Two things I really love about this video. 1. $200 for a competitive deck? It'll probably be the cheapest deck in your game by about $1,000. That's awesome. 2. Changing cards changed the mentality, which changed the importance of other cards in the deck. This is the ONLY video I've seen that openly talks about that. Thank you!
Competitive for $200?!?! I'm speechless. Those few cards make a gigantic difference and can swing the game in literally a few turns to win. I love your videos, as it's making me think of new combos all the time.
Love this idea for your channel. The fact that you started us out with a $25 deck tech and then gave us the $100 deck tech and for those that want more now here we are with the $200 version. I truly truly wish you did this with all your videos and deck techs, it’s incredible. Thank you so much
Great content. I built a Teysa deck based on many of your suggestions from the first video and finally had a chance to use it last night with excellent results.
Hey Mitch, this is an awesome video. I totally want to play the list after seeing you beat their faces in on the show this week. Thanks for making a cool finale with us!
I think occasionally doing these is cool for the people who want to slowly upgrade your cheap decks with better cards but haven't quite figured out how they want to upgrade it. I really wish you'd do a break the bank for the Pheldagriff deck for that purpose. I'd also love to sea a break the bank for Tatyova, but only because I've already upgraded that deck (Mine is worth about $180 now) and I'd love to see your thought process behind how to make it better.
It is so cool that you got to play with them. I followed you first, but I saw their video on this deck first. Very cool very different channels that make really entertaining videos. Thank you.
@McGrowlieJr I can understand that. My problem is I have older cards (Scalding Tarn for example) that I'm terrified to play since I've had cards stolen from me before. And I'm afraid to proxy since people may not believe I have the card
There are a couple of times when I like proxies. 1. Planning on buying a deck. Including reasonable proxies that you might possibly buy or include. 2. You actually have the card in the deck, but you don’t find it reasonable to buy multiple. I have doubling season, rhystic study, cyclonic rift etc, but it really isn’t reasonable for me to buy more than one. 3. You have the card, but there’s no way you want to take it out and play with it at your playgroup. I’ve got a sliver queen, but I play with kids often, and I don’t want to use my $50 reserved list card where somebody might get rough, bend it accidentally, or spill something on it. 4. The playgroup has somebody with a more expensive deck and you use proxies to match what they’re doing.
Mitch I still love playing this deck after 3 years! What would be some new cards you would say could be considered as a new must have? Meathook Massacre is one that comes to my mind
What I like to do for fun is play first with the usd25 version in a tournament. Then I add the reasonable upgrades and try again. If a break the bank exists I play with that the third time but now when I get around to teysa I can play it 4 times. I'm so excited for that and an excuse to buy demonic tutor and company. I want to do this with all of your deck techs so I got lots of edh to play. Currently putting the upgraded atraxa together but I'm eyeing nezahal atm because I like dinosaurs
I won 2 games with revel in riches on turn 6 and both were 5 player games. I just recently made the deck and im having fun playing it. also GG on your 10 min win.
If anyone is wanting to build around Teysa…Dictate of Erebos. Get ready for your friends to hate you if they even let it stay on the battlefield for more than a turn or two.
Have you ever considered (or am I missing an existing) video on how-to build to a budget? I feel like it has to be more than "build a deck, and then fine worse versions of the cards you picked." I want to start trying to make more budget decks ($25-$50 sounds amazing), but not sure an ideal way to do so.
A couple of questions. Love this deck and I really like my Teysa build. A couple cards you have omitted that I'm curious about, Priest of the Forgotten Gods, Gutterbones (with or without Reassembling Skeleton because they both are easy to bring back), Seraph of the Scales and Nightmare Shepherd. What are your thoughts on adding those cards?
