In the next episode of yelistener saga featuring Red Bull drivers - "Why is Perez so much slower in Silverstone qualifying than Verstappen" - coming 8 july 2025! Stay tuned!
Perez was that much behind Max in qualifying in 2023 as well, but considering how much ahead of everyone else Red Bull was he still finished the season in P2. Although with the largest gap to P1 in F1 history(both points and percentage wise). I don't think he's fallen off compared to 2023. He stayed the same. It's just with the competition catching up it becomes more of a problem for the team.
@@caydenph2741 I remember there being a massive disparity between two seemingly good Red Bull drivers in 2013 and the reason was cheating. Been a bunch of odd coded messages about when to use something to Max during the last two years and some really odd GPS lap data. Spa was particularly telling for me, one of the slowest through the el rouge section and with the fastest lap times. My suspicion is active ride height control.
@@arisk2410 oh I’m not going to defend my wild conspiracy theory lol I just have a sneaking suspicion. Yeah if they were running a particularly slick car you would think that their pace through a down force heavy section would be comprised but the concept of the RB is having perfected the ground effect. That would be section where it would be especially effective. From memory (and don’t quote me on this) he was several tenths off through there to then go on to be 8 tenths or so faster over the lap. To me that does make sense. Spa on particular had team messages of “use your head now” and responses of “are we both doing it here” at the same point on the circuit regularly too. It sounds like funny business to me, like they had to do something to protect the underfloor from grounding out and getting too much wear.
There's probably many factors contributing here. Checo's car definitely looks more nervous on power on exits and some of the curbs just seem to unsettle the car. It could be a setup difference on top of the confidence issues Perez has at this point, as well as how not comfortable he is with this pointy car that Max just loves
@@petri2767 Nope. Verstappen got away by 8 seconds on like 20 laps. Then he started managing tyres. Why did Noris get him at the end? Because of the bad pit stop and chosen tyre.
We saw yesterday why they won't put a fast driver next to max in red bull. Anyone who can get close enough to challenge max he turns into crashstappen. We saw it with ricciardo before at red bull. So they keep a mid driver like checo there to please max
@@andrewmelton2686 We also saw yesterday what happens when you give a fast car to incompetent driver. Lando tried to be extra aggressive so he can redeem himself for getting schooled in the sprint race by max.
This is just sad man, at the start of last season, Checo was in pretty good form, winning taces on pace and competing with Max and Charles for poles. I guess Miami and Monaco really broke him.
it didnt break him? losing races wont break a racing driver the car just made developments through the season and it falls out of checos control watch albons interview that car is insanely difficult to drive
1:18 Verstappen drives the way Jim Clark said he does aka different. I remember an interview where Jim Clark said he is a front slider while everyone else is rear happy. Front slider aka understeer drivers enter corners with much greater car control and hence can get on the gas sooner. Look at how Max, brakes earlier and then look at how much more steering lock he adds in compared to Perez. This extra steering lock reduces the grip slightly at the fronts giving the front slider ease Jim Clark spoke about. Perez has to add in steering lock at the end of the turn just as he is adding in power making rear squirrel quite a bit.
i think checo was running higher downforce because his straight line speed was lower than max and he did have a slightly higher minimum speed in some corners even though he lost out in them
Mr Yelistener. Could you make a video comparison between max vs sainz in Austria T3 (shown a couple videos back) and the incident between max and norris T3? Quite comparible and pretty compelling! (Also extra views because of the drame ;)
He's Max's wingman. But he's not even good enough to do that properly. He's supposed to be good enough to run 2nd to Max in every race to hold off the rest of the field. But he's just too slow. He's not good enough to maximize the RB20's performance. He would be better suited to a slower car. The RB20 is just too fast for him.
I don't think Perez is or was a bad driver. he had some insane performances. Max has always destroyed his teammates and once they leave Red Bull they start performing really well. Alex was even considered for the Mercedes but was even worse compared to Max than Perez. Gasly is one of the fastest and people praised Ricciardo in his Renault days. Max can do things in a Red Bull that nobody else can. it is a question mark as to whether he can do it in a different car. And that's probably one reason he committed to Red Bull till 28'
Ricciardo was praised more in his Redbull days. He remains the only person to beat Max consistently. I remember in 2018, Ric had an issue every race, with like 8 DNFs, most of them engine related and he still somehow ended up only 50 points behind Max. I think it's more a case that the other teammates Max has had were mentally broken as Redbull have built their team around Verstappen. Same as they did with Vettel.
watched the entire 2018 season, Ricciardo had some crazy bad luck with reliability, man was the only one who could beat or match max consistently, but that was 6 years ago now.
Max and Ricciardo have the driving style, max even adapted from Ricciardo's original way when he joined red bull. Ricciardo had a great renault 2020 but his peaks were at red bull. if they ever put him back, he will be closer to max than perez is
I might get bad comments from this, but... Bro, i love your channel, but (as a Mexican) i hate to see that 1/5 videos are about Checo's bad performance (and i agree he is performing bad, it hurts). I mean... i don't see any videos about why Sargeant never beats Albon (i know it just happened in austria), but i think there's something against Checo, or the fact that most of the videos are about the top cars. I don't know if is that, i just have a feeling. Anyways, i hope Checo's performance improves, and see you review that...
