It is not confirmed oficially, but semiofficially - its true, I just spoke to moog guys in superB24 and they said it is going to happen some soon. “But I never told you that” Hooray, finally moog steps into Don Buchla’s area with their acceptionally owesome VCOs filters and increddible VCAs.
It's great to see these more experimental synths from Moog. But what I would really love to hear about: do you know anything about the new 8V Polysynth "Moog Muse"? I was so much looking forward to Superbooth, just to get some new information about it, a release date, anything. And I am really disappointed that there seems nothing...
Pittsburgh really have their own sound though.. Real gummy and nothing like moog.. the voltage lab is something else entirely.. it is two grand.. different price segment and much much much more delicious if you can afford it.. it really is a complete workstation instrument in a way these are just not really.
I just love they're releasing brand new synths. Moog keep innovating and hopefully with the fresh funds the Mirror and these new Eurorack synths are just the beginning.
That looks cool. Based on the image, I think the sequencers are like Turing Machine. The "Chain seq" button suggests that maybe the 8 bits are pages. The corrupt knob will randomly turn bits on or off. There's a knob on the VCO to scale the sequencer CV. at far left it says quantize. So it would be a four note sequencer. Both off, or some combination of them on. It looks like EG1 is decay only and normalled to pitch. You can route it to the VCO, LFO, Folder, VCF with attenuverters. There's also a decay only EG2 that seems normalled to the VCA. It think you'll be able to get both cool percussion and slow drones with this out of the box, and all sorts of stuff when combined with external gear. This is a lot more interesting to me than Spectravox. Thanks for the video and especially the image of the panel.
Labyrinth + Spectravox are a two punch combo to the cloners. This is how a trail setter company of Moog's stature should operate - look forward and keep innovating.
That 'two punch combo' will do zero damage to the cloners. In fact, I just see two more units for the cloners to manufacture. I wonder what they'll call them and what colour they'll be....
Really excited to see that they are still designing new synths in the semi-modular format. I really enjoy them as a whole. Both the Spectravox and the Labyrith is on my most wanted list.
I’m looking forward to seeing someone demo this. Does it check boxes that the Pittsburgh Mod Taiga misses? Pittsburgh has been mixing West Coast influences for a long time and their oscillators are great. Taiga matches the Moog 60 hp format too.
@@wurlinnawurl Will it in this instrument? Moog sound is attributed to its ladder filter with its steep curve. Oscillators are powerful because its limited to basic waveshapes. If this is West Coast inspired will it have the iconic filter? Not sure if the Moog “sound” will survive the translation. Looking forward to the reviews. I wouldn’t describe Pittsburgh sound as gummy. They are really interested in inbetween sounds rather than basic waveforms and their low pass gates produce a different sound than Moog. But if you run their oscillators through a ladder filter you can get as big and snappy a sound as your traditional Moog. The bandpass filter is welcome. Is there reverb?
Looking over the patch bay, why is there no VCO Output? Only the modulation oscillator gets a dedicated out to patch around the synth? That seems like a massive oversight for a semimodular synth, especially when all of Moog's other semimodular synths have raw VCO outputs, per waveform in some cases.
If you bought the clones before the inMusic acquisition, you're an asshole who helped destroy the company. If you buy the clones now, have fun patching!
I love what Moog is doing with all of these synths, they're special and quite different from everything else. Too bad everything's mono output and most are without midi. I'm very excited for this one. The just released Spectravox looks really interesting to me too, but this one... wayyyyyyy more!
This Moog has MIDI. All the semi-modular have MIDI, except the DFAM and now Specravox. Unless you are including the "DIY" Werkstatt-01 and Mavis. I don't include them in the Moog semi-modular line. Is there really any point to having analog synthesis in stereo? You can always create a stereo field in post. Also, if you record with a band, all instruments are recorded mono, even the 6 to 8 drum tracks. It's afterward, usually, that a stereo field is created. I've always been confused about why people want synths to naturally be stereo. Is it for performing live? Am I missing something..?
Hopefully we will start to see synths with multiple filter options to choose from ...including crazy stuff from Eurorack World.....with series and parallel options for everything.
i'm beginning to like the names they invent for these little semi modular surprises. First it was all Mothers, come to mammy for a warm familiar hug. Now it's Labyrinth. Well you want to get away from home? Westcoast baby? Mother can't help you now, you'll have to get out of that Labyrinth all by yourself. Can't say i didn't warn ye, hahaha. A remarkable development, Tiger, and thank you for telling. Truly hoping for some in depth musical demos on the Moog Spectravox and Labyrinth. Meanwhile patiently waiting for the Behringer Spice to arrive.
