Switching Demystified by Lehle Pedals - It doesn't have to be rocket science!
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👆 In this video, Lee checks out Lehle Pedals! These incredible switching products offer amazing signal-routing solutions for your rig: goo.gl/xXuovm
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Yes please! Talk about any new products or anything that wasn’t discussed here. Your products are incredible and this video was so helpful and informative.
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I would like you to make a video explaining the functions on the Little Dual 2, I've just got one and I'm trying to figure out if one of the outputs is or can be used as a DI out.
Absolutely
Heck-yeah! I am setting up my first two-amp rig, and this was so helpful.
USA: We make stomp boxes, you stomp on them
UK: We make pedals, they are, generally and calmly, operated by feet.
Germany: We make signal switching solutions. They solve.
I'm an electrical engineer, I feel the pain of this guy trying to explain this stuff to the Capt, so hard to explain in laymen's terms what's going on!
Thanks Mark Bennett. /Joki
If he had had an engineer as the person he was trying to explain the functions to, this would have been quite a different conversation:
(this refers to the content given from 0:00 to about 8:00, so the P-split)
- a transformer is not made from a magnet and wires but from a material of high permeability and wires (not magnetic core). Plus the required shielding, of course (MU-metal)
- you do not have to have two amps to get a ground loop. It is perfectly sufficient to use a crappy grounded power supply for your pedals. (he touched that one, granted)
- "it is not about the level, it is about the impedance". Yeah and this is why this thing (P-split) cannot change the impedance since it is a passive device. It is basically a 1:1 DI box.
"And because there is a transformer, the output impedance is not given by the interface". In fact, it is. The output impedance that is feeding the amp is the same impedance that the audio interface provides. All the p-split can do is prevent hum issues.
Don't get me wrong: Lehle products rock! I have recommended their products multiple times in the past and NEVER had a problem with them, but explaining stuff technically inaccurately or wrong because the person you are talking to does not have a clue about electronic engineering might make the company look less professional than they actually are.
I don't have a problem with Lee not having a technical appreciation of impedance issues and the impact on signal loss, but I was a little surprised that he was so cheerfully haughty in his ignorance.
That's why engineers suck at consulting :)
I appreciate that you didnt just try to flatter him the whole time, but were honest about your skepticisim of the whole buffer/boost fad going on. You gave him a chance to defend its relevance, but still maintained your own opinion. Respect
I think lehle needs to make their usage descriptions more clear on their website. In only a few minutes of video you've managed to explain exactly which products would solve the issues I have (which the website didn't). Excellent video!
Lehle, got me on my knees...
I really didn't expect a 3/4 hour long video about switching boxes to be this awesome!
much needed video, this one, thank you for making it, answers many questions where the answers are not obvious without having a lehle box present
Very useful video, a lot of the stuff here you would never figure out from looking at the Lehle manual. Super high-quality device
A really interesting video. No disrespect to Captain, but it illustrates how impedance (as opposed to resistance) is largely misunderstood. The thing about impedance is that it is an active combination of resistance and reactance in whatever circuit the signal is exposed to. I use the phrase 'exposed to' because "passes through' indicates a lack of influence in a circuit. It also indicates the sheer quality of thought put to use in Lehla's products. Hats off to them!
Capt has been watching That Pedal Show
Randy Willcox Depends on what your buffering. But the Capt. looked confused for awhile, or was just confusing this guy trying to explain his gear.
Randy Willcox Yes. Sorry, I meant to infer agreeing with you. Do you use a buffer? What kind? I'm curious and been looking into it for my rig.
Sean Ellis Nice. This is the way I've been thinking about doing it. Thanks.
Excellent info needed and given this episode with Lehle 👍
One of best, useful in many situations. Thank You
I like this man's laugh.
Getting a Dual Sgos next week too. I have every reason to believe it'll be great.
Lehle is simply the best ... best volume pedal on the market and amazing quality
love the 'V' pronunciation..... should have done this show with a Gibson Flying 'Wee'
I used to go to a pub where it seems that wee was flying everywhere. Wouldn't want that on a guitar.
truly shocked how much of a difference I could hear with the true bypass/buffer demo.
Useful info, thank you both. And Pete for the last word...
the only thing I couldn't find was a stereo effects loop in parallel. would love this for my triaxis.
Can you guys update this video? All these products are discontinued on Lehle's website. I would love to know more about their replacements. Thanks and as an old engineer taking up the guitar in his 50's your videos are very informative.
I'll be buying one of those volume pedals. I've already got a P Split on the way... God damn you Lee.
the only downside of Lehle stuff is that because of the stylish look it is had to see how robust and well built they are ... i just love lehle. I had sooooo many volume pedals and when i decided to use lehle it was a revelation. Nothing EVER broke, the ramp is perfect, it takes many different volts polarity also doesn't matter ... you can boost the output ... it's just amazing
can i use 12v in lehle?
