Sainath ji 1. BRILLIANT rebuttal of every point against farmers - every accusation by govt supporters. 2. Brilliant placing of this agitation in the context of ALL of us...our fundamental rights. And why we ALL must support our farmers. 3. You have presented FACTS not emotional / ideological arguments and smokescreens. THANK you. Thank you Faye.
@@ManjunathKamathKochi well dint she say we the people and not animals .... stay out people that don't respect the farmers that feed us must be surely surviving on dung
@@raffatshaikh6335 Animals too are respected in the Indic culture, almost at par with human beings, so not much wrong being one. Don't know what culture you belong. By the way, what do you out of your respect for farmers apart from sloganeering? anything substantive? Do you actually respect the farmers or this your some part of your agenda? You know what I mean? seeing the way you pounced on a harmless comment?
Faye... I have been following all your videos on this issue. How can people still label these protests as propaganda agitations. Mr. Sainath has well briefed how successive govts have failed to implement Dr. Swaminathan 's package for the agricultural sector. Lets not forget Bapu's words " India's soul lies in its villages ". The pandemic has really confined our spaces but our spirit, support and prayers are with the thousands of farmers fighting all odds to claim their rights. Our nation is not pawned to any goddamn party or crony capitalists.
Ignore the Covid horror stories and watch Faye Dsouza's channel. Her words and stand for the protesting farmers🌾 are a true gift💝 to this troubled world.
What was the need of this act during an epidemic? What was it passed without any discussion with stakeholders? Why the ordinance even when the parliament was in session? Why was it passed by Voice vote in the Rajya sabha? What good will the decriminalizing of hoarding do? And why can't a farmer go to judiciary in case if a conflict?? Questions like these have not been answered by the govt. All this suggest some malicious intention of the govt..it seems the govt is giving dividends to the corporates that gave heavy money to BJP through electoral bonds..
When we saw what decisions this government had made previously and it's impact on the people, why were they voted into power to make more such decisions,?
There is a fine line that lies between autocracy and democracy. It is issues like the current face off between govt. and the people on farm laws that brings it into sharp focus.
Thank you so much to both of you sir and madam for such an engaging debate around our farmers and their issues. India needs such kind of debates to know more about the plight of farmers in India.
@@macv8507 he does not have ground experience. मेरा खेत का मक्का खरीदेगा क्या गुलाटी एमएसपी में. South East एमपी में हालात देखो 900 रुपये क्विंटल बेचे हैं इस साल क्या गुलाटी खरीदेगा?
@@macv8507 haven't you read P Sainath's book "Everybody Loves a Good Draught"? See the amount of ground report he has done right from the epicenter of the happenings. He is truly amazing.
Faye, Thank You so much for Keeping Good Journalism alive. Your last two conversations with P. Sainath Sir has brought so much clarity on not just the Farm Bills but on the plight of the Indian Agriculture & Farmer through examples/case studies across India.
That's the problem. She talks only with people with leftist agenda who doesn't want Indian farmers to grow. This fake protest is bereft of any real issue.
@@gargeebasak9648 if Faye have guts to call likes of Ananth Ranganathan or Abhijit Iyer mitra, I would have respected her more. Unfortunately, it looks like only non farmer yogendra yadav knows more of farmers issue.
Kudos to you Faye and Mr Sainath for discussing and explaining so simply and humanely the grave crisis that our farmers faced with. As always these are complex socio economic issues at play and while there maybe 2 sides to every argument.. what's most troubling as you have rightly highlighted the absence of humanity and respect to our very own whose crime is to shine spotlight on their plight!!!.
All people who are commenting here should watch counter view by Ashok Gulati on The Print and then decide. Socialism hasn't worked for any nation in the world and after 70 years of failure under socialism in this country, it's about time we undergo the reform.
Plz mam make him go on a wider platform ,, people need to know this ,,,many channels on TH-cam nd mainstream media even r misleading people about the real issues ,,,they need to know about this ,,plz search for a means to have wider approach 🙏
And govt said farmers are mislead. Why won't they be when the govt has ridden rough shod over everyone to push the bills. No farmers were consulted, no discussions. Check out the frenzy played out in Parliament and shown by many channels!
