DUDE you just saved me..I replaced my chain on an tourney RD...and I did that thing with the chain running under that plate! no wonder I could not back pedal and it felt really harsh riding on the big cog up front. lol, thanks!!
I reuse my quicklinks a lot since years, all of those are "non reusable" ones . Sometimes I i open and close them daily because i wash my chain off the bike. Never had any problem with them. Dont throw everything into the garbage after one instance of use. Only if it is worn with the chain together
@@rcs2003 can relate, i live close to the sea so no matter what my chain is always dirty em rusty, i clean it one day and in the next it is already dirty :c
This was such a huge help. I routed my chain incorrectly in the rear derailleur and was struggling a lot to find a way to fix it without removing the chain. Don't know how I never thought of the pulley wheel idea though 😂 anyway, I'm all sorted out!! Thank you very much!!
Jeez, I’ve been breaking chains for years without using a master link and had only one failure! Well after watching this video I learned some new things and will need to have a spare master link for each bike. I use simple green to clean my chains while on the bike, blow them dry with compressed air, lubricate the chain with a “wet lube” and then wipe dry. I do this on my year round fat bike commuter (through the winter crud) have 3500 miles on the chain and it still works great! Great video! Thank You!
My chain cleaning trick: a shaker jar and gasoline. Works like a charm. Air dry and lube the chain well. Next cleaning, use a different shaker jar, and transfer the gasoline over without disturbing the sediment. Then clean the jar. One shaker jar of gasoline lasts several months. Just use caution storing the used gasoline. And lastly, I’ve used the same master link for years, to include a ride across the country with no issues, but I always carry a spare.
Yup, I routed the chain wrong between those 2 back pulleys, grinding sound but shifting was fine, then I saw your video. I split the quick link and rerouted the chain, no more grinding. Thanks for your help, your videos are the best.
@@cshigley And it's amazing how well it works, shifts perfectly, but that little grinding noise that I thought would eventually resolve by itself. However, with the chain properly routed it's totally smooth and noiseless.
yeah I learned the hard way, bolt came loose, and the cage went into the rear wheel taking the wheel with it! The cage was all bent into the cassette too
Good video - I've done 2 of the mistakes. 3 if you count that I never wash or dry my winter commuting bike. The most frustrating mistake is the upside-down eagle link which is only an issue when on the 11t cog. The chain is kicked off the cog when the link hits the lock-ring. I spent an hour troubleshooting the derailleur only to realize I was a moron.
I always try to clean chain, rear cogs, pulleys and crankset after each ride. Then lube it all with some good wet chain oil, leaving it for set up a couple of hours, finally wipe off excess lube on the chain before next ride. Never leave drive train dirty or wet overnight as you recommend. Really nice tips here! Congrats.
Yes, a chain will look like that after a couple days of being wet, when the thing isn't oiled like it should be. But I've revived even the rustiest bike chains simply by oiling them and running them normally, even seized bike chains are still good. I've never had issues using even the worst, pitted bike chain, not even with breakage, and I was certainly rough with bikes when I was younger.
Thanks, like many commentors, I re-use my quick link. I cannot imagine the means of failure as the pin is tensioned in to the narrow part of the link. I do however carry a new quick link at all times. Reckon I can repair a broken chain faster than a puncture. Only had a few chain breaks, I am a heavy guy, they break when you are standing up, the crossbar breaks your fall and your balls, so you tend to remember chain breaks.
I tried for the first couple of years with my latest bike (I have only owned and ridden a single bike at a time)... to keep it clean and shiny all the time, immaculate. I obsessed over the chain to the point of cleaning it during rides. This is all while averaging over 7K miles a year, 20 to 120 mile rides year around. That means for me, living in the Pacific Northwest, 4 to 6 months of riding in the rain and on muddy wet surfaces. I have a Rohloff Speedhub mounted on a full-suspension touring bike coupled to a BBSHD mid-drive and it's amazing. It's broken me to ever owning another bike without a Rohloff. The mid-drive and the Speedhub are made for each other, they go together like lamb and tuna fish. @ The 1st year I rode I changed the chain 8 times... whenever it got to 0.5% wear as tested with a Park tool. After another 25K miles and 4 years riding I now wipe the chain clean daily and swap my chains every 6 months. Drop the chain, flip or replace the Rohloff gear, mount a new chain, and ride. Always having a straight chain line makes it amazingly easy to maintain. 11 Jul 19 - 71 miles w/front panniers & trailer on less than 15Ah... 1/2 the packs capacity. www.relive.cc/view/g37290970278 photos.app.goo.gl/RD1NrDPCZQuHpWja9 For anyone that thinks they can really clean the chain on the bike, follow this guy's instructions then pull the chain and drop it in some type of solvent and see how filthy it still is.
