The thought of this demon hunting her literally mid-flight to her own future and sabotaging her whole life as a hunting trophy will haunt me for weeks.
It's giving Stockholm Syndrome. Also, I think the only reason he lets her do the pageants is because it reflects well on him to have a beauty queen wife and elevates him in patriarchy.
The whole thing reads like he's just "allowing" her to do some things, but only because it benefits him as well. If it were just for her, it's a big NOPE
And he was happy she lost. A good man would celebrate his woman's successes and be truly disappointed on her behalf when she loses something she values.
Not her income, nothing under her name... its all his. She is just the livestock that he breeds so he doesn't have to hire more farmhands when he has baby livestocks to help with the labour. @witnessforchrist7778
What I’ve noticed is really rich people enjoy having an intentionally harder life when they don’t need to. It’s like they are trying to prove the bootstraps saying true.
Girl 🤣 same. As if they are trying to prove a point by showing how hard they work or something by adding unnecessary pain and children in their lives 😅
i saw someone on tiktok refer to the whole movement (the wealth + conservatism = fArM thing, specifically) as “theater” and that is soooo goddamn true. they’re just in lil costumes playing pretend
It’s kind of like being a PK. like if you’re the preacher’s kid, you go out of your way to do bad things to prove that you’re not a goody two shoes. And they do it in the worst way.
As someone with a lot of siblings I know there is no way that you can give each child adequate attention unless you have a lot of help. Otherwise, the kids raise themselves or the older ones wind up taking care of the younger ones.
Yup. And with fathers often emotionally or otherwise detached from the families in the often conservative big family setups, the moms just can't give each kid the attention and guidance they so much need. It does create issues.
Yes. You can tell that the writer is educated about the signs of abuse. She's pointing out all the signs without pointing them out. She's a brilliant journalist
I found you on TikTok compilations. I don’t have a TikTok so I was so glad you made a TH-cam channel! Thank you so much for your insightful content. I’m a single woman who is 31 years of age and I find this article so disconcerting. I have a STEM masters and have spent 6 years in biotechnology. I’m going back to grad school. I’ve been told pursuing another degree will push me further away from “good men”. But in the past I’ve had a guy say to after our 3rd virtual date that he can’t move forward because he has a bachelors and I have a masters and he believed I’m too into my work. I’ve already lost this ridiculous fight so why bother sacrificing my future for an ambiguous future dream man?
That was good of him to tell you how insecure he is before wasting any more of your time it sounds like you’re doing a lot of great things in your own life that’s already a win
A truly good man will never force you to humiliate yourself or endure hardships for his sake. if he has problems with your education, work, friends, pets, hobbies... run
My baby was six months old when I left my abusive husband. We had moved to a new town so I had noone. I didn't have a car or much money. And no phone because he broke it. I left literally barefoot with my baby and a blanket in my arms and knocked on a stranger's door (a risk, I know). They called the police. Thankfully I live in a country where single mothers are supported and domestic violence isn't tolerated. After leaving it was such a relief I could just enjoy my baby boy without the stress of an abuser. I could raise him in peace. He's now a teen. We're doing great 😊 Although I'll add that I don't think I could've done this in America. Very tough for sole parents over there.
I always side eye anything pushing 'family values' and 'tradition'. Both terms involve control of women and children through religious dogma and violence.
Same. Because over and over again throughout my 40 years of life, I've watched the "traditional family values" types consistently turn out to be some of the worst human beings I've ever encountered.
There’s more toxicity within a controlling family that’s “traditional”. The kids go out of control because of the tight grip of control from their very parents. They don’t allow anyone to be their authentic self
It's sounds like depression. Back in the days, it was very common for women to lay in the bed for months because most of them were depressed and were dying early. And obviously the daughter are going to get used as Mini mothers to raise the kids their parents can't stop reproducing 🙄
This story is so freaking dystopian and plain sad! But also motivating to go and work on my own projects and live my life as I have envisioned it. Thank you for covering it.
Yep i had this older man just after me for weeks but my intuition was just like no. And i wasn’t all that attracted to him but i gave him a chance anyway and he ended up using me for sex for four months before he declared he wasnt looking for a relationship or commitment. (Knowing that i was) I broke it off angry that i even gave him the time of day and he was with a new girl the very next day whom he has been in a relationship with now for 2 years. Grrr 😡 it makes me so mad!!
I have literally never in my life clicked on any trad wife content and I never will. I get enough of it through people tearing it apart. Thank you for all of the work that you put in this.
Thank you for including the bit about animal abuse with these types of men. Alot of people have seem to gloss over that or missed that detail. These men tend to over dramatize their "masculine" role that theyll abuse animals like roosters who are just doing their job instead of engage in proper animal training. Ive been around these types of men and have always worried for the animals
I don’t like how they met at all, he tries to make it seem like it was the fates that orchestrated their plane flight but to me it seemed like an obsessive man that was not going to let her go until he got her within his grasp 😢 She still does ballet here and there, still wanting to dance but trapped in a cage on a farm
To your point, the husband is rich. I don’t think Hannah controls any significant amount of money. She’s stuck in that relationship. She has numerous children and few resources if she decided to leave.
Yeah which is why she should’ve completed her degree at julliard and got on birth control or something. She actually had options. If she wanted to leave she could! There are women in more extreme situations who leave everyday 🤷🏽♀️
As if leaving (in an abusive relationship idk the woman but she's in a highly controlling one) is easy and not potentially dangerous. For her it would mean risking not seeing her kids again, being ostracized (she seems pretty isolated in not online socializing), and the well being of her kids. Being a single mother post controlling relationship with little resources often means being an unhoused mom and that assumes she's willing to leave. Even if she happily agrees with patriarchy materially she's dependent and can't disagree without severe risk. And if you can't safely disagree... Well I'm not gonna spell that out. I might disagree with her beliefs and actions but I won't pretend there's little risk of her. Those women in more extreme situations do so at great risk but aren't the end all. Many in more extreme scenarios try to leave and literally don't survive. Literal survivor bias..thats a terrible pun. Many in less physical risk don't leave because processing that you're in a controlling or abusive is traumatic and the brain chooses survival over truth in most cases. Not to forget the Mormonism of it all which is a high control group/cult. (Not to mention abusive/controlling families demonstrate similar structures to cults) Should she leave? Probably. Will it be easy? No. Will a bunch of strangers judging this woman in a high control scenario and possibly abusive one help her or people in situations like her? No.
@@mellowthm566 You’re reading my comment as judgment. I actually was responding to someone in another comment who did understand why a “rich” woman can’t just pay for help herself. I see Hannah’s marriage as an extremely abusive relationship. I’m not passing judgment on Hannah, she fell into a trap a decade ago. I don’t know how she can escape. Her husband keeps her physically isolated, without access to money, without access to transportation, burdened with unending labor, and pregnant. We should talk about her circumstances to educate ourselves and the young women coming behind us about how to avoid ending up literally barefoot and pregnant with no autonomy or authority in our own lives.
@@laughingshaman1 i wasn't replying to you that's why I paraphrases the above poster who compared "women in more extreme situations". I assumed we were commenting in the same vein and I'm well happy is a weird word considering the topic but more people approaching DV ( or high control/ structural power difference in relationships since we're talking about strangers) with nuance and compassion is good. Comparisons between victims of abuse don't really help anyone so that's why my response was worded that way. The adage just leave is also well frustrating and common because of the spike in danger even if you escape.
I used to follow a few homemakers here on TH-cam. They’ve gone from housewives to fully trad wives with tons of kids. It’s a facade. I also find it funny how “trad” wives make so much money on social media that their husbands quit their jobs and work their “work the farm” (with her making the money and doing all the work). She’s the breadwinner yet they’re “traditional”.
I feel bad for her. Her life sounds awful. A man who loves you will support your dreams and goals and also make life easier for you. He’s going to impregnate her again just watch
Until she is unalived. And if that happen within a week later he will find a new incubator. This is why women need to know better and have boundaries 🤦🏻♀️
I remember dating a guy in and a after university who gave me the vibe of wanting to be married because it was apart of his fantasy or his life goals check list and not because he loved me. At the I broke up with him after moving to my current location, but at the time I did not understand why I kept breaking up with him. Now in my thirties and with lots of retrospection, introspection, and learning about different relationships dynamics; I understand that my intuition was actually protecting me from a controlling situation with all of my needs neglected. I feel for her and I hope things workout for her and the kids.