Been researching this thing for the past day or two trying to see what people know about it. I already have the Dfam, m32, and subharmonicon. Trying to decide if I want to continue buying these or not
Sounds more interesting to me than the Spectravox and I've been pondering something to pair up with a Subharmonicon other than the Mother-32 and DFAM, so at least Moog is offering more affordable options that aren't DIY.
I will pay $599-$799 for this but I do not feel the same about the Spectravox. They tried to put Subharmonicon pricing on it and I feel that’s a mistake.
Unpopular statement incoming: the reason behringer keeps getting away with cloning moog gear is that moog has been relying on it's classic sound (very old and repeatedly copied circuits) to sell a form factor. Now for the hopefully less controversial take: innovation will likely solve moogs ip protection problem.
Thought it might be related to inmusic buying Moog, but their brands don’t exactly scream West Coast sound. Pittsburg Modular and Cre8Audio do the west coast stuff, but Moog venturing into WC is pretty big but then it’s not classic Moog. Oh well it’s all fun an$ games I guess.
what is interesting is that this isn't what you talked about the other day with the vocoder-esk synth (the harp girl, no clue what shes actually called has done a vid with that one, i watched last night) when moog was taken over there was so much fear over what it would mean for the company but they seem to still be ok. it don't seem to have effected much unless quality has change maybe
It could also be that they're just clearing the product pipelines. The Subharmonicon and the Spectravox (and even to an extent the Mavis) were demo'd in prototype form years before release, which gives you an idea of the length of product development. My fear is Moog will follow the path of E-mu which went from once producing star sponsored products like the Emulator2 to selling re-branded plastic keyboards after being taken over.
@@Alan_Watkin Their latest products are really niche of niche, you'd need to have a serious sound design fetish to consider buying this. As an independent boutique manufacturer Moog could continue with low volume/high markup products, but as a profit & loss column on a big corporate spreadsheet it can't.
@@Tiger.Arcade idk. I haven’t looked into it or heard about it. So maybe but it doesn’t look right to me. But I guess I could see them coming out with 3 new semi Modulars to go with the original ss3 Ok I see the photos on synthtopia now. Hmmm very intriguing.
This Moog has MIDI. All have MIDI except the DFAM and now Specravox. Unless you include the "DIY" Werkstatt-01 and Mavis in the semi-modular line. I don't include them in the Moog semi-modular line.
It is not confirmed oficially, but semiofficially - its true, I just spoke to moog guys in superB24 and they said it is going to happen some soon. “But I never told you that”
Hooray, finally moog steps into Don Buchla’s area with their acceptionally owesome VCOs filters and increddible VCAs.
It's great to see these more experimental synths from Moog. But what I would really love to hear about: do you know anything about the new 8V Polysynth "Moog Muse"? I was so much looking forward to Superbooth, just to get some new information about it, a release date, anything. And I am really disappointed that there seems nothing...
Pittsburgh really have their own sound though.. Real gummy and nothing like moog.. the voltage lab is something else entirely.. it is two grand.. different price segment and much much much more delicious if you can afford it.. it really is a complete workstation instrument in a way these are just not really.
I just love they're releasing brand new synths. Moog keep innovating and hopefully with the fresh funds the Mirror and these new Eurorack synths are just the beginning.
I don't think it's gonna be called mirror.. I think they switched it to the muse.. I might be wrong .. I hope it's mirror.. it just sounds better lol
That looks cool. Based on the image, I think the sequencers are like Turing Machine. The "Chain seq" button suggests that maybe the 8 bits are pages. The corrupt knob will randomly turn bits on or off. There's a knob on the VCO to scale the sequencer CV. at far left it says quantize. So it would be a four note sequencer. Both off, or some combination of them on. It looks like EG1 is decay only and normalled to pitch. You can route it to the VCO, LFO, Folder, VCF with attenuverters. There's also a decay only EG2 that seems normalled to the VCA.
It think you'll be able to get both cool percussion and slow drones with this out of the box, and all sorts of stuff when combined with external gear.
This is a lot more interesting to me than Spectravox.
Thanks for the video and especially the image of the panel.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I want all of the Studio series. This is getting better by the day.
Moog should just go ahead and make a statement about it at this point.
Sound studio 5 here we go 🔥
Thanks Daniel! This is cool news. Was kinda stoked on the Spectravox but this looks even more intriguing. Hope you’re digging the pico drums!!
I got the Spectravox so we’ll see how it is. I’ll be sure to do a video review. Thanks for watching!
Wow. I think this would pair with the Subharmonicon amazingly well.
Exactly what I was thinking
@@paulchambers2403 i think so.
Labyrinth + Spectravox are a two punch combo to the cloners. This is how a trail setter company of Moog's stature should operate - look forward and keep innovating.
That 'two punch combo' will do zero damage to the cloners. In fact, I just see two more units for the cloners to manufacture. I wonder what they'll call them and what colour they'll be....
