Your videos help a lot, I am a beginner coach and your TH-cam Chanel has given me tools to work with, despite the new context we are living, coaches can't stop. 😀🙌
We can use it in singles when the player plays a drop in the NO MANS land(between the center of the court and the service line) from the 3rd line for neutralizing the rally.. so he can get out of the pressure condition...but this shot gives the opponent no time to react as the shuttle approaches the net with no space in between, with spin and near the net thus making the opponent play a loose shot either on the net or in the centre of the court....... LIKE AND COMMENT IF IT WAS RIGHT🙂
It does. But to use it in single you have to be quick in your footwork so you can take the shot early (racket needs to be half the height of the net at least). That is very taxing. Some player put a good pace in his no mans land drop shot (the dead zone) so it's difficult to return as a good net shot (notable example would be Kento Momota). It's also the reason why it's difficult for Momota to play defensive if he's against Ginting because Ginting often goes to the net very early to produce this kind of shot. I think if you compare it to the legends, LCW is famous to take the netshot early like this while Lin Dan prefers to delay the shot, very often take it from below half the net to control pace.
Watch videos on footwork, then make some drills for yourself to apply what you watched. As you are doing the drills if you want to take it next level, record yourself from a good angle so you can analyse your techniques later and use it to refine your movement. This is one of many ways. Then it's all about being consistent.
Forehand cross court jump smash plss!!! Coach really really appreciete every content of your YT plss make a video on that, Because i struggle a lot... Hope you guide us on making it...!! Thank you!!!
Just the video I was waiting for! Would you say that the slice is primarily about the swing path (and minimising wrist movement)? Furthermore, to what degree does the pace of the shot affect the outcome? Your slices in the video are all a similar tempo - would you advise against trying to hit the shot faster (presumably because the results would be more erratic)?
I can answer these questions. To answer your first question yes it is mainly about the swing path. You can modulate the flight and spin on the shuttle by adjusting the angle of the racket head, how much wrist action you use and how much power you use, and the swing path. But to execute the most optimal slice shot the swing path must be high quality (most appropriate for the situation) A modulated high quality swing will be more effective than a modulated low quality swing. Whether you use more or less wrist action in the slice depends on where you want to aim the shuttle as well as how much spin you want to put on it. By using more wrist you can create more spin making it more difficult for the opponent to hit a high quality shot from it and your shots are more likely will be tighter to the net. The downside is that it's trickier to pull it off correctly on a consistent basis. Less wrist is a simpler action so reduced chance of error and you can still get it reasonably tight to the net with spin. Just not as much as if more wrist was used. You would need to consider your skill level, your position, how early you reached the shuttle well as where you want to aim. The further back you are from the net and the later you reach the shuttle, the less successful the slice with increases wrist action becomes since it's just much more difficult to pull off. So minimising wrist movement is not an iron clad rule. But it's certainly good for when you want to maximise the chances of it going over the net. Now onto your question about pace. Pace can have a huge impact on the trajectory of the shot. If you use like 50% - 70%+ of your power in the slice you will end up doing a sort of drive shot instead of a net shot. The drive shots will go towards the back or mid court of the opponent with decent pace. This is a common shot in doubles but it is done in singles as well. If you want to do net shots, do not put too much pace in the shuttle. Here deft touch is prioritises if you use too much pace and try do do a net shot it will be too high of a shot and against a decent opponent they will kill it. However there is nothing wrong with putting a bit more pace on it if you want the shot to land just beyond the service lines. So what I'm saying is yes pace can have a huge effect. It's up to you to decide where you want to put it. Is it a net shot which lands before the service line you want to do? Then deft touch is priority. Want to hit the shot on or just beyond the service line then you will need to inject more pace as well as use the other modulators I mentioned. Want to hit the slice to thier mid court or back court. Then naturally you will be using much more pace and adjusting the other modulators too. (In this case the iron clad rules is not to use much wrist because that would hamper the shot it's a drive shot now and they should have pace. You will get a feel for how much pace to use depending on where you want it to go with practice. You don't want your shots be be erratic you want to make sure they go where you want them to go. Unless if by erratic you mean you want the shuttle to spin more - then practice the shot first with less wrist action to get accustomed with the movement then later on experiment with different swing angles and using more wrist. See how much pace you can add without losing controll etc basically work to see how adjusting the different modulators affects the shot Hope these answers are satisfactory.