Her and her kids are doing great. Don't believe all this stuff this is just people hate to see anyone happy doing something different. Women are only allowed to be wage slaves miserable. If women do anything out of the norm and are truly happy every wants to tear them down instead of just being happy for them.
I will admit I’m a Christian and growing up especially in high school I had an obsession with getting married etc. I’m glad I’m reevaluating myself at 24 and my decisions because I’m not married or have children and don’t know it’s the path I wanna take because relationships haven’t been my forte and I just haven’t had the results I wanted so it’s best to focus on myself and what I want out of life
Congrats on figuring that out about yourself in time, that's huge. Whatever your beliefs, you know yourself best, and you can make the best choices for yourself. So many women don't realise they have agency until after life changing events, like marriage or kids, have already happened. I know I learned very late 😅
God told Adam & Eve to be fruitful & multiply (Genesis 1:28) Jesus told the unmarried & widows that it is good to remain single but, if they cannot exercise self control they should marry. It is better to marry than burn with passion (1 Corinthians 7:8-9) The lesson is Adam & Eve fulfilled God’s command as we are their descendants & Jesus gave the rest of us an out if we have self control. As a Christian it’s ok to do what is best for you, without any religious guilt or pressure.
This is pure abuse on many levels. It is great you covered it. Everyone needs to know the truth. I am so glad the interviewer showed everything she saw.
We are failed homesteaders. I tell people we flipped it but it was a fail. No debt. Literally no debt. And we couldn’t get approved for a loan to get septic/electric let alone farm equipment. But we got a loan to buy this house on one acre that was 20x more than the loan we tried to get to improve our land. Make it make sense. They make it impossible for average people to improve land. You’d think that would be encouraged. We had 23 acres.
@@jibarabicha4853psychologists have said that socialization can be subverted. Nothing is set in stone even with social conditioning. That white woman made her choice.
I saw someone I the comments on his IG asking him why HE doesn’t get her help so she doesn’t have to do so much on her own. I watched more content and it became clear that she earns plenty do money. I thought why doesn’t SHE hire the help she needs?
And the lack of personal and financial independence is the problem. I think tradwives are hard-working, industrious, and smart. They are normally very pretty too. I have nothing against them and admire what they can do. It's not the life I want for me, but I'm happy for them. The problem is this. Think Of Hannah. Let's just say she did want to leave. Well, she doesn't have a car, she's out in the middle of nowhere with 8 kids, and he comes from a billionaire family. I also understand that it's his name on everything. She can't realistically leave him. She would literally end up on the street without her kids. Do you think friends or family would take her in? Doubtful, as they would likely feel she should stay and work it out. Even if they did, his family has the money to keep her in court to the point where she is paying over every dime she makes to legal fees. So in effect, she is an indentured servant. Trad wives are great, but the lifestyle needs to be done right, and not everyone can afford it. It needs to be treated as a job. The wife needs an equal say in all household decisions. She should have savings, and probably some kind of retirement investment as well. She should also have her own monthly income. If a husband can't provide that, or if she isn't independently wealthy, or she can't make money by doing something like the TH-cam gig, being a tradwife is just a terrible idea. The husband could leave, might find someone younger, or she might want to leave. Then she ends up on the street, maybe her kids end up on the street with her. There are stories all over TH-cam of women who were in that situation. It's not love if it's not a choice.
I think it’s interesting that article refers to Hannah as " neeleman " repeatedly but refers to her husband as Daniel. It's a subtle way of showing his power over her
Pro tip: stop calling it a farm & start calling it a ranch. Ranches are…wealthier. Much wealthier. And voluntary! Really odd that people thought they were poor though. Many Super wealthy southern people actually prefer to live that way.
I hate this entire story. The husband strikes me as an abuser. Keeps her pregnant, isolated, no nannies when they can clearly afford them? Something very very strange is going on with HIM. She needs to wake up. This is not the last we are going to hear about this family.
Having dozens of employees and no nanny is ridiculous. If I have even three employees, one of them will be a nanny. If I had fifty employees, two of them would be nannies. 😂
These rich privileged people homesteading reminds me of Marie Antionette dressing up as a milkmaid with her friends on the fake farm. I grew up in the 80's in rural Iowa, and farming was INCREDIBLY hard and financially devastating, unless you were a rich farmer or a corporation. Very few people would choose this life, and definitely not expecting to make a living on a small farm. Same with farm work- there's a reason why ONLY undocumented people do it. It's literally back- breaking. Definitely wouldn't have time for pageants!
Many of us poor people living in the city eating the GMO crap at the grocery store wish we could afford to get some land and animals and grow are own food..I know lots of people that are doing this or working towards being able to do it.
Incredible to think that a family with money AND with Hanna’s money they still won’t get help just because husband doesn’t want them to… What? You can tell their relationship was build on a power dynamic that was probably understandable at the beginning, I mean she was on a lower economic status than him and they are very religious and all, but is not something you can keep once roles change, kids come along and you start making a lot of money on your own. Shocking to see, a man is not everything in life.
In my opinion, it's not that they are stay-at-home moms, record their lives, or any of that, it's when they don't understand that most people can't live that way. I don't mean they can't stay at home, I mean luxury appliances, being able to not worry about bills, having time to make cereal from scratch, spotless homes, etc... most people can't do that. On an AMA one of them said basically that you can do it, you just have to "prioritize" that life if you want it. I don't know where these people live, but I'm guessing Utah. A family of 5 with 1 working adult needs $112,599 according to MIT's living wage calculator. Utah's minimum wage for 40 hr work week is $13,920, which isn't enough for one person, a living wage for one person is $57,179. These are rich Mormons, but I have seen normal Mormons in my experience they are poor and get help from the church with food and sometimes money. My friend was one of 10 kids they lived in a nice 3 bedroom house that would have been great for up to maybe 4 kids. They let their oldest daughter go to college, get a job, and date. As long as you see this content for what it is it's just rich people being weird for entertainment purposes. It isn't a good representation of life now or in the past. Don't be fooled into believing that life as a wife and mother will be like that and that's okay.
They are definitely RICH!! All of those cattle and all that land! Because who is homeschooling 8 children , baking and selling goods, milking cows and sheep and sending out orders and pulling up produce from the. Garden? Hannah could not possibly be doing all that! I think it’s cap!
"a living wage for one person is $57,179" For a reasonable degree of financially security? I don't doubt it. I'm on disability and I don't even get Utah's minimum wage in a year. I live on about $10k and I'm expected to just... make it work. And I do, but barely. I get Medicaid though, so at least I don't have to worry about becoming homeless over medical bills, AND it fully covered my bisalp 5 years ago to make sure I never have any little life-destroying accidents. I never wanted kids, and I sure as hell don't want any while being disabled and poor.
@@charlee_hotel Perhaps because I am approaching my late 20s, and I was not fully developed into my sense of self until my mid-20s. Perhaps because I am generally a sympathetic person, I was raised a Pentecostal Protestant, and I know that upbringing creates a lot of mental patterns that take time and effort to process and remove. Despite growing up poor, I do not envy nor automatically hold disdain towards the rich.
I have 6 siblings in a similar christian background and alot of the kids will be neglected and parentified. Also, not too talked about trauma is the sibling rivalry/abuse that can happen due to the power dynamics between the oldest and youngest and lack of supervision. No one can convince me that a woman wants 8 kids. She is brainwashed beyond help. And if she doesnt have any financial assets in the businesses that they own, she is not a co-CEOs as they claim they are. She is trapped by children and finances. I grew up on a farm too and know its REALLY HARD WORK.
Thank you for covering this article in its entirety, it's incredibly important. I grew up in an ultra-conservative community (not Mormon, but may of the same beliefs of gender roles) and this predatory/controlling relationship makes me sick to my stomach. I see many people I know follow their account and like their posts which also makes my stomach churn. It is 100% about control and I don't know why, but men are SO good at it. I fear that women will fall into this trap and vote accordingly. Again, thank you!