A lot of steels have an anti rust treatment that can be stripped by anti rust oils like WD40 type penetrate oil. Then the metal rust after the thin layer of oil comes off. I blue gun steel in touch up areas with a tool coating liquid that is copper based. It turns the raw steel black. My bike chains are also sensitive to being chemically stripped by a "rust inhibitor" oil that actually causes more problems than solves.
lol those were the days. and ive broken so many chain breakers using kmc chains i still carry a nail and something with a hole in. 😄 rocks are easy to find usually.
@@amdmamdm it’s a mountain bike they shake, rattle & roll anyway! I really don’t have to change it as I don’t hear a click? I think I’m just blessed! 👍🏻
If you use a chain for more than 1000 miles you will have to replace the cassette and the chain rings much more frequently. Breaking the chain 30 times in 1000 miles is really excessive.
Brake cleaner, this stuff removes anything oil/grease base solutions.. then i would use PTFE (aka teflon) spray to oil the chain, and use some old t-shirt (or any rag) to wipe the excess oil off oh, and when applying spray on the chain.. if you have the chain on, spray it at front cog... if you spray it at the rear there is a good chance that you also oil your brake disc and pads... you can use brake cleaner to clean the disc, but you need to replace the pads if this happens... (damn i felt stupid when i did this -.-) i have ~3000 miles on my chain, and the bike is used all year round.. from +30c to -30c, in rain and in snow
Really great video.. i didn't know about all of those. Interesting to know that there are some quick links designed to be reused. So i guess if you rewax chain every 300 miles and you ride 6000 miles in a year then you need 20 non reusable sets of quick links? Oh man. I don't think my quick links are reusable and I've been waxing my chains every 200-300 miles for two years now and haven't yet had a single failure.. honestly I'm getting concerned with the age of the chains despite then not showing any signs of stretching.
The connex links are probably what you want, they're a bit more expensive but rather than relying on friction to keep them together, there's a labyrinth for the pins to follow and stop them coming out so totally reusable for ages.
Quick links are very sturdy and easy to use. Sometimes you may need a piece of thin wire (e.g. the used inner wire from the derailleur) to open the quick link if it's really tight. It's important to clean the chain before the lubrication. The cheapest way is 1 liter plastic bottle with some amount of diesel fuel just to cover the chain. Don't shake it too much. Then you cut the bottle, take out the chain and put it on a piece of cloth. Take your time and carefully clean each link with another cloth.
The first 1: 45 of the videos. When I was a young kid. I never had special tools for bikes I still don't I've always split them with a chisel or screwdriver and mushrooms the end over never had any problems.
How do you mushroom the pins? I'm worried about my spliced chain will break up in the same joint because it's a emtb with 90-95 nm torque (which is why I think it should have something closer to a mc chain)
the r wears out too..it works but it becomes really very loose. i dont trust em. as soon as its loose (like 4 removals) i replace it. they say reusable but how many times..once...twice..its not the life of your chain thats for sure.
What is special about the Shimano Steps CN-E6070 E-Bike Chain and do they not include missing link because supplied connecting pin is better or just less expensive?
Haha...I made mistake number 3, just today! I can't tell you how many times I've changed out my drivetrain in the past 30 years and I made that mistake for the first time, today! I guess that's what happens when one becomes complacent and doesn't pay close attention, lol :).
The mechanic install my shimano chain incorrectly. The logo of the hg was inside which is suppose to be on the outside. I used my bike already for about 300km+..Is it ok to place the chain on the correct side or it should be place the way it was before?
My Shimano chain broke after 2500-3000 miles. It was the one I got when I bought the bike, so I never bothered to look into chain maintenance other then lubrication and basic cleaning. When I started looking into videos about chain mounting/de-mounting I found out it was put on backwards with the signs on the inside. I wonder if that could be to blade for it breaking and wearing out fast.
