Let me just say that Dustin Hoffman’s performance is 1000% accurate. The “I’m an excellent driver” line that reoccurs in the most random places of conversation always makes me tear up, coz it’s exactly what my younger brother is like. I love this movie, one of the reasons being coz it’s like watching me and my brother
He did the research too. Dustin hoffman to prepare for the role, lived with many autistic people. I will say the people are just different. Maybe many don't understand that, but god made them different and that is good. A Little difference matters in the world, even if people don't understand that.
These guys were spot on. Excellent commentary on ‘one character who can’t change, and the other who doesn’t want to change’. Wish these guys were still alive doing this sort of show.
3:13 Oh, 1988. 😄 Siskel is so adorable thinking Hoffmans role was thankless, and only a few high caliber actors would do it. Then he won the Oscar, and every actor pushed to the front of the line for mental disability roles. It went from groundbreaking to cliche in 5 years.
@@andrewcutler1380 In a scene in the Score, Edward Norton revealed how easy it is for a competent actor to play disability. Maybe it's a coincidence, or maybe because the Other Sister, Nell, and other unwatchable performances turned it into an embarrassing cliche, but both I Am Sam and Radio came out after all that, and the codgers on academy didn't fall for it so easily anymore. By then, the awards switched to awarding noteworthy actors who played gay.
@@andrewcutler1380 Daniel Day Lewis in “my left foot” as well Pacino did Scent of a Woman of course but I think he’s in Hoffman’s class and would’ve done it anyway...
I miss watching Siskel and Ebert. Their banter back and forth was just plain fun to watch. Rain Man is easily in my top 10 favorite movies of all time.
I was saddened when I heard Gene died in 1999. I liked Roger better at this time with these glasses and how his voice sounded and face looked before the cancer.
I think the movie makes it pretty clear how unknown the disease was, and I think it would have been a challenge to tackle such a complex disease that people hardly know anything about, and I think like you said that was considered high functioning at the time. It was done well in my opinion and avoided being over-the-top, and I liked how they didn't make the original man in custody a villain. It usually comes down to something petty like that, but the movie thankfully avoided that.
Autism was poorly understood at this time. Raymond was by no means a high functioning autistic. High functioning autistics can live independently, and sometimes get high paying jobs. Some of the have families. And yet, they are still different. Raymond is not at the bottom of the spetcrum, but he is certainly not at the top of it.
It is a movie. It's about acceptance. It's about family. It's about sacrifice and guilt. It is not about cars, counting cards, or autism. They are just props.
I’ve been watching a lot of Sisley and Ebert. They are great because it is clear they “care” about film, and are excited to talk about it. They are also open to other people’s opinions. They never fight, even though they clearly disagree. Miss these guys.
"He's a hard driving, high living fly by nighter, who's never paused to care much about other people." in other words, It's just your typical Tom Cruise character.
@@EmileJoulbert A protagnist who has to overcome obstacles and also has a love interest. This trope has been used in stories for hundreds of years. It has nothing to do with Tom Cruise.
Rain Man was the best performance I’ve seen from Tom Cruise. It’s unfortunate that the showy role got all the plaudits. Similarly, around five years later, Tom Hanks wowed the critics for looking more and more ill in Philadelphia, yet it was Denzel Washington who really shone in that film.
Rain Man is a great movie. Dustin Hoffman was perfect in this movie. Cruise is also good. And Siskel and Ebert are the best movie critics of all time. I miss the both together. RIP Siskel. Good bless you Ebert, i pray for you full health back.
This is a great movie. I do not know anything about Autism outside of some articles and the movie Temple Grandin. I do not know how accurately Rain Man portrays Autism. The movie still works for me; it is about two brothers who have to learn to love and accept each other in spite of difficulties with communication and radically different perceptions of reality.
Good lord, it's really something to see how mystifying autism was portrayed as back then. We now know that autism can mean a huge range of things, from "wow, okay, this person processes things very differently" to "oh huh, I just found out I'm autistic; that explains why I didn't have the same learning style as my classmates."
Autism really isn't a disease. I'm not mad or anything, after all this was the 80's and most people really had no idea that autism existed, let alone what to classify it as. I have it, but I don't consider myself diseased. Some things are harder, sure, but I get by fine enough. But still, even the people who are more severely hindered by it I don't consider diseased. It's more about just seeing and feeling the world in a different way.
