The girlfriend also gaslit Ren and said, "Imagine how this would affect him if Kujo had mental health issues" directly to Ren. Like Ren hadn't literally just completed treatment for brain damage.
Girlfriend, in writing, in an email, ( which is a legally 'discoverable' document / piece of evidence in a court ) threatened to 'Kneecap' Ren! She also, allegedly, tried a bit of 'Creative editing ' with the original document, which I believe the Law also regards as document / evidence tampering & forgery! These people are not the Brightest sparks in the fire. Meanwhile; TH-cam has been closely watching this mess unfold. The CEO actually got involved. ( there's a pic somewhere of him with Ren) and the original Sick Boi is fully back up on all platforms. YEAH! Copyright Strikes are there to PROTECT Original Artists & their works - not to be used as threats or Blackmail or extortion attemps against them! I hope Ren goes after Kujo legally for this as well as all losses damages & costs, but even if he doesn't- I hope TH-cam does for illegally triggering the Copyright Strike. They need to set a Precedent - & a Detterent - against other like-minded Parasites. I hope Kujo's lawyer gets slammed as well. You can bet 1) they went after Ren, as an Indie Artist, assuming he was unprotected by the teams of corporate lawyers that big Label signed artists are & 2) they never intended to get as far as a court hearing , where clearly they would lose, but to just pressure (bully) him to fold. To give them a cut of his profits- just to get them off his back - which (& this makes my blood boil even More!) he very nearly did. Sewer scum like these need to learn that there are consequences for their actions.
I love the double head tap at the end. In my family, that is a last warning. The girlfriend actually threatened to break Rens' knees, so she deserves the same as Kujo. Dotta did a full reaction to this as well. He loved it
The girlfriend wrote entire new passages into the Beatstars contract saying Ren was in charge of clearing samples & then posted it on Reddit. I honestly think he’s madder at her than Kujo, because that was designed deliberately to hurt Ren’s public image. Something that really hasn’t been in much of the discussion is that it was an actual BEATSTARS REPRESENTATIVE that advised Kujo to do all this. Kujo wasn’t paying for any of it, but I’m sure this cost Ren a good bit for the lawyers fees. Great reaction! 💜
I got that too, but the weird thing is that Ren is also saying the he is getting help from Beatstars... the lawyer for Kujo wasnt a representative, maybe connected, or linked or....
No no no we don’t want anyone going after Kujo. Ren can clearly handle his own battles. We just here to support and uplift Ren but also to fully ignore Kujo. So happy you’re both here! We’ve missed you! ❤❤❤
This Diss Track was as Cathartic for Ren's fans, as it was for Ren. This needed to happen, the outrage amongst Renegades is palatable and this Track does much to quench that Outrage.
His girlfriend put herself into the situation, she even wrote up a false contract and also threatened to go to Britain and break Ren's kneecaps. She made her bed.
As I understand it the GF went as far as posting a falsified Beat Stars contract to "prove" that it was Ren, and not Kujo, who was in breach of contract. Absolute BS and shady AF. Tbh, she inserted herself into the narrative and, by spreading lies, put her own head on the block. Shame.
Hey guy's I noticed that your Ren playlist is missing one of Ren's best recent collab's. You both need to react to: Chris Webby - "Baggage (feat. Ren)" 🔥🔥🔥🔥 The video is deep AF and the song is a BANGER!!!! Ren has got one of his best Rap schemes I've heard from Ren yet, & as an audio engineer IT'LL TICKEL YOUR EARS 😁. Plus, the vocals from Ren & Webby are KILLER as well. Also, you haven't heard Ren in this genre yet, it's got this Southern Rock/Rap vibe. You both need to get it up on your channel ASAP. *FYI* Webby just announce that he's going to do what Ren has been doing all along (White List all reactors). This is so you can monetize all your reactions from Webby's entire play list, just like Ren has been allowing all this time. Cheers to you both. 🍻
I was watching for you two to react to this one... SO GLAD you did! I've heard this referred to as a lyrical Weapon of Mass Destruction🔥🔥🔥 Ty for showing your support to Ren ❤️ 🥳 Happy Birthday 🥳
Happy birthday Jeremy (I hope I spelt it right). My daughter went to school with Ren here in North Wales 🏴. We do not take any crap lying down round here so I’m not at all surprised Ren went after Kujo and his girlfriend. The thing is it’s so brilliantly done, he is a genius. Point of interest Ren’s girlfriend is in the far left of the choir in background. The two actors playing Kujo & gf are Ren’s mates
An interesting side note, Dotta has actually publicly admitted on one of his recent livestreams that he is now a Renegade. He has been assimilated! Ren has announced that there will be more music coming out in September, so be on the lookout!