Daniel could have done ANYTHING with his life and chose to be a full time farmer cosplayer, like a little boy who wants to be a cowboy when he grows up. His operation is only economically viable bc of his wife's social media clout, otherwise they could not keep competitive prices for their sanitary monstrosity of a product. Considering the compromising information volunteered to the journalist this man really doesn't come off as the brightest
He's a weirdo. He got to live out his dream, but was perfectly happy to steal hers away? Something is so so wrong in this. Check his hard drives and keep a close eye on the kids.
@@PrismverseTalesbut guys she signed up for it. She was a grown woman living in NYC… she was probably intimidated by her own success and thought she would be either happier or easier living with him
Thank you for your analysis on this. The "whirlwind romance" is interesting. Her aspirations of being a professional ballerina were basically ruined when she became pregnant as an undergraduate. I think it's highly likely Daniel is calling a lot of the shots in their marriage.
Excellent breakdown. I don’t understand how people can’t see through all the glamour. Of course being a regular SAHM is not what they portray with all their resources. These tradwife influencers are still WORKING no matter how much cosplaying they do. And historically, most tradwives had to do some type of side hustle to make additional income because their husbands either didn’t make enough or did not share the money enough for her to not have to do that. If you plan to be a SAHM you better have your own independent source of income.
I can't believe this is life right now. Sometimes I find myself missing the 90s and then I realize they were also completely pre-fabricated propaganda swirling everywhere from dusk till dawn.
The red flag started when he wanted to marry her upon first sight without even knowing her. These men don’t think women are individuals with personalities. I still don’t feel sorry for her because she is harming so many young women with these ideals )whether domestically or physically.
I don’t follow these people at all and have come across maybe 1 video of Hanna making something out of scratch, but I feel a little bad for her. She’s obviously a force to be reckoned with and her husband is taking her for all she’s got. I hope she stops having babies for him and starts doing something for herself.
the being so "ill she can't get out of bed for a week" is so chilling. the way the husband so willingly offered that information to the journalist as if it was supposed to signal that she was a hard worker, but gets tired and weak too..? but he doesn't? like did he mention that to prove his masculinity holds down the fort when in reality she is the CEO of ballerina farm and he is her employee and she gets no time off so is forced by her own body to take breaks when this man is probably getting plenty of down time not being the main curator of the content on top of their daily duties (which they have paid staff for, so he probably does a lot more business management white collar than it seems, and she is literally birthing children and on her feet all day). a worrisome remark
She gave up all her hopes and dreams so this yutz could live out his, smh. These two are a perfect example of coercive control, financial abuse, reproductive abuse, religious abuse, pretty much all the abuses other than physical(and we don't even see what goes on off-camera so who knows). People always say "you can't make assumptions from social media!" but anyone who's ever been in an abusive relationship can spot all his little tells and microaggressions. The way he interrupts her, speaks over her, speaks FOR her, corrects her, how she looks at him before she speaks, repeats his statements, her little eye-rolls and blank expressions- this is not a healthy relationship and she is not happy. He's in complete control, and she pretends it's her choice to go along with whatever he wants. Been there, done that, can spot it a mile away. And that birthday gift. He knew she wanted to go to Greece for her birthday but he gave her an _apron_ instead, and has SO little respect for her that he couldn't even wrap it nicely. Just chucks the shipping box at her, watches her struggle to open it, then demands gratitude. What a slap in the face. That apron was a reminder that she will be staying at home and he doesn't care what she wants. No rest for her, just a "gift" that allows her do _more work_ more efficiently. The way they got together is the biggest red flag of all though. She wasn't even interested in him but he literally stalked and captured her. Abused his power as the son of an airline owner to trap her on a "date" she could not escape, wore her down till she said yes. Took advantage of her upbringing in a culty misogynistic religion to talk her into getting married quick instead of finishing school. Knocked her up right away, keeps her barefoot and pregnant in the name of god, and brainwashed her into believing it's what she wants. The fact that she had to wait for a birth he couldn't supervise so she could _sneak_ an epidural. It's honestly chilling. Nothing about their relationship is cute or inspirational, it's a cautionary tale of how quickly you can ruin your life with one bad choice. She should have moved seats on that plane. She should get the marriage annulled on grounds of duress, but I have no doubt he'd do everything in his power to destroy her if she ever left. I dunno... but if I was her I'd start foraging for hemlock on that farm 🌿 The saddest part is those kids will grow up thinking this is normal. The boys will become husbands who subjugate their wives, and the girls will become wives who don't think they deserve a more thoughtful gift than a new apron.
Regarding natural remedies and alternative medicine: They're usually not covered by insurance, so a wealthy person can access all kinds of good alternative medicine that most of us can't afford.
I hate that shit like this still happens to women and when someone is trying to point out how messed up it is they are getting trashed. Even by women themselves. This relationship is not healthy. She was trapped. She's a victim of this awful guy.
That soft, doughy, pasty man looks like he hasn't done a day's manual labor in his life. I'm betting the "work" he does on the farm is sitting in an air-conditioned office and watching or giving orders while the, ahem... "undocumented" farm hands do all of the real labor.
I don't know if he is a horrible guy or that she isn't generally happy. They were pretty much brainwashed and it's not just Mormons. Even as a feminist and an atheist from birth I forced myself to believe that 2 parents was so important that I over looked red flags both with the SD and my ex-husband. My ex-husband is her father in all the ways that count, but he isn't a good husband. With a lot of reflection I see how toxic our relationship was. What made me stay even though I wasn't happy is the child. The shame and fear of the SD abandoning us and a divorce was crippling. I did love him, but not as a romantic partner and I'm disabled so it's still complicated, but I'm 2 years divorced. Women have to truly think about what they want because if you don't someone else will.
It's truly sad how many women lose themselves and their futures because of men, when it could be so different if men would just help them out and share the load equally. It's disheartening and cruel. I will always be a feminist. We still need it in this day and age. It needs to remain until there is true equality, and not this glamorized facade sold to us currently.
Why do people feel sorry for her? She chose marrying money, chooses to be Mormon, chose to give up dancing, chooses to have so many kids and then willingly deceives people about her life on the farm. Smh.
She seems to be stuck in a situation she doesn't necessarily want to be in with no easy way out. Regardless of her wealth, I think she was manipulated to end up this way. By her religion, by her husband. Marrying and getting pregnant so quick are relationship red flags encouraged by religious culture that not-so-coincidentally trap women in marriages. So I do feel sorry for her in some aspects.
She may have ‘chosen’ the first few steps in this (remember she said no for six months and he was willing to lie to her and manipulate things in his father’s company to trick her into sitting next to him on the flight. He was stalking her and probably lied extensively to her in the beginning. So how much did she really choose?) but imagine trying to divorce a billionaire family. They will tie you up with lawyers for years and take everything from you. You will never see your children again. She literally can’t leave now. They are BILLIONAIRES.
Chicken keeper here. Yes roosters can become aggressive and if they are larger and have spurs they can actually hurt people. But the responsible thing to do is not to kick it, they have very delicate bones. If the rooster is really aggressive or if you have too many roosters on a farm you typically just eat them. But roosters can also be really friendly, especially when hand raised. I have pet roosters and wouldn’t want a guy like that around them. There is a big difference between raising an animal for food and purposefully causing it pain… it’s funny to me that anyone thought they were a for profit farm. They are just rich people cosplaying farming. That’s fine, but I’m curious how they treat all the animals because people raised around animals even animals kept for food are still usually very caring and respectful towards those animals. I find sometimes others who are new to farming are extremely ignorant to the fact that all animals have feelings and think to some degree. Caring for farm animals requires gentleness and introspection, not brute force.
As someone who has close ties with the ballet community in my town this article is just a gut punch. It makes me so sad imagining one of our girls passionate and talented enough to get into Juilliard having her career sabotaged by her husband. She’s obviously made the best she can out of her life, but it just sounds like a silver lining on a piece of turd.
And what are people supposed to feed and clothe them with? Hopes and prayers? Oh, and god forbid they need to go to the doctor or hospital... These weirdos are insisting that people have kids regardless of whether they can afford it. But if you don't feed, clothe or get medical attention for your kids because you can't afford it, the state will take them from you, and you'll be made out to be a villain. Then the same sorts of people who insisted you have kids will berate you for having them when you knew you couldn't afford them. The only winning move is not to play.