I saw that episode you were in...oof. Ya Orzof baby definitely performed no denying that, but...I don't get the appeal of that type of game. I like chain reactions where doing one thing generates a bunch of value, but the competitive scene takes that concept and turns it into a terrifying weapon... But I digress. I'd love a little insight into why people see this type of magic fun. There was hardly any interaction from the other players in that game, and I just don't understand how they could say it was a good game when they didn't really get to even do anything. It only looked fun for the person that was winning(points at your invisible championship belt)
Unless you have an EXTREME need for colored mana that your land base for some reason doesn't cover, removing prismatic lens for a charcoal diamond was a mistake I would say. I didn't watch the original deck tech but the best mana rocks are the ones that cost 2 or less and come in untapped, so if you aren't already using mindstone/thought vessel, those would also be better
Yeah, that was very quick, but I don't think it showed the deck right, sure it won quick but most of the cards were just combo pieces, no removal or tutors were even used so it was what could happen rather then what will most likely happen.
I built her, took me about a week to decide that Teysa Orzhov Scion is just a better commander. Cheaper on the mana, and self generates value on top of being a repeatable removal effect. Teysa Karlov still makes the cut in the 99 as an amplifier and token utility card, but as a commander you just end up having to play worse cards on average than in 3 cmc Teysa and Karlov is just more awkward to get in play at the right time . It's also easier to adjust between play groups, as removing Darkest Hour and/or tutors for it allow you to massively cut the auto win scenarios while still playing a powerful deck.
nice! i have almost the same exact deck, although i'm still missing like 4 key cards (dictate of erebos being the most important among them) nice to see you on Spike Feeders!
Well, I don't want to be negative because unreasona bly upgraded videos are not bad and are interesting to watch ... but at same time, I'd like to give some feedback. I will note that out of last 10 videos, 5 deal with upgrading decks. So I am going to address this as if it is where channel is heading. I started following this channel because of 15/25$ Tech techs which are very interesting and plausible to obtain (especially since they are great home for commons/uncommons and bulk rares). It manages to pull off making commander decks out of legendaries I would not consider playing and get me excited to try them. 100$+ Deck techs are quite out of budget range and more fit to channel with different mission (like being competitive). I personally do not follow those kind of channels much. I will also note that upgrade /100+$ videos are getting less views than other videos published in similar time. I would attribute this to the fact that if people like the deck, they will be researching and upgrading it by themselves. I definitelly did that with Arcades deck for example. My suggestion would be to to include reasonably upgraded section in future deck techs - because what is missing there is mostly saying what cards are best candidates for "out". And to rethink 100$ videos - my first idea would be to wait a bit and not post them back to back with original tech. Another would be to diversify - for example "inverse" where you take 25$ tech and shrink it down to 15$. Also, I feel that lots of deck techs could eventually use seccond look without change in price because card prices change and new cards are constantly being released. In any case, thanks for lots of hard work!
I agree with you and I will say that I am way more interested in the $25 deck techs. However, 200 for a competitive EDH deck is a steal and I think does have a place on the channel, as its not just casual players that want to save money. Maybe just do them less frequently.
In Mitch's defense he built the deck for Spike Feeders. He didn't have to show us but I'm glad he did. It gave me insight how important tutors are in a singleton format.
So I am running this deck with a 600$ budget. But my infinite combo wasnt mentioned so I thought you'd like to know. Phyrexian altar + gravecrawler + corpse knight. Boom. Instant win.
Great video! I have an Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim deck with a lot of the same cards, so I might just convert it to a Teysa deck. Having said that, I think Ayli would be a great sac outlet in this deck. She's basically Vindicate on a stick that can also gain you life if you're in a tight spot. Thoughts?
Mitch generally stays away from sac outlets you pay for. Good card for sure, but the 50 life required to use its second ability makes it circumstantial, it only puts in hard work when you're already doing well.
Hey there! I was gonna ask you something, I have laying around a Smokestack, a Martyr's Bond and a Divine Visitation inside my collection and I think they may be a good addition to the Deck but I'm not really sure, Would you mind please give me your opinion for each one of them? Like if they would be good or bad inside the Deck, And I love your Channel!