Thank you for bringing Mr P Sainath's views on this burning issue. I completely agree with you that he is perhaps the most apt journalist for rural issues. Your unbiased journalistic style is a rarity for the present. More power to you and our farmers.
You and Dr Sainath are absolutely correct. This proves how Karl Marx is right in his philosophy and the thanks bjp to help in bringing social changes for which we are fighting for. Its nothing other than death bell of capitalism and dream of socialism comes true. Thank you Faye for this valueable piece of interview to written in the history .
Faye your karnataka government minister says that farmer's who commit suicide are cowards. First ask the minister meaning of coward and then ask that minister speak about farm loans
Thamizh naadu farmers led by Ayyaakkannu - from the same group that protested/humiliated themselves in delhi an year or so ago but no union min bothered to meet them - bought train tickets for delhi to join the protest. but the TN police - thru the railways ofc - got wind of this and put them all under house arrest - some 300 of them tickets waste.
This is known as article “work done in good faith.” It is in Railway Act , Metro Act, but any other person is who? Ambani and Adani ? But this clause is not justified in this law.
Govt or bjp promise covid vaccine to every persons in bihar (first promise in manifesto !!) but now icmr says no it would not be for all. And one says trust words of ministers on MSP or Fair free market? And if so then why farmers of bihar are poorest in india despite no mandi.
Point of MSP and inadequacy of APMC / farmer is addressed by having a contract pricing on farm produce based on price, quality benchmarks before sowing with the farmer. Upon harvesting, farmer gets payment within 3 days. Time period of contract is 1 season to 5 years depending upon farmer's comfort with the agreement. What's the problem with this arrangement, especially in light of points on hoarding, pricing of farm produce, besides arm twisting of farmers over the years. Either the farmer is and has been in problems for last many decades or are we creating problems by above measure??? Swaminathan recommendation of guranteeing MSP is just not doable, considering that gross tax collection of our country is almost equal to MSP subsidy.
Faye, I have great respect for you...you r having guests only how r opposing the bill and leftist....If you have guts bring someone who welcomes this law and discuss...We people will understand the pros and cons from both end.....Show real journalism...
There's a totally different way of taking matters into their hands for the farmers in my humble opinion. The farmers should move away from cash crops dependent on fertilizers and pesticides and move to Organic subsistence farming and sell their produce directly to the consumers through farmer cooperatives.
It's a good thought but impractical. The issues of logistics, availability, transportation asre all standing in way. It will all take a long time to duplicate the processes already in place. And I say this as somebody who would very much like to see this happen.
Punjab Haryana etc. before green revolution were multi crop producing states in organic way. But India needed Rice and grains so government pushed these states to get away from organic and diverse cultivation to the current one. They being emotional did everything they could to feed the nation. Now they are being targeted by the government. We want to grow diverse and organic food but not everyone is capable of creating a new market which will benefit them. Market government is trying to give is biased against farmers and in favour or corporate sector. Government is playing most irresponsible, immature and partial role here.
If those clauses violate fundamental rights, it should be challenged in a court and I am sure a constitutional bench of the SC will ask for it to be removed! If the GOI representatives are smart, they will consider rephrasing the clause. That should not hold up removing the monopoly of the APMCs!
During the Hitler era, there was a massive change in Germany. There was a super upper class of individuals created that were highly positioned in industry and politics. The middle class were virtually crippled economically, so that they became almost powerless to run their lives. They were offered more dependency on the state in lieu of handouts, to overcome the very economic hardships that were created by the state. Their trade freedoms were taken away, to be replaced by handouts from the state. A totalitarian police state was implemented to ensure that these changes would be of a permanent nature. Once the controls were fully in place, the economic handouts were slowly removed. Upon making the state subjects fully dependent on the state, their power to oppose the state was severely curtailed. This transformation was sold to the state subjects by the Nazis as a benefit, rather than an enslavement.
