Remember Mozilla forced their CEO Brendan Eich out due to his politics so he went and formed Brave. So in this case choosing a browser is a form of voting.
The only thing that makes avoid using Brave is there is no way to disable video and audio autoplay. There is no settings, they've removed the flags that allowed that. All extensions for that are broken and has no security. So annoying opening up some tabs and every tab you click the video starts without your will. Such thing doesn't happen on Firefox, especially on TH-cam.
As much as I enjoy Brave receiving jabs (rightfully so), I can't deny Firefox's lack of default privacy. The main reasons to use Firefox are: 1) resist the Chromium monopoly, and 2) keeping the other forks alive (Librewolf, TOR Browser, and Mullvad).
You should rarely have an inferior experience just because it's for a political stance or message, if you only use linux or firefox or other things to stick it to the big guy and not because there is some advantage you can get, you're probably an idiot that doesn't care about your time, really any message you could have sent, could be sent more efficiently if you had a better methodology for living your life.
“Resist the chromium monopoly “ is such a waste of effort What about resisting the linux monopoly? Chromium is open source, just change it to your liking. Its not like ppl are paying for multiple independent browser efforts.
2:48 After getting to know Keepass, I never stored any passwords within Firefox anymore. I still use the Firefox browser, but I do dig into the settings and tweak things related to privacy both in the general menus as in the about:config window before I download the bare essentials uBlock and Privacy Badger and begin browsing the web. In a way my setup is comparable to Librewolf but it's updated more often and is part of the general package repository of my distro.
Between default Brave and default Firefox it's a no contest which one is better it's Brave and by a lot. But with tinkering or using a fork like Librewolf FF becomes better.
been running brave now for a while, had to turn off the crypto bs and some of the other stuff they package in but on the whole I prefer it over Chrome.
@@tacticalcenter8658 Why should I have to go through the hassle of changing things when my preferred browser just does it right the first time without me having to meddle with it?
If we're talking about fiascos then there is no end for brave's, like with the donation fraud they did with tom scott, controversial rewards, ironically a different kind of advertising fiasco, affiliate links autocomplete manipulation, without consent vpn service installs, and every single instance it's about "we're sorry we got caught" afterwards. If all the weird a.i. and crypto and other bloat can be disabled and that's an argument for defending brave, then you can say that you can harden firefox too.
@@BlackTakGolD Those are all aspects of the browser that I don't touch. I have disabled most of that. It's not difficult to disable.Your rant hasn't dissuaded me.
On default ad blocking and privacy, surely having at least a default ad blocker is still better than having no ad blocker at all? On search engines, having used both, I don't think it's significantly more or less difficult to change it. I do find it very rich that they're citing it right after the privacy point though, considering their choice of default search engine. Local translation is something I value a lot, and would be a point for Firefox in my book. Unfortunately Firefox's built-in translator doesn't support most Asian languages, which makes it useless to me. Maybe it'll be added in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.
I use Brave and Librewolf. Regular Firefox's facility to block sound and autoplay doesn't seem to actually work, however, whereass Librewolf'd does work. Both browsers suit me fine.
I have no problem at changing a few settings in Brave, but, I have a few problems with political problems with FireFaux, that's moved it to 3rd on my list of Browsers. Brave Ungoogled Chromium, FireFaux, Chromium. IF I hear good things about Zen Browser they will be moved to third
I have never had Brave ad blocker break a website, unlike some other ad blockers on Firefox. Firefox doesn't even address the issue that they don't protect you from ads. If I'm using a search engine, I don't need to pick a different one each time I search. It's easy enough to change the default search engine in both of the browsers.
lets not forget to mention that firefox now has telemetry by default, brave dont. and i've used brave for like a year or 2 and i've never had an issue. nothing breaks lol. firefox is a joke, brave and librewolf are the only options for me. also i use brave search no matter what browser i use. and the same extensions
Nobody is mentioning the actual level of danger the Crypto ads Brave has by default(which I still haven't figured out how to disable). They're far more dangerous than online casinos. People are obviously falling for them if they can afford to buy the ad space.