There is nothing against Checo, right now he just sucks, and I really like the guy, but when *you're in the fastest car of the grid* (arguably the McLaren is faster now, but for the last 3 years the Bull has been the fastest) and you're in any other position than 2nd (Max is a driving machine), and being completely obliterated by drivers in *way slower cars* (ignore Austria, he has sucked in *a lot* of races agianst slower oponents) it shows that *the driver is the issue* so the criticism is very well deserved right now, hell even on Mercs dominant years you almost always saw Hamilton and Bottas fighting each other unless the "tradition" happened and Bottas was screwed, or the "Valttery, it's James" moments and again, Bottas was somehow screwed lol
There are several reasons for sure. One is that comparing top drivers brings a lot more views than comparing backmarkers. Another one is that Checo hasn't always been slow, which makes his predicament more interesting. Sargeant, on the other hand, has never been quick in a F1 car. Bottas vs. Zhou is in the same category. Bottas is completely obliterating Zhou this season, but while Zhou has been better than Sargeant, he's never looked very quick either.
Nobody cares about mid pack runners like Sargeant and Albon. Max is up from every race and Perez has the same car. While everyone still expects Max to outperform him, the expectation is that Perez should be closer in performance. He should consistently be getting podium finishes and he doesn't. He's finishing 1/2 lap behind and generally not even in the top 5. 1/2 second per lap doesn't sound like much but its over 30 seconds by the end of the race.
@@ancalitesWell, We can accept the fact Haas is having a better car to fight for points and, sure, it will fight when can. Last time, was Alpine the headache, but not a single dent this time. I'm aware it's hard to root for Perez nowadays due to his lack of pace.
@@GaloGaloso he purposely ran Piastri off the road but slammed his sidepod into the McLaren's front tire while he was at it, scoring an own goal for the entire rest of his race while Piastri ended up 2nd
or he is just not able to drive the car to the limit lol why would they give him a worse car? sure maybe he gets updates after max but thats about it. They are about to fall behind in constructors and he is no match to max so no point in giving him a slower car.
An in depth analysis of Verstappen and Norris duel would be nice, especially the first norris overtake attempts (that are being overlooked by pretty much everybody) as i noticed a lot of turning under braking from verstappen, and that might be the reason of why norris started divebombing the laps later
Now that i see that i'm not the only one who noticed the Perez bad permormance playlist on this channel, i have a suggestion... how about you cover sainz vs zhou in q1? It being the closest q1 in... i dont know how much long...
Haas fought Perez. Both made earlier pit stops and Perez was meant to overtake over and over again. For some reason, Perez did at last lap, but hulk got him again. Hope I can see the onboard from this.
It looks like Perez is braking at roughly the 125-meter mark from Turn 1, while Max brakes just past the 100-meter board. This is a significant difference in braking for Turn 1 alone as max can carry the speed down the straight.. Throughout the lap, Perez appears to brake for a longer duration (possibly with less force) than Max. Max seems to brake later and harder, achieve the rotation, and then get back on the power quicker than Perez. It would be great to see their telemetry data for this. Perez is just unable to get what Max can out of the car.
Bizarre. He goes down two gears which I imagine pushes him slightly wider. Loses out mid corner, and then is far later on the accelerator in the final corner.
always wild as someone who doesn't follow the sport to see ".675" and destroyed in the same sentence, it's just like Olympic swimming- incredible how close it comes down to!
Congratulations to both Perez and Stroll. To one for staying in F1 solely because he only brings sponsors who pay a lot of money, and to the other solely because of his daddy who paid a lot of money to buy the team. 🙏
And Finished in a HAAS sandwich at the end of the weekend (great job by the HAAS duo by the way). Perez is completely out of pace, even compared to himself, I don't know if it's the pressure of the season or the curse of the RBR second seat,but he is underperforming to a comparable level to his 2021 season (where he got defeated by Bottas,in the most inconsistent season for the Finnish driver on his Mercedes Stint).
@@caydenph2741the hole in the sidepod? But this video is about qualy. What i find very interesting is what alex had to say about how the car handles because of max. Max likes the car super pointy. Alex said it's like playing with super high sensitivity in an egoshooter. Max says he want's it even pointier. They make it pointier and he goes even faster. This cycle continues. Almost nobody else can drive a car with a handling like this so safely on the edge. So max and the car get faster, second pilot gets more and more uncomfy and looses confidence. I don't know how true that is, i wasnt there, haven't driven the redbull, but it sounds realistic. But IMHO a top driver in a top team should be able to adapt
I don’t understand why some F1 drivers don’t understand this but the way you drive in qualifying as in the line you take is completely different to what you do in a race. Here you see the perfect example, Perez driving qualifying like the same what he does during races.
It struck me that all other 6 top team drivers qualified between Max and Checo. RB appears no longer the fastest car but Max outperforms it (until Lando catches up and friends shake wheels) while Checo may be more average in what he can pull out of it.