@@Elysium346 Many thanks for the excellent and detailed answers! The reason I mentioned swing path (and reduction of the wrist) is that for a long time I had the misconception that slicing required an overt "chopping" action at contact - as a result, unless I timed the shot perfectly, shots often went too high on the net or into the net. I'm fairly comfortable slicing around the net, so it's the harder, faster "drive" slices that I'm referring to, trying to turn a defensive position to a neutral or offensive one - what adjustments to racket angle/swing trajectory/pace/wrist would you suggest if taking it high/mid net/bottom of the net etc.? One other thing I'd like to ask you: would you advocate employing a fast slice on the return of serve? Assuming it's a high quality serve that's dropping fast, would it be a safer bet than trying to hit flat with top spin? Thanks once again for taking the time to write such helpful answers - a great supplement to the video and one that I'm sure others will find very useful!
@@Elysium346 One other thing: if the use of wrist modulates the degree of spin, what is the angle of the racket face modulating? In which circumstances would it be optimal to have the face more open (strings pointing more to the ceiling) or closed (strings pointing more to the net)?
@@TPToE The angle of the racket face modulates the trajectory. The more your strings face towards net the more of a horizontal trajectory the shuttle has when you make contact. (more flat) The more your strings face upwards the more of an arch trajectory the shuttle has on hit. By this logic... for shots which you want to play 'flat' like drives or shots which you want to land on or beyond the service line you would make the strings face the net more. But if you are aiming to get a steep shot, which is tight to the net and drops sharply down then you would want the strings to face upwards more. (This also applies for a high lift to the back of the opponents court) "if the use of wrist modulates the degree of spin, what is the angle of the racket face modulating?" I would also like to add that the wrist can also modulate pace to a degree as well as spin. It is not something I can explain, and i'm not even going to try but it certainly can affect pace. What affects pace of shots is often multi-factorial, same with spin too. :)
@@Elysium346 Thanks again! If taking the shot very low (towards the bottom of the net), would you rule out slicing deep into the opposite court, or is it still feasible to play a reasonably fast slice even from this compromised position? One other thing I'd like to ask you: would you advocate employing a fast slice on the return of serve (if trying to return the shuttle deep and flat in doubles)? Assuming it's a high quality serve that's dropping fast, would it be a safer bet than trying to hit flat with top spin?
Really interesting video thank you ! Just curious though, where is the first man of this channel ? It's been long since we didn't see him, i hope he is alright...
Try to make a video on flick serve in singles without fault and try to make it more detailed I'm unable to produce enough power , height and length And unfortunately I will be called a fault whenever I try that during a match
@@BadmintonFamly can you please give me 🙂i am also a player but i my parents lack in money.i have finicial problems please if you are having more rackets like these please can you send me please only 1
This is also the obvious fallacy of the badminton community continuing to use the feather shuttle. A single broken feather or threads of a feather not straightened can create variable unpredictable drift in mid way through a shot. Time to move to a sturdier alternative global standard for this international sport.
Your videos help a lot, I am a beginner coach and your TH-cam Chanel has given me tools to work with, despite the new context we are living, coaches can't stop. 😀🙌
Sounds amazing, keep going for next level💪🏻
You are making very best videos i really want to know about slice
So thanks a lot
Great to hear😊
Sir, we are four friends from Chandigarh, India and always admired ur teaching.
Slowly and steadily our game is improving lots.
All glories to u.