Ahhhhh I have made the derailleur mistake 😂 really irritating, felt really silly. Also thank you for the great info about split links... I boil my chain in wax and Teflon and I am just never sure how many times I can use a quick/split link. Always awesome info ....Thanks you.
I hear people say not to reuse the pins and the use a master link, but I bin reusing my pins for the last 25 years and never had an issue. As long as the link is tight, it should be stronger than a master link.
By using your brain and money wisely. The same way you can kill brand new engine racing up hill and towing a boat to another coast. Of course you can change your chain every week instead of spending time on the road.
@@jerrysmietanka2180 I didn't understand what you mean. I have tried lots of lube and now waxing. I check my chain very seriously and carefully but couldn't do more than 5000km on any of my chain
I work with homeless folks in Florida and a LOT of them ride bikes. They have all manner of Bikes, Trikes, E-Bikes, etcetera, and MOSTof them do NOT do regular, if ANY maintenance on their bikes! I pass on good info like this but I have not seen any chain breaks in 2 years (So Far) The most maintenence their bikes get is MAYBE adding some air to the tires so their tires do not go COMPLETELY flat! You know, I TRY to help, but it's like P*****g in the wind, mostly! Sometimes, I feel more sorry for their bikes than I do for THEM! Lol!
😥changed chain and cassette yesterday...today after only 30km it's making noises again (that's why i changed the old stuff). but i just whiped the original lube a bit down and after 25km i oiled it with wet condition chain lube
Dodo on embn tech Said Don't clean the new chain ,he claims that the lube sram etc use is the Best and that the chain is perfectly lubed when buying a new chain.he said that you shouldn't not even lube it for a little while because your lube Will replace the lube in the rollers on the chain and no lube is as good for the rollers as the fabric greas that they lube it with when producing it.. still it's a good video...a lot better than he's break check video
the kmc guys showed up on the forums and quoted the same. it makes em look bad if people mess it up is all. use a soft teflon wax and go through the whole procedure properly and its much nicer than the installed grease. maybe change it when youd normally lube your chain but honestly the black gunk is gonna be all up in those links not a nice clean little spread of grease like youd expect. theyre actually quite loose fitting inside. whats harder to get out of a tight gap using movement and water..a wax or grease. 🤷
@@luminousfractal420 I tried many lubes but the only one I never broken a chain while using is ballistol it's not really for bicycles but its really good and it's a spray can so it's easy to get in those rollers ,,in emergency you can also use in your bicycle Lock if it gets stuck because rain or something washed out the oil.. but after using it every Day for a couple of weeks it gets black but it's wet so don't use it if you need dry lube
@Alfred Wedmore According to KMC, a 6 speed (they don't make a 5 speed anymore!) is 3/32", whereas a 10-speed is 11/128". That's only a 9% difference. Note to self... measure the actual width of the chain on the Raleigh.
To not clean is the mistake. New chains come with some lubrication to protect it from rusting when it's stored for months. But if you use the chain without cleaning, it will attract all the dirt on the outside. Danny said this in another video and it makes sense to me.
You can also clean it after you have put it on. I have never felt the the fabric lubrication attract much dirt. It depend more on what kind of lubrication you use afterwards.
new subscriber, love my bikes and to tinker thanks for the tips:) sorry but couldn’t help noticing your portable jbl boombox in the background love those i own 2 :)
I've got 6000 miles on my mountain bike chain and it seems like new. Front sprocket is showing some cupping on the teeth although. It's a Specialized Pitch so nothing real fancy.
Lol, I lost a master link about 20 years ago, had to knock pins out with a hammer, pushed one back in and rode the bike for years, there was never a problem. It might be an issue for more expensive chains, but most people are only paying $20 to $30 for a chain.
Hi, I did this mistake, I could not believe how and only realized it after 30km of bunch ride, did not have time to stop and check... ;) It rattled all the way long, pretty noisy.
i'll throw one in. dont use an oval (absolute black) chainring with an sxg chainguide. hopped off a kerb the other day. the chain..i think..folded on itself during a suspension squish where the smallest width of the oval is, chain (kmc..very tough) tore itself apart. one of these fairly new devices that i love had to go. had to ditch the chainring :/ meh.