As of recent unbanning: Swap Teysa Karlov for Teysa, Orzhov Scion as the Commander, and add Painter's Servent/Darkest Hour for more combo ;) (and then you have my deck, pretty much =) )
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I like these $200 ones. It gets to a more realistic price for a decent deck that will hold its own. This may vary depending on what your group or environment plays. Unless you're all playing with a $25 budget, you're going to be blasted out of the waters.
Where is the divine visitation to make all the things angels for all the things that care for specific things that die for them infinite combos? Like bishop of wings or requiem angel xD
Elenda, the Dusk Rose is 20x better as a commander and Teysa Karlov as the 99. Its much better as a sacrifice deck that combos off if anyone else is using a creature based deck since you basically absorb all the death from the battlefield. Ill reply with my deck list if anyone wants
Shtaaahp it -- if I wanted to see expensive decks I would go to another TH-cam channel. Either that or I'll have to go somewhere else for budget decks. It feels like over half your episodes are breaking the bank
Two things I really love about this video. 1. $200 for a competitive deck? It'll probably be the cheapest deck in your game by about $1,000. That's awesome. 2. Changing cards changed the mentality, which changed the importance of other cards in the deck. This is the ONLY video I've seen that openly talks about that. Thank you!
Well thanks!
If you want to play cEDH on the cheap, Yisan is the by far best option. For 200$ you can get all of the best cards but gaeas cradle.
Competitive for $200?!?! I'm speechless. Those few cards make a gigantic difference and can swing the game in literally a few turns to win. I love your videos, as it's making me think of new combos all the time.
Glad you are enjoying them!
Love this idea for your channel. The fact that you started us out with a $25 deck tech and then gave us the $100 deck tech and for those that want more now here we are with the $200 version. I truly truly wish you did this with all your videos and deck techs, it’s incredible. Thank you so much
Great content. I built a Teysa deck based on many of your suggestions from the first video and finally had a chance to use it last night with excellent results.
Nice!
Hey Mitch, this is an awesome video. I totally want to play the list after seeing you beat their faces in on the show this week. Thanks for making a cool finale with us!
Are we not going to talk about his face reveal in SpikeFeeder?
I will... he looks like one of my professors. And kinda sounds like him too now with the face put with the voice. 0.o
@@mk24789 I am definitely not your professor...and make sure you study for your exam next week!
And nice job on a 10 minute win
@@alexwilder806 Well thank you!
I think occasionally doing these is cool for the people who want to slowly upgrade your cheap decks with better cards but haven't quite figured out how they want to upgrade it. I really wish you'd do a break the bank for the Pheldagriff deck for that purpose.
I'd also love to sea a break the bank for Tatyova, but only because I've already upgraded that deck (Mine is worth about $180 now) and I'd love to see your thought process behind how to make it better.
It is so cool that you got to play with them. I followed you first, but I saw their video on this deck first. Very cool very different channels that make really entertaining videos. Thank you.
Just watched the gameplay on the spike feeders. This deck is crazy when it goes off. Good work!
200 bucks. This is why I don't care when someone tells me they have proxies
@McGrowlieJr I can understand that. My problem is I have older cards (Scalding Tarn for example) that I'm terrified to play since I've had cards stolen from me before. And I'm afraid to proxy since people may not believe I have the card
Yeah I generally stick to $25 for a reason haha
There are a couple of times when I like proxies.
1. Planning on buying a deck. Including reasonable proxies that you might possibly buy or include.
2. You actually have the card in the deck, but you don’t find it reasonable to buy multiple. I have doubling season, rhystic study, cyclonic rift etc, but it really isn’t reasonable for me to buy more than one.
3. You have the card, but there’s no way you want to take it out and play with it at your playgroup. I’ve got a sliver queen, but I play with kids often, and I don’t want to use my $50 reserved list card where somebody might get rough, bend it accidentally, or spill something on it.
