenal transfer approach still under Edu Arteta era and their owners is Kroenke. This set has brought softness and bottling to Arsenal and strengthen that traits.

  • @azurelas1
    @azurelas1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quite a few players are "improvable".
    Martinelli, Zinchenko, Jorginho,
    ..

    • @moooviecow
      @moooviecow 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where was starboy, Saka been all season?

  • @user-vs6qe3sq7f
    @user-vs6qe3sq7f 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They need a top striker move Jesus to the wing or a second striker

  • @mananmehta6910
    @mananmehta6910 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sell- Ramsdale, Tierney, Zinchenko, Partey,Nketiah & Reiss Nelson

  • @Alfredsson14
    @Alfredsson14 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I see many teams looking for selling players...but,who'll buy them? The Saudi's blow probably vanished

  • @BigDome1
    @BigDome1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm sorry but he's within two points of the FFP cheats City who have an elite manager and an insanely expensive squad. How is it even a discussion whether or not he's doing a good job? He's doing an absolutely amazing job. Football fans are unbearable.

  • @anuragdandekar6064
    @anuragdandekar6064 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arsenal needs to world class forward players, one striker and one to take some load off Odegaard. And absolutely need to sell Nelson, Jesus, nketiah and esr

  • @boshankers12
    @boshankers12 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Arteta has revitalised Arsenal in every way, much to his credit. That being said, he has no clue how to manage in game, how to use subs effectively. Another massive problem is how he drives his players into the ground every year as he has no clue how to build a squad and utilise that squad.

    • @ironcrusader728
      @ironcrusader728 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      So he has revitalised arsenal in everyway except the main two things that matter, squad building and game management? Make your mind up

    • @slyarsenal
      @slyarsenal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're clueless! Arsenal's in-game management has improved immensely since last season. How do you think we've only lost 1 game in the EPL in 2024? Damn are fans are dumb. Stop listening to other twats and learn about the actual game

    • @boshankers12
      @boshankers12 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ironcrusader728 ok, you’re clearly a simple person so I’ll break it down for you.
      Arteta has revitalised Arsenal as a team. Before, it was old, uncompetitive, valueless and the team had a poor attitude. These things are all now the opposite.
      The second part is arteta himself. He overuses his favourite players until they break down despite having a pretty talented squad. He doesn’t know how to change the teams approach when things don’t go to plan. These are massive parts of management.
      Hopefully that clears things up for you simple man.

    • @sachitchowdary550
      @sachitchowdary550 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@boshankers12okay so tell me if saka doesnt play on right who will play and score those goals? Artetas subs have the highest number of goals this season. His in game management has amazed so many people. Theres squad depth now in the team but not a strong depth. Many players were injured and many didnt play on a such a big stage. They are quite new so this hinders the performance and arteta knows that, thats why he keeps using players overly.

    • @boshankers12
      @boshankers12 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sachitchowdary550 Jesus played on the right against city at the emirates earlier in the season and he was brilliant. There’s a reason Saka looks destroyed during and after games, he’s fatigued/injured. Our squad is fully fit right now and we aren’t using them. These players are all new signings or had their contracts extended. There’s no excuses to not know how to use them. Our first 11 have played a ridiculous amount of minutes compared to city and pool.

  • @legendaltair2733
    @legendaltair2733 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arsenal needs a prolific 9 . Who can score goals. Because Arsenal wingers are not clinical finishers. Jesus is like firminho not good in finishing. But unlike Arsenal Liverpool had salah and sane who is very clinical. So Arsenal needs a big strong centre forward who scores 25 goals a season so that when the wingers are misfiring he will somehow find a way to put the ball back in the net..

  • @user-zg9di6fk3t
    @user-zg9di6fk3t 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Isak is ideal striker 4 Arsenal

  • @Crevulus
    @Crevulus 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    David Ornstein talks for so long and adds so little.
    Ayo: "David, just a quick one..."
    Then he proceeds to talk for 6 minutes.

  • @AzStan-yu5dc
    @AzStan-yu5dc 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very weird tone from David on this one. Felt less like an insight from a journalist and more like a review of Artetas time at Arsenal from some weird personal perspective

  • @taironmartins2783
    @taironmartins2783 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What I saw was there was “raça” a word in Portuguese that means grit that comes from the soul. They looked like kids getting bullied, have some self respect and pick yourself up, I love Arteta but his playing style doesn’t allow for creativity. Hopefully his helps them and Arteta grow.

  • @adrianlink480
    @adrianlink480 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Once again the English media thinks English bench players not good enough for the national team are the answers to the team’s problems. Idiotic!!!!!! ESR, Eddie, Ramsdale, and Reiss MUST GO!!!!

  • @martonjanos835
    @martonjanos835 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Isak/gyokeres,tonali/guimares,nico williams and pedro neto need to be bought lb,rb cover. I’d get rid of nketiah,nelson,partey,esr,zinchenko,tomiyasu,vieira! It’s time to be ruthless now!!

  • @slyarsenal
    @slyarsenal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    New FFP rules are designed to specifically allow big teams to keep spending ridiculous amounts of money. How does Man City, a club with less heritage than Arsenal, Liverpool, Utd, Bayern, Real Madrid, Barca etc earn more commercial revenue than Real Madrid, a team with rich history, heritage, greater worldwide fans? City are funded by State and have cooked the books so many times to mask internal investment that even governing bodies find it difficult to track monies from fabricated offshore companies by the City owners with facades of commercial investment. So if teams are allowed to spend up to 70% of commercial revenue, and for example City earn 1billion, that means they can spend 700m. Now compare that 70% to a team like Burnley who for example makes only 100m, it means they can only spend 70m. How preposterous! PSR rules should remain as they are with a cap of -105m loss over 3 yrs so all teams adhere to the same mark. This is Uefa's greed at work again. Teams like Chelsea and Man city financially doped this league, hence why ffp existed in the first place but now the rules have been changed again to accommodate these teams in fear of sanctions these two teams could face. I knownthe investigation into City remains, but Uefa is throwing them a lifeline even before they've hit the water to drown. The game is corrupt!

  • @user-kk4zw5jo4t
    @user-kk4zw5jo4t 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So many words with so little said...

  • @nightking8490
    @nightking8490 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arsenal should stop gettng ruthless with it fans.

  • @endatreanor5263
    @endatreanor5263 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Liverppol's wage budget is 141 million per year. Arsenal's is 171million so although Liverpool have paid more on agent fees. there is no comparison in spending.

  • @danfromgossipgirl
    @danfromgossipgirl 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arteta cant get the most out of the bench and the deep like Pep and Klopp have. That’s been the difference

  • @Zaba_the_Dogling
    @Zaba_the_Dogling 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Obviously trossard should’ve started instead of haverz who has done nothing, as usual.

  • @skim7221
    @skim7221 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We so desperately need arteta to spend up to 1 billion soon. Then how the fans will turn on him will be the best entertainment.

  • @Juiceman390
    @Juiceman390 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine actually thinking Arsenal shouldn’t bring him back lol

  • @jboothroyd6531
    @jboothroyd6531 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They lost to a 1 time UCL winning TEAM and a 6 time winning club. Yes that counts but it's not as unfavourable as it is made out to be

  • @MrJakewray
    @MrJakewray 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chido obi was born in November not December

    • @ironcrusader728
      @ironcrusader728 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well you showed them