I ordered this Netgear Orbi RBKE963 from the Netgear site. I ordered it in black. It took two days and here it is. Over the years I have spent generous amounts of cash on equipment. So, I hooked it up and for the very first time in my life, I have my entire house and backyard blazing. I deserve this..
Thanks for the review. I just upgraded from an Eero Pro 6 system to an Asus ET8 system. I love the ET8s over the Eero Pro 6 for the following reasons: 1. Size is bigger than the Eeros. But not to the point where the units are hard to place and come up against wide acceptance factor. 2. Speed over the Eeros. 3. Massive improvement in customization and control via the dashboard as opposed to the Eero app. 4. Security functions didn’t require a subscription as does Eero with Secure+. As for the ET8 and the Orbis you reviewed. Those Orbis are definitely OUT for me. 1. They are HUGE. Where the heck are you going to put them? The range is good bc they are the like cell towers compared to other Wifi routers! 2. The COST! Ugh. 3. I get the impression that you are limited to only two nodes/satellites. Deal breaker for me bc I have network switches and other Ethernet connected gear so that means I need satellites near them unless I am going to get a contractor to run cables all around my house (not happening). So while the Orbi range is great. I don’t need to cover an office building with one router. They are big and ugly. Finally you are limited to two ugly satellites. So this system is a definite no-go for me. I am happy with the Asus ET8s. Thanks.
No problem! Excellent reasons you have pointed out. I have all the mesh WiFi’s you mentioned and I would say the ET8 is a better deal cause it is better than the eero and nowhere near as expensive as the Orbi and comes with features subscription free where the Orbi and eero do not. I will also say, this Orbi is better than the ET8 thanks to it’s better range, better wireless backhaul speeds, better wired backhaul speeds because of the 2.5Gb ports but unless these are very important, the ET8 is the way to go
Thank you for so much for the video!! Money is no object for me. I just placed my order to upgrade my Unifi network/AP, which I'm getting piss poor throughput speeds
I will honestly tell you one thing about orbi. I have tri band orbi WiFi 5 which I used in my house for a while before upgrading to WiFi 6e eero which was cheap. I moved that orbi wifi 5 tri band on my business and man the range is insanely good. I wanted orbi for my house too but this wifi 6e orbi are very very expensive. Orbi is worth getting if internet is your day and night job and you have a big business completely relying on the internet if not the eero is just fine. Maybe those who stream on twitch and stuff this is a good deal as well.
Was waiting for this review, thank you! I wanted to know on the power, is it using a different size connection vs rbk852 as I have a router ups on my current system for each sattelite. That would mean additional cost if I needed to change which would put me off.
Do you still recommended this router in late 2023 now or is there better for the money or should I wait for orbi wifi 7? Been using the orbi RBK23 for close to 5 years now but can't get the speeds I am paying for out of them. Getting 951mbps down in the orbi app and get 651mbps down if I'm right on top of the main router and the satellites only put off 351mbps down when backhauled and on wifi. Looking to get the full speeds out of my plan wirelessly and backhauled. But $1,499 for a router that's almost 2 years old is beyond insane and with wifi 7 hitting the market with other brands i know orbi this holiday season should have a new product out soon which "should" drop the prices of this unit soom and offer a new product with even faster speeds and more range. Any input would be appreciated.
Aiming for the end of this month. Currently using the linksys atlas max 6E to see how well this one is so I can compare all 3 WiFi 6E mesh systems; Orbi vs ET8 vs atlas 6E
Great video as always. Looks like this Orbi model is NOT a good neighbor if configured wrongly. Very powerful and useful for large detached houses. The other thing that i don't quite understand are: 1) FCC limits the power of transmission, how can Orbi's range is superior than other router brand? 2) I understand that most routers can transmit farther than most mobiles. How can a mobile returns a signal at 100 meters away as shown in this video? Pixel 6E radio uses more powerful transmitters?
Thanks! 1. Power of transmission, the larger antennas should help, speed rating matters and the wifi device able to pick up the signal from so far away. 2. Well with little interference it is possible, aside from a wall or two, im in an open area as I walk away from the router. The other important note is that I'm performing a LAN speed test so it would need to be on my network to perform the test. I should also mention that at that point, the signal is just about to dissappear as my phone wants to switch to the mobile data. One thing I've noticed is that when I started testing my wifi 6e devices like the Pixel 6 Pro and Galaxy S22 Ultra with wifi 6 mesh systems. Even though those mesh systems don't support wifi 6E, the 6E devices typically perform better than the 6 device like the iPhone 13 Pro Max which tells me the 6E devices have better hardware. It seems they utilize wifi 6 mesh systems better than wifi 6 devices.
I just got mine yesterday. I got the black edition. It was a pain in the ass setting it up inside the orbi app for iOS. I had to visit the orbi IP address to get it set up. Thx for your reviews!
No problem! I set mine up with the app, no issues for me. Sometimes it's just the modem that needs to be power cycled. Glad it's up, are you experiencing similar results in terms of speed and range?
@@landpet I haven’t had too much time to test it. It was late last night but in one room I was getting 200mbps more than I had gotten on my old system. Then this morning I was getting a lot worse results. Tomorrow when I get home I will do a test in every room properly
@@landpet just wanted to quickly ask if you noticed smart home devices having trouble connecting to the network. I have noticed sometimes I have to turn off the 5ghz connect the device then turn 5ghz back on. I didn’t have that problem with my last system.
Nice review. I’ve been waiting for a review of this product. Would it make a practical difference (now or future) if the router had two 10 gig ports and the satellites one 10 gig port? That way the future ISP speeds of up to 10 gig would be available on all units, not only those connected to the router. Is the 10.800 combined wireless speed of the router possible to give to one wireless client? (Depending on client spec off course.) If yes, then multiple 10 gig ports would make sense for more future proofing. If no client can use more than 2.5 gig wirelessly, then the current port-mix makes sense.
Thanks! I think the current issue is that the WiFi device can’t go anywhere near those speeds. So even though it has the 2 2.5 Gb ports, my phone hits about 1.8 Gb. However I do think it would be useful for the extra 10Gb ports just to wire everything at 10Gb so your wired network would support it for computer to computer transfers or NAS transfers throughout your entire home. The WiFi dream speeds are still in the future, not so distant I hope
@@landpet So, 2 2.5gbit ports means i can only wire ONE backhaul? So one satelite would still be in the 5GHz dedicated and the other one wired? Have you tried to connect these to a AXE11000 Nighthawk?
Orbi is better, I did a whole comparison video between them. The short version is Orbi offers better performance and ASUS offers more options and free parental controls
I noticed that when you showed the PC version of the setup that's this Orbi has better band separation, what i mean its easier to separate all the bands, especially when you want to still pair older devices that support only 2.4 band only... I also checked my settings and I did not see the really easy way like in yours, I know how to stop broadcasting the 5ghz band to easier pair older devices but from what I saw in your video at time stamp 14:12 under wireless IoT settings Netgear finally made it easier. By the way I have the ORBI 850 with 1 satellite, covering 2500sq feet. Maybe you could elaborate a little on the band separation and maybe a short video? a short demo. Thanks
@@andrewkruzienski770 yes I actually upgraded to the Wi-Fi 6e Orbi mesh. Yes it’s expensive but I no longer have any issues with connecting the older 2.4 ghz devices. All I have to do is turn on the 2.4ghz band and that’s it. Also my new pc has 6ghz band Wi-Fi and it’s amazing
@@jkapusty Wow thanks for the response. So when you want to add a 2.4 GHZ item can you flip between bands on your own phone? Or is it on PC. Then just flip back once added?