Mileage on a chain depends on what you're doing with that... on ebikes for example wearing must be 0.5 for replacement and the chain lasts about 1500/2000 km maximum... even with maximum care.
i see kmc do an ebike version now...but im a bit skeptical as its the exact same weight as the the standard heavy version they make. also because they made that diamond like coating thing...i dont want diamonds on my sprockets..much rather replace a worn chain 🤣
Thanks for your tips! Much appreciated. Anyways just want to share that I’ve been using kerosene to use for chain shake, it’s cheap and cleans amazingly!👍
I've made the same mistake with the routing of the chain I ride with 1000 watt mid drive motor 160 nm and actually works better on small cogs no skipping put it right skipping on high load again new chain gonna stick it back and grease it
What is this nonsense with quicklinks? I have always re-used them without issue. You only have to look at them and the way they work to see that there will be no issue with re-use. Does this claim that they are single use come from the same people that claim discs are better than rims by chance...?
manufacturer. but even the reusable ones wear out these days. you need the oldskool parts the new stuff is more...disposable. i nevee trusted wipperman connex because they used to have so many chains reported exploding. but i hear the old quick links are good. with modern drivetrains i wouldnt be so sure they would work well though. theyre all so finely tuned now. its a different generation for bikes.
DUDE you just saved me..I replaced my chain on an tourney RD...and I did that thing with the chain running under that plate! no wonder I could not back pedal and it felt really harsh riding on the big cog up front. lol, thanks!!
I reuse my quicklinks a lot since years, all of those are "non reusable" ones . Sometimes I i open and close them daily because i wash my chain off the bike. Never had any problem with them. Dont throw everything into the garbage after one instance of use. Only if it is worn with the chain together
Same here. I reuse quicklinks and will continue to do so until someone provides a sound engineering reason not to.
On a single speed it might matter, but any bike with a tensioner I can't fathom any reason not to.
Cleaning your chain every day sonce like it's very oily... Ever tried a waxxed chain?
@@kaedeschulz5422 If you ride in dirty conditions, doesnt matter the lube. You bike will be dirty as hell.
@@rcs2003 can relate, i live close to the sea so no matter what my chain is always dirty em rusty, i clean it one day and in the next it is already dirty :c
This was such a huge help. I routed my chain incorrectly in the rear derailleur and was struggling a lot to find a way to fix it without removing the chain. Don't know how I never thought of the pulley wheel idea though 😂 anyway, I'm all sorted out!!
Thank you very much!!
Jeez, I’ve been breaking chains for years without using a master link and had only one failure! Well after watching this video I learned some new things and will need to have a spare master link for each bike. I use simple green to clean my chains while on the bike, blow them dry with compressed air, lubricate the chain with a “wet lube” and then wipe dry. I do this on my year round fat bike commuter (through the winter crud) have 3500 miles on the chain and it still works great! Great video! Thank You!
I've been using chains with multiple breaks and never knew this, so far it's working fine tho lol
My chain cleaning trick: a shaker jar and gasoline. Works like a charm. Air dry and lube the chain well. Next cleaning, use a different shaker jar, and transfer the gasoline over without disturbing the sediment. Then clean the jar. One shaker jar of gasoline lasts several months. Just use caution storing the used gasoline. And lastly, I’ve used the same master link for years, to include a ride across the country with no issues, but I always carry a spare.
Use diesel to clean it.
Yup, I routed the chain wrong between those 2 back pulleys, grinding sound but shifting was fine, then I saw your video. I split the quick link and rerouted the chain, no more grinding. Thanks for your help, your videos are the best.
I rode quite a few rides that way before another rider pointed it out… so embarrassing…
@@cshigley And it's amazing how well it works, shifts perfectly, but that little grinding noise that I thought would eventually resolve by itself. However, with the chain properly routed it's totally smooth and noiseless.
Remember to put thread lock on the jockey wheel bolt when you reassemble the derailleur.
yeah I learned the hard way, bolt came loose, and the cage went into the rear wheel taking the wheel with it! The cage was all bent into the cassette too
Good video - I've done 2 of the mistakes. 3 if you count that I never wash or dry my winter commuting bike. The most frustrating mistake is the upside-down eagle link which is only an issue when on the 11t cog. The chain is kicked off the cog when the link hits the lock-ring. I spent an hour troubleshooting the derailleur only to realize I was a moron.