I think there is a setting that says something like“block brave rewards icon” and I’m pretty sure that keeps the Crypto stuff from popping up. Tbh I set it up how I like it quite a bit ago, so I’m not 100% sure if that’s the setting, but I don’t think I’ve noticed any of the Crypto things for like the last 8-12 months. Hope that helps!
Google is already everywhere. If it's not Google Chrome, they are recording us on Android. Firefox and Brave are not going to stop anything more than annoying browser services. Google Chrome is fine if you know what you are getting.
They been woke, but our choices ar limited. So for me Firefox is now my $ 3 browser. IF I hear good things about Zen they will again, move down a notch
I remember I ditched mozilla when they were loudly saying that censoring "disinformation" from the web was going to be a big part of what they wanted to see
Brave FTW. With Firefox I had issues with a lot of the gaming sites I went to. Brave is just better. Sadly it's based on chromium but the entire web is written for chromium these days and Firefox went woke as hell
I've used about every browser for some period of time, I've searched far and wide for an actual good browser. I use my browser like a hoarder so I need good performance out of it, I also run my computer and browser until my computer forces an update on me, which I have already pushed as far as possible because I don't want to restart. I once had a screenshot of my screen and you know the top part where your tabs are, when there's enough tabs it just become like the logo because it's too cramped, well it was like that but I stacked different windows from the top of my screens to the bottom (had three screens at the time) btw this was not a stress test, it was simply my friend being curious on how many tabs I had open. chrome: I didn't like it because it starts to feel very sluggish with what I would call a moderate amount of tabs. extension support is there tho so that's good. sadly adblock stopped working (I think) brave: same thing as chrome but the issue is worst because brave in all it's glory decided that making a solid web browser wasn't enough so they needed to add "features" (or the way I call it bloat) I want a web browser with some amount of customization, bookmarks and extensions. Not a whole goddamn operating system. (I still use it on mobile for the integrated adblock) vivaldi: became sluggish after about a week of running straight, outside of that it was solid. opera gx: outside of being chinese spyware, I'll reiterate the point of wanting a web browser. Not an entire goddamn OS also it feels very sluggish without any tabs open compared to other browsers even while they're loaded up with tabs (I generally spend in between a week to 6 months trying out browsers when I wanted to find a good browser, I spent 3 days with opera good fwcking riddance) ungoogled chromium: suffers most of the same problems as chrome minus some privacy concerns Firefox: The one which I always end up coming back to, no matter how much I try to find alternatives it just comes around full circle. Now it ain't all sunshines and rainbows I once had a bug where none of my accounts would log into firefox, websites included (the reason for the great search for a browser) and yeah if you're wondering the reason I'm using nightly is because firefox is still being a bytch after nearly a year of it's bullcrap also it's firefox which went on the crusade of a million tabs. it does feel sluggish, but when you get to that point instead of outright crashing you can keep going and going which is why I like it. edge: pffff 50 tabs and it's already begging to be put down tldr: firefox is the only browser which can support my crippling hoarding habits without ever crashing for years and I do mean it, if I open my old firefox now I'm going to be assaulted by about 20 different windows and a couple thousand tabs, some that were opened 2 or 3 years ago and never touched since.
It means idealogically compromised with pro-Dei policies, which as a user. You should be warned as it means you will have a lesser product as thanks to not hiring people based upon merit.
this has been my experience too both in Linux and Windows. My laptop is not old, it was one of the most powerful laptop APU in 2021 (Ryzen 7 4800u) so there's no issue with hardware.
On a Mac. it's Brave first, Safari occasionally -- it's also a lot better than it used to be. I used to be a massive FF fan, but, lately, nah. It used to be my default on Linux, and across all other platforms, but it's now Brave. I wish I didn't have to use a Chromium browser, and I really liked Gecko, but for the time being, needs must. Plus, Brave is _incredibly_ fast on every platform I've found, and consumes the least resources, even with many tabs open.
I have no dog in the fight (obviously) and will continue using both (although for different purposes) but - and u might touch this later, just have no time to watch the entire vid - the issue of those hundreds of millions of USD Google pays to Mozilla to keep the lights on... is a bit questionable (to be very charitable). I don't doubt Firefox might have best intentions - but when someone's dangling your survivor over you - ahhhhhhh... u might do some "under the table" things. In short - I respect both, don't trust either 100%.