@@andrewkruzienski770 once you log into Orbi web base interface you can set your bands up or turn them off as you please. You can’t do that from the phone app you have to log into web base which has lots more functions
They’re both good, Asus has more options (then again most people don’t need this many options including myself). I think price would be a factor for me since I like both. Can’t go wrong either way.
@@landpet Okay thank you for the reply and great video. I went with the asus xt8 but now the store near me just got ET8 I’m wondering if it’s worth upgrade
If you get a 2.5GB switch, you could go from routers 2.5GB port to 2.5gb switch, then from the switch to the 2.5gb satellite. That's still considered wired backhaul. In fact, that's how mine is connected with the exception that I have a 10 gb switch instead
Am I correct that in the fully wireless mesh setup, the upper 5 GHz WiFi band is used only for dedicated backhaul traffic. Which means clients connecting on the 5 GHz band can only use the lower 5 GHz band (I.e., chs. 36-64)? And yes, at $1500 a pop (currently on Amazon) for this system is way too rich for my blood. Decided to go with the Asus ET8 for only about a third as much. ....
I haven't checked the specifics in terms of channels but yes you are correct generally speaking. ET8 is a great choice, I'm gonna do a review between this the ET8 and Atlas and I think considering the price, you get much more from the ET8 even though this is better if we remove price from the equation.
Whenever I look for a review of products that involve home networking, I look for a channel that's very detailed of every switch, button, and or size comparason aside to other home decorations. Thank you very much for your overview... !
I'm with Frontier FIOS. The Orbi 752 should be able to get faster than that, unless you're next to the Orbi satellite that is connected via wireless backhaul. You're device also needs to be able to support faster speeds. Local speed tests run much faster than internet speed tests as well, just as a heads up.
Not sure I follow, in the case of this Orbi. You would connect the router to your ONT and the Orbi would do the rest, you can wire these to each other via ethernet or have them use wireless backhaul. If the question was a general one, you can get SFP (but you would still need to get ethernet to connect to this mesh system) which is kind of the like the fiber optic equivalent of Ethernet however I don't really see a benefit since you can also get a 10Gbps ethernet with the 10Gbps switch and call it a day.
Hello, quick question please... Can you please let me know, what's the difference between AX6000 vs AX11000.. I have option of RBK852 and Nighthawk RAX200. Can you please guide... Which one is best...
That is the speed rating, so AX means it's a WiFi 6 router or mesh. The number portion is a sum of all the speeds from all the bands. So if it's a tri band router, it will be the sum of the fastest wifi speeds each band can handle. There are a lot of details in here which can even cause a "slower speed rating" to actually work faster than a "faster speed rating" since the individual band can actually be faster in one case versus another but let me simplify it and generalize it. In summary, (not necessarily true all the time) the higher the number, the faster speeds it can handle on wifi assuming you have the need for it and your wifi devices can handle it. But if you only care about internet speeds and not local network speeds and your internet is let's say 100Mbps, you're not going to see much of a difference between AX6000 and AX11000 since AX6000 will most likely be fast enough for what you're trying to do even if you use wireless backhaul. This might not be the best analogy but think of buying a pickup truck, one can tow 6000 lbs and another can tow 11000 lbs. If you only need to tow 2000 lbs, then you won't notice much of a difference between the two. It depends how big your place is, the simple answer is, if you have a larger home 1500 sq ft or larger, go with the Orbi otherwise the RAX200 would be fine. The RAX200 can in theory provide faster wifi speeds if you're close to it (assuming your wifi devices can handle those speeds) but the Orbi is also fast (granted not quite as fast) but the Orbi will provide more wifi range.
Do you know if the Satellites have to pass through backhall traffic to the Router or can multiple Satellites communicate through backhall and then to the Router?
I believe they can go through each other before getting to the router but you always want to place the router centrally to maximize speeds on the satellites since they the satellites can have a direct connection.
Just curious, why with a wired connection to your local server, you only got 1.7-1.8gbps. I would have imagined 6E to give 4.8gbps. Also, with wireless backhaul 6E should get 2.4gbps (limitation on 5ghz connection) any theories why for slow connection? Is it just the natural degradation? I have 5gbps internet available. If these connections are what I can expect then no point paying for the service.
Speedtest app for internet. Open speed test server (installed on my computer) for local speed tests. I will do a video on this since many people are asking
I need help. I currently have the Orbi RBK50(wifi5) and in the same room as the router I get about 650mbps and near the satellites I get about 450mbps. My connection is 1gig. Would this give me noteworthy increase
Just going off a guess, this should improve your wireless backhaul speeds, so near the satellites, you will have better speeds. However that 650 might be the best your WiFi device can do, if it can do better than you will most likely see an improvement there but it might not be much. I think the bigger improvement will be your satellite speed will improve and your range will improve based on everything that I’ve seen and tested with this Orbi
I’m curious what the reliability is of this system. I’ve stayed away from orbi because I’ve read reviews that it randomly drops connection forcing a restart or losing the ability to see other devices on the network. If they have solved that problem I would be interested in this system.
@@landpet this is an expensive system. I’m going to subscribe and keep an eye for long term reviews. Maybe 3, 6, and 12 months? Any issues you have along the way I’d love to hear about them. If everything is solid for 3-6 months I may invest in it.
As of couple of days, I have rgb50 which has been great up until recently. My app doesn't see the other two satellites only the router. If I go via the Brower, im.able to the two satellites unlike the app. I started to drop connection and it's because I'm thinking all the other devices are connect to router and may not be able to handle the devices..unless they fix this issue, I won't consider upgrading.
@@landpet have you a reliably update? That’s my biggest worry. I was to upgrade from our AMPLIFI HD which has been very reliable. But the speeds just aren’t anywhere near the 1GB we pay for.
I have the 963, i was a little disappointed until I dropped to using the main router with a single satellite. In most 4 bedroom hse's the 3rd satellite will be an overkill, causing devices like my fold3 and galaxy ultra22 to keep changing their mind on which AP to connect to (causing dropouts) . Netgear do mention distances between APs. My solution is all ethernet back to 10gb switches. It will have been discussed, but im unable to use the higher wifi6 5ghz band, as orbi keeps it for its mesh solution, which on wired is pointless. The solution does not allow for satellites or the main router, the option to weaken the signal on a single AP, instead you have to choose from 100%, 50% and 25% for all. Its a real shame and in hindsight, the asus et12 would have been a better and cheaper option, as would have been just using Access points. We live and learn. 🤗
Hey man. Thanks for the Great video and review. I just wanna ask if you could used old orbi mesh as a satellite to the new orbi mesh just to expand more coverage? Is it possible?
No problem! Orbi has more restrictions when it comes to various Orbi's working with each other. From what I remember you cannot mix wifi 5 and wifi 6. I'm assuming and I can be wrong here, they would have the same restriction between wifi 6E and wifi 6. eero on the other hand while not as fast are backwards compatible with all of their models according to eero.