We have another strike/agitation that’s not yet making the news-The Toyota Workers/Employees Strike at their Bidadi-Karnataka plant. Can you please highlight their plight.
Shekar Gupta of Print doesn't explain the farmers bill as draconian. He offers a different view all together. One of the problem is the produce of grains by farmers far exceeds the needs of the consumer. To deal with the problem the farmers need to produce raw materials for edible oil which India is importing. Mr.Sainath has not addressed those glitches. Faye please help clarify those points. Thanks
How can they write such stupid rules and it get passed by our parliament and suprising to see President sign it and making it law . Courts are simply staring , Court is interested to pick up Tharnab case
Answer is very simple, even if they intend to, after understanding the laws, the scamgress and tukde tukde gang people are not allowing them to to do so as they have taken over the strike and the few farmers sitting over there are helpless!!!
Sainath ji 1. BRILLIANT rebuttal of every point against farmers - every accusation by govt supporters. 2. Brilliant placing of this agitation in the context of ALL of us...our fundamental rights. And why we ALL must support our farmers. 3. You have presented FACTS not emotional / ideological arguments and smokescreens. THANK you. Thank you Faye.
Such an excellent honest analysis about the present crisis. Faye asked relevant questions and Sainath replied patiently and so clearly. Well done guys
We, the People of India, are with the farmers.
Just speak for yourself
@@ManjunathKamathKochi well dint she say we the people and not animals .... stay out people that don't respect the farmers that feed us must be surely surviving on dung
@@raffatshaikh6335 Animals too are respected in the Indic culture, almost at par with human beings, so not much wrong being one. Don't know what culture you belong.
By the way, what do you out of your respect for farmers apart from sloganeering? anything substantive? Do you actually respect the farmers or this your some part of your agenda? You know what I mean? seeing the way you pounced on a harmless comment?
Faye..all powers to you...getting this perspective is gold in today's media
Thanks Faye.for discussing plight of our farmers
Amazing clarity of thought, Mr. Sainath. Excellent discussion, Faye and team. Loved the conversation.🌼🌸
I should add...really sad to hear of the extent of suffering of our "anna-daatas."
Faye... I have been following all your videos on this issue. How can people still label these protests as propaganda agitations. Mr. Sainath has well briefed how successive govts have failed to implement Dr. Swaminathan 's package for the agricultural sector. Lets not forget Bapu's words " India's soul lies in its villages ". The pandemic has really confined our spaces but our spirit, support and prayers are with the thousands of farmers fighting all odds to claim their rights. Our nation is not pawned to any goddamn party or crony capitalists.
Ignore the Covid horror stories and watch Faye Dsouza's channel. Her words and stand for the protesting farmers🌾 are a true gift💝 to this troubled world.
Appreciate your efforts Faye.....and hats off to Mr. Sainath for clarifying every bit details......we are with our farmers....
Great interview ... God bless people like P. Sainath 🙏q
What was the need of this act during an epidemic? What was it passed without any discussion with stakeholders? Why the ordinance even when the parliament was in session? Why was it passed by Voice vote in the Rajya sabha? What good will the decriminalizing of hoarding do? And why can't a farmer go to judiciary in case if a conflict??
Questions like these have not been answered by the govt. All this suggest some malicious intention of the govt..it seems the govt is giving dividends to the corporates that gave heavy money to BJP through electoral bonds..
Exactly, totally unnecessary during this pandemic.
Never let a crisis go to waste!
This is how reforms are done in India.
When we saw what decisions this government had made previously and it's impact on the people, why were they voted into power to make more such decisions,?
*Let's support our farmers ... Remember, without them we won't exist!*
There is a fine line that lies between autocracy and democracy. It is issues like the current face off between govt. and the people on farm laws that brings it into sharp focus.
Wonderful journalist, excellent show, Faye you rock💯😇
This is a great show! People get insight into the life of farmers. We all only have our own perceptions.
Thank you so much to both of you sir and madam for such an engaging debate around our farmers and their issues. India needs such kind of debates to know more about the plight of farmers in India.
