Too add onto the groups proposal to implement point restrictions on the single tag was to create a better buck age structure across the U.P. One year old buck harvest is 30-50% of the buck harvest every year in the U.P.. we have what we have today largely because of that. Its even more eye opening when we are having those harvest numbers following the severe winters, greatly adding the additional stress onto every other age class of bucks.
I have bow hunted southern schoolcraft since 94. The herd has collapsed there in the last 10 years. I have not seen an 8 pt. In 5 years. We need educated decision with this problem.
Love the show And all the commentary. Love the upper peninsula. I've deer hunted up there since 1981 and I now own property in central Dickinson County! Again, thank you for the fine programming but for an older guy I'm sure I'm not the only one. We are very confused. We used to Google 906 outdoors on TH-cam cuz we don't get it down here on these stations in Southwest Michigan and then it was discovering and now the podcast is discovering Michigan, some of the videos appear to say discovering, but the one I remember is 906 outdoors is because of the area code, so could you clear up the confusion? Are there two different programs or three different programs or just what I think you might be losing market share by confusing us old people! God bless and thanks for reading all of this! Anyone that gets to live up there is truly blessed!
Hi! Thanks for asking. It is confusing. The TV program “Discovering” is owned by WLUCTV6 here in the U.P. I am the newest contract producer of the show but since they technically own the name I created the TH-cam channel “Discover the UP” so I can share the show online. I started the podcast to coincide with the show so I can share the full interviews, because I feel so much good information is missed or not said because I only have 18 minutes of showtime. Brian of 906 Outdoors was the prior producer of the “Discovering” program from 2012-2022 and he began uploading the show to his TH-cam channel back when he started and so the names became intertwined. I worked with Brian for 3 years until he passed the “Discovering” program on to me. In 2020 Brian started taking his “Discovering” reruns and syndicated the “906 Outdoors” show in other tv markets. Which I plan to do at some point as well to further confuse everyone! ;)
Thank you for the reply. It makes more sense now. I know I tried googling discover discovering discovering Michigan's up and I came up with a bunch of different results that didn't always lead to your show on internet searches! But it looks like your local PBS channel calls it discovering, so it's most important for your local people up there! If it were me being a marketing guy and working on keywords for the company I work for I would title any program associated with it 906 outdoors because it is so specific that anyone could find it anywhere, but it's probably just my opinion! Anyway, I have a better understanding now. This technology is wonderful cuz you can get what you want anywhere in North America on your phone or your TV! It's ever changing so an old person like me gets frustrated. I used to get Google podcasts and now they're all on TH-cam so I'm trying to figure out how to download those. Amazon music is messed up. My phone is overloaded and then they got TH-cam videos playing in the background when all I want to do is listen to a podcast. So it's wonderful. But like everything else it has too many options! Anyway, thanks again for the great programming. I myself have my own opinions about the deer hunting in the Upper Peninsula! I believe that a majority of the Upper Peninsula should just be a one. Buck tag like it used to be when I started hunting up there. No doe permits except a said few in the banana belt, low snowfall zone! Where I used to hunt Northeast of Ralph Michigan. The hunting was never fantastic but it was pretty good at one time. I remember going by the Higgins camp off the Tower road and the Ralph road and on their buck pole in the late '80s and early '90s and seeing a bunch of does and thinking we are going to be in trouble And between the antlerless permits and the predators And some bad Winters like the winter of 95 It certainly is. I think that qdm shouldn't even be a topic in the upper peninsula except voluntarily on private ground. My Camp is in central Dickinson County and the deer er population is pretty good there. And yes, there needs to be way more bear permits. I think a lot of the initiatives that the special group in the Upper Peninsula brought forward where ridiculous and I'm not surprised that most of them got rejected! Just my opinion. Love this great old state and love the upper peninsula. Thanks again for all the great programming. I'm going to listen to the podcast!
As a northern Wisconsin deer hunter, I really feel for you in the UP. Such an unbelievably beautiful place full of deep deer hunting traditions that are being ruined by incompetent management. Sure doesn’t seem fair.
I am listening and I respectfully disagree about the antlerless permits. In the last 10 years our group has hunted in Iron County, four different places Dickinson County. Three different places gogebic County once And how a rifle camp in Alger county. Alger was the worst for not seeing any deer and so was Northern Dickinson County Iron County was not much better. There is not enough deer to worry about the number of does except for the banana belt, low snowfall zone!
I was on the DMI team with Jordan. I have land in Marquette county but spend most of the seasons in Dickinson county. I recommended reducing the quotas to ZERO for DMU 351 & 352, but allow doe with a bow U.P. wide. The bow harvest would have been minimal, like it was prior to the doe with bow ban a decade ago. You will see more wolf sign than deer sign in many of those places
With the sort of decisions the nrc makes on deer, who do you feel the nrc is listening too or is being influenced by?Also did the dmi members ever hear who the top 10 stake holders are when it comes to deer?@@Ufishinfeathiesp
THIS is the group of people that needs to be the NRC... NOT just a few bureaucrats that know nothing about the wildlife, let alone the people that want the correct approach to management being based on facts and science, not feelings and options.