First of all, In the race Perez had a hole in the side pod causing unknown amounts of time lost, stated by Horner. Last year he had his Q2 time deleted at that 9 10 complex. Peter Windsor suggested after qualifying last year on his TH-cam channel; that Perez only needed to back off in 9 10 to make Q3. The car running wide is an issue for him there. In 2004 they showed no track limits Quali. laps and how the car naturally runs wide while gaining speed. The FIA only recently added these track limits rules. Perez is a corner arc driver 'of the past' know for the tire preservation. This rule is brutal as it restricts his line in the corners costing him time and wearing out the tires. His typical exit would have the tires as straight as possible cutting wear. That is becoming more of a problem. Rotating the back of the car is a new skill that drivers like Max have adapted to. Drivers like Vettel, drive like Perez and Vettel's career came to an end by not changing his driving style. Vettel would diamond the corners and lose time. To adapt to this new style, can mean getting massive oversteer and some drivers can't take it. The tires are now worse in the wear department, plus the cars are designed for this new era driver.
I don't think Perez is a great driver, but even he is not THAT bad. He drove other cars before, he was good. I firmly believe he and Verstapen don't get the same hardware.... there is no other explanation.
Red Bull doesn't want Perez to finish poorly, just behind Max. They aren't detuning his car to make less power. They want him to get a good finish too for the constructor's championship. He just doesn't maximize the performance of the car. He's a great driver but not the best one available. There are at least 5 other drivers in other rides that would be faster in that car. Norris and Piastri, both Ferrari drivers and Russell. Even old guys like Hamilton and Alonzo would probably be at least equal to Perez. I think a couple retired drivers would be faster. Vettel and Kimi if they were to compete again would both beat Perez in that car.
There must be something we don't know about red bull and Checo, that's why they are keeping him… Because that's almost unreal they would expand his contract if this performance was only by his mistakes.
Verstappen was really good during lifting and then maximum his throttling at the exit must be talented to feel the grip that he needs unlike checo does...
Max is a top driver but he will never have my respect because he vetoed a good driver like Carlos. ( Confirmed by RB GMBH that max asked them not to sign him and keep Perez and obviously team under pressure of losing him accepted the order) Hamilton never stopped Jenson or any other driver from joining. He was even allowing vettel to join the team.
And then in the race Verstappen gets a puncture a 10 second penalty and still finished in front of Perez who finished behind a Haas. Another reason why he shouldn't get a 2 year contract extension.
I was always hopong to see a head to head between the 3 to better understand how Perez is so much slower than Max. Thanks! Still don't get it though. Has Checo lost 3 steps or is Max just in a league of his own? Unbelievable
I wonder what is going to happen when perez is out. Someone “a lot better” gets the seat and we see more of the same gaps between max and his teammate.
As Mark Webber once said when asked if his car was the same as Vettel's he smiled and said No two cars are the same and that's why Danny Ric left RB on top of the team blaming him for the 2018 crash with Verstappen when the stewards said it was a 50/50 one driver left his breaking too late and the other moved under breaking just like he was doing to Norris in Austria
RB should dump Perez immediately and put in Sainz, or Lawson. Perez has very low race intelligence, and more specific low intelligence on brakepoints ang throttle points. It is verstappen's specialism. Besides having a lot of confidence I don't understand why he doesn't copy Max's sublime technique. Perez is still a student
oh now i get it all.. it's brakes, Perez has smoother brakes maybe cause he asked so.. i mean if you look closely you can see that Max's braking is literally more efficient but that clearly makes the car much more difficult to drive... and we all know that Max likes that "pointy but quick" type of car. So when an alien is driving it's no problem but for a human like Perez that's too much, so they must have made the brakes easier on the tyres so the car is more drivable, but also slower
As a perez fan (he's definitely not confident in that car since he lost his confidence in monaco) and ofc max is a generational talent comparable to Senna Schumacher etc
I think Perez is being very cautious while lifting the throttle as he might lose the rear & endup spinning...dts whr he is losing the speed & don't get the exit as expected... He already adapted the late braking frm daniel but he Shld try & adapt max racing style & build the car according to it... I knw he cnt beat max but can minimize the gap btwn him & max... Lets see...
Here you have a demonstration of how good the GP Lambiase engineering team are vs the mediocre Hugh Bird engineering team, how you gonna get confidence to push hard when the setup is shit?, no balance, no traction, understeery at the entrance, oversteery mid corner, FP1 complain, ignored, FP2 complain, ignored, FP3 complain, ignored, so far and so on is the same shit with Bird and his team
This is the proof that no one can drive the RedBull car like Verstappen and also that the car is designed for his needs. I don't think Perez is underperforming that much, but rather that Verstappen is "overperforming". All the difference was that Verstappen was earlier with the throttle at the exit of the turns. I think if Red Bull designed a car for Perez needs, he would be quicker but the car would hardly fights for pole positions. The only one that could drive at Verstappen level would be Alonso.
give perez a car that suits him more than it suits max and he’ll beat max like he’s proven before. max is rb’s golden boy so everything is designed to max’s preferences and not perez’s hence the gap in performances. it’s really that simple.