Absolute brilliant case of you can't reason with stupid I mean for pity sake Ren offered to work with the dipsh*t on a brand new song and split everything incl. master 50/50 and he _turned it down_ ok now... the girlfriend was lovely and nice and understanding in DM but then the next day went out on Reddit and absolutely twisted the crap out of it to the point where she fabricated a paragraph from the 'contract' and said that in the chat with her Ren was a bit of an arsehole... the girl stepped into the hornets nest on her own and deserves to get stung. Anyway... Ren is obviously an amazing master of the English language but one of the things that I actually really appreciate Ren showing a little of his humanity- he is just always so reasonable and imho one of the sharpest cuts was 'I'm the subject matter, you're just part of the scenery' - thanks guys :-) I stumbled on you all ages back as a Homefry (yup my music taste is really eclectic) and I love your reactions! Take care and stay cool down there!
EXCELLENT comment, and awesome to see you again, friend!!! Yeah, this situation is damn frustrating and we can only hope Ren ends up on top. We just hate he has to deal with this sh&*(t - such a great guy and so incredibly talented, this is the last thing he needs.
Been waiting for this! I know that y’all film so much that the brand new ones are hard to get to…. Now Ren doesn’t want his fans going after Kujo, since there is still legal stuff going on. And the girlfriend was nice for a while, and then threatened to have Ren’s kneecaps broken. 18:56
REEEEBBBBBBEEECCCAAA!!!! Love seeing you on Ren comments!!! Look at you having all the deets - get it girl!!! Thanks for the info - that just pisses us off even more (about the girlfriend / kneecap situation) ❤️🥷🏻
So true. She best watch these “threats” in the form of banter, her ass is going to get sued for harassment. Knowing how classy Ren is, unlikely…but definitely a possibility.
The good part of my heart hopes that there isn't a part two but that is only if kujo and his girl try to sort this out peacefully, but the dark part of my heart wants them to say something.
Absolutely, I want this in the past for Ren’s sake. He’s so excited about the life he has now, and ahead of him. This was so fcking exhilarating, though! Whatever happens; I’m always proud of our boi. Fun reaction guys. Thanks for supporting Ren. 😉💙✌️
Dotta quadrupled his followers after their diss-exchange :-) He watched the Beat Down premiere on his live stream and was totally pleased about the shout out 😄
Happy birthday Jeremy. Great reaction. I think Kujo's girlfriend deserved this as much as he did, for the reasons people have mentioned here. I really liked the symbolism of the choir (the stolen sample) dying, because the song is gone. The guy playing Kujo is Kai Lacey from Ren's team. He did a fantastic job, even shaved his head for the role. He is also the bass player in the Back On 74/Message In A Bottle video.
@@sharoncarlisle9453 yoooooo the CHOIR!!!! I totally didn’t catch that symbolism!! Absolutely genius! Thanks for pointing that out. And thank you for the birthday wishes!
Happy belated bithday🎉 you guys are only just now in my algoritme. 😁 Hope to see you do more Ren. He has great collabs with Prof "pain salesman" and Chris Webby "bagage"...both are featuring Ren so it's up on their youtube pages...can't find if you guys reacties to those 2 songs...🙈
OMG I love this!!! Every reaction I am seeing is the best ever :) KUJO...I am sorry you are the lesson...but you had several chances. I want part 2!!!!
I don’t think I will ever quite understand how it all went from Kujo selling a beat with a stolen sample and the owners getting in touch for the publishing money they’re owed to then somehow escalating into Kujo and his lawyer using a mistake made by others, not Ren himself, to demand money from Ren as if he was the thief. It’s like there’s a huge gap and I suspect it’s between Kujo’s ears 👀 But at least we got this righteous rage! Ren showed us exactly what happens when you push the nicest guy in the industry too far… he needed to let the anger out somehow and boy did he do just that 🔥 Ren just made history! Our sick boi was wronged and the hype to see him release his anger was insane. Pretty sure there was like twice the amount of people in chat for the premiere than we’ve seen before and so many reactors heard his call for support ❤️ It’s interesting that the community is so passionate because of how genuinely nice Ren is, yet we all LOVE seeing this side of him 😂 But as much as we love it and would love a part 2, for Ren’s sake I hope this is the end of it. He’s been through enough over this and just wants to move on 🖤
Just to add.. the gf also said she would break Ren's kneecaps at one point sort of 'jokingly'. But as Ren pointed out, if he had said it he would've been berated for it. This is why Ren said she liked it 'rough'.
We just love REN’s snap back. Honestly, he could likely sue just for that “threat”, just goes to show he’s so much more intelligent than those two idiots.
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. As much as I would love another piece of art from Ren on this situation it would mean that it hasn’t been resolved. And as someone who’s had to deal with people who create problems, REFUSE to participate or cooperate in a solution and then play the victims - while you have your hands tied because even defending yourself is used against you, I hope that this gets worked out asap. Unfortunately lawyers are involved and they usually end up being the real winners. ( What would have cost me about $600 in court + filing fees ended up costing $60K+ in attorneys fees alone- and years of stress and anxiety and actual ptsd. And health problems ending with a brain bleed. )
Love this comment, although we despise knowing you had to deal with a legal mess. Your perspective is spot on - part 2 means unresolved. This is just a really annoying “blip” in the timeline of life. Hope it gets resolved immediately.