His actual name was Nick Mazzola and he was an actual dealer. I played at his table at Caesars one time. He was a real nice guy, who even allowed me to take a picture with him. I was very sad to learn on my next trip to Vegas that he passed away of a massive heart attack.
Tom cruise really deserved an oscar as well. I know hoffman had a tough role playing an autistic man but w/o cruises reactions & hoffman to playoff of so well theirs no oscar for him. They say the hardest & best part of acting is reacting. I was most touched by cruises reactions bc I know ray doesnt feel emotions like a typical person does. I think the academy doesnt like to reward young actors or something. Theyll reward a young actress everytime but not a man ( see: cruise pacino & brad pitt for 12 monkeys & dicaprio took 20 years )
Siskel and Ebert put reviewing movies on the map. But they can be very hit or miss on their critiques. They do good on this one but they harshly criticize a lot of good movies too
You are right that autism isn't a disease, but you have to realize that autism was poorly understood when this review came out. So for some people to say that it was a disease in the 1980's wasn't that far fetched.
It's funny how Raymond wouldn't fly because he was afraid of crashing but he rode on Amtrak. I always thought Amtrak was actually the Latin word for train derailment.
The strangest thing I've seen yet is the bizarrely passionate hatred Roger Ebert has inspired. I can only assume that most of the detractors in the comments are former filmmakers whose careers were destroyed because of underperforming box office and thumbs down from Ebert.
Lovely movie, and educational about autism too, so well before its time. It's not fully representative of autism and what these people genuinely suffer in today's world (they are not all 'gentle math geniuses' and have an over-represntation in random violence) but the movie was the first big one to show autism as part of a spectrum.
rain man , to the younger viewer, is just really amusing and interesting to listen to, cause the comedy between cruise and hoffman ,to the younger viewer, is just as amusing as listening to other comedies that have a good warm feeling about the story and has a positive message despite its foul language , if rain man were a feel good odd couple movie on the level of a Rated pg story, much on the same level as a the claire danes tv movie , temple grandin, then the story would be More about thought provoking and more on getting people to laugh at the jokes that these two were doing and less about the foul language
Since 1910, when it was first medically described and named. Here's the first sentence from the wikipedia article on "disease" : "A disease is an abnormal condition that affects the body of an organism"
I disagree with them in the way that they say raymond doesnt change at all i think he does develope some sort of love for charlie, definitely not in the "he's completely normal now" way but i do think he changes... you know what no, i dont think he changes i know he does they are wrong
that they thought that Rainman was unlikable is amazing....maybe lm autistic but Rainman is one of the most likeable characters in movie history...definitely.
It amazes me how this film really portrays a person with autism right down the middle. Someone with severe autism like Raymond will stay in their own head and have no social skills at all.
Something tells me if this movie was made today, there would be hollows of protest about exploiting autism and a bunch of other nonsense when it is a film exploring the wonders of autism.
I'm sure it does, since that's when people were able to easily create multiple accounts. I don't get the old shows thing at all. If you really want to hurt someone's feelings, you should think out your wording enough beforehand that it actually makes sense.
I think that they very neatly understand that the autism is merely a vehicle for the underlying theme to be explored, which is change, and both our inability to or our unwillingness to do it.
01:37 -- Is that the card dealer from Scorcese's _Casino_ too? When Nicky is at the table and he starts being abusive, says "Look at this beauty now" xD
I can't imagine why not. If you wanted to make your alternate account appear to be another person supporting your argument, you shouldn't have left a message with the same wording you used as TheBitchinbabs.
Rain man Ebert? I don't get it. I hope you knew Dunn personally, because you have serious emotional problems if you're still obsessing about that because you were a fan. Personally, I'm just happy that one more drunk driver is off the street. Hitting that tree was better than any stunt Ryan ever did for the show, it's just a shame they didn't record it.
To Jorrietheman: Sounds like you have some real issues with Ebert. Are you a former movie producer who lost his job after Ebert trashed your film? It sounds like there is some bitterness from you.
It's a joke - from Tropic Thunder. About how films with mentally challenged people as leads always show them with some special gift, because otherwise, it's just sad.
And even today, autism is barely understood. I can read the emotions of wild animals easier than I can read the emotions of humans, and wild animals can't show emotion in their face, and people fear me because of that.
Just finished watching this movie. I thought it was Cruise's worst performance I've seen thus far and the movie wasn't really all that good. Me personally I felt that Tom Cruise's acting kind of ruined it. There's no real message.