Well watching this vid makes you not a moron 🙂
I always try to clean chain, rear cogs, pulleys and crankset after each ride. Then lube it all with some good wet chain oil, leaving it for set up a couple of hours, finally wipe off excess lube on the chain before next ride. Never leave drive train dirty or wet overnight as you recommend. Really nice tips here! Congrats.
Yes, a chain will look like that after a couple days of being wet, when the thing isn't oiled like it should be. But I've revived even the rustiest bike chains simply by oiling them and running them normally, even seized bike chains are still good. I've never had issues using even the worst, pitted bike chain, not even with breakage, and I was certainly rough with bikes when I was younger.
Thanks, like many commentors, I re-use my quick link. I cannot imagine the means of failure as the pin is tensioned in to the narrow part of the link. I do however carry a new quick link at all times. Reckon I can repair a broken chain faster than a puncture.
Only had a few chain breaks, I am a heavy guy, they break when you are standing up, the crossbar breaks your fall and your balls, so you tend to remember chain breaks.
I tried for the first couple of years with my latest bike (I have only owned and ridden a single bike at a time)... to keep it clean and shiny all the time, immaculate. I obsessed over the chain to the point of cleaning it during rides. This is all while averaging over 7K miles a year, 20 to 120 mile rides year around. That means for me, living in the Pacific Northwest, 4 to 6 months of riding in the rain and on muddy wet surfaces. I have a Rohloff Speedhub mounted on a full-suspension touring bike coupled to a BBSHD mid-drive and it's amazing. It's broken me to ever owning another bike without a Rohloff. The mid-drive and the Speedhub are made for each other, they go together like lamb and tuna fish. @ The 1st year I rode I changed the chain 8 times... whenever it got to 0.5% wear as tested with a Park tool. After another 25K miles and 4 years riding I now wipe the chain clean daily and swap my chains every 6 months. Drop the chain, flip or replace the Rohloff gear, mount a new chain, and ride. Always having a straight chain line makes it amazingly easy to maintain.
11 Jul 19 - 71 miles w/front panniers & trailer on less than 15Ah... 1/2 the packs capacity.
www.relive.cc/view/g37290970278
photos.app.goo.gl/RD1NrDPCZQuHpWja9
For anyone that thinks they can really clean the chain on the bike, follow this guy's instructions then pull the chain and drop it in some type of solvent and see how filthy it still is.
A lot of steels have an anti rust treatment that can be stripped by anti rust oils like WD40 type penetrate oil. Then the metal rust after the thin layer of oil comes off. I blue gun steel in touch up areas with a tool coating liquid that is copper based. It turns the raw steel black. My bike chains are also sensitive to being chemically stripped by a "rust inhibitor" oil that actually causes more problems than solves.
Very informative! I’m new to MTBing and think my chain is installed wrong, now I know. Thank you so very much!
Thank you.
Solid subscriber here from pangasinan, Philippines 🇵🇭 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
In my childhood I worked on chain pins with a nail and hammer. Chain breaker would make me believing Im in a bicycle heaven.
lol those were the days. and ive broken so many chain breakers using kmc chains i still carry a nail and something with a hole in. 😄 rocks are easy to find usually.
Good vid. But I totally disagree about the split links. I’ve split mine more than 20-30 times and it’s fine. 👍🏻
It’s fine but it starts clicking so you have to change it or listen that metronome
@@amdmamdm it’s a mountain bike they shake, rattle & roll anyway! I really don’t have to change it as I don’t hear a click? I think I’m just blessed! 👍🏻
Yup it can still be ok to reuse the quick links. That's mostly manufacturer recommendation, and most times you can reuse it several times
Connex links are the best imho I used them in the past and never had any issues.. now I use specific links for shimano chains and aren't the same 😬
If you use a chain for more than 1000 miles you will have to replace the cassette and the chain rings much more frequently. Breaking the chain 30 times in 1000 miles is really excessive.
Where is the Link in the Description about "Mud Proof"?
Reusing the same pin I've never had any problems with that I've been doing that for years and I've had no problems
How to clean oil from the new chain? Can I use gasoline? Can I immerse chain in it or just clean outside of the chain?
