*Found this through a TH-cam video **enjoyable.fishing** recommend does exactly what its meant to do. Very durable and no hang-ups at all surprisingly*
You don’t need to treat silicone like the plastisol. You do not need release agents in anything metal, glass, most plastics. You will have problems if you overspray the release. You can get silicone that will be inhibited from curing. Also there is no shrinkage like plastisol, so you do not need to add the extra for shrinking during cooling. The main t8me you need release agent, is if you pour silicone into silicone. They will usually weld together. I hope the silicones work well for you.
@@fishingwithtidwell8137 yep they use a rubber elastomer..they can purchase it in quantities to keep economy of scale low..still a much more expensive material.
Love your vids, been waiting for this one for a long time ever since you brought it up in a video a long time ago. Super cool! I said I would love to see you try a pike or muskie pattern in the last vid and I think this would be the perfect plastic for that. And as always, have fun playing with glitter in your garage, you do it better than anyone.😊
Adding pigment etc to the "B" part then mixing with the "A" gives generally better results. I would also recommend using a release made to release silicone from silicone. A vacuum system removes bubbles. Many videos are available on line BITY mold supply has many including using powders brushed dry into molds.
In what way are the results better when adding pigment to one half as opposed to both halves? I actually did not need my vacuum chamber for bubbles, I mixed slowly and did not see any micro bubbles thankfully. Very happy with the results I got from this stuff considering my first time.
Smooth On is a bit slow.I tend to use Polytek products at work because of that.(I am in the film business) In the summer and when it is hot mixing colors into "B" ( a habit from working with urethanes) gives more time for complete mixing, before cure starts. Usually about 2 minutes of mixing. Smooth On is more readily available and their 1:1 ratios make it easier for those starting out. There are many cool things resins do now. some are made to expand or contract so you can shrink or upsize a previous piece etc.. explore and have fun
Also I watched your "got a new vacuum Pump" video. Silicones will expand to a bit over 2x original volume before collapsing. be aware. since there is no heat with them the quart mixing cups sold at auto paint stores and some Home Depots work great for measuring and they are nonstick without release.
To cool! Also one of the things I appreciate about your videos Chris is the fact that you don't cut out the issues or problems one might also have with this great hobby. You always share the good and the bad unlike some other TH-camr's out there that I've seen. I for one especially appreciate that. Basically I have learned allot from your experiences both good and bad. Keep the awesome videos coming... I'll definitely keep watching sir.
This looks so awesome! I've been wanting to make an artificial life-like frog project for a while (like a little robot of sort, either powered by a bunch of batteryless mechanisms like a perpetual motion water fountain or stuff like that or making it an actual life-like frog robot powered by a solar panel, I'm not entirely sure yet) and I think this stuff might be the perfect stuff for the skin! (As well as the fact I found the perfect mold making stuff for the skin) and the fact it doesn't have to be heated up makes it better and less likely the plastic thumbtacks in the eye sockets of my frog skin mold would melt. Also the durability makes it less likely that if I just added all the hollow spaces to the current mold itself instead of making a mold for making the hollow spaces with playdoh followed by disolving the playdoh (so only one mold is needed entirely) that the skin wouldn't tear if I were to pull it out of all these tight spaces. Just one question... Can I use alcohol ink as coloring (thus, allowing me to save money on not buying plastisol specific coloring and just use the coloring I already have)? Or will it blow up like it would if I were to use plastisol? Would it also be okay to apply worm oil to this stuff so I can mimic a realistic feel in the artificial life-like frog's skin? (To be fair, you might not know since this was your first time using it 3 years ago, but maybe you would know now?) Thank you for uploading this and also linking dragon skin fx pro on your pinned comment so I can get this next month, is is awesome to know about!
Very interesting video Teach. I remember Salmon fishing in the Pacific Ocean with my dad in the 50's and 60's. We used Herring as bait. These would have been a great addition to our tackle boxes. I don't remember ever being able to use a herring twice. lol! You are the best..