Sounds really great, keep going guys🤩💯💪🏻
Sir your videos are awesome. Thank you.
Thanks and your welcome😊😎
This is what I call good training.
Thanks Thomas.
Your welcome😉
Oh, sir amazing slice net sort.💯😮👍
Thanks...💪
Your thanks.💯😉
It's my favorite shot, I do it all the time...
YESSSS it is amazing 😉
I go through quite a lot of strings due to my slicing addiction 🤔
Great 👍
We are learning Sir
Please try to video on frout Court interception, details about the timing and the drills to keep the racket up always please😌
Cool!!
this is a great lesson for a beginner
Thanks👌🏻
Very informative video👍thanks👏
Your welcome👌🏻😎🤩
I like this shot.. because of this skill is confuse to our opponent player to play.. and this shot i play at all time
Yes true i also love this shot👌🏻
Very nice shot 😊
Thanks for that 😀
U r a great coach. Please show how to play back hand cross court clear shots in details.
Wonderful . Thanks
Cool stuff thanks alot!
Very nice video
Haha so fast that you haven´t seen the whole video😀
I know how to slice in ping-pong and pickleball, but I have never thought of slicing in badminton. I have to practice it next time I am on the court.
Good luck in your training 🙏🏻
Nice,,my best course
WoW👍👍👍 subscriber from India
Thanks badminton family
Your welcome 👏
Thank you so much Sir this shot is so useful in game tq
Is it reccomendable to do the reverse of this if u r late to reach the shuttle
We can use it in singles when the player plays a drop in the NO MANS land(between the center of the court and the service line) from the 3rd line for neutralizing the rally.. so he can get out of the pressure condition...but this shot gives the opponent no time to react as the shuttle approaches the net with no space in between, with spin and near the net thus making the opponent play a loose shot either on the net or in the centre of the court.......
LIKE AND COMMENT IF IT WAS RIGHT🙂
It does. But to use it in single you have to be quick in your footwork so you can take the shot early (racket needs to be half the height of the net at least). That is very taxing. Some player put a good pace in his no mans land drop shot (the dead zone) so it's difficult to return as a good net shot (notable example would be Kento Momota).
It's also the reason why it's difficult for Momota to play defensive if he's against Ginting because Ginting often goes to the net very early to produce this kind of shot.
I think if you compare it to the legends, LCW is famous to take the netshot early like this while Lin Dan prefers to delay the shot, very often take it from below half the net to control pace.
Thank you!
First view and comnt I like your videos😘
SO fast 😊
Big love from india
Love from Denmark😍
Thanks Sir and I am from INDIA
Your welcome from Denmark 🇩🇰
Hi how would I improve my footwork, I feel like it’s really restricting my performance
Watch videos on footwork, then make some drills for yourself to apply what you watched.
As you are doing the drills if you want to take it next level, record yourself from a good angle so you can analyse your techniques later and use it to refine your movement.
This is one of many ways.
Then it's all about being consistent.
Yes
Forehand cross court jump smash plss!!! Coach really really appreciete every content of your YT plss make a video on that, Because i struggle a lot... Hope you guide us on making it...!! Thank you!!!
Your welcome😎
I have lost all touch around the net 😱😭. I don't know what is going on. The shuttle just doesn't come off my strings properly anymore.
What racquet do you use?
He uses Astrox 100zz/zx
@@all4abhi Yes it is ZX
Sir most of my shorts are hitting on rim unfortunately how can reduce it. .
日本人でこのチャンネルめっちゃ好きなの俺だけかもだけどだいすき
ILoveYou
Hi coach, may I know how many tension did you put on yr racquet?
I put around 32lbs
Badminton Famly Lol,such a high tension
Which racket is best for single to smash and control
Google this and read some reviews.