Brake cleaner, this stuff removes anything oil/grease base solutions.. then i would use PTFE (aka teflon) spray to oil the chain, and use some old t-shirt (or any rag) to wipe the excess oil off
oh, and when applying spray on the chain.. if you have the chain on, spray it at front cog... if you spray it at the rear there is a good chance that you also oil your brake disc and pads... you can use brake cleaner to clean the disc, but you need to replace the pads if this happens... (damn i felt stupid when i did this -.-)
i have ~3000 miles on my chain, and the bike is used all year round.. from +30c to -30c, in rain and in snow
Great video. I just replaced the chain on my Klein and now I am going to see if I messed up. Thank you.
where's the "link" for mud-proofing the chain?
search mud proof chain in his videos section
I learned some new things watching your video. Thanks!
Thank you fpr clear close ups!! 4 hours later and messed up but i guess tomorrow is another day
Really great video.. i didn't know about all of those. Interesting to know that there are some quick links designed to be reused.
So i guess if you rewax chain every 300 miles and you ride 6000 miles in a year then you need 20 non reusable sets of quick links? Oh man. I don't think my quick links are reusable and I've been waxing my chains every 200-300 miles for two years now and haven't yet had a single failure.. honestly I'm getting concerned with the age of the chains despite then not showing any signs of stretching.
The connex links are probably what you want, they're a bit more expensive but rather than relying on friction to keep them together, there's a labyrinth for the pins to follow and stop them coming out so totally reusable for ages.
Quick links are very sturdy and easy to use. Sometimes you may need a piece of thin wire (e.g. the used inner wire from the derailleur) to open the quick link if it's really tight. It's important to clean the chain before the lubrication. The cheapest way is 1 liter plastic bottle with some amount of diesel fuel just to cover the chain. Don't shake it too much. Then you cut the bottle, take out the chain and put it on a piece of cloth. Take your time and carefully clean each link with another cloth.
thank you my chain is in wrong direction thank you for new knowlede God bless
The first 1: 45 of the videos.
When I was a young kid.
I never had special tools for bikes
I still don't
I've always split them with a chisel or screwdriver and mushrooms the end over never had any problems.
How do you mushroom the pins? I'm worried about my spliced chain will break up in the same joint because it's a emtb with 90-95 nm torque (which is why I think it should have something closer to a mc chain)
Poor snail
RIP Old friend 🐌
Hey, this is really great! I didn't know any of these and am pleased to say I still did it all right ;D These are great tips to remember!
Great video! I'm checking my KMC chain for the "R"...Thank you!
the r wears out too..it works but it becomes really very loose. i dont trust em. as soon as its loose (like 4 removals) i replace it. they say reusable but how many times..once...twice..its not the life of your chain thats for sure.
At 5:13, the arrow on the quick link seems to be incorrect? Could be for the purpose of demonstration :)
Good catch
What is special about the Shimano Steps CN-E6070 E-Bike Chain and do they not include missing link because supplied connecting pin is better or just less expensive?
Haha...I made mistake number 3, just today! I can't tell you how many times I've changed out my drivetrain in the past 30 years and I made that mistake for the first time, today! I guess that's what happens when one becomes complacent and doesn't pay close attention, lol :).
The mechanic install my shimano chain incorrectly. The logo of the hg was inside which is suppose to be on the outside. I used my bike already for about 300km+..Is it ok to place the chain on the correct side or it should be place the way it was before?
My Shimano chain broke after 2500-3000 miles. It was the one I got when I bought the bike, so I never bothered to look into chain maintenance other then lubrication and basic cleaning. When I started looking into videos about chain mounting/de-mounting I found out it was put on backwards with the signs on the inside. I wonder if that could be to blade for it breaking and wearing out fast.
The KMC quick link instructions says to only reuse it 3 times.
nice to see your videos being popular 188k views
Your video would be PERFECT if I have watched it BEFORE making almost all of these mistakes 😂
Ahhhhh I have made the derailleur mistake 😂 really irritating, felt really silly. Also thank you for the great info about split links... I boil my chain in wax and Teflon and I am just never sure how many times I can use a quick/split link. Always awesome info ....Thanks you.
How straight should a derailleur must be?
Did you apologize to the snail? Too funny...
Hi there can I use any greas8for the chain......an what kind de oil can I use for spiral bike .an front shock...
I never had those rings on the tool with KMC chains that doesn't have hollow pins.
