🔵Best staple Guns for beekeepers? Build Faster & Build better!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มี.ค. 2020
- Here we review 2 quality guns and show you the pros and cons of each!
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Awesome Hitachi/Metabo Stapler www.amazon.com/shop/tennessees-bees
Cost-effective Harbor Freight Stapler www.harborfreight.com/18-gauge-14-in-crown-air-stapler-64156.html
Just bought the Harbor Freight one Monday, my old one set up for a year and wouldn’t fire. It was about 10 years old and I rarely oiled it, all it needs is new O rings. I’m very happy with the new one. I always use 1 1/4 inch long staples. Thanks for the video and I hope you and your family are doing fine!
We're did you get your hive tool? Good to follow you and watch what you do. And how you wife keeps you straight. Thanks I enjoy
Hello Kamon, I had both the original named Hitachi nail, staple guns with a Bel Air pancake portable green compressor. I also used Senco 1/4" crown, 7/16" crown, and their brad nailer over the years as a carpenter, builder of mine own house, and putting together my tops, bottoms, pallets, boxes, and frames. Nice to see that others use the like even if this was 4 years ago. I try to buy American tools, but I sometimes need a cheap back up that can take a beating then thrown away as in using HF's small angle grinder to snip and cut blow out staples and nails in my boxes, and grinding tile, metal, and thick plastics. I will put on things temporary to be able to staple or nail at exactly 90° to help thwart that. Also I turn my frames and boxes 180° to what you show to relieve that edge stapling. Sometimes when I don't depress the safety firing tip all the way it only lets half the amount of air into the gun and it causes that nail or staple to not fire properly like you have on occasion and I myself sometimes. Pulling back the latch or slide once against the staples and making sure it is clean and free of paper or glue that holds the fastener clips together helps with the blank shots or misfires. Hope this helps you. Thanks for all the videos. I am becoming a huge fan because seeing all these things I experienced in your videos when I was young, your age with a family, and am know probably 25 + years older than you now is a good flash back. Also like the humor. Keep it up. Beekeepers and spouses. I funny challenge at times. :) 🐝
I bought a few of those HF guns a couple of years ago with a coupon for $15 each. I use them exclusively for bee equipment and I have shot thousands of nails through them and they have never failed me yet.
Do you oil it regularly
With everything going on in the World right now, thanks for just keeping it real Kamon. Really appreciate the videos and input.
Thank you so much for clearing up the gun issues. I've searched information on nail guns today until I have a headache. Now I understand brad nailers. Thank you I do enjoy your videos.
They both look like fine staple guns. I have been using a Freeman for the past two years and absolutely love it. No jams no misfires it just works. Thanks for sharing my friend.
👍👍. How appropriate! I just purchased the 2 in 1 Harbor Freight nailer and with a coupon it was only $19.95. My old one finally gave up the ghost.
Thanks- great to see beyond (or before) 'here's how to put together' videos. Knowing which tools work best for a job as simple as crown stapling a frame is as important as how to assemble. I almost bought a Bostich that had the front safety- now I can buy the cheaper one with more appropriate safety.
Just to let you know all 5 of my hives survived the winter even the weak one following your advise. Thank you!
Congrats! I am glad that we could help some. Keep up the good work!
I have one of the Central Pneumatic 18 Gauge 2 in 1 nailer/stapler and run the 1-1/2" staples in it. Along with Titebond III, this works great for most bee work, even brood boxes (I do add a few 2" coated screws to the boxes too). I rarely have a problem with my stapler, best $20 I spent at Harbor Freight.
To use the Hft stapler on the frames, you can turn the box and use the stapler from the opposite direction so the safety lands on the bar instead of the edge.
It requires a little more reaching, but makes it faster.
Also, Hft tends to have several brands or models, and they may have another one in the same price point with a different safety design that works better for that application, so I would consider that safety design as a deal breaker if I wanted to use it on frames.
You have to get a tool that's properly designed for your application.
And finally, when doing frames, if that was all I had, I personally would wire or wedge the safety back, and treat it like a loaded gun exercising very good trigger control, WHILE WEARING SAFETY GLASSES!!
Unplug it from the air hose except when actually stapling, don't have your finger on the trigger unless you are aimed at the wood, and as soon as you are done with the frame project, release the safety to normal.
And don't leave it unattended with the safety disabled either, in case someone else picks it up.
Hi kaymon I couldn’t get a hitachi gun here in the U.K. so I imported one from the states ( so there’s a few that are branded hitachi left)and it came yesterday flipping awesome that’s what it is. Thanks for the info. Paul/Essex
As a newbee I have built 12, 8 frame boxes and all of the frames with Titebond, a Harbor Freight staple gun and 3 gallon compressor. I then screwed the corners of the boxes.