@@AngryReptileKeeper That's exactly what happens. What is the point in having children if they are going to be traumatized and/or removed from you? I have a coworker who is really struggling because she can't afford to quit her job and there is no childcare available in her area. Like she really doesn't know what to do. This is her third child, who is very loved but was not planned (birth control failure.)
Agree with you...the whole thing seems unhinged...I'm wondering if this is a living hell for Hannah...if she's trapped in some type of cosplay fantasy dynamic.
She doesn't like labels. She doesn't like 'identity' because she herself doesn't have one. "I don't necessarily identify with it". The 'it' being trad wife. “We try so hard to be neutral" was her response to, is she a feminist? She's nothing. Literally and figuratively. If it isn't a hell yes, it's a hell no! She doesn't like the trad wife moniker and she is NOT a feminist. She doesn't know what she is other than a mother of eight. She is dissociated, 'living in the passenger seat of her own life' vibe which is absolutely the consequence of being raised in a cult. With that said, don't save her, she don't wanna be saved. What doesn't kill her will make her stronger. And finally, this is a canon event! The actions she takes today will determine her future self. No one can stop this train, baby!
Did you know these types of influences are funded by the Mormon Church. Based on keywords used in social media posts/videos, decide the amount given to the creator. Anything mentioning the church or Utah pays top dollar.
Just found you on shorts? Or beside it, not sure, but wow. Youve done zn excellent job deconstructing this without engaging in hostility or insults, it is content like this that could actually get through to women in this type of space.
So true. I have had 3 children and although my ex is a piece of shit, he still helped so much during my post partum recovery that our babies were attached to him as they were with me breastfeeding. Never had an issue passing baby to him without a fuss. Hannahs baby obviously doesnt want to go to her dad.
I found it so worrying that she wanted to say that having kids for her was a spiritual decision and meant something to her, but her husband was basically saying nah it’s because of me…. So worrying. As an exmormon I can only see how this is so real for many women in that cult. And it’s a cult! I don’t see this as a feminist issue, I see this as brainwashed cult issues.
Right? If you're paying a private individual to educate your child(ren), especially outside of your home, you've effectively hired a tutor. I went to an "alternative school" for a few years run by an angry, divorced, middle-aged Catholic lady out of her home. Calling what these people are doing "homeschooling" is like calling that "homeschooling".
@@AngryReptileKeeper and I'm not even judging her. Goodness knows, that's the last thing she needs to burden herself with. It's just really important for the consumers of trad wife content to see that it's not relatable to most of us.
I want kids in my mid-20s, but I also want to achieve my dreams first. I've been waiting my whole life for a man who supports those dreams, and I'm not having kids or getting married until I do
We can’t forget that she chose to be with this man and is STILL with this man. And she literally rejected him for 6 months, why weren’t creep signals screaming in her brain
there were. after that six months, she thought he ended up next to her on a flight by coincidence. his daddy founded the airline and he “pulled strings” to get the seat next to her. she wanted to date a year and finish school, he insisted marrying in a month and she was pregnant, before graduating, three months later. she tried to stand up for herself, tried to establish a healthy and realistic timeline. “she shoud’ve said no” sure whatever, she tried and somehow wasn’t able to, but really HE shouldn’t have asked, tricked, manipulated, forced to begin with. it’s so sad and now there are eight entire children involved too
Because she was brainwashed even as a child. A lot of women end up with abusers, they don't see the situation for what it is because they don't know what normal is.
I'm still wondering, she milks the cows into her coffee cup.. Are they implying she drinks it raw when there's already coffee in there?? 🤢 Or is it the usual coffee mug that she uses for coffee on many days, before transferring it to a pot to boil and pasteurize?? This family is gonna get listeria.
Raw milk is actually really good for you. People drank it forever and we're doing great. So many people that are into health , nutrition and physical fitness are drinking it and doing great. It's literally a super food packed with so many things that's good for our body. That's why they don't want us to have it and only want us to have the industrial farmed milk that comes from cows that never ate a natural diet and shot with hormones and chemicals. Yeah that's the milk that is bad for you not raw milk from good clean farms where cows eat grass not soy , get exercise and sunshine and not shot with hormones and chemicals.
City boy couldn't come up from his father's shadow in the airplane/business world. He wanted to go to the country and relax there but his only way to come up in manhood was to prop himself above a woman that did what he couldn't. Hannah moved away from her conservative family at a young age and was going to become her own woman on her own merit. He wasn't going to be anything other than daddy's rich kid. Also he's cosplaying a cowboy
The thought of this demon hunting her literally mid-flight to her own future and sabotaging her whole life as a hunting trophy will haunt me for weeks.
truly horrifying
@Purpleflames267 He didn't steal something that she voluntarily gave away. Everything she has is what she signed up for.
It's giving 365 days
He sounds like a creepy stalker. It’s not cute. And then to top it off they got engaged, married and pregnant within a few months?! Scary shit.
Yes! Her life sounds horriffic!
It's giving Stockholm Syndrome. Also, I think the only reason he lets her do the pageants is because it reflects well on him to have a beauty queen wife and elevates him in patriarchy.
The whole thing reads like he's just "allowing" her to do some things, but only because it benefits him as well. If it were just for her, it's a big NOPE
And he was happy she lost. A good man would celebrate his woman's successes and be truly disappointed on her behalf when she loses something she values.
She’s probably been receiving his animosity and doing extra to calm his ego down ever since this article came out…
Because if she becomes pretty post birth it will make it easier for him to be attracted to her physically. He is gaining indirectly
And distracts her from the cheating
With that MANY children! This man made sure she's not going ANYWHERE.
Except to the beauty pageants right. And the social media empires, she's getting loads of income herself
@@witnessforchrist7778her social media is under HIS name. He is the one gaining all of her money that she makes in the social media 🥲
Not her income, nothing under her name... its all his. She is just the livestock that he breeds so he doesn't have to hire more farmhands when he has baby livestocks to help with the labour. @witnessforchrist7778
What I’ve noticed is really rich people enjoy having an intentionally harder life when they don’t need to. It’s like they are trying to prove the bootstraps saying true.
Girl 🤣 same. As if they are trying to prove a point by showing how hard they work or something by adding unnecessary pain and children in their lives 😅
i saw someone on tiktok refer to the whole movement (the wealth + conservatism = fArM thing, specifically) as “theater” and that is soooo goddamn true. they’re just in lil costumes playing pretend
Yeah it’s weird as fork
It’s kind of like being a PK. like if you’re the preacher’s kid, you go out of your way to do bad things to prove that you’re not a goody two shoes. And they do it in the worst way.
Martyr ‘corn’
As someone with a lot of siblings I know there is no way that you can give each child adequate attention unless you have a lot of help. Otherwise, the kids raise themselves or the older ones wind up taking care of the younger ones.
Yup. And with fathers often emotionally or otherwise detached from the families in the often conservative big family setups, the moms just can't give each kid the attention and guidance they so much need. It does create issues.
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Her husband thought he had control over this article but we can all see the cracks.
Yes. You can tell that the writer is educated about the signs of abuse.
She's pointing out all the signs without pointing them out.
She's a brilliant journalist
I found you on TikTok compilations. I don’t have a TikTok so I was so glad you made a TH-cam channel! Thank you so much for your insightful content. I’m a single woman who is 31 years of age and I find this article so disconcerting. I have a STEM masters and have spent 6 years in biotechnology. I’m going back to grad school. I’ve been told pursuing another degree will push me further away from “good men”. But in the past I’ve had a guy say to after our 3rd virtual date that he can’t move forward because he has a bachelors and I have a masters and he believed I’m too into my work. I’ve already lost this ridiculous fight so why bother sacrificing my future for an ambiguous future dream man?