Dude 10k Mille's on on chain really .. love your video man I subscribe now
I hear people say not to reuse the pins and the use a master link, but I bin reusing my pins for the last 25 years and never had an issue. As long as the link is tight, it should be stronger than a master link.
10thousand mile on a chain?? How is it really possible?
On granny gear
@@rcs2003 😂
You have to weigh 40kg!
By using your brain and money wisely. The same way you can kill brand new engine racing up hill and towing a boat to another coast. Of course you can change your chain every week instead of spending time on the road.
@@jerrysmietanka2180 I didn't understand what you mean. I have tried lots of lube and now waxing. I check my chain very seriously and carefully but couldn't do more than 5000km on any of my chain
I subscribed after the 1st video, it have never happened to me before... nice vid
I love this video. I am now woke on bike chains. ❤️
How to do the mistake # 3?
I work with homeless folks in Florida and a LOT of them ride bikes. They have all manner of Bikes, Trikes, E-Bikes, etcetera, and MOSTof them do NOT do regular, if ANY maintenance on their bikes! I pass on good info like this but I have not seen any chain breaks in 2 years (So Far)
The most maintenence their bikes get is MAYBE adding some air to the tires so their tires do not go COMPLETELY flat!
You know, I TRY to help, but it's like P*****g in the wind, mostly! Sometimes, I feel more sorry for their bikes than I do for THEM!
Lol!
Awesome video, thank you for sharing.
I use a small amount of paraffin works great for chain cleaning
The 'crunch' of the snail, and "sorry"!🤣🤣🤣
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@5:16 Chain does have logos on outside, but quick link arrow pointing wrong direction?
Because quick link is placed incorrectly. The arrow should be on the outside. Then the arrow will point backwards.
😥changed chain and cassette yesterday...today after only 30km it's making noises again (that's why i changed the old stuff). but i just whiped the original lube a bit down and after 25km i oiled it with wet condition chain lube
Dodo on embn tech Said Don't clean the new chain ,he claims that the lube sram etc use is the Best and that the chain is perfectly lubed when buying a new chain.he said that you shouldn't not even lube it for a little while because your lube Will replace the lube in the rollers on the chain and no lube is as good for the rollers as the fabric greas that they lube it with when producing it.. still it's a good video...a lot better than he's break check video
the kmc guys showed up on the forums and quoted the same. it makes em look bad if people mess it up is all. use a soft teflon wax and go through the whole procedure properly and its much nicer than the installed grease. maybe change it when youd normally lube your chain but honestly the black gunk is gonna be all up in those links not a nice clean little spread of grease like youd expect. theyre actually quite loose fitting inside. whats harder to get out of a tight gap using movement and water..a wax or grease. 🤷
@@luminousfractal420 I tried many lubes but the only one I never broken a chain while using is ballistol it's not really for bicycles but its really good and it's a spray can so it's easy to get in those rollers ,,in emergency you can also use in your bicycle Lock if it gets stuck because rain or something washed out the oil.. but after using it every Day for a couple of weeks it gets black but it's wet so don't use it if you need dry lube
Hoping to have a bike soon. ❤️ ❤️
Excellent, thanks a lot !
10,000 miles for one chain ⛓ ??
I can do about 1000km and that is it (on MTB cycling hard). Then it's close to 0.75% longer and I replace it.
@@MrVolodus yeah I a
Can do between 1200 and 1800 depending on the conditions then it needs changing
Quick link reusability is the reason I like Connex Link quick links.
Tool free and reusable.
1977 Raleigh Supercourse, somewhere around 20K on the chain... 5 speed chains last a long time.
@Alfred Wedmore According to KMC, a 6 speed (they don't make a 5 speed anymore!) is 3/32", whereas a 10-speed is 11/128". That's only a 9% difference. Note to self... measure the actual width of the chain on the Raleigh.
Nice video mate
I’m new to this
So always after ride in the rain I should dry chain and lubricate it again ?
It's enough to wipe it with a dry rag and oil it. Only 2-5minute task.
Great video.. great advice with attention to detail
Is the mistake putting the new chain on without cleaning it or cleaning it before you put it on?
To not clean is the mistake. New chains come with some lubrication to protect it from rusting when it's stored for months. But if you use the chain without cleaning, it will attract all the dirt on the outside.