I do find it annoying when companies pick on a specific other company and say how bad they are compared to you, why not just tell about the good stuff in your product instead of complaining on others, I switched from Firefox to Brave a few years ago, I would be ok with using Firefox though, do people trust default settings in a browser ? don't they look through the settings and disable all junk they don't like ?
I also use both on various operating systems, on older and newer hardware, Firefox and all its forks has only one thing over Brave, on Linux they will trigger the virtual keyboard on a tablet PC, that is it, Brave is superior in every meaning full way, except for the one I mention, Firefox requires additional software to support PWA, to block adds and trackers, and its profile support is difficult to use, also the sync feature requires a login and account, which I hate, its also slower, and its TH-cam performance is terrible, specially on lower powered hardware, stupid PIP feature requires finding and killing, Firefox has constant popup hints that you need to disable, it has tracking and crap automatically enable and requires you to turn it off, in full screen with a PWA and on a touch first device, your screwed, you can get out of full screen, there is a long, long list of the issues I have found using Firefox, is basically crap and I would only use it, if I couldn't use Brave, and on Android, Kiwi Browser is king, and all other browsers are just rubbish skinned versions of Chrome, including Brave.
ahh yess I thought I was going crazy on the sluggish Firefox performance compared to Brave. I've uninstalled Firefox and went Brave path, no looking back.
@@steeltormentors Yes and its very noticeable on older slower hardware, if your using a modern fast machine, you may not see any difference, but on 8th gen Intel and older you definitely can, and most people with older hardware do turn to Linux and alternative software, even on a M series 7th gen, I find Brave much more responsive, specially with TH-cam.
According to Google: "Peter Thiel is a self-described conservative libertarian. Since the late 2010s, he has espoused support for national conservatism, and criticized economically liberal attitudes towards free trade and big tech." These "liberal attitudes". What they exactly mean? Because "liberal" in the USA is perceived as someone that is left-wing, on the other hand, in the general world, liberal is someone who follows the economic liberalism which is a right-wing political agenda. I don't get it to be honest.
I was wondering if I was the only one that used multiple browsers. I mostly use Brave. Only complaint is that it takes longer to load than the others. I use Firefox mostly when I play with web development. I do use Chrome for banking. (For some stupid reason the only two browsers I can log into my bank with is Chrome and Edge. Used Edge for that in my Windows days, otherwise DuckDuckGo when I go slumming in Windows.* (Why my bank does that is beyond me as I think these are the two least secure browsers. I was told I could with Firefox but it has never worked for me. Also can't log in if using a VPN.🤔). I do use TOR every once in a while. I never let them share anything between themselves. As another person mentioned, I love the absence of YT ads in Brave. (*Have to still have to use Windows when making setting changes in my guitar amp. Heck, when I feel nostalgic I boot into OS/2. It's sometimes good to see how far we have come.)
Honestly? This Vs. stuff make me sick. Treat browsers like tools, not some vote candidate. Use whatever works best for you and don't be afraid of having multiple installed for different needs.
lol iphone better? well this guy's lost his mind. browsers on iphone are all safari android is the same"ish" browser as PC so yea i'll stick to android
I think you have a TOTAL misunderstanding of the things I am saying. The comments on Android and iPhone are NOT about browsers (as I clearly said at the beginning). If you watch that part again, it is about the overall PRIVACY OF THE PHONE. If you are not modding,rooting,etc, the iPhone is better for privacy. If you are modding your phone, Android is better. The browsers (on desktop) are the same. If you are not modding, Brave is better for privacy, if you are modding, Firefox is better. Yes, I KNOW that all the browsers on the mobile platforms are based on the engine for that platform, and that is why I said this video is about desktop browsers.
I don't care at all what arguments go on behind the scenes. That's just more politics, as you reference. Firefox is great to me because it's not Chromium.
Firefox is based on Gecko. Brave is based on Chromium. I have Vivaldi for that. EDIT: Darn, after watching this video, I need to re-evaluate my options.