I am from Bangladesh
Just the video I was waiting for! Would you say that the slice is primarily about the swing path (and minimising wrist movement)? Furthermore, to what degree does the pace of the shot affect the outcome? Your slices in the video are all a similar tempo - would you advise against trying to hit the shot faster (presumably because the results would be more erratic)?
I can answer these questions.
To answer your first question yes it is mainly about the swing path. You can modulate the flight and spin on the shuttle by adjusting the angle of the racket head, how much wrist action you use and how much power you use, and the swing path. But to execute the most optimal slice shot the swing path must be high quality (most appropriate for the situation)
A modulated high quality swing will be more effective than a modulated low quality swing.
Whether you use more or less wrist action in the slice depends on where you want to aim the shuttle as well as how much spin you want to put on it.
By using more wrist you can create more spin making it more difficult for the opponent to hit a high quality shot from it and your shots are more likely will be tighter to the net. The downside is that it's trickier to pull it off correctly on a consistent basis.
Less wrist is a simpler action so reduced chance of error and you can still get it reasonably tight to the net with spin. Just not as much as if more wrist was used.
You would need to consider your skill level, your position, how early you reached the shuttle well as where you want to aim.
The further back you are from the net and the later you reach the shuttle, the less successful the slice with increases wrist action becomes since it's just much more difficult to pull off.
So minimising wrist movement is not an iron clad rule. But it's certainly good for when you want to maximise the chances of it going over the net.
Now onto your question about pace.
Pace can have a huge impact on the trajectory of the shot. If you use like 50% - 70%+ of your power in the slice you will end up doing a sort of drive shot instead of a net shot. The drive shots will go towards the back or mid court of the opponent with decent pace. This is a common shot in doubles but it is done in singles as well.
If you want to do net shots, do not put too much pace in the shuttle. Here deft touch is prioritises if you use too much pace and try do do a net shot it will be too high of a shot and against a decent opponent they will kill it.
However there is nothing wrong with putting a bit more pace on it if you want the shot to land just beyond the service lines.
So what I'm saying is yes pace can have a huge effect. It's up to you to decide where you want to put it. Is it a net shot which lands before the service line you want to do? Then deft touch is priority.
Want to hit the shot on or just beyond the service line then you will need to inject more pace as well as use the other modulators I mentioned.
Want to hit the slice to thier mid court or back court. Then naturally you will be using much more pace and adjusting the other modulators too. (In this case the iron clad rules is not to use much wrist because that would hamper the shot it's a drive shot now and they should have pace.
You will get a feel for how much pace to use depending on where you want it to go with practice.
You don't want your shots be be erratic you want to make sure they go where you want them to go. Unless if by erratic you mean you want the shuttle to spin more - then practice the shot first with less wrist action to get accustomed with the movement then later on experiment with different swing angles and using more wrist. See how much pace you can add without losing controll etc basically work to see how adjusting the different modulators affects the shot
Hope these answers are satisfactory.
@@Elysium346 Many thanks for the excellent and detailed answers! The reason I mentioned swing path (and reduction of the wrist) is that for a long time I had the misconception that slicing required an overt "chopping" action at contact - as a result, unless I timed the shot perfectly, shots often went too high on the net or into the net. I'm fairly comfortable slicing around the net, so it's the harder, faster "drive" slices that I'm referring to, trying to turn a defensive position to a neutral or offensive one - what adjustments to racket angle/swing trajectory/pace/wrist would you suggest if taking it high/mid net/bottom of the net etc.?
One other thing I'd like to ask you: would you advocate employing a fast slice on the return of serve? Assuming it's a high quality serve that's dropping fast, would it be a safer bet than trying to hit flat with top spin?
Thanks once again for taking the time to write such helpful answers - a great supplement to the video and one that I'm sure others will find very useful!
@@Elysium346 One other thing: if the use of wrist modulates the degree of spin, what is the angle of the racket face modulating? In which circumstances would it be optimal to have the face more open (strings pointing more to the ceiling) or closed (strings pointing more to the net)?