Hello, I am having trouble with the green pedal (I have the blue version though), If anyone out there can help me troubleshoot it. When I try to have both channels A and B activated/on, Channel B is a lot more muted... I have my keys in A and guitar in B and would love to have them work at the same level/powers as each other for recording/improvisation. If anyone has insight that would be great. Thanks!
What strat is that?
Love it.
Does the SGos or little dual require external power source?
Voltage in german is 'Spannung' so no v there, we do however pronounce the v in 'Volt' more like a w, whereas in the words he mentioned it is more like an f.
Hi everyone, sorry I don't speak English well and I need help, I have to switch two heads on a single case Speacker ..;
- Which pedal do I need?
I have a looper A / B; but
- The signal of the final amplifier is different from the guitar / effects signal, isn't it?
- here a common loop / switch can be fine to manage (alternate) the signal between the header/amplifier and the speaker case !??
Ciao e Grazie!
Key S.
What power supply do you use with the Lehle SGos pedals?
In Norway, we encounter the same issue of pronouncing 'V' like 'W.' This tendency stems from the infrequent use of the letter 'W' in our language, leading many of us to interchange 'V' and 'W' when speaking English ;)
🤝
very nice utility boxes
The thing with buffers is not explained in a practical way here. Here is why you need a Buffer at the very beginning of your (true bypass) signal chain IF YOU ARE USING ANY OTHER ACTIVE DEVICES, OTHER THAN YOUR AMP:
If you use a fully true bypass chain, that DOES NOT MEAN that there are no Buffers! Thats the thing!
It just means that WHEN YOUR EFFECTS ARE BYPASSED, your signal is not buffered. But as soon as you turn one of your Effects on, it will automatically apply some sort of buffer to the signal (there is exceptions, but the majority does), since it needs it for it's operation. And all of a sudden, you have a buffered signal! As we have heard in this video, the difference is quit noticeable. That is the point. You can not avoid buffers anyways, so it is best to put them right at the start, since turning true bypass effects on and of makes no unwanted difference anymore.
Guys, pardon me if this is a stupid question:
But do i have to drill holes into my pedal board to mount the P-Split?
It seems the 4 black screws on the top wont allow for velcro on the top. And the 4 raised feet under the P Split also dont allow velcro on the bottom
I'll like to get 2 to mount under my pedalboard for a 3 amp rig.
Please advise.
Thank you! : )
Maybe you already read the manual. If not: the Lehle products are supplied with screws. You need to uncover the unit, then you can screw them down internally.
I actually have a Sunday Driver, and it definitely helps with tone -- especially when long cable runs are needed. My problem, though, is I have 14 different pedals that I've been told must be the first pedal in my signal chain to sound right. In addition to the Sunday Driver, I have a BK Butler tube driver, that is supposed to sound best accepting a pure unbuffered guitar signal. Then there's the Cry-Baby Wah ... same thing. Then there's my OD pedal, same thing. There is only one cable coming from my guitar. So do I follow the advice here and hit the SD Buffer first and then deliver a buffered signal to these other pedals (against other advice that they get an unbuffered signal), or do I run those pedals in front of the Sunday Driver against the advice here??!!! I currently do the latter, but this guy seems to suggest that my SD is not doing anything in that case but acting as a clean boost in that scenario. But that's the decision I made as a matter of the pure "ear test."
I love the attention to the language barrier. I am also a happy Lehle Volume Pedal user.
Is there a product to help with interference from a wall socket? Would the p split solve this? One amp
It will fix ground loops that happen when you have more than 1 thing connected to the mains in your signal line.
If you have pedals powered by adapter, place one of these between the last pedal and the amp input. Or place a stereo one for the fx loop in and out. Try to use it on short cable runs as you're disconnecting the shielding/earth at one end.
Also try to remove any EMI emitting devices or shield them. Things like phones, wall warts, computers, cfl bulbs etc.
we must celebrate the german accent in spoken english, life would be so drab without it. laughed alot throughout this interview thanks!
so what? the p split is a buffer or a direct box? i still don’t get it..
i cant wait to get my lehle 3 switcher
Love this video and i learned a new word too.. The pedals are brilliant. I like the way the Captain says things. I too am not a fan of optical tech.
The box containing these things better say "Lehle Schaltkreisvermittlunglösungen"
"I do not understand this question"
LOL
Where the heck did the 21st fret inlay go?
Haha that Lofi distortion in the intro XD
Lee, you just can't help yourself. Lol that humour with the v n w n f at the end was funny. Seemed like a good guy, products are top
Don't know why, but I get unreasonably excited by signal routing. Takes all sorts, I suppose.