4. The playgroup has somebody with a more expensive deck and you use proxies to match what they’re doing.
i'll spit in your face if you play proxies of cards you don't plan to purchase and that are over the $100 mark
@McGrowlieJr Thank you! Will do!
Take a shot every time he says "Competitive environment" lol love you're Vids
Just watched the episode but hot dam that was a glorious combo finish.
More of these please, there seem to be a ton of low budget deck techs but these higher ones are so rare.
I love when you publish upgrade videos in steps like this serie!
This is currently my favorite deck to play and your making it even better. You are most definitely the man!!!
Well thanks!
I'm building around her now and wonder how you would take a new look at this deck after kamigawa hits.
Mitch I still love playing this deck after 3 years! What would be some new cards you would say could be considered as a new must have? Meathook Massacre is one that comes to my mind
the links to the $200 decklist and the $200 only seem to be broken.
My apologies, they should be working now!
First gameplay video with Commander's Quarters
Yay
What I like to do for fun is play first with the usd25 version in a tournament. Then I add the reasonable upgrades and try again. If a break the bank exists I play with that the third time but now when I get around to teysa I can play it 4 times. I'm so excited for that and an excuse to buy demonic tutor and company. I want to do this with all of your deck techs so I got lots of edh to play. Currently putting the upgraded atraxa together but I'm eyeing nezahal atm because I like dinosaurs
The prices for Diabolic Tutor and Entomb… damn I wish I’d made this deck sooner lol
It's great seeing a competitive deck that costs well under $1,000 dollars!
It’s not actually competitive but it’s very good
Thanks for this. These includes bring my edgar markov deck to the next level.
Great content! Witty title could be Bankrupt but love the way you give affordable options!
My all-time favorite deck!! Love it!!!
sick deck. teysa is already good, with this level it's insane xD
So if you have Teysa and Phyrexian Alter on the field, do sacrifices from Phyrexian alter create two mana?
Actually she only impacts triggers, so that would still just be one mana since it’s an activated ability
I bought the 2019 morph deck and it’s super helpful to steal cards from. Same with the Gwyn brawl deck. Lot of applicable cards.
I won 2 games with revel in riches on turn 6 and both were 5 player games. I just recently made the deck and im having fun playing it. also GG on your 10 min win.
It’s a shame, a lot of the cards are way more expensive now, this would be well over 400 now
can we get an update for teysa 🥰🥰🙏🙏
Is Cartel Aristocrat still worth playing in this deck? Why not swap it out with Ayli for example?
Where's that phyrexian altar price coming from? It's like $16 tcg market right now
What about Phyrexian Tower?
Not sure Open the Armory is necessarily dead if you already have Skullclamp... now, if you also have Greaves and Boots as well ...
If anyone is wanting to build around Teysa…Dictate of Erebos. Get ready for your friends to hate you if they even let it stay on the battlefield for more than a turn or two.
Have you ever considered (or am I missing an existing) video on how-to build to a budget? I feel like it has to be more than "build a deck, and then fine worse versions of the cards you picked." I want to start trying to make more budget decks ($25-$50 sounds amazing), but not sure an ideal way to do so.
A couple of questions. Love this deck and I really like my Teysa build. A couple cards you have omitted that I'm curious about, Priest of the Forgotten Gods, Gutterbones (with or without Reassembling Skeleton because they both are easy to bring back), Seraph of the Scales and Nightmare Shepherd. What are your thoughts on adding those cards?
I saw that episode you were in...oof. Ya Orzof baby definitely performed no denying that, but...I don't get the appeal of that type of game. I like chain reactions where doing one thing generates a bunch of value, but the competitive scene takes that concept and turns it into a terrifying weapon...
But I digress. I'd love a little insight into why people see this type of magic fun. There was hardly any interaction from the other players in that game, and I just don't understand how they could say it was a good game when they didn't really get to even do anything. It only looked fun for the person that was winning(points at your invisible championship belt)
And now the big boi best deck with no budget !