Edit to add, Sick Boi is back up (for now)!!!! I use the analogy of buying chicken from a manufacturer. You come up with a million dollar recipe for that chicken. You sell that now cooked chicken in your recipe, and the manufacturer of the chicken comes for you and wants some of your income from the recipe. They feel entitled to more money because you're making a ton more than the manufacturer made.
He mistook REN’s kindness for weakness. He was given a greedy lawyer by Beat Stars. The girlfriend said she would break Ren’s beautiful kneecaps so she can get it. Ren using this to get the negative energy out.
The first video was more damning. Who is going to work with Kujo after this? I mean....even Ren's haters are on his side, here. Kujo got the internet to agree on something... I guess.
It’s a damn shame, really. It seems Kujo didn’t have any rational advice from an actual adult. The girlfriend getting involved was just more immaturity and bad decision making.
@@musikbyjh There are producers that would give anything to work with Ren. Yeah..Kujo hasn't a single honest friend. A good friend would've slapped him upside the head. Tragic.
The girlfriend also wrote a passage "from the contract" on reddit (I believe) which was entirely falsified, so his rage with her is definitely justified too! 🔥
Honestly, isn't that ILLEGAL. She could be sued for falsifying legal documentation. This kind of idiot moves just validates the lack of clear decision making from that camp.
How is she not getting sued for illegally modifying that contract, then broadcasting the false language on the internet?!?! That can get her in some real legal trouble. Just goes to show the immaturity and lack of clear decision making, honestly.
There's been radio silence from the Kujo camp for quite a while now. Ren also mentioned that Kujo didn't utter a word during a mediation call they held, even when Ren addressed questions directly to him. Instead Kujo's lawyer spoke on his behalf throughout the call. That there and his continued silence tells me Kujo is 100% now acting wholly under legal advise. Walking away from Ren's offer of collaborating and the potential that opportunity presents, appears on the surface at least, like career suicide. There's the obvious financial earnings a collaboration would generate, but the marketing and industry exposure has the potential to be far more lucrative for him, now and well into the future. I maybe and hope that I'm wrong here, but I think this is going in a whole other direction now. Why would he knock that back? It's so shortsighted and downright stupidity. Unless he's been advised he could come out with a whole lot more than just royalties. That could be numerous lawsuits filed for things like deformation, incitement with intent, emotional damages etc etc. I frigging hope not but lawyers are lawyers and greed is their bread and butter.
Great reaction - pity you didn´t know all before, like why he´s so angry with the GF (clarified in other comments) - but still great and full of love for Ren. Late happy birthday (= "Gelukkige verjaardag") from Belgium, Jeremy!
Great reaction, sub from me, Renegades are out in force supporting the reactors straight back. The GF threatened (jokingly apparently) to smash Ren's kneecaps in one of their exchanges and after their seemingly amicable behind the scenes conversation, next day she was on Reddit bad-mouthing again and posted a made up part of the Beat Stars contract which Ren can now use legally against them as it's literally illegal and defamation etc...I have no doubt that Ren and his team have collected enough evidence to go after both of them for defamation of character and straight out lying about the contract. Does he want to do that? No, he's still saying he wants to resolve this, if Kujo comes forward, owns his shit they can move on (think it was in his Twitch post-premier feed that he said that), he's still got the door one for this dude to apologise and make it right. I love the irony too; it was a genius move taking Sick Bi down, now Kujo cannot make any money from it going forward, even if he did win anything legally (AR covers this in his reaction). Also, and I love this, Ren and his team plus reactors are going to make a tonne of money (I know that's not the point of the diss track) and who provided the subject matter, yet is only 'part of the scenery', and will make NOTHING form this at all, yeah, Kujo!! pmsl
I don’t know this story at all, but it seems as though REN is stating his point. It was understandably intense. I hope it all works out. Thanks for helping out with the details. 🎶 Cyd
Great reaction/analysis. As for Kujo's motivation, I think it's actually because he'd have to pay all the royalties to the company that owns the sample. So everything sick boi makes, Kujo would have to pay that company money, even though Kujo only got a flat fee when he (illegally) sold it. Clearly his fault, but I don't think the motivation is him getting more money for himself, but rather because he screwed up and is liable for paying for it. So with Sick Boi being taken down, he actually helps Kujo as well. Sucks for Ren, but it was actually nice of Ren to take it down because it lets Kujo off the hook for his mistake.
Ren has just announced that Sick Boi is no longer copyrighted as YT has rightly deemed it an illegal strike. It may be removed later if Ren does remake it without the KUJO sample.
After that lovely conversation Ren had with the girlfriend, the next day she posted falsified contracts on Ren's reddit saying it was his responsibility to clear all samples (clearly false). That's a defamation lawsuit right there so.. yeah. Apparently the people in white represent the Bulgarian choir and they die at the end because without their sample the song Sick Boi is dead (I read this from someone else's comment). I think he said in his earlier post and his comment on this video that he would sue their asses off as part two if this isn't the end of it.