Excited for this. I don't even know what it is exactly, but I need a Moog called Labyrinth. Yes please on some west coast Moog. I. NEED. IT.
Haha I’m with you.
We all “need” a Moog that does West Coast synthesis, we all “need” one
@@sawtooth808 LOL
In order to proceed to the labyrinth, you must first navagate the bog of eternal stench
The TRS MIDI feature makes this very tempting, even at Moog prices. Looking forward to some demos. Thanks for sharing.
Really excited to see that they are still designing new synths in the semi-modular format. I really enjoy them as a whole. Both the Spectravox and the Labyrith is on my most wanted list.
I’m looking forward to seeing someone demo this. Does it check boxes that the Pittsburgh Mod Taiga misses? Pittsburgh has been mixing West Coast influences for a long time and their oscillators are great. Taiga matches the Moog 60 hp format too.
Pittsburgh Modular also released Their Voltage Lab 2
Pittsburgh really have their own sound.. really gummy and nothing like moog.
Pittsburgh really have their own sound though.. Really gummy and nothing like moog.
@@wurlinnawurl Will it in this instrument? Moog sound is attributed to its ladder filter with its steep curve. Oscillators are powerful because its limited to basic waveshapes. If this is West Coast inspired will it have the iconic filter? Not sure if the Moog “sound” will survive the translation. Looking forward to the reviews. I wouldn’t describe Pittsburgh sound as gummy. They are really interested in inbetween sounds rather than basic waveforms and their low pass gates produce a different sound than Moog. But if you run their oscillators through a ladder filter you can get as big and snappy a sound as your traditional Moog. The bandpass filter is welcome. Is there reverb?
Would love to have you tubes about combining various Moog units. Nothing has been written by the company that I are aware of!!
The sound studios were exactly what that is about. You can also check out a bjook called patch and tweak with Moog. ✌️
Are people doing modular a bit more these days? Noticing a bunch of semi modular offerings these days.
Yes
Looking over the patch bay, why is there no VCO Output? Only the modulation oscillator gets a dedicated out to patch around the synth? That seems like a massive oversight for a semimodular synth, especially when all of Moog's other semimodular synths have raw VCO outputs, per waveform in some cases.
Hope Noizzi Hardwood makes a 5-tier mount for Moogs!
We also know that there is no midi port and Moog always listen to their customers.
This one probably isn’t for me, but I’m always happy to see Moog releasing products and trying new things. Great video as always!
Totally fair. I want to see a demo and actual description before I dive in to wanting one.
I want one and I don’t want a demo because it would break the fantasy!
@@BikePitts hahahaha
Depending on how good this is, i might be willing to pay moog prices for this one rather than waiting for the clones
If you bought the clones before the inMusic acquisition, you're an asshole who helped destroy the company. If you buy the clones now, have fun patching!
Or…you could get a Pittsburgh Modular Voltage Lab 2 (not quite as expensive as a Moog…but close)
And then yall wonder why Moog has financial problems. You want to support the thieves but not the original inventors.
Behringer Maze!!
An alternative is just waiting for the used market
Could be a XAOC like Module, they maniupulate CV and audio signals by a numeric 8-bit system.
I love what Moog is doing with all of these synths, they're special and quite different from everything else. Too bad everything's mono output and most are without midi. I'm very excited for this one. The just released Spectravox looks really interesting to me too, but this one... wayyyyyyy more!
Totally. It seems like every release they get more complex and unique.
This Moog has MIDI. All the semi-modular have MIDI, except the DFAM and now Specravox. Unless you are including the "DIY" Werkstatt-01 and Mavis. I don't include them in the Moog semi-modular line. Is there really any point to having analog synthesis in stereo? You can always create a stereo field in post. Also, if you record with a band, all instruments are recorded mono, even the 6 to 8 drum tracks. It's afterward, usually, that a stereo field is created. I've always been confused about why people want synths to naturally be stereo. Is it for performing live? Am I missing something..?
Had an 0-coast so I would pick this up just to see if I’d like it as much.
Hopefully we will start to see synths with multiple filter options to choose from ...including crazy stuff from Eurorack World.....with series and parallel options for everything.
i'm beginning to like the names they invent for these little semi modular surprises. First it was all Mothers, come to mammy for a warm familiar hug. Now it's Labyrinth. Well you want to get away from home? Westcoast baby? Mother can't help you now, you'll have to get out of that Labyrinth all by yourself. Can't say i didn't warn ye, hahaha.
A remarkable development, Tiger, and thank you for telling. Truly hoping for some in depth musical demos on the Moog Spectravox and Labyrinth. Meanwhile patiently waiting for the Behringer Spice to arrive.
Thanks for watching!
Been researching this thing for the past day or two trying to see what people know about it. I already have the Dfam, m32, and subharmonicon. Trying to decide if I want to continue buying these or not
Oh yas. I think this shall complete my dfam + subharmonicon sound studio.