I liked this movie because it said so much about the chemistry? Neurology? Of the brain (Fuck, I don't know)...But, so it seems, you can have certain areas that are highly developed (Dustin Hoffman's character can instantly calculate extremely complex mathematics in his head) but have zero social skills...Or understand what a kiss means...I'm really good at things (well. O.K.) at things like spelling, or interpreting literature, or history; I am an absolute dumbass at things like, oh, algebra, or working on a car...This was always really embarassing, because, as you could imagine, people generally value fixing a car or solving an algebraic equation over an analysis of poetry...In fact, most people nowadays consider spelling and grammar to be, just goofy wastes of time...We have AutoCorrect!
Called raymond "mentally ill" should know better - at worst autism is a disability, but with some savant/ prodigy characteristics too, its just a different way of being, not something bad.
This movies portrail of Autism now seems dated. This guy is NOT a high functioning autistic. High functiong autistics somtimes get degrees, start buisnesses, invent things. They didn't know that back then, because such people were not considered autistic, just eccentric, or difficult, or people thought they were faking it, back then (not very long ago, really.)
John Greene Tom Cruise certainly is not the calibre of actor Dustin Hoffman is, but he was far from one dimensional in this movie. Cruise did a good job.
Autism is a disease. Excuse me, I think not. I have autism, Asperger's Syndrome. It's a birth deficiency. Me and people like me, we are not less, just different from the way most other people think and act. A disease you say... -_-
Rachel DeRosier I have to agree. I am also autistic with Asperger's. When Roger Ebert said autism was a disease, I was like "Autism is not a disease." I was very surprised to hear that.
I have Asperger's as well, but give them some leeway. Autism was poorly understood in 1988. Having some people think of it as a disease back then wasn't too uncommon.
Personally for me I thought Hoffman was very good but cruise was even better.i think he didn't get enough praise at the time for this.he was brilliant and it was through his performance that Hoffman came across with a better performance. Cruise should at least been nominated for an Oscar in my opinion.
Eddie Campion Yeah, at the time Cruise wasn't taken seriously as an actor yet. The next year, he got a nod for Born on the Fourth of July and you see that he could move on beyond the pretty boy look.
The reason Cruise didn't get nominated is probably because they didn't want to nominate two people in the same category from the same movie. But he certainly deserved it.
amanda davis Well, that could be true. Another Dustin Hoffman movie, Midnight Cowboy, had 2 actors up for Best Actor. The real difference here is that Cruise wasn’t getting any respect from the Academy at the time. Hoffman was “the actor” and Cruise was “the movie star.” The truth is that both deserved a nomination because there wasn’t a female lead: They were the “co-stars.” Another movie that had the same problem was Ordinary People, but in that case, they submitted Donald Sutherland under the Best Actor category, and Timothy Hutton under the Best Supporting Actor category even though Timothy Hutton was clearly the “star” of the movie.
Let me just say that Dustin Hoffman’s performance is 1000% accurate. The “I’m an excellent driver” line that reoccurs in the most random places of conversation always makes me tear up, coz it’s exactly what my younger brother is like. I love this movie, one of the reasons being coz it’s like watching me and my brother
He did the research too. Dustin hoffman to prepare for the role, lived with many autistic people. I will say the people are just different. Maybe many don't understand that, but god made them different and that is good. A Little difference matters in the world, even if people don't understand that.
Yeah, same here man. A very emotional movie.
Siskel and Ebert were incredible, miss them a lot
These guys were spot on. Excellent commentary on ‘one character who can’t change, and the other who doesn’t want to change’. Wish these guys were still alive doing this sort of show.
3:13 Oh, 1988. 😄 Siskel is so adorable thinking Hoffmans role was thankless, and only a few high caliber actors would do it. Then he won the Oscar, and every actor pushed to the front of the line for mental disability roles. It went from groundbreaking to cliche in 5 years.
Ugh... remember Cuba Gooding Jr's 'Radio.' Or Sean Penn in 'I Am Sam.' What cynical Oscar bait.... bleh.
@@andrewcutler1380 In a scene in the Score, Edward Norton revealed how easy it is for a competent actor to play disability. Maybe it's a coincidence, or maybe because the Other Sister, Nell, and other unwatchable performances turned it into an embarrassing cliche, but both I Am Sam and Radio came out after all that, and the codgers on academy didn't fall for it so easily anymore. By then, the awards switched to awarding noteworthy actors who played gay.