I don't think that Kujo ever imagined that Ren would actually remove Sick Boi from his catalog. Like, he couldn't conceive of this possibility, that Ren would be willing to lose money to prevent Kujo from getting a bigger piece than he originally contracted for. It was a master stroke on Ren's part, because it neutralizes Kujo's threats, and because ultimately Ren will probably wind up making MORE money. But I know it hurt Ren to take that song away, it meant a lot to him. Regarding the girlfriend, Ren posted a statement addressing some pushback he was getting from people about the language he used towards/about the girlfriend. He said that the "likes it rough" part was referencing her threat to break his kneecaps (I think she said this in jest, but it's still a wildly inappropriate thing to say in the middle of a legal dispute), and that he used the word "slut" as more of an insult to Kujo than to the girlfriend: "I was trying to think of the thing that would get under my skin the most if I was Kujo, and it wouldn't be any kind of insult about my character, it would be an insult about someone I loved." Ren also said, "I gotta state for the record as a man raised in a family of amazing women after my dad left, I don't condone this kind of behaviour in real life, and I have to point out that this is fiction!"
I feel sorry for Ren's friend who had to take the angry Ren screaming at him. Kai is doing great through it all. Kai played the bass guitar in the song from message in a bottle.
Ahhhhhh!!! Now we know Kai, thanks for helping us connect the dots. Honestly, Kai was probably pumped (even while Ren unleashed on him while acting), because his friend can let out all the rage in a safe way. This was masterfully done, once again!!
The girlfriend also gaslit Ren and said, "Imagine how this would affect him if Kujo had mental health issues" directly to Ren. Like Ren hadn't literally just completed treatment for brain damage.
Just shows how ignorant they both are.
Also threatened to kneecap Ren. Glad got her's too
Girlfriend, in writing, in an email, ( which is a legally 'discoverable' document / piece of evidence in a court ) threatened to 'Kneecap' Ren!
She also, allegedly, tried a bit of 'Creative editing ' with the original document, which I believe the Law also regards as document / evidence tampering & forgery! These people are not the Brightest sparks in the fire. Meanwhile; TH-cam has been closely watching this mess unfold. The CEO actually got involved. ( there's a pic somewhere of him with Ren) and the original Sick Boi is fully back up on all platforms. YEAH!
Copyright Strikes are there to PROTECT Original Artists & their works - not to be used as threats or Blackmail or extortion attemps against them! I hope Ren goes after Kujo legally for this as well as all losses damages & costs, but even if he doesn't- I hope TH-cam does for illegally triggering the Copyright Strike.
They need to set a Precedent - & a Detterent - against other like-minded Parasites.
I hope Kujo's lawyer gets slammed as well. You can bet 1) they went after Ren, as an Indie Artist, assuming he was unprotected by the teams of corporate lawyers that big Label signed artists are &
2) they never intended to get as far as a court hearing , where clearly they would lose, but to just pressure (bully) him to fold. To give them a cut of his profits- just to get them off his back - which (& this makes my blood boil even More!) he very nearly did.
Sewer scum like these need to learn that there are consequences for their actions.
Mental health should never be weaponised to manipulate others.
I love the double head tap at the end. In my family, that is a last warning. The girlfriend actually threatened to break Rens' knees, so she deserves the same as Kujo. Dotta did a full reaction to this as well. He loved it
I also interpret as an "I own you know, boy" gesture
Ren handled all this perfectly as possible. Way better and in a healthier way than most would have.
So true, friend. So true.
The fact that WE ARE ALL HOPING for part 2, and Ren hopes it does not... Shows the difference.. ;)
Agree!!🥰🫶💖🎵🎶💜🔮☮️
I totally agree. REN handled it in the best way possible and created another masterpiece. Viva REN!
The RENegades are pissed, but Ren made it clear that he will deal with the situation.
The girlfriend wrote entire new passages into the Beatstars contract saying Ren was in charge of clearing samples & then posted it on Reddit. I honestly think he’s madder at her than Kujo, because that was designed deliberately to hurt Ren’s public image.
Something that really hasn’t been in much of the discussion is that it was an actual BEATSTARS REPRESENTATIVE that advised Kujo to do all this. Kujo wasn’t paying for any of it, but I’m sure this cost Ren a good bit for the lawyers fees.
Great reaction! 💜
I have many questions regarding these issues but don't want to bring it up here. Not my business.
@@francesdoll4039yet you did bring it up here
I got that too, but the weird thing is that Ren is also saying the he is getting help from Beatstars... the lawyer for Kujo wasnt a representative, maybe connected, or linked or....
@@larka742 i suspect the issues are delicate right now. I don't want to upset the Apple cart for Ren. Mt first thought was that heads may roll.
@@francesdoll4039Same here. It like you, we don’t want to rock any boats in the thick of this fight.
No no no we don’t want anyone going after Kujo. Ren can clearly handle his own battles. We just here to support and uplift Ren but also to fully ignore Kujo.
So happy you’re both here! We’ve missed you! ❤❤❤
I like the Jimmy in the cookie jar referring to mg3
This Diss Track was as Cathartic for Ren's fans, as it was for Ren. This needed to happen, the outrage amongst Renegades is palatable and this Track does much to quench that Outrage.