Mr Sainath thanks for detailed analysis
Thanks for having enlightening session with credible and deep knowledgeable journalist
Thank you P Sainath Sir !!
Thank you Mr. Sainath! And gratitude to Faye!
Sainath is the most apt person to speak on this issue
Ashok gulati has more experience than him
@@macv8507 he does not have ground experience.
मेरा खेत का मक्का खरीदेगा क्या गुलाटी एमएसपी में.
South East एमपी में हालात देखो
900 रुपये क्विंटल बेचे हैं इस साल क्या गुलाटी खरीदेगा?
@@macv8507 मक्के के आटे का रेट देखना प्रति किलो कितना है?
@@macv8507 haven't you read P Sainath's book "Everybody Loves a Good Draught"?
See the amount of ground report he has done right from the epicenter of the happenings.
He is truly amazing.
@@adithyasandeep6352 🤣🤣🤣
Faye, Thank You so much for Keeping Good Journalism alive. Your last two conversations with P. Sainath Sir has brought so much clarity on not just the Farm Bills but on the plight of the Indian Agriculture & Farmer through examples/case studies across India.
When Faye Ma'am talks to the people like Yogendra Yadav Sir and P Sainath Sir... You can listen for hours without getting tired.
And then you call others andh bhakts.
Lol.
That's the problem. She talks only with people with leftist agenda who doesn't want Indian farmers to grow. This fake protest is bereft of any real issue.
@@abypixel1571 yes nd u know more that the farmers that these ordinances r addressed to. Delusional much?
@@gargeebasak9648 if Faye have guts to call likes of Ananth Ranganathan or Abhijit Iyer mitra, I would have respected her more. Unfortunately, it looks like only non farmer yogendra yadav knows more of farmers issue.
Hats off to you. Excellent discussion.
If the corporate media is getting the sense of grievance they are not displaying it intentionally for obvious reason.
Why not have Mr. P Sainath as a negotiator between the two warring parties and arrive at a consensus on this issue.
Ashok Gulati and yogendra ji would be better
@@madhavjoshi6993 just Mr. Gulati. Everybody else is a closet commie
Very well explained farmers plight. Great job.
Why can't v make corporation to federation... Milk federation are doing good.... State govt supporting the federation
Very well chosen guest who is not only passionate about this issue but also very knowledgeable.
Love your journalism Faye! Can you please hold a discussion on the changes in the labour laws?
United we stand, divided we fall. Our support Is with our farmers. They are our food providers. May they win.
Kudos to you Faye and Mr Sainath for discussing and explaining so simply and humanely the grave crisis that our farmers faced with. As always these are complex socio economic issues at play and while there maybe 2 sides to every argument.. what's most troubling as you have rightly highlighted the absence of humanity and respect to our very own whose crime is to shine spotlight on their plight!!!.
Faye it's such a pleasure to listen to Dr Sainath 😇🙂👍
All people who are commenting here should watch counter view by Ashok Gulati on The Print and then decide. Socialism hasn't worked for any nation in the world and after 70 years of failure under socialism in this country, it's about time we undergo the reform.
Awesome discussion ..brings in more clarity ..Thank you Faye
Simple questions very beautifully put, n exceptionally clear answers, keep up the good work.
Such an amazing man. Hats off sir
Fantastic to hear Sainath hold forth. Thanks Faye! Would love to know if there is anyway we can contribute to costs of the langar, and their expenses
Bhai, just contact any nearby Gurudwara, they should be able to guide you. Best wishes from Punjab from a fellow Indian.
Thanks Faye and Sanath for these conversations!
Mr.Sainath is amazing, well explained and analysed
This is so insightful. Farmers feed everyone and love us. Jai Kisan!
The story narrated by P Sainath Ji towards the end was indeed very very touching!
Faye ma'am god bless you n your family.we need a person like you in this country
Hey Faye, this is a clg teenager who only gets only sundays as leisure time and I'm proud to say I invested my time today on this discussion.
Well Done! Ojaswi Gupta for choosing well at a young age. It’s great to see your interest in understanding current affairs. Good Luck!