Incorrect. An oversteery car will be faster than an understeery car, so Red Bull built the fastest car they could up with, which is geared more to oversteer. But an oversteer car is a lot harder to drive than an understeer car. Max likes oversteer more than understeer, so Max sets it up for oversteer. Perez can’t drive an oversteer car, so he sets it up for understeer, which is slower. Max is way faster than Checo because he’s able to get the most out of the car, but even if he were to set up for more understeer like Checo, he would still beat Checo because he’s just better, but he wouldn’t win by as big of a margin as he is right now, because he would be making his car slower by setting it up for more understeer like Checo is. It’s that simple. Red Bull isn’t favoring Max or Checo, they are building the fastest car they can, which Max is able to drive and Perez isn’t, so Perez has to set up the car a different way which makes it slower. It’s not Max’s fault, it’s not Red Bull’s fault (except for giving Perez an extension, dumbest decision ever), it is Checos fault for not being able to adapt to different driving styles. Max can, Perez can’t. That simple.
Yes but what is Perez's issue? This car is said to be less harder and sharp to drive. So in theory Perez should have improved even more since last year. So what exactly is the issue now?
already the fact that he had to use all tyres to get to q3 is insane 💀
And that with a dominant car ! (yes thats sarcasm)
@@psies2005 sarcasm?
@@Violet-uithe red bull havent been the fastest for a while now
They are well ahead in qualifying, but close on race pace. @@bingchilling-od4rw
@@bingchilling-od4rw Red Bull is still top 4 fastest car, he shouldn't have a problem reaching Q3.
Perez was half a minute behind his team mate who had 3 tyres. I think at this point he's beyond redemption.
The fact that he was fighting a haas. They still gave him a contract... The money he must bring in better be insanely good
Gandalfenburg: YOU SHALL NOT PASS
Still his fault for qualifying low to be in the thick of it at the start, but I believe he has sidepod damage from his contact with Oscar.
@@jeffsan0.5 yeah, albeit the contact was his own doing
@@jeffsan0.5exactly. Without that damage, he would have probably won the race, as shown by his previous race finishes
In the next episode of yelistener saga featuring Red Bull drivers - "Why is Perez so much slower in Silverstone qualifying than Verstappen" - coming 8 july 2025! Stay tuned!
Well I'm waiting for "Perez went beast mode Part 2". Part 1 happened in Suzuka.
@@yelistenerit’ll never happen if Perez stays in this form
@@yelistenerNext time try to give proper context as to why Pérez got beaten by a Haas.
*Spoiler alert*
Mf had a whole bunch of his sidepod ripped off
@@SNBIack He caused his own misery. If he had qualified better he wouldn't have to risk damaging his car battling in the midfield
@@soylentgreen8795 Fyi he was battling against a Mclaren when he had the damage dummy.
I think it's a combination of the margins being so close now between the field and Perez falling off.
Perez was that much behind Max in qualifying in 2023 as well, but considering how much ahead of everyone else Red Bull was he still finished the season in P2. Although with the largest gap to P1 in F1 history(both points and percentage wise). I don't think he's fallen off compared to 2023. He stayed the same. It's just with the competition catching up it becomes more of a problem for the team.
The merch is such a powerful thing
That and the Jos and Max are such entitled brats that they would be insufferable if someone competent was in the second car.
@@tdolan500
Or maybe the car isn't really that great anymore.
@@caydenph2741 I remember there being a massive disparity between two seemingly good Red Bull drivers in 2013 and the reason was cheating.
Been a bunch of odd coded messages about when to use something to Max during the last two years and some really odd GPS lap data.
Spa was particularly telling for me, one of the slowest through the el rouge section and with the fastest lap times.
My suspicion is active ride height control.
@@tdolan500 maybe different downforce setups? Lol.
@@arisk2410 oh I’m not going to defend my wild conspiracy theory lol I just have a sneaking suspicion.
Yeah if they were running a particularly slick car you would think that their pace through a down force heavy section would be comprised but the concept of the RB is having perfected the ground effect. That would be section where it would be especially effective.
From memory (and don’t quote me on this) he was several tenths off through there to then go on to be 8 tenths or so faster over the lap.
To me that does make sense.
Spa on particular had team messages of “use your head now” and responses of “are we both doing it here” at the same point on the circuit regularly too.
It sounds like funny business to me, like they had to do something to protect the underfloor from grounding out and getting too much wear.
There's probably many factors contributing here. Checo's car definitely looks more nervous on power on exits and some of the curbs just seem to unsettle the car. It could be a setup difference on top of the confidence issues Perez has at this point, as well as how not comfortable he is with this pointy car that Max just loves
If you had to use all the new softs to get to Q3 on 1st or 2nd fastest car, it's already says a lot
Its the fastest by far mate...still
@@maurizioarrivabene8182I don't think so, McLaren is definitely faster later in races.
@@petri2767 thats the difference. You think, but i know. Did you watch qualifying? Norris only got close because RB fucked up his pitstop
@@maurizioarrivabene8182 Wrong, Lando was easily faster as the McLaren is dominant in longer stints and lower fuel
@@petri2767 Nope. Verstappen got away by 8 seconds on like 20 laps. Then he started managing tyres. Why did Noris get him at the end? Because of the bad pit stop and chosen tyre.
title should be why is perez much slower than verstappen
We saw yesterday why they won't put a fast driver next to max in red bull. Anyone who can get close enough to challenge max he turns into crashstappen. We saw it with ricciardo before at red bull. So they keep a mid driver like checo there to please max
@@andrewmelton2686thing is, this is only one race and you’re one of maxs biggest haters
@@ibrahimalatrash8008 he's in love with Hamilton so what did you expect he can't stop crying about Max succees
@@andrewmelton2686 We also saw yesterday what happens when you give a fast car to incompetent driver. Lando tried to be extra aggressive so he can redeem himself for getting schooled in the sprint race by max.