His girlfriend put herself into the situation, she even wrote up a false contract and also threatened to go to Britain and break Ren's kneecaps. She made her bed.
so true.
As I understand it the GF went as far as posting a falsified Beat Stars contract to "prove" that it was Ren, and not Kujo, who was in breach of contract. Absolute BS and shady AF. Tbh, she inserted herself into the narrative and, by spreading lies, put her own head on the block. Shame.
Shame is right. Absolutely ludicrous.
She also threatened to knee-cap Ren.
As Lou Reed sang "you're gonna reap just what you sow" ...
This was Amazing 😍!
Hey guy's I noticed that your Ren playlist is missing one of Ren's best recent collab's. You both need to react to:
Chris Webby - "Baggage (feat. Ren)" 🔥🔥🔥🔥 The video is deep AF and the song is a BANGER!!!! Ren has got one of his best Rap schemes I've heard from Ren yet, & as an audio engineer IT'LL TICKEL YOUR EARS 😁. Plus, the vocals from Ren & Webby are KILLER as well. Also, you haven't heard Ren in this genre yet, it's got this Southern Rock/Rap vibe.
You both need to get it up on your channel ASAP.
*FYI* Webby just announce that he's going to do what Ren has been doing all along (White List all reactors). This is so you can monetize all your reactions from Webby's entire play list, just like Ren has been allowing all this time.
Cheers to you both. 🍻
Thanks for the great suggestions! We def will add these.
I also hope it gets resolved, BUT, I LOVE, seeing a good man stand up.
This young man is fantastic ❤❤
She threatened to break his knee caps wrote fake contracts to screen shot and make Ren look bad.
Hey friend!!! So good to see you 😊. Hearing this just makes our blood BOIL. Best not try and mess with “our” Ren!!! 🤬
@@musikbyjh Agreed! We are something else.
Aww I must have missed your notification I was waiting to see your thoughts 😊 I know you support Ren. ❤️✌️
Thanks for supporting Ren 👍❤
Sick boi is free 🎉🎉 thanks for supporting Ren ❤ and that little slap slap at the end 😂❤
Incredible performance by Ren. Great reaction. Thanks for supporting Ren.
Happy belated birthday! Thanks for continuing to support our bestest Sick Boi 🥹💜💜💜
Always!
The needy & the greedy!
Love Ren!
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I was watching for you two to react to this one... SO GLAD you did! I've heard this referred to as a lyrical Weapon of Mass Destruction🔥🔥🔥
Ty for showing your support to Ren ❤️
🥳 Happy Birthday 🥳
Thank you x 2, Sara!!!! So sweet of you!
I've seen someone refer to it as a musical Weapon of Ass Destruction 😂
@@daphneparkin6869😂😂
Thank you for supporting Ren
Always!
Happy birthday Jeremy (I hope I spelt it right). My daughter went to school with Ren here in North Wales 🏴. We do not take any crap lying down round here so I’m not at all surprised Ren went after Kujo and his girlfriend. The thing is it’s so brilliantly done, he is a genius. Point of interest Ren’s girlfriend is in the far left of the choir in background. The two actors playing Kujo & gf are Ren’s mates
We didn’t know this - thank you!! And welcome, our North Wales mate!!
She threatened to have Ren's legs broken!
She better watch what she says on the internet. That “banter” can get her sued for harassment. 💯
He's Renraged! 😊
LOLOL!! Love your sense of humor ❤️🥷🤘🏽
An interesting side note, Dotta has actually publicly admitted on one of his recent livestreams that he is now a Renegade. He has been assimilated! Ren has announced that there will be more music coming out in September, so be on the lookout!
Good!!!
And also Michelle show has given in to the inevitable!
Kujo, he has no side. He's now toxic in the music industry.
This was so well done. Ren and Samuel 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Absolute brilliant case of you can't reason with stupid I mean for pity sake Ren offered to work with the dipsh*t on a brand new song and split everything incl. master 50/50 and he _turned it down_ ok now... the girlfriend was lovely and nice and understanding in DM but then the next day went out on Reddit and absolutely twisted the crap out of it to the point where she fabricated a paragraph from the 'contract' and said that in the chat with her Ren was a bit of an arsehole... the girl stepped into the hornets nest on her own and deserves to get stung. Anyway... Ren is obviously an amazing master of the English language but one of the things that I actually really appreciate Ren showing a little of his humanity- he is just always so reasonable and imho one of the sharpest cuts was 'I'm the subject matter, you're just part of the scenery' - thanks guys :-) I stumbled on you all ages back as a Homefry (yup my music taste is really eclectic) and I love your reactions! Take care and stay cool down there!
EXCELLENT comment, and awesome to see you again, friend!!! Yeah, this situation is damn frustrating and we can only hope Ren ends up on top. We just hate he has to deal with this sh&*(t - such a great guy and so incredibly talented, this is the last thing he needs.
#Renagades Elastic bands only stretch so far and then SNAP!!!
Very true, friend!