You need to ask yourself, Who is paying the people in Lansing under the table to completely ignore the hardworking people in The Upper Peninsula of Michigan??? If you figure that out, and expose this problem. You might be able to save the deer herd in the U.P.. If it stays on the same track, there won't be any reason to want to go deer hunting in the U.P. ever again. You may scoff at that statement, but the U.P. is very close to the finish line on that one.
We have tons of wolves in northern Iron county, it has been a great thing. never had a more balanced buck/doe ratio in the last 125 years that my family has lived and hunted in the UP. Also could not agree more with Jordan, get rid of APRs and go back to 1 buck tag only, the resource and sex ratio tanked once more than 1 buck was allowed to be taken.
So sad what has happened to the deer herd in the UP. I used to go up bow hunting with a very good friend of mine and his son around Halloween 22 years ago in Dickinson county. Deer hunting was a blast, we saw deer of both sexes hunting private and commercial forest land. We stopped going up there maybe 8 years ago, only deer I saw was maybe a 4 point I grunted in over 9 days of hunting. The NRC does nothing on science, apr’s don’t work in the UP, don’t need 2 Buck tags statewide, closing the coyote was a mistake, how about increasing the bear harvest like Richard P Smith suggested, since the DNR hands are tied on the evil wolf population. When hunters are not happy with deer herds in their traditional areas they move to other areas or states or quit hunting all together. The trust is gone with the DNR and the NRC.
Been hunting the U.P. since 79. Have land in Southern Marquette County. The deer herd has tanked from what it was and its disappointing to say it lightly. What is common sense to virtually all sportsman seems to elude the NRC or is blantly ignored. Nrc members are political appointees. The NRC had their plan set way before DMI groups even had recommendations. The whole DMI agenda thing put on by dnr was nothing more than a staged show to present the appearance of they cared about the sportsmans voice. Special interest is controlling the wildlife in this state through the nrc.
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Too add onto the groups proposal to implement point restrictions on the single tag was to create a better buck age structure across the U.P. One year old buck harvest is 30-50% of the buck harvest every year in the U.P.. we have what we have today largely because of that. Its even more eye opening when we are having those harvest numbers following the severe winters, greatly adding the additional stress onto every other age class of bucks.
I have bow hunted southern schoolcraft since 94. The herd has collapsed there in the last 10 years. I have not seen an 8 pt. In 5 years. We need educated decision with this problem.
Love the show And all the commentary. Love the upper peninsula. I've deer hunted up there since 1981 and I now own property in central Dickinson County!
Again, thank you for the fine programming but for an older guy I'm sure I'm not the only one. We are very confused. We used to Google 906 outdoors on TH-cam cuz we don't get it down here on these stations in Southwest Michigan and then it was discovering and now the podcast is discovering Michigan, some of the videos appear to say discovering, but the one I remember is 906 outdoors is because of the area code, so could you clear up the confusion? Are there two different programs or three different programs or just what I think you might be losing market share by confusing us old people! God bless and thanks for reading all of this! Anyone that gets to live up there is truly blessed!
Hi! Thanks for asking. It is confusing. The TV program “Discovering” is owned by WLUCTV6 here in the U.P. I am the newest contract producer of the show but since they technically own the name I created the TH-cam channel “Discover the UP” so I can share the show online. I started the podcast to coincide with the show so I can share the full interviews, because I feel so much good information is missed or not said because I only have 18 minutes of showtime.
Brian of 906 Outdoors was the prior producer of the “Discovering” program from 2012-2022 and he began uploading the show to his TH-cam channel back when he started and so the names became intertwined. I worked with Brian for 3 years until he passed the “Discovering” program on to me.
In 2020 Brian started taking his “Discovering” reruns and syndicated the “906 Outdoors” show in other tv markets. Which I plan to do at some point as well to further confuse everyone! ;)
Thank you for the reply. It makes more sense now. I know I tried googling discover discovering discovering Michigan's up and I came up with a bunch of different results that didn't always lead to your show on internet searches! But it looks like your local PBS channel calls it discovering, so it's most important for your local people up there! If it were me being a marketing guy and working on keywords for the company I work for I would title any program associated with it 906 outdoors because it is so specific that anyone could find it anywhere, but it's probably just my opinion! Anyway, I have a better understanding now. This technology is wonderful cuz you can get what you want anywhere in North America on your phone or your TV!