@@WorldsWorstFishing Some of the greatest times of my life. We started when I was nine years old. 12 ft homemade plywood boat and I believe it was a 8 horse Mercury outboard. Had to have balls to do that! lol
Hyper tough swim baits. These look incredible! Was wondering what you thought of a rattlesnake color? Would be cool as senko, trick, etc. worms and craws.
You should shoot some tubes with that stuff. I’ve always wished my tubes were a little less vulnerable to ripping especially when pitching in heavy cover.
That material might be useful for making copies for more molds. You could probably use the 3 you made to make a bunch more molds then use the molds for regular materials.
All of the items used, to make those awesome lures. Where can I purchase? Molds and injectors, as well. Thanks in advance. By the way, awesome video!!!
I don't know if this is too much to ask for but can you use that zeman type stuff and get a metric mold and put it in thereand wallop please send it like a TH-camr if you don't want to fish with it but like if you can fish with it that's amazing but like if you can like ask fishing with Norm or somebody one of your friends to fish with it
Great video. I used to fish the Strike King elastic baits their jerk baits had good action and where literally indestructible. I went up north to fish and we used Ned rigs with Z-Man baits.
Dragon skin is also often used by adult toy companies ;) Great basic tutorial on it. but you could of probably gotten away with much cheaper silicone for fishing lures. And you can probably just use your regular pigments, you dont necassarily need to buy silicone specific pigments.
The concern was mixing dinp plasticizer base pigments with silicone..I'll definitely try it, but wanted to play it safe on camera and show people a more controlled way of using the dragon skin.
what u need is a vibration table they use them for candy but It would def work for this as well to make sure the silicon or whatever ur using gets into those cracks an crevices an would be a lot easier an baits will come out better
Cool part about this even at the cost is. You can custom hand paint these bad boys as well ! Then it can be skinned supposedly, protects the painting. I’ve seen it done on special effects videos
Hello, your content is very cool, congratulations! I'm from Brazil and I also make soft baits. Please can you tell me what material you used to make these baits? Thx 😉
I've always wondered if you need to flavor them when you make them yourself? Every time i but a pack of plastics its always coated with something and smells funny. Can you talk about that in a video?
It's not just Zman who has these extremely stretchy baits. Look at the Moby softbaits from iron claw to 😉... Look unspectacular but is very good rubber
how do think roof and gutter silicone would work although probably no runny enough for hand pour but if the nozzle was cut in the right spot could use a caulking gun to inject and paint and clear coat just a idea
about 3 months ago I was assisting my daughter in making a project she was doing and ended up making some open pour stick baits with her leftovers. I never thought to actually fish them though.
Great video. The silicone stuff seems like it would have it's time and place in the bait world. As a crappie fisherman, I dont think that stuff would work for baits. It looked to firm aka no action under water. Now if you could find a balance between the two, the possibility would be endless.
what is the exact name of the glitter color for the color of the day icouldnt hear what you said since no more captions im hearing impaired so it helps
@@hawkins3888 he does not say an exact color for the green just that it is small green flake and then he uses the .035 green flake which he says is the medium size. For the Black grape at the end I slowed the video down and it appears it is stock# 1x433c by the label on the container. Hope that helps and have a good day!!
@@WorldsWorstFishing thanks i enjoy your videos i havent started making anything yet as i have nothing right now just gathering all information so when i start i will know what im doing
man i love them zman ones for smallies and pickeral but utterly HATE rigging them XD screwlocks spin out, jig hook keepers get rejected and EWG's just scream and kick there legs
hey mate, that looks like a nice material ... but it's very expensive. Do you have any idea about some other material that it's tougher than the "normal" plastisol? I wanna do some soft crankbaits and I would like to use something tougher than plastisol. thanks mate and keep up with your channel ... some great content in here. cheers ...