I agree, That can be a game changer for some. I don’t go that far into detail since my videos are already kind of long since I go through the various tests and configuration with some explanation. I’m trying to figure out how to make them shorter honestly but it’s difficult since I do have various scenarios
I go through a 10Gbps switch, you can also get a 2.5Gbps switch for much less than a 10Gbps. You would wire it like the following: Modem > Router > switch > to both satellites
my question is if your modem is 10gbps it should be plugged to the 10gb port and you will need another 10gb port to connect ot your desktop. if there is only 1 x 10gb port and you have a plan for 2.5 it's fine . but not future proof for 10gb if you have the plan for that.. i think it is waste of $$ if your country don;t even have 2.5 or or 10gb and just want to focus on the wifi 6. the only way i can see it to work is to get a switch which supports 2x 10gb port and you can make use of the netgear orbi. not coming in cheap..
Yup as you mentioned if you have a 10Gbps port on your machine and it's hooked up to a 10Gbps switch which is hooked up to a NAS that supports 10Gbps, then you can also have fast transfers between your PC and NAS but yes it would be nice if they included 2 10Gbps ports especially considering the price but most other wifi's have the same problem as this one, in fact most of the other ones have one multi-gig port and the rest are gigabit.
These things costs an arm, a leg, one of your friend's kidney, your father's truck and one of your child. So yeah. I'd rather cable up my whole house and use professional grade access points and Microtik. Much safer and I would be able to sell it at a good price too.
They definitely do cost a lot. I do like wired networks cause they can make just about any mesh wifi really good with the exception of range. This is just a really simple way of getting good wifi without much work.
@@landpet Thanks. I did purchase the Netgear Orbi RBK852 and then found out it could not separate the SSIDs, I sent it back. I did pick up the Asus ET8 and it seems to work pretty well thus far and has all the tech features I require. Separation of the SSIDs are not an unusual request from what I see on the support pages of Netgear. I know Linksys does have multiple SSIDs capabilities as well.
The term satellite in this case just means a non router, an extra node that extends coverage from the router. 2 of the 3 units are referred to as satellites. It has no reference to an actual satellite. You would need an ISP for internet access, with an ISP, this mesh would with fine on a boat.
I currently use the google wifi (not the nest) system that operate my rings, all my smart switches , etc. if I were to replace with this orbi will the rings and other devices still work? I read some comments on other videos that I need a dedicated 2.4 to continue operating these devices and the orbi will cause me issues. Any response?
So the Orbi like other mesh wifi's support 2.4GHz. I have a bunch of ring cameras (spotlight, stickup, indoor, floodlight) and the ring alarm and I've had no issues connecting them to any of the mesh wifi's/routers I've tested. This Orbi is no exception, it does have a 2.4GHz band and it will automatically connect your devices to the appropriate band. If you want things to auto connect, you just need to use the same SSID from your Google Wifi on this Orbi and everything will auto connect. P.S. thank you for specifying not the Nest, granted I had the Nest Wifi and I do know that replaced the Google Wifi.
I am quite happy with the Asus XT8 and that's coming down in price now (most likely as there's a 6E version also). Even with 920/110 fibre, the backhaul is sufficient but you do only get 80MHz 5GHz (1201Mbps) which might restrict you slightly. I still think on balance that's where the smart money goes (no additional subs) but if you have money to burn, this looks awesome.
This is definitely not a budget friendly solution and very little wifi 6e support. It's just good for future proofing, very good wireless backhaul speeds and very good range and very bad for your wallet
@@landpet We don't seem to have any 6E products in the UK yet (I guess there's some certification issue) but I saw the fact it's $1499 and then they try and sell warranty and extras on top and I figure it really is terrible for the wallet. I am sure that post CES 2022 we'll see more affordable offerings from others, but I think this offers a level of future proofing that is probably not necessary unless you will benefit from faster networking between local devices. I think gigabit fibre is probably more than most people will buy at home, so few people need to buy something that can cope with 10Gbps. It's a totally different story for businesses of course!
@@landpet I ordered the Linksys 6E mesh system it was on sale for $899 at Best Buy haven’t in stalled it yet It was $300 off the regular price so I thought that was a pretty good deal off the top of your head without testing the linksys system do you think the Orbi is a better system what do you think that there’s very little different between the two considering the Orbi is $1499 vs $899 for the linksys wonder if I should’ve waited for the Orbi to come down in the future
@@nathanlocklear453 I just got the Atlas 2 pack (lol this happens sometimes when they give me a far out date and send it way sooner), I'll have the video out in about 2 weeks. Off the top, I think the Orbi will be better in terms of range and probably a bit better over wireless backhaul speeds as well. But is it worth the extra price? Either way I will test the Atlas and see how well it does. $300 off is a good deal!
I tested these and hardware is great but the app is not great. If eero could do this hardware with this app that would be a winner. I wired them with 2.5Gb/s switch.
@@landpet don’t remember you mentioning it but the mobile app knows nothing about 6GHz and I had to enable on the browser. Doesn’t come enabled by default.
@@metsfaninct Yup, it needs to be done from the browser. I just showed it in the video at 14:15 without specifically saying you can only do this on the browser.
Yes, it would be good to set the bgw320 in bridge mode so you can disable the WiFi router so that the Orbi can be the main router or you can run the Orbi in access point mode which will expand the current WiFi coverage. I recommend disabling the router portion of the bgw320 if possible
@@landpet This works, but I feel the orbi is a better buy at this moment since it has 2 ports over 1G right now. The main point is to have a full wired backhaul. But 2.5G as a home network should be quite good for now. Would be nice to have it all on the 10G internally and the 2.5G for the WAN connection.
From a network engineer and wireless specialist in enterprise networks you should not think that range is speed. More range less speed, limit the power and minimum data rates to 18 or 24Mb to reduce cell size. I don't think these units will let you control them that much. I would limit the power to where you have -67 RSSI from AP and Client side or SNR of 25+ so you can have cell boundaries defined. I live in SF so so many people around us blasting some terrible programming like 2.4Ghz on channel 4 or 9, yes I'm looking at you xfinity ISP, your devices are terrible and ruin signals. - NetworkNickOfficial Ill make some videos if someone sends me some units. Thanks for the video Landpet!
I did an ISP speed test first but the rest of the tests are local area speed tests so I can find the true potential of this mesh. I do this since there are people with faster internets, I don't want to cap my results otherwise it wouldn't be accurate.
my internet provider is only 1gb is it worth it to buy this. i'm having a lot of dead zones in the house even if i'm next room to the router i don't get much signal. this would be the main reason of buying this. would appreciate some advice guys. thank you.
Having dead zone issues also. I think it is worth it to upgrade to the overkill since they'll be coming out with faster home speeds any day now all over the country. Future proof hopefully.
@@theoptimalspark8198 I'm in the UK and for 1g speed is at £70 a month!! Which is ridiculous in my opinion 😅 And now I'm about yo buy this at £1500 Just wanted to see if it's worth that much money
There are cheaper options that should do a pretty good job, however this particular one is amazing. If this doesn't work for you, I don't think you'll have much luck with others.