Awesome stuff !!!
Kudos to the crew !!!
Keep up the good work.
Keep it up Faye and thank u for this information
Was waiting for Mr Sainath's interview. Bang on!!
Thanks Faye!
"Farmers were feeding the hands that beat them and police were biting the hands that fed them" None can say it better than P Sainath
Appreciate your efforts Faye
Faye, you are my hero. Great Work.
WHY the facination of sending children OVERSEAS to study. Get involved in improving local standards.
Discussion was really an eye opener.
We are with our ANNADATA
Brilliant conversation 👍🏽
I support our farmers
Plz mam make him go on a wider platform ,, people need to know this ,,,many channels on TH-cam nd mainstream media even r misleading people about the real issues ,,,they need to know about this ,,plz search for a means to have wider approach 🙏
Quite informative and unbiased.. Thanks Faye🙂
Thanks for doing this video ❤️
Shared to 4 of my friends(100 members) group to subscribe to this channel
Awesome
This bill must be withdrawn becoz it’s passed in hurry without any real consultation with farmers !
And govt said farmers are mislead. Why won't they be when the govt has ridden rough shod over everyone to push the bills. No farmers were consulted, no discussions. Check out the frenzy played out in Parliament and shown by many channels!
Thank you for bringing Mr P Sainath's views on this burning issue. I completely agree with you that he is perhaps the most apt journalist for rural issues. Your unbiased journalistic style is a rarity for the present. More power to you and our farmers.
You and Dr Sainath are absolutely correct. This proves how Karl Marx is right in his philosophy and the thanks bjp to help in bringing social changes for which we are fighting for. Its nothing other than death bell of capitalism and dream of socialism comes true. Thank you Faye for this valueable piece of interview to written in the history .
Faye your karnataka government minister says that farmer's who commit suicide are cowards. First ask the minister meaning of coward and then ask that minister speak about farm loans
This is a topic for me another day
@@hela6208 it is relevant today
Thamizh naadu farmers led by Ayyaakkannu - from the same group that protested/humiliated themselves in delhi an year or so ago but no union min bothered to meet them - bought train tickets for delhi to join the protest. but the TN police - thru the railways ofc - got wind of this and put them all under house arrest - some 300 of them tickets waste.
DISSENT is a crime in our democracy. All those who do not have the pro BJP view or are not pro modi are deemed antinational
This BJP government is not for the the people.
Ask Mr. Anirudh to read about agriculture system across the country. Ask him which country is having 100% free market i
We are with farmers
Wonderful interview
Very nice interview ..
..
This is known as article “work done in good faith.” It is in Railway Act , Metro Act, but any other person is who? Ambani and Adani ? But this clause is not justified in this law.
Jai Jawan Jai Taxpayers!
Let Market Forces: Demand & Supply determine Commodity Prices. Socialism need to be Phased out. Govt has limited resources.
Glad to see at least some smart people in a comment section filled with Socialists.
Cheers!
Govt or bjp promise covid vaccine to every persons in bihar (first promise in manifesto !!) but now icmr says no it would not be for all. And one says trust words of ministers on MSP or Fair free market? And if so then why farmers of bihar are poorest in india despite no mandi.
This is the best interview
amazing explanation of costs of production!
Bring gulati & sainath in a debate, it will make general public more aware .
Gulati is a ambani tout.
I think that is the best , we can get both the views.
th-cam.com/video/Rtuzfw9YZSg/w-d-xo.html - not face to face though!
Faye, you should use a nice mic, rather computer mic. Your voice has constant fluctuations.
Point of MSP and inadequacy of APMC / farmer is addressed by having a contract pricing on farm produce based on price, quality benchmarks before sowing with the farmer. Upon harvesting, farmer gets payment within 3 days. Time period of contract is 1 season to 5 years depending upon farmer's comfort with the agreement. What's the problem with this arrangement, especially in light of points on hoarding, pricing of farm produce, besides arm twisting of farmers over the years.
Either the farmer is and has been in problems for last many decades or are we creating problems by above measure???