@AndrewR3tarderMelton neither you or the guy above you even presented a counter argument to what i said so shhh
This is just sad man, at the start of last season, Checo was in pretty good form, winning taces on pace and competing with Max and Charles for poles.
I guess Miami and Monaco really broke him.
it didnt break him? losing races wont break a racing driver the car just made developments through the season and it falls out of checos control watch albons interview that car is insanely difficult to drive
This comparison is becoming a habit on this channel😊
yes but I dislike it.
perez really need to step his game up
There's only going back past a certain age
unfortunatelly it seems that there is no next level to his game.
@@PozzaPizz
He is only 34
@@PozzaPizz Its about confidence, which he has non. If he felt at home in the car he would be fast.
@@oransjballwhich was why he was so good in the Aston martin before redbull saved him
This is the best F1 TH-cam channel. Your analyses are brilliant. Thank you!
1:18 Verstappen drives the way Jim Clark said he does aka different. I remember an interview where Jim Clark said he is a front slider while everyone else is rear happy. Front slider aka understeer drivers enter corners with much greater car control and hence can get on the gas sooner. Look at how Max, brakes earlier and then look at how much more steering lock he adds in compared to Perez. This extra steering lock reduces the grip slightly at the fronts giving the front slider ease Jim Clark spoke about. Perez has to add in steering lock at the end of the turn just as he is adding in power making rear squirrel quite a bit.
i think checo was running higher downforce because his straight line speed was lower than max and he did have a slightly higher minimum speed in some corners even though he lost out in them
If so he still breaks earlier
@@vxVexom oh for sure im saying if he had lower speed in some corners and broke earlier while running higher downforce its even more embarrassing
Mr Yelistener. Could you make a video comparison between max vs sainz in Austria T3 (shown a couple videos back) and the incident between max and norris T3?
Quite comparible and pretty compelling!
(Also extra views because of the drame ;)
Why did they gave him a contract extension? He's not the same since that crash at the 2023 monaco gp.
He's Max's wingman. But he's not even good enough to do that properly. He's supposed to be good enough to run 2nd to Max in every race to hold off the rest of the field. But he's just too slow. He's not good enough to maximize the RB20's performance. He would be better suited to a slower car. The RB20 is just too fast for him.
Sponsorship, that can be the only explanation at this point.
Could be that they use his sponsors to pay Max’s salary.
I don't think Perez is or was a bad driver. he had some insane performances. Max has always destroyed his teammates and once they leave Red Bull they start performing really well. Alex was even considered for the Mercedes but was even worse compared to Max than Perez. Gasly is one of the fastest and people praised Ricciardo in his Renault days. Max can do things in a Red Bull that nobody else can. it is a question mark as to whether he can do it in a different car. And that's probably one reason he committed to Red Bull till 28'
Ricciardo was praised more in his Redbull days. He remains the only person to beat Max consistently. I remember in 2018, Ric had an issue every race, with like 8 DNFs, most of them engine related and he still somehow ended up only 50 points behind Max. I think it's more a case that the other teammates Max has had were mentally broken as Redbull have built their team around Verstappen. Same as they did with Vettel.
@@gauravmalltarlok5354
79 points
watched the entire 2018 season, Ricciardo had some crazy bad luck with reliability, man was the only one who could beat or match max consistently, but that was 6 years ago now.
Max and Ricciardo have the driving style, max even adapted from Ricciardo's original way when he joined red bull. Ricciardo had a great renault 2020 but his peaks were at red bull. if they ever put him back, he will be closer to max than perez is
@@gauravmalltarlok5354 Yah they wanted Ric to lose. Even when Max would run into Ric, they'd blame Ric still.
I might get bad comments from this, but... Bro, i love your channel, but (as a Mexican) i hate to see that 1/5 videos are about Checo's bad performance (and i agree he is performing bad, it hurts). I mean... i don't see any videos about why Sargeant never beats Albon (i know it just happened in austria), but i think there's something against Checo, or the fact that most of the videos are about the top cars. I don't know if is that, i just have a feeling. Anyways, i hope Checo's performance improves, and see you review that...
sargeant is only 2 tenths to 3 tenths off albon, perez is like almost a second behind him. the criticism is warranted
There is nothing against Checo, right now he just sucks, and I really like the guy, but when *you're in the fastest car of the grid* (arguably the McLaren is faster now, but for the last 3 years the Bull has been the fastest) and you're in any other position than 2nd (Max is a driving machine), and being completely obliterated by drivers in *way slower cars* (ignore Austria, he has sucked in *a lot* of races agianst slower oponents) it shows that *the driver is the issue* so the criticism is very well deserved right now, hell even on Mercs dominant years you almost always saw Hamilton and Bottas fighting each other unless the "tradition" happened and Bottas was screwed, or the "Valttery, it's James" moments and again, Bottas was somehow screwed lol
There are several reasons for sure. One is that comparing top drivers brings a lot more views than comparing backmarkers. Another one is that Checo hasn't always been slow, which makes his predicament more interesting. Sargeant, on the other hand, has never been quick in a F1 car. Bottas vs. Zhou is in the same category. Bottas is completely obliterating Zhou this season, but while Zhou has been better than Sargeant, he's never looked very quick either.