Been waiting for this! I know that y’all film so much that the brand new ones are hard to get to…. Now Ren doesn’t want his fans going after Kujo, since there is still legal stuff going on. And the girlfriend was nice for a while, and then threatened to have Ren’s kneecaps broken. 18:56
REEEEBBBBBBEEECCCAAA!!!! Love seeing you on Ren comments!!! Look at you having all the deets - get it girl!!! Thanks for the info - that just pisses us off even more (about the girlfriend / kneecap situation) ❤️🥷🏻
Justin Hawkins had the best adjective for the girlfriend and it was "duplicitous".
It's great to see that Ren has Justin on his side ✌❤🐦.
So true. She best watch these “threats” in the form of banter, her ass is going to get sued for harassment. Knowing how classy Ren is, unlikely…but definitely a possibility.
Great reaction loved it ☺️
worth to watch Dotta's reaction on this.
he almost cried..
Wait whaaaaattt?? Dotta cried about this happening to Ren, or? We must go check it out…thanks for the heads up!
@@musikbyjh then you got to check and Michelle Show reaction..
he announced that he turn if full Renegade mode.
@@musikbyjh both links.
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Happy birthday for yesterday 🎉
Beautiful work
Happy late birthday!
Thank you!!
Very few have pointed this out lol but his childlike skip gets me every time!!! 🙌 Ren slayed this! So many references 🔥
The good part of my heart hopes that there isn't a part two but that is only if kujo and his girl try to sort this out peacefully, but the dark part of my heart wants them to say something.
Oh Eddie, we feel the exact same. 💯
Absolutely, I want this in the past for Ren’s sake. He’s so excited about the life he has now, and ahead of him. This was so fcking exhilarating, though! Whatever happens; I’m always proud of our boi. Fun reaction guys. Thanks for supporting Ren. 😉💙✌️
Again,thank you for your heartfelt reactions!!!🫶🫶💖💖🎵🎶💜💜
Dotta quadrupled his followers after their diss-exchange :-) He watched the Beat Down premiere on his live stream and was totally pleased about the shout out 😄
Loved your discussion. You both seem in a really good place, I guess the birthday went well - so pleased for you 🌻🌻
Thanks so much! 😊
❤from D in the UK 🇬🇧 Great breakdown!
Ren can find his way into more pockets than the Artful Dodger. Has more flows than class 5 rapids.
LOL! Love it Eric!! 🤘🏽
Happy belated🎉🎉🎉🎉
Love your shirt and absolutely perfect for this video 🤣
@EthanRougeau : Thank you, Ethan!! 😁 Just an fun Amazon find, and so true- fitting for this. Here you go (if you want one!): amzn.to/3BEMrBr
Happy belated birthday! Great reaction🔥🔥Thanks for supporting our Boi Ren🖤❤🖤
Happy birthday Jeremy. Great reaction. I think Kujo's girlfriend deserved this as much as he did, for the reasons people have mentioned here. I really liked the symbolism of the choir (the stolen sample) dying, because the song is gone. The guy playing Kujo is Kai Lacey from Ren's team. He did a fantastic job, even shaved his head for the role. He is also the bass player in the Back On 74/Message In A Bottle video.
@@sharoncarlisle9453 yoooooo the CHOIR!!!! I totally didn’t catch that symbolism!! Absolutely genius! Thanks for pointing that out. And thank you for the birthday wishes!
Great reaction.sick Boi is currently back up - TH-cam has put it back up having acknowledged that Kujo put in an illegal strike!
Love how Ren brings them out into the light and then leaves them in the dark. Nicely tied up at the end. Great reaction - enjoyed it. Thanks ❤
Same!! Ren is a damn genius in so many ways.
Excellent Reaction yous
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Great reaction guys 😁
Thank you!! 😁
Happy Blessed( belated) Birthday,brother!!!!🥰🙏🫶💜💛💖🫂🎉🎊☮️🌈🔮
Been waiting for you two to react to this.. you didn't disappoint!! ❤❤ Love you both!!!
Love your response beautiful
Thank you!!
#Ren is the man ❤🔥🔥🔥
Ren is so amazing! This was brilliant! ❤❤❤
The bulgarian choir was the sample kujo stole and sampled that them in the back
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Happy belated bithday🎉 you guys are only just now in my algoritme. 😁
Hope to see you do more Ren. He has great collabs with Prof "pain salesman" and Chris Webby "bagage"...both are featuring Ren so it's up on their youtube pages...can't find if you guys reacties to those 2 songs...🙈
OMG I love this!!! Every reaction I am seeing is the best ever :) KUJO...I am sorry you are the lesson...but you had several chances. I want part 2!!!!
Morally i don't hope for a part 2.-
Personally i want it.
Because it would be due
Belated Happy Birthday 🎉As always great reaction, love your Love for REN ! I'm so exited for his new releases and your reactions to it ❤
Thank you so much!!
RENegades intro is 🔥
Beat down is amazing!!!
Thank you, friend!!
"He shot himself in the.. in the.. BOTH legs!" Well said. Indeed he did.