@@AR-fq7zu That's a tough question to answer, it is amazing and does work extremely well, wired or wireless. ASUS ET12 also works very well and it costs much less (granted that covers less area since it's a 2 pack vs the 3 pack Orbi). Looking into the future, I do see better routers coming out for less. As of now, it probably is worth the money.
I had very high hopes for the Netgear RBKE963 that I purchased on 1/15/2022. Performance was very strong in the beginning, till 3-4 month later. It's very good when everything works, but good luck when you lose power even when I have a APC UPS. The power grid in the south - Atlanta isn't the best, honestly. I called tech support immediately when after multiple reboots on the Orbi app and manual reboots. Some of the IoT devices and wifi laptops refuse to connect. Laptops would display connected, but No Internet, secured. Frustrating as hell! Tech support ticket was opened on 4/3 and several debug logs uploaded and as of 4/26 no response and a solution. I can't imagine anyone paying for support when they drag it to 3-4 weeks for a response or a solution. I needed to work and I'm a network engineer myself. I immediately pulled it out of my network rack and put my trusty ubiquiti unifi controller and ap's. sorry, netgear your $1500 ap is highway robbery honestly and your orbi app is terrible with no fix even with 10-15 reboots. Not sure if its the security armor or the cloud anywhere access is causing the problems. I'm giving up on this $1500 paper weight for now.
Yeah the Asus ET8, I've reviewed that as well. After I finish the Linksys atlas wifi 6E video. I'll do a comparison between the three wifi 6e mesh wifis
Wait… why is the backhaul 5 GHz? Wouldn’t a dedicated 6 GHz system for wireless backhaul be better? Did they do 5 GHz to be backwards compatible with their older mesh products? If so, who is buying a $1,500 mesh system and not replacing their existing infrastructure? Then again, by that logic, who is using wireless backhaul if they can afford this system? Was it for better range? Or just to keep the 6 GHz airways as clear as possible for people speed testing the latest devices? Wait.. who is this system for, again? Is this system designed for stupid early adopters who aren’t thinking this through? I’m confused.
5 GHz does have a longer range than 6GHz. I imagine that's the reason they went with that as the dedicated wireless backhaul. Since this is advertised for up to a 9000 sq ft house., 5 GHz would do better than 6GHz from that perspective.
@@landpet ; This and also for the reason that Orbi uses a fully "dedicated" backhaul wireless link that WiFi clients are never allowed to connect to. So if they chose the 6 Ghz band for the dedicated wireless backhaul then no wireless 6E clients (such as the Samsung s21 ultra or Goggle Pixel 6 Pro smartphones in the video) could ever access the 6 Ghz band! Therefore Orbi could only select one of the two 5 Ghz sub-bands. The "5 Ghz - 2" band (or WiFi chs. 149 to 161). Leaving the other sub-band "5 Ghz - 1" (or WiFi chs. 36 to 48) exclusively for clients to connect to on the 5 Ghz band. So for the clients the WiFi bands available on the Orbi here are .... 2.4 Ghz 5 Ghz-1 6 Ghz This scheme though leads to somewhat of a disadvantage in the wireless mesh setup. Since the greater speed of clients connecting to a satellite on the 6 Ghz band at 160 Mhz bandwidth. Is partly nullified by the use of only an 80 Mhz max. bandwidth limitation of the backhaul channel on the 5 Ghz band.
Oebi is the worst router I have ever had. Their app has bugs and they never fix the IOT devices issues. Go with Unifi, Asus, or anything else but them. Mesh sucks for roaming.
This is a shit device with poor software and networking features. If are looking to do anything more than internet access this isnt the device. The static routing on this device does not work.
I ordered this Netgear Orbi RBKE963 from the Netgear site. I ordered it in black. It took two days and here it is. Over the years I have spent generous amounts of cash on equipment. So, I hooked it up and for the very first time in my life, I have my entire house and backyard blazing. I deserve this..
Wow that range is insane! Amazing reviews as usual!
Yes it is! Thank you!
Thanks for the review. I just upgraded from an Eero Pro 6 system to an Asus ET8 system. I love the ET8s over the Eero Pro 6 for the following reasons: 1. Size is bigger than the Eeros. But not to the point where the units are hard to place and come up against wide acceptance factor. 2. Speed over the Eeros. 3. Massive improvement in customization and control via the dashboard as opposed to the Eero app. 4. Security functions didn’t require a subscription as does Eero with Secure+. As for the ET8 and the Orbis you reviewed. Those Orbis are definitely OUT for me. 1. They are HUGE. Where the heck are you going to put them? The range is good bc they are the like cell towers compared to other Wifi routers! 2. The COST! Ugh. 3. I get the impression that you are limited to only two nodes/satellites. Deal breaker for me bc I have network switches and other Ethernet connected gear so that means I need satellites near them unless I am going to get a contractor to run cables all around my house (not happening). So while the Orbi range is great. I don’t need to cover an office building with one router. They are big and ugly. Finally you are limited to two ugly satellites. So this system is a definite no-go for me. I am happy with the Asus ET8s. Thanks.
No problem! Excellent reasons you have pointed out. I have all the mesh WiFi’s you mentioned and I would say the ET8 is a better deal cause it is better than the eero and nowhere near as expensive as the Orbi and comes with features subscription free where the Orbi and eero do not. I will also say, this Orbi is better than the ET8 thanks to it’s better range, better wireless backhaul speeds, better wired backhaul speeds because of the 2.5Gb ports but unless these are very important, the ET8 is the way to go
Can't wait to see the Deco XE200 review and test from you!
Thank you for so much for the video!! Money is no object for me. I just placed my order to upgrade my Unifi network/AP, which I'm getting piss poor throughput speeds
No problem! Glad to hear that as well!
I will honestly tell you one thing about orbi. I have tri band orbi WiFi 5 which I used in my house for a while before upgrading to WiFi 6e eero which was cheap. I moved that orbi wifi 5 tri band on my business and man the range is insanely good. I wanted orbi for my house too but this wifi 6e orbi are very very expensive. Orbi is worth getting if internet is your day and night job and you have a big business completely relying on the internet if not the eero is just fine. Maybe those who stream on twitch and stuff this is a good deal as well.
Was waiting for this review, thank you! I wanted to know on the power, is it using a different size connection vs rbk852 as I have a router ups on my current system for each sattelite. That would mean additional cost if I needed to change which would put me off.
I don't know what the rbk852 uses, I have the rbk752 and this rbke963 does use more power than the 752 but not by a large amount.
Do you still recommended this router in late 2023 now or is there better for the money or should I wait for orbi wifi 7? Been using the orbi RBK23 for close to 5 years now but can't get the speeds I am paying for out of them. Getting 951mbps down in the orbi app and get 651mbps down if I'm right on top of the main router and the satellites only put off 351mbps down when backhauled and on wifi. Looking to get the full speeds out of my plan wirelessly and backhauled. But $1,499 for a router that's almost 2 years old is beyond insane and with wifi 7 hitting the market with other brands i know orbi this holiday season should have a new product out soon which "should" drop the prices of this unit soom and offer a new product with even faster speeds and more range. Any input would be appreciated.
Up to you, it’s a great router. WiFi 7 will be better.