Nobody cares about mid pack runners like Sargeant and Albon. Max is up from every race and Perez has the same car. While everyone still expects Max to outperform him, the expectation is that Perez should be closer in performance. He should consistently be getting podium finishes and he doesn't. He's finishing 1/2 lap behind and generally not even in the top 5. 1/2 second per lap doesn't sound like much but its over 30 seconds by the end of the race.
It's embarrassing when you finish behind your teammate even when they lose a tire and have to pit.
Even worse: He finished behind a Haas lol
@@ancalitesWell, We can accept the fact Haas is having a better car to fight for points and, sure, it will fight when can.
Last time, was Alpine the headache, but not a single dent this time.
I'm aware it's hard to root for Perez nowadays due to his lack of pace.
Perez did have a hole in his sidepod the entire race
@@timokho20 Do you know how he had it?
@@GaloGaloso he purposely ran Piastri off the road but slammed his sidepod into the McLaren's front tire while he was at it, scoring an own goal for the entire rest of his race while Piastri ended up 2nd
Hello
can you make a frame by frame review/ comparison on Max lando incident
lap 59, 63, 64
Perez is clearly driving a different spec car. He can be on the throttle all corners n still slower. His sponsors r wasting their investments with RB.
or he is just not able to drive the car to the limit lol why would they give him a worse car? sure maybe he gets updates after max but thats about it. They are about to fall behind in constructors and he is no match to max so no point in giving him a slower car.
This is a channel that every DTS fan should watch
An in depth analysis of Verstappen and Norris duel would be nice, especially the first norris overtake attempts (that are being overlooked by pretty much everybody) as i noticed a lot of turning under braking from verstappen, and that might be the reason of why norris started divebombing the laps later
Imagine had the best car only for being held back from least budget car (HAAS).
This is nuts. The difference in time is big but the difference in movements and reaction is so small.
also watch the wheel . Max is very quite in the inputs. And only makes adjustments when needing to
Now that i see that i'm not the only one who noticed the Perez bad permormance playlist on this channel, i have a suggestion... how about you cover sainz vs zhou in q1? It being the closest q1 in... i dont know how much long...
Welcome to another weekly "Why Perez Slow on this circuit" video.
Don't stop them coming.
Haas fought Perez.
Both made earlier pit stops and Perez was meant to overtake over and over again. For some reason, Perez did at last lap, but hulk got him again.
Hope I can see the onboard from this.
Checo did have some pretty serious aide pod damage during the race tho. Problem is he caused it lol and speeding in the pit lane
I'd love to see the telemetry of Verstappen and Norris's battles, to see if Max was or was t actually moving under braking.
It looks like Perez is braking at roughly the 125-meter mark from Turn 1, while Max brakes just past the 100-meter board. This is a significant difference in braking for Turn 1 alone as max can carry the speed down the straight.. Throughout the lap, Perez appears to brake for a longer duration (possibly with less force) than Max. Max seems to brake later and harder, achieve the rotation, and then get back on the power quicker than Perez. It would be great to see their telemetry data for this. Perez is just unable to get what Max can out of the car.
When do you recon we're getting an analysis of the crash? :)
Bizarre.
He goes down two gears which I imagine pushes him slightly wider.
Loses out mid corner, and then is far later on the accelerator in the final corner.
always wild as someone who doesn't follow the sport to see ".675" and destroyed in the same sentence, it's just like Olympic swimming- incredible how close it comes down to!
Congratulations to both Perez and Stroll. To one for staying in F1 solely because he only brings sponsors who pay a lot of money, and to the other solely because of his daddy who paid a lot of money to buy the team. 🙏
Can you please analyze the attacks from Norris into turn 3?
And Finished in a HAAS sandwich at the end of the weekend (great job by the HAAS duo by the way).
Perez is completely out of pace, even compared to himself, I don't know if it's the pressure of the season or the curse of the RBR second seat,but he is underperforming to a comparable level to his 2021 season (where he got defeated by Bottas,in the most inconsistent season for the Finnish driver on his Mercedes Stint).
In this case he had damage apparently.
@@caydenph2741the hole in the sidepod? But this video is about qualy.
What i find very interesting is what alex had to say about how the car handles because of max.
Max likes the car super pointy. Alex said it's like playing with super high sensitivity in an egoshooter. Max says he want's it even pointier. They make it pointier and he goes even faster. This cycle continues. Almost nobody else can drive a car with a handling like this so safely on the edge. So max and the car get faster, second pilot gets more and more uncomfy and looses confidence.
I don't know how true that is, i wasnt there, haven't driven the redbull, but it sounds realistic.
But IMHO a top driver in a top team should be able to adapt
@@KilianGosewisch
That's correct. The thing is that pointier cars are simply faster, it's not only Max taste, but also the most effective.