I just spent 42:48 minutes watching this video and I didn't understand a single thing about these pedals. I just know the volume pedals and the Sunday driver sound great, but I have no clue how they do it. So they are buffered, but can be true bypass? So confusing
My grandpa and grandma had these wood blocks that were basically the same color as these pedals. Love the simple design and color.
Galvanic isolation...Yes that's what transformers do :D
Sorry but I had to laugh when you "realized what you were doing" LOLOLOLOL
37:53: 'Zhe pedal' < Captain, lol
Lehle is the best - period
So p split on works for 2 amps, what about one amp?
And yet again Pete got the last word :-D
Isn't lifting the ground dangerous? because I do remember getting shocked a few times because of some wonky grounding issues.
Aice the Fries oh cool! now it makes sense.
Aice the Fries I thought lifting the ground gives everything 1 ground and less noise and the noise come from have multiple grounds.
as long as you're using a ground lift switch, rather than cutting the ground prong off the amp plug....
"Cut off the earth pin in your pedal, have a beer and touch your lips to the microphone"
-Mick Taylor on what not to do.
Switching Demystified ? Captain, Oh my Captain you could confobulate anything.
I live in Arizona so it looks like if I order some of these I won't have them until like forever.....😥😥😥
If your losing treble turn up the treble knob on your amp. Thats my tip of the day.
Snooze00 Good tip for boosting noise in the treble region. Noise is great.
Who was Pete's friend though?
Neeeeerd!
it has a transformer but not active?
A transformer is a completely passive element.
emptyMan0 okay thank you for that :D
Hey Cap!
Transformers. More than meets the eye.
At least Lee didn't mention the war !
If you notice p split you should see a doctor. And their Volume ist the best, tried out several and ended up right there.
OK, I think I get it...to sound right, you must buffer your muffin, but not your Big Muff...?
Pete just had to have the last V word eh?
I don’t understand why amp manufacturers don’t just put the p-split equivalent input on their amps...
coz vintage
I agree with the captain. Buffers vs true bypass isn't really an objective thing, it's subjective as to what sort of sound you like. Some buffers in some pedals increase the high end, some suck it out (e.g. cry baby wah), so it really depends on what sound you're going for as to whether you use buffers (whether that be in a pedal or just a stand alone buffer)
And sometimes it makes certain pedals do terrible awful things!
Big Muffs sound absolutely horrible if you put a buffer in front of them.
why is the captain doing all the talking instead of the person who makes the pedal?
_tickle the preamp_
GERMAN ENGEERING EVERYBODY ---- LOVE LOVE LOVE
there's no way to explain phasing with it not looking dirty
But that's not a problem, isn't it?
MC Runde nah
what'S a face switch? ahhh...a phase switch. I felt stupid when I first misunderstood him.
16th?
Masseschleife (=ground loop/earth hum)
This was like pulling teeth - so tedious!
Thank you Lee for the "bullshit" comment. Very refreshing and true statement about the original creators situation. USE YOUR EARS! Find your sound.
Wery nice!0
You are wery felcome! /Joki
No resistance in your Vah? You have no precision in your limbvs Lee :) A good best effort to explain a complex electronic issue. In reality the trick is suck it and see...
But how do magnets work? Magic.
honestly, that explanation makes enough sense. the full one takes waaay too long.
207th!
My dear deutsche Landsleute. Please learn the difference between the soft and sharp s-sounds. It's a phase switch, not a face switch.
Dirty Pete lol
sup
Is this another Despicable Me movie?
I own several Lehle devices, and while the devices work great, the explanations of how they can be creatively used, is a marketing disaster. For example, on the D-Loop, the documentation does not ever say if the Buffer function comes before or after the loops. For example there is no example of how to configure it to hook up a fuzz-face pedal. Basically, the products are superb quality, but the user has to figure out how the hell to use them, despite the instructions. It escapes me how Lehle fails to exploit the fact that their products afford a way to switch signal routing without song-specific programming, which is the actual scourge of most programmable switchers.
You might have missed it:
Manual, first page, "General description", point 1: "When the buffer and both loops are on, the signal firstly passes through the buffer, then through Loop A and, finally, through Loop B."
Have you ever been in contact with us or just wrote here?
Pete speaks Latin ?
who doesn't ?
Lol Lee bit out of your depth here me thinks!! 😄
Lehle suffers because people do not understand their products.
lily
Notice me senpai
funny how the capt knows that true bypass is kinda dumb, yet he buys into the marketing hype of tonewoods
Yeah, Wadsmitter is right. It's not 'dumb,' but the idea that it is best to always have true bypass or buffers are bad, or whatever. All that is nonsense because, well, tone/music/sound is relative. But, as Wadsmitter has stated, there are practical benefits of it. Germanium lyf.