Swaminathan recommendation of guranteeing MSP is just not doable, considering that gross tax collection of our country is almost equal to MSP subsidy.
I'm following him from long time, he's congress supporter..
How come the ache din govt neglect farmers....very sad
This government thinks it knows all
We are with the farmers... numbers of the farmers suicides is devastating. Thank you both of you..
As psychologist would like to do my bit
Faye, I have great respect for you...you r having guests only how r opposing the bill and leftist....If you have guts bring someone who welcomes this law and discuss...We people will understand the pros and cons from both end.....Show real journalism...
Govt should go with the reforms ........... Aaj agar koi reforms ni aaya agriculture par to aage v fir kabhi ni ban payega
There's a totally different way of taking matters into their hands for the farmers in my humble opinion. The farmers should move away from cash crops dependent on fertilizers and pesticides and move to Organic subsistence farming and sell their produce directly to the consumers through farmer cooperatives.
It's a good thought but impractical. The issues of logistics, availability, transportation asre all standing in way. It will all take a long time to duplicate the processes already in place. And I say this as somebody who would very much like to see this happen.
Punjab Haryana etc. before green revolution were multi crop producing states in organic way. But India needed Rice and grains so government pushed these states to get away from organic and diverse cultivation to the current one. They being emotional did everything they could to feed the nation. Now they are being targeted by the government. We want to grow diverse and organic food but not everyone is capable of creating a new market which will benefit them. Market government is trying to give is biased against farmers and in favour or corporate sector. Government is playing most irresponsible, immature and partial role here.
People, please listen to non partisan experts like Sainath.
If those clauses violate fundamental rights, it should be challenged in a court and I am sure a constitutional bench of the SC will ask for it to be removed! If the GOI representatives are smart, they will consider rephrasing the clause. That should not hold up removing the monopoly of the APMCs!
28:30 , agree with him.. Govt is not trying to provide effective and sustainable solution to this problem.
But what if the govt announces a lower MSP ?
As Supreme Court would be hearing the case. Do you think Supreme Court is going to favour the farmers.
Most self respected people are farmers..
Kuch bhi
During the Hitler era, there was a massive change in Germany.
There was a super upper class of individuals created that were highly positioned in industry and politics.
The middle class were virtually crippled economically, so that they became almost powerless to run their lives.
They were offered more dependency on the state in lieu of handouts, to overcome the very economic hardships that were created by the state.
Their trade freedoms were taken away, to be replaced by handouts from the state.
A totalitarian police state was implemented to ensure that these changes would be of a permanent nature.
Once the controls were fully in place, the economic handouts were slowly removed.
Upon making the state subjects fully dependent on the state, their power to oppose the state was severely curtailed.
This transformation was sold to the state subjects by the Nazis as a benefit, rather than an enslavement.
Today is the problem is that we have excess and from here we have to move on the need basis
We have another strike/agitation that’s not yet making the news-The Toyota Workers/Employees Strike at their Bidadi-Karnataka plant. Can you please highlight their plight.
Shekar Gupta of Print doesn't explain the farmers bill as draconian. He offers a different view all together. One of the problem is the produce of grains by farmers far exceeds the needs of the consumer. To deal with the problem the farmers need to produce raw materials for edible oil which India is importing. Mr.Sainath has not addressed those glitches. Faye please help clarify those points. Thanks
How can they write such stupid rules and it get passed by our parliament and suprising to see President sign it and making it law . Courts are simply staring , Court is interested to pick up Tharnab case
Mam please tweet for #Farmer protest against farmer please only one tweet par day... Plz🙏🙏🙏
Answer is very simple, even if they intend to, after understanding the laws, the scamgress and tukde tukde gang people are not allowing them to to do so as they have taken over the strike and the few farmers sitting over there are helpless!!!
Urban Naxalite mindset..... , the legal provision is mention is by default part of any Indian law, Check CPC etc.
Can't city dwellers be willing to absorb at least part of the price hike for commodities if it would help the farmers who are less priveliged
why was swaminathan's commission kept aside without discussion for solong