@@75aces97 yeah, what's next? Playing a helicopter?
@@andrewcutler1380
Daniel Day Lewis in “my left foot” as well
Pacino did Scent of a Woman of course but I think he’s in Hoffman’s class and would’ve done it anyway...
I miss watching Siskel and Ebert. Their banter back and forth was just plain fun to watch. Rain Man is easily in my top 10 favorite movies of all time.
zestydude87 Me too! This is why I am watching clips from 20 years ago of movies I have seen. 🙄
I was saddened when I heard Gene died in 1999.
I liked Roger better at this time with these glasses and how his voice sounded and face looked before the cancer.
Same here Hoffman did a great job
One of my favorite movies of all time, it's such a quiet and underrated masterpiece.
Yeah, I definitely miss these guys. I used to stay up late to watch them every Saturday night.
I think the movie makes it pretty clear how unknown the disease was, and I think it would have been a challenge to tackle such a complex disease that people hardly know anything about, and I think like you said that was considered high functioning at the time. It was done well in my opinion and avoided being over-the-top, and I liked how they didn't make the original man in custody a villain. It usually comes down to something petty like that, but the movie thankfully avoided that.
Thing is, Autism is not a disease. It's a neurological and developmental disorder.
One of my favorite movies of all time. I own the DVD and the director's commentary is superb, highly recommended!!
Cruise should have won the Oscar for playing Charlie Babbitt perfectly
Amazing movie . Hoffman is great . That Italian chick is smoking hot.
+Charles Ringey Valeria Golino.
Smoking Hot! That accent she has
thelordmemnoch she is smoking hot
Hot as hell.
@@lizaestevez6928 She's half-Greek.
Autism was poorly understood at this time. Raymond was by no means a high functioning autistic. High functioning autistics can live independently, and sometimes get high paying jobs. Some of the have families. And yet, they are still different.
Raymond is not at the bottom of the spetcrum, but he is certainly not at the top of it.
Well, then, WHERE IS HE??
to be fair, outside of that, the film has aged well imo, a lot of the symptoms explored are very true and apparent in both high and low functioning.
It is a movie. It's about acceptance. It's about family. It's about sacrifice and guilt.
It is not about cars, counting cards, or autism. They are just props.
The real Rain Man? He died.
It's NOT just a fucking movie. Look up the real one online--Kim Peek.
I’ve been watching a lot of Sisley and Ebert. They are great because it is clear they “care” about film, and are excited to talk about it. They are also open to other people’s opinions. They never fight, even though they clearly disagree. Miss these guys.
Roberto ... If you liked Sisley and Ebert, I guarantee you will LOVE Siskel and Ebert too!!!.
@@sas6561 Love those Eberly brothers.
@Roberto Sanchez - "Sisley and Ebert" is it?!? Do you have "sissies" on your mind much in daily life, too??
"He's a hard driving, high living fly by nighter, who's never paused to care much about other people." in other words, It's just your typical Tom Cruise character.
Rain Man and what else? When did he ever play such character?
Throw in daddy issues and yes, this sounds a lot like a Tom Cruise character. 😄
You should check out Rich Hall's stand-up routine on Tom Cruise movies.
@@EmileJoulbert A protagnist who has to overcome obstacles and also has a love interest. This trope has been used in stories for hundreds of years. It has nothing to do with Tom Cruise.
Or just Tom Cruise.
Dustin won the Oscar. Well deserved.
Rain Man was the best performance I’ve seen from Tom Cruise. It’s unfortunate that the showy role got all the plaudits.
Similarly, around five years later, Tom Hanks wowed the critics for looking more and more ill in Philadelphia, yet it was Denzel Washington who really shone in that film.
funny how in the final 10 seconds they're basically talking about their own relationship on the show.
Haha but which one can't change and which one doesn't want to change?
This is a delightful-as-fuck movie. Both dudes gave it 3.5/4 stars, it should be 4/4
That's YOUR opinion. They were paid for THEIRS.
My review "This was one of the best movies of the 1980's!!"
Cruise has the more impressive performance of the two really. It's his best work.
Rain Man was based off of a real life savant named Kim Peek, who coincidentally bears a resemblance to Roger Ebert.
Rain Man is a great movie. Dustin Hoffman was perfect in this movie. Cruise is also good. And Siskel and Ebert are the best movie critics of all time. I miss the both together.