Try a light GP top with a touch of green hilite (maybe add some black flake if you want some texture) and either straight red hilite for the belly or maybe add a touch of white pearl with the red hilite so the red isn't so intense. Just spit balling, but looking at pics of that color online, I think that should at least get you close to start
I blasted it with the heat gun to help cure it, silicone doesn't melt under heat it really only Burns.. would you have to get it extremely hot before it will burn
I like the way it stretches and I feel that making crayfish and Spinnerbait trailers would be great But I looked at the pricing and had to pass right now As I would want a gallon of the stuff But I just can't spend that much cash on product that will work great But sink my ability to do other projects
www.smooth-on.com/products/dragon-skin-fx-pro/
You’re probably already aware, but Bait Plastics just released their version of elastomer. I just got a gallon in and am going to pour some tonight.
@@taylorhickman84 yep..flexx...I spoke with Joe when they finished it. It seems to be working well for those who have tried it.
Hello, what is this mold based off of? If it is original, I might have one from your shop. Thanks!
What molds were those? They looked great!
@@taylorhickman84 Have you guys come up with any other suppliers?
*Found this through a TH-cam video **enjoyable.fishing** recommend does exactly what its meant to do. Very durable and no hang-ups at all surprisingly*
Thanks for watching!! These baits are tough to break!
This was really cool! Did you use the degasser on this material?
IS the material floaty? or does is sink? I suspect it floats.
@@fishman92772 it is very brilliant
@@fishman92772 buoyant
Those would be sick bridge and beach lures! Awesome vid!
"Iced Teal" would be a good name for those swimbaits. Awesome colors. Loved the color of the day too. 👍🏻😎
🙌🙌
You don’t need to treat silicone like the plastisol. You do not need release agents in anything metal, glass, most plastics. You will have problems if you overspray the release. You can get silicone that will be inhibited from curing. Also there is no shrinkage like plastisol, so you do not need to add the extra for shrinking during cooling. The main t8me you need release agent, is if you pour silicone into silicone. They will usually weld together. I hope the silicones work well for you.
I feel like every type of soft plastic should be made like this
Costs would be insane tho..
@@WorldsWorstFishing Zmans products are quite cheap and are made of a sorta similar plastic
@@fishingwithtidwell8137 yep they use a rubber elastomer..they can purchase it in quantities to keep economy of scale low..still a much more expensive material.
Love your vids, been waiting for this one for a long time ever since you brought it up in a video a long time ago. Super cool! I said I would love to see you try a pike or muskie pattern in the last vid and I think this would be the perfect plastic for that. And as always, have fun playing with glitter in your garage, you do it better than anyone.😊
Yeah this tough stuff is good for toothy fish
Adding pigment etc to the "B" part then mixing with the "A" gives generally better results. I would also recommend using a release made to release silicone from silicone. A vacuum system removes bubbles. Many videos are available on line BITY mold supply has many including using powders brushed dry into molds.
In what way are the results better when adding pigment to one half as opposed to both halves? I actually did not need my vacuum chamber for bubbles, I mixed slowly and did not see any micro bubbles thankfully. Very happy with the results I got from this stuff considering my first time.
Smooth On is a bit slow.I tend to use Polytek products at work because of that.(I am in the film business) In the summer and when it is hot mixing colors into "B" ( a habit from working with urethanes) gives more time for complete mixing, before cure starts. Usually about 2 minutes of mixing. Smooth On is more readily available and their 1:1 ratios make it easier for those starting out. There are many cool things resins do now. some are made to expand or contract so you can shrink or upsize a previous piece etc.. explore and have fun
Also I watched your "got a new vacuum Pump" video. Silicones will expand to a bit over 2x original volume before collapsing. be aware. since there is no heat with them the quart mixing cups sold at auto paint stores and some Home Depots work great for measuring and they are nonstick without release.