Was missing an LFO and some more modulation 😋
Can't wait for this to be on sale. But then, why stick with only 8 steps? why, oh why?
@@darakilicoglu yeah, looks very cool. Moog releasing a buchla like synth 👍 👍 👍 can't wait!
Okay now I am excited thanks for sharing.
Sounds more interesting to me than the Spectravox and I've been pondering something to pair up with a Subharmonicon other than the Mother-32 and DFAM, so at least Moog is offering more affordable options that aren't DIY.
This seems like more up my alley compared to the Spectravox!
Seems to be the general consensus! I’m gonna get both regardless 😅
9 hours later- still nothing from Moog.....
I want one for sure
Unlisted Moog Labyrinth video up on the Moog Music channel - th-cam.com/video/kSuY67Jx4Zw/w-d-xo.html
I watched. It’s been removed already!!
I will pay $599-$799 for this but I do not feel the same about the Spectravox. They tried to put Subharmonicon pricing on it and I feel that’s a mistake.
I 100% agree.
Spectravox has a lot of flexibility as a processor or generator. It offers quite a bit. Obviously not for everyone though.
Cool!!
Oh no I have to buy another Moog now!
looks sick
Moog needs to hold on to this for a few months. I just ordered the Spectravox and can't afford this one for at least a few months.
Unpopular statement incoming: the reason behringer keeps getting away with cloning moog gear is that moog has been relying on it's classic sound (very old and repeatedly copied circuits) to sell a form factor. Now for the hopefully less controversial take: innovation will likely solve moogs ip protection problem.
A Moog's 0-Coast ?
It looks great 🎉 my wallet cries
Saaaaame 😭
Thought it might be related to inmusic buying Moog, but their brands don’t exactly scream West Coast sound. Pittsburg Modular and Cre8Audio do the west coast stuff, but Moog venturing into WC is pretty big but then it’s not classic Moog. Oh well it’s all fun an$ games I guess.
They should all have MIDI
Close...Actually the real name apparently is the Moog Labradoodle.🤔
Has Behringer cloned this yet?
who gives a shit
No, I’m sure they’re scrambling
Instant buy as soon as it drops I'm getting it
😎💪
what is interesting is that this isn't what you talked about the other day with the vocoder-esk synth (the harp girl, no clue what shes actually called has done a vid with that one, i watched last night) when moog was taken over there was so much fear over what it would mean for the company but they seem to still be ok. it don't seem to have effected much unless quality has change maybe
It could also be that they're just clearing the product pipelines. The Subharmonicon and the Spectravox (and even to an extent the Mavis) were demo'd in prototype form years before release, which gives you an idea of the length of product development. My fear is Moog will follow the path of E-mu which went from once producing star sponsored products like the Emulator2 to selling re-branded plastic keyboards after being taken over.
@@Error6503 yeah thats defo poss, i think how well this new stuff sell's might dictate that
@@Alan_Watkin Their latest products are really niche of niche, you'd need to have a serious sound design fetish to consider buying this. As an independent boutique manufacturer Moog could continue with low volume/high markup products, but as a profit & loss column on a big corporate spreadsheet it can't.
wondering how many of these ''leaks'' are actual leaks.
Sounds like a cheap way to advertise and to get people interested.
Haha if that’s so, it’s working ✌️😆
Just give me a used D50 please.
This one looks kinda funny. Is it really a leak? I’m not so sure. Edit: ok I guess this thing is more legit than I thought. Now I’m interested.
You think it’s fake?
@@Tiger.Arcade idk. I haven’t looked into it or heard about it. So maybe but it doesn’t look right to me. But I guess I could see them coming out with 3 new semi Modulars to go with the original ss3
Ok I see the photos on synthtopia now. Hmmm very intriguing.
I thought MOOG is dead?? So it was just marketing.
Moog Company, RIP
Omgv😂 so many leaks in the synth world 🌎 right. Im sure it was just an accident 😂
gimme gimme gimme
Tip: set playback speed to 1.5x. It’ll save you time and frustration.
The video is a little over 4 minutes long. Just relax man and enjoy the show. ✌️😎
It's the 'drawl' lol
@@steveh8658 oh god do I have a drawl?! Hahaha
@@Tiger.Arcade Yeah! lol! Technically, it's the dragging out of vowels. But hey, it's your thing!
better get Behringer onto it.
I’ll wait for the Behringer version with MIDI 😂
This Moog has MIDI. All have MIDI except the DFAM and now Specravox. Unless you include the "DIY" Werkstatt-01 and Mavis in the semi-modular line. I don't include them in the Moog semi-modular line.
Adding the Moog Studio to the Labyrinth and Spectraxox brings the tier number to five plus add on spaces for one or more Mavis kits. Pretty wild 🫣