That was good of him to tell you how insecure he is before wasting any more of your time it sounds like you’re doing a lot of great things in your own life that’s already a win
I feel you. Get that degree! I'm starting my Masters soon. I've switched my focus to good female friendships ❤
Thank you so much! I agree. It’s easier when they out themselves
Good luck with your masters! And I love my best girlfriends. They’re wonderful women
A truly good man will never force you to humiliate yourself or endure hardships for his sake. if he has problems with your education, work, friends, pets, hobbies... run
My baby was six months old when I left my abusive husband. We had moved to a new town so I had noone. I didn't have a car or much money. And no phone because he broke it. I left literally barefoot with my baby and a blanket in my arms and knocked on a stranger's door (a risk, I know). They called the police. Thankfully I live in a country where single mothers are supported and domestic violence isn't tolerated. After leaving it was such a relief I could just enjoy my baby boy without the stress of an abuser. I could raise him in peace. He's now a teen. We're doing great 😊 Although I'll add that I don't think I could've done this in America. Very tough for sole parents over there.
I always side eye anything pushing 'family values' and 'tradition'. Both terms involve control of women and children through religious dogma and violence.
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This is so correct.
Same. Because over and over again throughout my 40 years of life, I've watched the "traditional family values" types consistently turn out to be some of the worst human beings I've ever encountered.
Society is deteriorating faster than ever because family values and traditions have gone down. Think whatever you want but it's true.
There’s more toxicity within a controlling family that’s “traditional”. The kids go out of control because of the tight grip of control from their very parents. They don’t allow anyone to be their authentic self
So who watches the kids when she is "so ill she can't get out of bed for a week" ?
also sounds like a depression to me
The chickens
Robably the same ppl that watch them all the time
It's sounds like depression. Back in the days, it was very common for women to lay in the bed for months because most of them were depressed and were dying early. And obviously the daughter are going to get used as Mini mothers to raise the kids their parents can't stop reproducing 🙄
It’s possible the other kids do, the parentification of older children
What a devastating picture of Hannah's life... Thank you so much for covering this story
This story is so freaking dystopian and plain sad! But also motivating to go and work on my own projects and live my life as I have envisioned it. Thank you for covering it.
Exactly never wait around for a man. At most you end up in a hostage situation.
Always trust your first instinct.
Yep i had this older man just after me for weeks but my intuition was just like no. And i wasn’t all that attracted to him but i gave him a chance anyway and he ended up using me for sex for four months before he declared he wasnt looking for a relationship or commitment. (Knowing that i was)
I broke it off angry that i even gave him the time of day and he was with a new girl the very next day whom he has been in a relationship with now for 2 years. Grrr 😡 it makes me so mad!!
I have literally never in my life clicked on any trad wife content and I never will. I get enough of it through people tearing it apart. Thank you for all of the work that you put in this.
Right?! I used to watch/follow nara smith on insta out of curiosity and now I have her and her husband blocked. It just all really creeps me out!
Thank you for including the bit about animal abuse with these types of men. Alot of people have seem to gloss over that or missed that detail. These men tend to over dramatize their "masculine" role that theyll abuse animals like roosters who are just doing their job instead of engage in proper animal training. Ive been around these types of men and have always worried for the animals
The way they “met” is giving hunter and prey
I don’t like how they met at all, he tries to make it seem like it was the fates that orchestrated their plane flight but to me it seemed like an obsessive man that was not going to let her go until he got her within his grasp 😢 She still does ballet here and there, still wanting to dance but trapped in a cage on a farm
Most definitely 💯 he wanted to create the illusion that “fate” brought them together when he was actually stalking her. Creepy.
Why do rich people want to cosplay as us poors? I want desperately to not to have to worry like they do!!
Poor people don't own ranches and farms anymore. This isn't the 1930s.
Pulp wrote ‘common people’ about this 25 years ago.
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To your point, the husband is rich. I don’t think Hannah controls any significant amount of money. She’s stuck in that relationship. She has numerous children and few resources if she decided to leave.
Yeah which is why she should’ve completed her degree at julliard and got on birth control or something. She actually had options. If she wanted to leave she could! There are women in more extreme situations who leave everyday 🤷🏽♀️
As if leaving (in an abusive relationship idk the woman but she's in a highly controlling one) is easy and not potentially dangerous. For her it would mean risking not seeing her kids again, being ostracized (she seems pretty isolated in not online socializing), and the well being of her kids. Being a single mother post controlling relationship with little resources often means being an unhoused mom and that assumes she's willing to leave. Even if she happily agrees with patriarchy materially she's dependent and can't disagree without severe risk. And if you can't safely disagree... Well I'm not gonna spell that out. I might disagree with her beliefs and actions but I won't pretend there's little risk of her.
Those women in more extreme situations do so at great risk but aren't the end all. Many in more extreme scenarios try to leave and literally don't survive. Literal survivor bias..thats a terrible pun. Many in less physical risk don't leave because processing that you're in a controlling or abusive is traumatic and the brain chooses survival over truth in most cases.
Not to forget the Mormonism of it all which is a high control group/cult. (Not to mention abusive/controlling families demonstrate similar structures to cults)
Should she leave? Probably. Will it be easy? No. Will a bunch of strangers judging this woman in a high control scenario and possibly abusive one help her or people in situations like her? No.
@@mellowthm566 You’re reading my comment as judgment. I actually was responding to someone in another comment who did understand why a “rich” woman can’t just pay for help herself.
I see Hannah’s marriage as an extremely abusive relationship.
I’m not passing judgment on Hannah, she fell into a trap a decade ago. I don’t know how she can escape. Her husband keeps her physically isolated, without access to money, without access to transportation, burdened with unending labor, and pregnant.
We should talk about her circumstances to educate ourselves and the young women coming behind us about how to avoid ending up literally barefoot and pregnant with no autonomy or authority in our own lives.
@@laughingshaman1 i wasn't replying to you that's why I paraphrases the above poster who compared "women in more extreme situations". I assumed we were commenting in the same vein and I'm well happy is a weird word considering the topic but more people approaching DV ( or high control/ structural power difference in relationships since we're talking about strangers) with nuance and compassion is good. Comparisons between victims of abuse don't really help anyone so that's why my response was worded that way. The adage just leave is also well frustrating and common because of the spike in danger even if you escape.
I used to follow a few homemakers here on TH-cam. They’ve gone from housewives to fully trad wives with tons of kids. It’s a facade. I also find it funny how “trad” wives make so much money on social media that their husbands quit their jobs and work their “work the farm” (with her making the money and doing all the work). She’s the breadwinner yet they’re “traditional”.
Grocery shopping with 8 kids is my worst nightmare.
I feel bad for her. Her life sounds awful. A man who loves you will support your dreams and goals and also make life easier for you. He’s going to impregnate her again just watch
Until she is unalived. And if that happen within a week later he will find a new incubator. This is why women need to know better and have boundaries 🤦🏻♀️
I remember dating a guy in and a after university who gave me the vibe of wanting to be married because it was apart of his fantasy or his life goals check list and not because he loved me. At the I broke up with him after moving to my current location, but at the time I did not understand why I kept breaking up with him. Now in my thirties and with lots of retrospection, introspection, and learning about different relationships dynamics; I understand that my intuition was actually protecting me from a controlling situation with all of my needs neglected. I feel for her and I hope things workout for her and the kids.
Her and her kids are doing great. Don't believe all this stuff this is just people hate to see anyone happy doing something different. Women are only allowed to be wage slaves miserable. If women do anything out of the norm and are truly happy every wants to tear them down instead of just being happy for them.
I will admit I’m a Christian and growing up especially in high school I had an obsession with getting married etc. I’m glad I’m reevaluating myself at 24 and my decisions because I’m not married or have children and don’t know it’s the path I wanna take because relationships haven’t been my forte and I just haven’t had the results I wanted so it’s best to focus on myself and what I want out of life
Congrats on figuring that out about yourself in time, that's huge. Whatever your beliefs, you know yourself best, and you can make the best choices for yourself. So many women don't realise they have agency until after life changing events, like marriage or kids, have already happened. I know I learned very late 😅
You're smart.
blessings to you on this journey! take courage and listen to your heart ❤
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God told Adam & Eve to be fruitful & multiply (Genesis 1:28) Jesus told the unmarried & widows that it is good to remain single but, if they cannot exercise self control they should marry. It is better to marry than burn with passion (1 Corinthians 7:8-9) The lesson is Adam & Eve fulfilled God’s command as we are their descendants & Jesus gave the rest of us an out if we have self control. As a Christian it’s ok to do what is best for you, without any religious guilt or pressure.