I don’t understand why some F1 drivers don’t understand this but the way you drive in qualifying as in the line you take is completely different to what you do in a race. Here you see the perfect example, Perez driving qualifying like the same what he does during races.
It struck me that all other 6 top team drivers qualified between Max and Checo. RB appears no longer the fastest car but Max outperforms it (until Lando catches up and friends shake wheels) while Checo may be more average in what he can pull out of it.
First of all, In the race Perez had a hole in the side pod causing unknown amounts of time lost, stated by Horner. Last year he had his Q2 time deleted at that 9 10 complex. Peter Windsor suggested after qualifying last year on his TH-cam channel; that Perez only needed to back off in 9 10 to make Q3. The car running wide is an issue for him there. In 2004 they showed no track limits Quali. laps and how the car naturally runs wide while gaining speed. The FIA only recently added these track limits rules. Perez is a corner arc driver 'of the past' know for the tire preservation. This rule is brutal as it restricts his line in the corners costing him time and wearing out the tires. His typical exit would have the tires as straight as possible cutting wear. That is becoming more of a problem. Rotating the back of the car is a new skill that drivers like Max have adapted to. Drivers like Vettel, drive like Perez and Vettel's career came to an end by not changing his driving style. Vettel would diamond the corners and lose time. To adapt to this new style, can mean getting massive oversteer and some drivers can't take it. The tires are now worse in the wear department, plus the cars are designed for this new era driver.
It's a shame they're going to change these cars, I'm loving them more each year, these cars have so much potential to be found yet.
Strange that turn one footage in slow motion shows max has more engine. Maybe he can handle it better but those accelerations do not look the same.
Any chance of being able to add a steering input graphic as well?
I don't think Perez is a great driver, but even he is not THAT bad. He drove other cars before, he was good. I firmly believe he and Verstapen don't get the same hardware.... there is no other explanation.
I disagree with the first part but everything else you said is correct
Red Bull doesn't want Perez to finish poorly, just behind Max. They aren't detuning his car to make less power. They want him to get a good finish too for the constructor's championship. He just doesn't maximize the performance of the car. He's a great driver but not the best one available. There are at least 5 other drivers in other rides that would be faster in that car. Norris and Piastri, both Ferrari drivers and Russell. Even old guys like Hamilton and Alonzo would probably be at least equal to Perez. I think a couple retired drivers would be faster. Vettel and Kimi if they were to compete again would both beat Perez in that car.
I dislike comparing Perez to Verstappen because Perez generally isn't doing well. Good analysis on your videos as always, we love that.
Why is Perez slower? Because he's Perez.
Redbull were ruthless when Gasly, Albon was underperforming compared to Max. What changed with Perez?
All of us are waiting for the next video on certain subject ;)
There must be something we don't know about red bull and Checo, that's why they are keeping him… Because that's almost unreal they would expand his contract if this performance was only by his mistakes.
Verstappen was really good during lifting and then maximum his throttling at the exit must be talented to feel the grip that he needs unlike checo does...
Max is a top driver but he will never have my respect because he vetoed a good driver like Carlos. ( Confirmed by RB GMBH that max asked them not to sign him and keep Perez and obviously team under pressure of losing him accepted the order) Hamilton never stopped Jenson or any other driver from joining. He was even allowing vettel to join the team.
Mark my words Carlos Sainz will be the next driver in that second Redbull car
And then in the race Verstappen gets a puncture a 10 second penalty and still finished in front of Perez who finished behind a Haas.
Another reason why he shouldn't get a 2 year contract extension.
I was always hopong to see a head to head between the 3 to better understand how Perez is so much slower than Max. Thanks!
Still don't get it though. Has Checo lost 3 steps or is Max just in a league of his own?
Unbelievable
I wonder what is going to happen when perez is out. Someone “a lot better” gets the seat and we see more of the same gaps between max and his teammate.
As Mark Webber once said when asked if his car was the same as Vettel's he smiled and said No two cars are the same and that's why Danny Ric left RB on top of the team blaming him for the 2018 crash with Verstappen when the stewards said it was a 50/50 one driver left his breaking too late and the other moved under breaking just like he was doing to Norris in Austria
Where is Perez from Suzuka? 😬
I feel that we will get more of this type of videos until the end of the season, Checo is over
rb give to perez a different setup... is not the same... 2 differents cars.. VER has more speed and slow corners than perez
Can we just accept the fact that Perez is literally a pay driver?
And again you can hear that they have very different engines.
😂😂😂😂
It's like Checo is scared to really drive the rb
verstappen always breaks early to let the car settle, then let go, and then breaks late.
?????????? check you sentence brother, he brakes early and then brakes late? that's not how braking works
@@TrocxVEVO you tap the break to let the car settle. then you break again. do you even drive brother?
@@TrocxVEVO maybe he means he brakes hard and then he soften the brakes entering the corner? tv doesnt show how much drivers brake anyway
To be almost 7 tenths off the pace at this level in same car on such a short lap time is just not good enough.