TP Link Deco BE85 is better compared to this
@@landpethi! Just a follow up. BE85 is better also in range compared to the ORBI 6e?
Can't wait for the compare video!
Aiming for the end of this month. Currently using the linksys atlas max 6E to see how well this one is so I can compare all 3 WiFi 6E mesh systems; Orbi vs ET8 vs atlas 6E
Great video as always.
Looks like this Orbi model is NOT a good neighbor if configured wrongly. Very powerful and useful for large detached houses. The other thing that i don't quite understand are:
1) FCC limits the power of transmission, how can Orbi's range is superior than other router brand?
2) I understand that most routers can transmit farther than most mobiles. How can a mobile returns a signal at 100 meters away as shown in this video? Pixel 6E radio uses more powerful transmitters?
Thanks!
1. Power of transmission, the larger antennas should help, speed rating matters and the wifi device able to pick up the signal from so far away.
2. Well with little interference it is possible, aside from a wall or two, im in an open area as I walk away from the router. The other important note is that I'm performing a LAN speed test so it would need to be on my network to perform the test. I should also mention that at that point, the signal is just about to dissappear as my phone wants to switch to the mobile data.
One thing I've noticed is that when I started testing my wifi 6e devices like the Pixel 6 Pro and Galaxy S22 Ultra with wifi 6 mesh systems. Even though those mesh systems don't support wifi 6E, the 6E devices typically perform better than the 6 device like the iPhone 13 Pro Max which tells me the 6E devices have better hardware. It seems they utilize wifi 6 mesh systems better than wifi 6 devices.
Great review dude! Thanks!
Thanks!
I just got mine yesterday. I got the black edition. It was a pain in the ass setting it up inside the orbi app for iOS. I had to visit the orbi IP address to get it set up.
Thx for your reviews!
No problem! I set mine up with the app, no issues for me. Sometimes it's just the modem that needs to be power cycled. Glad it's up, are you experiencing similar results in terms of speed and range?
@@landpet I haven’t had too much time to test it. It was late last night but in one room I was getting 200mbps more than I had gotten on my old system. Then this morning I was getting a lot worse results. Tomorrow when I get home I will do a test in every room properly
@@DannyTammaro That's interesting, maybe the speed test server is busy if you're using a public one.
@@landpet just wanted to quickly ask if you noticed smart home devices having trouble connecting to the network. I have noticed sometimes I have to turn off the 5ghz connect the device then turn 5ghz back on. I didn’t have that problem with my last system.
Nice review. I’ve been waiting for a review of this product.
Would it make a practical difference (now or future) if the router had two 10 gig ports and the satellites one 10 gig port? That way the future ISP speeds of up to 10 gig would be available on all units, not only those connected to the router. Is the 10.800 combined wireless speed of the router possible to give to one wireless client? (Depending on client spec off course.) If yes, then multiple 10 gig ports would make sense for more future proofing. If no client can use more than 2.5 gig wirelessly, then the current port-mix makes sense.
Thanks! I think the current issue is that the WiFi device can’t go anywhere near those speeds. So even though it has the 2 2.5 Gb ports, my phone hits about 1.8 Gb. However I do think it would be useful for the extra 10Gb ports just to wire everything at 10Gb so your wired network would support it for computer to computer transfers or NAS transfers throughout your entire home. The WiFi dream speeds are still in the future, not so distant I hope
@@landpet So, 2 2.5gbit ports means i can only wire ONE backhaul? So one satelite would still be in the 5GHz dedicated and the other one wired? Have you tried to connect these to a AXE11000 Nighthawk?
Bro these things look HUGE!
Yes they are big
Nice review. How would you compare its performance vs ASUS ET12? Thanks.
Orbi is better, I did a whole comparison video between them. The short version is Orbi offers better performance and ASUS offers more options and free parental controls
I noticed that when you showed the PC version of the setup that's this Orbi has better band separation, what i mean its easier to separate all the bands, especially when you want to still pair older devices that support only 2.4 band only... I also checked my settings and I did not see the really easy way like in yours, I know how to stop broadcasting the 5ghz band to easier pair older devices but from what I saw in your video at time stamp 14:12 under wireless IoT settings Netgear finally made it easier. By the way I have the ORBI 850 with 1 satellite, covering 2500sq feet. Maybe you could elaborate a little on the band separation and maybe a short video? a short demo. Thanks
Did you ever figure this out? You think it is worth upgrading from the 850s? I'm thinking about doing it.
@@andrewkruzienski770 yes I actually upgraded to the Wi-Fi 6e Orbi mesh. Yes it’s expensive but I no longer have any issues with connecting the older 2.4 ghz devices. All I have to do is turn on the 2.4ghz band and that’s it. Also my new pc has 6ghz band Wi-Fi and it’s amazing
@@jkapusty Wow thanks for the response. So when you want to add a 2.4 GHZ item can you flip between bands on your own phone? Or is it on PC. Then just flip back once added?
@@andrewkruzienski770 once you log into Orbi web base interface you can set your bands up or turn them off as you please. You can’t do that from the phone app you have to log into web base which has lots more functions
@@jkapusty Excellent thanks man
Thanks for the review!
You’re welcome
Great review, very clear I’m detail and understanding. I do have different question. Would you prefer the orbi 6 over the ASUS xt8 for my ps5?
They’re both good, Asus has more options (then again most people don’t need this many options including myself). I think price would be a factor for me since I like both. Can’t go wrong either way.
@@landpet Okay thank you for the reply and great video. I went with the asus xt8 but now the store near me just got ET8 I’m wondering if it’s worth upgrade
Great product, I do wish they gave us another 2.5gb lan port so I can connect a switch while having a wired backhaul
If you get a 2.5GB switch, you could go from routers 2.5GB port to 2.5gb switch, then from the switch to the 2.5gb satellite. That's still considered wired backhaul. In fact, that's how mine is connected with the exception that I have a 10 gb switch instead
@@landpet thanks, but I plan on using both Satellites, how can I go about that? Thanks so much!!
@@Weezy533 Exactly like he said.
@@landpet What 10gb switch do you have?
@@highlanderc Netgear 8 Port 10G Multi-Gig Unmanaged Switch: amzn.to/3ezpCkx
I also have the links in the description section
Great video. Do you know when game booster will be added to the software?
Thanks and no I don't. Maybe best to ask Netgear.
Thanks for the video... but its way to big and bulky for me ...
No problem
@Jake Roberts nice!
They are actually smaller than any other 8 antenna router. Similar in size to Xfinity modem
For the range test, did you have just the router setup and working or with one satellite or both even for the full total use of all 3?
2 setup but I'm walking away from the main one
Am I correct that in the fully wireless mesh setup, the upper 5 GHz WiFi band is used only for dedicated backhaul traffic. Which means clients connecting on the 5 GHz band can only use the lower 5 GHz band (I.e., chs. 36-64)?
And yes, at $1500 a pop (currently on Amazon) for this system is way too rich for my blood. Decided to go with the Asus ET8 for only about a third as much. ....
I haven't checked the specifics in terms of channels but yes you are correct generally speaking. ET8 is a great choice, I'm gonna do a review between this the ET8 and Atlas and I think considering the price, you get much more from the ET8 even though this is better if we remove price from the equation.