Brave is bloated, firefox isnt. It is not capable by itself to do all things that librewolf kr mullvad are able to do. To be realistic the vast majority of people who value their privacy, they can choose the extension they want to get the features they need and only the necessary once for them. Brave has more features out of the box but you also have all the stuff most people dont need or know what it truly does. No person valuing privacy on a level of the features not available in firefox would prefer brave because they essentially have an extension integrated. The creator and privacy of the integration in brave is chosen for you. Also anyone caring about privacy has the very basic knowledge to install ublock origin on chrome. If you don't, you dont value privacy.
I think it's too late for miracles here in the US. The USA is a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. And when a certain female gets installed, kiss this place Goooood-bye
Remember Mozilla forced their CEO Brendan Eich out due to his politics so he went and formed Brave. So in this case choosing a browser is a form of voting.
Yep.
The only thing that makes avoid using Brave is there is no way to disable video and audio autoplay. There is no settings, they've removed the flags that allowed that. All extensions for that are broken and has no security.
So annoying opening up some tabs and every tab you click the video starts without your will. Such thing doesn't happen on Firefox, especially on TH-cam.
@@elonmushen Well that and its just another chromium fork
@@cholst1 What's that have to do with what I said?
Due to his politics of being anti gay marriage
As much as I enjoy Brave receiving jabs (rightfully so), I can't deny Firefox's lack of default privacy. The main reasons to use Firefox are: 1) resist the Chromium monopoly, and 2) keeping the other forks alive (Librewolf, TOR Browser, and Mullvad).
The only reason Firefox is still around is because Google signs their paychecks 😊
Like your channel btw 😊 keep up the good work
You should rarely have an inferior experience just because it's for a political stance or message, if you only use linux or firefox or other things to stick it to the big guy and not because there is some advantage you can get, you're probably an idiot that doesn't care about your time, really any message you could have sent, could be sent more efficiently if you had a better methodology for living your life.
@@myekuntz "Google signs their paychecks" Unfortunately true.
Thanks, very much appreciated.
“Resist the chromium monopoly “ is such a waste of effort
What about resisting the linux monopoly? Chromium is open source, just change it to your liking.
Its not like ppl are paying for multiple independent browser efforts.
2:48 After getting to know Keepass, I never stored any passwords within Firefox anymore. I still use the Firefox browser, but I do dig into the settings and tweak things related to privacy both in the general menus as in the about:config window before I download the bare essentials uBlock and Privacy Badger and begin browsing the web.
In a way my setup is comparable to Librewolf but it's updated more often and is part of the general package repository of my distro.
I just discovered Waterfox. It's surprisingly light.
Between default Brave and default Firefox it's a no contest which one is better it's Brave and by a lot. But with tinkering or using a fork like Librewolf FF becomes better.
Unless I’ve missed something, if you have to turn it off, it IS enabled by default. You had to turn that stuff off in Brave, not turn it on.
Brave. I haven't seen a YT ad in 6 years.
I've probably encountered 6 years of YT ads had I watched them. 😅
Netflix ads still get through though, had to install an extension just for that.
I'm using Firefox and haven't seen a YT ad in over 6 years. But I might still give Brave a go.
been running brave now for a while, had to turn off the crypto bs and some of the other stuff they package in but on the whole I prefer it over Chrome.
you do know brave is just a skin on top of chrome, right?
I much prefer Brave to Firefox. The largest issue I have with FF is the advertising data fiasco. I refuse to accept it.
Then use mitigations for FF.
@@tacticalcenter8658 Why should I have to go through the hassle of changing things when my preferred browser just does it right the first time without me having to meddle with it?
I agree bleep FF
If we're talking about fiascos then there is no end for brave's, like with the donation fraud they did with tom scott, controversial rewards, ironically a different kind of advertising fiasco, affiliate links autocomplete manipulation, without consent vpn service installs, and every single instance it's about "we're sorry we got caught" afterwards. If all the weird a.i. and crypto and other bloat can be disabled and that's an argument for defending brave, then you can say that you can harden firefox too.
@@BlackTakGolD Those are all aspects of the browser that I don't touch. I have disabled most of that. It's not difficult to disable.Your rant hasn't dissuaded me.
Liking two Firefox forks: Zen and Librewolf.
+1 librewolf - the only thing that annoys me sometimes is that it freezes while accessing Claude or chatgpt
@@etziowingeler3173 with gpt etc, you are giving them all your data and it fingerprints you.