Danny said this in another video and it makes sense to me.
@@nitishsrivastava1496 I thought so as I feel the same way but I have heard other people say the opposite.
You can also clean it after you have put it on. I have never felt the the fabric lubrication attract much dirt. It depend more on what kind of lubrication you use afterwards.
Done the chain routing mistake a few times. Now ride mainly fixed gear so everything is much simpler! Tougher too.
With SS/FG there's chainline, concept mostly unknown to users of derailleur geared bikes.
new subscriber, love my bikes and to tinker thanks for the tips:) sorry but couldn’t help noticing your portable jbl boombox in the background love those i own 2 :)
10,000 miles on road bike chain.
How many miles on a mountain bike chain?
I've got 6000 miles on my mountain bike chain and it seems like new. Front sprocket is showing some cupping on the teeth although. It's a Specialized Pitch so nothing real fancy.
Always much less than on a road bike!
My old quicklinks is always with me on my long rides in case my chain breaks.
Lol, I lost a master link about 20 years ago, had to knock pins out with a hammer, pushed one back in and rode the bike for years, there was never a problem. It might be an issue for more expensive chains, but most people are only paying $20 to $30 for a chain.
if you can 'peen' the pin slightly with a hammer/punch against a heavy steel surface or another hammer, it will help when needing to reuse pins.
Thanks!
thanks ! very good advice!
Very informative video. Thank you.
Sir can you use deore 5100 rear derailleur to a deore 12 speed cassette?
Wow, thanks for tips!
If i clean my chain i use Diesel it works very good. And i do it only one time in the lifetime of my chain.
Re using the pins and quick links actually don’t ruin the chain, cleaning a new chain is debatable,…
thank you for sharing tips
from philippines
You are so smart. Are you from Ykpaiha?🚲
You should have shown the chain from the other side. The way you did it makes it really hard to see
Hi, I did this mistake, I could not believe how and only realized it after 30km of bunch ride, did not have time to stop and check... ;) It rattled all the way long, pretty noisy.
Do you shake your chain in a glass jar? If so, it is a bit silly.
very good joop 🚴💨
i'll throw one in. dont use an oval (absolute black) chainring with an sxg chainguide. hopped off a kerb the other day. the chain..i think..folded on itself during a suspension squish where the smallest width of the oval is, chain (kmc..very tough) tore itself apart.
one of these fairly new devices that i love had to go. had to ditch the chainring :/ meh.
not using a wax lube could be a mistake. it reduces maintenance and wear so much
Mileage on a chain depends on what you're doing with that... on ebikes for example wearing must be 0.5 for replacement and the chain lasts about 1500/2000 km maximum... even with maximum care.
i see kmc do an ebike version now...but im a bit skeptical as its the exact same weight as the the standard heavy version they make. also because they made that diamond like coating thing...i dont want diamonds on my sprockets..much rather replace a worn chain 🤣
Great tutorial, thanks
is sram chain directional?
Very helpful
thank you
Thanks for your tips! Much appreciated. Anyways just want to share that I’ve been using kerosene to use for chain shake, it’s cheap and cleans amazingly!👍
I'm so lazy with maintenance that I just replaced seized links with new quick links. Currently have 3 on my 11-speed chain.
gracias!!
And mind those Narrow Wide pulleys and chainrings and make sure your chain is engaging in the right tooth
This makes me want to make a bicycle out of re-used quick-links all backwards because I know it will annoy someone.
great channel and content!
I've made the same mistake with the routing of the chain I ride with 1000 watt mid drive motor 160 nm and actually works better on small cogs no skipping put it right skipping on high load again new chain gonna stick it back and grease it
What is this nonsense with quicklinks? I have always re-used them without issue. You only have to look at them and the way they work to see that there will be no issue with re-use. Does this claim that they are single use come from the same people that claim discs are better than rims by chance...?
manufacturer. but even the reusable ones wear out these days. you need the oldskool parts the new stuff is more...disposable. i nevee trusted wipperman connex because they used to have so many chains reported exploding. but i hear the old quick links are good. with modern drivetrains i wouldnt be so sure they would work well though. theyre all so finely tuned now. its a different generation for bikes.
Great, just found out that I put the chainlink in the wrong direction and i have a non reusable -.-
good video，would you like to review our carbon wheels ？
I would gladly do so