I don’t think I will ever quite understand how it all went from Kujo selling a beat with a stolen sample and the owners getting in touch for the publishing money they’re owed to then somehow escalating into Kujo and his lawyer using a mistake made by others, not Ren himself, to demand money from Ren as if he was the thief. It’s like there’s a huge gap and I suspect it’s between Kujo’s ears 👀
But at least we got this righteous rage! Ren showed us exactly what happens when you push the nicest guy in the industry too far… he needed to let the anger out somehow and boy did he do just that 🔥
Ren just made history! Our sick boi was wronged and the hype to see him release his anger was insane. Pretty sure there was like twice the amount of people in chat for the premiere than we’ve seen before and so many reactors heard his call for support ❤️
It’s interesting that the community is so passionate because of how genuinely nice Ren is, yet we all LOVE seeing this side of him 😂 But as much as we love it and would love a part 2, for Ren’s sake I hope this is the end of it. He’s been through enough over this and just wants to move on 🖤
If you Google Kujobeats now Ren pops up first 😂😂😂 another career execute from Ren now lol.
Great reaction 😁👊
The track was released by YT yesterday, they acknowledged that it wasn't Ren's fault and CliffBeats suggested Kujo did this before to other artists
Just to add.. the gf also said she would break Ren's kneecaps at one point sort of 'jokingly'. But as Ren pointed out, if he had said it he would've been berated for it. This is why Ren said she liked it 'rough'.
We just love REN’s snap back. Honestly, he could likely sue just for that “threat”, just goes to show he’s so much more intelligent than those two idiots.
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. As much as I would love another piece of art from Ren on this situation it would mean that it hasn’t been resolved. And as someone who’s had to deal with people who create problems, REFUSE to participate or cooperate in a solution and then play the victims - while you have your hands tied because even defending yourself is used against you, I hope that this gets worked out asap. Unfortunately lawyers are involved and they usually end up being the real winners. ( What would have cost me about $600 in court + filing fees ended up costing $60K+ in attorneys fees alone- and years of stress and anxiety and actual ptsd. And health problems ending with a brain bleed. )
Love this comment, although we despise knowing you had to deal with a legal mess. Your perspective is spot on - part 2 means unresolved. This is just a really annoying “blip” in the timeline of life. Hope it gets resolved immediately.
Never mistake a man for a fool I'll take your ignorance right back to school
-Ren lyric from Animal Flow
Edit to add, Sick Boi is back up (for now)!!!!
I use the analogy of buying chicken from a manufacturer. You come up with a million dollar recipe for that chicken. You sell that now cooked chicken in your recipe, and the manufacturer of the chicken comes for you and wants some of your income from the recipe. They feel entitled to more money because you're making a ton more than the manufacturer made.
He mistook REN’s kindness for weakness. He was given a greedy lawyer by Beat Stars. The girlfriend said she would break Ren’s beautiful kneecaps so she can get it. Ren using this to get the negative energy out.
so unfortunate, the whole thing. But as always, so proud of our Ren.
The first video was more damning. Who is going to work with Kujo after this? I mean....even Ren's haters are on his side, here. Kujo got the internet to agree on something... I guess.
It’s a damn shame, really. It seems Kujo didn’t have any rational advice from an actual adult. The girlfriend getting involved was just more immaturity and bad decision making.
@@musikbyjh There are producers that would give anything to work with Ren. Yeah..Kujo hasn't a single honest friend. A good friend would've slapped him upside the head. Tragic.
The girlfriend also wrote a passage "from the contract" on reddit (I believe) which was entirely falsified, so his rage with her is definitely justified too! 🔥
Honestly, isn't that ILLEGAL. She could be sued for falsifying legal documentation. This kind of idiot moves just validates the lack of clear decision making from that camp.
@@musikbyjh yep, very illegal!
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The girlfriend invited herself into the situation be 're-writing' the contract, She fully deserves a seat at the party!
She put a fake contract up on line to try to say Ren was lying. Ren had all the original paper work so it was easy to prove her wrong.
How is she not getting sued for illegally modifying that contract, then broadcasting the false language on the internet?!?! That can get her in some real legal trouble. Just goes to show the immaturity and lack of clear decision making, honestly.
There's been radio silence from the Kujo camp for quite a while now. Ren also mentioned that Kujo didn't utter a word during a mediation call they held, even when Ren addressed questions directly to him. Instead Kujo's lawyer spoke on his behalf throughout the call. That there and his continued silence tells me Kujo is 100% now acting wholly under legal advise. Walking away from Ren's offer of collaborating and the potential that opportunity presents, appears on the surface at least, like career suicide. There's the obvious financial earnings a collaboration would generate, but the marketing and industry exposure has the potential to be far more lucrative for him, now and well into the future. I maybe and hope that I'm wrong here, but I think this is going in a whole other direction now. Why would he knock that back? It's so shortsighted and downright stupidity. Unless he's been advised he could come out with a whole lot more than just royalties. That could be numerous lawsuits filed for things like deformation, incitement with intent, emotional damages etc etc. I frigging hope not but lawyers are lawyers and greed is their bread and butter.