I use librewolf, mullvad browser, and tor
I just recently discovered Zen.Just haven't really used it because I'm still a little gun shy , but maybe.
Zen is amazing alternative that I put my effort in for the last 2 months. Loving the sidebar and esthetics.
On default ad blocking and privacy, surely having at least a default ad blocker is still better than having no ad blocker at all?
On search engines, having used both, I don't think it's significantly more or less difficult to change it. I do find it very rich that they're citing it right after the privacy point though, considering their choice of default search engine.
Local translation is something I value a lot, and would be a point for Firefox in my book. Unfortunately Firefox's built-in translator doesn't support most Asian languages, which makes it useless to me. Maybe it'll be added in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.
I use Brave and Librewolf. Regular Firefox's facility to block sound and autoplay doesn't seem to actually work, however, whereass Librewolf'd does work. Both browsers suit me fine.
I've never had any problems with Firefox.
Seems like Firefox is for convenience rather than privacy.
Always use Arkenfox
I have no problem at changing a few settings in Brave, but,
I have a few problems with political problems with FireFaux, that's moved it to 3rd on my list of Browsers.
Brave Ungoogled Chromium, FireFaux, Chromium. IF I hear good things about Zen Browser they will be moved to third
Owls need HUGS
@@Margen67 correct
I have never had Brave ad blocker break a website, unlike some other ad blockers on Firefox. Firefox doesn't even address the issue that they don't protect you from ads. If I'm using a search engine, I don't need to pick a different one each time I search. It's easy enough to change the default search engine in both of the browsers.
19:55 I just spat out my food, an iphone being more private than an android is the most absurd statement I have heard all day
Brave and occasionally LibreWolf.
Firefox makes it easy for you to choose your default search engine, as long as it's Google...
If only Firefox was brave enough to make an actual good browser as they make up stories about their goodness.
I use both, mostly because my Bank likes Fire
Fox on linux
40:20 You can turn off any notifications in regular Brave settings. No need for shenanigans for it... DUH
Any, not all.
@@SwitchedtoLinux It's there, it's called "Don't allow sites to send notifications".
PrivacyTests is essential.
So are many other things that PT doesn't cover.
Brave lacks capability to use French dictionary spell check.
Je m’en fous
lets not forget to mention that firefox now has telemetry by default, brave dont.
and i've used brave for like a year or 2 and i've never had an issue. nothing breaks lol. firefox is a joke, brave and librewolf are the only options for me. also i use brave search no matter what browser i use. and the same extensions
Librewolf is my default but if something doesn't work then I go to Brave. KeepassXC w/out the xtention is my password manager. No issues here.
Nobody is mentioning the actual level of danger the Crypto ads Brave has by default(which I still haven't figured out how to disable).
They're far more dangerous than online casinos. People are obviously falling for them if they can afford to buy the ad space.
I think there is a setting that says something like“block brave rewards icon” and I’m pretty sure that keeps the Crypto stuff from popping up.
Tbh I set it up how I like it quite a bit ago, so I’m not 100% sure if that’s the setting, but I don’t think I’ve noticed any of the Crypto things for like the last 8-12 months.
Hope that helps!
I use brave, which ads do you mean?
The big splash pages are legit protocols. Used to contribute to one that advertised on it regularly.
Thank you. I guess Zen Browser would score well, too.
Been using it lately myself, liking it a lot.
Domt use Chromium unless Google is fully removed
Google is already everywhere. If it's not Google Chrome, they are recording us on Android. Firefox and Brave are not going to stop anything more than annoying browser services. Google Chrome is fine if you know what you are getting.
@@trappedcat3615fed
@@tacticalcenter8658 Either that or just clueless.
With the abundance of browser available, I ONLY use Chromium (with appropriate extensions) For TH-cam
Google rules the internet, you can't avoid it as w3bsltes are all tested to work in Google Chrome. Google is the default like it or not!
Brave gets my vote
WokeZilla: "Brave has many flaws. FireFox is better!"
Brave: "What's that noise? Does anyone else hear a mouse squeaking?"
Translating and editing PDF's? That's Not a Browsers Job Firefox!