To cool! Also one of the things I appreciate about your videos Chris is the fact that you don't cut out the issues or problems one might also have with this great hobby. You always share the good and the bad unlike some other TH-camr's out there that I've seen. I for one especially appreciate that. Basically I have learned allot from your experiences both good and bad. Keep the awesome videos coming... I'll definitely keep watching sir.
we like to include the not-so-perfect results
Make top water buzz frogs with that because I fish for snake head a lot and they always bite my legs off
This looks so awesome! I've been wanting to make an artificial life-like frog project for a while (like a little robot of sort, either powered by a bunch of batteryless mechanisms like a perpetual motion water fountain or stuff like that or making it an actual life-like frog robot powered by a solar panel, I'm not entirely sure yet) and I think this stuff might be the perfect stuff for the skin! (As well as the fact I found the perfect mold making stuff for the skin) and the fact it doesn't have to be heated up makes it better and less likely the plastic thumbtacks in the eye sockets of my frog skin mold would melt. Also the durability makes it less likely that if I just added all the hollow spaces to the current mold itself instead of making a mold for making the hollow spaces with playdoh followed by disolving the playdoh (so only one mold is needed entirely) that the skin wouldn't tear if I were to pull it out of all these tight spaces. Just one question... Can I use alcohol ink as coloring (thus, allowing me to save money on not buying plastisol specific coloring and just use the coloring I already have)? Or will it blow up like it would if I were to use plastisol? Would it also be okay to apply worm oil to this stuff so I can mimic a realistic feel in the artificial life-like frog's skin? (To be fair, you might not know since this was your first time using it 3 years ago, but maybe you would know now?) Thank you for uploading this and also linking dragon skin fx pro on your pinned comment so I can get this next month, is is awesome to know about!
You bring a whole new angle to the way I look at baits now. I learn something in every video, so thank you for that.
👍👍🙏
Definitely loving this color of the day he’ll keep up the great work
That's the plan!
Very interesting video Teach. I remember Salmon fishing in the Pacific Ocean with my dad in the 50's and 60's. We used Herring as bait. These would have been a great addition to our tackle boxes. I don't remember ever being able to use a herring twice. lol! You are the best..
I need to try to catch a salmon one of these days
@@WorldsWorstFishing Some of the greatest times of my life. We started when I was nine years old. 12 ft homemade plywood boat and I believe it was a 8 horse Mercury outboard. Had to have balls to do that! lol
Hyper tough swim baits. These look incredible! Was wondering what you thought of a rattlesnake color? Would be cool as senko, trick, etc. worms and craws.
You should shoot some tubes with that stuff. I’ve always wished my tubes were a little less vulnerable to ripping especially when pitching in heavy cover.
Might be difficult but maybe worth it
@@WorldsWorstFishing lol made a spelling correction. Vulnerable is the word I was trying to use.
@16:17 when you made the unwise decision of choosing Taco Bell and wake up with the 3am squirts 💩 😂
What mold would you suggest for a beginner as a gift? ( plus other needed supplies)
Thank you enjoyed your video and I am looking forward to trying to make so
Im no chemist
But will the silicone mix with plastisol?
Loving the j-Bug purp.
;-)
I saw your post on Instagram and couldn’t wait to see the video! So glad you uploaded it tonight
U bet man
That is a pretty wild new bait. Very pretty color on the swim baits. The candy bug are awesome love that color. 👍👍
Thanks for coming
Nice! Chris, have you tried fishing them to see how long they last?
My cousin has taken them grouper fishing and they are pretty much indestructible
Man that candy bug color is amazing! Love that you started doing a color of the day.
Appreciate it
I like this stuff! I would like to see you continue to experiment with it further. I definitely want to see a swirl or laminate
i dont think any of that is feasible..but might try anyway
@@WorldsWorstFishing would love to see you try
That material might be useful for making copies for more molds. You could probably use the 3 you made to make a bunch more molds then use the molds for regular materials.
All of the items used, to make those awesome lures. Where can I purchase? Molds and injectors, as well. Thanks in advance. By the way, awesome video!!!
I don't know if this is too much to ask for but can you use that zeman type stuff and get a metric mold and put it in thereand wallop please send it like a TH-camr if you don't want to fish with it but like if you can fish with it that's amazing but like if you can like ask fishing with Norm or somebody one of your friends to fish with it
Great video. I used to fish the Strike King elastic baits their jerk baits had good action and where literally indestructible. I went up north to fish and we used Ned rigs with Z-Man baits.
yeah the old SK 3x zulu baits were good
This is so cool!!! Thanks for sharing. This facilitated so much cognitive ideas.