It's ever changing so an old person like me gets frustrated. I used to get Google podcasts and now they're all on TH-cam so I'm trying to figure out how to download those. Amazon music is messed up. My phone is overloaded and then they got TH-cam videos playing in the background when all I want to do is listen to a podcast. So it's wonderful. But like everything else it has too many options! Anyway, thanks again for the great programming. I myself have my own opinions about the deer hunting in the Upper Peninsula!
I believe that a majority of the Upper Peninsula should just be a one. Buck tag like it used to be when I started hunting up there. No doe permits except a said few in the banana belt, low snowfall zone!
Where I used to hunt Northeast of Ralph Michigan. The hunting was never fantastic but it was pretty good at one time.
I remember going by the Higgins camp off the Tower road and the Ralph road and on their buck pole in the late '80s and early '90s and seeing a bunch of does and thinking we are going to be in trouble And between the antlerless permits and the predators And some bad Winters like the winter of 95 It certainly is. I think that qdm shouldn't even be a topic in the upper peninsula except voluntarily on private ground.
My Camp is in central Dickinson County and the deer er population is pretty good there. And yes, there needs to be way more bear permits. I think a lot of the initiatives that the special group in the Upper Peninsula brought forward where ridiculous and I'm not surprised that most of them got rejected!
Just my opinion. Love this great old state and love the upper peninsula.
Thanks again for all the great programming. I'm going to listen to the podcast!
Doe's on the Buck Pole at the old Detroit Tiger camp!
As a northern Wisconsin deer hunter, I really feel for you in the UP. Such an unbelievably beautiful place full of deep deer hunting traditions that are being ruined by incompetent management. Sure doesn’t seem fair.
I am listening and I respectfully disagree about the antlerless permits.
In the last 10 years our group has hunted in Iron County, four different places Dickinson County. Three different places gogebic County once And how a rifle camp in Alger county. Alger was the worst for not seeing any deer and so was Northern Dickinson County Iron County was not much better. There is not enough deer to worry about the number of does except for the banana belt, low snowfall zone!
I was on the DMI team with Jordan. I have land in Marquette county but spend most of the seasons in Dickinson county. I recommended reducing the quotas to ZERO for DMU 351 & 352, but allow doe with a bow U.P. wide. The bow harvest would have been minimal, like it was prior to the doe with bow ban a decade ago. You will see more wolf sign than deer sign in many of those places
With the sort of decisions the nrc makes on deer, who do you feel the nrc is listening too or is being influenced by?Also did the dmi members ever hear who the top 10 stake holders are when it comes to deer?@@Ufishinfeathiesp
THIS is the group of people that needs to be the NRC... NOT just a few bureaucrats that know nothing about the wildlife, let alone the people that want the correct approach to management being based on facts and science, not feelings and options.
AMEN!!
Trapped on an island again with an apex predator in the 🐺
How did we think this was gonna go for the deer population my beloved Yoopers?
The NRC needs an overhaul!
Well done Jorden
Good ole ballot box biology
You need to ask yourself, Who is paying the people in Lansing under the table to completely ignore the hardworking people in The Upper Peninsula of Michigan???
If you figure that out, and expose
this problem. You might be able to save the deer herd in the U.P..
If it stays on the same track, there won't be any reason to want to go deer hunting in the U.P. ever again.
You may scoff at that statement, but the U.P. is very close to the finish line on that one.
We have tons of wolves in northern Iron county, it has been a great thing. never had a more balanced buck/doe ratio in the last 125 years that my family has lived and hunted in the UP. Also could not agree more with Jordan, get rid of APRs and go back to 1 buck tag only, the resource and sex ratio tanked once more than 1 buck was allowed to be taken.
So sad what has happened to the deer herd in the UP. I used to go up bow hunting with a very good friend of mine and his son around Halloween 22 years ago in Dickinson county. Deer hunting was a blast, we saw deer of both sexes hunting private and commercial forest land. We stopped going up there maybe 8 years ago, only deer I saw was maybe a 4 point I grunted in over 9 days of hunting. The NRC does nothing on science, apr’s don’t work in the UP, don’t need 2 Buck tags statewide, closing the coyote was a mistake, how about increasing the bear harvest like Richard P Smith suggested, since the DNR hands are tied on the evil wolf population. When hunters are not happy with deer herds in their traditional areas they move to other areas or states or quit hunting all together. The trust is gone with the DNR and the NRC.
Been hunting the U.P. since 79. Have land in Southern Marquette County. The deer herd has tanked from what it was and its disappointing to say it lightly.
What is common sense to virtually all sportsman seems to elude the NRC or is blantly ignored. Nrc members are political appointees.
The NRC had their plan set way before DMI groups even had recommendations.
The whole DMI agenda thing put on by dnr was nothing more than a staged show to present the appearance of they cared about the sportsmans voice.
Special interest is controlling the wildlife in this state through the nrc.
Follow the money...... politicians lining their pockets.
Special interest combined with political interest controls the NRC and the deer herd in this state.