This is pure abuse on many levels. It is great you covered it. Everyone needs to know the truth. I am so glad the interviewer showed everything she saw.
no it’s not😭 this poor woman doesn’t deserve people calling her a victim when she is happy
We are failed homesteaders. I tell people we flipped it but it was a fail. No debt. Literally no debt. And we couldn’t get approved for a loan to get septic/electric let alone farm equipment. But we got a loan to buy this house on one acre that was 20x more than the loan we tried to get to improve our land. Make it make sense. They make it impossible for average people to improve land. You’d think that would be encouraged. We had 23 acres.
This whole article made me so sad. The brainwashing 😢🥺
@Purpleflames267 Rescue her from who? She volunteered for this life.
@@yudie2As if women are not socialized to agree to these arrangements and given ultimatums as manipulation tactics. You must not be a woman
@yudie2 it's giving a man* in the comments....
A man who didn't comprehend anything from the video ✨️
@@jibarabicha4853psychologists have said that socialization can be subverted. Nothing is set in stone even with social conditioning. That white woman made her choice.
I woder if all the money she makes from SM goes to her husband's account. So he's just working her like a slave
Most of these Morman women are not allowed to have their own account or even their names on the account.
I saw someone I the comments on his IG asking him why HE doesn’t get her help so she doesn’t have to do so much on her own. I watched more content and it became clear that she earns plenty do money. I thought why doesn’t SHE hire the help she needs?
@@InspiredByEbonyLovefrom what mouth do we know she has no help? Are we just assuming? Perhaps projecting?
If you worked an animal or a child this hard, you'd be brought up on charges.
@@AngryReptileKeepershe’s a hard working mother why does that make you upset
Romanticized slavery, she has an owner not a husband.
I could’ve guessed it’s like this under the surface. That’s why they’re all trying so hard to convince everyone. They’re not fooling anybody.😒😒😒
I think the ambiguity around feminism is because tradwives are another flavor of girlboss, just with less financial or personal independence
And the lack of personal and financial independence is the problem.
I think tradwives are hard-working, industrious, and smart. They are normally very pretty too. I have nothing against them and admire what they can do. It's not the life I want for me, but I'm happy for them.
The problem is this. Think Of Hannah. Let's just say she did want to leave. Well, she doesn't have a car, she's out in the middle of nowhere with 8 kids, and he comes from a billionaire family. I also understand that it's his name on everything.
She can't realistically leave him. She would literally end up on the street without her kids. Do you think friends or family would take her in? Doubtful, as they would likely feel she should stay and work it out. Even if they did, his family has the money to keep her in court to the point where she is paying over every dime she makes to legal fees. So in effect, she is an indentured servant.
Trad wives are great, but the lifestyle needs to be done right, and not everyone can afford it. It needs to be treated as a job. The wife needs an equal say in all household decisions. She should have savings, and probably some kind of retirement investment as well. She should also have her own monthly income. If a husband can't provide that, or if she isn't independently wealthy, or she can't make money by doing something like the TH-cam gig, being a tradwife is just a terrible idea. The husband could leave, might find someone younger, or she might want to leave. Then she ends up on the street, maybe her kids end up on the street with her. There are stories all over TH-cam of women who were in that situation.
It's not love if it's not a choice.
I think it’s interesting that article refers to Hannah as " neeleman " repeatedly but refers to her husband as Daniel. It's a subtle way of showing his power over her
The facade is comical
Pro tip: stop calling it a farm & start calling it a ranch. Ranches are…wealthier. Much wealthier. And voluntary! Really odd that people thought they were poor though. Many Super wealthy southern people actually prefer to live that way.
They're not trying to look as rich as they are. They're creating the illusion of relatability
@ I think they’re just doing what they like. This is vastly unrelatable to most of the United States
Stepford Wives the AI upgrade
I hate this entire story. The husband strikes me as an abuser. Keeps her pregnant, isolated, no nannies when they can clearly afford them? Something very very strange is going on with HIM. She needs to wake up. This is not the last we are going to hear about this family.
Having dozens of employees and no nanny is ridiculous. If I have even three employees, one of them will be a nanny.
If I had fifty employees, two of them would be nannies. 😂
These rich privileged people homesteading reminds me of Marie Antionette dressing up as a milkmaid with her friends on the fake farm. I grew up in the 80's in rural Iowa, and farming was INCREDIBLY hard and financially devastating, unless you were a rich farmer or a corporation. Very few people would choose this life, and definitely not expecting to make a living on a small farm. Same with farm work- there's a reason why ONLY undocumented people do it. It's literally back- breaking. Definitely wouldn't have time for pageants!
Also, homesteading is a luxury. This isn't the 1930s
Many of us poor people living in the city eating the GMO crap at the grocery store wish we could afford to get some land and animals and grow are own food..I know lots of people that are doing this or working towards being able to do it.
Incredible to think that a family with money AND with Hanna’s money they still won’t get help just because husband doesn’t want them to… What? You can tell their relationship was build on a power dynamic that was probably understandable at the beginning, I mean she was on a lower economic status than him and they are very religious and all, but is not something you can keep once roles change, kids come along and you start making a lot of money on your own. Shocking to see, a man is not everything in life.
In my opinion, it's not that they are stay-at-home moms, record their lives, or any of that, it's when they don't understand that most people can't live that way. I don't mean they can't stay at home, I mean luxury appliances, being able to not worry about bills, having time to make cereal from scratch, spotless homes, etc... most people can't do that. On an AMA one of them said basically that you can do it, you just have to "prioritize" that life if you want it. I don't know where these people live, but I'm guessing Utah. A family of 5 with 1 working adult needs $112,599 according to MIT's living wage calculator. Utah's minimum wage for 40 hr work week is $13,920, which isn't enough for one person, a living wage for one person is $57,179. These are rich Mormons, but I have seen normal Mormons in my experience they are poor and get help from the church with food and sometimes money. My friend was one of 10 kids they lived in a nice 3 bedroom house that would have been great for up to maybe 4 kids. They let their oldest daughter go to college, get a job, and date. As long as you see this content for what it is it's just rich people being weird for entertainment purposes. It isn't a good representation of life now or in the past. Don't be fooled into believing that life as a wife and mother will be like that and that's okay.
They are definitely RICH!! All of those cattle and all that land! Because who is homeschooling 8 children , baking and selling goods, milking cows and sheep and sending out orders and pulling up produce from the. Garden? Hannah could not possibly be doing all that! I think it’s cap!
"a living wage for one person is $57,179"
For a reasonable degree of financially security? I don't doubt it. I'm on disability and I don't even get Utah's minimum wage in a year. I live on about $10k and I'm expected to just... make it work. And I do, but barely. I get Medicaid though, so at least I don't have to worry about becoming homeless over medical bills, AND it fully covered my bisalp 5 years ago to make sure I never have any little life-destroying accidents. I never wanted kids, and I sure as hell don't want any while being disabled and poor.
Rich people being “weird” hits different after this week
I feel so sorry for her 😢
I feel very bad for her. This is tragic. Reminds of The Yellow Wallpaper because of the sense of helplessness.
Good point.
I don't. She's rich. She's talented. She's educated. She *HAD* a choice in the matter.
@@charlee_hotel Perhaps because I am approaching my late 20s, and I was not fully developed into my sense of self until my mid-20s. Perhaps because I am generally a sympathetic person, I was raised a Pentecostal Protestant, and I know that upbringing creates a lot of mental patterns that take time and effort to process and remove. Despite growing up poor, I do not envy nor automatically hold disdain towards the rich.
I have 6 siblings in a similar christian background and alot of the kids will be neglected and parentified. Also, not too talked about trauma is the sibling rivalry/abuse that can happen due to the power dynamics between the oldest and youngest and lack of supervision. No one can convince me that a woman wants 8 kids. She is brainwashed beyond help. And if she doesnt have any financial assets in the businesses that they own, she is not a co-CEOs as they claim they are. She is trapped by children and finances. I grew up on a farm too and know its REALLY HARD WORK.
Her husband drop kicked a chicken 😂😂😂😂😂. What a gentleman.