Superb video!
Thanks
Whenever I look for a review of products that involve home networking, I look for a channel that's very detailed of every switch, button, and or size comparason aside to other home decorations. Thank you very much for your overview... !
Thanks for the feedback! You're welcome
Awesome review
Thanks!
Can I use the regular GB ports to hook up the satellites? i would like to reserve the 2.5 port on the main router for my PS5......
I haven't tried that but it should work.
Who’s your ISP provider? I’m looking at the Eero Pro 6E. I can’t seem to get over 350mbps on my Fios router or Orbi 752. What do you suggest?
I'm with Frontier FIOS. The Orbi 752 should be able to get faster than that, unless you're next to the Orbi satellite that is connected via wireless backhaul. You're device also needs to be able to support faster speeds. Local speed tests run much faster than internet speed tests as well, just as a heads up.
Can you create a fibre optic connection in a home.....as in everything to the wired
Not sure I follow, in the case of this Orbi. You would connect the router to your ONT and the Orbi would do the rest, you can wire these to each other via ethernet or have them use wireless backhaul.
If the question was a general one, you can get SFP (but you would still need to get ethernet to connect to this mesh system) which is kind of the like the fiber optic equivalent of Ethernet however I don't really see a benefit since you can also get a 10Gbps ethernet with the 10Gbps switch and call it a day.
Hello, quick question please...
Can you please let me know, what's the difference between AX6000 vs AX11000..
I have option of RBK852 and Nighthawk RAX200.
Can you please guide... Which one is best...
That is the speed rating, so AX means it's a WiFi 6 router or mesh. The number portion is a sum of all the speeds from all the bands. So if it's a tri band router, it will be the sum of the fastest wifi speeds each band can handle. There are a lot of details in here which can even cause a "slower speed rating" to actually work faster than a "faster speed rating" since the individual band can actually be faster in one case versus another but let me simplify it and generalize it.
In summary, (not necessarily true all the time) the higher the number, the faster speeds it can handle on wifi assuming you have the need for it and your wifi devices can handle it. But if you only care about internet speeds and not local network speeds and your internet is let's say 100Mbps, you're not going to see much of a difference between AX6000 and AX11000 since AX6000 will most likely be fast enough for what you're trying to do even if you use wireless backhaul.
This might not be the best analogy but think of buying a pickup truck, one can tow 6000 lbs and another can tow 11000 lbs. If you only need to tow 2000 lbs, then you won't notice much of a difference between the two.
It depends how big your place is, the simple answer is, if you have a larger home 1500 sq ft or larger, go with the Orbi otherwise the RAX200 would be fine. The RAX200 can in theory provide faster wifi speeds if you're close to it (assuming your wifi devices can handle those speeds) but the Orbi is also fast (granted not quite as fast) but the Orbi will provide more wifi range.
Do you know if the Satellites have to pass through backhall traffic to the Router or can multiple Satellites communicate through backhall and then to the Router?
I believe they can go through each other before getting to the router but you always want to place the router centrally to maximize speeds on the satellites since they the satellites can have a direct connection.
How is the billing for it? Is it like you need to subscribe to ISP to have internet?
You need ISP for internet access
How do you do a local speed test to check the potential max performance for the router? What software do you use?
OpenSpeedtest , I might make a video about this in the future cause a few people have asked about it. Thanks for asking!
@@landpet thanks!
When testing across the Wi-Fi backhaul what was the distance between the router and satellite?
About 40 to 50ft
Just curious, why with a wired connection to your local server, you only got 1.7-1.8gbps. I would have imagined 6E to give 4.8gbps. Also, with wireless backhaul 6E should get 2.4gbps (limitation on 5ghz connection) any theories why for slow connection? Is it just the natural degradation? I have 5gbps internet available. If these connections are what I can expect then no point paying for the service.
I know that the modem on the pixel 6 pro is a generation behind
Who's your ISP? I need a better upload than what I'm currently getting from mine.
Frontier Fios
what app do you use to test wifi speeds?
Speedtest app for internet. Open speed test server (installed on my computer) for local speed tests. I will do a video on this since many people are asking
If I disabled 6GHZ band, would it perform better than other Wi-Fi6 mesh systems?
Yes it would still perform better than most but with less of an advantage
What is the GB speed you pay for? Is it a 2GB or 3GB service you are paying for? All I see is what you are receiving but not what you pay for?
Just under gigabit speeds for internet. The other speeds are local speed tests
I was excited and wanted to buy one. Looked it up on Amazon and the price is more than a thousand euro. 😭
Yup it’s expensive
I need help. I currently have the Orbi RBK50(wifi5) and in the same room as the router I get about 650mbps and near the satellites I get about 450mbps. My connection is 1gig. Would this give me noteworthy increase
What WiFi device are you using?
Just going off a guess, this should improve your wireless backhaul speeds, so near the satellites, you will have better speeds. However that 650 might be the best your WiFi device can do, if it can do better than you will most likely see an improvement there but it might not be much. I think the bigger improvement will be your satellite speed will improve and your range will improve based on everything that I’ve seen and tested with this Orbi
@@landpet I’m using the iPhone 12 doing the tests
I’m curious what the reliability is of this system. I’ve stayed away from orbi because I’ve read reviews that it randomly drops connection forcing a restart or losing the ability to see other devices on the network. If they have solved that problem I would be interested in this system.
I will most likely do a long term review on this. In the week or so I’ve used it, it’s been fine
@@landpet this is an expensive system. I’m going to subscribe and keep an eye for long term reviews. Maybe 3, 6, and 12 months? Any issues you have along the way I’d love to hear about them. If everything is solid for 3-6 months I may invest in it.
As of couple of days, I have rgb50 which has been great up until recently. My app doesn't see the other two satellites only the router. If I go via the Brower, im.able to the two satellites unlike the app. I started to drop connection and it's because I'm thinking all the other devices are connect to router and may not be able to handle the devices..unless they fix this issue, I won't consider upgrading.
@@landpet have you a reliably update? That’s my biggest worry. I was to upgrade from our AMPLIFI HD which has been very reliable. But the speeds just aren’t anywhere near the 1GB we pay for.
I have the 963, i was a little disappointed until I dropped to using the main router with a single satellite. In most 4 bedroom hse's the 3rd satellite will be an overkill, causing devices like my fold3 and galaxy ultra22 to keep changing their mind on which AP to connect to (causing dropouts) . Netgear do mention distances between APs. My solution is all ethernet back to 10gb switches. It will have been discussed, but im unable to use the higher wifi6 5ghz band, as orbi keeps it for its mesh solution, which on wired is pointless. The solution does not allow for satellites or the main router, the option to weaken the signal on a single AP, instead you have to choose from 100%, 50% and 25% for all. Its a real shame and in hindsight, the asus et12 would have been a better and cheaper option, as would have been just using Access points. We live and learn. 🤗
World's most expensive peace of plastic ...
lol, did you have a bad experience?
Hey man. Thanks for the Great video and review. I just wanna ask if you could used old orbi mesh as a satellite to the new orbi mesh just to expand more coverage? Is it possible?