And Sick boi is back up on Rens channel for now, so TH-cam lifted the copyright. Justice prevails.
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Ren asking us to not go after this dude. Is like he knows he has a million+ megaton nuclear bomb in the backseat, but he still doesn't want to use it.
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Great reaction - pity you didn´t know all before, like why he´s so angry with the GF (clarified in other comments) - but still great and full of love for Ren. Late happy birthday (= "Gelukkige verjaardag") from Belgium, Jeremy!
Great reaction, sub from me, Renegades are out in force supporting the reactors straight back.
The GF threatened (jokingly apparently) to smash Ren's kneecaps in one of their exchanges and after their seemingly amicable behind the scenes conversation, next day she was on Reddit bad-mouthing again and posted a made up part of the Beat Stars contract which Ren can now use legally against them as it's literally illegal and defamation etc...I have no doubt that Ren and his team have collected enough evidence to go after both of them for defamation of character and straight out lying about the contract. Does he want to do that? No, he's still saying he wants to resolve this, if Kujo comes forward, owns his shit they can move on (think it was in his Twitch post-premier feed that he said that), he's still got the door one for this dude to apologise and make it right.
I love the irony too; it was a genius move taking Sick Bi down, now Kujo cannot make any money from it going forward, even if he did win anything legally (AR covers this in his reaction). Also, and I love this, Ren and his team plus reactors are going to make a tonne of money (I know that's not the point of the diss track) and who provided the subject matter, yet is only 'part of the scenery', and will make NOTHING form this at all, yeah, Kujo!! pmsl
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I don’t know this story at all, but it seems as though REN is stating his point. It was understandably intense. I hope it all works out. Thanks for helping out with the details. 🎶 Cyd
Great reaction/analysis. As for Kujo's motivation, I think it's actually because he'd have to pay all the royalties to the company that owns the sample. So everything sick boi makes, Kujo would have to pay that company money, even though Kujo only got a flat fee when he (illegally) sold it. Clearly his fault, but I don't think the motivation is him getting more money for himself, but rather because he screwed up and is liable for paying for it. So with Sick Boi being taken down, he actually helps Kujo as well. Sucks for Ren, but it was actually nice of Ren to take it down because it lets Kujo off the hook for his mistake.
Ren doesn't want us to act. Cujo is lucky
Ren has just announced that Sick Boi is no longer copyrighted as YT has rightly deemed it an illegal strike. It may be removed later if Ren does remake it without the KUJO sample.
Hell yes!!!! 🎉
Kujo’s gf threatened to break REN’s knee caps.
Given his recent history, any surprise that Kujo "stole" his nickname from a Steven King novel?
After that lovely conversation Ren had with the girlfriend, the next day she posted falsified contracts on Ren's reddit saying it was his responsibility to clear all samples (clearly false). That's a defamation lawsuit right there so.. yeah. Apparently the people in white represent the Bulgarian choir and they die at the end because without their sample the song Sick Boi is dead (I read this from someone else's comment). I think he said in his earlier post and his comment on this video that he would sue their asses off as part two if this isn't the end of it.
I don't think that Kujo ever imagined that Ren would actually remove Sick Boi from his catalog. Like, he couldn't conceive of this possibility, that Ren would be willing to lose money to prevent Kujo from getting a bigger piece than he originally contracted for. It was a master stroke on Ren's part, because it neutralizes Kujo's threats, and because ultimately Ren will probably wind up making MORE money. But I know it hurt Ren to take that song away, it meant a lot to him. Regarding the girlfriend, Ren posted a statement addressing some pushback he was getting from people about the language he used towards/about the girlfriend. He said that the "likes it rough" part was referencing her threat to break his kneecaps (I think she said this in jest, but it's still a wildly inappropriate thing to say in the middle of a legal dispute), and that he used the word "slut" as more of an insult to Kujo than to the girlfriend: "I was trying to think of the thing that would get under my skin the most if I was Kujo, and it wouldn't be any kind of insult about my character, it would be an insult about someone I loved." Ren also said, "I gotta state for the record as a man raised in a family of amazing women after my dad left, I don't condone this kind of behaviour in real life, and I have to point out that this is fiction!"
Just seen that TH-cam released Sick Boi because it was illegally copyrighted!! Win for Ren
such great news!! 🎉
Ren handled it perfectly! He spanked that greedy punk!
Yep - WHACK!
K's gf threatened to break Ren's kneecaps if she sees him irl
Pretty sure the caption is wrong as it’s “kneel to me” not “‘meal to me” but I could be wrong lol
It's definitely "'meal to me".
I feel sorry for Ren's friend who had to take the angry Ren screaming at him. Kai is doing great through it all. Kai played the bass guitar in the song from message in a bottle.
Ahhhhhh!!! Now we know Kai, thanks for helping us connect the dots. Honestly, Kai was probably pumped (even while Ren unleashed on him while acting), because his friend can let out all the rage in a safe way. This was masterfully done, once again!!