Be interesting to add glow in the dark powder to this mix
Have you tried the MF plastics in easy stretch material
Dragon skin is also often used by adult toy companies ;)
Great basic tutorial on it. but you could of probably gotten away with much cheaper silicone for fishing lures. And you can probably just use your regular pigments, you dont necassarily need to buy silicone specific pigments.
The concern was mixing dinp plasticizer base pigments with silicone..I'll definitely try it, but wanted to play it safe on camera and show people a more controlled way of using the dragon skin.
@@WorldsWorstFishing just use lazer printer ink powder. Works brilliantly.
How expensive is expensive. Color of the day is money. Thanks for sharing
i go over pricing in the video
what u need is a vibration table they use them for candy but It would def work for this as well to make sure the silicon or whatever ur using gets into those cracks an crevices an would be a lot easier an baits will come out better
Looking awesome keep up the good work. Your an inspiration to me and my son. We love your channel
Awesome! Thank you!
Cool part about this even at the cost is. You can custom hand paint these bad boys as well ! Then it can be skinned supposedly, protects the painting. I’ve seen it done on special effects videos
I love it color and just kind fishing glass you wearing yo
Need this for lingcod fishing
I wonder if you can heat that stuff up some right after mixing to lower the initial viscosity before it cures... Looks like an awesome new toy.
heat sets it much much faster
Hello, your content is very cool, congratulations!
I'm from Brazil and I also make soft baits. Please can you tell me what material you used to make these baits?
Thx 😉
The material he used was Dragon Skin FX-Pro. I need that material as well.
Cool video. Thanks for sharing.
You should do more fishing videos love the Channel
Great vid as always brother ! Think I might try that silicone on my stick baits mold ! Very inspirational
You should!
@@WorldsWorstFishing soon as I’m in the new house and unpacked I’m going to ! Did you get it online or at a hobby / craft store ?
How many creature baits do you think you get from those 2 bottles?
outstanding!
musky baits
Indeed
Great video. Seems that material is fun to try but would hate to work with all the time.
Yeah definitely not an everyday thing
Does it float like the zman plastics do?
Are we going to see a fishing video with the dragon skin baits? Pretty cool stuff.
If I can find time to get out I sure will
Should inject it. haha.
nvm, as soon as I typed this, you said you're going to inject. haha
We aim to please
Great Video!
Love the Color of the Day!
Thanks sir
I've always wondered if you need to flavor them when you make them yourself? Every time i but a pack of plastics its always coated with something and smells funny. Can you talk about that in a video?
Elaztech 👍 awsome vid Chris as always!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video. How do I get close to your color of the day with only dead on colors?
wow great video how do you add wire for hooks?
It's not just Zman who has these extremely stretchy baits.
Look at the Moby softbaits from iron claw to 😉... Look unspectacular but is very good rubber
I see they sell tpe pellets on ali express can u use those?
Man that’s a huge swim bait
It's a sizable bait
Id love to see you try to pour a laminate with that silicone stuff.
I wana make baits but that plastic or what effer is not for sale in the nl
I might need some of those for pike
Thanks exactly what i needed
Wonder if you could heat that up and add heated plastsol for a thinner plastic to pour easier. Or at least heat it so not so thick
Silicone does not remelt, once you mix the two parts together you have to use it then
Hey did the soft plastics float or do they sink I’m trying to make a fluke mold that floats
how do think roof and gutter silicone would work although probably no runny enough for hand pour but if the nozzle was cut in the right spot could use a caulking gun to inject and paint and clear coat just a idea
Travis was telling me you have to have something that is soft enough and workable enough, which is why he always used dragon skin
about 3 months ago I was assisting my daughter in making a project she was doing and ended up making some open pour stick baits with her leftovers. I never thought to actually fish them though.
This might be a stupid question but what if you added dead on to that stretchy stuff? Would something bad happen?
No clue
Love the candy bug good vid thanks
Thanks for watching!
Would you do a vid where you drip dye into hot plastisol but don't stir it before injecting?