No problem! Orbi has more restrictions when it comes to various Orbi's working with each other. From what I remember you cannot mix wifi 5 and wifi 6. I'm assuming and I can be wrong here, they would have the same restriction between wifi 6E and wifi 6. eero on the other hand while not as fast are backwards compatible with all of their models according to eero.
You can't use old orb 5i to new orbi 6 or 6e as satellite.
Which mobile apps. U used for testing ❓ Speed Test ⁉️
For local, the open speed test server, for the internet, Speedtest app
@@landpet Thanks
Do you know if this orbi wifi 6E Mesh router system is any good for console gaming?
Should be fine for that
@landpet The IoT segregation is a big selling point that no one seems to be talking about. Thoughts?
I agree, That can be a game changer for some. I don’t go that far into detail since my videos are already kind of long since I go through the various tests and configuration with some explanation. I’m trying to figure out how to make them shorter honestly but it’s difficult since I do have various scenarios
I have a question, the base router and the satellite units have only one 2.5 port. so how do you connect 2 satellites to the base router.
I go through a 10Gbps switch, you can also get a 2.5Gbps switch for much less than a 10Gbps. You would wire it like the following: Modem > Router > switch > to both satellites
@@landpet I thought as much.
Thank you
my question is if your modem is 10gbps it should be plugged to the 10gb port and you will need another 10gb port to connect ot your desktop. if there is only 1 x 10gb port and you have a plan for 2.5 it's fine . but not future proof for 10gb if you have the plan for that.. i think it is waste of $$ if your country don;t even have 2.5 or or 10gb and just want to focus on the wifi 6. the only way i can see it to work is to get a switch which supports 2x 10gb port and you can make use of the netgear orbi. not coming in cheap..
Yup as you mentioned if you have a 10Gbps port on your machine and it's hooked up to a 10Gbps switch which is hooked up to a NAS that supports 10Gbps, then you can also have fast transfers between your PC and NAS but yes it would be nice if they included 2 10Gbps ports especially considering the price but most other wifi's have the same problem as this one, in fact most of the other ones have one multi-gig port and the rest are gigabit.
These things costs an arm, a leg, one of your friend's kidney, your father's truck and one of your child. So yeah.
I'd rather cable up my whole house and use professional grade access points and Microtik. Much safer and I would be able to sell it at a good price too.
They definitely do cost a lot. I do like wired networks cause they can make just about any mesh wifi really good with the exception of range. This is just a really simple way of getting good wifi without much work.
Does this model offer multiple SSID capabilities?
You can separate the 6GHz, but I don't think you can for the 2.4 and 5Ghz, those are combined. Check out the Asus et12 if you want to separate them
@@landpet Thanks. I did purchase the Netgear Orbi RBK852 and then found out it could not separate the SSIDs, I sent it back. I did pick up the Asus ET8 and it seems to work pretty well thus far and has all the tech features I require.
Separation of the SSIDs are not an unusual request from what I see on the support pages of Netgear. I know Linksys does have multiple SSIDs capabilities as well.
@@jojosmith1097 That's a good mesh system as well.
@@landpet Yeah, plus it is 6e although I have very few devices right now to take advantage of it :)
I am a seafarer, can it be used while at sea? I mean it has satellite. Please reply.
The term satellite in this case just means a non router, an extra node that extends coverage from the router. 2 of the 3 units are referred to as satellites. It has no reference to an actual satellite. You would need an ISP for internet access, with an ISP, this mesh would with fine on a boat.
I currently use the google wifi (not the nest) system that operate my rings, all my smart switches , etc. if I were to replace with this orbi will the rings and other devices still work? I read some comments on other videos that I need a dedicated 2.4 to continue operating these devices and the orbi will cause me issues. Any response?
So the Orbi like other mesh wifi's support 2.4GHz. I have a bunch of ring cameras (spotlight, stickup, indoor, floodlight) and the ring alarm and I've had no issues connecting them to any of the mesh wifi's/routers I've tested. This Orbi is no exception, it does have a 2.4GHz band and it will automatically connect your devices to the appropriate band. If you want things to auto connect, you just need to use the same SSID from your Google Wifi on this Orbi and everything will auto connect.
P.S. thank you for specifying not the Nest, granted I had the Nest Wifi and I do know that replaced the Google Wifi.
Here I am trying to justify paying for 1gig internet when in reality I only need 100. Dang you and your awesome tech videos! Lol
I am quite happy with the Asus XT8 and that's coming down in price now (most likely as there's a 6E version also). Even with 920/110 fibre, the backhaul is sufficient but you do only get 80MHz 5GHz (1201Mbps) which might restrict you slightly. I still think on balance that's where the smart money goes (no additional subs) but if you have money to burn, this looks awesome.
@@JonathanMorris777 I've actually considered the XT8. This is plenty of overkill for my house and no 6E devices for some time to come.
@@Jowersman Yep no devices hardly.
This is definitely not a budget friendly solution and very little wifi 6e support. It's just good for future proofing, very good wireless backhaul speeds and very good range and very bad for your wallet
@@landpet We don't seem to have any 6E products in the UK yet (I guess there's some certification issue) but I saw the fact it's $1499 and then they try and sell warranty and extras on top and I figure it really is terrible for the wallet.
I am sure that post CES 2022 we'll see more affordable offerings from others, but I think this offers a level of future proofing that is probably not necessary unless you will benefit from faster networking between local devices. I think gigabit fibre is probably more than most people will buy at home, so few people need to buy something that can cope with 10Gbps. It's a totally different story for businesses of course!
How much longer before you review the Linksys 6E
It’s on back order until Jan 23 but Amazon sometimes delivers it sooner. At the latest early February and much sooner if I get it sooner
@@landpet I ordered the Linksys 6E mesh system it was on sale for $899 at Best Buy haven’t in stalled it yet It was $300 off the regular price so I thought that was a pretty good deal off the top of your head without testing the linksys system do you think the Orbi is a better system what do you think that there’s very little different between the two considering the Orbi is $1499 vs $899 for the linksys wonder if I should’ve waited for the Orbi to come down in the future
@@nathanlocklear453 I just got the Atlas 2 pack (lol this happens sometimes when they give me a far out date and send it way sooner), I'll have the video out in about 2 weeks. Off the top, I think the Orbi will be better in terms of range and probably a bit better over wireless backhaul speeds as well. But is it worth the extra price? Either way I will test the Atlas and see how well it does. $300 off is a good deal!
I tested these and hardware is great but the app is not great. If eero could do this hardware with this app that would be a winner. I wired them with 2.5Gb/s switch.
Browser definitely provides more options compared to the app. Glad to hear you noticed the great hardware as well
@@landpet don’t remember you mentioning it but the mobile app knows nothing about 6GHz and I had to enable on the browser. Doesn’t come enabled by default.
@@metsfaninct Yup, it needs to be done from the browser. I just showed it in the video at 14:15 without specifically saying you can only do this on the browser.
Does this work with the AT&T Fiber bgw320?
Yes, it would be good to set the bgw320 in bridge mode so you can disable the WiFi router so that the Orbi can be the main router or you can run the Orbi in access point mode which will expand the current WiFi coverage. I recommend disabling the router portion of the bgw320 if possible
Big, ugly, looking things too! Great review as usual.
Thanks!
is the mesh compatible with a nighthawk axe11000?