RIP Siskel.
Good bless you Ebert, i pray for you full health back.
Cruise's best performance.
incredible review and great video of one of my favourite movies
This is a great movie. I do not know anything about Autism outside of some articles and the movie Temple Grandin. I do not know how accurately Rain Man portrays Autism. The movie still works for me; it is about two brothers who have to learn to love and accept each other in spite of difficulties with communication and radically different perceptions of reality.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/HighFunctioningAutism
Wonderful movie. Cruise and Hoffman were both excellent.
Good lord, it's really something to see how mystifying autism was portrayed as back then. We now know that autism can mean a huge range of things, from "wow, okay, this person processes things very differently" to "oh huh, I just found out I'm autistic; that explains why I didn't have the same learning style as my classmates."
Autism really isn't a disease. I'm not mad or anything, after all this was the 80's and most people really had no idea that autism existed, let alone what to classify it as. I have it, but I don't consider myself diseased. Some things are harder, sure, but I get by fine enough. But still, even the people who are more severely hindered by it I don't consider diseased. It's more about just seeing and feeling the world in a different way.
This is an incredible movie
That's Anthony from Casino at the time this film was made he was a real black jack dealer.
His actual name was Nick Mazzola and he was an actual dealer. I played at his table at Caesars one time. He was a real nice guy, who even allowed me to take a picture with him. I was very sad to learn on my next trip to Vegas that he passed away of a massive heart attack.
He was in vegas vacation and casino
I love how they broke this one down
Tom cruise really deserved an oscar as well. I know hoffman had a tough role playing an autistic man but w/o cruises reactions & hoffman to playoff of so well theirs no oscar for him. They say the hardest & best part of acting is reacting. I was most touched by cruises reactions bc I know ray doesnt feel emotions like a typical person does. I think the academy doesnt like to reward young actors or something. Theyll reward a young actress everytime but not a man ( see: cruise pacino & brad pitt for 12 monkeys & dicaprio took 20 years )
Siskel and Ebert put reviewing movies on the map. But they can be very hit or miss on their critiques. They do good on this one but they harshly criticize a lot of good movies too
That's the sequel right there!...Rainman get hit on the head....by a baseball?...at a game he is with Charlie...& high jinks ensue...Rainman 2
Autism is not a disease but I'm happy of the positive response Siskel and Ebert gave
You are right that autism isn't a disease, but you have to realize that autism was poorly understood when this review came out. So for some people to say that it was a disease in the 1980's wasn't that far fetched.
@@brianb.8295 I know that. I have Asperger's syndrome.
It's funny how Raymond wouldn't fly because he was afraid of crashing but he rode on Amtrak. I always thought Amtrak was actually the Latin word for train derailment.
I think the word your look for is ex-trackus
The strangest thing I've seen yet is the bizarrely passionate hatred Roger Ebert has inspired. I can only assume that most of the detractors in the comments are former filmmakers whose careers were destroyed because of underperforming box office and thumbs down from Ebert.
I don`t think any director`s career crashed because of Siskel or Ebert..but they did help boost some directors
Jackass fans go after him over something he said about a guy from those movies.
It is rare to hear anyone laud Cruise in this role. He was exceptional. Any reasonably good actor could have carried the Hoffman character.
you cant be serious?
Lovely movie, and educational about autism too, so well before its time. It's not fully representative of autism and what these people genuinely suffer in today's world (they are not all 'gentle math geniuses' and have an over-represntation in random violence) but the movie was the first big one to show autism as part of a spectrum.
Cool movie ... That was Tom cruise time .. He was in his prime... Man! Those days r gone .. Hope he enjoyed it!😎
rain man , to the younger viewer, is just really amusing and interesting to listen to, cause the comedy between cruise and hoffman ,to the younger viewer, is just as amusing as listening to other comedies that have a good warm feeling about the story and has a positive message despite its foul language , if rain man were a feel good odd couple movie on the level of a Rated pg story, much on the same level as a the claire danes tv movie , temple grandin, then the story would be More about thought provoking and more on getting people to laugh at the jokes that these two were doing and less about the foul language
@Aaron Johnson - Did public school ever teach you to use "periods?"
Tom Cruise is excellent in Rain Man
isaachaze1, TheBitchinbabs, shabs2011, Jorrietheman, gottfriedthegod are all the same person obsessed with Ebert. This is scary.