Great comparison Kamon. I’ve had the harbor freight brand stapler fo over a year and ran about 10,000 staples through it so far and no jams or misfires (except when I run out of staples, does that count?). I do agree that the little safety spring can be a pain on some shoots, but I’ve found if I can turn whatever I’m stapling I can usually get it to work. All in all not to bad for the price. 😃
I have the banks from harbor freight. Have had no problems with it. In fact I used it to build the 5 hives the nucs I'm buying from are going into.
Thanks Kamon, since I already had an Air Compressor, I just ordered the Hitachi/Metabo Stapler from Amazon, $69 with free Prime shipping, can't beat the price, will look forward to giving it a go!
I love prime shipping it helps keep me from having to go into town with is worth alot!
Thanks for the Video. Maybe one day when I get tired of nailing I'll buy a compressor and nail gun.
I heard your wife giggle when you mentioned "what makes Daddy happy". I must say that made my day! hehe :)
I went back to shooting a sideways brad cause I got over throwing perfectly good frames away cause wider part of the sides got propalised and broke off when doing inspections. I tried using these frames for the outside frames but the novelty wore off and once brood was gone I just discarded them. I use liquid nails on all joints, boxes and frames etc. I tried a couple of thousand plastic frames and donated them to the bee club, the bees prefer wood and I am happy with it also.
Got a harbor freight air gun a couple weeks ago and my poor thumb is so happy. Retired the hammer
Darn it! I ordered the Metabo a few hours before your video posted. I definately would have used your link. Thanks for all of the great videos.
No worries! Let me know how you like it, and thanks for thinking about us!
@@kamonreynolds Do you use stainless steel staples or regular galvanized staples?
Another great video thanks for sharing definitely something to consider
Great comparison, I'll stick with my Hitachi, just like yours, have had several yrs, luckily i didnt have to put frames together for this yr, bought so many assembled ones for this yr , got a super good price !! All had to do is wax em an go. Sure great guns though 👍
Thanks !!
I've been using a Senco SLS20XP 3/8" crown stappler for frames and boxes for years. Really reliable and quiet stapler.
There you go I was thinking about getting one this year for the boxes but maybe next year. I have heard nothing but good about Senco 3/8 inch
@@kamonreynolds IIRC, I bought mine on eBay along with some rebuild kits and 1.5" adheasive coated staples. Took me a bit of adjusting to get the depth set just right but after that, it worked great. One big staple takes the place of 2 smaller staples and they work really nice on the finger joints of the boxes. 👍
Air tool tip oil daily with 30 weight non detergent oil. Air tool oil and air compressor oil is nothing but 30 weight non detergent oil repackaged and marked up.
Kaymon, why don't you just turn the staple gun 180 degrees so the air hose feeds across the hive and you don't have the issue of the safety lever not having anything to press down on? Speaking about the HF stapler
That totally could work but I am all about speed and I am short and I don't like leaning!
Good job! Interesting. You ought to be on PBS or DYI TV Networks doing "POOWWEERR TOOOL" Demos! Kamon the "Tool Man" Reynolds. Thanks for sharing!
I've found that the cheaper Central Pneumatic 2 in 1 stapler from Harbor Freight works better than the Banks. I've probably shot close to 100,000 staples and brads through mine and it hasn't had any issues. I have a much more expensive Bostich brad nailer that gets jammed every so often. I now have 2 Central Pneumatic 2 in 1s, I use one for brads and 1 for staples. The one thing that I did find is that the Central Pneumatic works better when the insides are greased as apposed to oiled.
Hi K & L, good to see you’re well and I hope the kids are too!! Thanks for keeping up with the vids in this crazy time! Could you recommend a compressor?!
A silent one haha. seriously, I use a little Hitachi compressor and it does a great job. It is pretty loud though. I have used 5-6 other compressors and they all have worked well but the more you pay the bigger they are the quieter they are typically.
Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees excellent thanks & keep up the great work! I’ve been actually teaching some beeks from what you post!! Great tried and true material!
I plan on getting a banks the next time there is 25-30% off coupon available. I do have the Central pneumatic ones and they are ok, nothing to brag about but they do work. Thanks for the review Kamon.
If you search Harbor Freight online coupons, they have a 20%, coupon on the Hft website good through the end of the month I think it was.
@@ke6gwf yes I know about thank you. My CP works fine for now. If it goes on sale maybe I'll pick one up
Good video 👍. Beats using a hammer and tiny nails which doesn't hold very good.
Just bought a Banks 2 weeks ago, no problems so far, but just putting swarm boxes together. Why wouldn't holding the gun over the middle of the frame length instead of the edge work?