@@TPToE The angle of the racket face modulates the trajectory.
The more your strings face towards net the more of a horizontal trajectory the shuttle has when you make contact. (more flat)
The more your strings face upwards the more of an arch trajectory the shuttle has on hit.
By this logic...
for shots which you want to play 'flat' like drives or shots which you want to land on or beyond the service line you would make the strings face the net more.
But if you are aiming to get a steep shot, which is tight to the net and drops sharply down then you would want the strings to face upwards more. (This also applies for a high lift to the back of the opponents court)
"if the use of wrist modulates the degree of spin, what is the angle of the racket face modulating?" I would also like to add that the wrist can also modulate pace to a degree as well as spin. It is not something I can explain, and i'm not even going to try but it certainly can affect pace. What affects pace of shots is often multi-factorial, same with spin too.
:)
@@Elysium346 Thanks again! If taking the shot very low (towards the bottom of the net), would you rule out slicing deep into the opposite court, or is it still feasible to play a reasonably fast slice even from this compromised position? One other thing I'd like to ask you: would you advocate employing a fast slice on the return of serve (if trying to return the shuttle deep and flat in doubles)? Assuming it's a high quality serve that's dropping fast, would it be a safer bet than trying to hit flat with top spin?
It's really soo fantastic and out standard ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Can you do the yonex racket review
Will come very soon👌🏻
Which badminton do you have??
Which racket did you use in this video
Yonex Astrox 100ZX👍🏻
@@BadmintonFamly thanks
Can use this net shot slice in doubles Sir?
YES it is so good in doubles at the netplayer or woman in mixed doubles 💪
First view very informative video
Thanks 😉
And is it also possible to play that shot with the nylon shuttle....??
Yes you can but a bit more tricky as that type of shuttle wont spin that much🙃
Nice.
I just want your racket it's awesome i love it❤❤❤❤
Yonex 100zz
Sir please make a video on back court over head drop shot
We have a few on this but it is the cut and the reverse cut 😀
Really interesting video thank you !
Just curious though, where is the first man of this channel ? It's been long since we didn't see him, i hope he is alright...
He is no longer involved in badminton Famly 😊
@@BadmintonFamly oh that's sad, i wish him all the best then ! Thank you for the reply !
I wanna learn this short
Yes by Thomas laybourn
Try to make a video on flick serve in singles without fault and try to make it more detailed
I'm unable to produce enough power , height and length
And unfortunately I will be called a fault whenever I try that during a match
Will think about that👌🏻
like your smile sir
Thanks🤩
0:23 Top 10 best cliffhanger
Ha ha yes🤪💯
Please try to make footwork video
Did anyone talk about his accent??
Petition to let him say: Get to the chopper now!!
🤣🤣🤣
Thankyou so much bro😊😊😊👐👐👐
Your welcome bro😎
It is just like spin in table tennis
Haha yes😄
Super
What racket is that? 100 zx or zz
ZX😉
Nice
Thanks
music is epic lol
Yep very cool...
You are using astrox 100 zz 🧐🧐
No it is the ZX version💪🏻
@@BadmintonFamly can you please give me 🙂i am also a player but i my parents lack in money.i have finicial problems please if you are having more rackets like these please can you send me please only 1
love🇧🇩
I want to be a best badminton player in world
Thomas laybourn is only the player in the world all the rest are just child of him
Haha thanks for that, glad to hear you like it 😜
Wow
7:05
👍
mostly air is going opposite 2 ur court so shuttle fell in ur court.
This is also the obvious fallacy of the badminton community continuing to use the feather shuttle. A single broken feather or threads of a feather not straightened can create variable unpredictable drift in mid way through a shot.
Time to move to a sturdier alternative global standard for this international sport.
Iam sorry but there you go 7:28
Waooo🏸🏸🏸🏸🏸🤩🤩🤩🤩
1st yeayyy
Sir I want to see your son