Since 1910, when it was first medically described and named.
Here's the first sentence from the wikipedia article on "disease" : "A disease is an abnormal condition that affects the body of an organism"
I disagree with them in the way that they say raymond doesnt change at all i think he does develope some sort of love for charlie, definitely not in the "he's completely normal now" way but i do think he changes... you know what no, i dont think he changes i know he does they are wrong
that they thought that Rainman was unlikable is amazing....maybe lm autistic but Rainman is one of the most likeable characters in movie history...definitely.
Wow! Rain Man says to double-down when you have 10 and the dealer shows a 4. I'm gonna go break Vegas.
This back and fourth beats rotten tomatoes 100-1.
RIP Siskel and Ebert
It amazes me how this film really portrays a person with autism right down the middle. Someone with severe autism like Raymond will stay in their own head and have no social skills at all.
Something tells me if this movie was made today, there would be hollows of protest about exploiting autism and a bunch of other nonsense when it is a film exploring the wonders of autism.
Great film that went on to win a bunch of Oscars. I was surprised that it did.
I'm sure it does, since that's when people were able to easily create multiple accounts. I don't get the old shows thing at all. If you really want to hurt someone's feelings, you should think out your wording enough beforehand that it actually makes sense.
That’s the same dealer that was in casino
The dealer was also a dealer in Casino. Concidence?
Go home and get your shine box
As an autistic person, I laughed when Ebert called autism a "disease".
This was 1988, back then people's understanding of Autism wasn't the way it was today unfortunetly.
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I think that they very neatly understand that the autism is merely a vehicle for the underlying theme to be explored, which is change, and both our inability to or our unwillingness to do it.
01:37 -- Is that the card dealer from Scorcese's _Casino_ too? When Nicky is at the table and he starts being abusive, says "Look at this beauty now" xD
I think you're right, and he's a real life Vegas blackjack dealer.
sadly probably Hoffman's last great performance
I can't stop listening for when they breathe
"Soft hearted disease of the week" movie. Hahah
Classic movie..
How times change...
@Hellzyead Fluff? It was something more than fluff. BTW, "Hotaru no haka" would never win best picture in America. Put some thought into that.
i bet Ebert can relate more with Rain Man now than ever before ...
@disengagejam - 1. who are you betting with?!? 2. Have NO IDEA what your comment relates to!
Wrong. But you are a James Holmes in Aurora Colorado...in a fantasy world of Hollywood
I can't imagine why not. If you wanted to make your alternate account appear to be another person supporting your argument, you shouldn't have left a message with the same wording you used as TheBitchinbabs.
Great job and good luck
"Hamburger, Hamburger, Hamburger Ray!!"
they were gonna originally call this movie "Snow Man" but went with the rain
Iceman was already taken.
Sleetman has been in development hell since the mid-early-late Thousands
Hoffman played it smart, sober. Simple Jack, in comparison, was too sentimental and got snubbed at the Oscars.
A great movie but, sadly, it was the last time Dustin Hoffman did a good acting job.
*cough* Captain Hook *cough* He was Captain Hook *cough*
He was great in Sleepers
I really really really hated "Hook"
Rain man Ebert? I don't get it. I hope you knew Dunn personally, because you have serious emotional problems if you're still obsessing about that because you were a fan. Personally, I'm just happy that one more drunk driver is off the street. Hitting that tree was better than any stunt Ryan ever did for the show, it's just a shame they didn't record it.
good film
I thought Cruise was better than Hoffman here.
To Jorrietheman: Sounds like you have some real issues with Ebert. Are you a former movie producer who lost his job after Ebert trashed your film? It sounds like there is some bitterness from you.
It's a joke - from Tropic Thunder. About how films with mentally challenged people as leads always show them with some special gift, because otherwise, it's just sad.
And even today, autism is barely understood. I can read the emotions of wild animals easier than I can read the emotions of humans, and wild animals can't show emotion in their face, and people fear me because of that.
Change? Change!? Change?? Change?
Just finished watching this movie. I thought it was Cruise's worst performance I've seen thus far and the movie wasn't really all that good. Me personally I felt that Tom Cruise's acting kind of ruined it. There's no real message.