Hi TN bee lady. It does work that way but over thousands of frames it is slower and rougher on my back. I got spoiled on the Hitachi and old habits die hard.
So glad you posted this because I'm going to start making my own bee hives for myself and to sell. You're using the narrow (1/4") crown stapler. One set of hives I've seen, uses both the narrow crown as well as a wider crown for the comb frames. They used the wider crown to nail in from the side. Any thoughts on that?
I got 3 and I got a framing gun also all use air and a lot easies now
So to start with, WEAR SAFETY GLASSES!
ESPECIALLY when doing double staples, and the safety disabled, you are much more likely to have a staple go flying or a shard go flying.
Your eyes are more valuable than some annoyance from the glasses.
I would be likely to disable the safety for doing that myself, just like I prefer a handgun with no safety, but eye protection doesn't slow the work down any, so no excuses for not wearing it.
2 Questions:
1. Is it necessary to shoot 2 staples on each corner of the frame? I had only been shooting one in each corner.
2. Do you use staples on your boxes to assembling, or do you use Brad Nails?
You don't have to use 2 I haven't always. I do recommend glue though. Yes, I use staples on boxes as well
What about nail guns for assembling boxes do you use ?
I picked up the combo stapler/nailer earlier this year and so far the only thing wrong with it is they tried to sell me a $20 warranty for a $25 gun
Wow! No thanks!
Can you tell us how you made the frame jig and dimensions?
Great videos. Thank you! Do you make your frames? I notice you don’t sell frames. As a beginner with 10 frame and 8 frame boxes, what frames would you recommend?
Hi Mickey, I like the Mann lakes frames in this video. The are made from high quality pine and are very uniform. I am purchasing them because it is not worth my time to make them and I don't have the tools to make them so nice. I just purchased 3000 so I also get a bulk discount. Great frames
Thanks Kamon.
Rather than a compressed air stapler, could you review a 220volt powered stapler.
Stuart
That would be fun maybe one day!
For the tab on the HF tool, couldn’t you just rotate the box 180 degrees and have the box so that the tab is on the other side and not hanging near the edge?
True but so slow!
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I have the Hitachi, works great, zero issues, many thousand staples
It truly has the quality of a tool that is enjoyable to work with
Do you see any difference in the two regarding the adjustment of the depth adjustment?
They perform similarly in regard to the psi it takes to shoot the staple into the wood. The same PSI I used on my hitachi works nearly identical for the banks. Depending on what I want I can adjust the PSI on my Hitachi air compressor
@@kamonreynolds thanks, Kamon. I was hoping that the Hitachi might have an on-tool depth adjustment that worked better than the HF unit.
How much air pressure do you use on the staplers
I am usually in the 50psi range but these guns do vary a bit. I don't want it sinking in too far. 1/16 of an inch is as deep as I want it to sink.
Do you shoot a shorter staple side ways on the top bars.
I use to but not I am just shooting 2 in the top and glue them well now.
Where are your frames from and do you use acorn bee plastic foundation?
mann lake frames are what I prefer. Acorn I think has the best foundation but I am getting 3000 sheets of mannlakes rite cell since I am buying the frames assembled with the foundation added.
@@kamonreynolds why are you getting them assembled looks like you have a pretty good system to assemble them here?
Can you do a video on how you built the box you have the frames in here?
I really wanted to but it doesn't look like I am going to have time for that because bee season is underway!
Contractors use Hitachi nail guns.
Yeah and mechanics use Mac and snap-on....some how I've managed to get by the last 50 years using craftsman and similar and never, ever broke one yet. Go figure. I've also got harbor freight staplers and nailers, rebuilt a house with the nail gun....best $80 I ever spent.
? I'm a contractor.
Bostich and Pasload.
Hitachi? You're kidding right?
Good day Caymon,those staple guns has to be used with air compressor?
Hey Hubert yes these both require air to work. Happy Beekeeping
Do you use these same staples to assemble hive bodies?
I do but I also use glue on the hive bodies. Otherwise overtime they back out as the boards want to cup/warp
@@kamonreynolds what length staples do you use on hive bodies?
1.5 in
Rules were made to be broken. My slogan all my life. I’ve been using paneling nails. Staples should would be easier on my thumb and finger.
You get what ya pay for. I’ve always believed in that.
Walmart has the stapler, half price of amazon and free shipping
Can anyone recommend an electric stapler?
Unfortunately under a year my metabo blew up. Oiled every day as instructed
Kamon are you adding supers yet?
Not yet but we are pulling frames of brood frame super strong colonies and giving them to good colonies that are a bit behind.
lol, I use a hammer and it takes all friggin' day!
Just tie back the safety. lol not osha approved though.
make sure your bees have water ha ha