On the color of the day part how much cost do you have in those 9 baits you made? You have really got me interested in making my own baits.
Love to see you pour a Medusa style Muskie bait!
Haha yes
I like the blue but black with red flake would be awesome and will that stuff float or sink
Floats like a cork
Thanks Chris. Video was #awesome!
👍👍👍
Great video. The silicone stuff seems like it would have it's time and place in the bait world. As a crappie fisherman, I dont think that stuff would work for baits. It looked to firm aka no action under water. Now if you could find a balance between the two, the possibility would be endless.
That stuff will catch fish all day long.
what is the exact name of the glitter color for the color of the day icouldnt hear what you said since no more captions im hearing impaired so it helps
He said he uses small green flake, then adds .035 green flake he calls it medium and then he uses black grape last.
ok ty its just that the brand he used has several different shades of green just trying to make sure i get proper shade for best effect
@@hawkins3888 he does not say an exact color for the green just that it is small green flake and then he uses the .035 green flake which he says is the medium size.
For the Black grape at the end I slowed the video down and it appears it is stock# 1x433c by the label on the container. Hope that helps and have a good day!!
lurecraft emerald green and black grape flakes
@@WorldsWorstFishing thanks i enjoy your videos i havent started making anything yet as i have nothing right now just gathering all information so when i start i will know what im doing
🔥color of the day 👊👊
👍👍
man i love them zman ones for smallies and pickeral but utterly HATE rigging them XD screwlocks spin out, jig hook keepers get rejected and EWG's just scream and kick there legs
Yeah it's a little too soft for me..this stuff is firmer
Looks like you had a rough night. Lol
🤣
I need a few of these
Do you need to use mould release?
Nice color on those bugs
Thanks 👍
I airbrush crankbaits and thought about doing some on soft plastics. what is the clear i've seen you dip a few of your larger swimbaits in?
Dead On Plastix..just clear without pigment
hey mate, that looks like a nice material ... but it's very expensive. Do you have any idea about some other material that it's tougher than the "normal" plastisol? I wanna do some soft crankbaits and I would like to use something tougher than plastisol. thanks mate and keep up with your channel ... some great content in here. cheers ...
Not that I know of, you get what you pay for I guess
Thats gonna be fun to get a hook into lol
Edit- not to bad I guess. Keep it up with the color of the day
no pike can destroy them.😁👌
Bonjour quel marque de plastique ?
Que faite vous du plastique restant quand il a durcit ?
I need this in every color and every soft plastic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
haha nice
For the color of the day can you try to color match the Mega Bass, MB gizzard color?
Try a light GP top with a touch of green hilite (maybe add some black flake if you want some texture) and either straight red hilite for the belly or maybe add a touch of white pearl with the red hilite so the red isn't so intense. Just spit balling, but looking at pics of that color online, I think that should at least get you close to start
Did you try to heat it at all?
I blasted it with the heat gun to help cure it, silicone doesn't melt under heat it really only Burns.. would you have to get it extremely hot before it will burn
Would be interested to know if they were super bouyant like Zmans
They did not float actually
What do you use to glue the eyes on with? I didn't think anything sticks to silicone (like super glue).
Loctite gel
Can this trick work with regular lure pigments? Or not?
@@predatorking3131 no
@@WorldsWorstFishing ah that's a shame, what sort of pigment would work then? Was thinking about making some in chartreuse
@@predatorking3131 silicone pigments
@@WorldsWorstFishing thanks!!
My favorite day drinking bait maker
Dang right!
Crazy stuff!!!
So you can microwave that glider without blowing up the microwave?
Hi
Hi
You should try to make some baits out of Jell-O
ah cool
Do you have a video on how you maintenance your injectors ?
just clean em out with worm oil and a brush
@@WorldsWorstFishing thank you sir 👍👍
I like the way it stretches and I feel that making crayfish and Spinnerbait trailers would be great
But I looked at the pricing and had to pass right now
As I would want a gallon of the stuff
But I just can't spend that much cash on product that will work great
But sink my ability to do other projects
Price is definitely the downside