Translation of web pages is critical for many people. Firefox local translation is subpar. Edge is doing much better for that (and only for that).
firefox? oh no. gone woke. no thanks
They been woke, but our choices ar limited. So
for me Firefox is now my $ 3 browser.
IF I hear good things about Zen they will again, move down a notch
I remember I ditched mozilla when they were loudly saying that censoring "disinformation" from the web was going to be a big part of what they wanted to see
Both sucks in their own way.
I keep Firefox as a backup, but much prefer Brave.
same
I'll stick with firefox. i don't trust google code.
Google's services vs open source chromium are 2 different things entirely
Brave FTW. With Firefox I had issues with a lot of the gaming sites I went to. Brave is just better. Sadly it's based on chromium but the entire web is written for chromium these days and Firefox went woke as hell
I've used about every browser for some period of time, I've searched far and wide for an actual good browser. I use my browser like a hoarder so I need good performance out of it, I also run my computer and browser until my computer forces an update on me, which I have already pushed as far as possible because I don't want to restart. I once had a screenshot of my screen and you know the top part where your tabs are, when there's enough tabs it just become like the logo because it's too cramped, well it was like that but I stacked different windows from the top of my screens to the bottom (had three screens at the time) btw this was not a stress test, it was simply my friend being curious on how many tabs I had open.
chrome: I didn't like it because it starts to feel very sluggish with what I would call a moderate amount of tabs. extension support is there tho so that's good. sadly adblock stopped working (I think)
brave: same thing as chrome but the issue is worst because brave in all it's glory decided that making a solid web browser wasn't enough so they needed to add "features" (or the way I call it bloat) I want a web browser with some amount of customization, bookmarks and extensions. Not a whole goddamn operating system. (I still use it on mobile for the integrated adblock)
vivaldi: became sluggish after about a week of running straight, outside of that it was solid.
opera gx: outside of being chinese spyware, I'll reiterate the point of wanting a web browser. Not an entire goddamn OS also it feels very sluggish without any tabs open compared to other browsers even while they're loaded up with tabs (I generally spend in between a week to 6 months trying out browsers when I wanted to find a good browser, I spent 3 days with opera good fwcking riddance)
ungoogled chromium: suffers most of the same problems as chrome minus some privacy concerns
Firefox: The one which I always end up coming back to, no matter how much I try to find alternatives it just comes around full circle. Now it ain't all sunshines and rainbows I once had a bug where none of my accounts would log into firefox, websites included (the reason for the great search for a browser) and yeah if you're wondering the reason I'm using nightly is because firefox is still being a bytch after nearly a year of it's bullcrap also it's firefox which went on the crusade of a million tabs. it does feel sluggish, but when you get to that point instead of outright crashing you can keep going and going which is why I like it.
edge: pffff 50 tabs and it's already begging to be put down
tldr: firefox is the only browser which can support my crippling hoarding habits without ever crashing for years and I do mean it, if I open my old firefox now I'm going to be assaulted by about 20 different windows and a couple thousand tabs, some that were opened 2 or 3 years ago and never touched since.
What does that mean - "going woke"?
I've seen this a number of times now ...
@@kumbah2006 It means they've been ideologically compromised.
It means idealogically compromised with pro-Dei policies, which as a user. You should be warned as it means you will have a lesser product as thanks to not hiring people based upon merit.
I like brave, firefox on Linux is extremely glitchy and sluggish, especially when watching yourtube or amazon prime..basically the streaming services.
this has been my experience too both in Linux and Windows. My laptop is not old, it was one of the most powerful laptop APU in 2021 (Ryzen 7 4800u) so there's no issue with hardware.
Ill stick to LibreWolf. Glad I already made the switch earlier this year. BTW, give ZEN browser a look (another source-fork of Gecko/FireFox).
Firefox knows brave is better infact Firefox has always been a shill
Firefox Android has a huge advantage: ublock origin extension!
Are you on nostr?
Both great browsers. Only issue with Brave is based on chrome engine, and already enforces the horribly limit v3 manifest.
THE read winner is the web browser that can still block ads on TH-cam AND Rumble.