Wait, what's the golden pig for this budget?
Budgetless Teysa Karlov pls!! :)
Dang, just watched the game, this deck is so dirty
Unless you have an EXTREME need for colored mana that your land base for some reason doesn't cover, removing prismatic lens for a charcoal diamond was a mistake I would say. I didn't watch the original deck tech but the best mana rocks are the ones that cost 2 or less and come in untapped, so if you aren't already using mindstone/thought vessel, those would also be better
saw your play in spike feeders damn that was fast and crazy
I know. I wish they would have played a second game.
@@ericlewi yah me too it's too damn fast ahahha
Yeah, that was very quick, but I don't think it showed the deck right, sure it won quick but most of the cards were just combo pieces, no removal or tutors were even used so it was what could happen rather then what will most likely happen.
Damn, teysa dope as hell
Indeed she is!
Woowwww...this commander is gettin a lot of looove everywhere.
I built her, took me about a week to decide that Teysa Orzhov Scion is just a better commander. Cheaper on the mana, and self generates value on top of being a repeatable removal effect. Teysa Karlov still makes the cut in the 99 as an amplifier and token utility card, but as a commander you just end up having to play worse cards on average than in 3 cmc Teysa and Karlov is just more awkward to get in play at the right time
. It's also easier to adjust between play groups, as removing Darkest Hour and/or tutors for it allow you to massively cut the auto win scenarios while still playing a powerful deck.
nice! i have almost the same exact deck, although i'm still missing like 4 key cards (dictate of erebos being the most important among them) nice to see you on Spike Feeders!
Have you seen the new sorin and do you think he's a good fit for the deck
New update from $100 to $200, less than 20 cards changed....seems legit
Some expensive cards to add in for sure
Well, I don't want to be negative because unreasona bly upgraded videos are not bad and are interesting to watch ... but at same time, I'd like to give some feedback.
I will note that out of last 10 videos, 5 deal with upgrading decks. So I am going to address this as if it is where channel is heading.
I started following this channel because of 15/25$ Tech techs which are very interesting and plausible to obtain (especially since they are great home for commons/uncommons and bulk rares). It manages to pull off making commander decks out of legendaries I would not consider playing and get me excited to try them.
100$+ Deck techs are quite out of budget range and more fit to channel with different mission (like being competitive). I personally do not follow those kind of channels much.
I will also note that upgrade /100+$ videos are getting less views than other videos published in similar time. I would attribute this to the fact that if people like the deck, they will be researching and upgrading it by themselves. I definitelly did that with Arcades deck for example.
My suggestion would be to to include reasonably upgraded section in future deck techs - because what is missing there is mostly saying what cards are best candidates for "out". And to rethink 100$ videos - my first idea would be to wait a bit and not post them back to back with original tech. Another would be to diversify - for example "inverse" where you take 25$ tech and shrink it down to 15$. Also, I feel that lots of deck techs could eventually use seccond look without change in price because card prices change and new cards are constantly being released.
In any case, thanks for lots of hard work!
I agree with you and I will say that I am way more interested in the $25 deck techs. However, 200 for a competitive EDH deck is a steal and I think does have a place on the channel, as its not just casual players that want to save money. Maybe just do them less frequently.
In Mitch's defense he built the deck for Spike Feeders. He didn't have to show us but I'm glad he did. It gave me insight how important tutors are in a singleton format.
@@ericlewi I am definitelly not arguing for never-ever doing this again. I just don't want it to overshadow other stuff he does.
@@wtfihavetoregister That's fair.
Guys can you update the reaper king deck?
Grand abolished was 6$ jeez
Is this still considered a focus deck or is this a competitive level deck now?
I might make this deck
Awesome!
Awesome intro music
this deck whooped ass! I love it
Why no Divine Visitation?
I'd love to see a "Break the Bank" video on Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker. Mainly because I suck at deck building.