The only way you can connect it is if you run the Orbi in access point mode with the nighthawk being your main router at least as of now.
@@landpet This works, but I feel the orbi is a better buy at this moment since it has 2 ports over 1G right now. The main point is to have a full wired backhaul. But 2.5G as a home network should be quite good for now. Would be nice to have it all on the 10G internally and the 2.5G for the WAN connection.
From a network engineer and wireless specialist in enterprise networks you should not think that range is speed. More range less speed, limit the power and minimum data rates to 18 or 24Mb to reduce cell size. I don't think these units will let you control them that much. I would limit the power to where you have -67 RSSI from AP and Client side or SNR of 25+ so you can have cell boundaries defined.
I live in SF so so many people around us blasting some terrible programming like 2.4Ghz on channel 4 or 9, yes I'm looking at you xfinity ISP, your devices are terrible and ruin signals. - NetworkNickOfficial Ill make some videos if someone sends me some units.
Thanks for the video Landpet!
Thanks for your input
So what do you use at home yourself?
Would you recommend this wifi 6e set? Or is it all bloat marketing?
If your isp speed is 940 download, how did you get close to 1800 on your pixel? lol Am I missing something?
I did an ISP speed test first but the rest of the tests are local area speed tests so I can find the true potential of this mesh. I do this since there are people with faster internets, I don't want to cap my results otherwise it wouldn't be accurate.
my internet provider is only 1gb is it worth it to buy this.
i'm having a lot of dead zones in the house even if i'm next room to the router i don't get much signal.
this would be the main reason of buying this.
would appreciate some advice guys.
thank you.
Having dead zone issues also. I think it is worth it to upgrade to the overkill since they'll be coming out with faster home speeds any day now all over the country. Future proof hopefully.
@@theoptimalspark8198 I'm in the UK and for 1g speed is at £70 a month!! Which is ridiculous in my opinion 😅
And now I'm about yo buy this at £1500
Just wanted to see if it's worth that much money
There are cheaper options that should do a pretty good job, however this particular one is amazing. If this doesn't work for you, I don't think you'll have much luck with others.
@@landpet so you think its worth the money?
@@AR-fq7zu That's a tough question to answer, it is amazing and does work extremely well, wired or wireless. ASUS ET12 also works very well and it costs much less (granted that covers less area since it's a 2 pack vs the 3 pack Orbi). Looking into the future, I do see better routers coming out for less. As of now, it probably is worth the money.
how many satellites can you expand to?
I'm not sure, it will start to degrade the more you add. The general number for mesh wifis is no more than 5
@@landpet thanks for the info 🙏
just an fyi you cant add tri band satellites to this system
Which model?
I had very high hopes for the Netgear RBKE963 that I purchased on 1/15/2022.
Performance was very strong in the beginning, till 3-4 month later. It's very
good when everything works, but good luck when you lose power even when I have
a APC UPS. The power grid in the south - Atlanta isn't the best, honestly. I
called tech support immediately when after multiple reboots on the Orbi app
and manual reboots. Some of the IoT devices and wifi laptops refuse to connect.
Laptops would display connected, but No Internet, secured. Frustrating as hell!
Tech support ticket was opened on 4/3 and several debug logs uploaded and as of
4/26 no response and a solution. I can't imagine anyone paying for support
when they drag it to 3-4 weeks for a response or a solution. I needed to work
and I'm a network engineer myself. I immediately pulled it out of my network rack
and put my trusty ubiquiti unifi controller and ap's. sorry, netgear your $1500
ap is highway robbery honestly and your orbi app is terrible with no fix even with
10-15 reboots. Not sure if its the security armor or the cloud anywhere access is
causing the problems. I'm giving up on this $1500 paper weight for now.
Well that sucks, I haven't had issues but I've been using other mesh wifi's in the mean time.
How many different places have you copied and pasted this comment/review?
Why are these routers so large?
Pretty powerful with larger antennas inside
Sell your first born? See you later Fletcher. Been nice knowing you and we had a good run but dad needs fast wi-fi.
Lol
@@landpet Thanks for the videos. I recently came across your channel. Very informative and unbiased reviews. I really appreciate your work. 👍
dual wan?
single I believe
essentially....essentially....essentially....essentially
It used to be basically, I’m improving :)
nice
Thanks
I bet these are expensive?
I think you need to sell your home to get one, then you wouldn't need it anymore...
You have to sacrifice one of your children. So kinda sorta.
Lol, yeah they are expensive
nether has a bad habit if you update the firmware on any nether router your brick them or make them crash I gave up on netgear in 2003
This has been good so far but I have heard that on older Orbis
Asus has too
Yeah the Asus ET8, I've reviewed that as well. After I finish the Linksys atlas wifi 6E video. I'll do a comparison between the three wifi 6e mesh wifis
@@landpet Just saw your Asus ET8. Great review. Can wait for Linksys Atlas
Stingy NASA took all the bandwidth
Wait… why is the backhaul 5 GHz? Wouldn’t a dedicated 6 GHz system for wireless backhaul be better? Did they do 5 GHz to be backwards compatible with their older mesh products? If so, who is buying a $1,500 mesh system and not replacing their existing infrastructure? Then again, by that logic, who is using wireless backhaul if they can afford this system? Was it for better range? Or just to keep the 6 GHz airways as clear as possible for people speed testing the latest devices?
Wait.. who is this system for, again? Is this system designed for stupid early adopters who aren’t thinking this through? I’m confused.
5 GHz does have a longer range than 6GHz. I imagine that's the reason they went with that as the dedicated wireless backhaul. Since this is advertised for up to a 9000 sq ft house., 5 GHz would do better than 6GHz from that perspective.
@@landpet ;
This and also for the reason that Orbi uses a fully "dedicated" backhaul wireless link that WiFi clients are never allowed to connect to.
So if they chose the 6 Ghz band for the dedicated wireless backhaul then no wireless 6E clients (such as the Samsung s21 ultra or Goggle Pixel 6 Pro smartphones in the video) could ever access the 6 Ghz band!
Therefore Orbi could only select one of the two 5 Ghz sub-bands. The "5 Ghz - 2" band (or WiFi chs. 149 to 161). Leaving the other sub-band "5 Ghz - 1" (or WiFi chs. 36 to 48) exclusively for clients to connect to on the 5 Ghz band.
So for the clients the WiFi bands available on the Orbi here are ....
2.4 Ghz
5 Ghz-1
6 Ghz
This scheme though leads to somewhat of a disadvantage in the wireless mesh setup. Since the greater speed of clients connecting to a satellite on the 6 Ghz band at 160 Mhz bandwidth. Is partly nullified by the use of only an 80 Mhz max. bandwidth limitation of the backhaul channel on the 5 Ghz band.
Oebi is the worst router I have ever had. Their app has bugs and they never fix the IOT devices issues. Go with Unifi, Asus, or anything else but them. Mesh sucks for roaming.
Thanks for your input
$1500 HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Yup, it’s expensive
This wasn't made for the likes of you.
@@DC-2000 "the likes of me" being people who aren't stupid.
The average person has no need for this.
agreed
This is a shit device with poor software and networking features. If are looking to do anything more than internet access this isnt the device. The static routing on this device does not work.