On a Mac. it's Brave first, Safari occasionally -- it's also a lot better than it used to be. I used to be a massive FF fan, but, lately, nah. It used to be my default on Linux, and across all other platforms, but it's now Brave. I wish I didn't have to use a Chromium browser, and I really liked Gecko, but for the time being, needs must.
Plus, Brave is _incredibly_ fast on every platform I've found, and consumes the least resources, even with many tabs open.
~
For the newbs out there (like me) - 'FOSS' stands for Free & Open-Source Software.
Brave ❤️
I have no dog in the fight (obviously) and will continue using both (although for different purposes) but - and u might touch this later, just have no time to watch the entire vid - the issue of those hundreds of millions of USD Google pays to Mozilla to keep the lights on... is a bit questionable (to be very charitable). I don't doubt Firefox might have best intentions - but when someone's dangling your survivor over you - ahhhhhhh... u might do some "under the table" things. In short - I respect both, don't trust either 100%.
betterfox has a reasonable user.js file you can add into your firefox profile settings
I use brave. No youtube ads is the reason - firefox doesn"r block any of those on mobile.
I do find it annoying when companies pick on a specific other company and say how bad they are compared to you, why not just tell about the good stuff in your product instead of complaining on others, I switched from Firefox to Brave a few years ago, I would be ok with using Firefox though, do people trust default settings in a browser ? don't they look through the settings and disable all junk they don't like ?
Brave is great except for the logo that's shaped like a coffin and the crypto bloatware.
I wonder how hardened Firefox would fair in these testings, specially Arkenfox and Betterfox user.js.
Just look at libre wolf and mullvad for the next closest thing in the tests, hardened ff trades blows fs
I also use both on various operating systems, on older and newer hardware, Firefox and all its forks has only one thing over Brave, on Linux they will trigger the virtual keyboard on a tablet PC, that is it, Brave is superior in every meaning full way, except for the one I mention, Firefox requires additional software to support PWA, to block adds and trackers, and its profile support is difficult to use, also the sync feature requires a login and account, which I hate, its also slower, and its TH-cam performance is terrible, specially on lower powered hardware, stupid PIP feature requires finding and killing, Firefox has constant popup hints that you need to disable, it has tracking and crap automatically enable and requires you to turn it off, in full screen with a PWA and on a touch first device, your screwed, you can get out of full screen, there is a long, long list of the issues I have found using Firefox, is basically crap and I would only use it, if I couldn't use Brave, and on Android, Kiwi Browser is king, and all other browsers are just rubbish skinned versions of Chrome, including Brave.
ahh yess I thought I was going crazy on the sluggish Firefox performance compared to Brave. I've uninstalled Firefox and went Brave path, no looking back.
@@steeltormentors Yes and its very noticeable on older slower hardware, if your using a modern fast machine, you may not see any difference, but on 8th gen Intel and older you definitely can, and most people with older hardware do turn to Linux and alternative software, even on a M series 7th gen, I find Brave much more responsive, specially with TH-cam.
I had better experience in floorp than Firefox
I use both, but prefer Brave because of firefox's wokey politics. Brave also blocks a whole lot more ads by default.
According to Google: "Peter Thiel is a self-described conservative libertarian. Since the late 2010s, he has espoused support for national conservatism, and criticized economically liberal attitudes towards free trade and big tech."
These "liberal attitudes". What they exactly mean? Because "liberal" in the USA is perceived as someone that is left-wing, on the other hand, in the general world, liberal is someone who follows the economic liberalism which is a right-wing political agenda.
I don't get it to be honest.
just to point it out since you said that PrivacyTests is a 3rd party > the person running it works for Brave
Brave should ignore it..
Brave is what you use if you care about your browser lol
(I'm like half joking when I say that)
Based on quantum not firefox;at least as far as i know it is the engine used by firefox and its forks
Firefox is my choice for 5 years, cheers
GET ALONG...WE LOVE YOU BOTH !!!!
I was wondering if I was the only one that used multiple browsers. I mostly use Brave. Only complaint is that it takes longer to load than the others. I use Firefox mostly when I play with web development. I do use Chrome for banking. (For some stupid reason the only two browsers I can log into my bank with is Chrome and Edge. Used Edge for that in my Windows days, otherwise DuckDuckGo when I go slumming in Windows.* (Why my bank does that is beyond me as I think these are the two least secure browsers. I was told I could with Firefox but it has never worked for me. Also can't log in if using a VPN.🤔). I do use TOR every once in a while. I never let them share anything between themselves.