So I am running this deck with a 600$ budget. But my infinite combo wasnt mentioned so I thought you'd like to know.
Phyrexian altar + gravecrawler + corpse knight. Boom. Instant win.
Yep this is what we've wanted for
Is the commander still not included in the price calculation?
Love how this is now $500
Great video! I have an Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim deck with a lot of the same cards, so I might just convert it to a Teysa deck. Having said that, I think Ayli would be a great sac outlet in this deck. She's basically Vindicate on a stick that can also gain you life if you're in a tight spot. Thoughts?
Mitch generally stays away from sac outlets you pay for. Good card for sure, but the 50 life required to use its second ability makes it circumstantial, it only puts in hard work when you're already doing well.
What are the combos?
Nice, keep it up
Thanks! Will do!
Hey there! I was gonna ask you something, I have laying around a Smokestack, a Martyr's Bond and a Divine Visitation inside my collection and I think they may be a good addition to the Deck but I'm not really sure, Would you mind please give me your opinion for each one of them? Like if they would be good or bad inside the Deck, And I love your Channel!
The $200 links aren’t working for me. Great vid though.
My apologies! They should work now!
I like these, I dont have the budget for it unless I save for like a year or more but still, nice deck tech to look forward to
I feel viskopa guild mage is not in any of these techs and I have no idea why. I've closed out games with this card. Underated maybe?
As of recent unbanning: Swap Teysa Karlov for Teysa, Orzhov Scion as the Commander, and add Painter's Servent/Darkest Hour for more combo ;) (and then you have my deck, pretty much =) )
Awesome!!
Please do Kozilek, The great distortion as a $100 break the bank
Gitrog monster! Join the Toad! Become the Toad!
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With teysa !!!!!
I'm running this commander on non-budget !!! 1000$$$ can you help me for that kind of budget for the best CEDH I can get with this commander ??
Phyrexian altar is now at more or less half of this lol.(108,25$ median)
I used the "$100" deck tech, but it came out to be $160ish, even after using the optimizer on tcgplayer.... Hope it is worth it.
Do a video on Odric, Lunarch Marshal for a commander
I like these $200 ones. It gets to a more realistic price for a decent deck that will hold its own. This may vary depending on what your group or environment plays. Unless you're all playing with a $25 budget, you're going to be blasted out of the waters.
Love this
Hi there, can You do Lavinia upgrade video too? Please and Thanks !
Does this mean we're not getting another Break The Bank for 2 weeks since you broke the bank twice?
Haha not quite - this was a special circumstance since that was the budget The Spike Feeders set for their gameplay episode
Where is the divine visitation to make all the things angels for all the things that care for specific things that die for them infinite combos? Like bishop of wings or requiem angel xD
Any way you'd offer shipping to Europe? I'd love one of those playmats.
Bro, leave the bank alone. It's already broken enough! XD
Buh gawd! That bank has a family!
- Jim
Love your videos. Can you do lazav the Multifarious $100
Just take all my money with this deck...
Elenda, the Dusk Rose is 20x better as a commander and Teysa Karlov as the 99. Its much better as a sacrifice deck that combos off if anyone else is using a creature based deck since you basically absorb all the death from the battlefield. Ill reply with my deck list if anyone wants
Please promise that when you film your own gameplay episodes that they have better sound than the Spike Feeders had...
....$100 and $200 Goreclaw wen?
Ah yes another budget for brudiclad
Do mimeoplasm
Do krenko mob boss
lets just add mana crypt
viedo done
^^
Still, 200$ for a competitive deck is very affordable for what you're getting.
Now we're in idgaf territory
This deck is probably worth double now. Shame.
Competitive commander? That's as silly as competitive Mario kart.
Shtaaahp it -- if I wanted to see expensive decks I would go to another TH-cam channel.
Either that or I'll have to go somewhere else for budget decks. It feels like over half your episodes are breaking the bank