"K-mart sucks"
I liked this movie because it said so much about the chemistry? Neurology? Of the brain (Fuck, I don't know)...But, so it seems, you can have certain areas that are highly developed (Dustin Hoffman's character can instantly calculate extremely complex mathematics in his head) but have zero social skills...Or understand what a kiss means...I'm really good at things (well. O.K.) at things like spelling, or interpreting literature, or history; I am an absolute dumbass at things like, oh, algebra, or working on a car...This was always really embarassing, because, as you could imagine, people generally value fixing a car or solving an algebraic equation over an analysis of poetry...In fact, most people nowadays consider spelling and grammar to be, just goofy wastes of time...We have AutoCorrect!
@Hellzyead Not even buddy.....
He’s a savant which I doubt these guys understood
0:19 "Disease" of Autism, ya say? 🤨
Why
Called raymond "mentally ill" should know better - at worst autism is a disability, but with some savant/ prodigy characteristics too, its just a different way of being, not something bad.
that sad insult didn't even make sense
This movies portrail of Autism now seems dated. This guy is NOT a high functioning autistic. High functiong autistics somtimes get degrees, start buisnesses, invent things. They didn't know that back then, because such people were not considered autistic, just eccentric, or difficult, or people thought they were faking it, back then (not very long ago, really.)
I still cannot buy the fact they are brothers - among other issues I have with the movie - It was okay - Hoffman was Great, but that is about it
A great movie despite Tom Cruise playing another one dimensional Tom Cruise role. Hoffman is great and earned the Oscar.
huh???... cruise was fantastic in this film
John Greene Tom Cruise certainly is not the calibre of actor Dustin Hoffman is, but he was far from one dimensional in this movie. Cruise did a good job.
Seemed like Tom Cruise being Tom Cruise but it worked for me.
I swear , if it wasn't for his scientology bullshit that people wouldn't be so hard on Cruise, it's like they can't get past the petty personal BS
I like Tom Cruise in this one actually and I usually don't.
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Ebert and his fanboys can't get me wet
anybody could have played the Dustin Hoffman role, what a bore
OMG, Ebert is a beast only exceeded by its nerdy fanboys! It rotted while alive LOL Oh, Roger direct your fanboys on style and taste!
You went on here to post a bunch of negative comments about Ebert.
You even used other screen names to post more comments!!! Get a job, loser.
ya sure....and you're an adult also huh lol
Autism is a disease. Excuse me, I think not. I have autism, Asperger's Syndrome. It's a birth deficiency. Me and people like me, we are not less, just different from the way most other people think and act. A disease you say... -_-
Rachel DeRosier I have to agree. I am also autistic with Asperger's. When Roger Ebert said autism was a disease, I was like "Autism is not a disease." I was very surprised to hear that.
Give them some levway, this was one of the first ASD charcters in fiction
This review was made in the 90s if I recall correctly. Back then most people didnt know much about autism
+Cool Close...it was 1988.
I have Asperger's as well, but give them some leeway. Autism was poorly understood in 1988. Having some people think of it as a disease back then wasn't too uncommon.
This movie was way over-praised and was not the Best Picture of the year
kaejae24 this movie is incredible and it deserved all four Oscars! Dustin Hoffman finest work.
Why didn’t it deserve best picture?
Song at 2:00??
Personally for me I thought Hoffman was very good but cruise was even better.i think he didn't get enough praise at the time for this.he was brilliant and it was through his performance that Hoffman came across with a better performance. Cruise should at least been nominated for an Oscar in my opinion.
Eddie Campion Yeah, at the time Cruise wasn't taken seriously as an actor yet. The next year, he got a nod for Born on the Fourth of July and you see that he could move on beyond the pretty boy look.
The reason Cruise didn't get nominated is probably because they didn't want to nominate two people in the same category from the same movie. But he certainly deserved it.
Agree. Cruise had the harder role, and he nailed it.
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amanda davis Well, that could be true. Another Dustin Hoffman movie, Midnight Cowboy, had 2 actors up for Best Actor. The real difference here is that Cruise wasn’t getting any respect from the Academy at the time. Hoffman was “the actor” and Cruise was “the movie star.” The truth is that both deserved a nomination because there wasn’t a female lead: They were the “co-stars.” Another movie that had the same problem was Ordinary People, but in that case, they submitted Donald Sutherland under the Best Actor category, and Timothy Hutton under the Best Supporting Actor category even though Timothy Hutton was clearly the “star” of the movie.
Rain Man really is a sweet story, Dustin Hoffman is kind-hearted and I can connect with his characer