As another person mentioned, I love the absence of YT ads in Brave.
(*Have to still have to use Windows when making setting changes in my guitar amp. Heck, when I feel nostalgic I boot into OS/2. It's sometimes good to see how far we have come.)
Mozilla straight up Lying!
For years ive always referred firefox with the four letter f word with fire it😂
Brave vs Firefox bla bla bla
Let me be honest with FF devs, none of these arguments matter to me.
Brave supports web3 technology by default, Firefox does not.
Honestly? This Vs. stuff make me sick. Treat browsers like tools, not some vote candidate. Use whatever works best for you and don't be afraid of having multiple installed for different needs.
Vivaldi ftw
FF may be bad, but I’m not going to use another Chromium-based browser no matter what, that would just mean supporting Google’s monopoly over the web.
there is no comparison, Brave is 1000times better and Thorium is better than brave...
I dropped Firefox cause they went woke 😊
I use librewolf and brave
firefox doesn't have an adblocker. that's an addon
If you use “Enhanced Tracking Protection” setting, that happens to remove lots of ads because they rely on trackers
I DON'T USE FIREFOX.
lol iphone better? well this guy's lost his mind. browsers on iphone are all safari android is the same"ish" browser as PC so yea i'll stick to android
I think you have a TOTAL misunderstanding of the things I am saying. The comments on Android and iPhone are NOT about browsers (as I clearly said at the beginning). If you watch that part again, it is about the overall PRIVACY OF THE PHONE. If you are not modding,rooting,etc, the iPhone is better for privacy. If you are modding your phone, Android is better. The browsers (on desktop) are the same. If you are not modding, Brave is better for privacy, if you are modding, Firefox is better.
Yes, I KNOW that all the browsers on the mobile platforms are based on the engine for that platform, and that is why I said this video is about desktop browsers.
Well hope Mozilla doesn't get themselves in legal trouble but they have been venturing into ms territory it seems
Brave is just Chrome. Floorp is a better firefox!
" iPhone is more Private than Android "
I needed a good joke to wake me up cuz the coffee ain't working.
"When we last met, I was the student, but now, I'm the master"
- Brendan Eich , probably
I don't care at all what arguments go on behind the scenes. That's just more politics, as you reference. Firefox is great to me because it's not Chromium.
And extra comment to help fight the Al Gores of the world plus it helps feed the kitties.
"It uses the tor system but it does not do what tor does" why comment on topics you dont know about?
Yes, why are you doing that?
Firefox is based on Gecko. Brave is based on Chromium. I have Vivaldi for that.
EDIT: Darn, after watching this video, I need to re-evaluate my options.
Vote Brave because they have big kitty Leo 😂
So a fox and a lion get into a fight...
Firefox is woke as hell. No thanks! Will continue to use Brave.
Brave is best. Much faster and full of features and privacy. Much better than Chrome and Firefox.
Brave is bloated, firefox isnt. It is not capable by itself to do all things that librewolf kr mullvad are able to do. To be realistic the vast majority of people who value their privacy, they can choose the extension they want to get the features they need and only the necessary once for them. Brave has more features out of the box but you also have all the stuff most people dont need or know what it truly does. No person valuing privacy on a level of the features not available in firefox would prefer brave because they essentially have an extension integrated. The creator and privacy of the integration in brave is chosen for you. Also anyone caring about privacy has the very basic knowledge to install ublock origin on chrome. If you don't, you dont value privacy.
Let's crypto!! Firefox, select options to out.
Firefox all the way for me.
i notic you laff about the election good you need a merical from the lord crist.
Can you repeat this sentence in English perhaps?
And you need to learn how to spell.
I think it's too late for miracles here in the US.
The USA is a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
And when a certain female gets installed, kiss this place Goooood-bye
I can't understand your 2200's era English.
@@SwitchedtoLinuxmy best guess:
I notice you laugh about the election. Good. You need a miracle from the Lord
😅
Spoiler, Brave is better