Anyone ever take into consideration that the car may not suit Checos driving style compared to Max?
i think in the last corner perez went to gravel for brief moment
RB should dump Perez immediately and put in Sainz, or Lawson. Perez has very low race intelligence, and more specific low intelligence on brakepoints ang throttle points. It is verstappen's specialism. Besides having a lot of confidence I don't understand why he doesn't copy Max's sublime technique. Perez is still a student
You must save a new soft for Q3. Its mandatory
It’s Not Mandatory, but it would be a very Good idea!
oh now i get it all.. it's brakes, Perez has smoother brakes maybe cause he asked so.. i mean if you look closely you can see that Max's braking is literally more efficient but that clearly makes the car much more difficult to drive... and we all know that Max likes that "pointy but quick" type of car.
So when an alien is driving it's no problem but for a human like Perez that's too much, so they must have made the brakes easier on the tyres so the car is more drivable, but also slower
Max drives short corners so he is always gonna go on throttle earlier, because he will always be done sooner rotating the car than Perez.
As a perez fan (he's definitely not confident in that car since he lost his confidence in monaco) and ofc max is a generational talent comparable to Senna Schumacher etc
No one said Perez had car damage like Hamilton at the end of the race.
But not during quali…which this video is about
this is qualifying fyi
@@twosnaksebut the video's author did mention at the end "Pérez got stuck behind a Haas" without giving any context so fuck that.
I think Perez is being very cautious while lifting the throttle as he might lose the rear & endup spinning...dts whr he is losing the speed & don't get the exit as expected... He already adapted the late braking frm daniel but he Shld try & adapt max racing style & build the car according to it... I knw he cnt beat max but can minimize the gap btwn him & max... Lets see...
Wrong. There is a new soft for everypne in Q3. Learn the sporting regulations first
Hot take: he has a contract already
Here you have a demonstration of how good the GP Lambiase engineering team are vs the mediocre Hugh Bird engineering team, how you gonna get confidence to push hard when the setup is shit?, no balance, no traction, understeery at the entrance, oversteery mid corner, FP1 complain, ignored, FP2 complain, ignored, FP3 complain, ignored, so far and so on is the same shit with Bird and his team
I would be surprised if Red Bull will win the Constructors' championship lol. Both McLaren are in good form lately this season.
This is going to a weekly thing I guess
Perez always blaming something other than himself.
Blame the car balance, blame other not giving enough space, blame for car damage
Verstappen isn't 6 tenth much faster than perez, i no idea how this
Verstappen breaks 20m later if you pause at t1
Hulk could keep him behind in a Haas. Says a lot...
Mick also could keep Verstappen behind in Silverstone 2022, does that means Verstappen is trash?
@@Wingo45 exactly, Columbo
I think even the Incredible Hulk in the car would keep up.
Perez both runs were on scrub soft. But still that doesn’t give him an excuse on his performances
This was. Q2 Lap…both are on NEW Softs!
Checo needs a therapy.
I'd say swap cars and then see what happens.....
Perez has been beaten by an Alpine and a Haas in 2 separate races..
Compare it with 2020s midfield or slowest car pole , 2024 wins it
Same car? I doubt
This is the proof that no one can drive the RedBull car like Verstappen and also that the car is designed for his needs. I don't think Perez is underperforming that much, but rather that Verstappen is "overperforming". All the difference was that Verstappen was earlier with the throttle at the exit of the turns. I think if Red Bull designed a car for Perez needs, he would be quicker but the car would hardly fights for pole positions.
The only one that could drive at Verstappen level would be Alonso.
I honestly don’t want Perez at red bull anymore
the question can much simplier, why Perez is much slower than Verstappen ? lol
I think the thing is that he has no confidence in himself and his car.
Its really simple. Perez is not Verstappen.
give perez a car that suits him more than it suits max and he’ll beat max like he’s proven before. max is rb’s golden boy so everything is designed to max’s preferences and not perez’s hence the gap in performances. it’s really that simple.
Delusional
😂😂
Incorrect. An oversteery car will be faster than an understeery car, so Red Bull built the fastest car they could up with, which is geared more to oversteer. But an oversteer car is a lot harder to drive than an understeer car. Max likes oversteer more than understeer, so Max sets it up for oversteer. Perez can’t drive an oversteer car, so he sets it up for understeer, which is slower. Max is way faster than Checo because he’s able to get the most out of the car, but even if he were to set up for more understeer like Checo, he would still beat Checo because he’s just better, but he wouldn’t win by as big of a margin as he is right now, because he would be making his car slower by setting it up for more understeer like Checo is. It’s that simple. Red Bull isn’t favoring Max or Checo, they are building the fastest car they can, which Max is able to drive and Perez isn’t, so Perez has to set up the car a different way which makes it slower. It’s not Max’s fault, it’s not Red Bull’s fault (except for giving Perez an extension, dumbest decision ever), it is Checos fault for not being able to adapt to different driving styles. Max can, Perez can’t. That simple.
I watch videos why Perez is slower after every race weekend.
He failed again vs Hulkenberg
Because he is paid. He chilling 😎😎😎
Yes but what is Perez's issue? This car is said to be less harder and sharp to drive. So in theory Perez should have improved even more since last year. So what exactly is the issue now?
Their cars are different!!!!
There is a different nut behind the steering wheel.