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Such a man to harm an innocent being. Barf 🤮
@@katherines144 I bet the kid it attacked had been harassing it too. Animals have every right to defend themselves!
So immature!
@@daughterofsekhmet81 The kid did what he saw daddy do to mommy.
Thank you for covering this article in its entirety, it's incredibly important. I grew up in an ultra-conservative community (not Mormon, but may of the same beliefs of gender roles) and this predatory/controlling relationship makes me sick to my stomach. I see many people I know follow their account and like their posts which also makes my stomach churn. It is 100% about control and I don't know why, but men are SO good at it. I fear that women will fall into this trap and vote accordingly. Again, thank you!
The kids can only watch 'Little House on the Prairie'?! They're being brainwashed
Utah. Nuff said.
Daniel could have done ANYTHING with his life and chose to be a full time farmer cosplayer, like a little boy who wants to be a cowboy when he grows up. His operation is only economically viable bc of his wife's social media clout, otherwise they could not keep competitive prices for their sanitary monstrosity of a product. Considering the compromising information volunteered to the journalist this man really doesn't come off as the brightest
He's a weirdo. He got to live out his dream, but was perfectly happy to steal hers away? Something is so so wrong in this. Check his hard drives and keep a close eye on the kids.
Why are their products “sanitary monstrosities”???
@@PrismverseTalesbut guys she signed up for it. She was a grown woman living in NYC… she was probably intimidated by her own success and thought she would be either happier or easier living with him
@@user9o777laont When manipulation and coercion are at play, I'm not so sure she fully understood her choices.
@@user9o777laont There's a gulf of difference between consent, and _informed_ consent.
Thank you for your analysis on this. The "whirlwind romance" is interesting. Her aspirations of being a professional ballerina were basically ruined when she became pregnant as an undergraduate. I think it's highly likely Daniel is calling a lot of the shots in their marriage.
So sad 😞 it’s giving Gilead vibes
Excellent breakdown. I don’t understand how people can’t see through all the glamour. Of course being a regular SAHM is not what they portray with all their resources. These tradwife influencers are still WORKING no matter how much cosplaying they do. And historically, most tradwives had to do some type of side hustle to make additional income because their husbands either didn’t make enough or did not share the money enough for her to not have to do that. If you plan to be a SAHM you better have your own independent source of income.
Hannah the Hostage
37:50 When these cult members are judging America for being too pro-life..........we are living in the worst possible timeline.
I can't believe this is life right now. Sometimes I find myself missing the 90s and then I realize they were also completely pre-fabricated propaganda swirling everywhere from dusk till dawn.
Truly horrifying. He just controls her completely 😢😢😢😢😢
The red flag started when he wanted to marry her upon first sight without even knowing her. These men don’t think women are individuals with personalities. I still don’t feel sorry for her because she is harming so many young women with these ideals )whether domestically or physically.
I don’t follow these people at all and have come across maybe 1 video of Hanna making something out of scratch, but I feel a little bad for her. She’s obviously a force to be reckoned with and her husband is taking her for all she’s got. I hope she stops having babies for him and starts doing something for herself.
the being so "ill she can't get out of bed for a week" is so chilling. the way the husband so willingly offered that information to the journalist as if it was supposed to signal that she was a hard worker, but gets tired and weak too..? but he doesn't? like did he mention that to prove his masculinity holds down the fort when in reality she is the CEO of ballerina farm and he is her employee and she gets no time off so is forced by her own body to take breaks when this man is probably getting plenty of down time not being the main curator of the content on top of their daily duties (which they have paid staff for, so he probably does a lot more business management white collar than it seems, and she is literally birthing children and on her feet all day). a worrisome remark
Or the fact that the one time she chose pain relief during childbirth was when her husband wasn't around?
She will develop auto immune conditions because of stress
well done!
She gave up all her hopes and dreams so this yutz could live out his, smh.
These two are a perfect example of coercive control, financial abuse, reproductive abuse, religious abuse, pretty much all the abuses other than physical(and we don't even see what goes on off-camera so who knows). People always say "you can't make assumptions from social media!" but anyone who's ever been in an abusive relationship can spot all his little tells and microaggressions. The way he interrupts her, speaks over her, speaks FOR her, corrects her, how she looks at him before she speaks, repeats his statements, her little eye-rolls and blank expressions- this is not a healthy relationship and she is not happy. He's in complete control, and she pretends it's her choice to go along with whatever he wants. Been there, done that, can spot it a mile away. And that birthday gift. He knew she wanted to go to Greece for her birthday but he gave her an _apron_ instead, and has SO little respect for her that he couldn't even wrap it nicely. Just chucks the shipping box at her, watches her struggle to open it, then demands gratitude. What a slap in the face. That apron was a reminder that she will be staying at home and he doesn't care what she wants. No rest for her, just a "gift" that allows her do _more work_ more efficiently.
The way they got together is the biggest red flag of all though. She wasn't even interested in him but he literally stalked and captured her. Abused his power as the son of an airline owner to trap her on a "date" she could not escape, wore her down till she said yes. Took advantage of her upbringing in a culty misogynistic religion to talk her into getting married quick instead of finishing school. Knocked her up right away, keeps her barefoot and pregnant in the name of god, and brainwashed her into believing it's what she wants. The fact that she had to wait for a birth he couldn't supervise so she could _sneak_ an epidural. It's honestly chilling. Nothing about their relationship is cute or inspirational, it's a cautionary tale of how quickly you can ruin your life with one bad choice. She should have moved seats on that plane. She should get the marriage annulled on grounds of duress, but I have no doubt he'd do everything in his power to destroy her if she ever left. I dunno... but if I was her I'd start foraging for hemlock on that farm 🌿
The saddest part is those kids will grow up thinking this is normal. The boys will become husbands who subjugate their wives, and the girls will become wives who don't think they deserve a more thoughtful gift than a new apron.
Lesson learned: don't be fooled by the picture-perfect happy smiling faces.
Regarding natural remedies and alternative medicine: They're usually not covered by insurance, so a wealthy person can access all kinds of good alternative medicine that most of us can't afford.
I hate that shit like this still happens to women and when someone is trying to point out how messed up it is they are getting trashed. Even by women themselves. This relationship is not healthy. She was trapped. She's a victim of this awful guy.
Someone needs to rescue that woman from that episode of Criminal Minds
Your videos are brilliant. Keep going, soon your channel will be huge.
for me, having no nannies with so many kids , and keeping in mind that you can afford it --- it is ab * se
"Definitely more of a circle than he is a square" lol 💀💀💀
That soft, doughy, pasty man looks like he hasn't done a day's manual labor in his life. I'm betting the "work" he does on the farm is sitting in an air-conditioned office and watching or giving orders while the, ahem... "undocumented" farm hands do all of the real labor.
I don't know if he is a horrible guy or that she isn't generally happy. They were pretty much brainwashed and it's not just Mormons. Even as a feminist and an atheist from birth I forced myself to believe that 2 parents was so important that I over looked red flags both with the SD and my ex-husband. My ex-husband is her father in all the ways that count, but he isn't a good husband. With a lot of reflection I see how toxic our relationship was. What made me stay even though I wasn't happy is the child. The shame and fear of the SD abandoning us and a divorce was crippling. I did love him, but not as a romantic partner and I'm disabled so it's still complicated, but I'm 2 years divorced. Women have to truly think about what they want because if you don't someone else will.
It's truly sad how many women lose themselves and their futures because of men, when it could be so different if men would just help them out and share the load equally. It's disheartening and cruel.
I will always be a feminist. We still need it in this day and age. It needs to remain until there is true equality, and not this glamorized facade sold to us currently.
Why do people feel sorry for her? She chose marrying money, chooses to be Mormon, chose to give up dancing, chooses to have so many kids and then willingly deceives people about her life on the farm. Smh.
Exactly. She also came from money. She had a choice. She isn't an illiterate peasant living in rural Afghanistan.
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She seems to be stuck in a situation she doesn't necessarily want to be in with no easy way out. Regardless of her wealth, I think she was manipulated to end up this way. By her religion, by her husband. Marrying and getting pregnant so quick are relationship red flags encouraged by religious culture that not-so-coincidentally trap women in marriages. So I do feel sorry for her in some aspects.
She may have ‘chosen’ the first few steps in this (remember she said no for six months and he was willing to lie to her and manipulate things in his father’s company to trick her into sitting next to him on the flight. He was stalking her and probably lied extensively to her in the beginning. So how much did she really choose?) but imagine trying to divorce a billionaire family. They will tie you up with lawyers for years and take everything from you. You will never see your children again. She literally can’t leave now. They are BILLIONAIRES.
Because she got groomed when she was young. And this video is about the facade of these tradwife relationships.
Chicken keeper here. Yes roosters can become aggressive and if they are larger and have spurs they can actually hurt people. But the responsible thing to do is not to kick it, they have very delicate bones. If the rooster is really aggressive or if you have too many roosters on a farm you typically just eat them. But roosters can also be really friendly, especially when hand raised. I have pet roosters and wouldn’t want a guy like that around them. There is a big difference between raising an animal for food and purposefully causing it pain… it’s funny to me that anyone thought they were a for profit farm. They are just rich people cosplaying farming. That’s fine, but I’m curious how they treat all the animals because people raised around animals even animals kept for food are still usually very caring and respectful towards those animals. I find sometimes others who are new to farming are extremely ignorant to the fact that all animals have feelings and think to some degree. Caring for farm animals requires gentleness and introspection, not brute force.
As someone who has close ties with the ballet community in my town this article is just a gut punch. It makes me so sad imagining one of our girls passionate and talented enough to get into Juilliard having her career sabotaged by her husband. She’s obviously made the best she can out of her life, but it just sounds like a silver lining on a piece of turd.
Dont sweat it. She made her bed.
@@charlee_hotel you xy POS
#4Bmovement ballet 🩰 🐈 🍷 for ever ❤
Glitter on turd
This is terrifying, but is anyone surprised?
People cannot afford basic housing-if we have kids where are they supposed to go?
And what are people supposed to feed and clothe them with? Hopes and prayers? Oh, and god forbid they need to go to the doctor or hospital...
These weirdos are insisting that people have kids regardless of whether they can afford it. But if you don't feed, clothe or get medical attention for your kids because you can't afford it, the state will take them from you, and you'll be made out to be a villain. Then the same sorts of people who insisted you have kids will berate you for having them when you knew you couldn't afford them.
The only winning move is not to play.
@@AngryReptileKeeper That's exactly what happens. What is the point in having children if they are going to be traumatized and/or removed from you? I have a coworker who is really struggling because she can't afford to quit her job and there is no childcare available in her area. Like she really doesn't know what to do. This is her third child, who is very loved but was not planned (birth control failure.)
Loved this breakdown and your input, thank you for doing this!
BTW they give off strong Speidi vibes LOL, this girl needs to take care of her body
This is related to the same ideology found in Project 2025.
Agree with you...the whole thing seems unhinged...I'm wondering if this is a living hell for Hannah...if she's trapped in some type of cosplay fantasy dynamic.
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Infuriating and heartbreaking
Thank you for the explanation and the analysis! I loved the way you speak. I'm a Spanish speaker and I understood everything 😁
You should interview Tia Levin's. Her book the 'well trained wife' comes out soon.
Her nice dresses were put in the garage. Do they not have enough money to build a nice wardrobe etc. That says it all for me.
She doesn't like labels. She doesn't like 'identity' because she herself doesn't have one. "I don't necessarily identify with it". The 'it' being trad wife. “We try so hard to be neutral" was her response to, is she a feminist? She's nothing. Literally and figuratively. If it isn't a hell yes, it's a hell no! She doesn't like the trad wife moniker and she is NOT a feminist. She doesn't know what she is other than a mother of eight. She is dissociated, 'living in the passenger seat of her own life' vibe which is absolutely the consequence of being raised in a cult. With that said, don't save her, she don't wanna be saved. What doesn't kill her will make her stronger. And finally, this is a canon event! The actions she takes today will determine her future self. No one can stop this train, baby!
Did you know these types of influences are funded by the Mormon Church. Based on keywords used in social media posts/videos, decide the amount given to the creator. Anything mentioning the church or Utah pays top dollar.
Just found you on shorts? Or beside it, not sure, but wow. Youve done zn excellent job deconstructing this without engaging in hostility or insults, it is content like this that could actually get through to women in this type of space.
second this
Yeah… the baby is telling on him. He’s not involved.
So true. I have had 3 children and although my ex is a piece of shit, he still helped so much during my post partum recovery that our babies were attached to him as they were with me breastfeeding. Never had an issue passing baby to him without a fuss. Hannahs baby obviously doesnt want to go to her dad.
❤❤❤ this is great stuff
Brilliant content!!!
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I found it so worrying that she wanted to say that having kids for her was a spiritual decision and meant something to her, but her husband was basically saying nah it’s because of me…. So worrying. As an exmormon I can only see how this is so real for many women in that cult. And it’s a cult! I don’t see this as a feminist issue, I see this as brainwashed cult issues.
You are very insightful ❤
Thank you!!!
"Homeschooled by a woman who lives down the track.." That's not homeschooling, in my experience as a homeschooler and homeschooling parent.
Right? If you're paying a private individual to educate your child(ren), especially outside of your home, you've effectively hired a tutor.
I went to an "alternative school" for a few years run by an angry, divorced, middle-aged Catholic lady out of her home. Calling what these people are doing "homeschooling" is like calling that "homeschooling".
@@AngryReptileKeeper and I'm not even judging her. Goodness knows, that's the last thing she needs to burden herself with. It's just really important for the consumers of trad wife content to see that it's not relatable to most of us.
I wish you the best of luck on your TH-cam channel.
Very sad story... So unfair!
“That man is more like a circle than a square” L O L
This is so off topic but you’re gorgeous! You look like Anya Taylor-Joy
I want kids in my mid-20s, but I also want to achieve my dreams first. I've been waiting my whole life for a man who supports those dreams, and I'm not having kids or getting married until I do
That's tragic.
This makes my blood boil!!!!! He neeeds to be in jail for slavery
We can’t forget that she chose to be with this man and is STILL with this man. And she literally rejected him for 6 months, why weren’t creep signals screaming in her brain
there were. after that six months, she thought he ended up next to her on a flight by coincidence. his daddy founded the airline and he “pulled strings” to get the seat next to her. she wanted to date a year and finish school, he insisted marrying in a month and she was pregnant, before graduating, three months later. she tried to stand up for herself, tried to establish a healthy and realistic timeline. “she shoud’ve said no” sure whatever, she tried and somehow wasn’t able to, but really HE shouldn’t have asked, tricked, manipulated, forced to begin with. it’s so sad and now there are eight entire children involved too
Because she was brainwashed even as a child. A lot of women end up with abusers, they don't see the situation for what it is because they don't know what normal is.
How can we, when there’s always someone like yourself reminding us? 🤔
I'm still wondering, she milks the cows into her coffee cup.. Are they implying she drinks it raw when there's already coffee in there?? 🤢 Or is it the usual coffee mug that she uses for coffee on many days, before transferring it to a pot to boil and pasteurize?? This family is gonna get listeria.
Raw milk is actually really good for you. People drank it forever and we're doing great. So many people that are into health , nutrition and physical fitness are drinking it and doing great. It's literally a super food packed with so many things that's good for our body. That's why they don't want us to have it and only want us to have the industrial farmed milk that comes from cows that never ate a natural diet and shot with hormones and chemicals. Yeah that's the milk that is bad for you not raw milk from good clean farms where cows eat grass not soy , get exercise and sunshine and not shot with hormones and chemicals.
Probably why she’s in bed for a week 💀😭
Feminism is about "choosing". Women should be able to chose her life style, what is wrong about being a housewife and mother.
This makes me so sad. She's a beautiful woman and could do anything, and instead was sucked into this life when a selfish partner.
City boy couldn't come up from his father's shadow in the airplane/business world. He wanted to go to the country and relax there but his only way to come up in manhood was to prop himself above a woman that did what he couldn't. Hannah moved away from her conservative family at a young age and was going to become her own woman on her own merit. He wasn't going to be anything other than daddy's rich kid. Also he's cosplaying a cowboy